arma3_model

[stuck oyster]

try without the BBoxes maybe

[alpine matrix]

gonna make sure the orientation is good then ill try without

[stuck oyster]

            class Mirror_L
            {
                renderTarget="rendertarget1";
                class Camera
                {
                    pointPosition="PIP0_pos";
                    pointDirection="PIP0_dir";
                    renderVisionMode=4;
                    renderQuality=2;
                    fov=0.69999999;
                };
            };
            class Mirror_R
            {
                renderTarget="rendertarget2";
                class Camera
                {
                    pointPosition="PIP1_pos";
                    pointDirection="PIP1_dir";
                    renderVisionMode=4;
                    renderQuality=2;
                    fov=0.69999999;
                };
            };```

just to simplify to "vanilla equivalent" first

[subtle bison]

dont think they need to be unique, but worth a try

they arent unique on the rf pickup at least

{ 
   renderTarget = "rendertarget0"; 
   class CameraView1 
   {
      pointPosition = "PIP0_pos"; 
      pointDirection = "PIP0_dir"; 
      renderQuality = 2; 
      renderVisionMode = 0; 
      fov = 0.7; 
   }; 
   BBoxes[] = {"PIP_0_TL","PIP_0_TR","PIP_0_BL","PIP_0_BR"}; 
}; 
class RightMirror 
{ 
   renderTarget = "rendertarget2"; 
   class CameraView1 
   { 
      pointPosition = "PIP2_pos"; 
      pointDirection = "PIP2_dir"; 
      renderQuality = 2; 
      renderVisionMode = 0; 
      fov = 0.7; 
   }; 
   BBoxes[] = {"PIP_2_TL","PIP_2_TR","PIP_2_BL","PIP_2_BR"}; 
}; ```

[charred bolt]

I'd echo what the others have said:

1. double check UV and normal direction
2. double check PiP mesh is in front of other mesh and doesn't have a selection name such as "camo"
3. comment out bboxes from code
4. use lower case throughout (can matter if you have both UPPER and upper selection names)
5. temporarily remove the window glass mesh from the vehicle door in Pilot/Cargo LOD

[alpine matrix]

Thanks much and to @stuck oyster @subtle bison

i flipped the BBox and it looks fine now

[charred bolt]

Yes, that's what the bboxes are for - they remove the PiP if not viewed from the correct direction, so copying/pasting from one side to the other does require realignment to get it right.

[analog garden]

BBox’s are annoying asf to work with lmao

I didn’t bother making them instead I just got a scripted turn off pip button

[alpine matrix]

yeah its one of my first time doing mirrors so it was a little weird to do lol

was going fast, then tried cutting corners

[rapid tree]

Glad you got it fixed

[bleak heart]

Structure > Find Components

[charred bolt]

Fire Geometry needs to be closed, convex and each piece named "ComponentXX".
Also assign penetration material(s) (rvmat).

[rich meadow]

Hello all 👋
Any good resources/tutorial to follow to create a new item in Arma 3 ? I am a complete newbie in asset creation.

[charred bolt]

Each piece of geometry needs to be closed and convex. Use the Object Builder menu
Structure > Topology > Find Non-Closed
Structure > Convexity > Find Non-Convexities

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convex_polygon

[rapid ibex]

What to do if a bullet does not pass through the glass?

Find Components did

Mass=0

[charred bolt]

It does not pass through the glass, but you want it to go through?

[rapid ibex]

Yes

[rapid ibex]

I shoot out the car window, but the bullet doesn't go through.

[charred bolt]

Change the window Fire Geometry material to a3\data_f\penetration\glass.rvmat

[rapid ibex]

i try

[rapid ibex]

Could it be because of the animation that they don't die? Or coding problems?

[charred bolt]

"They don't die"? Are you talking about people or glass?

[stuck oyster]

You need a animation for the hitpoint to hide firegeometry component

[rapid ibex]

People

[charred bolt]

I'm not sure that's it HG - if he uses a normal glass rvmat it won't stop bullet penetration and therefore don't need to hide the glass on destruction.

Make sure you put the people proxies in the Fire Geometry.

[rapid ibex]

Can I find it in the sample_f config code?

[rapid ibex]

i check thx

[stuck oyster]

there probably is example

maybe in the car or house

[candid mason]

Is there a way to indicate on a POSXX that the AI should be facing a certain way most of the time, or be standing or crouching?

like a posxx that is aiming down a hallway

[stuck oyster]

no

thats up to mission maker

well ok technically there could maybe be AI actions in there that give such commands to the ai

buut its a bit hacky

and might not even work

[rapid tree]

Should this question not be moved to mission makers ?

[stuck oyster]

if he wants to find a mission based solution sure

[cinder summit]

Hey y'all, anybody know why my uniform model might do this?

As you can see the vest and helmet apply the texture fine, but the uniform is just suffering

[stuck oyster]

Paths dont match what gets packed into PBO

so textures are not found

= black

[cinder summit]

Weird, because I double checked the path in the p3d and the pbo hiddenselections. I will look again, thank you!

[stuck oyster]

do you use P drive?

[cinder summit]

Yeah, I build with pboProject

[stuck oyster]

have you tried unpacking your pbo to see what gets into it?

[cinder summit]

Yes, I double chacked that the paa files properly copied over

[stuck oyster]

is the folder structure same as you use in the p3d/configs?

[cinder summit]

Pentuple checking the P3D now, but it yes to the configs

[stuck oyster]

Id assume somethign works since the vest and headgear has textures

could maybe be broken rvmat too I guess

[cinder summit]

yeah, my p3d is good too

[cinder summit]

Maybe- I haven't checked the rvmat

[stuck oyster]

do the textures work in bulldozer preview

in object builder?

[cinder summit]

I haven't checked in O2

I'll do both

Thank you

[stuck oyster]

thats all i got for now in anycase

[cinder summit]

Alright, thanks!

[stuck oyster]

i'll check back later

[cinder summit]

I can't get the uniform, vest or helmet texture to show up using buldozer

No clue why

[rapid tree]

You really show a Fallout rip in this discord ? Or is the Model Handmade ?

[cinder summit]

Dawg that’s a handmade model

Fallout rip my ass

You think the textures (or the models for that matter) in Fallout: New Vegas look like that?

[cinder summit]

Anyone know what I can do for this?

I’d love to be able to make sure it works in buldozer

[stuck oyster]

do any textures work in buldozer?

or is it just the same ones missing?

[cinder summit]

None of them work in buldozer, no

I set up texture path as P:\

[stuck oyster]

that would indicate the paths dont match the folder structure

as in a path P:\folder\folder2\f3\texture.paa -> folde\folder2\f3\texture.paa

[cinder summit]

When I get back home (on campus and left my laptop behind), I’ll send a screenshot of my file path from P:\ to texture folder on both the P3D and the p drive

Because clearly my eyes are tired and I’m missing some detail

Thank you for the help so far though

[rapid tree]

Hello i got a question regarding Fire Geometry in Wreck p3d

I made a validated fire geo for my wreck model but for some reason the bullets dont impact where they should. The fire geo is convex, closed and has less than 3500 points.

Is this maybe because my wreck turns 180 degree on impact with terrain ?

[stuck oyster]

this could indicate it gets destroyed

[rapid tree]

like the wreck dont working properly ?

[stuck oyster]

perhaps

typical wreck behavior is that it just stays there

does it have valid geometry lod that has mass

[rapid tree]

yes

i noticed the vanilla ghosthawk behaves the same

but if the wreck model dont work properly why does i collide with it

[stuck oyster]

maybe just some part of it dont work right then

compare your wreck to the samples if there is some difference

[rapid tree]

i already did

i used the sample p3d as base

[stuck oyster]

if you just put in a direct copy of sample p3d does that work right?

[rapid tree]

you mean if i put in the sample wreck model proxy ?

[stuck oyster]

Yes

[rapid tree]

i try it

[analog garden]

it’s crazy to accuse something with no basis in fact or evidence of anything

💀

[rapid tree]

looking at the helmet it looks like the enhanced Fallout NV Model from PP

[analog garden]

looks like /= it is

[rapid tree]

but thats basically how the guys in the ip violation channel does it, accuse first ask later

[rapid tree]

tried it fsr it happens with the sample wreck model too

[analog garden]

doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do 💀

[stuck oyster]

no need to drag that on further

[rapid tree]

@stuck oyster voila

[stuck oyster]

works now?

