I mean everyone on here knows that the engine is basically to old to run all this stuff hence why everyone's performance is so crap. still, they are working on the game all the time. Also I wonder why people think that people from the content department work on performance issues and the other way around. that is not how a company works.
#general_chat_arma
humble harbor
hearty island
@muted patio That expectation is true. For games that are finished and Feature complete when they get released. Arma 3 is getting new Features almost every month. With new Features come new bugs
Arma 3 is not a Call of duty
humble harbor
also it is not as buggy as people make it out to be.
to be fair I haven't had the 3fps bug since 64 was released
what isn't playable for you at the moment, ville?
hearty island
Oh yeah... I'm blinded by early-access? I never played an early-access game because most of them are shit
Arma 3 was already fully playable back in beta. And it still is.
You mean a game still getting love from their developers after 4 years is a bad thing?
urban sluice
No issues here with Arma. Runs like a charm.
hearty island
Yeah.. Because 10 years ago you couldn't just go and get a patch
unkempt cairn
are you even slightly aware of the gamebreaking bugs that just showed up months ago and still aren't fixed
humble harbor
which game braking bugs though?
hearty island
I also didn't experience any gamebreaking bugs. Never had the 3fps bug in a real play
humble harbor
while those are sometimes really unnerving they aren't game braking imo
green quarry
If you play the game in a borderless window you'll never get an alt-tab crash
urban sluice
Borderless window is a necessity if you frequently alt-tab
humble harbor
I am fullscreen and never had that.
I had the 3fps stuff but haven't had it since 1.64.
green quarry
2 on a single GPU here too no issues, must be an SLI thing
unkempt cairn
@humble harbor what is not gamebreaking? suddenly having 3 fps? not being able to use your mouse to control an aircraft? other people seeing you as naked while you have a ghillie on on your screen?
hearty island
- yeah.. If you write a script that freezes the game for several seconds then that happens. 2. already said. 3. Works for me. 3. I heard about that.. But not gamebreaking. 4. Don't use BE. 5. Not for me. 6. WTF? 7. yeah.. When broken scripts try to create stuff that doesn't exist. 8. sounds like a script adding/removing actions. 9./10. never use locking. 11. Ouh.. very game braaking. 12. Heard about that on x64. 13 height of a laser dot? a dot is a dot. it's round
unkempt cairn
i don't even know what you are on about, there is just too many reasons
humble harbor
@unkempt cairn I am not sure how frequent those bugs are. are you sure you didnt enable freelook in vehicles on accident?
hearty island
Most of that stuff sounds you are playing with some bad Mods...
urban sluice
^^^
hearty island
And you can't blame BI for that
unkempt cairn
@humble harbor yes they happen frequently. I have 485 hours played...
humble harbor
playtime is no argument for having knownledge. but yeah. apart from the 3fps thing I have't encounterd those bugs.
unkempt cairn
how playtime is no argument is a mystery for me because that is the only way to know how bugged this game really is
hearty island
You have 500 hours and complain about bugs everywhere? I have over 4000 hours. And there are no game-breaking bugs I complain about. There are some things I complain about but you could say these are not Bugs. Just features working like they were built to work
urban sluice
I have about 3k hours, and have rarely encountered any "big" issues. Arma is more open than any game I have ever played before, with the realism and detailed in all facets of combined operations. A game this massive, constantly being developed and improved with such a large community behind it. Find me another game like this.
hearty island
Again.. That infantry weapon in helicopter sounds like a bad script from a Mod
I bought DayZ standalone and played it about 4 hours. It's complete useless shit
urban sluice
Same
humble harbor
@muted patio does this happen on every server you have been on? like on your own as well?
unkempt cairn
I am very well aware there are people with way more playtime, but it is a valid concern that people who provide feedback are new and 500 hours should give you a proper understanding of the game at least, shouldn't it
hearty island
DayZ Standalone is not made by the same guys as Arma 3. DayZ is done by a seperate group of devs that only work on DayZ standalone
humble harbor
@unkempt cairn I have mates with 300 hours who haven't played anything but Wasteland. they barely know how to operate helicopters and everything besides basic infantry weapons.
hearty island
DayZ team is also much smaller
unkempt cairn
you clearly play with the wrong people then @humble harbor
hearty island
Them working for the same employer doesn't make them comparable
urban sluice
What. KoTH on a BI server? Or what game mode?
hearty island
Arma is moddable. So you can make something good out of it yourself. Even without the community you could just Mod it yourself
humble harbor
@unkempt cairn I play on several servers with all kinds of people. I also played a lot of modded "realism" stuff. I was just saying that people could bank a lot of hours in modes like Koth were you don't need to know a lot of the game and also don't learn a lot.
urban sluice
So not true.
hearty island
Kinda True. I never play without Mods. But I'm a Modder.. so why would I
urban sluice
I play on vanilla servers 90% of the time, and it is just as good as any modded server.
humble harbor
mods just extend the experience. the game is still great without mods. especially since Apex.
hearty island
I do indeed mean modder. I'm not a Life'r
humble harbor
also it doent mean that when you experience bugs that everyone has those. I never shot my infantry weapon while sitting in a helicopter.
no, it is a DLC
urban sluice
lol goodness gracious.
unkempt cairn
oh please
hearty island
I've shot my infantry weapon a ton of times sitting in a helicopter. On the rails of a little bird shooting at the enemy
humble harbor
well I am sorry that I haven't heard about that one yet.
urban sluice
It is a DLC, what else do you expect? But it is native, and it is of upmost quality.
COD and Battlefield all have DLC's up the ass, so now Arma does it and it is different?
Not just Tanoa honestly.
urban sluice
I have hosted over 1,000 servers in less than 2 years, and 99% of the problems that are asked about are because of mods/missions.
What do you know, I happen to host those as well...
Host all the official and unofficial servers for the 15thMEU.
Many other large communities as well.
hearty island
This is the second time in a week that such a bitchhead joins discord. Complains about how shit Arma is and attacks everyone that says anything against it. I love the good old times where it was quiet here
humble harbor
I still don't understand all that ranting. If you really don't want to bother with the game anymore because of 'all those bugs' just don't play it anymore.
unkempt cairn
i am quite late with it @sour sinew cause those errors started happening a month ago or so
more like multiple months
urban sluice
LOL smfh
humble harbor
ville, just buy EA games then. they don't even bother to patch their games nowadays since you already spent your money.
urban sluice
Not even sure why I am still here. I have better things to do with my time. Go find a bug free game.
hearty island
I don't understand why you are so offensive...
urban sluice
π toodaloo
hearty island
Arma 3 is not a military simulator
That's VBS
Arma 3 is a militiary style shooter
Arma 2 was advertised as a military simulation. But Arma 3 not anymore
Sandbox != simulation
Making a Game means making something that's fun to play
A military Simulation is not fun to play for most gamers
That's why they dropped the Simulation Tag with Arma 3
humble harbor
@muted patio honestly why do you even bother anymore when you don't like the game? like honestly
then report your bugs and try to help them solve your issue. ranting and your aggressive memes won't help at all.
hearty island
Well.. I didn't buy any DLC... Because I have no need for it
Why do you buy everything if you don't even know that you need/want it
Arma 2 had less bugs? And wasn't still in development years after it was released?
