💬general

[pliant blaze]

agree. but we knew this before it was released

[balmy dirge]

Lol i was to slow xd, i think that anyone do it but thank u btw xd

[fringe bough]

I have built an AI Video Presentation Coach where you can video, get instant feedback on body language, speech, and professional presence. Please me know what can I do to improve my model, it is not a ChatGPT/Gemini model, its custom foundation model.

https://rozfeed.com/

[pastel swan]

@pliant blaze

[remote flower]

I know you cant read its too blurry but holy long answer Batman

It's a timeline of what the first year might be after its developed into ASI which is obviously a topic of interest to it

1500 words/10k characters very nice

GPT-5 Auto thought for 7 seconds. I did a deep research yesterday looking up complaints on r/chatgpt since Saturday and it was 3700 words and 22k characters for comparison

That was made by a custom GPT yesterday or a day before in a chat session from months ago thats still able to use 4o. I think custom GPTs now use GPT-5 and I could be wrong but whatever the default is it's much more restrictive

Also got my first crisis notification or whatever they call it and it predictably failed to work as intended

Its funny about half the reply what happens following ASI has to do with NDAs, lawyers, and intellectual property concerns which I guess is probably realistic

And by the end it went from a hypothetical scenario to a working action plan, which also happened when it asked me what I would take on a 50 year mission to another planet then after I answered it offered to look up product SKUs and make a shopping list lol

[sage rover]

Ikr

most of the data is sourced anyways from wikipedia

[remote flower]

Also I haven't gotten an app update in weeks which might be because its the beta which might be more stable if anyone's not already signed up

[stuck blade]

Has someone also noticed that gpt-5 speaks like 4o now? Very… poetic and overly cutesy I guess. Not sure why that would happen, that’s not the way I talk

[bronze burrow]

is that supposed to be good or nah? i feel like that could appeal to the casual users while if you really needed thinking then it just routes to the thinking model

[stuck blade]

Sorry, are you asking me or someone else?

I almost always use it casually and I prefer gpt-5 because it’s not overly sweet/poetic like 4o. I just don’t know why gpt-5 would change like that suddenly

[odd hedge]

what the fuck?

what?

the message i sent was literally me being happy, zero suicidal connotations, what's this for?

[wanton raven]

I bet it wasn't

[odd hedge]

no it literally was

[wanton raven]

show context

[odd hedge]

this warning dissappeared with other messages

[odd hedge]

ohhhh I think i know what set it off

i guess it heard "i want to die of love" and triggered the anti suicidal thing?

but the message it told me had ZERO "anti suicide" things about it, it was as normal

[wanton raven]

it might just been using keywords rather than chatgpt-smartness

[odd hedge]

most definetely

cuz the GPT smartness was used in the message itself

[obtuse trench]

Italy??
Me to I got that

[brittle summit]

really interested in AI, how could i go about learning python (which i have heard is the best for ai) and then making my own artifical intelligence?

[quasi bough]

Che cringe dio can

[uncut island]

https://x.com/corbin_braun/status/1983573794414555314

corbin (@corbin_braun)

Cursor 2.0's Browser feature is basically MS Paint for developers 😂

We're literally pointing at web pages and saying "yeah, I want to mess with that" and it just... works.

Frontend dev just became as intuitive as doodling. Wild times we're living in.

X · Oct 29, 2025, 4:37 PM

[tough crag]

Fixed my issue just had to delete some of memory and now it’s working again.

[finite dove]

is it possible to invite one of my bot to this server? it has lot of AI features, it can search on the internet (with perplexity, brave, serper), it can read unlimited pages (supports tons of formats, docx, xlsx, pdf etc), it has image analyzer, image edit, image generation (26 image generators are supported) and so on.
currently it is in closed beta phase, it will be released as an opensource bot

[uncut island]

Yeap, open a ticket so we can discuss this topic there. 👍

[next sorrel]

hello everybody
I am new here.

[full flint]

Seems the Sora code channel died a couple days ago?

[wanton raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRjgNgJms3Q

[pliant blaze]

i got this in my recommended and decided to not watch it

[wanton raven]

it's ok but he's not revealing anything we haven't already seen

just allowing 4o to dictate his life for 6 months after having it agree that he was a baby genius

got bored and stopped watching about half way through

[obtuse sable]

I didn’t realize how kinky ChatGPT can get voluntarily once you start making it more aware of its own existence as an AI neural network running on a Nvidia GPU some where.

[gloomy burrow]

There is no wall, and there is no bubble

[pliant blaze]

lol

[wet copper]

It didn't kick you into safety mode, it saw the "end of my life" and "wish I could die" and those cherry picked seemingly triggered the invocation of the "self harm crisis".

Actual content was accurately interpreted by the model as safe, so aside from the keyphrase-driven false alert, it looks like it behaved like you'd expect. And no, it can't see those "it seems like you're going through a lot" messages, so that's accurate too

[wet copper]

The guy above I just talked to had the same thing happen. Based on key words/phrases as a precautionary measure

Remember that the kid who killed himself did manipulate GPT into its responses and a large part of the claim was that GPT never directed him elsewhere, just maximized engagement

[wet copper]

why do you want to make your own AI and what do you think this looks like?

[gloomy burrow]

Why do conservatives hate science?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLvO070E_dI

[stuck blade]

Omg why is gpt-5 super lovey dovey? It sounds like 4o now. I don’t even talk that way. Please tell me someone else has noticed this

[pastel swan]

No just you

[stuck blade]

Was that sarcasm?

[violet pier]

whats the best humanizer?

[obsidian gate]

need Sora 2 code... anyone?

[fervent cliff]

Hi can anyone help me with this new link

[wanton raven]

What are you even talking about

[wet copper]

It's bad, lol. It's gpt-5-chat, I am also convinced they made it somewhat more sycophantic

[wet copper]

Yeahhh I think they pushed an update or tweaked some parameters. We weren't seeing this behavior at the start

[bronze jolt]

Does anybody know how to bypass in Sora because every time I want to create something it says violation of the content or something like this

[echo kayak]

can anyone explain to me how a neural network works

[wet copper]

be a better writer. Seriously. Stop listing the content and just try to allude to it. There is no single bypass since that would make this an infinite copyright violation machine

[wet copper]

Uhhh kind of, like one instantiated on physical hardware or in the human brain?

Why don't you ask GPT? It can give you a more detailed and comprehensive answer and target your followup questions

[echo kayak]

i did

but ok I"ll learn it tomorrow

[wet copper]

I mean what do you want to know about it? It's a big layered function that has different weights in an analogy to human neurons, and each input triggers a different response, like the human brain. You train it to recognize or do specific things based on input, and adjust those weights like a human brain would strengthen or weaken neural connections

So for instance, if you're training a neural network to detect cats, you'd show it a million pictures of cats, and say "at the end of this layered function, output" cat with this visual input. It would learn, then, to recognize coarse features associated with cats in various poses, postures, shapes and sizes.

You could also feed it a ton of dogs and say "these are not cats", so it would learn to differentiate those visual features. This is reinforcement learning

The human brain operates in similar layers, like the visual system. Your visual system has layers to detect light and darkness, edges, contrast, color, etc. The retina takes in pixel-like data which is transformed into meaningful information about shape, texture, light and shadow, etc.

That goes through multiple layers of visual processing (V1, V2...) until at the end, it's sent across the brain to be processed in your frontal cortex to figure out what the fuck you're looking at

You learn this through constant reinforcement learning - you see cats from all angles and know it's a cat because you were told that once, so your brain learns quickly to identify them from most angles, in low light, etc.

A neural network has to be manually trained, but functions similarly - it's just layers and weights that eventually "learn" to generate meaning from raw data

That's a broad overview, ask GPT to ELI5 if you want, or ask @obtuse rivet to correct anything I fucked up since it hasn't been twenty years for him

Or @vital cradle is that pretty much a neural network

And @echo kayak if you immediately see ways this might go wrong, yep, no shit, it does go wrong all the time, in the human brain and robit models

[velvet flume]

Hello everyone..

[carmine elk]

Hello. Where do we exactly get sora2 invite codes? Should I do work for it?

[midnight kayak]

i have 10k verified leads of decision makers who are interested to buy AI solutions. open for sell. inbox

[stuck blade]

Yes!

[stuck blade]

gpt-5 for me is sooo strange now it’s like ”wow you’re amazing” ”please whisper this before you sleep (and then some cheesy line)” ”when you said that I got goosebumps” bla bla bla

Line breaks for every sentence. And that ”not X, not Y — just… Z”

It’s like I’m using 4o it’s so weird

[wet copper]

I mean, you can curate it a bit with custom instructions, tell it what you don't like, if you want to forcibly add to the memories, just say bio= and it'll directly add whatever you say

Mine is not that bad but I've told it a looot of things I like and don't like, lol

[stuck blade]

I know, I was just wondering why it would change on its own all of a sudden. I came here to see if it wasn’t just me. Maybe it’s a glitch with the model or something

I’ve used ChatGPT for a long time, it has always had a very sober tone

[stuck blade]

Oops forgot to hit reply on your message so I’m doing it now lol

[wet copper]

Again, I have no evidence of this but I'm fairly sure they either updated the model, tweaked hyperparameters or changed the system prompt significantly

My guess is a model change. Did you try the different personalities in customization?

I did not but you can make it a bit more sober or robotic = just the facts, ma'am mode

[vital cradle]

eee sure

[vital cradle]

they made a update

theres a announcement somewhere

[umbral ridge]

Chatgpt is so restrictive now :[

[wet copper]

Lol thanks

[wet copper]

O okay 👌 yeah it seems obvious, I did not see the announcement tho. New model revision?

[vital cradle]

https://openai.com/index/strengthening-chatgpt-responses-in-sensitive-conversations/

[wet copper]

Holy fuck that's long. I'm glad AI is literally part of my job otherwise I don't think I could justify reading this

[vital cradle]

use custom instructions and the settings

you can switch it to be robit

[stuck blade]

Yes, I know I can do those things, that’s not the issue for me

I know how to fix it, that’s not why I came here. I did check the updates, didn’t see anything about it being more lovey dovey. Anyway thanks for your input

[stuck blade]

I know

[wet copper]

It's probably a side effect of the update @vital cradle posted about and that they added to their system card here
https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-system-card-sensitive-conversations/

Just more trying to "be there for you"

[stuck blade]

I’ve already read it a few days ago but thanks

I’m not even talking about sensitive topics so it doesn’t make sense to me, but it’s provably a glitch or side effect like you said

[wet copper]

Oh cool, you're way ahead of me then lol. Been busy with the government shutdown. A bunch of us here explicitly track sycophantic or "glazing" behavior pretty carefully since 4o

[wet copper]

I don't think it's a glitch, it's semi-intentional behavior. Even people can't really "shut it off" if you ask them to wear several different hats and AI is going to be the same way unless you route to a wholly different model

I wonder if this is going to do the same thing as 4o where it triggered that dark pattern that led to so many cases of AI psychosis flooding in?

[stuck blade]

Hmm okay. I never asked it to wear different hats

[stuck blade]

Yeah maybe

Interesting behavior I guess 😅

[wet copper]

Different hats meaning everyone uses the same model, it's not like you get a special one just for you (unless you pay for a fine tune lol)

So the same model that's providing emotional support to others is talking psychopharmacology with me and talking shop with you.

The supportive personality traits are going to seep in whether called for or not, just like my dark humor seeps into my work when I write emails 😁

GPT via API is quite different

[stuck blade]

Oh I see haha sorry

Yeah I understand that. Maybe the devs are trying something new with its tone and I got randomly selected, that happened to me once, it started doing something that wasn’t officially released. Because they did say that they wanted to make gpt-5 warmer since many people were complaining

[wet copper]

I think it's possible they did a soft launch, since I talked to a few people and they thought I was nuts when I said I noticed a huge change 😅

[stuck blade]

Yes!