[rapid tree]

yes, the proxy triangle was fsr not in the center, it was a but further down, i guess that caused it to sink in the terrain and catapult in the air

[stuck oyster]

makes sense

[rapid tree]

thanks for pointing in the right direction

[mossy mulch]

can flags go on weapons

[stuck oyster]

no

[mossy mulch]

😦

[formal halo]

Message blocked L

[stuck oyster]

?

[formal halo]

My message got blocked by discord to kjw lol

@mossy mulch

[mossy mulch]

😦

[stuck oyster]

okay?

[honest atlas]

Hola
Alguien podria orientarme del como puedo meter uniformes en arma 3? ya tengo el modelo pero no se de donde sacar el rig del personaje y como se supone que lo programe

[stuck oyster]

the server has a english only policy so we all can understand each other

[rapid tree]

@stuck oyster I have another problem i changed my PhysX Geo and for some reason my helicopter tilts back on placement

[stuck oyster]

probably related to the mass center

in geometry lod

[rapid tree]

But it worked before, do i have to validate the geo lod again ?

[stuck oyster]

physx geometry handles collision

but no mass distribution

[rapid tree]

But i ididnt changed the geometry just the physx

[reef gate]

Are there any limits on wrecks? It would be cool to have heli’s or planes be able to break into different bits like the tail, fuselage, wings etc which aren’t just 1 model

Also if I model a helicopter from scratch could I make it so that the entire back half can fall off it the tail rotor is completely destroyed

Or like the wing of a cargo plane completely falling off

[stuck oyster]

requires scripting

probably makes things a lot more performance heavy

[charred bolt]

Yes, you can, using hide or other animations, such as when glass breaks in windows - wrecks only show when the entire vehicle is destroyed.
But the larger the area you change through a damage driven animation, the more complex it becomes, as you'll also need to change shadows, collision geometry at the same time etc.

[cinder summit]

that would make things very performance heavy

[stuck oyster]

hiding parts is simple though

but if one wants parts falling off

that gets tricky

[cinder summit]

i assume falling off is what they want

i mean

you could import vehicle object pieces and then spawn them as a vehicle crashes

If it's only like, front end and tail, it shouldn't be too bad

and I'm pretty sure there's an event handler for that

anyway, as promised, my file paths in my p: drive, p3d and in my code

and my texture code is in CfgVehicles with the unit / uniform code

[stuck oyster]

if you check the p3d in OB and the paths there what do they say?

the p3d export from blender should cull P:\ from the path

but in case it has not done that

(pboProject should complain about that though)

[cinder summit]

In o2 they're the same but ill show you

[cinder summit]

it could be that...

ill try that after

[reef gate]

I know it’s cod but something like this is what I was thinking

[stuck oyster]

its possible. needs parts as separate objects

then scripting on damage to spawn such

[reef gate]

Like when the wing is hit the wing on the main model is hidden and a new one is spawned

[cinder summit]

so, what you could do is have an eventhandler catch the moment it happens, and spawn the pieces

honestly it's not a bad idea

[reef gate]

Does one such event handler exist?

[cinder summit]

now i kinda wanna script it myself

[stuck oyster]

Id recommend particles

[cinder summit]

yeah should be one

[stuck oyster]

less chance of physX shenannigans

[reef gate]

Collab?

[cinder summit]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers

[cinder summit]

I wish but I'm working on a big project rn

It shouldn't be too difficult to script

[charred bolt]

Does OB show the texture and rvmat's as present in this window or as question marks?
#arma3_model message

[cinder summit]

How do I open that window?

(I'm not super experienced with o2)

found it

[charred bolt]

Window > Resource Library

[cinder summit]

I only have 3 textures

[charred bolt]

check materials as well

[charred bolt]

and may as well check ext dependencies too

[cinder summit]

Lmao

yep!

they're also good

[charred bolt]

so OB is happy with your paths

[cinder summit]

I guess, but buldozer no show texture

even for the stuff that works in A3 already

[charred bolt]

Check this setting in case it's enabled

[cinder summit]

nope :(

suffering

[charred bolt]

Have you tried making them .tga's and changing the OB paths to point at those tga's?

[cinder summit]

No, can I ask why?

[charred bolt]

For one, you'll be able to see the textures directly in the OB viewport

what resolution are your textures?

[cinder summit]

2k

i think

@analog garden

they made em lmao

[stuck oyster]

how do you mount P drive?

[charred bolt]

check if they are exactly 2048x2048

[stuck oyster]

and where you start Object builder from?

[analog garden]

calling me out

they are exactly 2k

[reef gate]

I’ve been modding for a bit and I keep hearing about a p drive - I know it means project drive and that’s about it

What actually is it? It seems very intimidating

[charred bolt]

It's nothing more than a new drive letter on your pc which is mapped to a folder - and in that folder you unpack the arma game files and make your new addons. So it simplifies the pathing for the tools.

[stuck oyster]

it represents the root of the games internal folder structure

so path P:\folder\file.thing becomes parameter = folder\file.thing in config and p3d

[cinder summit]

mikeros

[cinder summit]

a3 tools

It's so annoying

This has never happened any other time I import a uniform

What I'll also note is that the uniform doesn't have a display name

Vest and Helmet are fine but not the uni

ok

i thnk i figured it out

my uvmaps were set wrong for some reason

I'll try this

[stuck oyster]

in case there are multiple uvsets in the lods they may not merge right and instead of 1 uvset you may end up with multiple

[cinder summit]

Yeah, UVSet 0 was empty and there was a UVSet 1 instead

Reshuffled and renamed

Just binarized

Let's see....

It worked!
Awesome!

Thank you guys for the help

Sorry for wasting the time when it was just the UVMap

[stuck oyster]

not waste of time since it often helps to rule out things

[rapid tree]

where do you get the model from ?

[analog garden]

was made for the project

[autumn rose]

Mhm i am more familiar with terrainbuilder but...is it possible to build own bridges for a3 with the possibility for a good ai pathing? Maybe in blender or somehow? Dont like the models i have, they are too short or the basement is too close together.. 😦

I used blender a little in the past...

[stuck oyster]

it is possible sure

[autumn rose]

Mhm but need a lot o time mhmm? Maybe there is another solution, have not really time to learn both actually

[stuck oyster]

well I mean if you dont know how to then yes it will take some time

but if you need some specific kind of bridge then that may be the only option

you can of course use vanilla bridges

[autumn rose]

Mhmm i would try to model it i guess. Have some Bridges in the A3 folder, but they are...or they dont fit that much. Dunno, mhmm found a tutorial to make bridges in blender. Is there a guide for modelmaking in a3 too?

[civic forge]

Hi All, im having issues with my shadow lods for some buildings, in 3rd person there is no sunlight on the player which would be correct when inside the building but in first person there is, any ideas what i am missing?

[delicate gale]

Hi,i get this error and i dont know how to resolve this, i cheked every path and model cfg

[white oak]

If you're using blender this usually mrans bad export
Restart blender and reexport

[delicate gale]

the thing is, i am not using blender

just mlod path change

[charred bolt]

Which modelling software are you using for making your model Crye_JPC_Assaulter_8.p3d?

[delicate gale]

none of them,some onw gave me this version of p3d

the guy teached me about mlods

and model cfg

[charred bolt]

Can you confirm that you have a license to work with this model from the original creator (ie. it's not ripped or stolen)?

[delicate gale]

it was from a random dude that had them on google drive,i did not got into many details

i think its from tfl drive pack

from what i remember and yeah...

[charred bolt]

Understood - the danger for you, is that you might be using stolen IP, and could get into trouble for it.
Personally I wouldn't touch a model without having proof that it was ok to edit it.

[delicate gale]

I understand,thanks for the support!

[formal halo]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[stuck oyster]

TFL content is all ripped and banned

so you can not use that

[cinder summit]

a modeler who made it for us

[stuck oyster]

did you guys already clear the Fallout IP use with Bethesda and BI?

[cinder summit]

We read Bethesda copyright licensing and are abiding by their copyright rules.

[cold wyvern]

does anyone here have experience with making buildings with arma 3? I am curious to as if I could commission someone to make a blender model of a building and interior and just import it into arma or what would need to be done?

