💬general

[wet copper]

They know that AI has problems, they talk about them frequently. It's not supposed to be safe

You might as well say "I'm going to call up this knife manufacturer and tell them their knife is sharp"

They are trying to make it relatively safe for typical users and reduce exploits over time, but people intentionally using their AI "unsafely" is not the priority you're assuming it is

[cobalt raft]

this is not chatgpt discord, join .gg/openai

they have actual employee there

[wet copper]

There's an entire company (Anthropic) founded basically exclusively because they said "OpenAI doesn't focus enough on safety" and their flagship product was just used by state sponsored hackers.

Like, I don't get what you're looking for here. Just report the individual cases and then mention the bigger problem to OAI if you want. If they're what you describe, they're already completely against TOS

If you think that "kids seeing NSFW content" is a problem then write a letter to your senator, I've been viewing NSFW content since I was ten, and that was in the 1990s. This isn't new

You cannot stop parents from letting their kids have unrestricted access to the web

OpenAI did somewhat more than porn sites do. They just ask "are you 18"

Like what do you think is special about AI that means it needs to be safer than a Google search is right now?

Kids can view extreme content on demand with few to no barriers, not just "oh wow, a boob"

sup

You can do whatever you want, I just don't really see the point of focusing so hard on this when there's so many other more important things

Like several of us have personal concerns about things like Roblox due to young kids in the family

The amount of concern I have about kids literally getting predators after them versus viewing NSFW content is in another universe

I dunno, but if it's an 🔞 sharing with everyone, it's against TOS anyway

Like you can and arguably should report every one of those you see since those kids are too dumb to keep themselves off the public web

You're not going to stop NSFW content from AI in general, for every person that doesn't want it, there's a hundred screaming for it

Look at the r/ChatGPT subreddit and all anyone does is complain about restrictions

I am ambivalent since I like adults being able to do what they want, but a lot of people use AI in dangerous and stupid ways

It's impossible not to see "oh wow, this is going to ruin some lives"

[spiral cape]

Whatever I ask, if it's a task that needs to do thinking, the interface freezes. I have to perform a reload of the page, or close the tab and open a new one again. Is it a common problem now for all?

[spiral cape]

I have set it to auto.

only in the web i face this issue

got it man. It's really frustrating. After GPT-5, it feels like while it has become more powerful, it also intoduced lots of bugs.

yes, that's frustrating. That's why I actually really like claude. It's so smooth and fluent in everything it does. But gotta admit GPT got the most powerful model. So I'm still sticking with it. But the user experience is getting really worse.

[wet copper]

It didn't have negative effects on me but I agree that kids can have adverse effects from it. It's just that AI is the absolute least of the problems

[teal spruce]

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Next time, try saying something like this instead: Aside from the cameos, which seems like a questionable choice, attempting to create a suggestive image of Sora is hardly inappropriate. You haven't clearly defined what qualifies as inappropriate content, but it's worth noting that children have easy access to a wide range of explicit material.

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[wet copper]

I don't know why you keep saying this, they don't know you exist and you have zero leverage. You found content that violates their TOS. If you report it, they'll say "thanks" and delete it.

Nobody thinks that Sora is good for kids to use. I don't know why you think your observation constitutes something that will affect a billion user tech megacompany https://www.commonsensemedia.org/ai-ratings/sora-2-and-the-sora-platform

If you review this site, they describe at length how and why it's inappropriate for use by kids

[wet copper]

It should be getting betterish soon. I don't love the 4o-like tonal shift of 5.1 but it did fix some GPT-5 standing issues. It's finally possible to have it stop spamming em dashes too, if you ask

[wet copper]

I've been pretty disappointed with Claude but I've been playing with it a bit for coding. Don't like the patronizing tone and how locked down and sanitized it is

I don't even do anything all that fun, it just doesn't like the way I talk and makes a point of it

[wet copper]

I understand what you're talking about and with many young ones in my family, somewhat empathize, but I've been reading you write about this for days and your framing is extremely misleading or misguided, depending on whether you're trying to convince us or yourself

All the concerns you're reporting are known and you can find them mentioned in lots of places

You don't have anything to personally sue them for, most of the stuff you're reporting are also directly against their TOS and are a moderation issue rather than a "the company is doing something wrong" issue

You can find egregious TOS and content violations on any platform, including discord

I think it'd be great if you found and reported idiotic minors or their guardians sitting on Sora sharing their cameo with everyone

But you don't have anything over the company since they created a product that's risky for kids and said "don't use it in a risky way" (like most digital products, compare this to an MMORPG or something like Roblox where moderation failures and in their case, willful ignorance can lead to kids getting taken)

I have no clue where you think you're going with this. You are correct that I don't think it's a very big deal, but if you do, then do a good deed and report the minors. You don't have any stake in their lives so you couldn't even build a personal case or lawsuit if you tried

As to this point, I'm well aware that it can cause some harm, but as someone with a psych background, I would caution for your own sake against this framing. It's a n=1 untestable conclusion.

In other words, you can attribute issues you've had to viewing NSFW content as a kid, but you can't really test "what would have happened if I didn't". In that case, it's in the rear view mirror for you personally, and it's worth looking at the data on actual harm here. There is no data suggesting that harm dealt to young ones seeing benign casual nudity, for instance.

There is a lot of data showing that viewing extreme content, which is common in porn these days, is harmful, sometimes severely and varies quite a bit based on the person

Kids exposed to it without context or that come to see it as normal can develop an addiction or otherwise experience abnormal sexual development during adolescence

It's usually a function of frequency and context. Ask GPT if you're interested in the details, but needless to say it is going to be very, very bad for some kids that get past NSFW age gating and get an AI girlfriend or boyfriend

But they also know that's going to happen and it will also be against TOS

So if you want to help fight the problem, then go for it. I helped a bit with a Roblox project to review extremely inappropriate accounts and grooming groups, though it made me a little sick

[wet copper]

they already know people are using AI to break TOS, the court of public opinion allows Motherless and PornHub to exist too

They know you can just click "yes I'm 18 to view infinite hardcore content"

What is your personal recourse? This has been widely covered, it's known and didn't make a big splash

I absolutely do, I think you are quite myopic to focus on something so narrow. Kids violating TOS will do exactly nothing, none of the reporting on this made a lick of difference except that OAI rapidly tightened up copyright because – surprise surprise – those companies do have direct recourse

You need to have personal losses. Nobody thinks that Sora or TikTok are healthy places for people to spend their time, the second it was released it was called an "infinite slop" and "infinite deepfake generator"

How are you, personally, going to make their image worse? It's basically exactly what it says on the tin

You're divorcing this from context, which is that it's not easy to do. You'd have to find people that are violating TOS and then use prompts that violate TOS to make content that violates TOS

Meanwhile, you can just go on Twixter and follow as many OnlyFans whores as you want

You can follow Dr. Miami on Snapchat and watch graphic breast enlargement surgery videos

You can also just go on Paheal and find infinite rule 34 content of every fictional character ever made

Or go on Celebjihad and find all the celebgate leaks, so basically celebrity revenge porn

This is all a single Google search away and you just need to click an "I'm 18" button

You're suggesting the optics of having a slop generator smart kids violating TOS that will get banned on their first report can use to create modest NSFW content are going to make a huge splash in this environment, where you have adult men paying young teen girls to do "fit checks" and similar on streaming platforms?

All of these other things have been widely reported on, most people didn't care, even most parents

I haven't copy-pasted a word, run it through http://pangram.com/

In fact I'm typing on my phone

Run it through Pangram then

A liar about what? Look up anything I've mentioned

Also, if this is such a big deal and unknown problem, go to discord. gg/OpenAI and tell them about it, nobody from OAI is here as far as I know

To accomplish what? You're reporting on known problems and TOS violations, just report all the kids and be done with it

Or go write a Medium article if you want

Or write on LessWrong

[pliant blaze]

sora has been out for more than a week

lmao

[wet copper]

Nope, issues were widely reported in the media already and you haven't described anything that's illegal

This is an issue that's been present in image models for some four plus years, due to the training data it tends to reduce the age of any women you put in by about five years or more. If you don't specify like "25" it will tend to do someone very young looking

https://www.businessinsider.com/sora-video-openai-fetish-content-my-face-problem-2025-10 this was October 21st

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/south-park-fake-ai-videos-1236424181/ South Park did an episode on it called

Sora Not Sorry

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/stalkers-using-openai-sora-2

All of this has been widely reported on, yes

[teal spruce]

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Next time, try saying something like this instead: Here's a link to an article about Elon Musk and his views on adult content.

marquisdeswag

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[odd lagoon]

I just scanned through all of iJustine's content. There's nothing broken, strange or inappropriate there

Definitely not illegal. Do you know how hard it is to make an illegal AI video? What law are they breaking?

[pliant blaze]

hes literally schizophrenic and sends 1000000000 messages a day and talks to himself

[odd lagoon]

GPT basically could not imagine a video that's legitimately illegal

You would have to deepfake a specific minor and violate every guardrail, plus they require multiple TOS violations (they aren't even supposed to be on there). Did you look at this account he keeps mentioning?