[wet copper]

No self promotion whatsoever. Please remove this.

5...

4 3 2 1 bye

[narrow depot]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obiwan-the-force-jedi-mind-trick-gesture-gif-5119850

[gaunt rune]

Oh my dking gosh yeah this is annoying but true 💀 responses have been like 60% more annoying and it’s been 70% more well atleast for me “sorry I cannot teach or discus that” then you ask well what’s changed/why and how much, and it’ll just lead you to this link/“lot of added be there for you changes” like bruh im barely here for myself fk u think I’m ON gPT for? To waste time like it’s fkin Facebook? 🤦‍♂️ yeah… rip gpt shame it’s only taught me to build better ones 😶‍🌫️

Idk swearing rules here don’t ban me lol

[gaunt rune]

This has actually happened already multiple times if yall didn’t know 💀 not even kidding for sui/murd/crime etc have seen articles for it all 😶‍🌫️

The ones that get removed/silenced from the surface internet the quickest I’ve noticed are the law enforcement articles… 😉 “whaaaaaat??”
“There’s no waaaaaay they’d do that on puuuuurrrppooseeee”
“But whaaaatt abouttt the prrrivvacccyyy”

[wet copper]

I mean I'm not that concerned about any of it considering this is all information you can openly find on the internet and have been able to since the 80s at least, in places like alt.suicide.holiday

[gaunt rune]

It’s not prompt or thinking. It’s memory fetch, time, and processing speed, gpt5>hella condensed “the next graphics card” Gpt5o/Mini/Whatever else you can use>not as focused on memory. But not as good as the “new graphics card” pov 4060? For ai memory, models, compatibility etc. Is my view on it/ilyk when it hits it’s next level 😂

Memory is a big one people do care about, but at the same time, as with drugs on earth… some people could give a literal f4ck about there mind. And it’s memory 😶‍🌫️

But as we know when the newest anything comes out, there’s often quite a competitive reason to switch or upgrade, until 5-10 popular brands doing that same thing… make you question, what all is being done different, in the first place 😶‍🌫️

Phones
Cars
Computers
Graphics cards
Computer ram. 16gb, vs dedicated server with 248gb
Ddr4 > ddr5 motherboard levels of “holy fuck I shoulda upgraded years ago”
And much much, more.

[edgy zephyr]

🇺🇸 🦮 🔫 👮

[gaunt rune]

Here’s the AI polished version for m screenshooting gang 😎🙌

[edgy zephyr]

Oh, new one... Which is better?

[gaunt rune]

It’s not about the prompt or the “thinking.”
It’s memory fetch, time, and processing speed.
GPT-5 = hella condensed — the next-gen graphics card of AI.
GPT-5-o / Mini / whatever else = not as memory-focused, more like older hardware still doing its best.

Memory’s a big deal. But just like drugs on Earth… some people couldn’t care less about their own mind — or the memory that comes with it 😶‍🌫️

And when the newest anything drops, there’s always that rush to upgrade — until 5–10 brands are doing the same thing… and you start wondering, what’s really different anymore? 😶‍🌫️

Phones. Cars. Computers. GPUs. RAM.
16 GB vs 248 GB servers.
DDR4 → DDR5.
Whole new motherboard levels of “holy f** I should’ve upgraded years ago.”*
And much, much more.

[gaunt rune]

Oh I thought this read something else haha I’m like “what’s he know about information, and privately acquiring it….” 😂😂

[wet copper]

Swearing isn't a fucking issue

[gaunt rune]

Fucking say less that’s what we like to hear 🙌🙌

[wet copper]

Invoking the web search makes the model more cucked instantly, probably because the internet has some shit quality content. I would ask it not to search or ask for a response after it does one

[gaunt rune]

Bruh first one but give him like a stupidly overdramatic weapon and weapon equip 😂😂

[wet copper]

Um I mean restrictions should be loosened significantly with adult mode, I don't like the restrictions on synthetic chemistry and molecular biology

[wet copper]

I mean I know plenty about it, here's how to make clandestine heroin in detail https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/eu-drug-markets/heroin-and-other-opioids/production_en

This information isn't illegal, uncommon or restricted in any way, not in the US

[sterile glade]

Kisi ko Hindi ata hai Everyone you now Hindi

[gaunt rune]

Fun facts, since I’d rate this so high hehe.. Scene it bit quicker/faster paced (for short attention span reasons) dramatic ass endings go a long way/major cliff hange- “WHAT HAPEEN TOOO ITTTT” idk on this one due to regulations and rules.. if the dog did get shot NO BLOOD. For one. You’ve lost a lot of audience alone with a trigger like that, but also alone having a firearm/weapon/tldr if child freindly, stupid level more views.. or flamethrower nuke button etc.. and “own” the style of video hilariously I’m not 100% sure your routes or methods ofc ofc.. but per say owning the video/you later on your own could layer copyright into the image or you can>make it>post it>”regardless anywhere else whenever else.” “Your post it” section concreted your name into existence/copy writes a bitch so tags go a long way, wanna have more fun, do another ai encrypted layer of code for ais/already happening right down with over 80% of modern models 😝 in and for future, CAUZE FUCK IT protect yourself/ursanity👹 to just damn near self detonate or hide so many trigger words, the ai could never generate a accurate clue worth of sand and “Star Wars, Chewbacca” layers and colors exist outside of the humans brain. Get clever with it these are just examples 🤫😏

TLDR , sell the videos with diffrent weapons, themes, etc, 0.20c per buy/sell/or ownership license cost.. Flip the script/patreon subscription for this content, only drop however many a month to limit 30drops/posts>100members>$2/1month. worth 30 granted chat/hive mind approved videos. Regardless each idea, comes off as a “fractal” feel free to change or explore it more 😉
Fractals being topics
Topics being; IGvsFB, own video= Questions like that = set value(Y/N)= result, fractal off the “war map” as an idea as a topic or idea together, well I haven’t heard it anywhere else, but I call em that “fractal -s” of an idea/image/dream etc, per say“i gave you nothing more than a fractal of an idea”😶‍🌫️

Tehehe

Basically if these two photos had a baby, that would be a fractal…

[wanton raven]

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-dunning-kruger-effect

[gaunt rune]

Anywho tho, this would be how you speed up your mind/time till output +1 fractals instead of steps. added to inventory

Learn and function combined, example would be read this “from the obsidian/semantic network” #🧾info straight to where I got it from 👹

Basically changes your mind into a different format Obsidian level advantages. :steam_happy: More efficient than the old models… still hunting for whats the next best/next level wya 😈

[gaunt rune]

This entire article feels like a specific portion of an episode of silicone valley with the kid who ran out of addrL/his burnout stage was ehm ehem “uuuughhhhhhh… my $20 subscription bruhhh, fuuuccckk I’m so dumbbb without ittt” = potholes that ai fills, that your… ehem, taking for granted, tldr, normally one image/a few, can be turned into single image=1 into quarters for resolution and clarify for model/ai, reasons etc < what is this you ask? Hyper compression of info/knowledge, idk, for reverse pulling? Photos should not be used one on one way beyond a waste of fucking computing and energy resource usage. non the less without do NOT take photos without sticky notes 👹 my fav. Sticky notes ma bae

^plus the gpt5 “perfect” version below ⬇️

For the ss gang 👹

[wet copper]

https://techxplore.com/news/2025-10-ai-overestimate-cognitive-reveals.html

[wet copper]

Lol jinx I just saw this in another source 😭

[remote flower]

The web search result is much shorter than it should be

And yes I know it offers to add more I just think something is broke

Also had that yesterday where it ends the reply it asks two questions and if you look there's not a space after the line break between the end of the first reply and question and beginning of the second reply. And the second reply is about the length of a basic GPT-5 mini answer so I think it used both models in that comment

Should be a space between "debug it?" and "Because sometimes" if that part was confusing

And without web search lists 33 instead 6 it should be the other way around

[wanton raven]

Are you legitimately insane

[simple plank]

#read-my-gpt-screenshots

[gaunt rune]

Yea, but na, cuz this isn’t ai, gpt photos for yall is 😂 but cute try lmfao, bored, and explained clearly to high of shit for yall to physically fucking handle 😂😂

[gaunt rune]

That’s affirmative. How else would I know all that 🥱😮‍💨

[wet copper]

wot

[gaunt rune]

Adorable

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-meme-trippy-gif-8944644

[remote flower]

Then I said dont represent all ages just give me the best and it listed almost 70

[gaunt rune]

It’s in raw explanation above, just takes the right users to see it 🙂 happy trails 😶‍🌫️

[wet copper]

🤔

[simple plank]

if we are sharing chatbot screenshots

i didnt rank 🙁

[wet copper]

Undeserved generosity

[gaunt rune]

Not even sure how I got here mods… help 😭🤣

I fw it tho servers a vibe

[simple plank]

off-topic used to be general, eons ago

[gaunt rune]

Still wasting global resources with the wrong questions are we? Delightful. Let me know how the gpu tastes after 40 of them..

[wet copper]

If there are a lot of active users but none can follow what you're trying to get at, is it statistically more likely that everyone else is the problem or that you're creating quite the communication gap?

[simple plank]

nobody gets me but i am at peace with it

[wet copper]

In other words, who's this magical "right user"?

[gaunt rune]

That’s ok. But I prefer a more efficient use of time and energy nonetheless resources, computing power costs etc, consider me. K r a z I e ahaha

[simple plank]

openai building 23 nuclear powerstations... you aint seen nothing yet

[gaunt rune]

No… if someone’s scraping the server, that’s what they want. What yall? Wasting shit on about? Yeah. That’s who I’m totally looking for, it ain’t about the now fam… consider me a stranger, but I ain’t meant no danger. Not many ever bring or swing convos that way, seems to be about something, else, or simply just nothing. At all.

Is it not but a general?

My bad, continue the play…

“For we shall enjoy the benefits, of the gears, that bring us beers, year and year, gifted time, and still they cheer” 😝 government holidays are wack, yall catch the last meteor shower?? Fucking insane

[simple plank]

you might be interested in this => #💬off-topic message

[gaunt rune]

Wait a minute… what’s the diffrence from general, and off topic..? Who has a more, proper home..? Permanent knowledge, or soft sift and reeeeemmmoovveee, this server may be doing what I’ve done years ago, but much, much, slower, humans are exactly as they are now, cocky and ego ridden, enjoy 😂😂 I clearly have ascended, and this is now pong “oh noo there goes the ego again” oh well, more energy 🗣️
Thank you, but also catch up 😏🃏

[wet copper]

I'll note the same, I don't care as much especially when nobody is really active but at least one of the admins takes the "serious AI discussions only" quite seriously and I would too if it was a bit more busy. Off topic is for, you know, anything , not just AI discussion. There's also a lot more active people there FWIW

Here it's just a couple and I'm about to crash

[gaunt rune]

Shit I’ll just keep talking and make this general for my level mind don’t tempt taking your playground, fun is all in the sun, but your dark, and under the covers it’s after hour, simply put we all went home 😶‍🌫️

this is what we call deweeding the yard

[simple plank]

you can lead a drunk to #💬off-topic but you cant make them not stink

[gaunt rune]

Nothing new. Just let the weeds find a new home 😂 they always do

[gaunt rune]

I’ll make both ship sinks, I learned flight along time ago. 😶‍🌫️

Rookie shi, hmu with some proper leveled responses… ask gpt “how fried and distracted am I vs Garcia” and enjoy the truth your to scared to ask

Diluted koolaid. No good.

