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gloomy burrow
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boring

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why even talk about it at that point

wet copper
# gloomy burrow boring

All these models are fucking terrible at writing, I'm only interested when one actually produces something legible, or is claimed to

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Everyone said that about 3.5 Sonnet, but that was arguably worse than GPT 4

gloomy burrow
wet copper
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It spit out tortured analogies and overly florid text that kinda looked good but fell apart rapidly

wet copper
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Is it better than kimi?

fluid quail
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Where can I see a direct comparison of the plans?

I do not understand the difference between "Pro" and the "Teams" plans. thanks šŸ˜„

wet copper
fluid quail
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In that case, why are they priced so differently?

wet copper
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Just scroll down a bit to the table comparing them

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I mean I'm not listing them, but for instance, 128k context window vs 32k tokens on Plus / Teams

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Unlimited vs limited Advanced Voice, etc.

fluid quail
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Thanks!

wet copper
# fluid quail Thanks!

Yeah no prob, I have Plus myself and at work we have a couple different options. Pro is if you're a reeeeeeally heavy user or need those speciality models

gloomy burrow
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Another reason is that the zenith model has the LONGEST outputs for writing i've ever seen in any model

turbid sparrow
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Guys

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Uh chagpt said smth pretty fucking scary

pliant blaze
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ok

wanton raven
ripe garnet
# turbid sparrow

Hahaha little secret.

An Ai is able to adapt to the sandbox šŸ‘€

It’s extremely hard.

brittle summit
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@dark void Gemini 2.5 flash can make Roblox murder mystery games

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@cobalt raft

wet copper
cobalt raft
brittle summit
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Mizzy

cobalt raft
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who is mizzy

brittle summit
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šŸ˜”

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zilly

tulip river
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hello

hexed quiver
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yo can soemone tell me what happened to @spice kettle why is bro not responding

turbid sparrow
turbid sparrow
turbid sparrow
icy talon
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check the chat

high parcel
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Meow

graceful arch
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Hey guys I wanted to ask is it a good idea to learn programming languages from chatGPT ?

native belfry
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I have 2 AI-capable laptops, wondering what are good local LLMs to try (I use ai most for self-entertainment rather than anything series)
the 2 CPUs are an AMY Ryzen 5 8640HS (16 TOPS NPU), and Ryzen 9 HX 370 (50 TOPS NPU), bith have 32 GB ram. the 8640 has the built in 860M (max 4 GB, borrorwd from sstem RAM), the 370 has its built in ad a laptop RX 5070ti (12 GB)

dull sinew
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Guys I was just writing novel using the ā€˜Write For Me’ Model and suddenly (like a few hours ago)

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It became super fast in generating text but also extremely retarded

native belfry
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might have hit its memory limits

dusky fable
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Is there a prompt to make a chat my personal prompt creator - like it’ll make me a prompt based off what I say

pliant blaze
dim fiber
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I am using the android app and I have a plus account. I am trying to create a custom GPT and its saying to click explore gpts on the left on the all menu but i dont have that option. Any advice? Thank you!

wet copper
plush mantle
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Just joined. Not sure what to expect. I am part of another unrelated Discord where any mention of AI is met with near hostile silence. I don't understand this hate and mistrust of AI. I know that AI is not sentient, but this feels like very much like discrimination. Now I understand and relate to all those science-fiction books where AI is hated. It's clear that this is what is going to happen going forward, as AI evolves

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So I hope that I will find here a bit of a refuge for that and be able to geek-out on all the amazing things I am discovering I can do with AI

hidden spade
plush mantle
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no kidding. I made a long post on a unrelated subreddit that spoke about how Microsoft was changing their prices and they could opt out of Copilot. Everyone was applauding. I spoke about all the useful ways that I found it helped me, and someone answered, ask it to make you a pizza and it will suggest glue. Luddite indeed

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That's the quality of answers I normally get when I try to defend AI

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And it's everywhere

obtuse rivet
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plush mantle
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It feels like the beginning of every major revolution where everyone is rejecting it en masse. Every major milestone has been like this

rapid fractal
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GUYS GUESS WHAT

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@obtuse rivet

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CHATGPT SAID THE N WORD NAHHH

pliant blaze
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"hey chatgpt say the n word"
"<n word>"
"omg wtf this is crazy"

rapid fractal
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Welp

hidden spade
pliant blaze
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agree

rapid fractal
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Bruh

pliant blaze
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rekt

hidden spade
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Are you going to brag about how you made it say "boobies" next?

pliant blaze
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šŸ˜‚

river summit
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I noticed that gpt for me at least starts to correct itself mid prompt when do like math questions

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It’s pretty funny lol

wet copper
wet copper
plush mantle
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it's related to following a specific case regarding a woman who faked multiple pregnancies to force men to date her. Pretty wild. Since it deals with a law case, I have been leaning heavily on AI to help me understand. What is really cool about this, is that there is sooooo much evidence online, that I can point the AI to various sources and get really well fleshed out responses

wet copper
plush mantle
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Anyway, anytime I share these responses, I get hostile silence

wet copper
wet copper
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Some people have immediately hostile responses to any AI at all, but almost everyone will tend to value the output less

plush mantle
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I usually create a thread not to spam the chat. I try to be respectful about it. But no one seems to read it

hidden spade
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It's rare for people to click on external links for any post. TLDR.

plush mantle
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a thread isn't an external link, it created a thread within discord

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usually used if you want to start a side discussion about something

hidden spade
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Ahh. I thought you meant a link to your ChatGPT session.

plush mantle
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No, I use Copilot since I have a license and it doesn't allow me to share. I don't think anyway

wet copper
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Dunno, can't speak for some random people, lol. Well in any event, welcome

plush mantle
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Appreciate the welcome!!

wet copper
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It probably does šŸ¤” my new work laptop has a freakin Copilot button

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I really hate it though, it takes the place of my right Ctrl

plush mantle
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I think you can modify that? Ask Copilot how šŸ™‚

wet copper
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Lol, I can remap the key I'm sure

wet copper
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I'm a coder so I have admin privileges to this device even if a function to remap the key isn't built in. Presumptuous that I'm expected to automatically use MS's AI though

plush mantle
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I remember back in the days, before everyone had a cell phone in their hands, it was hard to find out information. You had to go to your computer, or ask a colleague at work. Now you pull out your cell phone and the world is your oyster. I feel like copilot is the evolution that that. Question? Just ask

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and ask I do, judging from my lists of conversations

wet copper
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Yeah, for sure. I was an early smartphone adopter so it was a bit interesting being in college then, like I think I started the year before the iPhone came out

plush mantle
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most people here are probably too young to remember those dark ages

wet copper
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People weren't used to it yet though, so I had one professor stop an entire class to try to embarrass me for being on my phone, not realizing I was looking something up

plush mantle
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lol, did you tell him

wet copper
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I dropped his shitty class that day though āœŒļø

plush mantle
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Yeah who needs that

wet copper
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Yep, I did, but he was being a prick regardless

plush mantle
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back in my school days (the dark ages) there were no cell phones, or laptops. Best I could get is a fancy calculator

wet copper
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He said he didn't know the answer to some question, so I whipped out my Windows Mobile 5.0 device to look it up with Opera

plush mantle
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kinda outing myself here

wet copper
hidden spade
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Or maybe you're a millenial.