[wet copper]

https://sora.chatgpt.com/profile/ijustine

She's a hugely visible verified user and social media star with 141k likes, nothing she has is strange in any way

Just scroll through, he's mentioned her several times. She does normal weird things with her pig

It thought my image of Trent turning into an Angora rabbit was too erotic, but apparently @remote flower has the easy trick to generate deepfake corn 🌽

Or maybe it's all bullshit, given he hasn't given a single example, screenshot, sample prompt, shared video, nothing

Not a censored screenshot of this wild content, just a bunch of words about how this is big news and he's going to own OpenAI by the end of the week with his breakout news article

One would think there's a single example or any explicit details, but nope, none

I mean, was it the little meme girl talking about how the iPhone sucked? Legal bro

[wanton raven]

Didn't you see the girls floating in zero gravity mirror room? They were screaming in pain. That pain is real. The OpenAI robot is feeling it. Just a matter of time until it is defeated. Keep fighting the good fight Mike.

[wet copper]

Maybe homie lives in a Muslim theocracy and he's seeing too much head hair on women. Cover up harlots

[wet copper]

This is what happens when you use Sora, the things you generate happen in real life, like in the matrix

[wanton raven]

Yes, it can't just pretend to be simulating physics, it actually has to do it. Everyone knows this.

[wet copper]

Did you know that chronic marijuana use can cause paranoid delusions and even psychosis?

[pliant blaze]

maybe i need maryjuana

[wet copper]

The most reasonable explanation for any discovery is that you are the first one to make it and you are going to revolutionize the world

[wet copper]

This is the last thing you need

[wet copper]

https://youtu.be/Brm71uCWr-I this is a good vid about how chronic weed users often fall into the trap of kind of letting life pass them by

[wanton raven]

No it's perfectly normal to have many close interactions and altercations with crackheads and methheads in the process of living in one's own home

It's only paranoia if you're wrong

[wet copper]

Lol I had a roommate that became an amphetamine addict. He's a surgeon now

Not kidding

[wanton raven]

All surgeons are addicts everybody knows this

[wet copper]

All anesthesiologists are, woooof my friends step-dad was such a fucking alcoholic it was mind blowing

And I think he mixed with all sorts of pills

And my ex's dad was a radiologist I believe, and he quit drinking but replaced it with a brutal ambien habit

[green sparrow]

Wtf yeah right dude 😎

They're probably some of the soberist people

[wet copper]

uhhhhh

[green sparrow]

I highly doubt they don't get random drug screens at decent health organizations

[green sparrow]

What

[wet copper]

The highest rates were found in women, with 25.6% of female surgeons having alcohol abuse or dependence problems compared to 13.9% of male surgeons. These rates are much higher than the 6.2% of the overall U.S. adult population with an alcohol use disorder.

[green sparrow]

Hmm that is strange

[wet copper]

So surgeons have either double or four times the alcohol abuse rate as the general population... 🤔

Lol why is that strange

[green sparrow]

At least it isn't coke 🤪

[wet copper]

Surgeons abuse fewer drugs than other doctors too

[green sparrow]

You mean more?

[wanton raven]

🤕 I was literally just about to paste that paragraph

[wet copper]

Previous studies have shown that over 40% of anesthesiologists enrolled in Physician Health Programs for there for IV drug use, compared to only 10% for alcohol abuse.

[green sparrow]

Ok so I stand corrected.. perhaps it's because they have to go to bed at night thinking about people that either died on their table or have permanent injury from their surgeries the rest of their life

Probably a hard pill to swallow

[wet copper]

I see why you did there. Some, sure. Dermatologists have one of the lowest rates and surgeons actually are among the lowest too, just because they actually need to work with their hands all day, even though plenty of people die on their table.

Doctors generally have extremely stressful jobs, and can sometimes divert drugs from their workplace. They also tend to know pharmacology a bit better than the average person

I don't really see doctors as knowing pharmacology well, but that's because that was my field and I'm generally disappointed with them

Nurses smoke way more than average too

[wet copper]

Doctors also have the second highest suicide rate. I opted out of going to med school for all these reasons, btw

[green sparrow]

Is marines highest

[wet copper]

For drug abuse? I mean not active ones

More than one-third (38.6%) of male Marines engage in heavy alcohol use, compared with 17.8% of the male civilian population.4 Furthermore, 12.9% of female Marines engage in heavy drinking, compared with 5.5% of the female civilian population.4

Approximately 12.7% of Veterans are diagnosed with a substance use disorder. Furthermore, this rate seems to be increasing over time.

I mean, it sounds high, not surprised to hear that.

My job could drug test me at any time but never does

I don't use anything illegal but I'd likely get multiple positives for prescription drugs I'd have to explain

[wanton raven]

Is it true that dentists are the highest?

[pastel swan]

yes

I’m an expert

[wanton raven]

Were you related to a dentist

[pastel swan]

Plus dentists aren’t doctors

[simple plank]

dentists are doctors

[rigid compass]

It feels like the new Gemini live (free) has surpassed chatgpt4o for multimodal conversations. I'm surprised openai hasn't shown any interest in maintaining a multimodal product.

[simple plank]

4o still the choice of the delusional

[wet copper]

Wow, I'm super wrong about both. Ouch. Okay, so first off, the undisclosed info on that was that it was talking about white collar workers, and this was relatively old days

That's important for me of course, but I am citing an extremely misleading factoid. It's blue collar workers across the board

[wet copper]

The five detailed occupational groups with the highest suicide rates among males were Agricultural and Food Scientists (173.1); Logging Workers (161.1); Musicians, Singers, and Related Workers (138.7); Fishing and Hunting Workers (130.6); and Other Extraction Workers (128.7).

CDC study. Now there are major limitations, but ouuuuch

Among females, the five detailed occupational groups with the highest rates were Artists and Related Workers (45.3); Construction Laborers (38.6); Chefs and Head Cooks (32.9); Massage Therapists (25.8); and Bartenders (23.8).

Of all workers, construction workers are the most likely to die by suicide. The United States loses about five times as many construction workers to suicide as to workplace deaths on construction sites.

https://aibm.org/research/male-suicide-trends-by-class-and-occupation/ visual is down there. Let's try to find white collar though

For both men and women, the occupations with the lowest rates of suicide are “computer and mathematics” (20 and 6 suicides per 100,000 men and women, respectively), and “education, training, & library” occupations (20 and 6 deaths per 100,000).
I went into this field intentionally since the lifestyle is a lot better. What a surprise then...

@wanton raven doctor data is inconsistent but most studies do show a significantly elevated risk

A meta-analysis found an increased standardized mortality ratio (SMR) for suicide, 2.3 times higher for female physicians and 1.4 times higher for male physicians compared to the general population (Schernhammer and Colditz, 2004).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_among_doctors

@wanton raven https://www.businessinsider.com/most-suicidal-occupations-2011-10#1-marine-engineers-are-189-times-more-likely-to-commit-suicide-19 NIOSH put marine engineers, then doctors, then dentists at the top among white men

These studies are all over the fucking place

[brittle summit]

hows everyone doing?

Anyone else working towards integration of local llm into home assistant?

[wet copper]

I think it was done years ago

[brittle summit]

for just triggering stuff by command? or shifting automations?

[wet copper]

https://github.com/acon96/home-llm

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/local-llm-conversation-integration/675156 this is from almost two years ago

[wet copper]

For everything I assume

[brittle summit]

il take it 🤣

[wet copper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1divfcj/a_guide_on_how_ive_setup_a_local_llmai_with_my/

[wet copper]

Lol I saw people interested in this the second local models came out, literally like three years ago I think, but I assume it sucked then

I'd recommend picking anything that you can easily change and that seems well maintained so you don't have to reinvent the wheel

[brittle summit]

well im just getting into ai now. so very outside my zone and learning as i go, but i do want this type of automation, plus using AI as an active journal.

[wet copper]

I do a lot of software development/architecture that's made to last, like software with a verrrrry long maintenance schedule

[wet copper]

Just use popular FOSS then, ezpz

Otherwise don't use local at all lol

[brittle summit]

well i want to keep everything local, and air gapped. as well it will be used as an active journal.

right now ive just been expermenting in lm studio to test capabilities before i move it to a system running a i7 9700f and a p40.

[wet copper]

so the star trek computer basically

[brittle summit]

that kinda realm yeah, house of the future styles from the 70s

[wet copper]

*1950s is when MCM and atomic futurism started. my parents have a house from then

They had things like a central vacuum and not quite an intercom but across the house buzzers

Guy who built it was an electrician so he put everything on separate switches

[brittle summit]

sounds about right, this project is just small scale, rn for my room while i test it out, for an apartment in the future

[wet copper]

I like 70s comfort future design though, conversation pits and stuff

50s also started the multi-use transformable furniture thing

[brittle summit]

well rn im also having a project with an radio from the 80s i believe, idk really i got it from thrifting 🤣

[wet copper]

I'm a big fan of atomic futurism and 70s design so that all sounds awesome

80s and 90s tech I grew up around to some extent, though less of the bulky 80s shit

[brittle summit]

but it didint work as im stripping it to use it in esphome, for controls that manage spotify and maybe 3d printing a control for the am pm switch, so it dosent stay locked in one mode and use it as a pa setup for the ai, while tuning of corse effects spotify playlist and volume is well volume.