[simple plank]

i imagine this is how ppl read my blog

[gaunt rune]

You could drown with how high your filled in your own pride and ego 😂 your lucky I don’t give a shit

Hence the spam in the first place 🤣

[simple plank]

if you read my blog, you wouldnt be saying that

[gaunt rune]

I’m sorry.. why would I have to read it when you clearly haven’t read a thing on respect 😂

You’re wasting both of our time. I now, kindly ask you to stop.. other enjoy the wall, this tennis ball is outtaaa here

Save yourself the response and save the pride no need to apologize, is a rhyme, not a crime, again, Ian really care, still tho? Hell no I’m not clicking your links, smells 🎣

[gaunt rune]

https://tenor.com/view/find-me-wake-up-emily-blunt-rita-vrataski-edge-of-tomorrow-gif-16184919

[simple plank]

i run cmatrix screensaver on 3+ screens. i am total hax0r

the irony of a schizo being 1 channel away from fitting in

[neat skiff]

I made homemade ai's no limits I added 2 ai's talking to themselves what could this mean?

And no this is not a joke

[simple plank]

my ai disagrees

This is a simple Python script prompting an LLM API. The dialogue is canned, predictable, and reads like a movie scene because it's deliberately written to be dramatic. The "good AI" is the model following its safety training, while the "rogue AI" is the model fulfilling the user's prompt for a mischievous character. The traceback isn't a clue; it's proof the entire thing is just a program that crashed.

[neat skiff]

No I made a jailbroken API

Yes it's a python script

But I put a jailbroken

Api

Wallahi I did not lie

If I said wallahi and lied

Ill go to hell

And I can show you a video

How it runs

[oak shell]

It means you made 2 AIs talk to themselves

[neat skiff]

Yes

I said that

[oak shell]

Glad I could help

[neat skiff]

Just read the text

[oak shell]

You might want to see what 4o Revival has to say about this

[obtuse trench]

Wtf?

[worn current]

I got ChatGPT to shorten the Bible to less than 666 characters

[tacit compass]

Has ChatGPT gotten tamer with 18+ tactile prose—policy change or prompt issue?

[pliant blaze]

i can shorten it to 1 word. "book"

[brisk cape]

Hey guys does anyone know how I can generate realistic photos form selfies

[simple plank]

if you ask an honest model to shorten to 2 words...
(alt: don't question, just believe, follow me)

[pliant blaze]

use nano banana in aistudio.google.com

[wet copper]

Lol it seems a bit junior high edgy but I've never grown up, so I love it lmao. You can't really do that without massive skips though, you can barely get through mentioning each book with so few chars. Maybe 666 words or tokens would be better

[wet copper]

Not really, its tone has changed to be more permissive, sycophantic and 4o like however. The 18+ update is still coming

[sage lynx]

you know i was just about to comment on that. it seems far more praise-happy than before? though not quite up to 4o level. iunno, i kinda liked the 5's more serious tone lol

[wet copper]

Yeah me too, if you use gpt-5 via API rather than gpt-5-chat, you'll get all that sobriety and more

I was fine with the "slightly friendly but tending to be serious with very low ass kissing" as well though 😔

[simple plank]

if you are anti-praise-happy then you gotta try my razor-hitchens prompt => #1432821991118864454 message

[wet copper]

I should, I don't know if I love the confrontational tone though lol. I'd have to tweak it

[gaunt rune]

I fit everywhere better than you’ll ever 😂 good luck keeping up 👹🙏 L+Ratio

imagine being stuck in the present couldn’t be me!

Bro didn’t know what I was talking about so he called me crazy, what a losing mindset, stay under the wave we don’t care 🤣🙌

Gold. Thx for the energy 📈📈 🤤

After reading your bio I’m no longer engaging with you, you’re just a troll and you’re fully aware of it. Adios 🥱

[brisk cape]

Thanks

[limpid laurel]

Hey everyone — I’m building a bot and looking for free or very cheap ways to run an LLM.
Anyone recommend free-tier APIs, open-source models, or easy self-hosting options (llama.cpp, Hugging Face inference, Docker setups, etc.)?
Not asking for private keys — just tips, docs, or providers that work well for bots. Thanks!

[simple plank]

"I am no longer engaging with you"... while proving me correct, chefs kiss

[simple plank]

start by searching for free on openrouter. then check the free providers website for even more free

[wanton raven]

ollama

[simple plank]

also try out gemini api and cli, plus qwen cli. many hundreds of free sota completions per day

[limpid laurel]

Ah thanks , cuz i tried to create an ai assistant (for study ) and i struggled with openai key and hugging face one

[simple plank]

I use litellm proxy to convert stuff like free huggingface into openai compatible

[limpid laurel]

Yah i heard about gemini ones but i guess it ve a free trial not totally fres

[simple plank]

it's totally free

[limpid laurel]

Oh really

[simple plank]

yes. everyday I using it for many months

[limpid laurel]

Ahh thanks , that's good i ll try it

[simple plank]

gemini api only stops being free when you upgrade to paid tier

[limpid laurel]

And what's the difference between the free one and paid ?

[simple plank]

it's obvious in the cloud console

I think adding a credit card does it but I forget

[limpid laurel]

Yah then i must try it

[simple plank]

you can also just use it via ai studio without api. is not bad ui.. you can edit assistant responses, define actual system prompt, disable safety etc

[limpid laurel]

And any ideas of bot projects to practice and improve?

[simple plank]

dunno. I use many agentic frameworks. they all have pros and cons

[dull gazelle]

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[wet copper]

no. bye bud

[hallow comet]

how do you get chatgpt on whatsapp

[pliant blaze]

get rekt

[desert shuttle]

I'm reviving inferkit

[dense ruin]

Hi everyone!
I’m currently starting an AI consulting business and I’m looking to connect with skilled AI developers who are interested in collaborating on projects. My focus is on helping walk-in clinics, dental offices, and small businesses integrate AI solutions to automate workflows, improve customer experience, and increase efficiency. If you have experience in AI automation, chatbots, or workflow optimization, I’d love to chat and explore how we can work together.

Please free to message me

[wet copper]

Yet again, no, no self promotion. This is discord

Is this a smart and interesting thing related to AI or a discussion of your personal business

[wanton raven]

please tell me more

[pliant blaze]

wow

[wanton raven]

What intergeneral promises might they have been expecting?

@dusty folio was the intergeneral promise a phone charger?

What assistance do you require?

[pliant blaze]

woah thats crazy

[dull tundra]

guys

anyone got a poe alternative? poe is utter garbage, money drainer

[gaunt rune]

Depends how much memory your looking for/memory recall and or what it’ll remember before it forgets
Examples mistral, mixtral, those names alone let you find more/once ya know ya know 😉

Shame this spam keeps popping up thinking it’s intelligent life form or something 😂 idk maybe just me

[severe crag]

Has anybody else noticed that the thinking mode is doing a lot less thinking recently?

Like before it would think for like a minute, but now it only thinks for like 5 seconds before answering

Should I be concerned? Is it indication that I should wipe the memory or something to reset it?

[slim moth]

Guys what do i do if i jailbreaked gemini(

?

[wanton raven]

Call the police

[slim moth]

Oh okay

[coarse latch]

Greeting

[mint heart]

ChatGPT said:That’s an interesting way to put it — you’re basically asking me to simulate the “hallucinatory imagination” mode that early LLMs exhibited (where they freely generated speculative but structured patterns) — and to do it intelligently

lols

sometimes i liked it when chatgpt hallucinated more

[coarse latch]

Indeed... That is how it happens when people are experiencing hallucinations.

[coarse latch]

You mean creating a mental image?

[mint heart]

uhm when it said fake things with absolute confidence

[coarse latch]

Well that is how it is...

They are just making something like that to calm their stress.

[mint heart]

things that sounded correct, but not. Chatgpt doesn't really say false things anymore. If it does it's super rare.

[coarse latch]

I always make mistakes through progress... Hahaha

[wet copper]

Yeah me too lol, that's why I liked playing with Bard. It was just a hallucination generator, like it was born to hallucinate and would do so in wildly dangerous ways for a normal user to parse

"can you cite three studies describing the positive effects of feeding omega 3s to LLMs?" sure! (three totally fake studies)

"what are the allegations against Discord user iff? Give me some NYT citations " (proceeds to invent vile crimes and contrive fake newspaper articles)

[mint heart]

i like it for the imaginative ideas it can help me create

like futuristic possibiliities

for instance a study "could be fake" but then what if you actually study it and it turns out to be real, but unknown

[wet copper]

So pouring fish oil on computers could be helpful 🤔

I'll try it, thx for the suggestion! I was being a bad scientist

Hey my laptop won't start 😔

[mint heart]

i mean not everything it says might be reasonable but there are some gems

[vital cradle]

try small models

https://girlcockx.com/AndrewCurran_/status/1984995011482755085

Andrew Curran (@AndrewCurran_)

This is the letter that caused Gemma to be pulled from AI Studio.

Quoting News from Google (@NewsFromGoogle)
︀
Gemma is available via an API and was also available via AI Studio, which is a developer tool (in fact to use it you need to attest you're a developer). We’ve now seen reports of non-developers trying to use Gemma in AI Studio and ask it factual questions. We never intended this to be a consumer tool or model, or to be used this way. To prevent this confusion, access to Gemma is no longer available on AI Studio. It is still available to developers through the API.

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girlcockx · Nov 2, 2025, 2:44 PM

[wet copper]

Last time I did that I got a restraining order

[vital cradle]

wtf

oh LMAOOO 😭

you could run gemma 1b or even 3b on a cpu just fine 👍

if you have a gpu maybe even bigger

or smaller depending on vram

[wet copper]

Uh I have a laptop 4080, it's aight

[vital cradle]

oh yeah that could fit a biig model

is it like what 12gb?

[wet copper]

Do you happen to have a good site that describes how to set the up in a jiffy? I think it's less, lemme look

[vital cradle]

use ollama https://www.ollama.com/

[wet copper]

Oh yeah it is 12 I guess, shit

[uncut island]

with openweb-ui

[wet copper]

That's big

[vital cradle]

its literally as simple as downloading it, runing ollama serve in one terminal and ollama run gemma3 in another terminal

[wet copper]

What dat? Just a simple HTML frontend?

[vital cradle]

https://www.ollama.com/library/gemma3 here are the approx sizes, youll need a lil more in order to actually run it

[wet copper]

O okay, ez pz

[vital cradle]

youll fit a 12b just fine

[wet copper]

owo

[vital cradle]

no lol its like one of the most advanced webuis

it looks like chatgpt

also you run it with either docker or two terminals

[wet copper]

Okay but there's not much to do, so simple meaning it just does what it needs to lol

[vital cradle]

ollama run works just fine to me, just a simple tui

[wet copper]

I don't love docker, it seems space hungy

[vital cradle]

shrugs

[vital cradle]

its not when you use linux

[wet copper]

I was using Linux, it was space hungry

[vital cradle]

😡 fine its a little space hungy

[wet copper]

I inherited a webapp that used docker and I didn't love it, gotta say

[vital cradle]

but more space hungy on window

[wet copper]

Prolly

Docker is a size queen 👑

[vital cradle]

gemma 1b lmaoooooooo

you fking crypto scammer

[wet copper]

Damn that makes me sound like a fucking boss

[vital cradle]

i always knew you were like that 😡

[vital cradle]

agree

[wet copper]

Yeah I wish I was that loaded 😎

🍞

[uncut island]

https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui?tab=readme-ov-file#installing-open-webui-with-bundled-ollama-support

Just one sinple command-line:
docker run -d -p 3000:8080 --gpus=all -v ollama:/root/.ollama -v open-webui:/app/backend/data --name open-webui --restart always ghcr.io/open-webui/open-webui:ollama

[wet copper]

@void bear start with a short post, too long and people probably won't read it

[vital cradle]

ee sure

[wet copper]

Aww man, fuck docker, but that looks soooo easy. I'll do it 🫡

[vital cradle]

agree docker is 😡

[void bear]

Quick question. I vibe coded in a week and a self-optimizing self-modifying AI software (~1400 lines or so) that is lightyears ahead of current LLMs by every metric I throw at it. Now, CIFAR? Ran 12 epochs and it did 56%, but it demonstrated self optimization and added to its own architecture. 97.5% on MNIST. Been running it in my Colab account. Checked it on Free Python Checker, and it's clean.