[lone robin]

Check #creators_recruiting
Depending the size/complexity of what you’re looking for it won’t be cheap

[glacial compass]

DId anyone had already a situation where a magazine (using proxy) would hide as expected when reloading in the 1.0 Lod and not in the viewpilot? In-game I mean

Thanks in advance

[mossy mulch]

make sure its assigned to correct selection in vp

[glacial compass]

very good point I'll check

Thanks it was that, wrongly assign to another selection

[visual rock]

Hey guys I need some help

I'm trying to open p3d in object builder but it keeps saying an error and that windows is trying to gather the needed information or something

[marsh canyon]

Troubleshooting 101: Do not summarize the error message

[stuck oyster]

you can not open models from the game or mods. You have to make them yourself

[trail junco]

why do these parts of my model appear white when looking at them through something with transparency

[stuck oyster]

their textyre also contains transparency and the engine dont know which one to draw first

[trail junco]

is that the only way it'll do that? The texture doesent even have an alpha channel

[fluid copper]

Is there specific rules surrounding when an object collides with other objects? In my testing it seems smaller objects wont collide with something like the player or a car, but larger objetcs will. Bot have geo lods. Could this possible have to do with the mass of it or is it related to the size?

[stuck oyster]

are you sure

[stuck oyster]

collide in what kind of situation?

things are not typically spawned as simple object

[fluid copper]

Im spawning them, if I spawn it inside the player, or a vehicle it collides if its a larger object

[stuck oyster]

generally anything should collide if thy are spwaned inside each other

if you need to place something inside a physX thing or character it needs to be attached to it

[trail junco]

yes

[stuck oyster]

can you triple check

because last time someone said this to me. there was alpha channel

[trail junco]

the paa file is set to RGB, not RGBA

[fluid copper]

I would have thought the same, but the results are not aligning with that view...

[fluid copper]

is it named _co or _ca though

[stuck oyster]

can you look at it and see if theres transparency

instead of cite me what type it is

[trail junco]

i even tried with no texture applied to it

[steady elk]

Classic

[fluid copper]

Figured it out, a model requires a mass of atleast 10 for some collisions, including the character and vehicles

[steady elk]

broken glass renders well.

[trail junco]

does anyone know how to have a relative path for a texture for a object?

like if my path for a texture in Object Builder is something like Arma3OtherProfiles/name/mission/textures/image.paa
how do I have a relative path like mission/textures/image.paa

because when I try that it just says cannot load texture

[stuck oyster]

mission textures?

thats not really a thing

what exactly are you trying to do?

[trail junco]

if I have a server, how do I have the texture inside a p3d file be client side?

wouldnt the textures path need to be relative so whoever downloads it has it applied?

MissionFileName/images/image.paa

something like that

but if I do that it says cannot load texture because it isnt the full path

[stuck oyster]

You make a mod?

[trail junco]

im not using a mod

[stuck oyster]

Why not

[trail junco]

because I want it to show up to anyone who joins without them having to download a mod

[stuck oyster]

Well I suppose good luck

[trail junco]

😭

[stuck oyster]

People need to download it anyway. It'll just bloat your mission file

Theyll either wait for the mod to download for few minutes or they wait for the mission file to download for few minutes

There is no advantage

[trail junco]

you have to load mods through the launcher to play with that mod, if a player wants to join a server with a mod, they have to load that mod, but if they want to switch to a server that doesent have that mod they need to unload it

what i’m trying to do has been done before i’m just not sure how

[meager bronze]

answering to your equestion the horrible goat havent told in reality what you are supposed to do in that situation, select thease windows in object builder then click faces and move top thats the problem fixer

what happend that bro with mod rank dont know the issue after all thease years 🤡

you can clearly say that only 1 object contain transparency

[meager bronze]

(you might have to repeat it a few times)

[umbral shuttle]

I imagine this is a bit too open ended and also hard to see but I have a tank track and for some reason its ever so slightly hovering (and yes the texture is bad cause aye lmao 30 second temp texture)

any thoughts on what could be wrong? land contact memory points move when checking in bulldozer

Okay disregard, somehow its working now Okay nvm its still floating, still unsure why on flat ground the damper is making the wheels go up

edit3: I found the problem, I didnt have the correct model cfg offet0. I had

offset0 = 0;
offset1 = 0.5;

when I actually need

offset0 = -0.5;
offset1 = 0.5;

[stuck oyster]

I'd rather fix the root cause of it than bandaid it.

[stuck oyster]

Players should have correct mod list loaded anyway when joining a server. If they have mismatching content things break.

[autumn rose]

Is it somehow possible to modulate a bridge with the exact length for the upper road (and the width)? Wanna get it over the lower road. Or at least, how can i find out, which modellength/width i need?

ive started to make a plate in blender yesterday...but...i need a clue for the ingame-length 🤔 or at least some correct messures. I mean, i can use the messure tool from 3den (or the extended addon), but not sure, if the numbers are the same that blender calculate with

[white oak]

Measurements are 1:1

[autumn rose]

Aaah thats nice, thx 🙂

[stuck oyster]

Yeah 1 blender unit is 1 meter in game. Also you can set blender to metric units if you want.

Do remember to model little bit of ramp on both ends of the bridge so it is easier to blend it with the ground

[autumn rose]

You mean something like an runner or offshoot in addition to a slightly thick plate? Mhmm ill try it then, makes sense 🙃

[white oak]

No, what goat means is that you might want to split the bridge to a flat and an angled part to have easjer placement on terrains
See how tanoa bridges are done
Also AI can't do non-straight bridges

[stuck oyster]

I did mean just ramps modeled in if its just a bridge made to fit that particular spot.

If its meant to be reusable and possibly combined then splitup is smart design

[white oak]

Think marmo means those curvy bits you use to go off the highways though

I mightve understood that wrong
I am a dum dum after all

[autumn rose]

Ah Ken was alright. Yeah havnt thought about splitting and Reuseability, but i like that thought, very practicaly. Thx Goat 🙂

[stuck oyster]

Offshoots would need to be separate yeah

It is possible to make even curved ones

[autumn rose]

Mhmm yeah, buts its just for a highwayhroad...dunno, have thought about some easy, but more practical looking

[stuck oyster]

But they need to be split into segments as the road area defining points can only be straight

[autumn rose]

Mhmm thats quite interesting, but yeah, somehow understandable because you use "only" polylines for roads

[white oak]

Would've been great of curved bridges were possible

[stuck oyster]

I'll try to remember to post some pictures about that

[stuck oyster]

I made a 90 degree turn on sogpf bridges

It's split into like 4 parts

Works with AI too

So the dark shaded corner there is split into 4 parts

It is little tight but works

Wider turn would be much easier for AI

(quadbike for some reason has trouble with multi part or long bridges so don't use it for testing AI)

[meager bronze]

It wasnt event the fix

[stuck oyster]

Is there a problem?

[meager bronze]

kinda

you tell poor guy how to fix his issue when you dont know whats the issue

cuz what i have said is proper way

[stuck oyster]

Ok

You are being pretty rude about it though

[meager bronze]

moderator role doesnt make you great modder just a reminder

nah just saying facts

nothing rude has been said so far

[stuck oyster]

Well there is the clown emoji

And personal attack on me

[meager bronze]

personal attack on you?

LMFAO

[stuck oyster]

And pulling in me being a moderator which has nothing to do with modding

[marsh canyon]

Back off both

[meager bronze]

just fact that you didnt know the real issue is hilarious

[marsh canyon]

Do I need to say what I say or have to clear this convo

[meager bronze]

🤷‍♂️

[marsh canyon]

I'm not saying I'm on HG's side. Not on you either

[meager bronze]

not asking to pick a side

but calling what i have said as personal attack just made my day a bit

rent free

[marsh canyon]

Have to agree. But it's offtopic much

[autumn rose]

@stuck oyster How is basicly the workflow in object modelling? Havnt found any guide similar to the terrainmaker pmc guide. Guess, first you create a modell, import it to objectbuilder and write config(s) then? Or did i have to do LoD and such things in blender?

[stuck oyster]

All the lod work can be done in blender

Very little needs to be done in OB if anything.

A bridge would not necessarily need any config even

[autumn rose]

Thats good, i am more interested to create buildings like bridges from time to time...Maybe houses, but thats for later. Mhmm did i need to prepare an another section on p drive, too?