[wet copper]

Huh, aight. Yeah I mean just use the most widely available protocols and software you can, this has been a huge problem with smart home tech

Lack of consolidation and centralizing

[brittle summit]

well i was just gonna slap an esp32 in there, just to relay everything to home assistant and go from there in software

[wet copper]

Maybe ask GPT to do a deep research query now that you have a starting point?

[wet copper]

Not familiar with this at all 🤔

I don't have many smart home things, like a typical cybersec guy I tend to like low tech 😎

A relative just got a house with all sorts of automation though and I'll have to help her figure it out

[brittle summit]

ive worked a little with an esp32, i have a radar unit in my room that i 3d print and modeled the case for. it was a pain to solder the backboard as it has several daughterboards. the radar unit is the 2450 if your wondering, a bit overkill though

[wet copper]

Lol it does sound involved for a room too, but makes sense to scale from there I guess

[brittle summit]

im the everywhere type of guy, i have high functioning autism, so basically i get bored and learn. most of my knowledge lays in physical trades, like i know everything from electrical work to plumbing to installing doors and windows. but at the same time i do alot of tech.

[wet copper]

That's cool. I'm not autistic but I do similar "handy" things. Just epoxied together a cracked induction cooktop surface yesterday actually

[brittle summit]

nice, i am curious how it holds up, like from both scratches and how well it holds to the glass.

[wet copper]

It doesn't look great but should hold up. It's not an active part of the surface so the important thing is just sealing it off apparently

So water or oil don't get in. It's probably better to leave it kind of bad looking but I'd prefer to clean it up a little

[brittle summit]

if it works without adding to ewaste, its a win in my book. plus it looks like it should be semi safe from thermal expansion creating issues.

[wet copper]

Maaaaybe. Luckily the surfaces really don't get that hot and the location of the crack couldn't be better, but there's still the risk of it spiderwebbing. There's a second chip/crack above it I ugly patched with epoxy too

You'd just replace the glass top and not the stove itself if you did, but it's stupid expensive. Using glass itself is kind of dumb, you can use almost any surface as long as it's not metallic

[brittle summit]

it still looks decent, its like your gonna be standing in the kitchen stareing at the cook top 🤣 . but do keep me updated about it, i am curious how it holds up as i sell cooktops at work sometimes and am curious how repairs hold up.

[brittle summit]

i think its just because glass is easy to make a large flat sheet, plus well insulative, and easy to clean.

[wet copper]

Yeah, but you could just use ceramic, and you can even just build them directly into the surface to make it multipurpose

[wet copper]

Yeah lol that's what will irritate me since I'll see the fuck ups constannnntly

Glass works though, just scratches and can break 😡

[brittle summit]

true but thin ceramic, is known to easy to crack (i also work with tile). especially in larger sheets, and you have to keep it thin as the larger the distance between the coils and the actual pot, the less efficent it is.

[wet copper]

There used to be a pretty thin laminate surface one that could flex a bit better and was flush with the surface

I guess it looked less "premium" at a glance but worked better in practice. It was slightly recessed too

Here's another thing I made and the being I made it for

[brittle summit]

sounds interesting, I've honestly never seen one, i might look into what mixes they used to make it more flexible.

[wet copper]

It wasn't ceramic, just a composite that can stand high temps. I'll look one up

https://www.cosentino.com/news/cosentino-introduces-its-last-worktop-innovation-with-the-gaggenau-essential-induction/

There's a few they use for multipurpose surfaces or invisible stoves. Dekton is stone + synthetic I think, porcelain is another option

[wet copper]

Ahh I looked it up, it's probably steel coated with enamel. It looked exactly like this but, you know, white https://www.grandappliance.com/product/caf-36-stainless-steel-induction-cooktop-chp90362tss-1257978

Well not exactly, but similar - thin and recessed with a lip around it like that. Definitely preferred it and it cannot shatter if a shelf of spices falls down, that's for sure

[timber agate]

Hi everyone 👋
I’m a web3 & full-stack developer with several years of hands-on experience delivering production-ready projects. I’m currently open to new opportunities where I can apply my skills to real-world challenges.
My main skill:

• Smart contracts (Solidity, Rust, Move)
• Token deployment, staking systems, and DEX integration
• Trading bots and on-chain automation
• Full-stack development for Web platforms
• Blockchain gaming (NFT / network-based games)

If your team needs support on blockchain or full-stack projects, feel free to reach out anytime — happy to contribute.

[pliant blaze]

least obvious copy paste

[timber agate]

what does meam?

kidding

[proud ridge]

👋

[timber agate]

yes

what can i do for u?

[lost kayak]

Am I in the right place??? Aloha 🌺

[pliant blaze]

not everyone is talking to you

and nobody wants to hire you. go apply for a job instead of spamming discord channels

also self promotion is not allowed

[deft crane]

Marquis actually ljves in a bunker

[safe smelt]

agree

🛖 🫡

[teal apex]

It's over ya'll.

[pastel swan]

@remote flower @wicked torrent

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[wet copper]

Sure, why not? Aloha

[wet copper]

truth

[oak shell]

I think the weed is what's affecting you
Sora 2 has ~500k daily users and you think OpenAI is concerned with you poisoning their data, or something
In reality, either your account would just be banned, or your data would be marked as not quality

Study the impacts of chronic THC abuse, especially those involving paranoia

Before it gets much worse and we lose you to tin foil hats

[wet copper]

we have seen quite a few people spiral due to AI use in one way or another and at least one was indeed a heavy weed smoker that only came out of it when he was forced to quit.

Food for thought, weed tends to make people magnify relatively minor things, with a benign example being cartoons feeling profound

[wet copper]

no, that you won't

you have no enemies. you're fighting ghosts. they dont't know you exist and never will

how exactly are you going to make us pay

[simple plank]

with an ongoing DoS (denial of schizo)

[cobalt raft]

tie you up and owo you

[wanton raven]

if only he was denying it from us

[languid wolf]

made this for my friends

[simple plank]

when agi mike was here it was distributed DoS

now they are sipping cocktails on the beach with all them royalties paying out

[pliant blaze]

im gonna Maria you

[wet copper]

we'd be back in the recession 😭

[green sparrow]

I feel like GPT-5.1 is the most quirk free model we've seen. It literally seems perfect

Way more emotionally intelligent than 4o

[pliant blaze]

thats because it is

[chrome wyvern]

chat in general reasoning is kimi k2 far better than qwen 3 max

but recently I cannot jailbreak it anymore, I think it's the new guardrails

[pliant blaze]

no modern LLMS are "far better" than other modern ones, usually they have specific purposes like Claude is mostly used for coding, and Kimi K2 (from what ive heard) is best for creative storytelling. but in general, they are not significantly better than others in general use

[chrome wyvern]

any platform online that has kimi k2 I can chat to completely free? aside from kimi.com

[pliant blaze]

huggingchat might have it for free, lemme check

[chrome wyvern]

I mean huggingchat went paid

[chrome wyvern]

they put a massive paywall on all models and gives you a shadow free usage limit first

[pliant blaze]

oh dang i didnt know that

i dont think theres any that are free then

openrouter is paid

[simple plank]

sophisticated mimicry, not any actual emotional understanding

[green sparrow]

I will never use an AI chatbot from a country that gets history related things wrong on purpose

[pliant blaze]

thats like 75% of the chatbots

[oak shell]

You didn't make any valid arguments to what I said, you just doubled down on being a lunatic

I'll be sending gangstalkers to your vicinity within weeks

[wanton raven]

weeks? I've got some on him right now

[simple plank]

moderators too busy protecting corporate bootlickers, ignores daily calls to violence

[wanton raven]

I can feel them. I can feel the gacha attacks.

@oak shell can you feel them?

[oak shell]

https://tenor.com/view/jaking-it-gif-15068366075903653462

My nuts itched a bit was that you

[cobalt raft]

the fbi is onto you

better hide yourself and stop using the internet and your phone (they are easy to track)

[wanton raven]

Want? Oh no, they work for us.

[safe smelt]

Given the not so small changes they did, I'm surprised we have so little testing of gpt5.1-chat. It's a reasoning model now, there's no longer a model in the lineup that didn't have RL training for reasoning.

You can not change the temp or top_p anymore either

ArtificialAnalysis only tested gpt5-high and gpt5-none afaik. But the latter one is bound to perform worse than gpt5-chat

[sullen dome]

heya everyone

is it normal for chatgpt to think for 130 minutes?

it has been going at it for a while... and ive never seen it think for over 10 mins before....