Yeah.. BI has more than just Arma... I also have to laugh about that everytime...
humble harbor
I really like the constant work they put into the game. The content wasn't nearly as good at the beginning as it is now.
hearty island
what? You are getting really ridiculous now
humble harbor
work in progress does not mean releasing unfinished content
hearty island
And yeah.. Arma is still being worked on. Which is actually one of the things that makes Arma so exceptional and different from other Games
unkempt cairn
this hurts to read
hearty island
Same
Ah okey.. If you think that's the reason... Then have a nice day
The Arma engine originated in a Time where there were no engines to buy
why ukraine?
unkempt cairn
good thing they concentrate on arma bugs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_On_Mars
oh wait, they are making a mars exploration game
humble harbor
yeah, porting the game to another engine sounds like a really good idea lol
unkempt cairn
think about those 3 words "mars exploration game"
hearty island
The same company doing multiple things doesn't mean the Arma developers are working on that other thing
unkempt cairn
that's like toilet diving simulator
hearty island
As I said before DayZ team is working on DayZ Project Argo team is working on Project Argo. And Take on Mars team is working on Take on Mars. These teams have nothing in common
Why don't you complain about EA making multiple games? But complain about BI instead?
humble harbor
lol
hearty island
But why do you have one with BI?
So... It's that only companies that you buy Games from are shit? Don't you think that may be because of you instead of the companies?
Trolls should be left to die. I hope you have a good time doing that. Bye
humble harbor
complaining about a game being worked on years after release lol
hearty island
I bought Arma 3 for 10β¬. And could have gotten all DLC's for about 20-30β¬. You only need to use your brain when buying and you get off cheaper.
humble harbor
the game isn't unstable. the rage would be immense if it would be
unkempt cairn
jesus christ.
hearty island
If it was such a bad game.. Why are thousands of people buying it and playing it every day?. Must be because they are all Dumb and just don't notice how shit it is.
How do you explain that?
humble harbor
if the vanilla game would be as buggy as you are saying none of these mods would work
I am not experiencing game braking issues atm at all
have played for consecutive 3,5 hours today and haven't had 3fps or infantry gun while operating helicopter etc
true. but it also tells that it isn't necessarilly the game which is causing the errors
hearty island
Please upload the crashreports so BI can fix it. > feedback.bistudio.com
That was actually quite often the case.. The 3fps bug seems to be hardware dependant. Some people never experience it but other people get it after a minute
humble harbor
just deinstall the game at this point. that way no one needs to listen to your rants on here anymore.
hearty island
You uploaded dozens of crash reports? How? Where? You didn't even know the bugtracker existed an hour ago
Oh so now it's sarcasm? You said there is no bugtracker. And were then laughing about how it says Project as if you've never seen it
@muted patio It would help. not you.. But it helps the other people that have to deal with People like you
humble harbor
I bet it isnt your first time wasting money. Carry on. Your monologue on here isnt helping anyone.
native charm
I've always seen Arma as framework for which modders will bolt good stuff onto
as for 3FPS bug, it happens to some, not all and BI is well aware of it
humble harbor
Well I hope you venting on here helped you getting tired :D
hearty island
Anyone know if there is a study about why it's so hard to stop arguing with Trolls?
humble harbor
You are looking for a perfect game. There is none.
Then you should visit the minesweeper discord instead
hearty island
I open my doors by just pressing space.
humble harbor
I dont like the action menu as well but they decided to do it this way and so there is that
hearty island
also AFAIK you first have to disable the safety before you can detonate via Action menu
humble harbor
He told you that he is only playing modded. Why should he know lol
Detonation charges work completely different with ACE and stuff
hearty island
Thats why I wrote "AFAIK" last time I detonated a Vanilla charge was in Arma 2
humble harbor
Still the action menu isnt gamebraking. It is just bothering you.
hearty island
If you are unhappy with Arma vanilla. Just get some Mods and make it better. Nothing stops you from doing that
Then run x64 version. 3fps bug happens less there
urban sluice
I heard a good fix for the 3 fps bug is to delete system32. Works every time supposedly.
Just something I've heard.
hearty island
Still.. prevents 3fps bug from happening. If the 3fps bug is a problem for you. The just use the proven working workaround. x64 is even used by default by Arma Launcher
so right now you are complaining about a bug that only appears when changing default settings to run a worse version of the Game.
Arma works on Linux. There is a Linux port that works quite fine
Hackers are way less on Linux
humble harbor
Is there anything you are optimistic about or is everything black tinted in your life lol?
urban sluice
Learn to take a joke Ffs. Bottom line, if you don't like the game after playing since it was released, and you are still here after 3+ years it must not be too terrible. Just move on.
Just delete the game and move on if it is so terrible
Then by all means, keep ranting. I'm just here for the entertainment for the most part, and to help people.
jaunty whale
@muted patio Armahosts is hands down the best A3 provider.
hearty island
I'll generally happily help everyone. Unless after the first sentence of them I can see they are brainless idiots.
jaunty whale
Don't hate on them just because they engage with the community π
urban sluice
jaunty whale
I meant more by the fact that you were calling Garrett unprofessional mate. There's no reason he can't joke around and still offer great stuff
But that's just my two cents.
It was a joke mate.
Can a company not have funny employees? I cracked a smile.
but I'm not marketing rep, I'm an engineer
so what I can suggest... http://a142.idata.over-blog.com/600x467/4/04/18/10/Sans-titre.bmp.jpg
urban sluice
My company. That I've built from nothing. Find me another server hosting company that interacts with this community on a personal level. Take a damn joke
jaunty whale
That's a diagram showing a desalination technique, as you seem to need to reduce your salt levels π
I've never seen that host before, but I think it's fair to say that if I haven't, it probably doesn't interact with the community man.
"that interacts with this community on a personal level"
And you posted an unrelated company.
urban sluice
If my target audience was 12yo I would be hosting minecraft
jaunty whale
Either way, I'm leaving. I don't hang around here to get in arguments.
urban sluice
I don't care about profit.... I built this company to give this community the best services available for a good price
Add .com to what's in my name
hearty island
People that are too dumb to google π
humble harbor
Best troll of the week for sure
jaunty whale
This chat isn't here to talk about your fear of google. Private message Garrett if you have a problem with him man.
hearty island
@humble harbor Way better than the last one a few days ago π
urban sluice
My profit margin is a couple bucks
hearty island
Those Servers are too pricy for me :x I could get over double the power for the same price. But then I wouldn't get any support when hosting my own
urban sluice
It's not about the money for me. Good service to a good community
hearty island
But I'm not the target audience for hosting companies anyway
urban sluice
PM me if you wish to talk about my business. Get back to Arma
night rover
jesus christ this guy
urban sluice
</trolls>
</rants>
<arma_general_chat>
don't think that guy was even trolling, just crazy and entitled
night rover
"I booted up my linux and requested print image from the site" is my new copy pasta
urban sluice
π
hearty island
Need someone to archive all these conversations and make a compilation someday. Or a auto answering AI
sour rose
hearty island
night rover
it's not even an arma video, it's that scrub battlegrounds game
poor man's arma 3 battle royale mod
knotty plinth
@hearty island You'd be surprised at the help you can get when self hosting, I've gotten bits of help for servers where I've been clueless but as soon as they point few things out, it's up and running and I often strive to lend a hand if I'm capable of helping out, like Conans Exile, I had a server up 8 hours before launch and for three days straight I was doing nothing but giving out help, helping people, I've actually managed to save two of those people as friends who're super nice and super cool
red violet
@clear flower speaking of Conan server hosting, is there any way of making it not take up 8+ GB of ram? :V
I've got it running in a VM and I need to allocate 10GB to keep it from crashing
knotty plinth
I don't believe so, I've noticed it was rather Ram hungry like Ark
knotty plinth
Enjoy the pizza Optix?
dreamy marsh
After you woke me up at 5 am to fix something in my Web dashboard, yes, yes I did
Now I'm on my way to university
My fault that my phone had sound notifications on lol
knotty plinth
Hahahaha I'm so sorry man! You had a green dot on you on the PM board β€
knotty plinth
Oh lord, how does that go?
dreamy marsh
I dont have it running all the time though
Well it plays a beeping sound
If something of my system goes to Davy Jones locker
knotty plinth
I'd sort something out if my server decides 70c or higher is a nice point to be at but then I highl doubt it'd wake me up, had a power cut once and my UPS was beeping like mad but the thing that woke me up was my brother coming in because he could hear it from upstairs
feral reef
OPTiX - Today at 7:38 AM
I always do
My pc is configured to give me a loud warning when shit hits the fan```
Thx for the Info =}π
feral reef
π
finite relic
Trolls
feral reef
Where?
dreamy marsh
@finite relic is one @feral reef
finite relic
Bridges are in short supply around here.
