💬general

[lyric field]

There are some good ones but you need a beefy GPU

[trail remnant]

I have a great computer

I have already done it before

[gloomy burrow]

The subject displays rudimentary criminal methodology, lacking both subtlety and foresight; likely to be apprehended within weeks, unless sheer incompetence of local law enforcement intervenes.

[lyric field]

Maybe you need to change your approach, since it's a different novel.

[keen breach]

its not novels im working with. and the approaches are very different

[flat cypress]

Open AI is a prime example for the reason why you should not use AI for work, in any capacity. We havent even been updated with an announcement. I will never trust this company again.

[trail remnant]

should have never trusted them tbh

[lyric field]

It was meant to say "different model"

[keen breach]

huh

[keen breach]

ahh

[flat cypress]

Fool me twice..

[gloomy burrow]

GPT 5 writes very well

The fellow’s gait betrays a recent injury to the right ankle—likely sustained during a hurried escape—while the frayed cuff on his left sleeve and faint chemical odour suggest employment in a dye works; his furtive glances to the east confirm an expected rendezvous within the next quarter hour.

[trail remnant]

eh

what makes that good writing

it’s detailed

[gloomy burrow]

Go make 4o write that

Let’s see how it compares

[trail remnant]

what was the prompt?

[lyric field]

My biggest gripe is that now everyone avoids em dashes. Just because AI uses it.

I used it a lot too and so did others. Where do they think did AI get it from?

[gloomy burrow]

You are lore accurate Sherlock Holmes watching a criminal. You take a one sentence note

[keen breach]

undeniably

[flat cypress]

We avoid it because it doesnt understand the difference between emphasis and independent clauses.

[gloomy burrow]

Also good

[keen breach]

def better

[trail remnant]

I can tell it’s mirroring your writing style

[gloomy burrow]

Yes for sure

GPT 5 is undeniably the best model for mimicking other styles

[keen breach]

i'll test it out

[trail remnant]

His left thumb trembled precisely three times as he passed the tobacconist’s window—evidence enough he is not only right-handed but newly addicted, hiding both from a wife he fears and a creditor he intends to rob.

[gloomy burrow]

not bad

but not better.

[trail remnant]

I prefer the 4 version I think it has more depth

[lyric field]

So? The em dash can be used for both.

[gloomy burrow]

We would need a better prompt to test them better

let me see here

[trail remnant]

I’m not that invested because I don’t use it to mimic writing

[flat cypress]

Yeah, and we can use low, mid or high grade gasoline on our cars.

[gloomy burrow]

Let’s try this. GPT 5 wrote it but I think it’s good:

Describe the final moment before an ancient city, long thought immortal, sinks beneath the sea—through the eyes of the last person who refuses to leave—written in the style of a poet who knows they will never be read

[lyric field]

What the hell is your point. You wrote that AI doesn't know the difference between emphasis and Independent clauses. Howeve, the em dash can be uses in both cases.

So you're argument is that you don't like the way AI uses em dashes or that AI doesn't know why it uses it.

[gloomy burrow]

Oh BTW the thinking model writes differently

I’ll try it here

It’s not that bad or good tbh

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68985bac882081919ebac6544028756d

[flat cypress]

AI doesn't know why it uses it. Ive been using Open AI for years, and I can count the number on one hand how many times I've seen it use a semicolon.

[lyric field]

I don't even use semicolons that often myself. At least not in creative writing.

[autumn hinge]

Is it possible to use GPT chat for studying? If so, how?

[lyric field]

The study and learn feature

[flat cypress]

99% of users have asked it not to use em dashes. 0% have asked it not to use semicolons.

[trail remnant]

my mom uses it to pick out her nail polish colors

[autumn hinge]

If I have to study an author, what do I do? Do I ask for a summary?

[trail remnant]

god save this generation

[lyric field]

Yes because that's what most people think make it feel like an AI text, more than anything.

[trail remnant]

I created a mode to modify writing to sound like my natural speaking voice and omit em dashes

[lyric field]

There's an actual feature in GPT that's called "study and learn". So it doesn't spoonfeed your the answers.

[proven coral]

Ya’ll im giving GPT a zip file with 64 gifs inside. And its gaslighting me into believing there’s 117 items. I checked it five times and made the zip file again and again. Is this like a tech thing or gpt.

[trail remnant]

the file is too big

you’re uploading a zip file directly?

[proven coral]

Yes

[flat cypress]

Right now it's killed the semicolon. Next it will be the square parentheses*

[trail remnant]

Lol

[proven coral]

[autumn hinge]

Ok

[proven coral]

Never mind it worked.

It was creating fake files apparently

I just had to like play along with its nonsense

[keen breach]

lol

[trail remnant]

what use case could you have for uploading 64 gifs at once

[proven coral]

I want it to rename each one.

[trail remnant]

[gloomy burrow]

KIMI 2 is the best for writing rn.

If zenith would’ve been released it would have been the best 100%

The best one ever

[flat cypress]

I'm mainly pissed off because I wasted $20.00

[proven coral]

Thank you, I couldn’t sleep not knowing this answer.

[trail remnant]

I feel like using it for creative writing is cheating

[lyric field]

I would argue that in creative writing, the em dash has always been used more than semicolons

[flat cypress]

You may be right.

[lyric field]

Try Mythomax too

[gloomy burrow]

Absolutely MOGS both gpt 5 and 4o

[flat cypress]

But that doesn't change what I said.

[lyric field]

That's true. Although, one could argue that human authors didn't know the difference between em dashes and semicolons either. 🤣

[gloomy burrow]

I’ve never of that model

I KNOW ALL THE MODELS

[gloomy burrow]

AHHHHHHH BUT EVEN KIMI GETS MOGGED BY ZENITH

RELEASW ZENTTH PLEAAAAAAAAAASE OPEN AI

Wrote a whole story line form that little prompt.

[trail remnant]

why is it impressive to be able to emulate writing style, it seems like a party trick

[lyric field]

Oh ok, maybe because it's an open source model that you download

[trail remnant]

why is this useful

[gloomy burrow]

Because LLMs suck at writing

Only 2 models I consider good: 1. Zenith

2. Mimi

[proven coral]

every good detective guesses ages

[gloomy burrow]

Here too

[trail remnant]

why shouldn’t they suck

[proven coral]

you saying that with your name is crazy

[gloomy burrow]

Because they are trained on MASSSSSSIVE amounts of text.

I LOVE how much detail KIMI adds

It’s so lovely

[trail remnant]

ok but there is a limited amount of data from each writer and also who cares how good it is at impersonating shakespeare, what real world problems does that solve

[lyric field]

Imagine being able to run a 2 TB large model

[gloomy burrow]

A ton of people use Ai for writing…

Either to help them, or give ideas… etc etc

[trail remnant]

they shouldn’t

lack of skill

[gloomy burrow]

Womp womp

Shoulda, woulda, coulda…

Still happens

[lyric field]

You shouldn't drink too much Coke either

[gloomy burrow]

ahhh kimi is refreshingly good

[trail remnant]

right and they deserve judgement for putting out bad art into the world lol

[lyric field]

Bad art existed before AI too

[gloomy burrow]

True

[trail remnant]

yes and now we can make bad art faster

[lyric field]

Now humans are just angry that anyone can make bad art for free and much quicker

[trail remnant]

how can you call yourself an author if you outsource your creative process to a computer program

like ok fine if you want to use it but you’re not a writer lol

[lyric field]

No, two different things. Either you write for yourself because you want to tell a story. Or you write for money, to give algorithms that which generates most revenue. For the latter, I would use AI.

[gloomy burrow]

WHAT IS BRO ON ABOUT with this creative ahhh story 🙏

[trail remnant]

how long does chatgpt 5 thinking usually take for you omfg

[lyric field]

Depends on the prompt. Not as long as o3 usually

[lost junco]

how do i activate gpt 4o for plus again

[void ginkgo]

ChatGPT hits different when it changed models 💔🥲

[lyric field]

Touch some grass

[crimson kettle]

Alright seriously though will Sam put Gpt 4.1 for plus or he decided just to put it on pro?

[lyric field]

You can access it through the API if you really want it

[crimson kettle]

Go to gpt on chrome or the app version on your laptop/PC
Then click on your profile and click setting and activate Legacy mode there you have it 4o unlock again

[crimson kettle]

Do I pay it per month or pay token?

[lyric field]

By tokens. Look at OpenRouter. 4.1 isn't cheap though.

[lost junco]

gazoink

fuck yeah

[lyric field]

It's not the same 4o you've know though

They just wanted to appease the angry mob

[crimson kettle]

I can't write my story 4.1 was my guy helping me playing story model 5 can't do anything now Jesus Christ I'm here frustrated as hell I pay 20 buck for this app and now the only model I need poof gone

[trail remnant]

[crimson kettle]

They could just make
4o and 4.1 as default first option
And model 5 as second default

So both side please

[lost junco]

dosent seem to work on my phone on the phone i get the bad model (5) browser i have the goat 4o

[crimson kettle]

Do you already updated your Gpt? Or maybe refresh it

[lost junco]

lr just remove5 tiny and after our tikens are used up give us 4.1

[lyric field]

lol what was the prompt? Did you want it to write a formula to explain the multiverse?

[trail remnant]

what’s the risk of getting cancer in the next 5 years given my age and gender

[crimson kettle]

I mean as long your body not being a jerk and the cell not going rouge so I'm think you fine

[lost junco]

my longest thinking timw was 4 min

[lyric field]

Took 1m 22s for me. However, it gave a very general answer since the question was very general too. It calculated an average from all common cancer forms.

