mighty surge
In my opinion Pirate faction in its current state gives nothing really special to the pirate players, and also takes away Peace Flag. This makes Pirate faction guild have a hard time recruiting new players.
An easy solution is to buff the Pirate Faction Flag to give more buff to exp/loot. 20% is also available for military factions, so why would you want to be a Pirate then?
Pirate tokens are a nice to have from dailies, but I dont think its enough
Saying all this as a Pirate
lament tartan
Pirate is easy mode in every sense other than port defenses
gilded dagger
I agree with Tremec do you want a brand new ship every day too?
latent condor
Pirate is easy mode in every sense other than port defenses
Easy with all factions, neutrals and other pirate seing you red ?
umbral fractal
In my opinion Pirate faction in its current state gives nothing really special t...
To grind battle marks. It's not meant to be easy to be a pirate, because you're trading more risk for more rewards. It's purposely designed that way, which makes sense.
mighty surge
Yes but whats the more rewards?
Other factions have access to the same bonuses dont they? 20% loot and exp
Neutrals have acces to the Pirate AND Peace flag
Right now there's no more rewards other than Pirate Tokens from dailies, and you take more risk obviously
umbral fractal
Yes but whats the more rewards?
You gain battle marks from sinking other player ships. Pretty sure other factions don't have that. As well as being able to steal a base 10% of their gold during boarding. Increased to 15% with an upgrade.
At the end of the day, if you're not willing to have pvp always on and don't love pvp, pirate isn't the faction for you.
mighty surge
The battle mark stuff is only for daily quests, not for every individual sinkings. I dont think that the 10% gold capture is a thing, I have a guildie who board many many people but he only gets gold with the upgrade.
Edit: the battle mark gain is negligible, you better off spamming arena tho
The whole point that im trying to say is Pirate faction gives barely any extras, while REMOVING the option to peace flag. This makes so new players arent really attracted to the pirate faction, and leaves pirate guilds have a hard time recruiting
Of course pirate faction is mainly pvp. But you can have pvp in military factions as well. You just grind your whole day in peace flag, farming for a ship or weapons, and when youre done, you go and have some pvp. There's no risk in that. This is why new players are applying to military factions, and again, this leaves pirate faction fall behind in numbers.
umbral fractal
The battle mark stuff is only for daily quests, not for every individual sinking...
Pretty sure you get marks for each individual sinking, and 10% is based on the current amount of gold that they have that's not in chests on them. Of course most players aren't interested in playing pvp all the time. So naturally you don't get as many recruits, since it's a harsh way to play as I said.
mighty surge
Can you confirm these things tho? Ive been playing as a pirate for weeks and I don't think its like that way. Im 99% sure you dont steal money. The upgrade makes it that if you win a boarding you steal 5%, and if you lose it you lose the gold. So if the 10% thing exist, and I lose a boarding without the upgrade, i should lose 10%, but im pretty sure I dont
Battle Marks are also no dropped, but only looted from boarding. Maybe your talking about Black Marks? But that gives you nothing extra.
I get your point that its harsh and hard to get into, but that is exactly why im saying that the pirate faction should recieve some buffs that makes it more appealing. Lets say if the Pirate Faction flag would give 30% exp and loot instead of the 20%, which by the way available for neutrals in the form of black flag, maybe more people would take the risk and join Pirates
mighty surge
I agree with Tremec do you want a brand new ship every day too?
Could you explain what is the easy mode?
umbral fractal
Can you confirm these things tho? Ive been playing as a pirate for weeks and I d...
I mean you win 10% of their gold base if you managed to board them successfully. I don't think there's a penalty for losing as you already are sinking and lose stuff in your hold. The pirate faction isn't supposed to have as many players as the other 3 military factions, since they're only for hardcore pvp players. Which also makes thematic sense since pirates aren't as numerous as the military.
mighty surge
10% is a lot, if this was a thing i should be rich by now. Im still pretty sure its not a thing.
'The pirate faction isn't supposed to have as many players'
This will eventually make Pirate Faction unplayable and uncompetetive agains military factions
I get that most people hate pirates and pirate faction, but at the end of the day its a game, it should have some kind of balance
oak forge
I mean you win 10% of their gold base if you managed to board them successfully....
Where you guys getting this crazy 10% gold steal as a pirate idea from? this is the only way to steal gold in the game and everyone has access too it not just pirates.
umbral fractal
Where you guys getting this crazy 10% gold steal as a pirate idea from? this is ...
Hmm maybe I'm wrong then. I heard that was being said. So only tokens and marks from sinking then, which is still very good.
umbral fractal
10% is a lot, if this was a thing i should be rich by now. Im still pretty sure ...