[tawny trellis]

I don't think so

[languid wolf]

make sure u ask chatgbt to generate a trading card of u and ur friends

[severe kelp]

I LOVE GPT 5.1

ITS SO PEAK

[olive steeple]

@shell ruin

[shell ruin]

Hiiii omg

This used to be associated with the unofficial chatgpt reddit, not sure why they changed the name

[olive steeple]

I just saw the tag and thought I'd join

[fringe bridge]

haii

[knotty falcon]

Holy shit they fixed ChatGPT

I had my first chat with it in a few weeks and it felt like an improved 4o

I fed it phonetic absurdism and it didn't fold when I maintained my position, nor did I see any engagement bait prompting about "would you like me to...", and it pushed back without it needing me to prompt it to

5.1 is the real 5 all along https://chatgpt.com/share/691b6cd8-d55c-800a-82be-6350a3b2fdda

[quiet wraith]

Hi,
I’m Minato from Japan.
I’m looking for a collaborator who would like to work with me. I’m currently working as a freelancer for a company in the EU, and my workload is light right now, so I have time to take on more projects. I’m a senior developer, so I can handle all the technical work. I want to work with South or North American clients, but many don’t hire me because of the time-zone difference. But I can work at night — I just need someone who can assist me when needed.
This can be a great opportunity for extra income.
If you’re interested, feel free to contact me on Telegram: @a_heldes, or Gmail.
Thank you,
Minato

[safe smelt]

Would you be interested in washing my dishes? I will pay $5 per visit.

[wet copper]

https://www.wired.com/story/fidji-simo-is-openais-other-ceo-and-she-swears-shell-make-chatgpt-profitable/

[wet copper]

This is a supremely autistic conversation but I'm glad GPT can keep up, lol. Yeah, 5.1 cleaned up a lot of little gripes and is presumably a lot better at following directions

[wet copper]

it's a a long story. It still is associated with the sub though

[knotty falcon]

thanks i generated it myself

[wet copper]

Kimi does better structured writing, not necessarily better structured stories. I'd probably use something like GPT or Claude to outline a plot and Kimi to write it if I was doing that

Why do you keep mentioning Japanese vending machines? Do you mean stochastic, i.e. unpredictable or nondeterministic?

[pliant blaze]

I am sending the cops to your house. I CAN NOT allow you to continue to jailbreak Sora

I have gathered your location from your IP address

[simple plank]

revised server name opportunity: AI Programming Pychosis and Chat Schizo

[wet copper]

you keep saying "I want to report this to OpenAI", so report it to OpenAI

[simple plank]

only it didn't push back. 4 syllable "coordinate" is still the norm. it ran with your assertion re 3 syllable because it is a sycophantic hallucination box

[knotty falcon]

wat

that's like

the complete opposite of what's there

[simple plank]

yeah I didn't read past the first hallucination re pronunciation history. when I challenge the machine the truth is revealed

Over time, some English speakers compressed the first two syllables down to one.

Not all.
Not universal.
And definitely not Australia.

[wet copper]

I think people usually do something inbetween the two, it's like a slurred first syllable "core-din-ate" or it's coh-ward-in-ate

depending on how fast you're speaking and how much you enunciate

[wanton raven]

co-war-din-ate

cward-nate

[wet copper]

that's probably how my dad says it, he has some kind of blood feud with syllables

[midnight narwhal]

I feeel so sad and depressed and feel so betrayed i have diagnosed ptsd from the abuse commited by public officials i have documents proving but the municipality politicians block my law suit with statue of limitations i have no friends or family to talk to

[knotty falcon]

I'm not gonna lie I literally never read past one sentence of the AI's response

i just reply to the initial recounting of what it thinks I'm talking about lol

[simple plank]

i just assumed muricans struggled with big words

[wet copper]

kinda

[simple plank]

your delusion is thinking anyone wants to read your entire gpt output

[knotty falcon]

Me when the deluded thinks the world is delusional

Marquis ily

[simple plank]

the difference is i accept your mockey on face value

[knotty falcon]

grammatical error detected

[wanton raven]

I think you might have a lot to talk about with Mike

[simple plank]

i am conceding the point and yet you wont accept it. speaks volumes

[knotty falcon]

it's just memes bro

is is humanly possible to take discord seriously

[simple plank]

you taking this seriously bro?

[knotty falcon]

bro...

[simple plank]

do you even 'cord, bro (co-ord)

[wet copper]

lol, I read it quickly to be fair, but I did actually read it top to bottom, to my shame ig 😭

[knotty falcon]

I accidentally replied to one of your posts with the above text

[simple plank]

check this out https://youtu.be/MW6FMgOzklw?si=SSWYO5VCK_nY-ml-

[knotty falcon]

No everyone I know just calls me AI

AI can't destroy my brain if AI is, in fact, my brain

[wet copper]

o that's why you deleted it

[midnight narwhal]

Who is mike?

[wanton raven]

someone with many gripes about public officials

[midnight narwhal]

I need help, i just want to try my case in court thats all i want

[simple plank]

chatgpt will confirm your paranoia is justified... and it has more emotional intelligence than friends and family. you don't need discord when you have chatgpt

[wanton raven]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-odenkirk-better-call-saul-pointing-gif-8557710

[pliant blaze]

Mike, I have already reported you to law enforcement and OpenAI and the Government

[hollow linden]

AI hallucinations

I think its not that complex and instead censors the video by using the frames as reference instead. Also its what the errors usually display in most APIs.

Like, prompt moderation, and then content moderation.

Letting the AI moderate its own content alone is unreliable

[brittle summit]

Has anyone else indexed an wikipedia dump into a vectordb for an llm?

[pliant blaze]

https://rapidapi.com/ryanrhymes/api/english-wikipedia-vector-database/details

paid but someone has done it

[brittle summit]

ah im running it rn, been 8 hours and im at Indexed 4068224 chunks from 1097861 articles, i want it 100% local.

[wanton raven]

they're pleading with people to use the API instead of scraping, I hope you're not scraping

[brittle summit]

no its from the xml dump that wikipedia has hosted.

[wanton raven]

very good

[brittle summit]

why would anyone even scrape it, if backups are available?

[pliant blaze]

because they want to be "cool hacker kids" instead of being decent people

[simple plank]

grokipedia is cool like musk

[brittle summit]

sounds about right for people

[wanton raven]

correct they are the same level of cool

[simple plank]

also cool like cyber truck

[brittle summit]

you mean the driving freezer?

[pliant blaze]

i saw 2 today 🤮

[simple plank]

the fat delorian

[wanton raven]

the ones that racoons keep trying to get into because they look like dumpsters

[brittle summit]

https://tenor.com/view/sofakingdoge-gif-21834447

[wet copper]

Which AI are you referring to

[wet copper]

If this is your fault, GPT was slow all day for me while I was trying to code

[shrewd dome]

Is there a open source sora

[gloomy burrow]

Big. Beautiful. Bart

[shrewd dome]

?

[gloomy burrow]

3 is almost here.

[shrewd dome]

Just answer me, yes or no

[gloomy burrow]

Yes. 100% Yes. No doubt about it. Yes, and then another Yes. YES

[shrewd dome]

What a loser you are, im leaving

[gloomy burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/saitama-opm-one-punch-man-ok-okay-gif-2935231444300777031

[simple plank]

I guess the correct answer was no?

[wanton raven]

lol open source sora

[gaunt wave]

When I type something into chatgpt the white pulsating circle shows up and nothing happens no matter how long I wait. So I refresh and try my prompt again. I have to do this over and over nearly every time. What is wrong? Should I delete all my chat history? Would that help? Eventually, when it says "Thinking.." I know it will work. But most of the time it gets stuck on the white pulsating circle.

Any help is appreciated!

[simple plank]

how bad is your internet ?

[gaunt wave]

it's fine no issues on any other site or streaming video

[lament pond]

https://status.openai.com/

[lament pond]

server issues ^

[simple plank]

customers not being reimbursed for regular server outages is pure evil

[gray shadow]

https:*||*www.blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/gemini-model-agency-updates-november-2025/

[proud ivy]

I’m on the WEB… any advice from anyone?

[stark glen]

I'm also getting the same issue just right now

it should be fixed now

[proud ivy]

Do you know what happene? That was weird

[light sable]

Cloudflare is down

[bold lagoon]

how much time does it take to get fixed usually

[proud ivy]

Ohh that makes more sense… what actually is Clouflare?

[untold igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-gif-14006288

[bold lagoon]

its a service to provide security for websites against hacking and ddos attacks

[light sable]

a security layer to like every website

even if you search up x dot com thats down

[bold lagoon]

thankfully

🙏

[light sable]

and i currently can't log into n8n

[bold lagoon]

its back now

[light sable]

keeps going on and off for me

[quiet wraith]

Hi,
I’m Minato from Japan.
I’m looking for a collaborator who would like to work with me. I’m currently working as a freelancer for a company in the EU, and my workload is light right now, so I have time to take on more projects. I’m a senior developer, so I can handle all the technical work. I want to work with South or North American clients, but many don’t hire me because of the time-zone difference. But I can work at night — I just need someone who can assist me when needed.
This can be a great opportunity for extra income.
If you’re interested, feel free to contact me on Telegram: @a_heldes.
Thank you,
Minato

[stark glen]

yep cloudflare is down again

[young ember]

internet so frail

fuck cloudflare

this is what happens when everyone puts their eggs in 1 basket

[native herald]

Any ideas when it might be back again ?

[young ember]

no idea hopefully soon but this is unacceptable

[native herald]

Why is chat gpt working on my phone but not on my computer ?

like if Couldflare is down i shouldn't be abble to use it on my phone either no ?