[stuck oyster]

There is no specific guide on bridge making though

It is better to have objects in separate pbo so separate folder for them on P drive

[white oak]

Thought it needed config in NonAIVehicles?

[stuck oyster]

At least off the top of my head can't recall it needing such

But as we have been told, I'm not very good at this stuff.

[white oak]

I mean documentation for NonAI class is just a list of forum posts so

I'll take your word for it

[stuck oyster]

Bridge would have "class road" named property that defines it's basic purpose

[white oak]

I do remember you telling me that you need to have 4 memory points with a specific name to mark the beginning and the end of lanes

[stuck oyster]

Yes

And those are what I referred to earlier when I said curved bridge needs to be cut in segments

As those points can create only straight lanes

[white oak]

Have a look at my objects repo if you'd likesome other samples other than a3 ones for LODs

[white oak]

Yup, would be a nice exercise I'd reckon to see what sort of angles AI can handle

[charred bolt]

Take no notice of one person's opinion when there are thousands more appreciative of your expert knowledge and help.

[stuck oyster]

The ai over steers a bit and different vehicles behave differently too so I don't recommend super tight corners

[white oak]

I'm more thinking long arcs around a hill or over a cove etc

[white oak]

Don't do 8k heightfields

[stuck oyster]

Those should work pretty well

[stuck oyster]

[stuck oyster]

this can be tested with laying down a curve with straight bridge parts too

[white oak]

We were so close to giving up on mehland because heightfield kept breaking every other build

[stuck oyster]

Since basically each segment is technically straight anyway

Just visually it will be nicer with bit of curve and correctly angled ends so they match

[white oak]

Hmm 15/30/45 deg parts with snapping
On to definitely will do it sometime list it goes

[stuck oyster]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494247543765729300/774813456531849246/bendyBridge_01.gif?ex=66de54c3&is=66dd0343&hm=1908345107228c93cde509bac85923c297523067374950c387bfebfd1b4b42bf&

This was my early test

[autumn rose]

Mhmm did you actually make your parts in one blender window? like 3-4 separeted objects or all with a separate file?

[stuck oyster]

45 still could work but needs a bit of space so the lane ends can align

[autumn rose]

i mean, shouldnt blender been able to safe objects separatly?

[stuck oyster]

With overlap due to the angle

[stuck oyster]

It can yes

[stuck oyster]

And yes the whole thing was made in 1 project and each object had all their lods in separate collections and each structure were exported individually

[autumn rose]

Mhmm thats very nice :> Then i need basicly copy the original bridgepart and edit it for the entries

[white oak]

Its nice to put an empty down and assign everything as its child is a neat way to work with multiple part things

You can set the empty as the center of object with the batch export
So I can work on a big object by parts ship/bridge/large building and then batch export the parts

[stuck oyster]

I just don't apply transformations on export. So each thing exports by its own origin

[stuck oyster]

I took a peek at the wiki about it and yes you can have a class for bridges for defining stuff like destruction effects, especially if you want a fancy RTM animation driven destruction

But basic non destructible bridge does not need any config I believe

Bridge destruction is a bit iffy anyway since ai pathing don't seem to know the difference

[cunning temple]

What's the correct way to do the _ads texture for a building in blender? Mine's turning out way too dark

[storm wave]

@cunning templeman i can pay you if you will help me get an obeject into arma 3

just a few minuts

[cunning temple]

I'm having trouble myself, don't ask me for help with it 😄

[storm wave]

man

lol

any one who can

[lone robin]

What kind of object are you trying to get into game ?

[storm wave]

room

and other thing

like thet

just anything know how to get the object into arma 3

[cunning temple]

use the plugin for blender. Look at the sample models to see how they do it

[storm wave]

i looked at test house

didnt teach me any thing new

olso when you view the LOD resolotion it delets it sattings

[storm wave]

the all problem is thet you need to use object builder

[cunning temple]

?

[lone robin]

You’d have to use object builder for any model you intend on getting in game

[storm wave]

yeah i know

i just can make it all work the same time

[lone robin]

You can’t get object builder to work ?

[storm wave]

i cant get an object into arma 3 with all LOD's working

[cunning temple]

did you enable them in the blender plugin?

[lone robin]

Give me a bit and I’ll film a short vid going over everything in terms of blender flow

[storm wave]

i dont need blander thing

i need the object builder thing

if you would wanna help me i would maybe pay you

[lone robin]

It seems you’re not properly exporting from blender and that could be the cause for your issues.

[storm wave]

why

its the LOD's thet dosent work

[cunning temple]

You can do it all in blender, why you trying to use object builder to setup lods?

[lone robin]

If you want you can send me your .blend file and I’ll see what the deal is

[storm wave]

Really?

No need to touch object builder?

[storm wave]

Can you send me the blander video

[stuck oyster]

Can't pay for that since the tools are non commercial.

[storm wave]

Ok

[storm wave]

Is it possibale?

[cunning temple]

You really need to start being clearer with what you done. Did you check link I sent other day? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD
Did you make your lods like in picture I posted above?

[storm wave]

I dont know how you make multipale

And so i dont need to touch object builder?

[cunning temple]

multiple what? 😕

[storm wave]

lods

i can only choose one

[cunning temple]

I've got no idea what you are doing lol
This is like your sat map all over again

[storm wave]

i can only choose one LOD

or i dont know how to

and im asking man can it all be done in blander with out using object builder at all?

thanks ahead

[cunning temple]

You have to make multiple objects and mark each one as it's lod type

[storm wave]

what

like if its a ball i sould copy the ball 3 times exetly on itself to make tree lods?

[cunning temple]

they have to be convex etc, you can't just copy your main object

import the test house into blender and you will see what you have to do

[storm wave]

ok

[storm wave]

.

thets?

how do i make it good any guid?

[lone robin]

Give me about 20 minutes and I’ll have the video sent.

[storm wave]

thanks so much man

🙂

[storm wave]

@lone robin

[cunning temple]

I made a wall, I can bump into it, shoot it etc. But it doesn't fall over in classic arma style and just disappears when blown up... what's most likely reason for that?

[stuck oyster]

did you add a dammage named property to it?

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Named_Properties#damage/dammage

or do you test editor placed?

if editor placed then it does not inherit right type of destructType parameter

so it will need that defined

[cunning temple]

putting land_ in front of it seems to have fixed it. I'll test it on a map tomorrow and make sure it working proper

[stuck oyster]

land_ classname connects the p3d with the config yea

terrain only knows the p3d name for it

[storm wave]

whats wrong here

i can still move trow the object

[sour bough]

Is it convex and componented

[charred bolt]

Requirements here, under GEOMETRY https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD

[storm wave]

what does it mean

[storm wave]

it dosent tell me any thing

[stuck oyster]

thats all I got about it

[south badge]

What are thoooose?

[storm wave]

when i do it to a cube it all goes well when i do it to a room it doesnt

i can then go trow the well

the granade bounces off the wall but dosent go in

[cunning temple]

You tried packing with pboproject and see what errors it gives in binlog? That helped me with a couple of issues yesterday

[storm wave]

pbo project just doesent help

but it worked fine with a simpale cube

[storm wave]

lods and an object

[stuck oyster]

probably just means your geometry is not made right

[storm wave]

did it the same

man

[cunning temple]

It's hard to see anything from your image, as you have all the layers enabled

[storm wave]

can someone join me on a call to help me

[charred bolt]

Doesn't appear to be using a p: drive

[umbral shuttle]

Hi hello I have another theoretical section count question.

lets say I have a gun and a suppressor attachment and a scope attachment all which can be taken off normally right. Is it better to have all on 1 UV so that if u did put that suppressor and scope on that weapon technically thers only 1 texture call needed since they would all refer to the same texture and rvmats, or would it just be better to have the suppressor and scope on their own uvs

[charred bolt]

It's received wisdom to always lower section count where you can.
However, I'd take a guess and say that the difference in performance between 1 and 3 sections on your weapon would not be measurable in game on today's PC's, regardless of how many are equipped or in scene, so don't worry about it too much.

[umbral shuttle]

yeah fair enough, was curious since the game doesnt allow attachments to have hiddenselections.
still better to have on diff UVs so I can have attachments be 1k and the gun it self 2k

[obtuse rain]

When arranging HP spheres in fire geometry, should the spheres only be encasing the surface of the FG like a shell, or placed internally to fill the inside as well? The pictures on the wiki article for hitpoint creation are 2D and don't provide an example for a larger volume.