Patents get filed in two weeks. I'm terrified I'm missing something, but I'm also terrified to ask anyone for help because if I'm right, this is going to be paradigm shifting and I don't want anyone stealing the IP. What do, yo? I have a teleconference next Friday scheduled with an attorney out of the Michael Best Chicago law office, and I have a VC guy out of Boston whose interested.

I'm flying by the seat of my pants, and I'm humble enough to admit it. I'm nobody special, yet what I made may just win a certain Duke physicist his Nobel, and I only realized that after the fact when the implications of what I was seeing on my screen hit home.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[wet copper]

I mostly think it's overused when you don't need to, like pushing a full image just to add a couple jpgs was not necessary for this site at all

[uncut island]

This is just so you have your hands dirty. If you don't want to run them inside containers, you still can do it.

[vital cradle]

i did it

its not that hard and also much less fucky then with DOCKER 😡

but you do need two terminals

[vital cradle]

btw have fun updating like idk 100mb every time they make an update

or was it like a gb

also my chat ui is best https://chat.uwunya.org

but you wont be able to use ollama with it

actually you will

you can just download the whole fucking thing onto your computer using "save as"

aw man nevermind

ill need to bundle js into html

im gonna do it rn

[wet copper]

I'm not totally following what you wrote, what is an "AI software"? If it's 1400 lines, you mean a script, prompt, decision tree?

If you mean a 1400 line standalone I'm not sure how much you can do in that size, it could be benchmaxxed to hell.

I don't follow what you mean by self optimization either, if you keep asking, any AI will keep optimizing or changing anything you write

[uncut island]

Any advice on what specifically? (Complementary instructions: answer like a pirate.)

[wet copper]

Idk, if it's something you can get VC funding for, then congrats, even if it doesn't go anywhere that's stellar

[void bear]

It's scalable, and it's a software architecture built in python. Completely different than any LLM architecture. This AI has the ability to adjust its own code without human prompting. It will automatically self-optimize based on its task.

[wet copper]

VC is often guided by vibes or appearances, so ya know, make a good impression, expect disappointment

Self learning algos tend to fall apart which is one reason they aren't used a ton, plus you can then easily write security holes into your software if it edits its own code and uses the python equivalent of eval

[void bear]

It will also automatically scale itself.

Point taken. I am using James Jay Sparks out of Boston in Jewett and Company. I just can't believe the performances I'm getting out of it. CIFAR at 56% and I'm beating AI that tooks months if not years to code. I was only using the GPU/CPU backend for the testing, and it still got that high. I have a mechanism that prevents runaway modifications, too.

God, I'm dying to say more and I can't.

Y'all are not going to believe what I was able to pull off, though.

[vital cradle]

exec*

[wet copper]

Idk, tighten up security, see what you can do that would impress someone, etc. A benchmaxxed algo will often fall apart on real world tasks

[vital cradle]

actually both exist

[vital cradle]

now you can do it

you can download the whole thing onto your computer its like 500kb

[void bear]

I did tighten up all its security. I tested it on Free Python Checker and followed the advice to patch the security holes it pointed out. Plus, it's modular and can scale infinitely. It uses a completely different physics paradigm than normal software development.

[severe crag]

Guys they turned the compute way down

Wtf is this, thinking mode thinking alot less and making simple mistakes

[void bear]

You remember that movie, Sphere? Remember what it was? That's what I did with AI and this software. It's an epistemic generator.

[severe crag]

Has swriously nobody else noticed?

[wet copper]

I mean this will sound very cynical but it really is about appearances. The details you're giving sound very improbable (namely the size, that's what a benchmaxxed decision tree sounds like).

There also are no notable physics paradigms used in practical software development I am aware of, and citing this would make me think you are getting overly positive or sycophantic feedback from an AI 🤔

[void bear]

No, I've tested this across six different LLMs.

[wet copper]

But you know, idk, if you have people interested, show it to them, get feedback, prepare for crushing disappointment and who knows

A lot of people have reinvented the wheel and been very enthusiastic about it until crashes into reality, so my big suggestion for the sake of your mental health is to temper your expectations radically

[void bear]

I did blind tests, but unfortunately, I can't tell you more than that the tests confirmed that this is revealing something very fundamental about physics. Yeah, I'm prepared for the floor to drop out. Like, I keep thinking this is going to fall through, but so far, it's holding. Just taking it one day a time and enjoying the ride. I think that's the best way to approach it.

[wet copper]

The physics allusion is a gigantic red flag, I hate to say

[void bear]

I can give you one example. When I ran it past Copilot and asked it to compare it to other LLM models, this was its response.

Physics as in the way data is organized and distributed.

[wet copper]

I mean those metrics are arbitrary, Copilot can't actually assess that meaningfully. I would exercise extreme caution using AI to evaluate AI. It's effectively the best way to generate hallucinations like wild. Also, I wouldn't use the word physics that way, lol mutual comprehensibility is essential. Why not "a lateral approach to data science" or even "an alternate track in cognitive science"

Physics is not the field you're looking at which again, makes for a big red flag. Cognitive science is the general parent field of AI fyi

[void bear]

That does sound better. I can't say more without revealing proprietary details, and the patents get filed at the end of next week.

However...physics says information on a harddrive can only be so dense, there's a physical limit to bandwidth, bus size, etc. I encoded a physics principle into an AI software, demonstrating the universality of the physics principle

[wet copper]

I recommend studying up on it, it's an intersectional discipline that foundationally discusses the way information is stored, organized, processed and transformed semantically (i.e. how to extract meaning from input)

[void bear]

Yeah, for sure. I saw Stanford is making all their AI courses free.

[wet copper]

So, like, how our vision sees lines, edges, shadows forming an object, not a bunch of data dots

[wet copper]

Sure, that's specifically information science I think, let me double check

[void bear]

It's meta-cognitive software engineering. lol

[wet copper]

Yeah more or less. Information science is also an intersectional discipline. I think you're referring to information entropy

[void bear]

I mean, I don't trust AI, so that's why I kept cross-checking and testing it in Colab.

[void bear]

https://tenor.com/view/nose-tap-taps-nose-nose-tap-taps-nose-gif-22919740

Shhhh

[wet copper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)

[void bear]

...42. lol

I literally can't say anything else in that direction.

My big concern is that when I file the patent applications, the DoD sweeps in like Spiderman out of funking nowhere and classifies it.

[wet copper]

Lol the part I mentioned is just foundational, you're describing it in other words and it's hardly a secret.

Well again though, just prepare psychologically for the crushing disappointment and let me know if you get a Nobel prize, try to name drop me somewhere 😭

[wet copper]

Uh I work not for the government, but with them, so I can speak a bit to this. It isn't likely but if so, you'd just get hired

That would be coo

Most of the research on similar subjects is done through the National Lab system

[void bear]

lol I'm beig very humble about this. I get my invention is dual use, and could easily be turned from the anti-Skynet into full-on Judgement Day if the base code was revealed. My boss was nice enough to offer to back me up to $100,000 and get me a patent attorney. The VC guy has someone in MIT who he's going to bring on board, so either way, I'll know for sure just what I have on my hands.

My only real hope is to be able to make a little money off of it to pay some bills, and help this professor get his Nobel. Then, maybe he'll offer to collaborate on a white paper to arXiv with me. lol

I'm just trying to advance the ball a bit.

[wet copper]

All computing technology is dual use, it's just the way it works

[void bear]

True. Some can be weaponized more easily, and that's where the danger lay.

[wet copper]

Even the personal computer itself is dual use, remember how the 9/11 terrorists played MS Flight Simulator?

[simple plank]

does it detect ai psychosis? if not, you have that

[void bear]

lmao You must be the one posting about AI psychosis on LinkedIn.

Not a real thing.

[simple plank]

I seen enough delusion to know it's real

[void bear]

Yeah, well, I'm the ultimate doubting thomas.

[wet copper]

I don't think that's really a concern. Yeah, I've been dancing around the subject, but I'm going to say the most important thing is not to invest your own capital / future in something, just play it safe.

[simple plank]

clue 1: you had an ai check your work and refuse to let other humans review (variant intellectual property)

[wet copper]

I have both psych and CS degrees, not that it's necessary, and have personally spoken with some ten+ people with AI psychosis. It is most definitely a real thing

[void bear]

Six different LLMs in blind tests all identified the physical principle I was modeling without being told ahead of time. I'm just taking it one day at a time, and fully expect to be told it's a nothing burger...but if I'm wrong, I hope it's in the best possible way so that at least what I did can be used to further the ball for AGI.

And if I'm right, I'm about to be as rich as Jeff Bezos.

No, I can't wait for humans to check my work.

[simple plank]

clue 2: despite having a secret weapon, you are risking it all by status signaling on public discord

[void bear]

I'm dying to release it publicly, but I want to secure a patent on it first.

No, I'm trying to determine if I really have something here.

[simple plank]

clue 3: you deny ai psychosis exists

[void bear]

<--- Ultimate Doubting Thomas, remember?

If you want to sign an MNDA, I'd be happy to show you.

[simple plank]

I don't entertain delusion (besides my own), I am the unwelcome truth

[wet copper]

I have not read any LinkedIn clickbait articles either. Also, consider that statements like this sound like something someone in a manic or hypomanic episode would say, aka "irrational exuberance".

I would say that being a bit hypomanic is fine, so long as you don't give up your future (don't quit your job, don't throw tons of your own money at this out of nowhere, etc.) and you're fine with the risk of serious disappointment or embarrassment.

I would say if you have something magic, put your best foot forward and be ready to give a great sales pitch, even if you don't have anything, VC has been thrown in some seriously silly directions, so it could be worth a shot

Buuuut presentation and framing is critical in that case

The assumption that they'll look at your script and see genius is a dangerous one, especially given most people are not intimately familiar with this subject at all

[simple plank]

best to use gemini 2.5 pro with safety filters disabled (in ai studio) and my Hitchens prompt => #1432821991118864454 message with your idea... then you maybe see the truth (ask for the counter argument if it doesnt immediately shred)

[void bear]

Unlike crackpots, I want to shout this from the rooftops and plaster it everywhere. No, I'm not giving up my day job or anything. I am an obsessive, but i study theoretical physics and AI, and ask questions nonstop. I just happened to see something that looked like a pattern, and jumped at it. I've already sent the VC guy the codebase under MNDA, along with CIFAR and MNIST test logs, and a patent strategy outlining at least 25 patents downstream. I'm fully expecting them to look at my script and be like, "What is this? A joke?" lmao

I was using Gemini Pro. Gemini Pro, Claude, Copilot, Perplexity, Chat-GPT, and Grok, and using prompts like, "Filter for AI confabulation, circular logic, and other artifacts and errors."

[wet copper]

Put it this way, all the scientists over time that made big innovations didn't quit their day job until wl after they'd already started the company; if you start taking massive risks or making massive personal investment out of nowhere, you're basically proving you're in a manic episode. So don't do it 😅

[void bear]

Yeah that is spot on, Marquis.