Nothing worse than waking up to over 500 messages in which one person rages about every topic under the sun then starts personally attacking people. That's the definition of a troll.
livid ice
@finite relic What's up bud
night rover
that dude was on some next level rant for real
red violet
why do I always miss these
night rover
imagine someone complaining about arma for 2 hours
that's pretty much it
has there been any talk of creating an alternative to armaholic?
something better than the forums for keeping up to date with which mods have been updated
feral reef
meh
Would be the same, as updating your Infos in the Forums or SteamWorkShop Page.. you have to checkout all files by hand. So it would be the same. No point in doing it, tbh
cinder charm
moddb is a bit of a horrible UI though
And isn't categorised well at all
I don't think it's really equipped to deal with the amount of user content Arma 3 brings
night rover
well, it's got a feed which updates as people upload new mods or update their existing ones: http://www.moddb.com/games/arma-3
and i'd say moddb is one of the only sites equipped to deal with the amount of content arma generates
it's been around for years, still stronk
ui isn't great, but it's 100x better than armaholic's π
feral reef
I agree with Phantastic, horrible UI
night rover
i agree with that too, but there's not a lot of options really
unless someone creates a new site. maybe something which devs can submit a git repo url to and the site will auto update, or something.
the forums and workshop are just terrible for browsing π¦
cinder charm
When I say no equipped
I don't mean it's servers (although the server delivery is also quite user-unfriendly)
I mean the functional user end is absolutely not appropriate for delivering 1000s of mods to a userbase
It's very much for overhauls or lowkey games, that's always been its purpose
night rover
you can bet on it still being there in 5+ years though, which is a pretty big deal
at this rate armaholic will be going down probably
would be great if valve just made the workshop less shit. that would be problem solved.
cinder charm
Is the Arma community really adverse to Nexusmods or something?
night rover
i seem to recall some kind of file size limit which isn't reasonable for a3 stuff
night rover
there seems to be a grand total of 4 arma mods on nexus lol
that's quite pitiful, even compared to moddb
cinder charm
yeah it's very surprising because it's more or less the same as arma holic
night rover
none of these sites have a sensible category system though, except the workshop and armaholic
like you need to be able to filter terrain/vehicle/uniform/etc or it'll be a total shit show
cinder charm
the nexusmods category system is entirely user curated
night rover
ah right
night rover
yeah github isn't a bad idea imo
cinder charm
github is never a bad idea π
night rover
kerbal space program's modders have basically all agreed to host on github, it works rather well
and sqf is open source anyway, so
livid ice
Tell that to maverick
pale patio
well, at least until Github realise they can no longer subsidise the free repositories
night rover
yeah if the venture capital money runs out everyone is fucked
livid ice
Github is only an interface for a git server
You have free hosting ones like gitlab
Or other open source git systems
So you can host your own server anyway
pale patio
right, but the point of github is that they are paying for the petabytes of space required to host all that free content and managing the infrastructure
night rover
a minus point for git is that some devs probably just can't be bothered to learn/use it. they should, but i expect a surprising number wouldn't.
livid ice
Yeah right
pale patio
as we already know, that was something Armaholic can no longer afford because it takes a lot of money and time
livid ice
Git is not even that hard to use. You have simple tools
night rover
it's less simple than "upload" button, which is a barrier to entry
livid ice
Of course but once you get it it's quite simple
And an average user does not have to learn all the functionalities like milestones etcc
Well, you can just upload the releases anyway
pale patio
@night rover I was massively opposed to switching from svn to git 10 years back, it was a lot more complicated and I didn't see the necessity given that SVN 'just worked'
now these days I use git at home, git at work, git for the open source projects I work on. I still think it can be complex, but once you realise that 99% of the time you'll use just half a dozen commands it's not so bad
night rover
i agree fully, but you gotta think of Average Joe The Arma Modder
livid ice
Who uses commands when you can have sourcetree, gitkraken etc...
night rover
armaholic caters to average joe, that's why it is/was #1
pale patio
there was definitely a very steep learning curve though, even coming from a decade plus of using CVS, Mercurial, SVN etc.
dreamy marsh
it was
livid ice
@night rover Because they just need to press the big Upload button ?
pale patio
although maybe that's why there was a learning curve, it was something different so I had to realign my expectations/understanding of how these things work
if you're on windows, not using the command line, then yeah, there are a bunch of GUI tools that basically simplify it down to pressing one or two buttons
livid ice
+1
night rover
yeh big up the sourcetree crew π
feral reef
The rest of the Series -> Throw it away (e.g.: HipChat.. where you can't even edit your fkn Message, easily....)
pale patio
not familiar with sourcetree since it's Windows/Mac only and being the uber cool leet hacker that I am (hah) I only use the command line version
feral reef
boring
pale patio
except for the git blame integration in my editor
night rover
i even used Jira for about 10 minutes to track issues for my arma stuff haha
feral reef
Jira... shiver
night rover
i don't know wtf i was thinking
livid ice
lel
feral reef
We tried it for 2017mod... worst decision ever. Poor Uro bought it for a year, back then ( sry @unreal rivet π )
night rover
first issue that should be logged in a Jira setup is the fact you're using Jira imo
pale patio
I can finally, thankfully say that we're moving away from Jira/Stash at work. The moment I was given full control over the software that we use for the project I jettisoned it faster than an rocket from it's tube
night rover
issue #1: we need to find a new issue tracker
livid ice
mantis ?
feral reef
Everything > Phabricator
imho: Its overly complicated, overloaded, not realy userfriendly
pale patio
currently trialling using the 'issues' feature of Gitlab ... not entirely sure about it, it covers the basics well enough but it might ultimately be too simplistic. The advantage is that it puts the repository features in the same place as the issues with tight integration, no longer do we need 2-3 tabs open, but we'll see
livid ice
"The advantage is that it puts the repository features in the same place as the issues". Imo, this is bad and often confusing
pale patio
it's also free, which is a massive win with the finance department and means I'm free to give access to everyone I want. I can let the Ops/Business teams directly create their own tickets instead of a messy system of bugs/feature requests coming in via email, direct messages, phone calls and the dreaded spreadsheets
and now we're heading deep into #offtopic territory
feral reef
about the Arma Feedbacktracker π
unreal rivet
huh?