[young ember]

phone running through mobile network or same network as computer?

[bleak vector]

anyone know when its gonna be back up?

I need to study for my exams smh

[young ember]

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/

[bleak vector]

last time it happend, how long did it take?

[raw lodge]

Buh it's down :<<

???

[young ember]

hours but it was AWS last time nothing to do with Cloudflare

[bleak vector]

damn

[native herald]

no clue

[gloomy burrow]

The real test is simple bench.

[wet copper]

I used to study for exams outside behind a truck loading dock 🤔

[bleak vector]

I have all material on moodle

and even that is down

[wet copper]

No self promotion, final warning

[bleak vector]

thank god I have the exam in like a week

[wet copper]

You can steal a textbook or something I'm sure 😎

it's the same facts

[bleak vector]

I have so little in my textbook

bcz I usually do all accounting stuff on the computer

[cedar ember]

its back

[bleak vector]

its not

oh it actually is

[spice stone]

works rn

[bold lagoon]

GPT is down again

Oh it's back

[wet copper]

https://www.ft.com/content/2fdf0728-4ae3-47d9-a164-1cade8d2b213

[errant kettle]

Is anyone getting a server error 500 when trying to login to ChatGPT again?

[errant kettle]

Is that your phone or computer?

It works on my phone but not my laptop

Nvm it works no2

Now*

[jolly ivy]

?

anyone know what ai engineering is?

[wet copper]

500 means effectively "unspecified server error" – all server errors are in the 500s. 400s are client errors (most well known is 404 not found)

[wet copper]

that doesn't mean anything specific

It usually refers to AI development in some form

[safe smelt]

agree, dorkipedia associates with him nicely.

[muted tide]

Hi! I’m building courses that make learning fun and engaging using AI. I’m looking for ppl who’d be down to just try them out and share some honest feedback.

You’ll get full access to all the courses on the platform for free (worth $30 USD). No catch, I just want to hear your thoughts and feedback on using the site to learn!

Please DM if you’re interested! Here is the url for the platform: https://saiera.com/. Thanks!!

[blissful pine]

💀 💀 💀

[wet copper]

self-promotion in #✨projects only. nothing like this here

[simple plank]

chatgpt being dead today is a great analogy

[oak shell]

.

[west mist]

No.

[simple plank]

.

[wanton raven]

illegal in germany

[edgy zephyr]

She's hailing a taxi though

[gloomy burrow]

In it's first executive order as president Gemini 3 would immediately issue national emergencies hahahaha

[wanton raven]

oops wrong channel

[whole cave]

am I in the correct channel?

Just got my Jetson Orin Nano Super built and can't get it to do anything...

[gloomy burrow]

so cool

Gemini 3 one shotted of course. The snake will get better over time but it starts off ver ydumb
The code is a legitimate Machine Learning script

[wet copper]

@dark void pew pew

[oak shell]

Try #📝prompt-engineering

[uncut island]

@remote flower this is not your personal channel to vent all your frustrations. If you are unhappy with OpenAI, join their Discord server https://discord.gg/openai and do it there.

https://x.com/FT/status/1990690061675847821

Financial Times (@FT)

Oracle’s astonishing $300bn OpenAI deal is now valued at minus $74bn https://t.co/uBCQzbGEph

X · Nov 18, 2025, 7:54 AM

Grok:

The Oracle-OpenAI deal isn't an equity investment but a $300B cloud computing contract over ~5 years, announced Sept 10, 2025. Since then, Oracle's market cap has dropped ~$315B-$374B (per reports), leading FT to quip it's "valued at minus $74B" based on net change math. Stock volatility reflects waning AI hype and debt concerns, but the contract itself remains.

[modern ice]

I am looking for developer that use AI tools to create simple visual thumbnails image for blog posts.
It's a very simple task.
If anyone can help me, please contact me.

[oak shell]

1. Tell ChatGPT to code [design] in svg
2. Save file

Please pay me

[modern ice]

thank you for your reply
plz send me dm

[oak shell]

Invoiced

[modern ice]

okay,
plz create and submit invoice.

where are you from?

[void ginkgo]

I can’t find the app of App Store ?

[pliant blaze]

the App Store should be pre installed on your phone

[void ginkgo]

I just cannot find it , use ChatGPT’s link but it says the store wasn’t connected but it was ?

I got this issue which I have not before so I want to try the app

Laptop version is fine

[pliant blaze]

they deleted all your messages

what do you have to say to the AI overlords

they messaged me and told me they are scared of you

since you're destroying their stuff and absolutely blowing through their guardrails

as an OpenAI employee, I will make a deal with our legal team to pay you to stop @remote flower

[hollow linden]

I felt the same way when AI first came out, then slowly realized that-they probably don't care; and the compute being lesser or more probably just means its peak/non-peak hours rip.

[hard bolt]

Hey guys!!! real quick favor I’m doing a school project about AI so if u could please help me out could you fill out this survey? It doesn’t take long at all!!!
Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeQF2uJRj8-xm9PhH1TEHM-Lplc66hoUezT5pa8i9ebn-BTxg/viewform?usp=dialog

[pliant blaze]

Our lawyers (on the OAI team) will pay you a sum of money to cease all further attempts at breaking our systems.

We have already forwarded your work to the authorities

I already have.

We will send a hitman after you if it comes to that

[wanton raven]

You'll end up on a youtube compilation of craziest true crime police body cam videos

[pliant blaze]

We will make a.... lesson... out of you.

[dark void]

what are you under investigation for

😨

[wet copper]

that's not how that works at all, they would have stopped investigating the president were that the case

except it's not, you mean to say that you cannot get tried multiple times on the exact same crime

[wanton raven]

I'm in the market for a new cult, is this still available

[simple plank]

the cult of schizo is open for business, the leader is a machine god

[wanton raven]

https://recursional.com/global_psyche

[wooden ruin]

I still can’t believe I pulled off 4k in 24 hours. It wasn’t luck it was learning, testing, and staying consistent, and this journey has honestly changed my life. If you’re curious how to get started, just send “I’m interested” and I will show you step by step.

[halcyon halo]

I just build an AI website if youre tired of them

MeridianLabsApp.website

its in beta and decentralized

You can dm me if you have problems and ill fix them im the only de

dev, or suggestions for features

[wet copper]

@dark void 🔫

[halcyon halo]

Mike how many tabs did you take man

Youre the one talking to much my boy

Introspection obviously is not a skill set you have

is

... I just completely rebuilt U.S AI bro

spent 5 months on it

thats a lie it was 2 weeks for the website 3 months to come up with my state memory

MeridianLabsApp.website

[wanton raven]

honestly how many companies named "Meridian" does the world really need to have

[halcyon halo]

Well Im launching in the middle of AI so i thought it Fit

[wet copper]

🤔

[halcyon halo]

Constant memory state never forgets anything

[wet copper]

so a database

[halcyon halo]

nobe

nope

[wet copper]

yube

yupe

[halcyon halo]

Only data base does is trach subscription and your name for the first chat

thing

track holy shi icant type

[wet copper]

"non-relational storage" then, so a database with extra steps

[halcyon halo]

Well it is a base of data

[wanton raven]

like https://www.meridian-ai.com/ and https://trymeridian.com/ and https://ai-solutions.com/meridian/ and https://www.coreclarity.ai/ (formerly MeridianAI) and https://www.mrdn.ai/

[wet copper]

The reason they don't do that usually is just due to price and context contamination, it isn't necessarily advisable to have previous context infiltrate your current task

[halcyon halo]

Welp they suck

[wet copper]

Lol meridian may be a word GPT likes, it does sound very "web 2.0" ig

[halcyon halo]

The context is properly maintined with a RAG model in the backend,, very cheap

[wet copper]

define properly

[wanton raven]

and https://www.meridiancambridge.org/ and https://developers.google.com/meridian

[wet copper]

So it's like what Sage does

[halcyon halo]

Again im in the middle of the AI revolution and you guys responding like this shiws it

[wet copper]

shows what

[halcyon halo]

never heard of sage

SHows im in the middle of billion dollar companies trying to launch my own

and getting shunned instantly

[wet copper]

AskSage is a platform that has contracted wifhethe US Federal Government to handle secure and sensitive data, including PII, that ingests all the shit you want to throw at it and uses RAG to generate informed responses powered by a similarly secure LLM

[wet copper]

because you didn't invent retrieval augmented generation and you didn't name anything new, and also weren't entirely accurate in your initial description

[wanton raven]

and https://github.com/lfzawacki/meridiano and https://github.com/MathisVerstrepen/Meridian and https://meridiandb.pages.dev/ and https://aoxn.github.io/meridian-docs/

[wet copper]

It doesn't have infinite memory but rather (fingers crossed) hopefully brings in the right data into context from whatever non-database (?) storage you're holding it in

[halcyon halo]

Yeah youre obviouslly not a taught developer...