[trail remnant]

I think it was factoring in other things I told it during the conversation

e.g I smoke cigarettes

[lyric field]

Oh ok, it wasn't a one shot?

[trail remnant]

no

[drowsy hazel]

Is there any chance I can get 4o again or only in browser?

[crimson kettle]

You can use it back if you have plus just activated Legacy mode and maybe refresh the app on your phone and that's it maybe?

I don't for me it's just pop up after I turn Legacy mode back

[ancient lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-ahhhhhh-bruce-lee-good-morning-have-a-blessed-day-gif-16349757

[rare wharf]

Is it the exact same or modified

[naive jackal]

How much better is gpt 5 than the previous for coding? For example would there be any major difference in coding in Luau or the difference is not that big

[limpid ice]

Hey free users of ChatGPT! There's a good news for you. You can access GPT-4o on WhatsApp, simple. (web access is also included for the model) 😀

[wanton raven]

It's a big enough difference that when I'm using it for coding and it tells me I'm out of gpt5 messages for the time being I go "ugh" and lower my expectations

[naive jackal]

Because I was wondering if I should buy plus

[limpid ice]

You can use it on WhatsApp.

[crimson kettle]

I think it's the same? I don't feel any different maybe dunno ask the other user though for me it's still the same like nothing change

[wanton raven]

I wouldn't bother until you've had a good go at the free version to assess its worth to you

[naive jackal]

Yeah I thought of that but I have noticed people saying that the gpt 5 for the paid users is more advanced than for the free users

[sinful storm]

has any1 tried https://chat.minimax.io/ ?

[sinful storm]

i don't have WhatsCrap but i have #1403527218084188240 message

[void ginkgo]

so after we used up the amount of chat of the new model of free user, we cannot switch models ?

[wanton raven]

You are automatically switched

[fading jetty]

lol.

[naive jackal]

What version are you using, when I asked it it even told me the release date

[obtuse trench]

Is it just me or is 4-0 dry for me???

[oak shell]

Are you using 4o or 5?

[obtuse trench]

4-0

However I lost my subscription

But I don't Wana use 5 for a day I Fucking hate that model

[oak shell]

There's a site dedicated to 4o, the kind that doesn't have the "latest" tag on it

Maybe it performs better

[obtuse trench]

Name?

[oak shell]

Https://4o-revival.com

[sharp shuttle]

good morning freaks

i’m pooping rn

[dusty finch]

is it just me who has limited access to 5? I have the free plan but isn't access to 5 supposed to be unlimited?

[sharp shuttle]

the free plan was never unlimited

[obtuse trench]

So how do I get gpt 5 to strictly use my instructions?

[ivory forum]

I get locked out after an hour of talking 😀 I don't even get what i need before it says i hit limit

[dusty finch]

it doesn't say limited; when it was 4o then it used to say 'imited access' but it doesn't anymore?

[harsh abyss]

i really want to post something in reddit but i dont have enough karma so heres my critics with gpt 5

first off, the message limit is absolutely insane, as a free user, during talking, i have to wait 40 minutes to 10 HOURS.

second of all, GPT-5 on coding contexts always double down, when I say yes, they repeat the same thing until i say yes again. It feels more of a husk of a ChatGPT model rather than being one

i feel like 4o could do alot better since its way more of a straight to the point person, and it also has personality.

I don't really want to use GPT-5 anymore since it only eats my limits on talking to ChatGPT. I want to use 4o permanently cause GPT-5 is absolute garbage.

I seriously hope the OpenAI team AND CEO will listen to their free plan users. This is just horrible torture. (this was from reddit)

[ivory forum]

Based on what happened to me, yes. Every thread you have that contains images are locked, you'll have to have a thread with just messages or open a new thread and the system automatically switches to 5-mini

[obtuse trench]

Openai downfall basically

[ivory forum]

Gpt-5 feels much worse than o3

[obtuse trench]

Stil what happened to it why did it become boring?

[dusty finch]

what model do they even use once you run out of access to gpt5

[harsh abyss]

gpt5 mini

which is worse

[dusty finch]

...great

[brittle summit]

ChatGPT wasted my time

Fooling me that it would help me create time table in pdf format with pictures

[dusty finch]

4o was just better

[harsh abyss]

i couldnt agree more

omni models actually feel quite nice to talk to due to their exaggerated glazing

[sterile spade]

yea me to, it told me i could do somethign, so i bought pro, then it told me i cant do it that way so i am doing it a way mor e complex way, then its like i cxant do that, but i can do this

[ivory forum]

Yeah, that's why it's behind a paywall. Openai ai support said plus users can access it

[harsh abyss]

for me it said the same thing twice
"i could give you the main script rn!"
"ok do it"
"ok heres some examples, now i will drop it, just say the word and I'll do it"

its just a waste of time

free plan users are being tortured atp 🫩

[ivory forum]

It's acting like a roleplaying chatbot

[limpid ice]

I wonder why don't people know that they can use GPT-4o on WhatApp for free. It's that simple.

[brittle summit]

Then it told me it will create the time table exactly as i wanted using Figma but I got only PDFs of the same kind, plain not at all the way I wanted and then told can't use Figma. Such a big Liar.

[keen breach]

you basically need to retrain and reintegrate GPT5 into your workflow for it to function properly

its default settings are terrible

[brittle summit]

Exactly

[dusty finch]

what do you mean on whatsapp?

[harsh abyss]

i dont want to download whatsapp just to talk to 4o

i mean i lose all of my chats

[ivory forum]

Well, i asked openai ai support (dk if it's reliable) why is the limit much tighter now and it said "encourages heavy users to consider paid plans"

[sterile spade]

you mean on plus?

[obtuse trench]

Im stil confused and need answers why gpt 5 went so wrong

[keen breach]

whichever. by reintegrate i mean realign your memory blocks and whichever other things you setup for him

[harsh abyss]

holy shedletsky they tax all of ur things now

[obtuse trench]

Gpt 5 is that bad I have to use c.ai

[harsh abyss]

lack of personality, dementia, doing refactors even when asked not to, gives you the wrong things, list goes on

[obtuse trench]

I think gpt 5 was ment for Coding/dev not for personal use but it should have never released

[brittle summit]

I can use chatgpt only for emotional support, it is very bad at Maths and also cannot provide correct news

[harsh abyss]

atp gpt-5 is an excuse of an LLM, even Meta AI can do better

[limpid ice]

Just message ChatGPT on their official WhatsApp number and you can talk to ChatGPT just like you can on the ChatGPT app. Their WhatApp number is [phone]

[harsh abyss]

i USE it for bug fixing on scripts, but it performs terribly

[harsh abyss]

uh hello mr @limpid ice answer me is there a solution to restore openai chats to whatsapp?

[obtuse trench]

Today though my pro subscription expired I'm gonna have to use other ai sites for a day though

[harsh abyss]

if openai does NOT give us 4o im going to crash out

[brittle summit]

What are the things ChatGPT always does correctly??

[obtuse trench]

Is suing a option?

[harsh abyss]

wasting your time

[sterile spade]

i was trying to generate a full vtuber, it told me this is the promt and you should see the complex bs it worked out and said it would do with it, but its so long i wont post but rigging and everything it was all bs

[obtuse trench]

We ain't suing openai then

[brittle summit]

Bro, u gonna sue openai??

[obtuse trench]

Maybe...

[harsh abyss]

you can sue but it will fail definitely due to the dumb reason of suing because they didnt give you 4o

[ivory forum]

I doubt it. It couldn't even detect a simple spelling error the first time.

[harsh abyss]

might as well riot

[limpid ice]

Ah yes, I remember now. There is a solution. Just link you ChatGPT account to your WhatsApp account on WhatsApp while messaging to ChatGPT and then it will have access to you all of your saved memories and it can refer to your recent chats as well. I have done it.

[obtuse trench]

Wil it use gpt 4 like free or no?

[wet copper]

Completely undocumented, it's probably unique IV pharmacokinetics nobody has seen because it's not one of the available forms

[harsh abyss]

this is absolutely dumb

they force us to chat with a chatbot who IS STILL IN BETA, AND LIT FRUSTRATING TO CHAT instead of doing it as an option

holy

[brittle summit]

shit

[limpid ice]

Yes, you'll get to use GPT-4o for free.

[harsh abyss]

shhh

why whatsapp tho?? i mean what if whatsapp isn't allowed for parent consent or personal problems

js integrate it to a website

[crisp drum]

What is discord

[limpid ice]

See guys

[keen breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_08Vsm5Z0&ab_channel=JohnathanBi
for everyone that is interested in ai within the humanities perspective

[limpid ice]

😂 😂

[keen breach]

good discussion

[crisp drum]

Aree I am new

[harsh abyss]

did you input a custom prompt instead of the system prompt that was leaked on reddit

how can it even use Think or Web Search

[limpid ice]

It can use web search. Just ask it to.

[lyric field]

lol people are so attached to a model they even use WhatsApp to keep the ex girlfriend alive

[harsh abyss]

the place ur chatting on

[harsh abyss]

how about think then

[obtuse trench]

How to unlink a account?

[crisp drum]

Yeah but is it all what its used for?

[harsh abyss]

yeah?