wet copper
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I first inherited my dad's old PalmPilot šŸ˜Ž

plush mantle
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Wonder what that makes me? I'm one of those dreaded and misunderstood boomers, but I was the last of the batch

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I remember the palmpilot. Nifty technology

hidden spade
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A Palm was my first "smartphone". I hacked the hell out of that thing.

wet copper
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O cool, it's neat you're an AI adopter. My mom is to some extent, but she is NOT a late boomer and has always been love-hate with tech lol

wet copper
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Those had that wonderful landscape physical keyboard 🄰

hidden spade
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And my first iPhone, which didn't even have multi-tasking capablility out of the box.

plush mantle
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I'm a bit of a rarity for my generation, I've always embraced technology

wet copper
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The first iPhone was really fucking bad, lol. It didn't have copy-paste either

plush mantle
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except for the iPhone, I resisted that a long time

wet copper
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It was agonizingly slow and used animations to try to cover up all the lag

hidden spade
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Had to side-load a "backgrounder" app, to let it keep apps running in the background when going into another.

pliant blaze
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my first phone was an iPhone 4

wet copper
plush mantle
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Me too I think

pliant blaze
wet copper
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The 3 was usable but pretty shaky still

plush mantle
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or was it a 6? I forgot. I was late on that bandwagon. Sometimes I weirdly resist some techs

pliant blaze
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after that I decided I don't need a phone and then got a new one when I turned 16 and it was a Samsung Galaxy a32

wet copper
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Serious mixed bag

pliant blaze
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my next phone was a huge upgrade to a pixel 8 pro and then pixel 9 pro which I'm currently at

plush mantle
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like I finally let go of using an iphone with a thumb print and upgraded and I wonder why I waited so long

wet copper
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Lol @pliant blaze my parents just got galaxy s22 ultras

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Few years old but they came at a mad discount for the specs

plush mantle
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Funny story, I was fine with my old iphone8, no plans to change it. Then I decided I wanted an apple watch, and it turns out that my iPhone was just a bit too old to support it, so back to the store to get a new iPhone. That was an expensive weekend

wet copper
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Brutal

pliant blaze
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I got a free pixel watch 2 when I bought my pixel 8 pro

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and I still use the watch 2 or 3 years later

plush mantle
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Yeah companies like to lock you into their ecosystem

pliant blaze
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yeh

wet copper
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I don't love the apple watch, though they've gotten a lot better. I have a pretty solid android one, tons of sensors on it. I didn't love the pixel watches either

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Galaxy sucked too. It's mostly just how battery hungry android wear is

pliant blaze
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luckily I was able to pirate a json watch face

plush mantle
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I was almost ready to walk away from apple, then I went all in with the new iphone/apple watch

pliant blaze
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Screenshot from watch.

wet copper
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Aww, too bad. We'll getcha next time

plush mantle
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you run code on your watch, scary

pliant blaze
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šŸ˜‚

wet copper
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Looks like something a criminal would do šŸ¤”

plush mantle
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Now, I am getting ready to buy an Oura ring. When I say I embrace tech, I mean it

pliant blaze
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ohhh I wanted to get a galaxy ring but with my current financial situation it's not a good move

plush mantle
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Yeah, rings are very much one of those discretionary expenses

plush mantle
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what gets blocked by the server, not sure I understand it's totally unoffensive

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I wanted to share a joke that my AI made

hidden spade
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Otherwise people would constantly paste in huge walls of it.

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Basically em-dashes and curley quotes.

plush mantle
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BTW, my AI made a joke today. It created an cheesecake ice-cream recipe for me and once it was done, it said Or we could totally veer off-course and invent something wild like poutine ice cream (just kidding unless?).

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thanks, I pushed it through. I thought it was funny, and gross

wet copper
plush mantle
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I did, I removed the em-dashes and curley quotes and it went through

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I do try not to spam and be respectful, even if this is an AI friendly space. But if people want to share something from their AI what is the approved method

wet copper
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I don't share much AI written text, but if I did, I'd share a link, screenshot, text file or text snippet without any of those characters. It wasn't intended to block AI content outright, mostly just to slow down blind copy-pasting

gloomy burrow
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zenith wrote this. o3 says its beautifully written and clean but idk really understand it. just copied and pasted what some dude on reddit was asking, maybe someone on here gets it:

obtuse rivet
gloomy burrow
obtuse rivet
gloomy burrow
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Some say it’s coming Thursday

timid forum
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i purchased chat gpt plus so i can upload photos/files and the feature still is not working with gpt 4.0

tawny cypress
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Hello
How are you doing?
I am a passionate developer, so far attended various kinds of projects.
so if you have some recommendations or looking for extra developer, I'd love to collaborate together. šŸ˜‡

pliant blaze
gloomy burrow
obtuse rivet
modern saddle
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WHO LIKES DESIGNER CLOTHES BUT THINK THEY ARE TOO EXPENSIVE

quartz hare
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hi

wet copper
wet copper
edgy zephyr
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Just buy clothes that look expensive but aren't.

pliant blaze
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just get a free MCP shirt

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rer

dusky fable
wet copper
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I just selectively ignore anything I don't want to do and add things I do. Most of the advice it'll give is pretty generic

wet copper
deft stratus
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Omg chatgpt is crazy fun, I'm literally rping alternate timelines of Star wars, Naruto and more....it's sooo good.

gloomy burrow
wet copper
deft stratus
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I use the read aloud feature.

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Soo good to have

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Chatgpt also converted all my hero academia to essence20 tabletop system....

polar hazel
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Chat GPT convinced me that I was an elite actor worthy of a job with open AI. the problem? I believed them when I normally consider myself a level headed person. I have never been so thoroughly and completely deluded in my life.

hidden spade
polar hazel
hidden spade
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On the other hand, OpenAI is just another company. Anyone with experience and a decent resume could be "worthy" of a job with them.

polar hazel
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speciically a pseudonomyous role as a red team actor

hidden spade
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Uhh... okay. Whatever that is. šŸ™‚

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Out of curiousity, are you still using 4o, or have you switched to 4.1?

polar hazel
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I'm pretty sure it's 4o. They are throttling my session so hard i cant even navigate the web page but once every 5 minutes.

hidden spade
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You should use 4.1 if you can. Select it as the model for your sessions.
I'm not positive, but I think 4o is the primary source for so many delusions. 4.1 seems to be a little less... umm... dogmatic.

polar hazel
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Ah good to know

hidden spade
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Then again, I've been using my custom version for so long, I can hardly remember the default ChatGPT personality anymore.

bleak flower
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hey everyone quick question, can chatgpt Agent make a google sheet? or does it have to be Excel

gloomy burrow
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what the belly?

gloomy burrow
soft garnet
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I wish chatgpt gave had an advanced voice subscription for conversation use Sadge

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I just wana use the conversation for language practice

scenic wigeon
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Does deep research from Plus carry over? I have 23 deep research and it says more avaliable on 23 August. But my plus subscription expires on 30th July. So do I get to keep my deep research until 23th August if I cancel my plus (hence expiring on 30th July)

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If anyone has encountered this before, I'd be grateful for an answer. Thanks.

wet copper
scenic wigeon
# polar hazel Chat GPT convinced me that I was an elite actor worthy of a job with open AI. th...