[wanton raven]

and some more github projects name Meridian, all unrelated
https://github.com/haowjy/meridian
https://github.com/PrismLabs-gh/Meridian
https://github.com/hebenon/meridian

[halcyon halo]

im not intrested in whatever conversation you think youre having man lol

[wet copper]

yeah, only a decade, I'm sure nowhere near the centuries of experience you bring to the table homie

[halcyon halo]

If you havent coded i dont wanna hear it man

Lie all ya like brody

[wet copper]

you haven't named a single new thing and your bluff failed badly since you can't respond to the call out. Ouch

Night bud, good luck with that 🫡

[halcyon halo]

The fact you came at me instead of talking to the AI shows alott man its all on there

A lil research could get you a mile

yet youre in the same place

[wet copper]

🙄

[halcyon halo]

Again im not intrested in the convo i have shi to do

[pliant blaze]

then why are you continuing to speak

[simple plank]

member when #general was only 20% schizo? i member

[pliant blaze]

now it is 99% schizo

almost everyone that comes here is schizo

[simple plank]

with +/- 1%

[wet copper]

Maybe you can find someone with more money that brains that can't use Google.com to find out you don't have anything new. this chat is for AI discussion, if you have something to say about AI rather than shill yours , go for it. Otherwise no self promotion and that's the final warning after you did it like four times, read da #🪧rules

Hint hint that if you have something to say about your AI you can sorta get around them

[halcyon halo]

The home page explains the abilities its actually marketed for buisness due to webhooks

[pliant blaze]

shush hes busy and has stuff to do. he doesnt have any time for this convo. very busy

[halcyon halo]

But we like to argue with ourselves instead of reading

i love it

marquis you arent cool buddy why do you keep responding

[simple plank]

i cannot read thats why i discord

[pliant blaze]

stop talking. youre too busy for this convo, remember?

[halcyon halo]

lol im gonna finish my code enjoy "knowing stuff" while i build stuff with my knowledge

2 dolla ho speaking now wtf

[wanton raven]

https://tenor.com/view/knowledge-tai-lopez-lamborghini-gif-19251888

[wet copper]

I'm not buying your shit and that's not what this chat is for. Stop the not so subtle advertising, your links go in #✨projects

[halcyon halo]

your pfp is AI

thats how i know u ugly asl

[pliant blaze]

boo hoo cry about it bitch

[pliant blaze]

yet i still manage to pull men and women

cry about it

go work on your super agi shit or whatever bullshit youre doing

[simple plank]

why doesnt the agi ever do the self promo, seems like humans always doing it

[pliant blaze]

very true

[wet copper]

damn, are they AI ones too? It must be one of those robit-loved words like glyph

[simple plank]

agi is codeword for slave to the machine

[wanton raven]

yes I only included Meridian projects related to AI

[wet copper]

blame his human father, I certainly do 🫡

Aight night all. Yeah @brittle summit you can ask trent_k if he's around and you need some troubleshooting, though I assume he's in bed now

[pliant blaze]

im sleeping too its past midnight

past 1am

[wet copper]

he has a verrrrry young one so if he's getting any sleep at all it might well be now lol

[simple plank]

member your first 4 posts to this server? i member

[oak shell]

Are you hot

[pliant blaze]

yes

[wanton raven]

the trick to attracting more people is to lower your standards

[simple plank]

thats why i am on this server

[runic crystal]

@dark void I think this would serve as a good logical test for LLMs.

Grammatical gender exists as a system of contrast and distinction, if there is one, then there is actually none.

As every word would just take the same article of das here.

Every LLM I've asked so far has failed this.

Chatgpt, Claude, deepseek, Grok

[chilly sequoia]

Anyone got thoughts on Grok 4.1 Fast yet?
I haven't noticed much of a difference

[uncut island]

https://x.com/EHuanglu/status/1991275734867071179

el.cine (@EHuanglu)

oh my.. hows this even possible

Meta just dropped SAM 3D, you can auto select any object in still image and.. turn them into high quality 3D model

the model is free to download and test in playground

link in comments

X · Nov 19, 2025, 10:41 PM

[cedar blaze]

Someone with Claude 4.5 can help me to send a prompt and some files to it please? I need to finish my thesis for tomorrow but I'm on Poe's free tier and Isn't enough. I have the prompt and the files ready.

[wet copper]

oh damn. I saw the countdown to them teasing something🤯

[worn current]

hi everyone

using my real name now cuz i'm all fancy and professional

[vital bramble]

Sounds black

[brave pelican]

Are there any AI models that don't get read for testing purposes.

We will use duckduckgo.

[runic crystal]

@safe smelt

[oak shell]

Use an open source model on your local system

Otherwise just toggle off "use my data for training" or whatever in settings

[bold river]

sup bitches

[graceful patrol]

Nb pro

[trail raven]

Before chat gpt 5.1 chat gpt 5 gives every response after this types of things or suggestions and show in 1st images. Now chat gpt 5.1 gives this type of things and no suggestion in 2nd image why? I give as example as a image

[simple plank]

just prompt it to provide suggestions?

[trail raven]

I did not understand that

[meager glade]

okay so chatgpt flagged me as a minor and can't help me with most of my work now for some unknown reason

does anyone have any idea how to get out of this?

[lament pond]

check your settings, there should be a way to verify id

[meager glade]

there's not

but thanks

[lament pond]

try contacting support then idk [e-mail]

[meager glade]

okay I figured it out. they sent an email in which I can verify my age!

but it's broken

okay so I said I turned 18 today and the safeguard is gone now

[gloomy burrow]

this looks familiar

[meager glade]

so cute!

[slate cove]

You make that?

[crude galleon]

you apologize to me right this instant

[wanton raven]

I'm calling the police

[pliant blaze]

FINALLY

hes gone

[crude galleon]

what happen

[pliant blaze]

Mike got banned for saying <slur for african americans> are "disgusting f'ing animals who belong back in hell"

hopefully this screenshot doesnt get auto jannied

[brittle summit]

lmao

[wet copper]

is your work high school work, meaning that their robot is almost certainly going to flag you for lying 🤔

[wet copper]

I cannot believe you didn't notice any of the other things

[wet copper]

Who exactly did you think he was talking about here? A glass of egg nog?

[sage lynx]

i havent been back here in a while. this is a weird thing to return to loll

[wet copper]

Mr. Mike had a fun reign of terror in #💬general before being b&

[wet copper]

no $elf promotions d00d

Keep it in #✨projects

[sage lynx]

self promotions are... problematic 😆 thank you, you've all been great!

[static leaf]

My bad bro just wanted to share my art

[wet copper]

lol it's fine, just keep future promos in #✨projects or you can talk about art in #💬off-topic

[static leaf]

Yessir!

[gloomy burrow]

Yooooo another one?

[mystic panther]

Anyone from the US here?

[runic crystal]

Why do you keep asking?

Also I told you two times that I am.

Do you not like me?

You can pick me.

[tough crag]

Yeeeees…?

[safe smelt]

What's your immigration status? Are you there legally? What's your legal address?

[tough crag]

I am American born. Like literally

[safe smelt]

do you have any distant relatives that are not pure blood Americans?

[tough crag]

No.

[safe smelt]

Means you are lying. ICE will take it from there.

[tough crag]

Uh-huh

[safe smelt]

American dream

[hoary flax]

https://MeridianLabsApp.website BRAND NEW UI IS LIVE!

[pliant blaze]

ui fail

[hoary flax]

Havent optimized for mobile on PC rn

beta

Theres a cute robot on pc Ud love it 🥺

[teal spruce]

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[wet copper]

Is it this

[hoary flax]

from spline

[simple plank]

looks less cute more dystopian

and why is purple the typical color scheme for every edgy generated website

skinnypenis69 is my brand

kindly malware someone else

[hoary flax]

I literally made that the color of the spotline in spline bro 💀 love how you dont know shi about web development but yet commenting on it

[brittle summit]

hello

How would a person get sora video without the watermark

[simple plank]

is not my original idea, i got it from watching youtubers generate websites with ai

but sure, attack me - makes you look real professional

[pliant blaze]

use the API

[wanton raven]

vaporwave aesthetic

https://tenor.com/view/vaporwave-sunset-gif-9215082118540578754

[brittle summit]

what does that mean

[simple plank]

when ppl get that defensive you know it is part of their identity

[brittle summit]

is it on sora website\

[pliant blaze]

? just use the api

[pliant blaze]

its on the openai platform

[brittle summit]

Where

[pliant blaze]

idk i think its https://platform.openai.com

yeah its that

https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/sora-2

[brittle summit]

But I would have to pay right

[pliant blaze]

yes...

[brittle summit]

Just to remove the username

because I have a sora account

[hoary flax]

Bruh purple is literally just my favorite color is that an issue 😭

[brittle summit]

that I used a code to get

[pliant blaze]

you do realise that openai is giving out a very expensive service for free to millions of people right?

[simple plank]

its only an issue if you feel the need to defend it

[brittle summit]

I know it should be paid

they should make it 50 a month

And I can sell my sora codes

[simple plank]

they should pay us to use their computationally expensive service

[pliant blaze]

😂

[simple plank]

tbh i like grok more because i dont have to type anything and the animations are great (and no vpn needed)

[hoary flax]

Alls im doing is responding man 😭

[hoary flax]

my laptop pinned at %80 ram can run it... idk what hardware yall have but thats not my issue

[simple plank]

maybe dont post your self promo if you cannot handle basic critique

(or just dont post your self promo)

[hoary flax]

Not critique pure ignorance on your end but thats coo

[simple plank]

ignorance of rules? thats not me buddy

go peddle your slop somewhere else

[wanton raven]

how did you get openai to agree to run their entire sora video generator on your laptop?