[charred bolt]

Fill the inside as well.
But I'd recommend you take a look at changing to the new FG damage model introduced with Tanks DLC, using armorComponent in the Hitpoints classes, as this allows you to reduce the hitpoints to typically a single point per class (used for indirect explosive type damage) and employ well defined FG mesh for the ballistic penetration.

[mossy mulch]

iirc that boils down to just dedmen cant be botherd

[umbral shuttle]

ahahaha

[storm wave]

i can only shot the letters

and i can walk into the model all of it still

[formal halo]

is it triangulated,
does it have mass,
is it convex,
does it have multiple uv sets

[storm wave]

Convex and uv sets

I dony undestend

Could you tell me

[cunning temple]

did you make sure all parts for the geometry are convex?

[lone robin]

I literally sent a video showing where/how to check for non closed and non convex lol

[cunning temple]

He tends to rush in then messes it up

[storm wave]

I did it

Convex you me treyengulate

[storm wave]

if it finds non convex what do i do

[cunning temple]

make it convex...

[white oak]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

You know it'd kinda be a nice modelling exercise
Make a building entirely out of non-convex shapes and have it properly collisioned

[stuck oyster]

🤔 hows that different from normal building making?

[white oak]

Not by much
Reckon it'd be a nice practice on dividing non-convex objects to convex parts

[stuck oyster]

sure yeah

that is pretty much a normal building making formula 😅

although, I have kind pivoted myself towards making the geometries first for many things for arma

then making the visual mesh to fit within those

[white oak]

Sometimes I'm lazy
If I'm making something that won't be interacted with, ie statue I might throw the model at a convex decomposer and clean it up a bit

That 1000$ matlab subscriptions coming in handy

[pallid island]

Inb4 bounding box for collision shape

[stuck oyster]

[storm wave]

how

why you buling me

lol

[stuck oyster]

if you dont know what convex means you got to look it up on google

[storm wave]

come on man why you doing like thet

im here for the arma 3 part

[white oak]

Most people here do this as a hobby, you can't expect them to hold your hand on every single bump you encounter

[marsh canyon]

Convex is a common term that is listed in your dictionary

[storm wave]

bruhhh

why does it need to be convexed

[marsh canyon]

Because it does need to be

[white oak]

God (RV3 engine) deemed it so

[storm wave]

so i press

it will destroy my model

[lone robin]

Are you selecting “Component Convex Hull” ?

[storm wave]

didnt do it

[lone robin]

You don’t need the letters in your geometry lods. Having letters as mesh for a simple sign is a waste of space, that can all be don’t through texturing.

[storm wave]

how

and whats the alternetive

and other then the letters the edges are non convex

[lone robin]

Did you send me your complete model ?

[storm wave]

the sended you a model i want to have in arma 3

thet is not modifeid for arma 3

[lone robin]

Send me the model you are currently having issues with

[woeful viper]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-the-house-hes-cheating-cheater-gif-8225031

could also just cheat with one of probably 20+ free python libraries, of course...

but yeah, i do/did geo first for most building stuff, like HG

[white oak]

Funny thing is the toolbox is a fork of the open source libraries

[woeful viper]

yeah they do a lot of copy cat-ing

[woeful viper]

their "latest inovation" Simscape tool is also just a reskinned and proprietary-ized Modelica / OpenModelica

[white oak]

Yup, I get that matlab was great back then but atm it mostly just enjoys its monopoly over universities

I'm still riding my uni license hence why I have all the toolboxes without paying

[lone robin]

Send me the blend file not the P3d

[storm wave]

why blander

[woeful viper]

i would like to think universities could easily change. But Companies are the ones that are locked in, because of thousands of lines of self written matlab code and simulink models.

[white oak]

Bit of both

Unis are in the same problem that they have plenty of technical debt to matlab

[lone robin]

I can work with that not the p3d

[white oak]

Network class I took was running around a matlab script whose original author passed away years ago

[white oak]

If there ever was a sketchy file name

[woeful viper]

Time to work on a proprietary matlab-code-to-opensource transpiler ... 😈

[lone robin]

I’d love to see his P drive and all the unnamed files lol

[woeful viper]

"i can free you... but only for a small nominal fee of... 1 million"

[white oak]

Matlab to python and matlab to octave exists
Afaik theres a community addon in matlabs repo that does it

They fall face flat when theres a toolbox involved though

[woeful viper]

thats what i meant...

[white oak]

All boils back down to our lord and saviour
C

[cunning temple]

Is he back to using object builder again?!

[white oak]

who msb?

[cunning temple]

yea

[stuck oyster]

Im hoping Dr seuss wont get roped in doing his work for him now

😑

[cunning temple]

Save us the hassle lol

[white oak]

Maybe we should start telling them opposite of whats supposed to be done
Better chance that they might actually do things correctly then

[charred bolt]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Sometimes it's best to recognise when a person doesn't have what it takes to be successful and let them know, to save pain all round.

[storm wave]

WTF

and you didnt belive me

and it has the lods working

[cunning temple]

Why does it look different to the other one you posted? Did you start something new before fixing the other one lol

[lone robin]

I wouldn’t allow it, it’s more so that I’m just putting off my own work right now lol

[storm wave]

how do i put it

[white oak]

with effort

[lone robin]

Why are your letters inside the box ?

[pallid island]

looks convex

[cunning temple]

lol

That's one way of fixing all your issues

[lone robin]

Also geo LODs were just reused Res LOD

[cosmic tendon]

@charred bolt #arma3_config message
I show you correct thing?

[charred bolt]

In Object Builder add p: to the path so it looks like p:\a3\......

[cosmic tendon]

it was added

[charred bolt]

It's green against the texture name so OB is happy with that.

[bold flare]

Mh I thought it was supposed to work without.
As you should never have absolute paths in OB?

[charred bolt]

In the rename reference window it appears to need it, but in Face Properties it doesn't show that

[bold flare]

Ah. Interesting. 👍

[stuck oyster]

Object builder settings will need the texture path property be set as P:\

so paths without P:\ are read correctly

[storm wave]

How to i put a flag on an object

[cunning temple]

It's just a texture...

Which you know how to do, as you posted an object with textures on it

[storm wave]

Yeah but a flag is long and not sqour

[pallid island]

letters aren't square as well, what's the problem with squareness?

[lone robin]

Is the flag going to be hanging on a wall ?

[storm wave]

Like a concret panting

[storm wave]

The texture are power of 2

So its squar

[stuck oyster]

you can use only part of the texture space

this is why you need to go and learn the basics

[storm wave]

Where

[cunning temple]

google blender tutorials

[storm wave]

Not blander

Guys im not talking with you on things not conncted to arma 3

Cus i dont need you for thet

[pallid island]

"how do i match non-square object to square texture" isn't connected to arma 3, really

[stuck oyster]

then this channel is of no use for you I guess

we cant help you further

[cunning temple]

I give up!

[white oak]

Guess you could say that they
Broke the Ice
I'll take my timeout now

[cunning temple]

😂

[lone robin]

Your failure to understand the fact that you NEED to understand the basics of 3D modeling as a whole is exactly why you’re not doing anything right. Arma modeling is 3d modeling with some extra steps. So the fact you’re jumping some extremely important steps is why no one here is willing to give you any specific answers on your plague of issues. I’ve asked my fair share of questions here about basic things but the difference is that I learned the BASICS

[storm wave]

object builder

[pallid island]

yes 🤣

[cunning temple]

ffs 😄

[plucky patrol]

Hi, guys is there a way to hide proxy`s objects in the vechicle when the player plays in 3D view ?

I see that some models that have proxis shown when they uses the turn out action but when they are in, they are not visible when i look in to the model in spectator mode

[sour bough]

Take em out of the res lod's?

[plucky patrol]

It is a solution but they will be visible on turn out action ?