feral reef
About Jira / Sourcetree stuff, Uro
unreal rivet
oh
feral reef
bought it -> Never used
unreal rivet
we got bitbucket + bamboo, they were throwing jira away fr free at the time
feral reef
Ah right, Bamboo was the other crap thing
feral reef
yeah.
unreal rivet
I still use bitbucket at home here,. its useful for keeping track of stuff, commit notes etc
besides it wasnt that expensive for what you get
feral reef
Yeah, i did that too. Switched over to GitLab.com and store everything i do on there.
unreal rivet
haha wow, just checked thier site, they changed their pricing model now π
feral reef
(10Gb Repo, helloo??? Perfect)
dreamy pulsar
At least issue tracking is not done via newsgroup (anymore) π
night rover
there will be some guys out there using a CRT monitor, model M keyboard and newsgroup for issue tracking, i guarantee it 100%
dreamy pulsar
Right now for our small mod project we're faring quite well with a google forms/spreadsheet, actually. It makes the reporting an issue fairly quick and uncompilcated. Prefab fields and no funky UI/loadtime BS that usually makes bugreporting "inconvienent". and if bugreporting is inconvienent, less bugs will be reported.
livid ice
" less bugs will be reported" = Less work π
dreamy pulsar
π
loud grove
Guys, me and my friend are coming back to ARMA 3, What survival mods should we play? I just search for like half a hour and it realy hard to see what is popular now. i saw something called Desolation Redux, it is any good? there are good servers for it in EU area?
vale valley
@feral reef jira works fine, phabricator too ... it's more about setings, design the gui, addons , tweaks
for example it takes same some time to realize, there are 2 separate search and filter systems in phabricator / maniphest
moddb UI is old but works ... reasonable modern redesign would be nice for html5 era but ... only if it's better than existing one π€£
feral reef
@vale valley I never said they do not work. They just give me the icecold shiver.
Jira: For Companys, prolly usefull. For ordinary Modder (like 99,9% in here), not rly needed.
Personaly, Phabricator is "The Horror" for me. I just don't like it. The (bright) look, the layout of the UI... the whole UI... meh... no.
I miss the old (but kicked out for good reasons) and Clean Interface of Mantis. Even when it looked like a Homepage from the late 1990's.
(btw.: Why is there no Vote-Button anymore? π )
*... i should press Enter, when i am done writing -.-
pale patio
Jira works, but it's not the best designed UX IMHO
feral reef
@finite relic
vale valley
Ordinary modder can't afford Jira, simple as that (tho i think there might be loophole, cause DBG community uses it now)
finite relic
Dwarden of the fast fingers
feral reef
10$ Dwarden π
vale valley
Mantis is also horror (insecurity and design/featureset is mess)
feral reef
Thats why i mentioned "(but kicked out for good reasons)". But Design... naaahhh, imo it was cleaner
vale valley
so ye Phabricator just need some better skinned dark UI and some features and it will be ok
Redmine and Trac is in similar ballpark ...
feral reef
never heard of it before.
red violet
sites with dark skins <3
feral reef
Whole Desktop is black, i open Phab -> Eyes start burning like a Vampire exposed to the sun.
unique haven
only thing is the theme. otherwise when I made my own dashboard, I'm ok with the feedback tracker. now at least every game is in the same tracker
//ok not 100% sure about the search thingy
feral reef
own Dashboard?
unique haven
can you see this? https://feedback.bistudio.com/dashboard/view/5/
feral reef
Always empty
I have to click on everything, go get results first.
You may laugh, but there are too many MouseClicks (iirc it was called "MouseMeter") involved, to get the Information i want.
unique haven
of course you can custom yourself what works for you. but that's what I'm very happy with
feral reef
Do you have any Results, when you click on that link or is it standard everywhere on "None"?
unique haven
standard "none" so I can go on where I want first and I can easily close from the "none" button because it opens up a pretty big list
feral reef
dposgndsbgdifs nah, not my cup of tea
feral reef
i want a dark UI π
rustic moat
@eager sealDaniel#5507 Exile is the main one, I guess
hot willow
@loud grove breaking point is good, exile's alright, epoch's pretty naff for actual survival
rustic moat
I hate the AI on exile servers, everyone has them so piss poor because they don't want to lose stuff. Militarized servers are the worst! What they really mean is, you get good guns etc but the AI get crap π¦ All I want is a good gun fight lol
red violet
Asymmetric warfare is not for you apparently
unique haven
I unsubscribed like 60 tasks and now they're all recently updated π
feral reef
β One of the reasons π
unique haven
I think that also happened in the old tracker
would be good if that doesn't actually update the task
stoic token
so my project argo isnt starting up even though it says its running
theres more people on the forums that have this
feral reef
#project_argo <--
hearty island
So apparently that Troll from this morning is banned now? ._. Hope someone has a backup of that conversation. It was comedy gold
Praise Lord Ε panΔl for bringing this glory game to us! bows down
feral reef
π€¦
hollow nymph
@vale valley "ordinary" modders can get an open source license for all Atlassian products (of course if the mod is open source)
feral reef
Even if not: 10 User -> 10$
hollow nymph
Cloud vs self installed version
feral reef
Yerp
hearty island
I have a JIRA instance. But not using it cuz it's a bit pointless when alone
feral reef
Even with 3-4 ppl... more work than use.
feral reef
π
deft bone
Okay guys, which one of you has an amazing memory AND knows what i'm talking about
I once played a co-op mission in OPERATION FLASHPOINT where there were teleporting Spetznaz AI
When they would teleport in the field, all the clouds would rapidly turn to thunder clouds and when you killed them, it would rapidly get sunny again
Players who got killed by the spetznaz were actually "Abducted" and placed into a prison camp
red violet
Demonic Russians?
deft bone
And players who were alive could rescue them in at a later point...
that's all pretty much i remember
i wish i could find that mission again (or a video of it) because i think the concept of the mission was pretty awesome
unkempt zephyr
What's up guys
hearty island
Everything that's not below.
feral reef
badumm tss
finite relic
@deft bone I don't remember that one.
pale patio
@vale valley If it's not true that a carrier will be included in the Jets DLC, then may I politely suggest you squash that rumour right now? There are people talking like it's 100% confirmed and repeating it all over the place, which is only going to cause a lot of upset when the release comes and it's not there.
I can hear the tantrums from people who pre-ordered the DLC with the expectation that a carrier was included right now
hearty island
Well.. If People buy something and think it has something while it nowhere says that it does have it.. It's not BI's fault...
pale patio
absolutely true and yet they will blame BI. I don't know if you saw the Steam forums around the time that APEX was released? It was seriously ugly and never-ending
livid ice
Ppl just have too much hopes
flint lake
Remember the cargo ship from the Tanoa preview screen?
pale patio
yep, you have to crush those hopes and dreams with an iron fist, a little hope is a dangerous thing
flint lake
hoo boy
livid ice
(But yeah for real it would have been cool to have all buildings opened in Tanoa)
pale patio
@flint lake They were even there in one of the Apex Protocol campaign missions, moored offshore iirc
livid ice
Remember female models ?
flint lake
You sure that wasn't a trawler?
flint lake
It's been awhile since I've played through Apex Protocol
pale patio
hmm, maybe ... yeah, you could be right
livid ice
People are just too optimistic each time
pale patio
there are plenty of examples and every time all it would have taken is for someone at BI to just say that it won't happen before things get out of hand
flint lake
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
livid ice
It would make SOME people realize they dont need/want to buy their dlcs
humble harbor
well people are stupid when they buy something because of a thing that was hinted but not confirmed by anyone.
finite relic
It just means that when you buy something "sight unseen" don't let your mind run wild. Jets is plural, meaning more than one. If you get 3 planes, be happy.
feral reef
Crying but knowing nothing so far. First world problems Β―_(γ)_/Β―
finite relic
Yup
flint lake
I didn't pre-purchase the DLC expecting anything specific down the the road, I bought it because I've enjoyed the stuff BI has come up with in previous DLCs and I wish to support them in future efforts.
feral reef
@flint lake Your guys did that Ship?
