Why is the comma inserted after the name?
#bibliography("bib.yaml")
#let vgl(entry) = {
return [(vgl. #cite(entry, form: "author") #cite(entry, form: "year"))]
}
#vgl(<harry>)
// Output: (vgl. J. K. Rowling, 2003)
#Superfluous comma
formal lake
wintry patio
Adjacent citations are merged together. This is really a misuse of cite, and the correct way would be to pick a citation style that already looks like what you want (or edit the CSL).
But @tranquil obsidian may want to weigh in
formal lake
Thanks! What if my regular citation style is (Author Year) and I explicitly want (vgl. Author Year) in the Text?
wintry patio
Thanks! What if my regular citation style is (Author Year) and I explicitly want...
You can set the citation style in the cite call
formal lake
So, can I define my own style, e.g. "vgl" in a CSL and use #cite(<harry>, form="vgl")?
wintry patio
Arguably it's a bit clunky that customization has to happen in CSL, but it is what it is.
wintry patio
So, can I define my own style, e.g. "vgl" in a CSL and use `#cite(<harry>, form=...
Yes
formal lake
Good to know, thanks. It might make sense to not only have supplement (which is basically a suffix) but also something like prefix
tranquil obsidian
Adjacent citations are merged together. This is really a misuse of cite, and the...
agreed
formal lake
Also, stating in the docs that the possible form values are defined in the CSL might be helpful, though it might seem obvious to some people.
tranquil obsidian
So, can I define my own style, e.g. "vgl" in a CSL and use `#cite(<harry>, form=...
The form isn't defined in the CSL actually
CSL doesn't really have a concept that maps 1-1 on this
The forms are built into hayagriva, our CSL processor
formal lake
Huh, then what would be the most idiomatic solution for my use case?
tranquil obsidian
I think maybe the terms form and style are intermingled here?
You can define your own CSL style and do #set cite(style: "mystyle.csl")
formal lake
Sorry for mixing up the terms. However, the point still stands: How can I have a regular #cite which outputs (Author Year) and a nice way to get (vgl. Author Year)?
wintry patio
By doing what was described in the last message
formal lake
But @tranquil obsidian just wrote that form is not defined in the CSL? I'm confused
wintry patio
The default form is what the CSL spits out
What you want to change is the style, not the form
(I didn't notice that you wrote form earlier)
formal lake
I still don't see how I can have both version of citation in one CSL file (since form is apparently not customizable) and use them convienently in the text
wintry patio
You can't have them both in one CSL file. You would use two different ones
formal lake
So everytime I want vgl. in my text I have to switch the entire cite style?
next pike
You could also let vgl(..args) = [vgl. #cite(..args)]
wintry patio
Well, it would be as easy as #let citev = cite.with(style: "vgl.csl")
wintry patio
You could also `let vgl(..args) = [vgl. #cite(..args)]`
That wouldn't work because of parentheses
next pike
oh, well then yeah I guess
wintry patio
(I meant to add an extra letter at the end)
formal lake
Well, it would be as easy as `#let citev = cite.with(style: "vgl.csl")`
Thanks, that would kind of work. I'm still surprised that I actually have to maintain two CSL files for such a seemingly insignificant requirement.
wintry patio
Thanks, that would kind of work. I'm still surprised that I actually have to mai...
Like I said, it's clunky right now. But it'll almost definitely improve over time
I can't type today
formal lake
Alright. Thank you very much everyone 🙂
(The automatic comma between adjacent cites still bugs me for some reason)
If I want a comma, I write a comma
wintry patio
(The automatic comma between adjacent cites still bugs me for some reason)
This is also controlled by the CSL
formal lake
Ooh, that is interesting!
wintry patio
Its to be able to merge them like [1-3, 6, 9] etc