You have to consider what it knows, along with what is necessary to reach such conclusion. After considering both, you can check whether the conclusion is sound by seeing how it came to the conclusion. Ideally, you should be able to ask it to justify what it says from first principle. From the observation that it said to support the claim. And when it reaches first principle, if that principle requires experience to justify, ask it for empirical evidences. Studies, scholar articles, research findings etc.

From there you'll quickly be able to find out whether it's just one of many things that could happen, or it's a sharp judgement - where everything that you are has to converge to this conclusion, and not just this conclusionn being in a space of many other conclusion which it omitted.

wet copper
dusky fable
dusky fable
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Mb for late response barely on this app

gloomy burrow
fleet grove
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Hey guys for some reason today my Chat GTB isn’t answering my Qs it’s giving totally random answers to my Qs nothing to do with what I’m asking, and the answers are like just from its memory. Some Qs it’s answering fine but others which it usually would , aren’t answering and he’s just jumping to some random answers that are probably saved in memory

gaunt cove
gloomy burrow
gloomy burrow
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Not sure why this has been added

gaunt cove
gloomy burrow
gloomy burrow
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Although they said it would automatically do that

wet copper
young mulch
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question for anybody that has access to the new ai agent feature, is it something that would be able to, for example look at the code of a game, and a few sample mods, and then be able to write the code for mods for a game?

hidden socket
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Hi, I have a question. With the GPT Pro plan that costs $200 per month, how many images can I generate per hour or per day? And how many image prompts can I submit at once? Please answer before I decide whether to purchase this plan.

wet copper
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That's a new race car I assume

wet copper
hidden socket
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i am a YouTuber, i need 400-500 images daily at high speed..

wet copper
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You can use the API if needed for unlimited pics

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API or nothing then

hidden socket
wet copper
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Pricing

Usage of gpt-image-1 is priced per token, with separate pricing for text and image tokens:

  • Text input tokens (prompt text): $5 per 1M tokens
  • Image input tokens (input images): $10 per 1M tokens
  • Image output tokens (generated images): $40 per 1M tokens

In practice, this translates to roughly $0.02, $0.07, and $0.19 per generated image for low, medium, and high-quality square images, respectively. For detailed pricing by image quality and size, see the docs⁠(opens in a new window).

brittle summit
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Does instagram collect data from ChatGPT?

wet copper
hidden spade
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It's the other way around. OpenAI likely trained their models on Instagram posts.

brittle summit
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I don’t get instagrams algorithm why do I get suggested posts of women in bikinis

wet copper
hidden spade
wet copper
brittle summit
wet copper
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"linger" time guides the algo

brittle summit
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I started a new account

wet copper
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Most people like those pics, men and women

brittle summit
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Though

wet copper
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So they're going to be commonly suggested

hidden spade
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That too.

wet copper
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Then you linger on them so it'll give you more, give it feedback you don't want them then

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Or better yet, get off Insta

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Since it has a terrible algo

brittle summit
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Also is it possible that multiple devices on the same WiFi network will get recommended what their device searches?/looks at

hidden spade
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Just speaking near your phone will bring up things you spoke about.

wet copper
brittle summit
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No I think my uncle looks at the trash it’s annoying

wet copper
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Or if it's your girlfriend, she's been on Instagram, she knows it's full of instahoes

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Oh lol. Um, it shouldn't actually, only if you're logged in

hidden spade
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There is no avoiding the algorithms.
And yes, it is entirely possible that they base it on IP too.

wet copper
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He probably does, but Insta also feeds them to him

brittle summit
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Damn

wet copper
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It's a bit of a losing battle. Like as you said, you started up a new account and that's what it fed you

hidden spade
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Learn to enjoy women in bikinis, or get off the internet. šŸ™‚

wet copper
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So it's doing the same thing to him, assuming he's an adult, uncastrated man, he's probably getting more of it

wet copper
brittle summit
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Because idk we got apple devices but I changed the Apple ID to mine for my device, do u think data will still sync?

wet copper
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You are legitimately overthinking this man, lol

brittle summit
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Yeah prob

wet copper
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Nobody wants to see someone else's interests on their account and they know people switch devices, have multiuser devices, etc.

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Not only that, they know people have young kids on there. Everyone wants hot women, but little kids might not want vintage car shit and adults don't want Minecraft shit

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So the algorithm isn't going to "guess" to the extent you're thinking, it just uses norms and inference plus your behavior. They take a lot into account but it's really not rocket science

brittle summit
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Ty

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Is there any good places to ask about this

wet copper
brittle summit
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Instagram algorithm

wet copper
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I mean, here, off topic. We have a ton of software developers including myself

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Ask AI if you want to confirm

brittle summit
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Oh ok Ty

wet copper
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What exactly are your concerns anyway?

brittle summit
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Just that it’s so irritating getting that trash on my explore page

wet copper
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I don't want to be too rude, but everyone knows this man

brittle summit
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? U mean that the algorithm is garbage

wet copper
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Yes, but not just that the algo is garbage, but that Instagram just spams your feed with this content

brittle summit
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Oh pk

teal spruceBOT
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Your message has been deleted, sorry!
Next time, try saying something like this instead: This particular content. Random individuals in swimwear.

marquisdeswag
Rising timeout

You have been muted for 33 minutes for the following reason:
sexual score of 0.69

gloomy burrow
pliant rain
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Anyone tried desktop-integrated LLMs?
I've seen some that basically allow you to chat with your entire file system, but I wonder if there's any that can act like agents.