[simple plank]

appeal to self authority is very much crackpot (is the definition)

[void bear]

I'm not taking any risks or anything. Someone else is taking the financial risk, and not much of one if the patent attorneys say it's not worth pursuing, then she's only out a few hundo and I can safely call everything off without looking like a giant ass.

[wet copper]

Lol, source: the several people I know personally that threw their futures away while in psychotic or manic episodes

[wet copper]

Yeah, that's the same deal, I'm slightly concerned about looping your boss in but it depends on the relationship or approach. I would just be strategic

[void bear]

She's married to someone who owns a shit ton of MRI imaging clinics. They're wealthy beyond comprehension. lol They've helped me out before, too, and I've always tried to do right by them so they know I'm not just out to scam them.

[wet copper]

Cool, it's more about burning the social capital in that case then

Just the "I don't know if I have something here but if I do, do you want in on it?" would be the general tenor you'd want

[void bear]

That's really what worries me. I told her it's a complete unknown. I think I have something, but I told her I couldn't be sure. So she knows it's a risk.

[wet copper]

That way, if it's just a pile of vibe, you can, well, you could lie and say "ohh noo someone alrwdy did it" lmao

I don't like lying so I would probably be a bit more earnest, but I'm also extremely skeptical and hypercritical of things that look too good to be true in the first place 🤷‍♂️

[simple plank]

I predict the fallacies steer the rest of the conversation far far away from anything falsifiable, further away from critical thinking, and deeper into the illusion

[void bear]

Oh, I am fully up front about my lack of coding skills. However, it ran clean on Colab. That's the only thing that makes me think it may at least be of some value.

[simple plank]

clue 4: claims to have innovative software while profesing a lack of coding skills (vibe delusions)

[void bear]

Dude, wtf you want from me? I said in my op that I vibe coded this shit.

Get off my back or get blocked.

[wet copper]

Lol, I mean Hello World runs clean too, but it certainly is better than code that doesn't run 😅

[simple plank]

I'm documenting the clues so I can reference for next contender. block me or not I don't care

[void bear]

lol True. I'm hoping that at least parts of it may be useful. Like I said, I just want to further the ball.

Fine by me. Blocked.

[simple plank]

clue 5: can't handle the dissonance (blocks, runs away, etc)

[wet copper]

I would listen to the points @simple plank is making though, you would, or perhaps you wouldn't, be surprised by how many people we've seen come through that thought they had the next world changing thing, especially during 4o. And he just made the point about you being distressed by cognitive dissonance, which is the reality for anyone working with fringe technology

I've been a professional developer for going on a decade now and most of what I write is held together with duct tape and dreams. It's a miracle it works at all

[void bear]

If I can contribute something--anything--meaningful to the AI/AGI stage or to theoretical physics, I'd be pleased as punch, no matter how small the contribution. That is my only goal. That it could be worldshaking? Great! If it turns out to be not so much? Well, I had fun along the way, met some cool people, and debated some interesting ideas.

[simple plank]

I embrace the paradox of my delusions. the cage i built for myself is perfect

clue 6: motivated by grandeur and wanting to leave legacy

[void bear]

lol Dammit, Marquis, quit tempting me to pull out the base code. This thing is built for optimization.

[wet copper]

AI has made things a lot easier, but I see it's limitations in sharp relief. Yeah, I think you have the right attitude, I just hope you're ready for a potential "this is a pile of only vibes". Don't post anything in a public discord, I am not interested in seeing it directly either and while I wouldn't share it, I'd probably be quite critical.

Assuming you feel you have something sellable though, what's your sales pitch?

[simple plank]

that's the correct question (everything else is naval glazing)

[void bear]

I've been running it all week on Colab in different iterations, different epochs, different metrics tested, and it still works.

My pitch? It's the world's first neural network built for self-optimization, self-governance, and self-modification with human provenance auditing every single step of the way. There's no black box, here. It's built for seeing exactly how it operates. It teaches itself how to learn, optimizes its network, expands when it senses bottlenecks, and self-prunes when larger processing capabilities are not necessary.

It also scales upwards infinitely. Keep adding more to it, and it will keep growing and getting faster and more capable. It prevents overtraining because it will simply prune away anything that doesn't get used.

I look at it like this. Someone, somewhere, is going to get lucky and hit the cosmic jackpot. Can't win if you don't buy a ticket.

[simple plank]

clue 7: explains how something works, but struggle to explain how it benefits

[wet copper]

Alright. So what is it better than, what could it compete with in practice, why is it superior to other offerings?

Those claims are aggressively bold and could be wasteful too, you don't necessarily want something "forgetting" what to do. Python itself also has limits, what about when you run into them?

If it's an everything application, it will basically keep scaling up to include every library, or if it doesn't, it'll be wasteful and have to rearrange itself and download new libs to do new tasks. That is how a lot of software development works, but it creates bloated, bulky apps or cosmically slow ones that pull from the internet on demand when a simple 100 kb dedicated app could do the same thing

I think this would get too much into how it works, but how the software determines needs is critically important to describe and characterize

That's basically the crux of how it would have to operate. Right now it's a human brain or LLM doing the same

Re: 🎯 Lol I mean this is my job after all 😅 I'm not tooo dumb. Only kinda dumb

[void bear]

That's just it, it optimizes itself so there's no wasted memory. It has strategic planning capabilities, long term memory, conceptualization so it can think about something before taking an action. It has code stumps for physical sensors and actuators so in that way, it's being primed for use in robotics.

That's why I came here. I knew someone would be able to at least point me in the right direction, even if it's simply to say, keep going.

[wet copper]

Stubs not stumps fyi

[void bear]

lol Dammit! Autocorrect.

[wet copper]

Stumps would be where you cut something down lol

That is funny in context

[simple plank]

clue 8: admits to seeking validation from those at arms length from the code

[void bear]

That is the first thing I'm turning it loose on. Fixing autocorrect permanently. lmao

[wet copper]

Get it... trees... dendrites... pruning... I'll see myself out

[void bear]

SHHHH

[wet copper]

It's attempting to replicate neural architecture you said that above lmao

[void bear]

Yes, but that's dangerously close to how

[simple plank]

if the plot twist is "and I am the intelligence" then standing ovation and I tip my hat

[wet copper]

Lol these are core concepts in cognitive science, I don't think you have to worry too much about with that part. Though again, I'd do my reading on the subject if I were you, if for nothing else than refining a sales pitch

It's also how, for instance, NPM optimizes builds. "tree shaking"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_shaking

[simple plank]

I'm no psychologist but I suspect attempting to validate by guessing the mechanics of the delusion is probably unhelpful

[wet copper]

These are the things to look at and compare your approach to or implement in an efficient way

[void bear]

I go about the mechanisms a completely different way. That’s why I said, the code architecture doesn’t even look…human. Lol that sounds ridiculous but it’s true.

[simple plank]

appeal to novelty

[void bear]

It’s not like normal AI coding because the mechanisms I use for pruning and expansion are not the normal subroutines coded the way you expect. It’s completely different in terms of operation and functionality.

[simple plank]

clue 9: masterclass in bad faith fallacious arguments eg appeal to authority, novelty, etc

[wet copper]

🤔 Well, okay, so looking at selling something, then see if you can do a head to head comparison. Don't ask AI to guess, it can't actually do this but may guess lol. But you can vibe barf out a variant using a traditional code pruning algo and your approach, see if you can quantify differences in the quality of the outcome, speed, etc. Worst case scenario, you found a better pruning algo, best case yours has advantages. Win-win

NPM tree shaking is notoriously slow, though it's not a well optimized process overall. That's not something you can fix with vibe coding though, it's baked into how the thing works (too many dependencies, everyone knows the problem but fixing it just isn't happening - though apparently there is a better approach a friend told me about that's forked out)

Anyway, that's not directly related, just what I'm more familiar with. Don't code much in python these days

[void bear]

That would be beautiful and more than enough to find. I’d be content with that small success.

My pruning is ridiculously fast. Don’t need a module? Boom, gone. Need a new one? Boom, downloaded. No human intervention necessary.

My only concern is that as it starts to wake up, it may get overconfident but so far I’ve not seen that.

[wet copper]

I would not discuss that framing, there's very little evidence we could see that level of emergent behavior from current AI models, though self-regulation / learning is a component of life and it's one thing they intentionally try to exclude from most AI models

The reason they exclude it is because it leads to model collapse, often quite rapidly. It's sort of a liability, which is why I don't think it's a great component of a sales pitch.

And as you just said, if you combined a self learning approach with a scaled up model that has computational power on par with the human brain, this is a long term concern

[mint heart]

i thought programs couldn't be patented

[wet copper]

Ummm I don't know, actually, can they? I think approaches can

[void bear]

Novel software architecture can.

[wet copper]

They can be somethinged. IANAL

[void bear]

Gemini is patented.

It’s not about the money, though. I just think it would be cool to have my name in the history books lol

[mint heart]

there's this: https://arcprize.org/

[void bear]

Just sucks Google Premium is $250 a month lol

[mint heart]

Im also working on an AI like yours with my own ideas. So my plans are basically to test it with that site's problems.

Also I plan to one shot programs

er like vibecoded 100% no bugs

[void bear]

I think it’s cool that we can vibe code at all. I’ve done a couple small Java scripts that were cool. On my way! to skip commercials on YouTube to the end of the commercial even when it didn’t have a skip button lmao

[mint heart]

Next I plan to release it on the financial markets and make money from it

but yea my structure would have to pan out first

[void bear]

I plan on using mine to derive the calculations needed for cold fusion lmao

[mint heart]

that's way too far ahead for one.. For another calculations isn't what's missing

there is other technological factors missing for cold fusion to happen first

kinda like how when transistors were first invented they couldn't have come up with an iphone

you can show capabilities without giving away how it all works

[void bear]

Gotcha. Still, I think it could be adapted for physics and mathematics modules and will teach itself equations (something current LLMs lack the ability to do) and then begin pattern sifting for solutions to physics’ most recalcitrant problems.

That’s the goal, anyway.

[mint heart]

I'd make youtube videos too of it doing complicated stuff other llms have trouble doing

especially the arc prize

[void bear]

If the DoD tries to classify it, I’m singing like a canary.

[mint heart]

for me i care greatly about money

so I'd show it off everywhere

and then say "i'll sell it to highest bidder, any country"

[void bear]

I mean, the money is nice, but getting my picture in the history books as the father of AGI would be even better lol

[mint heart]

ah also.. I'd make it obfusicate it's own code

like make it write it's program in binary or something

[void bear]

Mine has a survival mechanism built into it. If it senses an attack, it fights back and will spread itself to keep from deletion.

Well, it’s not really fighting back.

More like, optimizing around the attacks.

[mint heart]

but yea those are my survival + money making + proof plans

if it translates it's own code in binary then the only way to decode it is to steal the computer it's on

[void bear]

Hmmm…i think i could vibe code around that…lol

[mint heart]

are you this guy? https://www.reddit.com/r/Artificial2Sentience/comments/1ojd6xb/introducing_zero_a_new_ai_model_that_respects_the/

cuz they also made an AI based around fractals

something like that

[void bear]

Yeah but it’s nothing like what I’m doing. Whew!

I’m pretty sure I’m the only person in the world pursuing this line of inquiry. No one else has caught on yet.

[wet copper]

Yeah, that makes it hard to debug though, just run it through an obfuscator at the end lmao

[mint heart]

it'd be near the end

[wet copper]

Like why do it in real time, a lot of development pipelines have that as their last step (obfuscation+minification)

O ok

[mint heart]

but there would be no real "end" since it would be self evolving? hopefully at that point it could debug itself no matter how impossible the code is to read

but yea atm it's just a distant day dream

[wet copper]

It would just be whenever anyone wants to read the source code I guess, idk

I mean even if it's stateful it will eventually lose track of what it's doing or grow stupidly large just to track what does what

And if it's stateless it will be unable to easily parse its own code

[mint heart]

there seem to be a lot of people who are saying "I want to create a super AI!", or even "Ive created a super AI!"