[bright echo]

viewGunnerInExternal in the config sets it

0 hides the proxy when turned in

do note this hides their firegeo too so they cant be injured from direct hits etiher

[sour bough]

Wait

Is there a config that allows you to view the gunner's head when in the scope zoom? I have something where it's a camera turret where the camera can see the gunner

I have been sitting on it because I couldn't figure out how to make the gunner not headless to himself lmao

[bright echo]

in optic mode the gunner shouldnt be visible to themselves

otherwise nah you cant avoid it

[sour bough]

rip

[bright echo]

depending on the interior tho you could do some funky stuff and like, put them inside a box that can see out but not be seen through to hide it

[sour bough]

It was an open top car, so no dice. Best I could do would be maybe bulk up an area to block the turret view

That said, the model is old and shit so it's not worth using if it's a ton of effort lol

[plucky patrol]

Do anyone knows why gunnergetinaction = "GetInLow"; or High it seems that the proxy does nothing on turn out or in , I mean these values are ignored in the config of the turret

the position is always the same

[charred bolt]

gunnerGetInAction is the animation used by the player when entering/exiting the vehicle.
The animations used when turning in/out are gunnerInAction, gunnerAction and for FFV personTurretAction.

[plucky patrol]

yes but the initial position of the proxy

does not change

how can i change that ?

[charred bolt]

Can you explain more what it is that you are seeing, and what it is that you would like to see?

[plucky patrol]

one moment

@charred bolt

Any ideas on how can obtain this position from proxy object ?

[charred bolt]

The animation (pose) that the character takes when inside the vehicle is defined by the rtm file referenced in the turrets gunnerInAction parameter. If you can't find a "vanilla" BI animation that suits the pose you need, you will have to make one.

[plucky patrol]

ahh ok

[charred bolt]

The proxy triangle purely defines the origin point for the rtm animation, and sets what type of proxy it is (pilot, gunner, cargo etc) and it's index

[plucky patrol]

this i know

[real crow]

Hey folks, is there a way to make this kind of static turret to stay above the ground? It looks like im missing something. The whole thing doesn't stay still above the ground, but it will start dropping untill it touches the ground, and this is why my gunners are into the ground in the picture

[stuck oyster]

for starters its not modled on ground level

so it falls down

if you want it to stay high up

you would have to give it geometry to stand on

but that will look funky

[real crow]

Ok, i got it, i did tried that indeed, but it conflicted with the objects around yep. Especially within a dugout or similar

[stuck oyster]

yes cant make it clip into things

if you want it to stay on top of something you basically have to attachTo script it

otherwise its very hit and miss

[real crow]

attachTo wouldn't be very handy

it works ofc, but not in the way i would like to

[stuck oyster]

but it means the turret can only be on such raised platforms

in which case I would make the stand for it into the model

make the sandbag pile part of the turret

that will work

[real crow]

no can't do, those are gm sandbags

[stuck oyster]

Arma is not great with delicate placement things like that

you can use them visually via proxy if you want

but that will make GM requirement

vanilla has some of those too though

options are a bit limited here im afraid

[real crow]

it is a requirement already for my project, but i was trying to basically replicate the same way NF and IFA do with the same Mg turret

[stuck oyster]

does theirs stay up?

[real crow]

indeed

with or without gunner

[stuck oyster]

then there has to be geometry to hold it up

[real crow]

mm, i will try in contacting some of those fellas

thanks HG

[stuck oyster]

👍 good luck

😅 it sounds a bit challenging thing to make

[real crow]

Arma is suffering indeed

too late to back up 😢

[grizzled halo]

a-fucking-men to those 2 statements

[real crow]

turns out it was actually easy: normal ground modeled geo and empty geo physx lod for ideal placement behavior

[stuck oyster]

ah

👍

great

makes sense

[real crow]

indeed, sometimes the solutions are so practical that sounds like they won't work lol

[tribal rain]

so ive got a modelled holster and proxy setup on my vest but the pistol goes invisible when its not equipped this applies to all pistols im missing something just dont know what exactly?

Proxy:
P:\A3\Characters_F\Proxies\pistol_holstered

[stuck oyster]

mayhaps this helps

[tribal rain]

switch from 0 to 1 im guessing?

[stuck oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-office-exactly-bingo-gif-13025505

[cunning temple]

I ain't getting anywhere with this _ads texture. This is how it's looking at moment 😄
Any advice on how to do it correct

[reef gate]

For making buildings how do LOD’s work with interiors

[lone robin]

I’ve typically been doing adshq for my interiors but the same process can be used for an ads
How I do it in blender is I apply neutral gray diffuse shader to the model (hex: 808080) then I’ll bake a diffuse map with indirect lighting and color input utilizing the fast GI approximation settings. For an interior with no windows you can make a plane and apply an emissive shader to it and that will provide some light. It will need some post process editing in PS or gimp to denoise and brighten up a bit.

I then bake an AO in Xnormal with these settings
After editing the diffuse bake it will be put into the blue channel then I overlay that same texture on top of my AO and reduce its opacity to around 35%, merge those then put it into the green channel

[stuck oyster]

same way as with anything

[reef gate]

Do you just decimate (or half the face count) on the entire building every LOD?

[white oak]

You can, but that can lead to UV becoming skewed on the distance lods

You can especially notice this on large fine details
ie writing on a building

[stuck oyster]

no

I would recommend more manual approah at least for second lod

removal of tiny details, camfers etc

for 3rd lod you could remove everything that can not be seen from outside through windows and openings

and last lod should be simple silhouette boxes that have the main model baked on it

hanoi train station middle section lod1 roughly 60k tris
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/105462541215358976/1283806728189902919/image.png

lod2 half of that

3rd lod drops signicantly already

the interior is fully removed and windows are no longer see through

last lod is 300 tris with baked texture

now the polycount is somewhat higher because this is a single use hero asset and it has extensive interior

and due to the windows and being able to see inside in many angles the lodding had to have compromises with the agressive last lods

[white oak]

How well do you reckon removing everything inside and just pasting the see through windows with a texture of interior walls
Maybe not on the second lod but beyond that

[stuck oyster]

that can maybe work too

[woeful viper]

i feel it oddly satisfying to see a "lowest LOD" that looks actually quite good

[stuck oyster]

power of settingup multimaterial equivalent in blender

can also bake it out easily

[reef gate]

How do I define the specific penetration of an object? Like how much it’ll stop bullets

[lone robin]

Materials you assign to the Fire Geometry. All of those can be found in a3\data_f\penetration. If it’s not in the data_f folder it’ll be in data. I’m not at my computer right now.

[reef gate]

Thank you, is there a guide/ specific templates for materials (like metal, wood etc)

And can you change the values to make or match something like ceramic plates or kevelar

[grizzled halo]

yes, its a mixture of the bisurf/material, fire geometry setup/thickness and the hitpoint setup:

See:

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/RVMAT_basics (last section)
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Vehicle_Hitpoint_Creation
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Damage_Description

[reef gate]

Cheers

[lusty ginkgo]

Will arma 3 or a3 dlc (non-cdlc) object model retextures for use in terrains still get you shot around here or is that chill now

[charred bolt]

If it breaks a license or you use IP which you do not have permission for, it will still rightly get you shot.
You'll need to determine if what you want to do is legally allowed, and if it is, no problem.

[bold flare]

Arma 3 retextures were always tolerated. Don't know what you mean.
If you mean ripping stuff in order to do them, well ripping stuff is still illegal so I also don't understand if that's the question

[cunning temple]

I'm guessing he means retexturing official objects. Terrains can't use hidden selection or whatever they are called. You need a p3d model

[last spindle]

i spent way to much time on this.......http://i.imgur.com/UlU1nrI.png ITS A PLUG!

[tired bramble]

ACE3 - Intense Plug Simulator 2016 😄

Looking good, what's it for?

Besides the obvious "plugging". 😄

[last spindle]

well you will be interacting with them alot if you are operating Artillery, taking plugs out, putting fuses in, picking plugs off the floor, putting them into boxes, if you don't want your firebase littered with garbage

something like this -> http://www.thomaswictor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/M107_155mm_round.jpg

[tired bramble]

Ah, I see. Fuze placeholder. 😄

[last spindle]

pretty much,

[grizzled halo]

Fellas, do AI in turrets use an specific config entry to define the axis of the barrel?
I have a vehicle that shoots correctly for players but AI seem to be taking the "center" of the vehicle as aiming point (and as such applying the axis limits for rotation and elevation), guns shoot correctly according to barrel direction but aimpoint fo AI is way low.

[charred bolt]

Does the vehicle weapon have AI modes set-up within it?