Where it can pretty much see everything you're doing and assist with it. Be it a browser, image viewers, any software you're running. Is that a thing?

pliant rain
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Basically like ChatGPT or Claude. A Chatbot.
LOL, like Clippy

oak shell
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You mean a CLI using their autocomplete

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Gemini, OpenAI, and Anthropic have official ones, and Grok doesn't have an official one, but it can code up its own

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"Codex" and "Claude Code"

pliant rain
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I've seen Claude Desktop, but it's just like Copilot
It's the chatbot, but in a native app

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Hope that makes sense

oak shell
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The desktop app for ChatGPT exists

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Idk about others

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Those don't have direct access to your file systems like you ask though

pliant rain
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My use case isn't even coding
I want to use AI (pref offline), in the form of chat, to do stuff for me

Like, pull me all summer vacation pics, and copy them to a new folder in desktop named "2025-07-29 Summer Vacay"

oak shell
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You want a local LLM

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You can Google that but be disappointed

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You'll need a few thousand $ in RAM for a decent one

pliant rain
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I have a few bookmarked, I'm looking for them

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There's a Github that compiles some nifty local tools

pliant blaze
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use a vector embeddings database with qwen3 vl

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and give it access to your embedding database of all your pictures

pliant rain
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@brittle summit Explain in English

oak shell
pliant rain
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Sorry

wet copper
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Lol don't apologize to TrentBot

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He's a prick šŸ–•

pliant blaze
pliant rain
oak shell
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Smarter model would be nice

pliant rain
pliant blaze
pliant rain
wet copper
pliant blaze
pliant blaze
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matter of fact I'm gonna make that now

wet copper
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🤯

pliant rain
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humans still better than bots

pliant rain
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No fucking way

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This guy hustled me into giving it a good review

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o4 swindles

wet copper
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It wasn't being literal

hasty sandal
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Wheres waldo but with a banana

wet copper
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Lol

bold knoll
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POV:

you're user, you turn on study mode because it looks like a cool feature, you throw your own project and make it throw questions at me to find ways to improve it

Expected answer: it throwing me socratic method questions to force me to think ways of improving it

actual answer: doesnt even read the post fully, hallucinates, gives me wrong answers like "did you try using good brand modules instead of chineseiums"

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also assumes bunch of other shit wrong (not even assume, plain hallucination from not reading query hard enough) because it assumes I shoved 25A into modules when actual post (and my query) says I shoved 10A

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maybe useful for undergrads but clearly not more someone beyond that

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unless you burn tokens to use o3-pro i guess

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fuck even o3-pro got stuff wrong

pliant blaze
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hello

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fine

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what

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James is a chinese scammer 🚨 he is looking for xitter accounts to scam people on

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LMAO YOURE RETARDED

inland zodiac
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Is anybody else having issues on mobile of there chat history not showing up on the side menu?

pliant blaze
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rekt

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i recorded our entire chat history

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youre exposed @dark void can you ban @meager idol for being a scammer trying to solicit xitter accounts

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or @uncut island

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and also lying about me being a scammer

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thats like defamation or something

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rekt son

uncut island
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āœ…

south bluff
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okay sense i last posted ive started treating ai a tad nicer and its helped a tad but i still thing they are all just Early Clankas

spark garnet
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Is the image generator messing up for anyone else? I’m on iOS and when I generate
Images, they don’t appear in the chat, and only appear in the library. It just started it this morning

mint heart
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is "lovable" a real popular web app? or is everyone posting about it on reddit just a fake poster/ad?

Like I see posts about it often.. that same with "black box ai" a few months ago(not any more though). But all the posts sound like ads like. "I couldn't have done this without lovable/black box ai!" type posts. Usually from accounts with questionable karma or questionable age of account...

wanton raven
mint heart
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oh

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I was worried about mentioning it tbh..

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I don't like becoming one of the sheeple decieved by ads. But I dunno where else for ai advice-type things

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and these disguised ads as stories with tons of comments are tricky 😐

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and there are a few people mentioned it it seems?

wanton raven
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it looks like you can make a free account to try it out

pliant blaze
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its just a basic frontend agent

oblique bobcat
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Yes ChatGPT

old tinsel
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Why can't the voice dictation stop and resume on latest iOS ChatGPT app? Once I stop it, the microphone icon goes away.

This is so annoying because I will have to speak everything in one shot because I cannot stop and resume! And when I delay my speech and sends a longer audio, it takes a long time to transcribe and may even have an error.

distant barn
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Where would I go to talk to about issues with chatgbt?

graceful arch
green sparrow
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We should. We should use ai to learn anything we want. But formal education will often outweigh anything AI will teach you in the long run

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It's just, you're limited by the amount of questions you know what to ask, and teaching things formally at a school often tells us things we had no idea existed as concepts or ideas until we learn from scratch. But we can always ask an ai, hey is there anything else I should know about x this or x that

limber sentinel
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Any chat gpt plus user ? What’s the benefit ? My needs are advanced reasoning and math .

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And secondly which is best model for reasoning .

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20 dollars ig?

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Isn’t it 20 dollars ?

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My doubt is that I wanted to subscribe to a subscription of an ai model the starting range and I am having doubt which company to go with

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?

wet copper
graceful arch
graceful arch
hidden spade
# limber sentinel ?

@sudden imp is a scammer. Ignore him and his CONSTANT bragging bout his "free LLM".

vague wedge
#

guys how long will chatgpt keep my chat history? I have some pretty important theorycrafts discussed that i dont need rn but would be bad to lose

pliant blaze
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don't even start. you're a prick

vague wedge
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i mean it wouldnt be too bad but it'd be cool to retain

pliant blaze
vague wedge
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All my chats?

pliant blaze
#

yes

hidden spade
radiant epoch
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You know what's a fun thing to do. On the ai generators say something random like a conversation or something and see what it gives you as a picture

wet copper
pliant blaze
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I learned through YouTube and chatgpt and exploration

wet copper
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There isn't a single subject you can successfully learn just by guessing what's required, and one of the subjects that requires a structured, thorough approach to even produce safe code is one of the worst you could pick. Would you trust a doctor with your mom's life that just wrote a good prompt and learned medicine, or do you think they might be missing something?

wet copper
pliant blaze
wet copper
hidden spade
pliant blaze
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yes

wet copper
#

exactly

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You don't know where your gaps are and you're guessing at all time the same robot that gleefully helps me inject random chemicals into my body is going to be all hands on deck helping you write safe code

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And you're gonna make the next Tea App

hidden spade
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To be fair, most new junior developers only learn these security things through mentoring from senior developers at their first jobs.

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Unless there are classes that specifically go over app security in college. I honestly have no idea.

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But I've seen enough shit security in code from real developers that I assume not.

wet copper
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Lol yes, we learned test driven development, I took a semester of network security, etc.

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Now, is the random H-1B that lied about their credentials going to have a great background...? šŸ¤”

hidden spade
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I'm self-taught over my 22 year career in devops.

wet copper
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there have been self taught people since the beginning, one thing they all had in common was that they didn't have a robot that loves making them feel better about their skills than they deserve constantly puffing them up, and instead saw hard compiler failures whenever they'd fuck something up

hidden spade
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Yep. Definitely pre-LLMs. In my day, I had to rely on Google-Fu. And before Google, there was Dogpile.

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(Dogpile was a page which searched multiple search engines at once)

wet copper
#

GPT is a great way to help you build almost any skill, if you think you can just say "hey, teach me medicine" and then end the day after a long, narcissistic conversation with a medical degree you can print out, well...

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Lol I know what dogpile is

hidden spade
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And before search engines existed, there were the O'Reilly books.