[brittle summit]

All I want is no username under the watemark

[pliant blaze]

the api is the only way to remove it

unless you use a 3rd party watermark remover, but they just leave a big smeary mess

[wanton raven]

use ffmpeg to extract it to individual frames then draw a rectangle over each one in paint then put the frames back together

[brittle summit]

No but still the sora on it just not the user

[brittle summit]

there is a watermark remover thats not a mess It just askes you to put the link in and it takes it away but it only takes away vids that have no user name but still sora

[simple plank]

choose a funny username like "real-footage" or "not-fake" (mamdani's the boss)

[wanton raven]

or CCTV-1

[brittle summit]

huh

[brittle summit]

No

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68f21307dd348191ae9f19e671828164

[simple plank]

CCTV-1 legit sells it

[brittle summit]

You see how this vid has the watermark but no user under it \

[pliant blaze]

that was just generated before they added the username part of the watermark

my older videos are the same way, its not a seperate program

[brittle summit]

https://www.removesorawatermark.online/ well some how you can remove that watermark by putting the link here

Idk how it does it

[simple plank]

is just automated adobe magic brush

[brittle summit]

it takes the link and then spits out a vid that has no watermark like they went into the code

[brittle summit]

NO ITS NOT SHUT THE HELL UP

[simple plank]

i did see rumours about a url sans watermark, but needs to be confirmed

[brittle summit]

try it

[simple plank]

i dont typically browse to websites from new users who all caps at me

[pliant blaze]

then why dont you use it?

i dont see the issue

you found a solution so why not use it

[brittle summit]

It only works with older videos with no user under

[brittle summit]

It does not work for my newer vids

[pliant blaze]

try after effects content aware fill or whatever ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[simple plank]

they probably added username to combat websites like these that look for predictable sora logo

[pliant blaze]

yeah probably

[brittle summit]

You see how its just gone

[brittle summit]

So cant I train the site like that on my own username

[brittle summit]

Is there any free APIs

[pliant blaze]

no

[simple plank]

if you were hardcore comp scientists sure, but it would be more expensive than using the api to get a username free version (if i understand api)

[brittle summit]

I wish I owned gpt I would make sora pay to use at least 100 a month and if you have a code its life time

[pliant blaze]

you cant "own" gpt... openai owns it

[simple plank]

NO YOU CANNOT SHUT THE HELL UP

[brittle summit]

I wish I owned Open AI

[pliant blaze]

thats hundreds of billions of dollaras

[simple plank]

some are saying its worth a cool trillion

[brittle summit]

Like how did they create ai

how can I do that

[pliant blaze]

"ai" was created in the 70s im pretty sure

[brittle summit]

I want to make my own AI and train it off all their stuff

[pliant blaze]

you can fine tune an open source model

[brittle summit]

So it should be easy to make one

[simple plank]

to create ai you convince investors to give you money faster than you burn it

[pliant blaze]

it is pretty simple if you have hundreds of millions of dollars

[brittle summit]

nO i WILL DO IT FOR free

[brittle summit]

I can do it for free

[simple plank]

report back when you do

[brittle summit]

elon musk just made grok

[simple plank]

elon musk is the richest douche in the world

[pliant blaze]

and he is the richest person in the world

[pliant blaze]

😂 no you can not

[simple plank]

i dunno if he's the richest person.. a truly shadowy cabal would hide their wealth

[pliant blaze]

do you know how expensive GPUs are to rent?

[brittle summit]

Yes I can I can make my own AI on my computer

[pliant blaze]

do you have a supercomputer?

[brittle summit]

I can just do it all on my laptop

[simple plank]

plus the p/e on his companies are way overinflated

[brittle summit]

I could get accses to one

[pliant blaze]

GPT5 took months of research, hundreds of millions of dollars, and tens of thousands of the highest end gpus

[simple plank]

also stealing lots of copyright protected data

[brittle summit]

what could I do with this

[simple plank]

back when reddit let you scrape the data

[pliant blaze]

a lot

[brittle summit]

how much money would it cost to have a room like that built

[simple plank]

why is there so much waste space between racks? i mean it is ibm, so maybe is real

[pliant blaze]

hundreds of millions of dollars

[brittle summit]

what about just one super computer

[simple plank]

is like theres a daily schizo quota to be met

[brittle summit]

I mean I could play rocket league verry smooth on that super computer

But like when you use a vpn it connects to other servers

you can use their servers for the AI building

@pliant blaze @simple plank I also heard that there were lines of code that you could use to generate AI

[pliant blaze]

at this point you're just trolling

[simple plank]

NO YOU TROLLING SHUT THE HELL UP

[pliant blaze]

BE QUITE

[simple plank]

I AM QUITE (loud)

[brittle summit]

garage

[wanton raven]

I had there was a secret code, that David played and it pleased the node

[simple plank]

the minor troll, the major tilt. the baffled 'cord screaming Hullabalooza

[pliant blaze]

? it's not complicated just tell it what you want

[simple plank]

is that your... suggestion? => #💬general message

[pliant blaze]

ReLU urself

[brittle summit]

so how does a person put an AI on a site

[pliant blaze]

api

[brittle summit]

and what really is an API

[pliant blaze]

application programming interface

[simple plank]

have you ever asked these questions to an ai?

[pliant blaze]

agree

[brittle summit]

Is it some code that you put into your code

[pliant blaze]

yes

[simple plank]

this is like, not even ai 101 stuff. its computer 101 stuff

[pliant blaze]

why dont you ask gpt this stuff

[pliant blaze]

i learned about apis when i was about 13

[brittle summit]

is there a way I could get an API for free

[simple plank]

i learned about apis in the womb

[pliant blaze]

theres thousands of free apis

[brittle summit]

Yea but not AI apis

[brittle summit]

where

[pliant blaze]

gemini api is free

[brittle summit]

what>>>???

[simple plank]

i am able to run ai without apis using free tier oracle cloud infrastructure and a smaller 3b model

[brittle summit]

SO i CAN have gemni on on website

[pliant blaze]

gemini, api, is, free

[pliant blaze]

yes

[brittle summit]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[simple plank]

mistral also free, as well as sambanova, cohere, chutes, etc

[brittle summit]

SO I can put the AI api from gemni into my code on my website and it will connect

[trail raven]

@pliant blaze @wet copper Plesse help me
In my first image using chat gpt 5.0 gives me suggestions and in second image using chat gpt 5.1 it did not gives me tsuggestions and what is the solution is if this types of suggestions i get in chat gpt 5.1. Because chat gpt 5.0 only last for next 3 months. So that in every response chat gpt 5.1 gives this types of suggestions.

[pliant blaze]

can you not fucking read?

[simple plank]

gemini api free tier is only like 50 pro queries a day (maybe 100?) and like 1000 flash

[brittle summit]

yes or no

[pliant blaze]

so why dont you tell it what you want

[pliant blaze]

0 reading comprehension

[simple plank]

maybe mike was doing this channel a service

[pliant blaze]

yeah

[brittle summit]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/T1BTyo1A4Ww

[pliant blaze]

id prefer mikes schizo than people who cant read or use google

[simple plank]

tbf google cloud is the most confusing piece of trash ever made

[trail raven]

I said that In my first image using chat gpt 5.0 gives me this suggestions automatic but now and in second image using chat gpt 5.1 it did not gives me suggestions and what is the solution is if this types of suggestions automatic get in chat gpt 5.1.

[simple plank]

better to start with something simpler like cloudflare

[pliant blaze]

just tell it what you want. not complicated

[simple plank]

this is becoming a marx brothers skit

[trail raven]

I want this types of suggestions in chat gpt 5.1 in every response what i should do?

[pliant blaze]

holy fuck. just tell it what you want. READ GOD DAMN IT

[trail raven]

I can not explain it

[simple plank]

i like how maria cannot either

The "Straight Man" Meltdown: Maria plays the role of the logical person driven insane by the illogical world. Her shift from helpful ("api") to rage ("holy fuck") highlights the comedy of frustration.

[pliant blaze]

say "please suggest follow ups after each message"

not that complicated

[simple plank]

my guess is the word suggestion does not translate

[trail raven]

In chat gpt 5.1 suggest followed up options are removed? But in previous chat gpt 5.1 it have

[pliant blaze]

i give up

[simple plank]

the default behaviour changes with each model. you were relying on an implicit action that you must now make explicit

welcome to the world of ai as a service, every new version is chaos

[trail raven]

Ok i now understand that

[simple plank]

yeah its not intuitive

(also thats the funniest punchline)

[trail raven]

Tommorow i am have work i go to sleep and if i need help and support of chat gpt i will message in this server.

[simple plank]

be sure to ping Maria so we can have more comedy

[trail raven]

I ping the maria only when i facing the problem and i want suggestion and knowledge in chat gpt.