[grizzled halo]

its inheriting from vanilla weapons, so I would assume so (ex: cannon_120mm)

[stuck oyster]

Are the turrets center to the vehicle or offset sideways? Where are the gunner proxies located?

[woeful viper]

what target are you shooting at? Do you let it shoot itself? aimpoint (for others to shoot at it) is a memorypoint... if it doesn't exist, it might use 0/0/0

[hidden fern]

I have a question I have been using Blender for some years now and have built many things, but now I want to add buildings to Arma 3 what is the process to doing that. thank you

[white oak]

You're most of the way there then
Have a look at samples to see how LODs/Named Selections/modelcfg interact together
Also grab the blender tools from the pins

[hidden fern]

is there any videos showing a tutorial of this

[white oak]

Not for buildings afaik

[hidden fern]

ok well how do people even know what to do if there isn't any tutorials

[grizzled halo]

They are offset indeed. This is not a conventional vehicle (its basically a mech that behaves like a tank). Do gunner proxies position influence that?

[white oak]

Samples and lots of trial and error
Wiki helps too

[grizzled halo]

Yeah, zamerny mem point rigth? Added it yesterday and AI started shooting at the center of the hull so thats one problem solved,when AI is using them, they still aim from s very low offset

[lusty ginkgo]

that's what I'm asking about

I'm guessing it hasn't changed, then?

[charred bolt]

Was what you want to do breaking a license or illegally taking IP "before"?

[lusty ginkgo]

I don't understand why the specific model makes a difference. Maybe DLC vs non DLC or CDLC

[charred bolt]

Neither Dedmen or I understand what your question is, so can't give you specific advice, other than to say if it was illegal before, and nothing has changed in the license, then it's still likely illegal now.

[bold flare]

It doesn't make a difference.
DLC, non-DLC, CDLC. You don't have a license to use any of the models

[lusty ginkgo]

By use you mean modify, correct?

[bold flare]

Modify or copy yeah

[lone robin]

I’m planning on making a full tutorial for getting a structure from blender to arma. I just need to get a few things in order

[umbral shuttle]

What is required for tank treads to properly look right for when its moving? Based off what I see for the base game tank tread paa I am guessing the texture is for a single tank segment and then its repeated out to make the whole track correct? and then the game animates the track UV moving up and down?

[charred bolt]

Yes, you're more or less correct.
Put the UV texture for the tracks on a vertical strip across at least one whole UV island. You can texture either a segment and repeat map it, or texture the whole track, as long as it's vertical and starts/finishes on a uv island edge.
Name them passoffsetL and passoffsetP in the p3d and put those selection names in the model.cfg sections[].

Use these config parameters:

selectionLeftOffset = "pasoffsetL";
selectionRightOffset = "pasoffsetP";```

[umbral shuttle]

Okay cool, gotta go reuv then cause config wise/p3d wise its all good, just looks funny cause the UV is not that lol. Like on the left track parts of it look like its going sideways

wish there was a track sample that I could just and adjust 😦

[blissful spire]

there anyway to get a barricade to have swap to a destroyed version on taking enough damage? I know you have house ruins and stuff, but it seems like i cant get it to swap models. It does do the smoke and it deletes itself. So it seems like its wanting to swap models

[stuck oyster]

need to make it house type too

[blissful spire]

the ruin model? I have both set to it in the models geo lod

[stuck oyster]

ruin model dont need to be house type.

[blissful spire]

or are you talking about vehicleclass?

[stuck oyster]

but the object you want to turn into a ruin needs to be house simulation type

and you need land_p3dname config class for it to configure the destruction effects

[blissful spire]

    class Ruins_F;
    class House_F: House
    {
        class DestructionEffects;
    };