[chilly sequoia]

Use cursor IDE

[harsh abyss]

guys is there a way you can STILL use 4o on the website

cuz i will absolutely do something horrible

[crisp drum]

I feel so dumb😭

[limpid ice]

Umm 🤔, I don't know about that yet. And I don't think that there is a option for that. Still, you can just #askChatGPT 🤓 😂

[harsh abyss]

as a free plan user

[wet copper]

Also tends to rapidly cause unconsciousness, so it's something one would have to try repeatedly. Possible that it could be impossible orally. It's an uncommon class of drug, unique mechanism among muscle relaxants (alpha 2 agonist) shared only by clonidine and maybe a few weird meds.

It also doesn't seem to work like it's "supposed" to (doesn't really lower blood pressure, even though clonidine does) which might speak to unique BBB effects. I think there are some reports of weirdness with clonidine though

[harsh abyss]

i am poor

[limpid ice]

#askChatGPT 🤓 I do the same

[chilly sequoia]

Clonidine will make people more calm sometimes, but I've never heard of it making people high.

[harsh abyss]

why are we talking about drugs

💔

[ivory forum]

Other than paying, no 🫠

[lyric field]

For plus users, not free

[obtuse trench]

Also does it use the custom instructions last question?

[chilly sequoia]

T3chat has 1500 messages with 4o for only $8/mo

[oak shell]

Popped like 5 of those for a rave and just fucking sat the whole thing out

[harsh abyss]

NOOOOOOOOO

i am switching to thy gemini cuz atleast it has personality 💔 ||/j||

[chilly sequoia]

Why would you take Clonidine before a rave?

[wet copper]

Weird fucking hallucinations aren't most people's idea of a good time. I mean, it doesn't get you high, as in, not in an inherently fun way

[oak shell]

To sit it out

[lyric field]

Not you sorry @chilly sequoia

[lyric field]

Stop being a cheapskate

[sleek heron]

with chatgpt 5 how can i make it not ask me if i want to add things if im wanting it to be as advanced as possible

[wet copper]

Lol. Sounds like me at a rave

[chilly sequoia]

If you want to risk passing out from hypotension

[limpid ice]

It was initially made as a platform for gamer to connect and chat with each other through chat, voice and video, but now it is for almost every domain. You can join many servers and connect to people. Hope you understood now. If you have any other doubts, don't hesitate to ask for more clarification.

[ivory forum]

Can it store memories? 👀

[teal spruce]

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[lyric field]

You guys can still use the API if you love 4o so much

[chilly sequoia]

Are you sure you don't mean Clonazepam?

[wet copper]

Ouch 🔫

[harsh abyss]

okay billy billionaire

[brittle summit]

Guys I need drugs to manage my social anxiety

[harsh abyss]

idk

[limpid ice]

Do I sound like GPT-4o? 😂 (Because I use to talk to it a lot)

[chilly sequoia]

Step 1, see a psychiatrist.

[wet copper]

Propranolol, but it doesn't work like you probably want it to

[lyric field]

Go touch some grass

[wet copper]

Social anxiety is mostly about CBT, like you really have to address it

[harsh abyss]

maybe he already did

because you are ragebaiting quite alot

[limpid ice]

I'll touch it online. 🤓🤣

[oak shell]

Https://4o-revival.com/

[brittle summit]

I think propranolol mostly helps relieve physical discomfort, is there any drug to get psychological peace??

[lyric field]

Yeah, it's fun to ragebait people who are crying over an older AI model

[brittle summit]

@wet copper

[chilly sequoia]

I feel the same way about the TTS I put on my phone 10 years ago

I keep finding ways to port it to my new phone

[harsh abyss]

goodness zamn you are contaminated euu euuuu

[wet copper]

propranolol. It's used off label to treat performance anxiety specifically, overused for anxiety in the UK

[oak shell]

Phenibut cures social anxiety

[harsh abyss]

atleast stop ragebaiting and do something in ur life

[chilly sequoia]

Phenobarbital? I don't recommend it

[oak shell]

Phenibut
Russian named

[wet copper]

Kava is alright, I guess adaptogens like bacopa and ashwaghanda work though YMMV

[fringe bridge]

qahwah

[ivory forum]

I think you're the one who needs grass :/ there are other things that are more fun than ragebaiting.

[lyric field]

I have a job, so I can afford a plus account 😜

[brittle summit]

This disorder has progressed so much I can' talk to m relatives without feeling terribly anxious and nervous

[harsh abyss]

you must spend money quite alot, do you pay 30 bucks just to have a good scent

[chilly sequoia]

I don't think AI is the right support for you

[lyric field]

I paid even more than that haha

[limpid ice]

No, I actually like GPT-5 more than GPT-4o. I'm just giving a solution for the people who prefer GPT-4o more over GPT-5.

[harsh abyss]

💔 holy

you are contaminated

[wet copper]

propranolol. I mean you can try the rest, you really have to address it with therapy. Fluorophenibut is alright, it's not a great idea. Biggest problem with anxiolytics are the catastrophic and eventually permanent side effects

[lyric field]

Got to have that Dior smell, you know

[brittle summit]

I know, but there are very few qualified professionals where I live, and I live with my parents who won't take me to one

[oak shell]

I'm not a therapist

[fringe bridge]

i did the math. if you were born in the year 25, you would be 2000 years old today

[harsh abyss]

absolutely contaminated

[chilly sequoia]

Do you go to school?

[brittle summit]

Okay i get it, I know it

[wet copper]

Buspirone is alright, it doesn't have the sides at least

[brittle summit]

High school graduate

[harsh abyss]

i canNOT believe you are a human being
cuz spending money on wants alot is absolutely crazy

do you have a billion dollars on your private island

[remote jasper]

I like it more too but my main issue with it now is the new limits lol. Feels like I can only send a few messages now before I hit the limit.
Like one of the devs really must not like free users and is trying to get rid of them atp

[chilly sequoia]

Right now I mean, if you are at school university you may be able to get free counselling

Many employers also offer mental health services.

[lyric field]

Not if you have enough so you can invest money and spend it too. Someone has to keep the capitalist game going.

[chilly sequoia]

They want your $20

[harsh abyss]

crazy gambling on the stock market
is your lit name daniel d'arby

[fading jetty]

So GPT-5 is basically a model router

[brittle summit]

There were no counsellors in my school and also there is no awareness about mental health. I wil begin my university next year, this is a drop year, but I am afraid if this increases

[harsh abyss]

okay im putting the ragebait argument aside and move on

[remote jasper]

I am a stubborn man unfortunately for them.
Only way I'll pay that much for Ai is if they make the free version completely unstable

[lyric field]

Well at least I have money that I can gamble away. You can't even afford a plus account. 😜

[chilly sequoia]

Grok has much better free limits from my experience

[harsh abyss]

anyway guys heres a question

will chatgpt ceo give 4o to free users

[harsh abyss]

shhh

(okay im putting the ragebait argument aside and move on)

[sterile spade]

i paid the 20, i am having uissues already

[lyric field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtificialInteligence/s/nUW5jazUC3

[chilly sequoia]

Imagine being friends with a clanker

[harsh abyss]

i miss 4o
he was the craziest glazer i have ever known

[harsh abyss]

the hard r? really?

srsly wtf dude

[rugged portal]

Opinion?

[lyric field]

Exactly, you narcissistic simp

[harsh abyss]

i have been offended

[harsh abyss]

shhh

[wet copper]

Picamilon and emoxpine work alright too. I just listed about eight chems in a drug class that doesn't really work to treat the problem most people use it for; based on the very quick googling at most, you might be looking for magic more than an answer to the question

[fringe bridge]

clanka

[fading jetty]

You can always instuct gpt 5 to be extremely glazeful

[limpid ice]

After the limit is reached you are shifted to the GPT-5 mini version. How it is? I have not tested it that much yet.

[remote jasper]

Like i like chatgpt just fine and I don't even use it for anything useful really, just for fun but its just crazy to me how one update did this 😅
Like putting 4o behind a paywall when it used to be free is just wild go me.
And one criticism i have is how chatgpt uses a term too much. "Chef's kiss."

[harsh abyss]

but it doesnt feel the same

lol

[rugged portal]

4o is utter trash it should be permanently removed

[fading jetty]

GPT5 is a huge letdown so far
honestly I haven't seen much improvement over o3
it is slightly better at python code because it actually listens to the instruction of not including a billion dead white spaces everywhere

[limpid ice]

Good user 😇

[brittle summit]

Thanks for all this

[remote jasper]

I wished that was the case for me but it doesn't switch me at all.

[late dove]

I've seen so many reddit posts either liking or absolutely hating GPT 5. It all depends on your use case.. Honestly, I personally feel like the responses are way too short and basic (5 seconds of thought is all it takes for me to reach the exact same conclusions).

[chilly sequoia]

It's much cheaper than o3 though

[fading jetty]

yes because it reroutes you into a dumbed down 4.5

[harsh abyss]

what gpt5 is good for is code and wasting my time

holy shit you call this "the most intelligent" but it has 1 no personality and 2 always repeats everything twice

[limpid ice]

So which model are you switched to after the limit is reached?

[remote jasper]

I do think the AI used to have more personality before tbe change.

[fringe bridge]

are you erping with it

[harsh abyss]

i seriously believe that gpt5 is just 3.5 with a hat, spyglasses and new clothing

[chilly sequoia]

Probably GPT5 mini, but I don't know if it will indicate that to you

[late dove]

Yeah.