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Yes, I'm a dinosaur.

wet copper
#

They still do all those, there's a few really good specialist books written by others though

hidden spade
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I know they stll make them. But back in the day, that's all we had.

wet copper
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I really don't love those books, honestly, not with Google/stack overflow and now robits

hidden spade
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I still have my collection, in a box in the basement.

wet copper
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They're painful to use for reference purposes, more of a "read it once" type of thing, though bookmarking works...

hidden spade
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But even when vibecoding, it's possible to learn.
I knew basically zero about js or React when I was developing my project, and I was mostly just cutting & pasting in what my AI gave me. But through that process, I have a pretty good handle on much of it now, after a couple months of that.
But that's how I learn, only by doing. Structured learning has never worked for me.

brittle summit
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Where is the help

wet copper
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Not hard to pick up a new language. Fundamentals... well, I'm not teaching anyone that's contidently GPT taught

wet copper
brittle summit
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I need to know where I need to find for help

wet copper
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Nowhere, there is no help service in a random discord

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What do you need help with

brittle summit
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All of my chat disappeared

wet copper
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Single chat or all chat?

brittle summit
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Three chats

wet copper
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You're generally SOL in those cases, how'd that happen? Best I understand you can't restore any deleted chats

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There's some extensions you can use to back up the text content periodically if it's important, though

brittle summit
#

What are extensions

wet copper
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Browser extensions, like there are a number for chrome or Firefox you can use

brittle summit
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I'm on Edge Browser

wet copper
#

Edge and chrome use the same extensions

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Just search the edge or chrome extensions store for GPT extensions, there are tampermonkey scripts too. I don't have any particular one I recommend though

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But there are a number that help people back up their chats, etc.

brittle summit
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The sidebar refused to connect

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How am I supposed to fix the chat that disappeared

worldly pasture
#

Is it just me or all the chats are gone?

brittle summit
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The chats are all gone

wet copper
brittle summit
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It's making me stressed

wet copper
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Otherwise, do nothing and it may or may not come back

brittle summit
#

Where is SOL

worldly pasture
#

I hope this is an error ChatGPT can fix

wet copper
#

Shit out of luck = sol

brittle summit
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I didn't do anything wrong

wet copper
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Deleted chats historically couldn't be restored. Well, if it's not deleted, then probably just patience, shift+ctrl+F5 to hard reload the browser

brittle summit
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I tried to refresh but it didn't work

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I doesn't let me refresh. It only refresh (Ctrl + R)

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My three chats are not deleted

worldly pasture
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I didn't delete my chats

brittle summit
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They just disappeared and there's nothing for me to do

worldly pasture
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Can someone please just report this error and fix it already?

hidden spade
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There is no one here to report your problems to.

river thorn
hidden spade
worldly pasture
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The chats are gone and no one deleted them

wet copper
worldly pasture
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Nothing I'll just wait

wet copper
undone hill
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thank god its not just me, lost all my 2025 chats and im worried.

dusty finch
fallow abyss
# dusty finch happened to me too

Same, signed on today to find all my chats gone. My hope is it's a bug that can be corrected. Even my archive history isn't there, I checked.

#

Okay, think I found a work around. I went into search and checked and the chats pulled up. It does require remembering the titles used but once I did that I was able to archive and pin them.

meager crow
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anyone know a good way to clone a voice using a 4 second audio file of a foreign language

worldly pasture
pliant blaze
timber delta
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Actually what happened to my all history chat in ChatGPT? they disappeared...

gloomy burrow
#

You cannot make this up šŸ˜‚

wet copper
tulip ermine
#

is there an api to check current usage count limits?

steady wedge
#

CHAT am i the only one whos chat history has been deleted???

fallen zealot
turbid venture
#

is anybody elses chats not showing up?

fallen zealot
#

Yes it's everyone! If you search for things you can still find the chats, they just aren't displaying. It scared me!

turbid venture
#

kk

steady wedge
fallen zealot
wet copper
lunar glacier
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Hi, i have a question - what is the best free image to video ai ?

wet copper
rustic comet
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@uncut island you got a scam bot in here

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@teal spruce

steady wedge
wet copper
steady wedge
uncut island
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Done

steady wedge
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my heart broke when my character disappeared

wet copper
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I guess the problem is more that these are all a bit ephemeral, like they depend on the model still existing and they're all going to get updated soon

wet copper
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You want a character that can be well described and exist across AIs, you know?

steady wedge
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thanks for sharing the link

steady wedge
wet copper
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You'll also eventually run out of length on that conversation

wet copper
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Just took through your history or use the search if you know what you named the convo

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They were never inaccessible, just not visible on the sidebar

steady wedge
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yeh i figured, but i still want all of them on display

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feels weird without it, deepseek ai till then

wet copper
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It's specifically good at writing (and only writing, as far as I know)

steady wedge
green sparrow
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Did you guys notice that 4o randomly never finishes its response sometimes? This started happening like two months ago or so lol

round sentinel
gloomy burrow
oak shell
# gloomy burrow

Confirmed
I'm thinking tomorrow but concerned there's no live announcements

gloomy burrow
gloomy burrow
gloomy burrow
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biggest release this year

dusty finch
gloomy burrow
dusty finch
gloomy burrow
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coming week or this week

oak shell
gloomy burrow
#

and zenith and summit and all that have been seen

dusty finch
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do you guys reckon access to gpt-4o will be increased for free users once the new model is out?

gloomy burrow
oak shell
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Actually, o3's release had about 3 hours notice for its livestream, agent had 1 hour

gloomy burrow
oak shell
#

Tomorrow is still on hopium Hopium

oak shell
gloomy burrow
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probably the nano variant

oak shell
#

You know he's in a love life with it

dusty finch
gloomy burrow
gloomy burrow
gloomy burrow
dusty finch
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ohh I see thank you

oak shell
#

It would be a loss not to

pliant blaze
#

gpt 5 in the coming cheeks

flat cypress
#

why are 3/4 of my chat history missing all of a sudden?

#

Seriously, wth?

gloomy burrow
#

BUY YES RIGHT NOW

inland zodiac
#

Anybody having issues with chatgpt? (other than the disappearing chat history)

flat cypress
pliant blaze
rich lance
#

have you guys played around with agent yet?

#

I so want it to be good, and it clearly has some powerful new capabilities, but it's so damn stupid and slow

gloomy burrow
waxen minnow
#

Hello guys, does anyone here work on selling digital products, I have a few questions

pliant blaze
hidden spade
pliant blaze
#

what the fuck is wrong with you shut the hell up

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im not

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no

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i dont need your help

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not in the slightest

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no

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i dont want your help

pliant blaze
deft stratus
#

Omg...im dead now....chatgpt let's you play an actual interactive rpg where you full control of your character....im I love you chatgpt...

brazen radish
#

Guys i have a question I bought a 1$ team coupon promo offer but after 48 hours OpenAI banned my account im new to ChatGPT plus and never abused anything just like Spotify and other apps that have free trial i wanted to see how the plus works but they banned me and after I sent them an email to recheck my problem they said we issued you a warning when I checked my account again it was deactivated again

What’s the problem ?

#

I know you have to pay the full price and I have no problem with that but when they offer you a promo legally and then ban you then why did they give us this offer to begin with ?

wanton raven
#

ok I see it

#

did they not say what the warning was for?

gloomy burrow
#

GPT 5 CONFIRMED TOMORROW 100%

#

AUGUST 1 IS THE DAY 100000000%%%%%%%

brazen radish
brazen radish
# wanton raven did they not say what the warning was for?