    class land_TKE_DeployableCover: House_F
    {
        model = "\TKE_Props\land_TKE_DeployableCover.p3d";
        armor = 1000;
        scope = 2;
        scopeArsenal = 2;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        displayName = "[TKE] Deployable Cover";
        hiddenSelections[]={"camo"};
        hiddenSelectionsTextures[]={"\TKE_Props\data\TKE_DeployableCover_co.paa"};
        mapSize = 5.27;
        editorCategory="TKE_SciFi_Props";
        editorSubcategory="TKE_Mil_DefenseObjects";
        icon = "iconObject_4x1";
        vehicleClass = "Structures_Walls";
        animated = 0;
        coefInside = 0.5;
        coefInsideHeur = 0.8;
        cost = 1000;
        class DestructionEffects: DestructionEffects
        {
            class Ruin1
            {
                simulation = "ruin";
                type = "\TKE_Props\land_TKE_DeployableCoverDestoryed.p3d";
                position = "";
                intensity = 1;
                interval = 1;
                lifeTime = 1;
            };
        };
    };
    class land_TKE_DeployableCoverDestoryed: Ruins_F
    {
        model = "\TKE_Props\land_TKE_DeployableCoverDestoryed.p3d";
        scope = 2;
        scopeArsenal = 2;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        displayName = "[TKE] Deployable Cover (Destroyed)";
        editorCategory="TKE_SciFi_Props";
        editorSubcategory="TKE_Mil_DefenseObjects";
        icon = "iconObject_1x1";        
    };
```I mean thats the config for it

[stuck oyster]

the sample house had example of that I think

your p3d name is land_TKE_DeployableCover

so the classname needs to be land_land_TKE_DeployableCover

[blissful spire]

oh

pffs

what kinda shenanigans is that lmao

hang on

[stuck oyster]

land_ is classname prefix

that tells the engine to connect that class to a p3d template on a terrain/wrp

[blissful spire]

so if the p3d was swapped to TKE_DeployableCover the classname would be fine as is?

[stuck oyster]

yes

[blissful spire]

lemme give that a check

[stuck oyster]

if you got them on a terrain

youll need to alter the template name and p3d path

as well as export new wrp and build the map

so the changes apply

[blissful spire]

no terrain, just for placable props

[stuck oyster]

then the land connection is irrelevant

and it should pull simulation type from the config instead of the p3d

[blissful spire]

It was relevant actually. It swapped models finally

so the config/p3d classname issue was the problem. Thank you

[stuck oyster]

🤔

👍

perhaps it broke with the land_ prefixing then

[blissful spire]

Thats my theory. Just need to sort out the particle effects since its inheriting from house_f lol

Ty goat

[stuck oyster]

you can also not inherit the desturction effects

youll just have to pull the ones that hide the original model from the base house class

[blissful spire]

good point

[stuck oyster]

I found that easier when doing some more mild effects on walls that turn into ruins for sogpf

[obtuse rain]

Are there any good presets for doing welds like that in ZBrush?

[hexed kestrel]

if I were to make a tea cup that would be held as a weapon, how would I go about it in terms of configs? I already made the tea cup and have the .rtm file with the hand anim of the dude holding the cup

[alpine matrix]

honestly id make it a rifle, make it have no mag/ammunition

depending on what you wanna use it for

[blissful spire]

might be able to get away with it being a handgun, since its small lol

[stuck oyster]

are all your turrets modeled to point straight forward by default btw?

can you perhaps get some pictures of how they fire VS how you would expect them to fire? if not here then you can DM me

[grizzled halo]

indeed, I can tomorrow if that alright

but they are modelled facing forward yes

[quick terrace]

@last spindle : http://politicalsculptor.com/images/uploads/estore/29/01.jpg

[rich meadow]

Hello all 👋 I just created my first ever mod in arma 3 and I had to learn Blender, how to add custom texturea and also how to export it as a mod.

Now I have a final question ❓

• Is it possible/doable to add a custom action on an arma object dropped on the ground ? In my case, the new object is a seismic sensor and I would like that the player has access to an action (through scrollwheel action) when they look at the object when dropped on the ground.

Thx in advance ! 🪖
(also, I am trying to write a small guide here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Es7EF1G6GCeFO6nxI3gMZQnoEQt-59IDduSJwMoL38k/edit in order to share the knowldege with noobs like me that are just starting)

[stuck oyster]

I dont think you can add such feature on a item

because when and item/weapon/gear is dropped they are placed inside a ground holder object

they dont exist independently

[white oak]

Maybe with eventhandlers?

[rich meadow]

yeah that is what I have in mind, but i thought maybe there is a cleaner way to do it using the object

[stuck oyster]

and cfgWeapons type things dont have userAction class in them

[rich meadow]

(also because some choppers from some mods have such action when inside of them)

[stuck oyster]

so it would need to be a cfgVehicles type thing

a helicopter is a cfgVehicles kind of a object

and can have user action in it

[rich meadow]

I will check if there is an eventHandler like "dropped" or something and once I detect that specific object i will run a custom script on it to initialize it

[stuck oyster]

on mission level you can add a evenhandler to a player that could perhaps interact with a ground holder object that has your item in it

[stuck oyster]

if you make the sensor as a mine

you could likely tie stuff to it through its placement event

[rich meadow]

currently it is a magazine :/ Will take a look to change it to a mine if doing it using eventHandlers is not feasable 🙂

Thx for the precious inputs ! I shall be back 🥲

[stuck oyster]

as a magazine you could maybe do a mission added inventory eventhandler that allows you to activate it from inventory

or have a user action on player to activate it

so if you drop the magazine its just a inactive sensor you drop

[rich meadow]

good idea ! I alrady do thgat for some of my other scripts 👍

[stuck oyster]

but if you use the action its removed and a new active sensor object is placed down

[alpine matrix]

Or this yeah, I just start with a rifle as an example lol

[thin swan]

-For anyone who wants the arma 3 rig setup in marvelous designer

[rapid ibex]

How do I dim the length of a light?

I shortened it with Memory and it didn't work

[analog garden]

that’s really useful, you should put that onto a GitHub or something similar

easier than digging through files there

[honest terrace]

Gday all, is there a way that a specific LOD can be set as a proxy for a vehicle? Making a few armored vehicles and i wanted to use some interiors for them, mainly the Slammers passenger compartment

[bright echo]

the lod used is based on where the proxy is placed

so if you have a proxy in view cargo lod of your model it will use the view cargo lod of the proxy (if it exists, probably defaulting to other reslods if it doesn't)

at least I think this is the case, proxies can be a bit weird

[fading harness]

Guys I'm trying to add "guerrilla garment" to my config but it's kinds uses 2 models what's the model name exactly?
Or I must add 2 model's names in "model" line?

[glad niche]

hello

"you cannot use no prefix AND a rename"

what the problem?

[magic oxide]

i build a target mod and inherited from House_F, do i need to have a model cfg next to model file? because i used hiddenselection thing but it didnt work

[stuck oyster]

Can't do 2 models

Please explain in more detail what you try to do

Because it does not quite make sense

[white oak]

Modelcfg needs to be in the same folder as p3d
But hiddenselection is not related to modelcfg

[stuck oyster]

Hiddenselections sections are defined in model.cfg

[white oak]

mb remembered it being in config

[stuck oyster]

From there config can access them

So it's both

[white oak]

but you can have hiddenselection in models that dont have a modelcfg for textures can you not?

[stuck oyster]

No

[magic oxide]

where can i find a example model.cfg for that target model

[grizzled halo]

sent you a DM now. Thanks!

[fading harness]

Retexture the "guerrilla garment"

Don't know the model name

[stuck oyster]

is that a uniform from arma3?

[fading harness]

FIA rifleman

[stuck oyster]

then it does not use 2 models.

just 1

(nothing ever uses 2 models)

[fading harness]

Model name and directory?

[stuck oyster]

idk

you can look it up in the config viewer

or you dont even need it

[fading harness]

Oh no config viewer

[stuck oyster]

if you inherit from that classname it will get you the model path from the source

since retexturing you dont need to touch the model path

[fading harness]

I need to know for my uni

[stuck oyster]

eh?

[fading harness]

Uniform

[marsh canyon]

Which doesn't make sense. What exactly you're trying

[fading harness]

I said it's retexture

But idk the model name

[marsh canyon]

Which means no model is required

[fading harness]

Or where it is

[fading harness]

But it needs to type the model directory at "model" in config

[stuck oyster]

no you dont

when you use class inheritance

you inherit all the properties you dont need to change from the original class

[fading harness]

U mean "i_g_soldier F"?

[stuck oyster]

yes

[marsh canyon]

You really need to learn how a config or even Mod works

[fading harness]

It gives the default stats or I must give it stats

Like how many items can carry

[stuck oyster]

you can add all your changes into your new class

they will then overwrite the iherited original values

you really need to read the class inheritance wiki page

[fading harness]

But I need to give my texture

[stuck oyster]

yes your new class will have hiddenselections[] = "yournewtexturepath and stuff"

that will overwrite the original

[fading harness]

So what about arsenal?

I mean the config that shows it in arsenal

[grizzled halo]

anything, you can change every single thing in the config once you inherit it and leave it as is for what you dont require to modify, IE:

myMagicalClassname : i_g_soldier F
{
author = "me_Who_Else_Would_It_Be";
OtherConfig = "newValue";
hiddenselections[] = "relativePath";
};

All the other stuff you dont change stay the same

[fading harness]

@grizzled halo

[grizzled halo]

just change what you need to change and leave what you dont

scope, displayname, etc

[rich meadow]

ℹ️ Not sure if the best place to put this but I wrote a procedure (that I will try to keep up to date) to** create Arma 3 inventory intem from scratch** : https://github.com/gerard-sog/arma3-macvsog-columbia-items

Feedbacks on it are welcome!

(if not the appropriate place feel free to redirect me and delete this msg 🙂 )

[restive pond]

What would be the best way to check fire geometry/hitpoint correctness?

[bright echo]

shooting it is probably the easiest way, otherwise

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/diag_toggle
HitPoints
and
Shots
are two that should be helpful

hitpoints visually shows you the hitpoint radius'
shots will show if bullets are hitting/penetrating etc

[restive pond]

Can you make hitpoint radius visible in OB somehow?

[charred bolt]

Yes, switch to dev branch and run the diagnostic .exe
diag_toggle "HitPoints";

[last spindle]

i use this http://polycount.com/discussion/118857/free-welding-bead-brush

i dont use zbrush though, just take the alpha mess about with its shape in photoshop and then use NDO

[toxic cobalt]

Does anyone know the config for the object builder in amra3?

(oxygen 2)

[stuck oyster]

What config you mean?

[stuck oyster]

Path to textures need to be p:\

Buldozer startup is pasted here in the chat history

You might find it with the search

[toxic cobalt]

like that?

[stuck oyster]

Yes

[glad niche]

hello team

I have make the Greenhouse, When I destroy it, instead of turning it into a ruine object, it disappears completely. What is the solution to this problem?

[white oak]

did you define the ruin in its config?

[glad niche]

yes of course, I'll share it with you

class greenhouse: House_F
{
scope = 2;
scopeCurator = 2;
displayName = "greenhouse";
ladders[] = {};
model = "me\greenhouse.p3d";
icon = "";
class DestructionEffects: DestructionEffects
{
class Ruin
{
simulation = ruin;
type = "\me\greenhouse_ruins.p3d";
position = "";
intensity = 1;
interval = 1;
lifeTime = 1;
};
};
armor = 1000;
editorPreview = "";
};
class greenhouse_ruins: Ruins
{
scope = 2;
scopeCurator = 2;
displayName = "greenhouse ruins";
vehicleClass = "Ruins";
model = "\me\greenhouse_ruins.p3d";
icon = "";
editorPreview = "";
};

[white oak]

you're missing the land_ prefix in your class names

[glad niche]

Where do I put it?

[stuck oyster]

also its the default ruin destruction class is called ruin1 if I remember right

[stuck oyster]

ok few basic things also

[white oak]

ruin1 was from A2 iirc

[stuck oyster]

you need to select yourself a modding tag_ prefix that you put in front of your files

so your greenhouse.p3d would be called abdoo_greenhouse.p3d

so that it does not get mixed up with anyone elses greenhouse.p3d

then your classname would be called land_abdoo_greenhouse

so that the config connects with the p3d

[glad niche]

yes, I'll try

thanks @stuck oyster @white oak

The problem is not solved, guys

[stuck oyster]

simulation would still be ruin

        class DestructionEffects: DestructionEffects
        {
            class Ruin1
            {
                simulation="ruin";
                type="\A3\Structures_F\Civ\BellTowers\BellTower_02_V2_ruins_F.p3d";
                position="";
                intensity=1;
                interval=1;
                lifeTime=1;
            };
        };```

[glad niche]

oh yeah

[stuck oyster]

though since Ruin1 was not actually defined in the base classes

it can be named anything youlike

[glad niche]

I will edit it and try again.