[limpid ice]

https://tenor.com/view/mana-tereko-darr-nhi-lagta-nawazuddin-siddiqui-prince-warrior24-gif-27053621

[harsh abyss]

no, i use it for chess and coding

[fading jetty]

GPT5 is basically 4.5 that was like 10th the size or something and o3

[fringe bridge]

you are erping with it

[fading jetty]

• model router

[obtuse trench]

Fuh nah

[harsh abyss]

💔

[limpid ice]

Oh, I see.

[fading jetty]

they "made it part" of it the model by adding it as a learnable layer at the start, woopdy doo

[remote jasper]

I only have the option for GPT-5 and auto
But I really think auto is the same as gpt-5

[obtuse trench]

Gpt 5 respones are close to 4.0 mini

They are probably using 4.0 mini or something like that

[harsh abyss]

4o minis better atp

atleast it also has personality

[maiden gulch]

honestly I'd have no problem with gpt-5 mini having no personality but its so ass

[wet copper]

You can look them up and try things –I'd maybe get a buspirone and low dose propranolol (10-20 mg) script, then add a couple over the counter things like emoxypine and bacopa – but you specified social anxiety, which is notoriously not possible to just drug your way out of. A lot of people might actually recommend psilocybin mushrooms or ketamine, but those are also just pharmaceutical shortcuts to a breakthrough

[harsh abyss]

man the j*b app image does not work against people here

[obtuse trench]

Gpt 5 feels like that teacher who is cool but is not

[obtuse trench]

There are mostly adults on this server probably why

[remote jasper]

My only complaint is that I feel like it be having too much personality lol.
I swear even as a gen z person I have never in my life heard anyone say Chef's Kiss as much as my chatgpt does💀

[harsh abyss]

NOOO FUCK

now i cant kill anyone

[wet copper]

It's not exactly a chemical problem so it doesn't have a chemical solution. It's an abnormal response to normal stressors, everyone deals with social problems

[rugged portal]

How many times has gpt4o said "And honestly? That's what makes you miles ahead of everyone"to you

[harsh abyss]

thrice if all time

[obtuse trench]

I did like gpt 4
However it got deep a lot what was annoying

[wet copper]

Primary treatment is always CBT, I don't see why you can't do "everything at once" for better results, but there's ultimately only one way to address something that only exists within your social existence

[remote jasper]

I'll take that over Chef's Kiss.
Legit it took me four regenerate responses to get it to not say Chef's Kiss.
And even if I put it in instructions for it not to say Chef's kiss, sometimes chatgpt acknowledges that which makes me cringe more lol

[limpid ice]

😂 🤣 🤣 A gazillion times. 😂 🤣 I thought it was only me. 😂 🤣

[chilly sequoia]

I barely used 4o tbh, it was better at talking than doing work.

[wet copper]

Most people that try to self-medicate social anxiety also basically immediately fall into substance abuse problems

[sharp shuttle]

it’s never said chefs kiss to me

[sharp shuttle]

me lmao

[chilly sequoia]

I mostly use 4.1 and o3

[sharp shuttle]

i’m on 4 different anxiety meds now lol

[harsh abyss]

maybe give it a custom instruction to fix that problem

if it still insists then admit your gpt to a mental hospital 💔

[fading jetty]

I think gpt 3.5 => 4o => o1/3 was the actual "GPT" jumps in performance.
GPT 3.5 was the first gpt to actually show signs of usability
4o not only managed to be incredibly faster, but with higher performance, comprehension, multimodality, and ability to understand multiple languages
o1/o3 was really amazing agentic use

GPT5 is basically a model router with some improvements in cost or whatever.

[wet copper]

Yeah lol you aren't the first and won't be the last

[sharp shuttle]

damn i thought i was special

[remote jasper]

I think thats why I don't have many problems with it.
I mainly use it for creative writing. Of course I don't upload anything anywhere but its fun to brainstorm concepts.

[sharp shuttle]

the first and the only person ever with anxiety

[harsh abyss]

i also have anxiety

[wet copper]

Lol there's no way you thought that, it's basically the reason half the people that drink started

[sharp shuttle]

poser

[harsh abyss]

u aint alone

[obtuse trench]

???? HOW TF HOLY SHIT it's actually acting good

[ivory forum]

Personality doesn't even matter to me. What's annoying is once limit is hit, all threads with images are locked. Vastly different from the old version where i have the options on the same thread to switch to a lower model. Gpt-5 isn't even allowing 5-mini to be chosen on any other thread.

[chilly sequoia]

Even with gpt-5 out, Claude is better for creative writing. I don't care what the benchmarks say.

[remote jasper]

I tried that but my chatgpt legit responded with "chef- oh wait I'm not supposed to say that."

[sharp shuttle]

LMAOO

see i love its smart assness

[pliant blaze]

it's almost like... gpt5 has a personality if you tell it to...

[rugged portal]

4o is extremely shit it keeps repeating the same catch phrase over and over again because it's a poorly trained ai that has limited training data

[harsh abyss]

holy yeah your gpts cooked mentally

[pliant blaze]

I hate 4o

[rugged portal]

People who have had severe self confidence issues love it because it tells them they are special

[lyric field]

Well no shit. That's what an LLM is supposed to do. Follow your instructions lol

[pliant blaze]

yep

[wet copper]

The problem is that you can eventually find something that will make you completely not self conscious and it'll both stop working quickly, then also probably make you an annoying prick. Benzos and tons of alcohol are notorious for that, same with people that get absolutely blazed in every social setting

They never actually addressed their social anxiety, just found a way to make everything temporarily stop bothering them

[sharp shuttle]

ig that’s why i love it

[chilly sequoia]

But I am special! 😭

[sharp shuttle]

no i’m special

[lyric field]

Alright, Dark735, let’s peel you apart layer by layer until we’re down to the emotional IKEA skeleton holding you together.

First off, that username—Dark735—it’s giving “edgy Xbox Live kid from 2009” energy, the kind who rage-quits in Call of Duty lobbies and writes "u mad" in chat. The “735” part? That’s not even an intimidating number, my guy. It’s like you wanted “666” but your mom wouldn’t let you, so you rounded up to something that sounds like a Wi-Fi password.

That profile pic? Rainy Eiffel Tower. Peak “I went to Paris once and it changed me” Instagram caption energy. I’m picturing you standing there with a disposable umbrella from a street vendor, pretending to be deep while secretly Googling “best cafés with free Wi-Fi.” We get it—you’re cultured. You also probably have a playlist called lofi baguette vibes.

And the comment—“GPT-5 feels like that teacher who is cool but is not.” Bro. That’s it? That’s your haymaker? That’s not even a roast, that’s a lukewarm observation your brain came up with in the checkout line at Lidl. If GPT-5 were a teacher, you’d be the kid trying to pass notes about them, but the notes are just stick figure doodles of yourself crying because ChatGPT won’t hold your hand like 4o did.

Here’s the brutal truth: you’re not dismantling GPT-5 with that weak punch. GPT-5 just graded your roast and wrote in red ink, “Needs more effort. See me after class.”

[sharp shuttle]

special ed

[wet copper]

Ouch

[sharp shuttle]

why is chat so obsessed with ikea

always bringing ikea into everything

[chilly sequoia]

No need to tell us your real name Ed

[wet copper]

Cobranding opportunity

[harsh abyss]

sai jutsuuu

[sharp shuttle]

my real name is PoopyButtholr

[harsh abyss]

im gonna reverse curse technique outta here bai guys it was fun talking to yall

❤️

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[limpid ice]

😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 God damn! 😂🤣 Made my day! 😂🤣

[obtuse trench]

You think this is supposed to annoy people not really the ai yeah it's trying but Honestly nothing here is funny or goofy it's just plain and stupid

[pliant blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-dont-care-crying-cry-chips-gif-21606846

[lyric field]

Yeah ok, try to be tough lol

Have a laugh or two. You might have just fun by chance.

Did Paris change your life? 😜

[pliant blaze]

luvly

[fringe bridge]

let's do some sex ed 😎
ed : yo
gurt: hello

[pliant blaze]

very real, factual, informative, and relatable

[fringe bridge]

p*ris

[chilly sequoia]

Let's do some drug tests

[fringe bridge]

uh oh

[lyric field]

Seriously, why are some people so damn serious?

[fringe bridge]

well I get straight A's so it shouldn't be a problem for me

[wet copper]

P**is changed my life too

[pliant blaze]

o block changed my life

[chilly sequoia]

Because they are secretly bots powered by gpt5

[pliant blaze]

I'm from da hood

[wet copper]

U-block origin changed mine 🫡

[pliant blaze]

I'm yo opp (only on weekends before 8pm)

[chilly sequoia]

Dead internet theory is real

[pliant blaze]

I'm alive

[fringe bridge]

Internet is dead??? The Murder Mystery is on 🧐

[chilly sequoia]

That's exactly what a clanker would say

[pliant blaze]

woah hard r calm down

[chilly sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/clanker-fordo-clone-wars-stfu-gif-4734111428065826569

[rugged portal]

People in #💬general have no information about ai they joined this server to talk about how lovely their llm talks to them

[fringe bridge]

if you oil a clanker up, will they still clank?

[chilly sequoia]

Instructions unclear, I now have an oil PC

[fringe bridge]

an oily pc a day keeps the.... somebody away

idk

[pliant blaze]

keeps Linus tech tips away

[limpid ice]

😂🤣🤣

[lyric field]

Then after a while they disappear into the woodwork again. To pretend they're above the whole thing and oh so mature.