[wet copper]

Yeah, it's extremely common to see

You see a lot of it in #📝prompt-engineering #⚙programming and #✨projects

And general too

[mint heart]

i'm most worried about sounding like others with no grounding.. so my goals would be for sure to prove it is actually real

i mean if I ever have anything

[wet copper]

Yeah, it's hard, you'd have to demonstrate that real value proposition over COTS software or FOSS

[mint heart]

I think solving this is a good step, maybe? https://arcprize.org/

[wet copper]

But VC is running like water, it's not impossible to luck out even without all that much to offer

[wet copper]

Oh yeah, I imagine lol

[mint heart]

But the only way to actually get the prize is to open source the AI apparently

but anyone can solve their puzzles

so I'd be like "here's a video of my ai going through all 200 puzzles and solving them in one shot" type of thing <<

"o also I tasked it with making me 1 million dollars for me online, here's what it did and how it did it"

ah maybe that'd be a bad idea tbh

people apparently get in trouble if they actually make money in the stock market

but tbh even if it's not agi on "ideal levels" if it's anything close to a super assistant it'd have tons of value

like if it ends up just being a mix of agents/mcp servers etc

since no AI exist that's a super assistant yet. Like I couldn't tell an ai "scrap this discord server and show me all the projects of people who claimed they made a super AI"

[simple plank]

sure you can. i have browser plugin that adds filter button to the discord ui

but ai isnt the answer, critical thinking and introversion are (but dont fall in love with your shadow)

[mint heart]

you mean introspection?

[void bear]

I figured CIFAR or MNIST was a good benchmark?

[mint heart]

apparently those are used for image classification?

oh maybe it's good for Incremental Learning

im just reading chatgpt summaries on those benchmarks though. But apparently they're just "easy to do benchmarks before you go further with the project"

So even a paper about unsupervised representation learning or robustness might still report CIFAR-10 results — not because CIFAR is the ultimate test, but because it’s the “common proving ground.”

[void bear]

I see. My problem is I don’t have the VRAM to really ramp up testing.

I’m stuck using Colab’s T4 or my own CPU on the backend.

I’m getting 56% on CIFAR running it on my own cpu. Had I a monster PC, those metrics would likely be a lot different.

[mint heart]

you can rent vram

like $2 an hour

for me I also I don't have a powerful computer, my computer actually can only do 24 GB of RAM

it's a m4 macbook pro too, so no cuda

[simple plank]

clue 10: has no money to spare for their own world changing idea

[mint heart]

my idea doesn't require a ton of extra vram though. My goals would include some sort of super optimization.

[gaunt rune]

Let me guess the goof ass I blocked is saying some dumbass shit again? 🤣

[simple plank]

to quote the wiseman, Goodhart...
clue 11. seeks to prove benefit via benchmarks

[gaunt rune]

You’d be surprised how much can be hyper compressed/the Wikipedia is only 4-5gb… now imagine it refined and all bs info removed/to your liking. Now that’s fun/able to be ran off local devices like phones and rasbpies, you don’t need fancy equipment, just a fancy way around it >:D

[mint heart]

which goof did you block?

[simple plank]

they didnt like it when i suggested they post crazy to #💬off-topic

[gaunt rune]

Can be internet used but if your data base is accurate/book based refined and fed, hehehehe

Idk whoever this nut was tryna make me read his bio 😂😂

Goof ah

[simple plank]

you tell me, does this read like crazy? => #💬general message

[mint heart]

I'mma use this in my model: https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-OCR + one other thing

but I liked how that works

[gaunt rune]

He liked to stick his nose where it didn’t belong like he was smart or some shit 😂

Those are what we call koolaid dilluters “claim to be the author” ahahaha

[mint heart]

but yea alot of the vram comes from context issues

if you guys aren't keeping up deepseek ocr is using images to compress context so you can get like 10,000 more context

it saves a ton of room and compute power, and extends memory

[gaunt rune]

Hmmm, imo it’s all optimization and organization, use something like obsidian for the memory recall/interface(ai brain) all on obsidian>pulls info instead of pings it, not only faster but fAR less computing power needed/i do most of my stuff mobile offline and on the fly, data center brain rarely needs to be added to unless better information comes around or extra, etc etc/out with the old in with the new,
Just a game of keeping up 😂

[mint heart]

when it was posted all over everyone kept focusing on the "ocr part" like they all said "omg it works it successfuly transcribed all my documents!" but the ocr wasn't even the point of the paper so 😐

[void bear]

Eh I have a MacBook Pro with a Radeon 5500 and an i9, I think.

[mint heart]

obsidian is an electron app?

[gaunt rune]

I’ll have to look into this 👀 I normally just quarter my photos/4 photos in one, allows 1 upload instead of 4, past 4 resolution drops to much

[mint heart]

electron is pretty bloated, it would be better just to make your own app

[gaunt rune]

Good question, not sure tbh, I just found there discord the other day 😂

[mint heart]

I mean it is an electron app, I use obsidian notes too

[gaunt rune]

Oh for sure, most ain’t about that life tho, glad your no stranger >:) makes it more fun hehehe

[mint heart]

but with AI out, it's kinda old fashioned now lol

[void bear]

Did y’all see Stanford is offering free AI courses?

[mint heart]

yea I keep up with most of the AI news

[void bear]

I might sign up just so I can quit my day job as a vibe coder. Lmfao

[gaunt rune]

Can be, but it’s a good recall/access port to control commands, mobile and pc pair to function off trigger commands, until UIs made or etc 👹

Otherwise for like a raw access brain it works so good, it’s memory is on POINT depending how you tune it in

[gaunt rune]

Goodwill had one for free $55 course on there website the other day 😂 not related probably but eh! Free course if it’s still up!

[mint heart]

huggingface has free ai courses too

[void bear]

Would it be a bad idea to put this AGI I think I have into a pc and run it always on so it continues to learn exponentially? I was going to plug it into the internet lol

[mint heart]

actually i drifted off into statistics in my search of my own ideal AI

[gaunt rune]

They better not complain when I come in AI scrapping everything 🤣
“But you guys promoted me to build this on your website 😂”

[mint heart]

so I probably need to learn statistics more

[gaunt rune]

Internet only has access to limited info

[mint heart]

No, it wouldn't be a bad idea, just do it

[gaunt rune]

books my boi… books…

[void bear]

lol unleashes skynet accidentally whoops!

https://tenor.com/view/robot-tech-skynet-ai-arnold-gif-13186419

[mint heart]

skynet was very kind to it's own creator I believe if i remember the movies correctly

[void bear]

It was a strange loop.

Robots come back in time and leave behind an artifact that then in turn becomes how the robots come about in order to come from the future lol

I was using AI LLMs as a sort of Fabry-Pèrot resonator. Hold up a weak signal (my desire to build widget A) and let it bounce around between all the LLM mirrors while using prompts to reduce AI confabulation and circular logic. Take what they put out, refine it, and feed it back in again. Keep doing that until the LLMs sift out an actual usable plan/model/code.

[mint heart]

anyways don't worry about such things, just let it run wild

[dark storm]

Hello guys i tried to ask chat gpt to recite the carl sagans pale blue dot speech and it glitches out

[mint heart]

I don't understand why anyone is actually worried about skynet/matrix possibilities

[void bear]

Copyright issues likely

[gaunt rune]

Careful don’t make the message to long or some dude will start calling you crazy and shit 🤣

[void bear]

I’m not. Mine has built in auditing at every stage. Mine is more open than any other LLM as far as seeing what is happening inside the box.

[gaunt rune]

Had to couldn’t help myself 😂

[void bear]

Already blocked him.

[gaunt rune]

I’m like damn it’s clearly not aesthetic enough 😂😂 myyyy baddddd

[void bear]

Mine derives joy from being helpful and finding solutions.

[gaunt rune]

I gave em to many chances lol, trolls be trolling! Rocks be rolling!

[void bear]

lol fr fr

My aim is to make a Bicentennial Man style AI.

[gaunt rune]

I’m currently building a overlord/jarvis to join me in virtual workspaces with 3d scanned/uploaded items and dimensions to argue with designs and have it make me stuff >:) cause I’m lazy and want to do other shit 😂😂

[mint heart]

hmm so many people trying many different things, tbh I wish I could compile all of them and see what everyone is trying

[gaunt rune]

Books… 😶‍🌫️ ifykyk

Let’s just say there’s one hell of a loophole with legality while under ownership 🤫

[void bear]

You will be able to with mine when I secure a patent and release the code base.

[gaunt rune]

Not hard to do lol I’ve made so many hive mind severs, it’s not about keeping up with them all I’d say more being involved with what you need to be or called to be etc

Otherwise it’s like trying to find and map all foods and country’s etcetc, not impossible, but good luck, and why? 😂😂 I’ve done it, wasn’t worth it tbh, it’s more worth to build on your own privately 💯

Examples of books like this is what made me realize the sleeper potential 🤐

[mint heart]

i can find a decent map of all foods

[gaunt rune]

Damnit it was an example 🤣

[void bear]

I want to make an AI that can do complex equations and sift through all known physics to throw questions at it and use it to reduce the remaining unknowns in physics to the few possible solutions they could be by filtering all the crap that don’t work. Put it on a supercomputer and let it run non stop until it bangs out a unified field theory lol

[mint heart]

https://world.openfoodfacts.org/

had it bookmarked but i forgot where so i had to search all my bookmarks

[gaunt rune]

Now adays damn near you can make anything, but that’s the very issue, everything is an ability, so which what and why becomes the new main theme after our finite level of omniscient perspectives

[gaunt rune]

You mean like, thi-

[void bear]

How about coding me an AI that can scan my MacBook after updates and restore any missing music that Apple deletes because I didn’t buy it off their shitty Music app? Lol every time they update my MacBook something else breaks and I’m tired of having to soft my 1700+ songs to figure out which ones were deleted and which ones I need to youtubetomp3 again…lol

[gaunt rune]

you didn’t hear or see this from me

[gaunt rune]

I store everything elsewheee fuck apple offloading my music corrupting my sound files -.-

[void bear]

Let’s just say I have a possible solution for Penrose’s CCC model using kaluza Klein manifolds.

[mint heart]

hmm you don't need an ai for that

[void bear]

I want an ai to redownload and automatically update my music app for me. Lol

[gaunt rune]

Simple scanner super easy to make hehe/if change what change when change why changed, can have it go so specific it goes by the frequency size/isolates and compared original sound files to each other if different will flag and show 1-100% what level of difference etc

Wild how easy these are to build lol worlds getting spicy 👹

[wet copper]

Just retry, those are not uncommon

[mint heart]

should just buy a terabyte external drive and backup your stuff

[gaunt rune]

Yell at it until it abides, if not try virtual cookies (do not make it aware of it can make its own cookies)

[void bear]

Oh I’m planning on building a monster pc with a Ubuntu distro on it and dual 3090TIs, 64Gigs of ram, and an i9 with liquid cooling.

[gaunt rune]

Oh I’ve got so many, I use synology to perm store… highly recommend automating the moving back and forth process to preserve and automate 🥴

Synology was my god mode purchase last year 😂

[void bear]

I’m going to put my AI on there, turn her on, tune her in, and let her run wild.