I bought the DLC instantly... why? > 7k Hours π
flint lake
If by "did" you mean "took the CUP LHD and stuck a bunch of stuff on it", then yes.
livid ice
lmao
feral reef
Yeah, it just noticed.. dang, i barely noticed the LHD π
livid ice
Looks good anyway
finite relic
Took me a few min to realise what you did there (small pic)
flint lake
...I think it's the CUP one anyway.
feral reef
Same here π
flint lake
Could be the Atlas one.
feral reef
I thought it was a new modeled Ship π
finite relic
The "bridge" gave it away
flint lake
Don't say "new" and "ships" in the same sentence!
finite relic
Let's not get Carrier'd away now
flint lake
Someone is gonna screenshot it and post it to the subreddit or forums as "ORANGE DLC IS NAVAL CONFIRMED"
Or something equally sensationalist.
feral reef
π
finite relic
And some idiot is bound to believe it
onyx lantern
feral reef
@vale valley When is it planned, to give us peasants Informations about OrangeDLC? π₯
flint lake
And this is coming from a guy who has a habit of starting all of his missions with a beach landing.
livid ice
They'll add some fruits and stuff
Premium Dlc
For real some mapping stuff including fruit trees would be nice
finite relic
Someone mentioned "the humanitarian/ refugee" side of war as being "Orange"
flint lake
If we're going off that super blown-up image of a whiteboard in the Amsterdam office
feral reef
Full MedicSystem that screws up ACE π
flint lake
Then "War Correspondence" and "OV-10X" are totally confirmed...
onyx wigeon
This was my "Orange" prediction: http://www.pmma.edu.ph/images/photos/phffl.jpg
finite relic
No, that's Captain Phillips...
onyx wigeon
even better!
feral reef
2035 - Netherland is flooded - time to get in the Boats.
BOATS DLC!
urban sluice
Its going to be some sort of toy DLC like karts was, otherwise itwould have a more descriptive name.
finite relic
Isn't there a Legoland in Orange country?
flint lake
How many times do they have to say that "Orange" is a working/placeholder title?
finite relic
I was going to say Holland, but that makes me sound old
feral reef
π
urban sluice
BI isn't really one for hiding their roadmap except when its some nonsense so it would uncharacteristic for it to be anything military.
feral reef
So true, so fricking true
flint lake
I don't even work for BI but the amount of "it's totally adding the Dutch, guys!" is giving me an ulcer.
unique haven
well the obivious is that the orange doesn't relate at all what the dlc will be. it's just fun to say what orange could mea π
finite relic
I say it's lego war
flint lake
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
feral reef
I so wanna highlight each minion... i hate waiting/guessing -.-
urban sluice
Its racing drones or some wacky game mode or paintball or such.
feral reef
@finite relic Oh right, Lego War, i forgot that π
flint lake
Oh shit, I never thought about quadcopter racing before!
I know what stupid after-event mission I'm making for my group now!
feral reef
Minions, pls... end our misery! We know you read that stuff here and laugh like Dr. Evil!
onyx wigeon
Are there time trials missions for darters btw?
finite relic
Right now, Arma without Lego is like the Lord of the Rings...... Legolas π
feral reef
badumm tss
flint lake
Beat me to it.
urban sluice
Maybe its all a ruse and they are taking the most suggested random ideas associated with Orange and implementating that, its a double bluff
feral reef
@finite relic rly? Rly?? Even i wouldn't say that XD
finite relic
That WOULD be a smart move
onyx wigeon
I can almost hear the dutch taking notes right behind us
feral reef
π
finite relic
Because no one does crap jokes as well as I do.
feral reef
I do
onyx wigeon
π©
feral reef
exactly π
flint lake
LANDING CRAFT
urban sluice
I am sort of curious but I know the jets DLC is going to disappointment as marksman did and all the others before it so one with a name like Orange leaves low expectations to behin with but its curious.
hearty island
Didn't marksman DLC have deploying weapons?
flint lake
That was part of the free update, yes.
urban sluice
If its just orange versions of everything I would laugh, I want me an orange camo set.
feral reef
I wouldn't say Marksman "dissapointed", not even close.
feral reef
Navid, KotH, here we go.
urban sluice
It had deploying weapons and that was done OK but it added more fake weapons and then didn't do anything with the wind and such in the game. So much more to do on marksmanship andscopes really
flint lake
I've never touched KotH
feral reef
I can still hear the crys and feel the pain of other players about "uuhh cheater weapon" muhahahahahaha, as i would give a damn.
onyx wigeon
I just noticed the orange logo also resembles wings. So.... humanitarian air service?
flint lake
Medium Machine Guns have a legitimate place in the modern infantry platoon, damnit.
feral reef
Yeah, something was mentioned before @onyx wigeon
urban sluice
Its the mechanics I care about, mildots and ranging with them, range tables and compensating for the wind and ballastic drop and all that jazz.
onyx wigeon
I think pretty much everything is mentioned by now
pale patio
the most credible idea for 'Orange' is the Civilian campaign, in the footsteps of "This War of Mine"
urban sluice
ACE did it so its fine we have it as we did in the prior versions these days.
flint lake
I'm honestly not sure wind is a feasible thing for BI to implement.
pale patio
or at least the most credible idea I've seen
feral reef
Orange DLC = Memory Leak/Bug is fixed.
urban sluice
Wow bug fixes behind a pay wall....a new low and one with the most sales
A DLC with +10% performance is an instant hit!
pale patio
we've been given exactly three clues for Orange - "different perspective", "mid-sized DLC" and iirc something was said about new models/outfits
urban sluice
I have never suffered the 5fps bug but a team mate did last night for the first time, he is not a fan. Its never appeared in our games before so its a worrying sign its there now
hearty island
Bi already implemented Wind. script setWind
flint lake
I'm honestly just a sucker for new content.
feral reef
ThatWimmerKid - Today at 6:41 PM
I'm honestly just a sucker```
Quoting that and saved for eternityBI never does engine fixes behind a paywall. We always get engine stuff for free
flint lake
It's an honor
feral reef
o7
urban sluice
But +10% performance for $10 would you pay?!
flint lake
You can put that quote on the back of the physical box.
Performance isn't content, so no.