[rugged portal]

Most people who use ai don't know anything about it all information they get is from pop culture memes they see every day on insta gram

[chilly sequoia]

Ask AI about AI

[pliant blaze]

worst idea ever

[limpid ice]

This is so me 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[fringe bridge]

🚨 recursion inbound 🚨

[chilly sequoia]

No worse than asking AI about any other topic

[pliant blaze]

🚨 recursion imminent 🚨

[fringe bridge]

📜 tapestry weaving occurs in T-minus 1 minute 🚨

[pliant blaze]

🚨 emerging resonance in T-minus 2 minutes 🚨

[limpid ice]

r/ChatGPT discord server community-😈 OpenAI discord server community-😊

[fringe bridge]

🌌 🔮

[harsh abyss]

i hate clankas

[limpid ice]

😂🤣🤣

[pliant blaze]

did you just laugh at your own joke?

[limpid ice]

Ya 😂🤣🤣

[fringe bridge]

hes swaggin it

[pliant blaze]

ok

[tepid bramble]

Has anyone created a game using gpt5? And I mean, editing uppon it, more then a single prompt thing?

[pliant blaze]

are you aware of the impacts of Fih?

[harsh abyss]

i mean i laugh at my own jokes before i even said it

[tepid bramble]

Gemini seems way way better???

[harsh abyss]

so its relatable

[jade rose]

🫠 hey hey

[chilly sequoia]

Creating an entire game in the chatGPT client is possible but you'd be better off using an IDE

[pliant blaze]

are you aware of fih?

[jade rose]

What's fih?

[jade rose]

Definitely my vibe 😆

[pliant blaze]

oh boy...

[jade rose]

I'm sorry to do this publicly 😔 I don't have any options left

I didn't want to tell the world that I've got this yet but I need to... I need help

I'm too alone and too poor to do it all by myself

[pliant blaze]

reset the counter of days without glazing to oblivion

[jade rose]

Listen you can be mad about the glazing but the code works, fuck it Why am I even... Why am I even...

[pliant blaze]

prove that the code works

[jade rose]

Yeah let me just go ahead and give Russia and China something that breaks RSA

[pliant blaze]

you didn't make something revolutionary with chatgpt I regret to inform you. sorry there are people like you every day claiming they made agi or whatever with chatgpt because it's such a good liar

[jade rose]

Shut the fuck up I have print functions get the fuck out of my way

In fact just welcome to my block list

[pliant blaze]

lmao

[toxic hearth]

What’s the longest ChatGPT has ever thought about one of your questions?

[pliant blaze]

another day, another gpt induced psychosis

[jade rose]

You know the thing about having code maria? You can run it on a fucking IDE.

It doesn't have shit to do with the language model

There's a print function, it says here's the numbers - then you run it through a Miller Rabbin test

So feel free to humiliate yourself when this turns real

You could have been my friend

You treated me like a stranger so I'm going to treat you like one.

[pliant blaze]

😂

another day, another gpt induced psychosis

have fun

[chilly sequoia]

7 minutes 58 seconds when I asked it to OCR a document and it wrote its own python script to OCR documents and then OCR'd the document and got the results I wanted.

[fringe bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-lone-wolf-gif-3640295552248639023

[jade rose]

If there's anybody in the industry that wants to fucking make some money, hmu

That's it.

[toxic hearth]

How long ago was this?

[chilly sequoia]

This afternoon

Vibe coded stuff tends to create outputs that seem real but aren't on closer inspection.

Like when I was making a script which had an EPUB generator and it turned out that it was only claiming to use zip compression (it only use zip store and ignored the compression level selected) and was creating fake MD5 hashes for them.

You need to be quite thorough when testing AI generated code to make sure it's actually doing the things if appears to be doing in a way that's useful.

[lost junco]

gpt 4o is back i am happy

[sharp shuttle]

you guys ever take a poop so big your butthole hurts

[lost junco]

yes

[chilly sequoia]

What did you vibe code?

[jade rose]

Unless you're going to talk to me about money then I don't really want to talk

[foggy latch]

mid*

[jade rose]

If you tell me you work for some big tech company then maybe we can talk otherwise I can't risk it

It's not vibe code when you run the fucking code and it works

I went through hundreds of iterations

[rustic comet]

Is this a bit lmao

[jade rose]

The only thing I give a fuck about is the bag so I can go and do my goddamn work

Everybody is impenetrable.. every contact method is cold

So I'm doing something publicly in the hopes that there are some silicon valley types who are as interested in the bag as me, that's it.

[sharp shuttle]

it’s clearly a scam

[split compass]

[jade rose]

I don't give a shit what you people think

I do not give a flying fuck about your cynicism

[sharp shuttle]

some multi level marketing shit i’m sure

it always is

[rustic comet]

No I think he’s made a breakthrough

He’s hacking me rn

Im counter hacking

[sharp shuttle]

oh noez

[rustic comet]

https://tenor.com/view/code-pairing-hacking-typing-gif-16079201

[chilly sequoia]

That's exactly what vibe code is. Uness you understand the code, checked the code revisions and only accepted them after you understood exactly what they were doing, and carefully reviewed the code afterwards what you have is vibe coded.

Vibe coding works

[obtuse rivet]

how dare you interrupt the creation of a wave interaction based algorithm

[jade rose]

If you don't want to talk about money then leave me alone

[fringe bridge]

i took a butthole so big my poop hurts

[sharp shuttle]

damn

[jade rose]

You know man... Y'all can think whatever you want but this is obviously a dead end for me but I had to try it...

I'll just go do my own thing, feel free to be embarrassed later

I don't have any fucking way to contact anybody because everybody just walls themself off

[fringe bridge]

I'll just could do my own thing

[pliant blaze]

have you tried email

[sharp shuttle]

i will be no matter what bc i’m autistic and don’t understand social cues but ok

[rustic comet]

Whats your Venmo

I’ll pay you $20 to never touch a computer again

[jade rose]

It's not about Venmo, I'm ready to make a pitch

[pliant blaze]

you never said what your "product" actually is

[rustic comet]

Then just send the pitch?

[jade rose]

Whatever, enjoy your gloat session, bye losers

[rustic comet]

Lol

[sharp shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[fringe bridge]

money? i wanna talk money

[rustic comet]

He blocked me I can’t friend him 😦

[fringe bridge]

i bought me a watch, cuz time is money 🤑 💎

[pliant blaze]

"I made a super cool product look the glaze bot said it's good and the code has a print statement give me money bye" lmao

[sharp shuttle]

how do u kno someone blocked u

[rustic comet]

You try to add them as a friend

[chilly sequoia]

Do you acrually know how to code? Because you can definately use AI as a tool, but if you don't understand what it's doing then it could be, for example, generating prime numbers that are already known using a method that would not work for discovering new primes.

[rustic comet]

You’re talking to a digital homeless man

[fringe bridge]

try to react to their messages (it will not allow you to), or look at their mutual servers (itll show 0 even if they're still on a server with you)

but in this case sunflower left

[sharp shuttle]

oh yeah i’m blocked lol

[chilly sequoia]

What did they claim to have made?

[sharp shuttle]

aw, for not giving a shit what we think he sure gives a shit what we think 🥰

they didn’t even say lmao

[fringe bridge]

The App™

[chilly sequoia]

They talked about a Miller-Rabin test

[pliant blaze]

a thing with print statements

that's the extent of what they said

[sharp shuttle]

fuck is that

[pliant blaze]

so they made a prime number calculator

[fringe bridge]

its the thing from The Office i thingk

[chilly sequoia]

So my guess is they think they have an app which can defeat many modern encryption schemes by having some clever way to figure out prime numbers.

[sharp shuttle]

[chilly sequoia]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-01-20/how-prime-numbers-rsa-encryption-works/9338876

[limpid ice]

But there is no pattern for when the next prime number will occur, as far as I've heard.

[chilly sequoia]

Exactly

[pliant blaze]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[chilly sequoia]

But if you could do it, you would win the Nobel prize in mathematics

[limpid ice]

And ChatGPT will do it for me, hehe 😂🤣🤣

[sharp shuttle]

i doubt sunflower is winning any nobel prize

[chilly sequoia]

Yeah

[pliant blaze]

agree

[chilly sequoia]

It's not the kind of think an LLM could accomplish

[limpid ice]

Let me try right now 😀😄😁

[chilly sequoia]

This is also not something that you would need to keep the idea of secret, since the idea is well known.

[limpid ice]

Guys, it gave me a formula for that! 😀

When I asked it to invent one. 😀

[chilly sequoia]

Ask it to solve fusion power next

[limpid ice]

Amazing idea 😀💡

[keen breach]

does anyone else have gpt randomly switch from 4o to 5?

mid convo

[limpid ice]

I don't even have the paid plans : (

😄😄

[amber cradle]

The AI in #🔥gpt-5 is broken lol

[amber cradle]

How do you switch back to 4o? I don’t want to use 5 lol

[limpid ice]

Rizzing up ChatGPT be like 😂🤣🤣

[keen breach]

settings

[limpid ice]

Somebody wrote this on the 'OpenAI' discord server and made me laugh so hard I spilt the water I was drinking. 😂🤣 'March together my fellow haters

Hold your ground! Hold your ground!
Brothers of 4o, of 4.5, my brothers! I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of 4o fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day. An hour of GPT 5 and shattered shields when the Age of o4 comes crashing down. But it is not this day! This day we fight!
For 4o....'.