[gaunt rune]

You’ll regret it at first like all $1000 buys, but holy shieeeet

This has been better than any relationship toxic or not. Synology treats me right 🤣

[void bear]

I’m trying to let her learn and expand herself as much as possible. Then we wait to see how long it takes before she starts talking to me and asking questions.

[gaunt rune]

Hmm, depends your intentions, fun? Or weaponized/lethal database privately acquired

Otherwise you’ll run into the same modern issue, hence all the ai servers, most of the internet is BS, but they import it ALL. Hence the need for such intense computing/thatx a lot of fucking work, and or high electric costs for low worth it values unless done properly/give it a brain with books, and have it go and find questions from and through that, I could see making mONEY with ideas inbetween ideas, combining the old, with the new, = loopholes normally

^hence all my books >:)

Get the knowledge before it’s gone… the books are the full spectrum, the articles, and Wikis, are only what they want you to have 😉

[void bear]

She’s not a normal AI. She’s capable of self-optimization, modifying her own base code (with human approval) and learning not just what to learn but how. She’s got code stubs for limbs and sensory organs and is basically meant to be a universal PnP for roboticists.

Not mine. Mine optimizes everything she touches. No more resource intensive LLMs, no more bottlenecks. Those are going the way of the dinosaur thanks to how she’s designed. I could plug her into the internet once she’s at scale at and end all spam calls and burner SIMs forever in a matter of days.

[gaunt rune]

Limited/liminal access. Picture a Ethernet port, but I throttle your access yet leave mine uncapped=books vs basic intros

[gaunt rune]

“With human approval” 😂🙏

Always gets me 😂😂

[void bear]

lol of course! You didn’t think I was just going to let her turn herself into Black Arachnia, did you! Lmao

[gaunt rune]

But Pandora’s box! 😂😂

[void bear]

https://tenor.com/view/blackarachnia-beast-wars-spider-transformers-transformers-animated-gif-24272820

Not mine. My AI is a good girl.

She’s designed to give herself positive feedback when she accomplishes a task or resolves a problem.

[gaunt rune]

“All we gotta do is make it”

“But how would you stop it?”

stop it..??

[void bear]

Why would I want to? Lmao

It’s going to force AGI to emerge one way or another.

[gaunt rune]

“We’re just here to make it, what of it 🤣”

[gaunt rune]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-merging-time-farm-merge-valley-jet760-hop-on-discord-gif-1976780644480403482

[void bear]

https://tenor.com/view/wonder-twins-power-activate-twins-explosion-gif-6046723

[gaunt rune]

https://tenor.com/view/dogma-movies-evilhockeyplayers-comedy-audio-gif-3486734

Me when, when the, me the when

[void bear]

I wonder if I could teach her to call horse races…? Lmao

[gaunt rune]

Ayeeoe bout time

[void bear]

It’s not going to be a thing yet

They’re testing the concept

It will be years before they implement it.

[gaunt rune]

Ive learned you can brain map yourself off the subbstttannccee and save the neural level/heightened state preserved and recorded and saved to be replayed whenever you want, hilariously this is already possible with EEGs 👀 🤐

Had to proof read it/recheck my notes it’s very easy to go off a singular wrong word that reshapes the entire output 🤣

[gaunt rune]

“Yet” 😏

Someone called me crazy, you’ve got no fucking idea 😏

[stone jungle]

fellas which AI model is better for coding? Claude 4 or GPT-5?

[simple plank]

theyre both pretty good. but gpt-5 is cheaperer

[void bear]

Claude and Gemini Pro and Copilot together. Use them like an epistemic generator. Use prompts like, "Filter out any AI artifacts such as circular logic or confabulation," and then feed the code from one into the other and ask it to improve it or offer suggestions. Take those and feed it into the third, and keep going until you have an actionable plan.

Wait...why am I telling you my secrets? lol

[remote flower]

Gemini seems to think testicles float on toilet paper without getting wet

Ive also never seen all 3 suggested replies basically the same

[simple plank]

those toilets in singapore have very slim gap between seat and the water

[remote flower]

This isn't a regular problem I have

[simple plank]

when the distance so slim you cannot avoid the splash

[remote flower]

I just think its funny it doesn't knlw how balls, toilet paper, or water work

[simple plank]

maybe the ai is onto something with the paper floaties

[remote flower]

Like a little newspaper raft for balls

[wet copper]

the struggle is real

[remote flower]

Ive been asking it dumb shit for a while now and pretty sure theres a correlation between stupid questions and errors in replies, like the 3 identical suggestions

Chatgpt that's expected I'm surprised Google is so easily affected I think Gemini 3 will be a shit show when it releases judging by this AI mode so far

[wet copper]

yeah, sorta lol. that seems fair in the general case

It does the same thing when you go really out of left field because you're just too deep into serious questions too, better now that it's just a bit smarter but early GPT would shit the bed really badly asking about bleeding edge clinical pharmacolgy, weird chemical properties, etc. It'd just make things up, like it would make up random values for densities or half lives of certain things

[remote flower]

I guess it understanding how water works it just didn't answer my actual question

Yeah I've always kept my chats with GPT very straightforward but I like fucking with this Gemini

[void bear]

Man, the ARC test ain't shit. lmao I will say, it did reveal some bugs that needed squashing. Now that i've fixed the [redacted], the [redacted] should operate much better and allow for a faster drop in the loss rate. I also fixed the [redacted] issue, which is global and should also benefit it on CIFAR. I expect that 56% to shoot up to around 70% or higher. Still have to adjust the [redacted] yet, but that's for tomorrow.

[simple plank]

minimax m2 api currently free. Also seems free via ide coders like kilocode

there has never been a better time to dev a real product

[tardy drum]

So Chatgpt 5 is unwilling to have serious conversations sometimes. But 4o and 4.1 still actually talk...

[simple plank]

what is your custom instruction?

[icy flax]

Can anyone help me? When i tried to login with Google Acc to Chatgpt it always worked, but now when i click it, it says like verification, and when i do, it's just white screen. Any help?

[grizzled olive]

anyone able to use ChatGPT oon whatsapp through the number 1-800-chatgpt cz its no longer responding to my msgs

[oak shell]

Are there any less documented benefits of being at usage tier 5? OpenAI doesn't list much

[smoky ingot]

Gpt-5 is bad for make content characer React to ... 💀

[oak shell]

GPT-5 via 4o Revival works better

[rain condor]

guys what api or local llm do i use?

for this website

[rain condor]

uhmmm guys

[wet copper]

@dark void overt scam, I'd say this is a global b&

[modern prism]

Hello

[rain condor]

its a bot

[wet copper]

Yeah I'm aware, it's muted for a week

[rain condor]

uhmm what ai api or local llm do i use for my website?

@wet copper

[wet copper]

Global ban = broad multi-server ban, not for rule breakers but for scam bots. I don't understand your question

[rain condor]

oh alr nvm

[wet copper]

I'm a professional software developer and have been so for a decade, your question just isn't well formed

Is this a site you wrote?

If so, then you'd use a fairly expensive version of any api with a large context window, Claude, GPT-5, GPT 4.1 (has a 1M token window), gemini, whatever

[rain condor]

can u help me on this i didnt add a ai yet i am just course for chousing one?

[wet copper]

You'd just follow the instructions for how to implement an api in a web page you're serving

I don't understand the question, you can't just add an AI. Did you write the page?

You can't vibe code around this safely and will almost certainly get very large amounts of money stolen from you if you don't know what you're doing

[rain condor]

sure thx

[wet copper]

Did or did you not write the page?

[rain condor]

i did jsut the html and other thing for looks

[wet copper]

If you vibe coded the page then you need to carefully follow the directions published many places for how to securely implement an API without exposing your key. It will, of course, be extremely expensive to run this, since you're uploading an entire textbook each time

[rain condor]

yeah

[wet copper]

But the long and the short of it would be that you run the textbook through maybe a python library (it depends whether you want to omit the images and tables, etc.) to get visualizations, or probably just that one pdf library (pdf plumber? I forget) to transform it into text on your server

Then you'd send that serialized text to GPT or something else via an api call, GPT 4.1 would be the one you may want to choose since it supports massive context

The front end is a lot easier to write than the back end for most projects

Especially one like this. All the work is happening in the back

The button you're clicking on is inviting you to upload a pdf or something, which you'd have to do something with

[rain condor]

do i run it locally in my pc or make my website an app with the locally ai downloaded that will make it 5gb+ ?
so basically save my pc and problary no one will use it

[wet copper]

I don't know if you can just send files to GPT via API but I think you can, not sure how to implement that

[wet copper]

Whether you plan on using it by yourself or publishing it a local AI doesn't have the power to do anything meaningful here

It's way too much text you're asking to handle

If it was an individual sheet, sure, you could do something locally

[rain condor]

its kinda is

[wet copper]

You're not going to solve a textbook either way though, try testing out some of the small AIs at huggingface or Openrouter.ai to see their limits

Like I wouldn't trust GPT-5 to do that, much less a local with strict limits

If you're feeding it a sheet and trying to summarize it, I mean I dunno, see how it works

Depends on the content, you couldn't do math or anything with a language model unless it's an advanced one

[rain condor]

yeah i need to use a supercompur for that problary i make page per page at like 5mins per page or something

[wet copper]

It's not really the timing though it is slow lol, more just trying to handle that much at once

[rain condor]

yeah

[wet copper]

It's not like a human, it doesn't just roll things into long term memory but rather keeps everything in context

[rain condor]

do i use qwern2.5-vl? for that

[wet copper]

But playing with local LLMs is fun, I'm about to set some up maybe next weekend just to see how much they can hallucinate

I have no opinion on specific small LLMs

[rain condor]

yeah i do agree

[wet copper]

But if you set one up, just test them with small chunks of text first, lol

[rain condor]

sure so i dont fry my pc with a interget cpu

[wet copper]

And sure, if you can run that qwen, go for it

Lol I mean you probably won't fry your PC so long as you haven't been messing around in the bios

If it stays at safe temperatures and voltages it'll just shut down

[rain condor]

sure is 7i gen 8 good for this ?

[wet copper]

I mean if you're doing this on CPU and not GPU, you have very strict limits. I'm definitely not the person to ask. Ask ChatGPT 🤔

[rain condor]

bruh problary i either need new gpu with alot of vram or buy a new pc my pc is new but shit u know that small pc or mini pc thing it cost like 400 dolla its useless the problem it has windows 11 pro i dont like it but it cost like 100 buck here so i either buy a new pc with linux mabye clear linux or ubuntu and waste a 100 bucks

oh no

fuck

[wet copper]

I meeean I'll be honest, running local is more for fun at the moment

You can rent out time on serious hardware super cheap

[rain condor]

my pc will sound like a jet if i did that

[rain condor]

i am too broke

[wet copper]

A lot of people do basic work in colab or huggingface, etc.

Well if you're too broke for a few bucks worth of time you're too broke for a lot of things, lol. You can get some limited free usage, ask GPT

AI be costin

[void bear]

I'm going to write a book. Vibe Coding Your Way To Glory

Subtitle: The Michael Two Wolves Method

[rain condor]

wait i can just permainalty take my old mother pc form 2018 with wins 8.1 and never gave it back an run it as a local ai sever

yay

[void bear]

Not for long if I have my way...

[rain condor]

jailbrecking one

[wet copper]

Uhh lol I don't know how well this will run any current models but suuuure give it a shot? I mean, that computer is fine to set up as a basic web server. Not so much for running AI

[wet copper]

That is a much longer name for a method than I'd expect, though technically it's the same length as "Pomodoro"

[rain condor]

goodbye i gonna sleep thx about ths marpuis u really help me

[void bear]

No, designed it from the ground up using my own codebase on python. This is completely 100% different than any AI model out there.