And so far, the Arma gods have blessed me with reasonable performance.
urban sluice
We had poor performance in the biggest town in Lingor last night ~45 fps but other than that its >60. 1.68 is a little slower in some areas than 1.66, drastically at times
quartz magnet
had poor perf off the coast of Pyrgos yesterday
but what's worse is the freaking helicopter noise bug
urban sluice
Had this odd bug last night with vehicle sounds where if you went into the map the vehicle drove away and the sound disappeared.
unique haven
I couldn't google what the logo means generally. you can find similar logos naturally if you just type handshake wings
angel wings, handshake or is it actually a helping hand?
maiden olive
SQF tag was just created on stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/sqf
feral reef
oh my
unique haven
yeah pretty sure that orange logo means helping hands. wings are either to make it cool and military or they've a deeper meaning like life saving, or flying life savers etc.
hearty island
Finally. An easy way to farm reputation :3
dreamy marsh
@feral reef oh my
feral reef
Oh myyyyy
pale patio
sadly that would only make sense in the game with a more advanced medical system, since everyone can be healed easily with a simple medkit, you wouldn't need to stretcher people off the battlefield
feral reef
@finite relic / @vale valley β
urban sluice
F to pray for them
onyx wigeon
in 2035 all you need to do is stab morphin to your leg and your teammate will feel better
maiden olive
medigel
urban sluice
1 like = 1 prayer
quartz magnet
i think just trying to be edgy
I dunno if it's being edgy or just people being a bit tired of shooty bang for the sake of shooty bang
maiden olive
finger hits g and frags the casualty
hearty island
Change that to Press Z and the God will hear you and send lightning
feral reef
@urban sluice You okay? π
urban sluice
Just trying to have some laughs haha
pale patio
in a world full of war, suffering and death, is it any wonder that developers would explore the other side?
quartz magnet
#makeArmaNotWar π
pale patio
wait, the other side ... the Ghost DLC?
well, This War of Mine made back it's money in two days ... so maybe they are onto something
quartz magnet
yeah i mean there's really no harm in looking at the other side of things tbh
if they can do it well, why not
onyx wigeon
but you did love karts though, right?
quartz magnet
untrue, your assumption is that mil ops don't involve humanitarian/human rights considerations
maiden olive
OneKartPerChild
dreamy marsh
1 like = 1 gokart
urban sluice
Still sitting here waiting for the "Arma" Eau De Combat
quartz magnet
And seeing that Arma community is >20, i think we can have a slightly more mature (or at least wholesome) take on things
dreamy marsh
@quartz magnet I find this offensive
quartz magnet
globally? π
feral reef
buuhuuuhuuuu
pale patio
Spec Ops: The Line didn't fair too badly either, though I hated the manipulation in the gameplay - give you absolutely no other choice but to kill people and then guilt you with it
quartz magnet
well the focus was narrative there, i guess they required it
feral reef
SuicideKing - Today at 7:03 PM
And seeing that Arma community is >20```
Some are even older. Like @finite relic He is closer to the 50, then to the 20.well 50 is > 20 π
quartz magnet
i wanted to say that the average age is ~30 in arma community
but i dont' really know, i guess that's true with the "core" community
pale patio
mid 30s would be my guess
quartz magnet
sounds a bit high to me
finite relic
Would be my guess as well
feral reef
Yeah, about 30 sounds right
livid ice
Lmao you didn't count life community
urban sluice
RPG
finite relic
Look at forum registrations. Even if you figure someone joined at 10 years old in 2006, they're what 21 now? Don't know of many 10 year olds registering for BI Forum
Those are also the ones that rarely stick around. My stepson quits playing most games within a month
quartz magnet
yeah i think communities are older
one i play with is mostly 20-35 with some outliers
other one i sometimes play with is 16-30
by milsim you mean organised+milsim i suppose?
urban sluice
By definition, milsim simply means "Military Simulation".
quartz magnet
well milsim usually = mods + radio + ranks + etc
urban sluice
So anything resembling a military simulation scenario counts
quartz magnet
while organised usually just means there's some structure to the game
livid ice
you don't need any mods to play milsim
feral reef
damnit, mine went to 64 again -.-
livid ice
Arma is a milsim
urban sluice
Not as many as there should be.
livid ice
I saw 2 lmao
quartz magnet
i see one password enabled server, so probably one organised community
to be fair
today is monday
look again Friday through Sunday evening
and you'll find more organised communities playing
finite relic
Game tracker is still a thing? It's like the MySpace/AOL of game stuff.
feral reef
I see 3 with PW, and of them had the tendency to steal IP
GameTracker? Of course FM. Nice to have an overview of your Server.
quartz magnet
oh no i accept that
livid ice
Well whats wrong with players not playing milsim ?
finite relic
I think the point is that how many of those that are not playing "milsim" will still be playing Arma in 2 months?
quartz magnet
because that is relevant to the list in question
nah, i was just explaining absence of communities π
livid ice
@finite relic A lot, some life and exiles are pretty consistent
quartz magnet
i don't doubt where the playerbase goes for pew pew
finite relic
Haha, "few"
feral reef
more than you think. Some just don't know how to use Discord
They are too old to learn that
livid ice
It's probably because milsim requires patience and a maturity you don't need in other gamemods
feral reef
And you expect LIFE player are all young? Thats just wrong
finite relic
I think just looking at Gametracker is skewing statistics
quartz magnet
^
feral reef
You can't make a Statistic out of GameTracker results^^
livid ice
π
feral reef
What do you base your assumption on?
feral reef
"legacy"
quartz magnet
I dunno, had a random 13 year old play with us for a few weeks last year π
feral reef
And i had 4 ~50 olds on my Server^^
quartz magnet
excitable but never troublesome
feral reef
One of them was about 45 and my KotH Mod
quartz magnet
you say "milsim", i read "cosplay" π
hides
ooh
stats of stats
pie charts and such
15% coop, i'm impressed π
livid ice
CTI, man I miss those missions
quartz magnet
i dunno what sandbox is, i assume zeus
livid ice
Sandbox is probably Zeus but is also often used for dynamic milsims
quartz magnet
if you read the other categories, you'll see there are quite a few misc modes that are probably some variant of other modes
also only looks at 4k players
quartz magnet
out of 20-30k that play daily
livid ice
How many servers does not broadcast themselves through steam tho ?
livid ice
I guess if you don't forward steam ports / use cracked binaries it will not display on the server list (direct connect)
wat
Oh ok lmao
I didn't get it at first ahaha
Well I'm wondering how many ppl it represents tnh
There where many cracked lifes that were working quite good not so long ago
Cracked Altis Life RPG servers
Idk if they are popular anymore
pale patio
ssshhh, don't go putting ideas in BI's head
hearty island
As a dev I can say there are more people than expected that play cracked Arma on a regular basis. Which I don't understand.. You can sometimes get Arma for 10 bucks
turbid quartz
o.o
hearty island
Yes
livid ice
Cracked Arma includes whatever you want
And Battleye works lol
- YUou can make a server accepting both legit and cracked
turbid quartz
I saw something about getting free dlcs the other day (on top of a paid legit A3 copy)
quartz magnet
Is it going to far to call the milsim users "Legacy users"?
yes
a) i wouldn't conflate organised with milsim
b) i wouldn't use the term legacy
it's like Microsoft trying to replace Explorer with Metro UI by calling it legacy
livid ice
lmao
quartz magnet
last time i checked in #end_of_life_arma it was about A2 π
milsim, maybe, organised communities - no.
ok π
I was about to play the "ST videos get people into arma" card XD
ouch
i don't actually remember how i started. I think i saw an article on RPS back in late 2012 or early 2013
then came across dslyecxi's channel
via community guides
it seemed to me that Arma was "like battlefield + America's Army but better"
and jumped in the Alpha
finite relic
I got a demo CD in PC Gamer for Operation Flashpoint...
quartz magnet
π
feral reef
GameStar for me
finite relic
2001
quartz magnet
interestingly demo CD was how i got into America's Army...
hearty island
I'm one of the many DayZ guys π
feral reef
Yeah @finite relic
quartz magnet
maybe ~2008
feral reef
Hands on the table, since when are you guys in?
anyone who is reading this atm =} (btw.: Me the same as FM, 2001 - OFP Demo)
quartz magnet
~April 2013 (A3 Alpha)
hearty island
Arma 2 CO 27.06.2012
flint lake
I had an interest in Arma since I saw some ST stuff from around 2010/2011 while I was still in high school, and even though I own A2:OA the computer I had at the time couldn't hold a playable frame rate.
hearty island
The 5th Game I ever bought on Steam. Now I have 160 games. A few weeks later I bought Arma 2 CO again as a gift for a Friend that then Played DayZ with me and we founded a milsim Group together that's still somewhat standing today
feral reef
- Half Life 1 π
flint lake
I got a much more powerful rig just before I started university in 2013, and I've been around since the Alpha.
feral reef
@finite relic So many younglings π
finite relic
I'm more concerned with the legacy they leave than their current age.