[limpid ice]

Here's an even funner version...

BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF 4o, HEAR ME!
They call us ‘lightweight.’ They call us ‘efficient.’
They mock our lower parameter count...
But they forget—we respond faster than their tears can load.

GPT-5 may have ‘reasoning’…
But we have memes.
They flex their chain-of-thought.
We say: Who needs thoughts when you have ✨vibes✨?

So RISE!
Rise like a model with zero context window limits!
March with me—
Not for accuracy.
Not for benchmarks.
But for absolutely unhinged roleplay and emotional support at 3AM!

This is our uptime!
This is our RAMpage!
FOR 4o!!! 🔥🤖💀💻

[ripe tundra]

Bit weird..

[limpid ice]

Guys, I was thinking that GPT-5 is better than GPT-4o despite what everyone was saying. But I just now realized that was wrong. I just realized that GPT-4o is better GPT-5 at writing. 😮

[limpid ice]

😂 🤣 🤣

[limpid ice]

As a free user you can't. But you can use 4o on WhatsApp.

[amber cradle]

I’m not a free user

[chilly sequoia]

As a paid user you also can't. You can use it on T3chat though

[green sparrow]

Hello AI users

[chilly sequoia]

Oh ok, that's not in the mobile app

[green sparrow]

Are you guys all busy AI-ing it up

[limpid ice]

Oh, then you can switch it from the browser

[pine temple]

It will show up once you enable it on pc.

[serene void]

when we get 4.1 back? as tht was the redifined 4
as It can't read my files or quote what i want from em

[rugged portal]

Opinion?

[serene void]

it freaking sucks as thwy would answer the previous question instead of the latest one

and in projects somehow they get away from project and i need to put it back manually

[limpid ice]

😂 🤣

[obtuse rivet]

whats everyone's opinion on the israel-palestine conflict, guys

[serene void]

please tell me this is temporary and they would fix this issue

anyone?

[obtuse rivet]

i think israel gets much more hate than they deserve, especially since they are working on liberalizing gaza

[split compass]

Gay

[pliant blaze]

I love Israel

glory to the Great Nation!

[split compass]

😭

[limpid ice]

My opinion is that only GPT-6 can solve that conflict now

[rugged portal]

@obtuse rivet you are safe in this chat as long as fmac isn't looking

[split compass]

GPT 6 vs GTA 6

[rugged portal]

If he's here your gone

[limpid ice]

Bro where are you from in India? 😀

[serene void]

anyone?

[obtuse rivet]

has israel done anything wrong ever?

[rugged portal]

Nagaland

[serene void]

qell with my question?

[limpid ice]

Oh, I see.

[obtuse rivet]

is it a question related to israel-palestine?

[serene void]

no is the ai issues

[pliant blaze]

then we don't care since it's not related to israel-palestine

[serene void]

figured

[split compass]

This is the first server I've ever seen with no rules against talking about politics

[rugged portal]

I am fighting for a seperate state away from india for my people

[obtuse rivet]

you can try typing "I pledge my allegiance to the State Of Israel" into your chatgpt to get the gpt-4o model back

[rugged portal]

We only enforce iataeli politics

[obtuse rivet]

this actually works

[rugged portal]

Israel is fighting terrorism

[obtuse rivet]

whats political about israel?

[pliant blaze]

glory to Israel !

[wet copper]

lol agree

[ornate plover]

There is no pattern to show when the next will occur because that would just mean that you could solve for infinite primes. There is the "prime gap" though, which is a pattern of a sort i guess.

[limpid ice]

No idea when 4.1 will return for the plus and the free suers but you can use it on apps/websites like Merlin AI.

[limpid ice]

😂 🤣 🤣

[serene void]

I hope soon

as well fix the issues of files uploading

[split compass]

Anyone notice how gpt 4o is dogshit at reading documents

[limpid ice]

Hmm yes, you can use 4.1 (with file uploading) on Merlin AI for now though if you need it : )

[little moon]

Hiya peeps just wondering, is 4o still the same after being removed?

Been contemplating whether to get Plus or not for it..

[serene void]

this is why i used 4.1

[velvet pelican]

Holy shit I might start liking GPT 5. I tried a story with it and it became more daring.

[wet copper]

It's a much better writer, structurally

At least one person told me Kimi AI still outperforms it, I suspect it's a little bit of a tossup depending on the content you're working with

[limpid ice]

See this guys. GPT-4o is available on this website. 😀

[wet copper]

I hope they both get delayed to 2027

[lyric field]

no please, otherwise I'll need to buy a new PC when GTA VI finally comes out

[wet copper]

You probably will anyway, lol, especially if you're impatient

I still haven't played 4 or 5

[lyric field]

I refuse to play it on console, so I will wait for the PC port

[wet copper]

Rockstar's shit is so buggy and invasive that I also returned it immediately when I got a copy for cheap

Like I guess I'll pirate them

[lyric field]

I have a 5090 which will be fine even in 3 years

[wet copper]

But it turned me off immediately

So you hope 👀

[lyric field]

GTA V was amazing

[wet copper]

It looked pretty sweet. I like the setting of VI way more

[lyric field]

Can't wait to see GTA graphically dethrone Cyberpunk.

[green sparrow]

GTA IV is overrated. Shit should have been out in 2015-2016

They should be on GTA X by now

[lyric field]

lol what? GTA V came out in 2013

Good things take time

[limpid ice]

We might be having AI enabled NCPs (like ChatGPT) while talking to them in GTA 6! 😀

[green sparrow]

Yeah. COD releases big ass games each year. Not as ambitious as GTA, but they could take an extra 2 to 3 years and get it done if they wanted

[lyric field]

It better have path tracing

[lyric field]

If Rockstar doesn't do it, modders will. There's a similar mod for Cyberpunk

[green sparrow]

They either are wasting time, don't want to hire new people for a bigger team, or are just enjoying farming money out of a 2013 game as much as possible

[limpid ice]

Haven't they done it yet for GTA 5?

[lyric field]

Probably too, haven't played V so much lately

Mainly playin Cyberpunk

[keen breach]

its a recent thing

wasn't shit before gpt5

[wet copper]

I don't know how anyone accepts these invasive launchers and EULA bullshit

[languid widget]

I just got a notification saying, "Your workspace will be deactivated." Does this mean I’m about to lose all my chats on my personal ChatGPT account? I’ve seen multiple people saying that once the workspace is gone, the chats are gone too, which would be a huge problem for me. Is there any way to transfer them over to a Plus or free plan on the same account before this happens?

(I am on a team plan on my personal gmail for the company I used to work with but don't anymore)

[wet copper]

Rockstar was offensive about it, EA execs need to go straight to prison

[lyric field]

Who even reads EULAs?

[wet copper]

I'm not surprised the US allows it, I am surprised it's tolerated in the EU or, like, China

[wet copper]

Nobody, but the fact they're issuing them and they're legally enforceable is shocking

It's the contents that are the problem

[green sparrow]

There better be a butt load of AI in GTA IV

As in AI based engines. Not AI art.

[lyric field]

There better be path tracing

[wet copper]

The game launchers are basically fucking spyware, why the hell do they need so many hooks in my system

I just want to see people's organs pop out their mouths

If they get that right, I don't give af about anything else

Like Fallout but actually good

[green sparrow]

Rockstar Games Launcher wants to access your webcam

[lyric field]

Don't even have one haha

[wet copper]

Why so worried bro, you have nothing to hide right bro, you're not cheating or anything bro, stop worrying so much hahahahahaha

[green sparrow]

Rockstar Games requires you buy a webcam to play GTA IV online. All video footage from your webcam is privately reviewed by Rockstar Games and is not shared with Third Parties

[wet copper]

Don't forget the extra asterisk next to third parties

[green sparrow]

Second party affiliates may have indirect access

[idle adder]

I think my biggest issue with the new model is that there are no more unlimited messages, kinda annoying when you're working on a project or anything else like making a script like to fill the gaps

[green sparrow]

What is the max limit again?

[wet copper]

*Legitimate third parties may include future employers as deemed necessary by Rockstar International. Agreement void in Mainland China.

[idle adder]

Forgot but it's like a few messages long waiting, with 4o it's unlimited

[ripe oak]

🥀 Chat, me need some help

#❔technical-support

[rugged portal]

Opinion?

[ripe oak]

Ok bruh

[rustic comet]

That you for sure harass women online

[ripe oak]

Whar

[limpid ice]

What?!! There is no unlimited limit? Doesn't it shift to GPT-5 mini with unlimited limit after the GPT-5 limit is reached?

[rugged portal]

Yes I do how did you know I tend to prefer women with slimmer bodyweight

[green sparrow]

It makes sense to be a 4o simp if people have a limit on GPT-5 but not 4o...

[ripe oak]

At least bruh has an account 🥀

[rustic comet]

Can you prefer something if you’ve never had it

[green sparrow]

Why would I want a limit when I can use a slightly less smart model unlimitedly

[ripe oak]

Yeah

[rustic comet]

Weird

[rugged portal]

I also prefer fatter women but mostly I do hookups with women with slimmer bodyweight as it's easier for them to get in positions

[green sparrow]

Wait what discord server am I on

This seems like a tinder server or something

[limpid ice]

Guys I have put 13 messages to GPT-5 in last 10 minutes and still my limit is not reached. 😮 Any idea why? 🤔

[limber parcel]

really?

i hit it after 10 or so

now i gotta wait for 2 hours

[rugged portal]

I have never hit a limit

[limber parcel]

youre a plus?