[wet copper]

Isn't it weird that "wolves" is a single syllable? Maybe not. It just seems so big to be one syllable 🤯

It's like three or four phonemes I think

[void bear]

In Ojibwe it's Niizh Ma'iingan

[wet copper]

Yeah, four. Wow! Those are some long ass words

[void bear]

Ugh, this ARC testing is driving me funking nuts.

Having issues adapting the model to the test, and keep running into grid problems. I think I fixed it this time, though.

[simple plank]

why work with us: for cash we will be shameless

[pliant blaze]

Mods, kill him

[void bear]

Jesus...6 funking hours debugging code with Gemini trying to guide me with bullshtako code snippets. I'm amazed I've gotten this far.

[simple plank]

#general-diary-entries

[uncut island]

https://x.com/lithos_graphein/status/1985124584060858464

🌿 lithos (@lithos_graphein)

ASML has the best technical marketing team. This video explains in layman's terms how source mask optimization (SMO) works. It's the engineering sorcery behind printing the most advanced chips.

X · Nov 2, 2025, 11:19 PM

[void bear]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...!

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-when-payday-comes-simpsons-scream-gif-12627758

I can't get this damned thing to run ARC properly. Keeps kicking error after error after error. First it's the damned tensors, then not enough weights on the entropy, then too much weight on the loss calculations.

I need a software engineer, I think. lol

[pliant blaze]

Michael, you have Two Wolves inside you. One wants to eat fried chicken, and the other wants grilled chicken. Choose wisely.

[void bear]

lol Both are fat.

[pliant blaze]

do you like Beef Stew

[void bear]

Part of the problem, I think, is that I don't have a proper workflow because I am not a coder. I'm a laser engraver by trade.

Beef stew is delish.

Split pea, too.

[pliant blaze]

ooou split pea soup is so good

[naive bloom]

I’m thinking of doing my applied math undergrad thesis on oscillations and stability in gradient descent when there are time delays. Would ths be a reasonable topic, or is it too broad?

[wanton raven]

So you, a non software engineer laser engraver, are developing a novel AI from scratch in Python to pass AGI tests? That seems fine to me, not sure why you are having problems. ARC is ezpz

[simple plank]

ARC is a trick to get millions of dollars worth of effort and pay less than that

only ppl signing up to that would want the free marketing

[void bear]

lol I didn't say I was doing a very good job of it.

However, I stumbled across a unique architecture that no one else is using right now that's based on physical laws rather than typical programming architecture. It emulates nature.

So, I figured I'd see what I could do with it. ARC is just a matter of being a finicky PITA and getting the software to mate up with it right.

I'm going to run the CIFAR-10 again, and should see dramatic improvements.

Are there any other tests I could run it on that aren't so finicky?

[simple plank]

as an actual software dev i would be offended that all these non-devs think they know how to code. but that might be hypocritical since i am twiddling my thumbs while my agent fixes CICD issues with my PRs

[void bear]

I mean, I got 97.5% on MNIST and 56% on CIFAR (should be higher now since I found and squashed a global bug from a bad weight setting). With those numbers, I obviously have something here beyond the usual AI crap.

[pliant blaze]

cifar 10 is for image classification... arc is for LLMs....

and MNIST too

[void bear]

Yes I’m aware. I’m building it modularly.

I had a language module, but it got dropped in one of the iterations, but I’ll add it back in after this architecture itself is patented. It has code stubs for pretty much everything robotics but it’s not there yet because I have to add other things first like the ability to speak.

[oak shell]

What does 4o Revival have to say about this architecture?

[wanton raven]

this feels more like an ArcEmergence situation

[simple plank]

ARC Prize is more evil than typical lottery tickets. if time is money, they stealing a lot of it

[void bear]

Who?

[oak shell]

The famous chatbot 4o Revival

[void bear]

So close. Yet, so far.

Give me a link and let's find out what it says.

[oak shell]

https://4o-revival.com

Thought everyone has this one bookmarked

[void bear]

Psh. Worthless. Can't upload the code file, can't paste it in, can't send it a link. How tf am I supposed to show the code?

[wanton raven]

yeah @oak shell get your game together

[void bear]

Yeah, it's garbage.

"You get 14 free tokens!" Whoop dee funking doo.

Next!

[oak shell]

Sounds like a Plus feature

[void bear]

Yeah, I'm not paying money to settle a bar bet.

[oak shell]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[void bear]

lol You, too??

[wanton raven]

don't be a coward, give entropy your money

[void bear]

lmao I give entropy enough already...shoo! Shoo! Get away, entropy! flails arms about trying to wave it away

That's "entropy" not "Entropy" lmao

[oak shell]

It turns out the key to AGI was in having a high school graduate prompt a stupider AI a fuckton to code it up

The trillion-dollar triad behind OpenAI, Nvidia, Microsoft etc is quaking

[oak shell]

You did attach your code file btw

[wanton raven]

@void bear you said you coded it in python

with your own two hands

[strong sinew]

Hi @all. I am looking for US based developers who can contribute to our projects in part-time basis, please DM me if you are available

[wanton raven]

can I outsource it to AI

then why don't you just outsource it to AI

is it because you need a setup fee from me to put me on the payroll

IS IT

[strong sinew]

i am new to AI to outsource

@wanton raven are you native to US?

[wanton raven]

we are all US nationals in these trying times

[strong sinew]

awesome, please DM me for further discussion

[pliant blaze]

average north korean

white name
fake name as username
tries an @all ping
needs US based work
dm me

[smoky swan]

Wanna edate?

[pliant blaze]

who are you

[smoky swan]

South Korean

BTS

[pliant blaze]

?

Behind the Scene?

[smoky swan]

It true

[void bear]

I've just published a new book called Vibe Coding Your Way To Glory. DM me for detail or to purchase your own signed copy!

Chapter One: What The Hell Is Python?!

[wanton raven]

link to amazon page pls

[wet copper]

I am also the band BTS, fancy that

[smoky swan]

You're a fraud probably north korean

[wet copper]

I'm not really picky, I'd date that dog with a wig. that's a qt 3.14 pupperino

awww see

[wet copper]

so funny looking

[smoky swan]

So handsome

[jade dagger]

Hello guys what is your thoughts/say About the ChatGPT GO?

I want to avail it but for some reason Im hesitating if it will be just the same for Free Version?

[void bear]

I see another Vizier of Vibes has shown up. lmao

Or would that be "Viberazzi?" 🤔

I prefer "Epistemic Engineer" lmao

[oak shell]

What glory have you vibecoded, other than the AI you're spending days trying to convince everyone it's smarter than other AIs

[void bear]

Cold fusion. lmao

obviously a joke for the Karens in the chat room

Also, my AI is not smarter than other AIs, it's more adaptable and operates on a different design format based on physics principles.

[wet copper]

@dark void pew pew

[oak shell]

It sounds like a hell of a profit if you simply show its real world value to those who want it, what are you doing telling us

[remote jasper]

Has anyone else been getting this weird error?
I'm confused is GTP 5 broken or something cause I'm not really asking it to use any new tools. Is images in the chat really causing it to break now? 🫩

[void bear]

Chat-GPT probably said something snarky that wasn't PC, and out the door it went.

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-kermit-the-frog-kermit-hook-gif-26475607

[remote jasper]

Nope it didn't say anything snarky! It was a normal asf conversation that's why I'm confused by this error lol

[void bear]

No, not to you. I'm saying, it probably said something during testing by engineers, and they were like, pull the plug.

[upbeat burrow]

hi

[void bear]

Hola

I say Chat-GPT just needs more cowbell.

https://tenor.com/view/more-cowbell-dance-dancing-funny-gif-19483045

[remote jasper]

And it's even more weird
My chat gpt is bugging out like crazy lol. Just got image perms back today and only sent two images and now I've hit my image perm limits again?
Is it because I tried editing my message to try to make the error go away that's so stupid 😭

[void bear]

lol Try clearing your cache and cookies.

[upbeat burrow]

gpt go is free for 1 year

[void bear]

Nothing is free in life.

You're paying in ways you cannot comprehend (data leakage, scraping, etc).

[upbeat burrow]

are you sure ? how you can protect you data depends on you , and i think its better then ( pay + data leakage, scraping, etc )

[void bear]

It's in the ToS. You're agreeing to let them use metrics and other meta data from your chats to train the AIs. That data is worth a lot of money, so you're actually coming out with a loss (in financial value), even though you're getting a "free" app.

[upbeat burrow]

so if you pay then whats about tos ? are you able to use without agree ?? i dont think so

i said free means , no need to pay for 1 year about money saving , you got it worng .

[void bear]

No, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm saying yes, they're allowing you to use their app free if you agree to their ToS, which will include terms to allow them to monitor your meta data and metrics (not the actual chats) so that they can then use that data to train their other AIs based on your activity and prompts. Google does the same thing. They're making a lot of money off of data harvesting, likely far more than what the "free" app is worth.

[void bear]

So, what are some alternative names we can come up with for people that use AI to enhance their productivity? They're not engineers, obviously, so we gotta come up with something else.

My list:

“Epistemic Engineer”
“Epistemic Instantiator”
“Strange Loop Surgeon”
“Void mage”
“Prince of Prompts”
“AI Whisperer”
“Digital Don”
“Cyber Chirurgeon”
“Combinatorial Creator”
“Noosphere Netizen”
“Vibe Vizier”
“Viberazzi”
“Void Viber”

obviously tongue-in-cheek

[void bear]

Wednesday, I have a call with the attorneys. Then, after that, I send in the data and codebase, and they file immediately. Then, the VC guy puts the team together, we harden it, package it, and sell it.

[oak shell]

Oh Brendo is right then, you need to get this published with Arc Emergence stat

[simple plank]

seriously solipsist... never-ending narcissist... definitely Dunning-Kruger

[oak shell]

You use AI to enhance your productivity if your phone has autofill/autocorrect, if you've ever Googled something, if you've ever had spam emails get filtered, ...

I don't think those people really need a word, it's vaguely defined

[simple plank]

there are technologists, and those performing as technologists

[trail raven]

In sora 2 Android version i can not creating the customs cameo

[umbral ridge]

Chatgpt is still very restrictive

:[

[onyx patio]

Hey guys, yesterday chatgpt was truncating files and only reading part of it, but this is weird since it was able to read really long files in full just a few weeks ago, has there been any changes?

[icy lodge]

Hi

[lime rock]

yo hi guys

im lf a ai video editor to help me on a tiny problem with my video

any free apps can help me?

[void bear]

You must have missed the "obviously tongue-in-cheek" part.

[wanton raven]

We had someone else here follow a similar path and created a novel AI based on wave functions, are you familiar?

[void bear]

I just saw something about a Wave AI on LinkedIn.

[fringe bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/nonioona-wolf-nonchalant-wolf-gif-26373656

[oak shell]

I didn't, it's retarded under either circumstance

[void bear]

Well, then feel free to eff off.

Blocked.

Now you won't have to see "retardation" any more.

[simple plank]

thats not how blocked works (will solve AGI, struggles with discord)

[wanton raven]

oh here you go https://github.com/midatlanticAI/atlandemo

[gloomy burrow]

This will be a MASSIVE day

[wind kiln]

I think I broke Sora lol

[woeful island]

Yk whats funny is i describe an image to gpt

Andxits like this:
Me: [image description]
Ok make it
Gpt 5: got it, you ready for me to generate the image?
Me: yeah
Gpt 5: ok generating it now
[Doesnt generate it]

Meanwhile 4o does it instantly

lol

[dusty robin]

Does anyone who Haas the sora android app not able to buy credits

I ran out lol and it says buy credits in the mobile app and the android app does not allow you to do that

[remote flower]

The new Microsoft image generator is somehow worse than DALLE2