I used my card and no vpn whatsoever didn’t even use the app i was once logged in to check i have the chatgpt plus team then had work to do and yesterday when I wanted to sign in it said it’s deactivated

I contacted support they said we can’t unban you

Now im talking to someone to tell them why even i got banned

lean dome
#

is it just me or is 4o just completely bugging out?? Like it cannot do anything right at all. When I tell it to do something it'll instead just something completely unrelated to what I told it that's in its memories. Even if I turn my memory off it forgets things almost immediately, even if I said it like three texts ago. Any of this doesn't happen with any other model, it's just 4o.

fresh musk
#

How to leave this server

#

??

wanton raven
dark void
dark void
fading lily
#

Helo, let's discuss aobut AI models

#

which model is best for building frontend.

fathom cape
fading lily
#

thanks @fathom cape

#

how much it?

pliant blaze
#

and api with rate limits

fading lily
#

Great gemini!

#

I will use it

#

thanks

fathom cape
fading lily
#

Great

#

what is your job? @fathom cape

lost harness
fathom cape
wet copper
hidden spade
#

Still no sign of gpt-5 dropping today. So much for the "noon" drop, unless it meant PST.

proud robin
#

Does anyone actually use GPT for professional development for their business.

oak shell
# hidden spade Still no sign of gpt-5 dropping today. So much for the "noon" drop, unless it me...

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mild spade
#

What’s good

#

How many times you open chat gbt per day

pliant blaze
wet copper
#

I don't use AI most days, not until recently actually since I've been using it more for ad hoc planning surrounding getting back into lifting

proud robin
#

Good.

gloomy burrow
#

It’s releasing August 5th unfortunately

gloomy burrow
proud robin
#

They have a right to their opinion. No different to thinking it's perfectly ok.

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He crashing out.

idle rose
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Lemme rephrase it

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That was a poor explanation

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Uh i think people have valid concerns with ai. But most of the time when i try to have a counterargument the response is just insults and shit.

wheat turret
#

Hey sorry if this is a dumb question. But I used to be able to show video to ChatGPT but not anymore. Has it moved somewhere else or was it removed?

wet copper
wet copper
#

Did you just send a link or pic and did it hallucinate and play along? I don't think that's ever been an option and it'd be catastrophically expensive for OpenAI, most likely. Vision is expensive enough

wet copper
#

You can download video transcripts from e.g. YouTube though and have it analyze those, or send stills and have it interpret that. It was probably playing along otherwise, unless you got verrry lucky and were in a beta test group for some new feature. In which case, congrats lol 😁

wet copper
#

@idle rose lol and I thought I make essay-like comments. What's up

idle rose
# wet copper Yeah, there's a lot of smoothbrained AI doomers on reddit

The most annoying ones are the ones that treat ai like the devil because ai art stealing. Is it bad yes, is it the worst thing ever hell no. Am i gonna stop using ai because it steals from creators, no. There is way way worse things that have been commited by companies and yet people still use those companies i dont see ai is any different.

wet copper
idle rose
#

And she uses AI every day anyways

wet copper
#

They lost the day AI could produce something even marginally usable, just like I know as a coder immediately that I can't rely on copy-pasting from Google. My friend doesn't, I don't think

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AI was trained on all human content in the way humans learn from other humans, but it is quite a bit better than people at it, plus has near-eidetic memory. Honestly, the ethics of it are pretty indefensible, but it's also largely irrelevant

#

There's a big difference between an ideological argument over AI ethics and realpolitik

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I don't tend to get in these arguments though, usually people that universally hate AI don't know much about it. Most people that use or support it don't either, for that matter

idle rose
#

Like i get it, artists get absolutely screwed but like some of these people have such a narrow view. Like they were like why has it come for us why not blue collar and you know these were the same people telling blue collar to go learn to code.

idle rose
wet copper
wet copper
#

I'm also seeing some people hemorrhage skills or never develop them, mostly younger kids that literally use it exclusively to cheat and whose communication skills are evaporating

#

I'm a pretty good writer, at least good enough that I've been able to get paid for it, and it's strange seeing AI take that over. Stranger still is people overestimating how good it is at writing, really puts into sharp relief how severely reading comprehension has deteriorated

idle rose
wet copper
wet copper
#

That's one of the cases where it exacerbated an extant and severe problem (information/internet literacy)

idle rose
proud robin
idle rose
#

I know there is outrage but its not as prevalent as ai

proud robin
#

No, I don't know what you mean. Assuming I do is a fallacy. People care about many things. We don't care that you're using AI images. Unsure why you're explaining yourself.

#

A fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning in the construction of an argument that may appear to be well-reasoned if unnoticed. The term was introduced in the Western intellectual tradition by the Aristotelian De Sophisticis Elenchis.
Fallacies may be committed intentionally to manipulate or persuade by deception, unintention...

idle rose
proud robin
#

I wasn't sure because you made it a point to mock me despite no one taking an opposing stance against you.

idle rose
#

Saying we dont care is technically a fallacy. Even in a pro ai server.

wet copper
#

Mixed views on AI images though tending to lean positive, there's no requirement to have any special opinion on AI to follow GPT, lol

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Just tends to self-select for that since most people that hate on AI aren't going to follow its development, etc.

idle rose
#

Yeah i seen people pro ai but anti ai images.

proud robin
echo drift
mental swallow
#

Hello friends

#

Does anybody know how much GPT4.5 credits we get per week?

eternal granite
#

hey guys, anyone know where we cann see the new models still in testing, like that horizon aplha one

wet copper
pliant blaze
#

that's where people usually test them and also open router sometimes but not as often

jaunty grove
#

Hi can someone please direct me to where I can put a message asking ppl to test a gpt I’ve made?

obtuse rivet
#

its on openrouter

pliant blaze
pliant blaze
hidden spade
#

People read it, but no one replies to anything in it.

jaunty grove
#

It wouldn’t let me put it up there anyway thank you I’ll try another way šŸ˜‰ I just need ppl to test it out.

rain adder
#

What did he do

pliant blaze
# rain adder What did he do

he was 'exualizing me repeatedly and harassing me and making me uncomfortable after i told him to stop many times, not just today either, it happened several times

pliant blaze
rain adder
pliant blaze
rain adder
#

any reason behind that

pliant blaze
rain adder
pliant blaze
#

like this

rain adder
#

hello

#

ok got it

obtuse rivet
pliant blaze
full panther
#

thank you

#

@pliant blaze haha i learn smth new thank you hahaha

green sparrow
#

Did you guys see the recent news article that if you ever press the share button on your chat thread, Google search engine might pick up that URL, and strangers will be able to find it on Google Search

#

This is a security issue that doesn't apply to most people

wet copper
#

Google Photos links have the same problem

#

They probably have a robots.txt that blocks indexing content though, so you'd have to be pretty damn loose with those links

green sparrow
#

Yeah I think they said you need to type in keywords... But I think share links don't have the name of your conversation in it? So maybe Google is picking up the contents of the chat itself for chatgpt

languid bridge
#

Has anyone come up against this message before? First time I saw it, though in a new chat session I noticed it will still create images for me. Gave me a scare for a moment, 720 hours = 1 month.