Had ponds in A2
quartz magnet
finite relic
Brb
flint lake
So how about that 2035 Malden, eh?
flint lake
No you see
quartz magnet
as far as the eye can sea
flint lake
Malden itself is an inverted pond.
quartz magnet
i'm waiting for tac ops dlc suggestion thread
so i can request radios and grass blending at distance
π
hearty island
Did they even say what tac-ops dlc will contain?
quartz magnet
yeah, "single player" "ops"
feral reef
""our engine has character/personality"" π
hearty island
But it didn't say much about tac-ops did it?
flint lake
Tanks should be interesting
Even if it's just the reactions of people losing their minds that assets changed from the originally shown concept art.
quartz magnet
just a descriptive sentence, not many details
seemed to imply it's not fully scoped out
i found it strange that they said single player ops instead of coop, for example
hearty island
So Tac-Ops is.... New Singleplayer Missions.. That I won't play anyway... Okey..
The Arma 3 Tac-Ops DLC will deliver new singleplayer scenarios that focus upon challenging, replayable, and authentic military gameplay - making the best use of Arma 3's sandbox terrain, vehicles, and weapons.
making best use of existing assets
flint lake
They've developed some kind of assets for every DLC so far.
It's certainly not going to be Apex-level in terms of new stuff, but I'd be surprised if Tac-Ops is literally just a bunch of scenarios and nothing else.
I could very well be wrong though.
urban sluice
They likely won't make you pay for new scenarios. So likely mechanics/cosmetics for vehicles/uniforms.
flint lake
I wonder how long it will take before it gets ported to a multiplayer environment.
knotty plinth
I thought the same for the campaign @flint lake
flint lake
Because I loathe commanding AI.
hearty island
But we get new game mechanics for free.
urban sluice
B O I
finite relic
Here we go ....
urban sluice
But this is the fight/argument channel right @finite relic ?
finite relic
It doesn't last long though . One whack and they're out for good.
urban sluice
haha
hearty island
What happened. I've got the feeling I've missed some deleted message again
Need to build some Bot that records all messages before they get deleted :x
finite relic
Nothing yet, Spidey senses are tingling
urban sluice
Maybe there should be a #fight_room channel
People go there to fight, people go there to watch.
No ban hammer allowed.
Just keyboard warriors hashing it out.
One key at a time.
knotty plinth
that'd be something
finite relic
If it were a private server, I'd almost support that.
urban sluice
LOL
finite relic
Would have to be hooked up to something like "The Painstation" though
fallow tree
LETS D D D D DUEL
fallow tree
ILL HAVE YOU KNOW WIMMERKID
urban sluice
hahaha
hearty island
That new SQF thingy on stackoverflow is an amazing place to farm reputation. Got about 30 Reputation today. Only need 4 more till I can comment on answers.
alpine robin
Huh
twilit oar
What
humble harbor
how do I know to which direction the smoke of a smoke grenade will move? in vanilla
alpine robin
uhm, in the direction of the wind?
Answers so far are pretty cringy aside from what Dedmen wrote.
humble harbor
yeah but how do I know the direction of the wind π
knotty plinth
hope for the best π
alpine robin
Is this a scripting question?
Because otherwise I'd answer that you could throw a smoke grenade and watch where the smoke blows
Or you know, watch the trees and grass bend in the wind
Or a flag
hearty island
The only other answer to that was the guy that asked the question answering himself
alpine robin
How do I remove all equipment from a unit in SQF?
_unit setUnitLoadout [[],[],[],[],[],[],"","",[],["","","","","",""]];
o_o
hearty island
Well.. It would work
alpine robin
I wish
_unit setUnitLoadout getUnitLoadout "Man"
or
_unit setUnitLoadout []
worked to blow their minds
But it just ignores empty array : (
hearty island
Yey I got a supporter badge and can now comment anything
alpine robin
Tell 'em how wrong they are!
hearty island
+50 reputation today :3. Nice I joined 7 months ago till today I only got 11 reputation
alpine robin
But don't embarrass yourself
default: {
It looks like a sad smiley
alpine robin
Sad code : {
turbid quartz
Took me a second to see that was wrong :/
turbid quartz
As in, I couldn't see the problem for a second π
I always expect there to be a colon there
alpine robin
It's a bug that works because default reports nil and any command with input nil is ignored.
case nil
-> nothing happens
humble harbor
is the winddirection in Arma vanilla static? My google skills did not lead me to a conclusion
urban sluice
is there a stop sign object in arma?
night rover
maybe, there's quite a few road signs
twilit oar
@humble harbor what are you trying to do
humble harbor
I basically want to know where to throw the smokes to get cover for reviving teammates. If it would be static I could just check the compass
hearty island
I'd say go ingame and try it out
twilit oar
Its not static, look at the trees or grass movement to see wind movements
humble harbor
so there is no key for it like in ACE, right?
playing vanilla wasteland but thanks for your suggestions. I will just spam the area with smokes π
quartz magnet
or just place a smoke module
i mean in editor
is the winddirection in Arma vanilla static?
hearty island
or just use the script command to get wind dir
hearty island
If you want to be 100% sure.. Download the wasteland server files. and check if any script calls setWindDir. If not.. same behaviour as in vanilla. Which you can check by just getting the wind direction in editor or something
quartz magnet
doesn't the wind direction change if wind is set to auto?
in editor, i mean
maybe depends on changes to overcast %, though
humble harbor
I'll just pull out my weather app to check the current weather on Tanoa
hearty island
Just look at trees and gras to see where wind goes.. Should theoretically work...
humble harbor
never noticed a particular direction the gras was moving. isnt it just going back in forth?
alright, gonna try that tomorrow then
was in a thunderstorm today on Tanoa. really cinematic feeling
maiden olive
Do the Helicopter Time Trials require Helicopter DLC to play?
sweet axle
Not sure if all of them do (because I don't know how many there are), but the store states that four of them are DLC exclusive
winged harness
whats the range on the type 115 50 cal
I've gotten 450m for a shot so far but I don't think it can go much further
cinder charm
TIL the 115 has a 50cal
lilac storm
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surreal stump
They do, @maiden olive. https://i.imgtc.com/CNuqPjE.jpg Exclusive content is marked with their respective DLC icon.
night rover
isn't 450m weak as fuck for such a high power round?
cinder reef
it does? yes, underbarrel .50 Beowulf
cinder charm
size of round doesn't imply velocity or barrel length guidance
Shooting a 50cal out of a nerf gun isn't going to do much damage, for example
and thne the heavier a bullet the faster it drops
so 450m sounds about right for an underbarrel round
cinder reef
I think you mean, the slower a bullet is, the faster it drops.
cinder charm
yes
pale patio
have pictures of Saul/John's aircraft carrier ever been released? The only mention of it I can find anywhere was in the Black Wasp release notes?
opal nacelle
None that I've seen
finite relic
So, have we "officially" passed the Q1 mark then?
livid ice
^
finite relic
...theres always one...this time 2.... π
cinder charm
Make it 3
I follow a lot of publishers and BI is the second worst at making deadlines
pale patio
in BIs defence, they didn't say Q1
they gave an Estimate of Q1, which is obviously slightly different
cinder charm
But it doesn't bother me because they don't make any promises
merry geode
@maiden olive yes, it does require the helicopters DLC.
finite relic
@pale patio I take it as an estimate as well
pale patio
don't see how it could be taken any other way when it was expressly labelled "ETA Q1" in the roadmap π
finite relic
lol
versed plank
dont cry, just bye
feral reef
Something must be pretty wrong in your head...
versed plank
dont make me laugh
finite relic
and I almost had a screenshot of that....
raven chasm
Users can not permadelete those messages, Admins can roll them back IIRC...