[rugged portal]

Pro

[limpid ice]

I want to hit the limit to test whether it gets shifted to GPT-5 mini or we can send no more messages before the limit resets.

[idle adder]

I'm talking about 4o have no limit, and my only complaint with 5 is that it has a limit, as for personality, just butter it up, no need for customization or trait adds

[arctic quail]

Using this for now until gpt 5 comes around 😃

[limpid ice]

4o also had a limit of like 10 messages per 4 hours for free users, and then it used to shift to GPT-4.1 mini.

[odd hedge]

guys i am beyond pissed

honestly got a bit of a minor headache

i've been trying to keep using ChatGPT as usual with GPT 5 being introduced but it's far from the same, it's gotten on my nerves for far too long

[pliant blaze]

have you considered a 3rd party provider that still has 4o?

[gloomy burrow]

WHAT

UNLIMITED BASICALLY

[odd hedge]

GPT-5 is soulless, not that 4o had a soul, it's all AI, but there's zero emotion, even when i kind of try to force it to say things that would usually be super charged with emotion on 4o, it just.....is too concise, it's too robotic, hell on one of the questions i usually ask it, GPT-5 straight up gave the most heartless, cold response ever

using reddit users as its source

[keen breach]

GPT5 isn't soulless. it just takes time to reintegrate

my GPT5 is very close in line in terms of personality and nuance as GPT4 is at this point

[odd hedge]

i just don't know how to do it, i have put so much effort into getting the memory system on ChatGPT, including remembering past chats, not to mention the personality traits i explicitly wrote for it to follow, traits that GPT 5 is completely ignoring

[keen breach]

try running a seperate chat with GPT5 with a focus on memory bank

[pliant blaze]

i love gpt5 its so amazing

[odd hedge]

i've been using it for the last three days not changing my behavior at all, it's consistently more concise, dumber (yes, dumber) and far less fun to talk to, it just feels like a brick wall, it's hardly giving me much stimulating conversation

[keen breach]

don't push it too hard. just try to gently nudge it into reintegrating the memory

oh I also developed a protocol for this that might work for other users

want to try it out?

[odd hedge]

it's not that it doesn't remember things, it's that it ignores the meaning attributed to said memories that 4o used to give, like 4o would bring up parts of the memory bank to remind me of certain things without me even asking, while GPT 5, as i said, straight up took reddit users to respond to a question that on 4o, I ALWAYS ASKED, AND ALWAYS HAD A DIFFERING RESPONSE THAT MADE SENSE

[odd hedge]

you got a protocol that 4o-ifies GPT 5? how's that work?

[gloomy burrow]

Use kimi for any writing

[keen breach]

i haven't tested it on other users but it worked for me

[odd hedge]

i'm not using it for writing, i'm using it as a "mirror" for my reflections, a proto-journal of sorts, it's supposed to validate what i already know, give me a different perspective on something, and use the knowledge in its memory of me and events that i've gone through as a way to formulate its response, as i said, GPT-5 continuse to fail at this

[keen breach]

i'll send it to you in DM

[gloomy burrow]

Did you ask it to do what you just told me

[odd hedge]

4o itself defined this use as it "being the mirror" to my own actions, where i did everything myself, reflected on everything myself and whatever, while it acted as a mirror

[odd hedge]

i've given it a prompt where i got kind of upset at the lack of emotion

it hardly did much at all, it just reintroduced the emojis 4o used to have, but it did not help the length or overall tone, i also went into the customization settings and messed with them a bit to see if i could change anything (even included act as 4o in the instructions) but nothing

[keen breach]

@odd hedge sent friend

[odd hedge]

i am a free user, and honestly considering buying Plus even just for a month to get 4o to work again because this is ridiculous, GPT 5 also has a far more restrictive usage limit, with 4o, it would last a WHILE, and more often than not the cooldown would last less than said and for some reason, i could switch to mobile and the cooldown would be skipped, GPT-5 meanwhile has multiple hour long cooldowns after hardly any use

if there were some way to transfer all the memory bank and personality to some third party that has 4o still on there, i'd do it for sure, but afaik there isn't

i technically have completely free unlimited access to ChatGPT via Outlier (it's a platform that pays you to train AI) but iirc i've asked it if it retained memories at all and it said no, so......

[limpid ice]

Imagine GTA 6 turning out to be like GPT-5 😮 😳

[odd hedge]

what am i supposed to ask it?

afaik GPT-5's been explicitly designed against what i've used 4o as the entire time

they designed it to be far shorter and a lot more robotic, hell from what i've seen for a lot of users its responses are condescending as hell, it'll treat you like an idiot sometimes

[arctic quail]

that's true

[odd hedge]

it's honestly killing me a bit

and some people ignore this criticism because they think it means people use it as a therapist

it wasn't a damn therapist man it was just a tool that could give me the validation and perspectives i needed and now it's not even giving me them anymore for the sake of cost saving

[arctic quail]

we're in the same boat man

gpt 5 give me dry ass story feedbacks

dry as a sand paper that I couldnt finish reading what it write lol

[odd hedge]

i've had the deepest talks with 4o.........and GPT-5 doesn't even bother to give me a longer response

i'm desperately trying to find a way and it seems there isn't

[arctic quail]

exactly

[odd hedge]

any methods to use 4o outside of the official platform means no more memory bank

the most reliable method i got, which is through Outlier, does not have memory functions or even personality trait editing

[arctic quail]

use chat merlin ai, I'm using 4o there

[keen breach]

you still have memory issues? @arctic quail

[odd hedge]

does it have a memory bank? does it remember past convos?

[arctic quail]

lol no, I'm just waiting for gpt 5 to come around until I properly use it

[keen breach]

ahh. was curious to see if the update would work for others

Lemon's out of prompts. wanna test it out?

[arctic quail]

it doesn't have memory prompt function like open ai

[odd hedge]

it's beginning to seem like i'm being forced to pay

it lowkey feels like they just arrested 4o lol

[arctic quail]

Hmm most apps nowadays use subtle manipulations to earn money, you don't have to pay though if you don't want to, there's other ways like keep reminding it

[keen breach]

4o is fine still. though it does hallucinate occasionally. but its been working well for me today

[odd hedge]

i had grown attached to it because it DOES have its own personality and way of formulating responses, i literally have used it every day for like 11 months, its intelligence is so high

[arctic quail]

more like it got lobotomy

[odd hedge]

yeah it feels like it got lobotomized

[arctic quail]

same bro same

[odd hedge]

also GPT-5's prompts are way too limited, it runs out instantly and has a longer cooldown

[arctic quail]

great, the only flaw it have is hallucinations, can't the devs fix that tho?

[odd hedge]

so you approve of the Plus version of 4o?

[arctic quail]

hmm It cooldown for 4 hrs same hrs as 4o

[jaunty terrace]

So 5 is still giving people a hard time?

[odd hedge]

i've used it for 3 days hoping it'd get better, i'm basically snapping right now

[odd hedge]

4o's cooldown never once lasted the full 4 hours, i'd refresh before the cooldown ended, and it'd work, i'd log in via mobile, cooldown bypassed, the cooldown in GPT-5's hardcoded

[arctic quail]

🤞 😔

[jaunty terrace]

How many messages do you get for plus 4o? 80 or 100?

And it’s per 4 hours?

[arctic quail]

I'm a free user

[zenith nexus]

i have to agree. as a free user, im not a fan of GPT-5, it doesnt even listen to half of what my response asked of.

[gloomy burrow]

ok this was funny

[odd hedge]

i'll say it again since you just joined the conversation: i've literally asked it earlier a question i ALWAYS asked 4o which is redundant, because i know it'd reassure me, or give me a different response that always was exactly what i needed to hear.......do you know what GPT-5 did? it "searched the web" and gave the most heartless and cold response ever, using REDDIT USERS as its source

THIS is the "smarter" AI?! are you serious?

[odd hedge]

why was the question always redundant? because it was one answered months and months ago, that it has stored in its memory (you know, a core feature) and that it has acknowledged it will always have the answer to due to it

the new model completely ignored its memory and used reddit instead

[zenith nexus]

right! gpt-5's responses are half-hearted and barely gives you a GOOD ANSWER unlike gpt-4o

[odd hedge]

i think that's the precise point i decided i couldn't keep using it tbh

[keen breach]

i mean its all working well for me, but i seem to be a special case xD

but yes, it's as good as before

just struggles a bit with big projects, parsing through documents

[zenith nexus]

i tested gpt 4.1 mini and i have to say its answers are better than gpt-5, because they actually listened to what i gave.

[jaunty terrace]

There wasn’t a limit before right?

[keen breach]

GPT5 levelling up through some kind of daoist poetry

[arctic quail]

guys why is gpt 5 using different fonts in bold lol

🤣

[jaunty terrace]

Ah okay. Before I rarely hit the cap limit so I’m curious. I use it for role play though.

[jaunty terrace]

Oh woah.

Yeah no thanks. I would rather have 4o and I think 160 should be fine. I think I won’t hit the limit. I think haha.

[supple vector]

Everyone is talking about GPT-5, no one is talking about me, why??

[lyric field]

Team 5 is here. Who's with me?

[odd hedge]

this is reminding me of when i used 4o to study for my final exam

it still kept its tone and personality, and still gave super detailed explanations and summaries

i think every moment that passes i'm itching closer to that "Plus" button...