Pirate faction is not unplayable. Again, pirate faction is good for solo guilds that want to fight everyone. If you want to make alliances with other guilds to take on ports switch to military then. No one is forcing you to play pirates if you don't like it.
mighty surge
Tokens and marks are good, dont get me wrong. But its not enough. Here's why:
So this is not really unique and definitely not that huge extra for pirates
mighty surge
Pirate faction is not unplayable. Again, pirate faction is good for solo guilds ...
Im not talking about it being unplayable. But why should it stay like this? Pirate faction should be able to compete in Port Battles and larger scale PVP agains any military factions. But in its current state the numbers are just not there. Why should we not to be able and take port and compete as pirates? We like being pirates.
Again, the whole point is to make it attract more NEW players by introducing more extras for the more risk, because right now the extras are negligible
umbral fractal
Im not talking about it being unplayable. But why should it stay like this? Pira...
You can take ports, but if you think you can get as many ports as the other military factions, then you're being unrealistic. You can also act as a mercenary guild and ally with a military guild for a port battle, which military guilds can't do outside of their own faction. Getting resources from events don't count because they're events. Pretty sure you earn way more tokens than regular players since they need hit pirate barons, while you can attack any ship for it.
mighty surge
Still, why would a new player join pirates? Because he/she enjoys pvp? You can do that in military as well without all day risk. For pirate tokens? You just go and farm barons in peace flag. For Battle Marks? You just farm Arena without any risk.
umbral fractal
- Yes but you can attack Pirate Barons in a peace flag, so you basically just fa...
The idea is that you can do all of that in the open world, and gain tokens, marks and loot from other players' hold too all at once. Which other factions can't do. But this comes at the expense of risk of sinking, which is fair. And it's easier in a way to complete the open world pvp daily quests too as you're in pvp mode all the time.
mighty surge
Yes but all this make nothing in difference because at the end of the day these materials (marks, tokens) can be accessed by anyone in peace flag. The whole post is about attracting new players into the pirate faction. So if what youre saying is the only bonuses for pirates, and these can be easily done as well in military factions (under peace flag), why would a newbie join pirates, right? This is what im trying to tell, we need some extra way, mechanic or buff to get more people into pirating
@gilded dagger, I'd love to hear your opinion and arguments instead of just putting negative reactions to everything, that wont get us anywhere
gilded dagger
Not gonna read that wall of text. You get Coins all pirates can join each other port battles. Let alone that unique coin. No other faction get more special treatment then pirates.
If you want that 10% or whatever with that pirate flag. Spanish should get 30% gold when sinking ships to make it fair. (This is a joke btw)
Just the thought behind you wanting more and not buffing other nations is outrageous. You just want the game to be easier and its ridiculously unjust and make little to no sense.
mighty surge
You completely missed the point. It is all about getting more player into the pirate faction, because its a fact that we have way less people than any other faction
You could achieve it by integrating new ways for pirate to play or simply buffing something
What and why would you buff other nations? They already have a peace flag so that is literally the easy mode that youre talking about
Again, cuz it does not seem to go over: new players are not interested as much in the pirate faction as in any other, and this can lead to issues in the long run
We barely have any recruits as one of the biggest pirate guild
We had people joining us then leaving after a few hours because they realized its not worth it because they lose access to peace flag and barely get any extra bonuses
umbral fractal
You completely missed the point. It is all about getting more player into the pi...
Even if you buff the rewards, you will never get as many players as the other military factions since hardcore pvp players are rare. Just accept that. The devs are thinking of reworking factions in the future anyways, so just wait until then.
honest flame
Not gonna read that wall of text. You get Coins all pirates can join each other ...
no you can't join defence port battles as a pirates from other pirate guild
lament tartan
Pirates can only join attacking side, as I said the only downside to pirate right at the top is defense of ports.
Pirates don’t have rep issues, they don’t have guild requirements, easy access to best guns, on na1 nobody sails peace flags everywhere it’s not worth the loot loss.
Now im also not a trader so pirates not having access to the market may suck but then again, you’re a pirate… if you want to trade.. be a trade union instead…
tired trellis
Remember pirate can rob more stuffs, and pirate already have too much power, compared to trade union that have to pay protection fees etc and cannot pvp freely.
as other said, pirate is good already. it's trade union atm that is lacking as hell
plucky ocean
As someone who played pirate for a few days there was one major problem I had. They cannot trade at FREE PORTS like St Jean. I understand not being able to trade at faction controlled ports, but I feel that free ports should not be restricted.