Wind in arena

[tawny sable]

I'm just a newbie but no wind in arena? Seriously? Couldn't just do a sort of neutral wind that runs parallel to the line of skrimmage? That way it's fair, since random was clearly shot down at the board meeting.

Wind management is a key aspect of these games. Without it, we're just being silly here.

[coarse crescent]

Agreed. It just turns it into a brawl and makes heavies and ships like the kobukson a lot stronger than they are in open world.

[gray tusk]

I like wind not being in arena. Makes more sense in open world since you have time to approach strategically... but being locked in a little arena field you only really have one way to the fight anyway.

[pliant mirage]

It's a different kind of strategy

[dusty jetty]

Still need the proper effects. THE immersion is age of sail, not iron clads or boats with props and the sails are optional lol

[hybrid lily]

The problem with wind in arena is that, unless you make it change direction absurdly fast, one side is always going to enter combat with a wind advantage that can easily decide the outcome of the battle. While a smidge less arcadey, it doesn't fit the "fair fight" thing that Arena is going for

[dusty jetty]

Could the code allow the game to notice the start locations and place neutral wind angles? The few arena games I played seemed to have fairly dedicated start points.

[hybrid lily]

The neutral wind angle would probably need to be static for the entire match in that case

[tawny sable]

Wind doesn't change that frequently in open world. Say players are starting on SW and NE sides. Have wind go either SE or NW w/ a 50/50 chance. Now it's fair.

[slow otter]

well then need to chance arena completly

lets say its best of 3 rounds

first round wind for team A second wind for team B
third is random

then you have 3 rounds to get your win

[pliant mirage]

or and hear me out, its fine as is and allows for players to adjust their strategy to a 0 wind vector

what is the value add to this for player base activity ? to code it in there must be a tip off right?

[hybrid lily]

it's not fair if you're on the side that gets no wind

[hybrid lily]

I don't think making each match 3x longer is a solution tbh

especially when the teams can be so imbalanced as it is

imagine you get into one of those matches where your team has two IV-rates and two V-rates while the other team has three IV-rates and only one V-rate. Now you're stuck with them for three rounds before you get any reward. It would lengthen queue times for everyone too

[tawny sable]

This is actually a great solution

Ranked: best of 3
Unranked: weaker side gets slightly favorable wind

Or, and this is insane but hear me out: both sides get personal wind they perceive as favorable

[dusty jetty]

My take is thus, wind in some balanced form needs to be in arena. Otherwise we are playing world of warships with sails. Just the engine is hidden lol

[hybrid lily]

If both sides have their own wind then the combat will break....

as an example, how are you supposed to catch an enemy that, on your end, is sailing directly into the wind...

[gray tusk]

Imo wind is primarily pursuit mechanic for pvp... pursuit has no place in Arena, where PvP is not optional, so I dont think a pursuit mechanic has a place.

I really dont wanna spend 10 minutes in arena chasing siege ships running into the wind the whole time 😂 I wanna fight