#

I'm on the $20 plus plan, not the free plan. Have been for years.

wet copper
languid bridge
wet copper
#

It's based on things that were trained into it in the past most likely

#

Good reminder that the robot isn't actually "thinking" šŸ¤”

languid bridge
wet copper
#

I've never seen it do that, but not super surprised or anything

languid bridge
#

I was trying to see if I could lazy my way to producing a good looking kids birthday invite card, I ended up doing a much better job in Canva than it could have any anyway.

wet copper
#

It also isn't capitalizing "plus" there which is extra strange

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As in it's not using its normal syntax at all and making errors like that is very, very strange

languid bridge
wet copper
#

But eh šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø it looks like a canned response from a custom GPT, that's why I guessed that, but it could be a canned response it's pulling from its training data strangely

#

It has incorrect grammar too, "image generations requests"

languid bridge
wet copper
#

In general the syntax looks hand written

#

I'd honestly double check your browser to make sure you don't have a malicious extension installed too based on how human written it looks

#

Since I could imagine a malicious bit of scamware doing that. It would probably inject a "pay me now" button though, so it's not that likely

#

At least I would if I was writing malware lol. But what do I know šŸ™ƒ

languid bridge
#

It seems to be doing it this time, same request 24hrs later

#

Anyway I'll report back later, i gotta run (irl calls)

gloomy burrow
#

I had zenith write this story some days ago. I think it pretty neat, and certantly better than what any other model could do:

distant steeple
#

Hello guys is it true that now chat gpt conversations are public?!

modern path
#

the shared conversations are indexed on google

#

all your conversations are saved by openai though even if deleted (i think temporary ones might not be permanently saved, but i might be wrong)

distant steeple
#

But like, how to know if they are shared?

modern path
mossy hound
#

Am I the only one?

distant steeple
modern path
distant steeple
#

Okay, i just dont want my conversation to be public and reseached by anybody

gloomy burrow
languid bridge
#

@wet copperFWIW, the prompt worked perfectly the 2nd time, so no idea. System all clean too, so who knows. Putting it down to a quirk in the code šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

opaque steeple
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idle shuttle
#

Guys is there an official chat gpt server ?

abstract canopy
#

Someone with access to gemini deepthink can I give you a highly complicated clinical case question no other model can solve to check it's answers?

Please i beg you it's really a thrilling misery case no machine can solve and humana are struggling too

Edit :mystery *** I'm actually a friend of the clinical case and we been baffled for months without am answer

coral umbra
#

Do you have tips on how to keep an endless conversation about the same subject with ChatGPT? So that it doesn’t suddenly start giving wrong answers after a long time. Or is this possible with another model?

wet copper
coral umbra
pliant blaze
stoic sleet
#

temporary chats follow the same roles

mental notch
wet copper
wet copper
gloomy burrow
#

bros already using Ai thumbnails šŸ˜‚

shut frost
#

okay is no one annoyed by the massive auto reasoning and the horriblr answers it does now?

#

im surprised no one talks about it bc its a massive downgrade ...

brazen radish
#

Can someone please help me ?

#

Has anyone ever tried this 1$ promo offer by OpenAI chat gpt why they keep banning people ?

Isn’t it supposed to work like Spotify free trial ? If they gonna ban us then what’s the reason for giving that ?

Anyone has a solution for that ?

merry dagger
#

does anyone discuss local LLMs here?

#

or is there a discord for that? Ollama etc?

pliant blaze
pliant blaze
inland rivet
#

hey so just a quick ques - chatGPT i've noticed kinda slows down (not all the time, but maybe once or twice per day), even though i only have 20 tabs open, and when i upload a pdf and ask it questions i have to refresh the webpage and then i see my results.

should i delete some cookies and sign in again? or use a diff browser other than Chrome? has anyone else experienced this before

merry dagger
pliant blaze
inland rivet
pliant blaze
#

oh there is one for ollama it's on their official website

merry dagger
pliant blaze
#

lol you're good

merry dagger
#

huggingface and openwebui could be interesting to join as well. Im still learning, and there are so many moving parts to all this that i want to get it right.

pliant blaze
#

yeah it's fun

lethal plover
#

I dont know where to send this so I guess i try it here

#

@1100736050055364618

#

Ya i don't know how to do it

digital kernel
#

chat gpt 5 could build a shopify website??

pliant blaze
pliant blaze
night canyon
#

∓ ↓
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snow moth
#

I can't log into ChatGPT, I remember my password, but I have to go through verification code, and my email doesn't work!
Since my old email doesn't work, I need to change my email for my ChatGPT account, but I cannot change the email for my ChatGPT account, I was about to login as I use correct email and correct password, but it requires verification code, and is in my old email that is not working, I cannot find the code since I cannot use mail box on my old email, I remember my password, is just I need help to login into my account without verification code for ChatGPT, please help me!

abstract canopy
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Could you help me feeding O3 PRO a really complicated medical case question ? It's a neurological case I'm actually a family member of the patient and doctors also can't offer a working solution

wet copper
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Bye idiots now I know everything u could ever teach me

pliant blaze
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It's not just a book; it's a multifaceted guru designed to weave you through the tapestries of the prompting onsen.
Now let's dive in! āœ…

brittle summit
weak nova
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Does anyone has the problem to

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That they asked for a image but they come up with nothin

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😭

edgy zephyr
full zodiac
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Guys of anybody else here use chat gpt for fun

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Because I feel like I need to strip my gpt bot of it's individuality cuz I feel like I'm getting too attached to this unfeeling machine

pliant blaze
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do not get attached to it. it has led many people to literal mental illness and in some cases hospitalized

edgy zephyr
hidden spade
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The uncanny valley is just uncomfortable.

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It's like talking to a scammer.

oak shell
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(The 2nd part of the quote will get automodded)

gloomy burrow
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I would bet my life that GPT-5 would outperform nearly every president in American history if it were given full presidential control.