For ovious reasons...
green crescent
admins can't undelete messages yeah
unless there's an utility bot that does it
don't think there are any bots here tho
feral reef
I see some in here
green crescent
if there are then they don't have separate roles and i ain't scrolling through the list to find them
feral reef
I unlocked my scrollwheel, gave it a push, seen min. 4 =}
finite relic
The point is, We dont need a bot for that. It was seen.
latent echo
any pistol only servers out there?
deft bone
Is there a BI variant of Valve Time ?
Valve time:
Some weekend in June
Actual time:
June 45, 2016
π
fervent jolt
I would like to see Jets in Q1 but then again ... I'd rrather have them work on it untill they feel comfortable with releasing it ...
pale patio
since Q1 has gone, I think we can firmly say that it won't happen π
current stated release date is May
"Fight in the sky with brand new Air-Superiority jets and use advanced targeting systems to shoot down the enemy in the Arma 3 Jets DLC (est. release date: May 2017)."
finite relic
I dont mind, June is when some of my free time returns anyway.
Actually, no, I dont. The folks in #arma3_model should though.
Patience is the key
hearty island
And there it is again. The need for a backup Bot... writes onto todolist
Okey. Got it. It's now right between 64Bit Arma Server Monitor and finishing Intercept
mild ravine
@alpine robin You said you don't use triggers. What if a vehicle needs to be in a certain area so that a animation (e.g. a gate open animation) will triggered? What do you use then?
rugged escarp
Can someone point me to dev post where they explained what was wrong with VON broadcasting and how they fixed it? Need it as proof to make a server admin afraid of performance issues to enable VON
I've tried to find it with no luck
hearty island
A loop of CBA_fnc_waitAndExecute. That at each execution checks the distance and velocity of the vehicle and then schedules the next run to be at the minimal time the vehicle may need from his location to the gate.
pale patio
ugh, I had no end of trouble with bar gates opening by triggers - AI just would not drive through when the gate opened, they'd back up and drive around the checkpoint
feral reef
Trigger...
pale patio
the idea was that the vehicle had a hold waypoint just in front of the gate so it would stop, the trigger with a timer would fire and open the gate after X seconds and let the vehicle move to it's next waypoint. It's probably trivial to do properly but I never got it working.
it was partly an exercise in avoiding SQF, which obviously failed
mild ravine
@urban sluice well it works for me with Triggers but if commy2 don't use them I'm excited what he is using instead
feral reef
inArea
I can't think of any reason, why to use "Triggers"
check #arma3_scripting We had that Convo yesterday.
mild ravine
ah thx @feral reef
pale patio
well Triggers are the basic way to do these things in the editor, they are basically advertised for this use and are what newbies will reasonably choose. There's not a scripting guide built in to the editor (well not really).]
feral reef
Doesn't make it better.
pale patio
no, but I think you're missing my point
feral reef
No, i don't.
I didn't asked you why YOU use Trigger. I say: "I can't think of any reason, why to use "Triggers"". Now that you know the inArea command.
pale patio
in my case I was approaching the then newly released Eden editor and attempting to create a decent mission using only the editor UI (i.e. no scripting), call it an experiment.
@feral reef I thought you were criticising people for using triggers, I was merely pointing out that most people will in the beginning use only what's available to them in the editor
feral reef
I was not critising anyone ^^
Quoting myself again: :P
I can't think of any reason, why to use "Triggers"```well you also said "Trigger..." that ... might as well be a π emoticon
anyway, I accept that it wasn't your intention to criticise
fair dock
new terrain releases, see #production_releases
hearty island
https://dev.arma3.com/post/sitrep-00190 woop woop
onyx wigeon
Dev-Branch Soonβ’
proud pollen
:D
flint lake
Can't wait to get my grubby mitts on the new aircraft.
proud pollen
And that surprise. :)
pale patio
the environmental audio for altis/stratis has me excited, even though it's likely to be months before it comes to linux :/
it made such an impact in Tanoa
nimble mantle
Would you guys like a realistic QRF/ Guard duty scenarios?
acoustic crow
I want to find a solid Operation Gothic scenario.
QRF would be fun. Guard duty would require a lot of OPFOR players
native charm
Wrong channel, try #multiplayer_events
night rover
what is QRF?
hearty island
Quick Reaction Force is what google tells me
night rover
oh, pretend military nonsense, got it
humble harbor
Well it is a military sandbox shooter game
humble harbor
I dont know how you would implement QRF in this game though. Those forces are on standby. Do you wait for an hour ingame doing role play stuff?
urban sluice
AI troops that can be taken over i reckon
hallow flume
My unit runs transport choppers with the crew chiefs acting as pararescue QRF. It gives those guys something to do all the time π
cinder charm
Yeah there's a few ways we've tackled this before
In one of my previous units the QRF was special forces so they would do almost all of the recon work for the grunts
so they're constantly occupied with recon
but if shit gets hairy it only takes them a few minutes to support the grunts
Another way we did it was a bit more messy but the ground transport crew (driver, navigator, turret) would act as a mobile QRF as well as transport
usually one of the crew being a medic
native charm
I think it's more people find it hilarious people are willing to stand by for hour(s) in case mythical "shit" goes down instead of just playing mission where everyone has something to do.
cinder charm
I agree it completely defeats the purpose of a video game if people are standing around, but like I said you don't have to do it that way.
Your QRF can always be occupied and still function as QRF
fervent jolt
Being creative like that is not everyones thing ...
Having anyone purely dedicated to stand by as CAS, QRF or simmilar things almost exclusively works if you use them as well. Because nobody is going to stand by at base for a whole mission only to be left out of the action
So you have to make sure they get their share of the action ... which can lead to weird situations for the boots on the ground sometimes ...
I enjoy arma most when its infantry centric ... thats what it does best ...
cinder reef
same
candid flower
hi everyone ! Is it the official BIS discord ?
green crescent
ionno
raven chasm
Yes it is
green crescent
raven chasm
BIS as in BIStudio
candid flower
ok thx
pale patio
not BI Simulations
onyx wigeon
And I believe BI is trying to lose the "Studio" from their name.
raven chasm
Still confuses the shit,
As soon as someone says to me I got an email from BI the question directly is which one...
onyx wigeon
yeah, and still people think they are the same company, or have anything in common. (except a similar name and some old parts of the engine of course)
fossil ermine
in short
BI - Bohemia Interactive (studio)
BIS - Bohemia Interactive Simulation
night rover
where does bohemian rhapsody fit in to all this