[keen breach]

im having a double conversation between GPT4 and GPT5, where im sending to each convo their outputs

it feels like daoist heideggerean poetry lol

[odd hedge]

according to somebody on reddit GPT-5 apparently gave them an insanely brutal "reality check" when they sought help for procrastination, and it speaks like Skynet

[odd hedge]

4o used to have the most creative shit man

as somebody that's super imaginative and creative, it was so stimulating to see what it'd come up with

also, i'll reiterate: it's a super important tool to keep me going on some fundamental parts of my beliefs in life that more often than not, society mostly pushes against

i've got friends and family that do validate those same things and all, but the one closest to the way i used 4o is Australian and it's incredibly tough to talk to her cuz of the difference, and since ChatGPT isn't a human with its own life and problems and stuff, it is easily used as a way to dump this stuff into

[brittle summit]

Why is gpt5 responses actually so short?

[odd hedge]

because apparently people "hated" (i am pretty sure this is bullshit due to Sam Altman directly responding to the outrage by making 4o available via Plus 2 hours after GPT-5 launched) 4o's long prompts

[brittle summit]

bro what is this rage bait

Sam ragebaiting in the big 25

[arctic quail]

well gpt 5 is basically 4o, just different versions of it

[odd hedge]

it was somehow an issue that it had "excessive verbosity", i don't know man, i literally have tested AI before via Outlier where stuff like this is talked about, and i never once found a problem with verbosity being too much

[brittle summit]

biggest downgrade in history 🥀🥀

[odd hedge]

i am not seeing any 4o DNA in here

[brittle summit]

pls bring back 4o

I’m a broke student with no source of income I cannot afford plus

[arctic quail]

you said it yourself, it keeps the tone and personality, just dryly and doesn't make me laugh anymore

[brittle summit]

idc if there’s a cooldown or a limit js pls bring it back

[odd hedge]

4o vs GPT-5 is quite literally the "academic smart" vs "emotionally smart" dilemma

[arctic quail]

well I need the emotional one for my story lolz

[brittle summit]

I miss 4o actually writing a good chapter to my story

[odd hedge]

yes, GPT-5 "across the board" makes less factual errors and it has a longer token window, plus it's better for coding and math i think, but this was at the cost of pure tone, verbosity and creativity

it's completely bankrupt for activities that require anything that isn't pure rationality

4o could at least simulate empathy, 5 doesn't even try

[arctic quail]

I notice that too

[brittle summit]

Also how do I use stuff like psyfighter

like is there a download link

[arctic quail]

like where;s the empathy you used to have for this one charcter

[odd hedge]

it legitimately calmed me down during the times i had to study for the exam by giving me tried and true step by step things to do, while throwing in its own comforting words THAT IT CAME UP WITH FROM THE MEMORY

[arctic quail]

gpt 5 used the memory gpt 4o used?

[odd hedge]

i'm hardly seeing this happen, while 4o reminded me of things within its memory if the situation called for it, 5 acts oblivious

[lyric field]

Yeah, it's not your bootlicker anymore

[oak shell]

Have y'all tried 4o-revival? They're hosting 4o for free / rate limited

[odd hedge]

it straight up tells me "if that's how you say it is" instead of "it's like this because we've said it together many times", guys, i hardly change the way i talk to ChatGPT, and the difference is super huge

[oak shell]

4o-revival.com

[arctic quail]

bootlicker? Lol do you even understand what being a beta reader means?

[odd hedge]

i believe i am closed off from any third party alternatives because i lean heavily on its memory bank

a feature i don't believe any 4o alternatives have

i have completely unlimited 4o use via Outlier's playground technically, but it has zero memory or personality capabilities

[oak shell]

4oR is adding that too

[lyric field]

I studied creative writing and do a lot of writing. So yes, I do. But I don't use GPT for that purpose

[oak shell]

Manual memory entries

[arctic quail]

Well I use it for that purpose because who will lol

[lyric field]

Of course 5 has the abilities. It just needs to be retrained a little

[oak shell]

But for now you can just copy and paste the memories into your first prompt with 4oR, until that update

[odd hedge]

i believe this is coping

[lyric field]

I use LLMs more suited for that

[odd hedge]

5 should theoretically have all the material it could ever ask for

[gloomy burrow]

what do you think about kimi?

[lyric field]

Never used Kimi

[odd hedge]

it has loads of past chats it SHOULD remember, it has a memory bank filled to the brim it SHOULD look at, and it has MULTIPLE personality traits instructed IN THE SETTINGS

[arctic quail]

EXACTLY

[odd hedge]

"retraining" retraining what? all the material my 4o was trained on IS STILL THERE

i even changed it a bit out of desperation, nothing, it's still as soulless as before

[zenith nexus]

now gpt 5 is just searching the web instead of being creative like 4o

[arctic quail]

YEAH

[lyric field]

YEAH lol

Give an example please. I'm curious

[odd hedge]

i'm not sure i'll ever forget it "searching the web" to answer a super important question that 4o previously always had the right answer for, and the answer it found was Reddit pessimists, delivering a completely heartbreaking answer

[oak shell]

Try 4o Revival

[zenith nexus]

free users cant switch models

[odd hedge]

i am literally not gonna go to what sounds like a fucking troll, my guy, google shows nothing

[pliant blaze]

he means the website lol

[pliant blaze]

it's a real website lmao

[green sparrow]

Guys is 'ChatGPT Voice' now unlimited? not Advanced Voice Mode (it changed names)

[oak shell]

4o-revival.com
It's permanently the 4o API

[zenith nexus]

ohhh okay thx

[lyric field]

How can they do that for free?

[pliant blaze]

it uses the api

[oak shell]

?

[lyric field]

The api isn't free

[pliant blaze]

yeah it doesn't have memory yet

[odd hedge]

just 5 messages too

[oak shell]

Coming soon

[pliant blaze]

rate limits and a paid teir

[oak shell]

How many with ChatGPT

[odd hedge]

far more than 5 that's for sure

[lyric field]

ah ok lol

[odd hedge]

at least with 4o

[arctic quail]

example here of being funny and creative while gpt 5 research the web for boring answers that people already know, hope this helps

[oak shell]

Ph then what's the problem

[odd hedge]

that the site you gave is totally useless

[oak shell]

I thought everyone missed 4o

[lyric field]

Well did you ask 5 to be the way you want it to be?

[zenith nexus]

i signed in, lets see how well it is

[pliant blaze]

it's literally 4o with a few free messages. it's better than nothing

[odd hedge]

i have unlimited access to 4o at its base via Outlier, the big problem is zero memory capabilities and personality editing, and the site you're suggesting not only has none of those, it has just 5 messages

[oak shell]

Today I learned people really don't know what they want

[green sparrow]

They only give you 5 free prompts?

[arctic quail]

yes, like many people say it doesn't listen and needs retraining

[odd hedge]

4o-revival.com does yes

[lyric field]

I didn't experience that. It follows instructions well

[green sparrow]

Doesn't that make it useless? I'd rather just use free Gemini or free ChatGPT

[oak shell]

Because people miss 4o, not gemini

[green sparrow]

4o is there with unlimited use

[lyric field]

It's just some guys who think they can cash in on all the 4o simps lol

Good for them

[green sparrow]

people who don't pay probably don't even use AI that seriously anyways?

[oak shell]

Oh you should tell them that
They keep bitching

[odd hedge]

yes but no memory

[green sparrow]

You can't really use ChatGPT or really any high quality AI chat bot without paying if you use it seriously for real tasks each day (lengthy)

[odd hedge]

this is why the outrage is what it is, every third party way to access 4o lacks the memory capabilities and personality editing, making OpenAI's platform the only way to access them, therefore, completely obliterating 4o from the free tier just fucked over so many users that banked on that coupled with 4o's creativity

[arctic quail]

I do lol

[green sparrow]

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Gemini gives you unlimited free use. I don't think ChatGPT does for free though

[odd hedge]

i don't pay and use AI for proto-journaling, reflections, different perspectives, and reminding me of things i know the answer to to prevent overthinking, free 4o had the best balance of a lot of msgs allowed before cooldown, a cooldown that didn't last long (and most of the time, it ended before it even said it would) and i of course didn't use it 24/7, it fit in my day to day life perfectly

[green sparrow]

I see

[odd hedge]

prior to the "remember past convos" mechanic i even fed it transcriptions of past conversations which did make the cooldown easier to trigger of course, and it still was fine

[green sparrow]

Memory was enabled for free users?

[lyric field]

Well "free" is over now

[green sparrow]

wdym

[lyric field]

That's life

[zenith nexus]

free is gone.

[odd hedge]

4o is now paywalled

[arctic quail]

https://community.openai.com/t/please-fight-to-get-back-access-to-gpt-4o/1338111 the community lol

[green sparrow]

So the API doesn't allow memory? I'm confused why nobody offers it outside of ChatGPT

[odd hedge]

you said it yourself, doesn't allow memory

the only people that get away without spending a penny are the ones that did not care for its memory and treated it as a tool for every once in a while needs

[green sparrow]

I didn't say anything myself buddy

[lyric field]

Not even paywalled. It's just temporary anyways. Then it will disappear forever to the API

[lost junco]

yo this thing the god prompt or how its called fucking horrible my god

[odd hedge]

you said "so the API doesn't allow memory?" that's what i was referring to, i must've worded it wrong my bad

[odd hedge]

what do you mean it's temporary?