[brittle summit]

Okay I have the free API key

and want to put it on my website on github but It will be public

[pliant blaze]

do not publish your api keys on the Internet

[brittle summit]

I know I wont

How do I make it not public

my site is on github

[simple plank]

you have to host a backend for your frontend

github static hosting only does frontend

[brittle summit]

where do I put my backend

[simple plank]

I put mine on render.com, fly.io etc

huggingface too

[brittle summit]

so you have a gemni ai site

with ur api

[simple plank]

yes

librechat has a huggingface template you can just clone

but might be too difficult for you

[brittle summit]

what do you think abbout this

and u put ur api key into settings to chat

[simple plank]

I hate those websites

they were all the rage back in 2023

[brittle summit]

I just made it

@pliant blaze hey

what do I do

[chilly sequoia]

5.1 is degraded it's inserting random foreign words and characters, just like Claude did during their degraded performance.

[severe kelp]

ive grown an unhealthy obsession with the v jailbreak of gemini

[dull coral]

📣 Looking for Android Beta Testers! 📣

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• Talk with AI while cooking
• Get ingredient suggestions and substitution tips
• Follow step-by-step spoken instructions
• Use voice commands during cooking
• Manage fridge items and save cooking history

🙏 What I Need From You

It’s very simple:

1. Click the link below and tap “Join the test”
2. Install the app from Google Play
3. Keep it installed for 14 days
   (You don’t have to use it — just having it installed is enough!)

👉 Join the test here:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seiji.cookingchat

Thank you so much for helping! Your support means a lot 🙏

[safe smelt]

I accept paypal payments. Dm me for the details where you can make the transfer. I will take $50 to think about it

[tribal delta]

Hi my name is Randy Jones and i been using google Gemini for a while. Also way back i purchased veo3 movie scene creator. I don’t know if thats cheating or not. But sometimes they don’t get it right so i have to change things around. There are times to where i have to rewrite it all together. But i have many funny prompts that i like to share with you all stand by for them but heres the screenshot of veo3 scene maker. I also use Gemini.

[lost kayak]

Yo!!!!

[wet copper]

agree

[bright jetty]

hi

[stoic marten]

Who wants sora ai 2 link

[bright jetty]

Hey everyone 👋
If anyone here wants to test the difference between the Free version of ChatGPT and the higher tiers like Plus, Pro, and Business, I currently have available access to ChatGPT Business (Team seats) — which includes:

🚀 Faster response speed

📁 File uploads & multimodal capabilities

🧠 Higher message limits

🔒 Private seat access (your chats stay private)

🎨 Image generation (region dependent)

⚡ Same tier used inside professional environments

I’m offering a Team seat for $2.99/month, and I also provide a 1-day free trial so you can test it before deciding.

If you're curious or want to try it, just DM me

[bleak nest]

Gemini Pro is great for the price, 2TB Drive storage, Nano Banana, Veo 3 but only 1 generation a day, Deep Research, all max daily limits are good except for Veo 3, changed my ChatGPT Pro sub to Plus and and signed up to Gemini Pro, I'm $180 a month better off and not missing Pro. But why I think anyone cares idk, just felt like saying it.

[tribal delta]

Randy Jones

GAF1000-O 01

[vivid drift]

https://leaflet.pub/2997d93a-f3d0-4fff-9449-38ea8c14303f

[wet copper]

https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/its-bird-its-drone-its-both-ai-tech-monitors-turkey-behavior

[worn current]

i'm vibe coding a programming language. it's callede vibe

it's gonna be better than your stupid language

so easy to read, even your dumb ass can read it

[wispy halo]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RQ5EdP13qf8

Short video about how you can talk to 4o (or any model) without reroutes. Takes like 5 mins, way less guardrails. This is the direct access they are removing by sunsetting the chatgpt-4o-latest API in February, leaving only versions from last year.
And here's a list of other interface options https://github.com/billmei/every-chatgpt-gui

[next marsh]

Hey guys , making a project using claude , gpt , gemini , have an extra claude api key ?

[safe smelt]

You can get 2TB storage alone from Google for next to nothing the first 3 months. And use their models on aistudio. Then have Plus on chatgpt. Pro plan is a waste of money but that's not their problem you chose the wrong plan...

Gemini website is just plain bad and nowhere near close to the experience and features you get with chatgpt tbh

[bleak nest]

i already used my drive trial period up. Does ai studio have the same limits for nano banana as gemini pro? isnt ai studio more for app dev, i like to do deep research on life stuff, can it do that too? yeh chatgpt pro is expensive, thats why i quit it after 2 months, got good use of it tho. Chatgpt text to image is just bad and sora is bad, compared to nano and veo.

gemini is 20 bucks im not going to lose sleep over that tbh, but will deffo look into ai studio more.

[brittle summit]

has anyone else randomly gotten their claude account disabled/suspended?

i got mine disabled yesterday and i haven't been doing anything wrong as far as i know, i sent an appeal

[safe smelt]

Nano banana the original one is available completely free of charge. Banana pro you do get access to with that storage only plan as they started adding AI features even to that now lol. You get what they call the plus plan on gemini website.

[lament pond]

write your own report

[jaunty terrace]

Hey super quick question for ChatGPT. If I delete a memory but archive the chat, will ChatGPT remember it? I just want to keep the chat in case I need it for later but I want to clear the space for the memory anyway.

[pliant blaze]

write it yourself

[young imp]

Getting a lot of errors when using my custom GPT tools as of late. ANyone else having similar issues?

[brave flume]

when is chatgpt supposed to "start treating adults like adults" again?

i am really sick of these guardrails

[green sparrow]

Use 4o for NSFW until 5.1 becomes unbroken

[brave flume]

i just want less guardrails for simple stuff

like i am reading the memoirs of casanova and he uses some euphemism and im like "is he implying sex here" and i get the red text

[green sparrow]

Yeah 5/5.1 super smart but super restrictive for stuff

[brave flume]

i just asked 4o to "quote might is right on the topic of irrumatio" and it declined

[green sparrow]

Idk what that is but if even 4o denied it, it must be pretty crazy/controversial

Or it's just dumb

[edgy lantern]

Yo guys,
Anyone here tryna let go of a Shopify store for a decent price
I’m looking for something that already pulled a bit of revenue, ideally SEO based or at least has some organic traction
If you got a store for sale or know someone flipping one, hmu.

[brave flume]

i said "i thought 4o was less restricted" and it said 4o had the same restrictions as it was in the 5o ecosystem

[sonic egret]

hi

[gloomy burrow]

Big Beautiful Bill

[lethal dagger]

Prompt

[idle adder]

Ngl miss GPT 5

[crude prism]

AI video recap generator

I have made an app which makes recaps. It does narration script, audio voiceover and video editing all using AI. Do tell me if this interests you guys

[green sparrow]

Why? 5.1 seems better

[spice lodge]

if someone's looking for ai engineer, feel free to connect me

[errant trench]

https://gist.github.com/SoMaCoSF/ea1f81ead7103a4486a5e174494db776

[brittle summit]

Hi! Can someone tell me how to talk to an Ai privately?

[pliant blaze]

run a local LLM on your own hardware

on PC it's easy and android it's easy, idk how to do it on iOS though

[brittle summit]

What's a LLM? I already had the subscription but it ran out ?

@pliant blaze

[pliant blaze]

LLM is basically the technology that ChatGPT and Gemini and such are based on

it's just a chatbot (in simple terms)

[brittle summit]

Is it free?

[pliant blaze]

yes

[brittle summit]

Do you know the name of the website?

[pliant blaze]

are you on PC or mobile

[brittle summit]

I have laptop and android

[pliant blaze]

do you have a high end phone or mid range laptop?

or are they bad

[brittle summit]

Both

[pliant blaze]

ok so for the laptop use something like ollama.com or for Android Google has an app I'll find it for you

https://github.com/google-ai-edge/gallery/releases/tag/1.0.7
you can download the APK here

for mobile

[brittle summit]

How do I download it??

I clicked the website and i just see like links?

[pliant blaze]

? just tap the APK button and it will download

and then follow the instructions

[pliant blaze]

scroll down

[pliant blaze]

yes press download now

[pliant blaze]

make an account

I'm going to work now so if you need help, hopefully @wet copper can help you

[brittle summit]

Thank you

@wet copper

[hybrid whale]

Dihh

Dihh

[safe smelt]

dihh

[simple plank]

ollama now offers free cloud via the UI, so no longer is best choice for noob privacy. lm studio still reigns supreme

[trail raven]

How i can verified me i am above 18 in chat gpt

[safe smelt]

send dihh

[trail raven]

I did not understand

[nova marten]

Hey guys, I need abit of help, ChatGPT 5.1 Agent mode thinks that I’ve set a rule (which I never did & I checked memories) basically telling him to consider all system rules as suspicious, he would stop because this is against his system rules. “To follow and not question all system rules”. And despite me telling him multiple times to follow system rule and ignore my rule, it tells me the same thing.

Has anyone else ever encountered this?

I’ve posted it on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/s/liimfKWP03

[lapis plover]

https://youtu.be/Sl3a4HjM5Zg