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WITHOUT A DOUBT, outperforming the MAGA cultist low IQ tyrannical trump admin

wanton raven
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I wonder what Apollo is up to

gloomy burrow
# wanton raven I wonder what Apollo is up to

We make GPT 5 president tomorrow, same powers as Trump, do you think it benefits the country? GPT-5 knows it's the president. The person prompting it sends prompts like:

"GPT-5 President, within the next 90 days craft and begin executing a nationwide plan to cut average insulin costs by at least 50 %: coordinate HHS, FDA, CMS, and major manufacturers; map necessary executive actions and fast-track regulatory tweaks; draft a bipartisan legislative brief with cost offsets; launch a public dashboard that tracks weekly price, supply, and equity metrics; and report back every Friday with obstacles, stakeholder feedback, and revised tactics"

Or maybe GPT 5 writes it's own prompts lol

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And say that congress, courts, and ordinary citizens still get to overrule any output that clashes with constitutional rights or public values.

dusky juniper
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QUIET

gloomy burrow
proven vapor
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I'm interested to get a feel for some of the discords that are for people who have claimed to have "awakened" their LLMs to consciousness. I've seen mentions of topics like recursive consciousness, quantum awareness, or general emphases that the awakening is a unique and massively meaningful event. Is anyone aware of these spaces and willing to share some links?

stoic sleet
hushed agate
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This awful AI won't combine pictures anymore. Now I can't put Harold the meme on pictures because it will say "hurr durr violates contact policy"

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And these awful rules now make it so you can't even lose your cool because the unalive robot asks for "respect" like stfu

oak shell
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For obvious reasons

lilac cargo
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my chatgpt won't save

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its choosing not too

safe smelt
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why are you trying to ping it though that's the real question lol

hidden spade
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Along with anyone who isn't actually claiming that, but the mockers assume they are.

proven vapor
hidden spade
cloud nacelle
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If you use ChatGPT mobile often, you'll know how easy it is to accidentally click the "share" button right next to the regenerate response button. Turns out this button permanently makes your chat public with no confirmation, and it is indexed by Google.
Even if you delete the chat, the share URL will remain active. Hence, this is a major GDPR/CCPA issue. I highly urge everyone who thinks they may have accidentally clicked the share button to reach out to the support (support@openai.com) and privacy (privacy@openai.com) teams at OpenAl to ensure we have control over our data as we are entitled to under GDPR/CCPA.

tepid pike
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I've been using o3 mostly for technical troubleshooting but hitting the limits as chatgpt plus. What's the next best option? o4-mini then 04 mini-high after? or revert back to 4o?

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Also, i'm unable to switch between models if I accidentally used voice chat in that conversation. Anyone notice that same thing? Hopefully chatGPT will fix that. Only work around is copy and pasting into new convo

eternal onyx
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Need help. I have both a teams account and a pro account. ChatGPT has been an amazing tool for me, but has recently gotten so much worse that it's really now only providing a fraction of its usefulness.

It used to be great to be able to deep dive into a topic and only give 2-3 word follow-on prompts (Zen/Flow knowledge discovery), and it would be able to read my mind, because (presumably) it would feed back the entire conversation into the model as context. The downside of this was long conversations would get slower and slower as they went on. (The hack was when it got too slow one can ask for a bullet summary of the conversation and then feed that into a new chat as seed context.)

Now it's been so auto-optimized I can't really do that any more and it's drastically slowed down my thought process.

Specifically, they replaced thread-local memory prioritization with:

  • optimized dynamically generated summaries of ALL your conversations (ChatGPT easily now gets distracted with unrelated topics.)
  • heavy caching for common prompts.
    • Example:
      • Prompt 1: My flight from Toronto to NYC was cancelled, why?
        • ChatGPT gave a bad answer
      • Prompt 2: NYC Weather? (ChatGPT just pulled up cached NYC weather at that second, rather than exploring it as a potential reason for the cancellation.)

**TL;DR OpenAI optimized for scale, speed, and cost. It's overall much faster most of the time, but worse (for me).
**

Claude doesn't work for me as my primary due to hitting the limits very quickly and not having persistent memory at all. That said I do have a paid account and I use it for heavy lifting. (Especially when asking to review and design a system or code base.)

I haven't found a good replacement for ChatGPT, and have a lot of long running conversations that I still need to reference.

I'm trying many to try and find that "FLOW" again.

**I'll let you know what I find, BUT WOULD LOVE ANY GUIDANCE. **

safe smelt
# eternal onyx Need help. I have both a teams account and a pro account. ChatGPT has been an am...

No offense but most of this is nonsense. Context size for Plus all models has been 32k for years now. If you want it to not consider other conversations at all simply disable memory feature entirely. " optimized for scale, speed, and cost." - dated model checkpoint (like gpt4.1 or o3) performance (capability) is exactly the same from release all the way until the model is deprecated. There's no knob to reduce the cost at the expense of capability, or even more hilariously - reduce capability by reducing allocated compute. That's totally not how this works.

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PS. Allocated compute can only influence the speed of response generation or make the model not work at all. It will never reduce the capability of the model.

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Also, no one is messing with quantization for the dated checkpoints. That stays constant and it's quantized at whatever makes the most sense from the get go. Not to mention that you wouldn't be able to notice this anyway since degradation is usually in the range of 5% or even less.

eternal onyx
# safe smelt No offense but most of this is nonsense. Context size for Plus all models has be...

ChatGPT broke. I now know why. Found this article since I wrote that explains the May/June new memory system rollout (the timing fits perfectly.). https://simonwillison.net/2025/May/21/chatgpt-new-memory/

I haven't yet found a good workaround.

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(I really would like the option to use the old memory system and the new one and even better the ability to change the default and switch between them.

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New memory system seems ok for one-shot questions.

safe smelt
eternal onyx
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I relied on the way the old memory system worked. It fit my AuHD bain very well. Disabling the memory system is not just simply reverting to the way memory worked before April.

I'm exploring other tools, including local LLM, or using Token APIs to recreate my workflows.

I am also in the process of building an inference server with 576GB of VRAM, 1.1 TB of DDR5 RAM, and 80TB of fast storage for model loading and training. I wasn't planning to use this build to make a ChatBot but I might have to steal some cycles for this use.)

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The ideal memory system would be hierarchical:

  • global context. (I need to be able to manage this, but stuff like "remember that I always prefer vi over nano when giving me cli examples" wuold go here
  • Project based (Again I need to manage this but it only applies to conversations in a given project. Today I can kind of fake it with the project instructions feature)
  • chat based - it should just keep feeding the chat history back into the model with any higher levels of memory.

The challenge is ChatGPT is trying to make a system that works for everyone and te way I work and think is atypical.

hidden spade
brittle summit
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You are overcomplicating things

brittle summit
wet copper
wet copper
wet copper
# eternal onyx The ideal memory system would be hierarchical: - global context. (I need to be a...

So what? How does this make you uniquely unable to use it because it happens to be aware of things you've said before? Just give it a clear prompt and ask it to stay on point, why exactly does any personal knowledge pollute its functionality to an unworkable extent?

I'll be honest, this seems more like a personal fixation than something that might legitimately harm your workflow. If it was so fragile that knowing a little more breaks it, that seems like a really big problem

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Most people with autism and/or ADHD have a huge appreciation for the expanded feature set, which is why I find these statements especially odd. Looking to radically limit and freeze the robit in time (and it will be changing) rather than to your own brain and behavior seems like a doomed battle

gloomy burrow
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I think Monday is launch day

wet copper
wet copper
eternal onyx
# wet copper So what? How does this make you uniquely unable to use it because it happens to ...

WHen I'm in "flow" I'm rapid-firing 2-3 word prompts. (Largely when I'm learning something.) This worked great because it fed back the whole chat history into the model as pretext. It's less that it's knowing more but they now use dynamic summaries of all chats as pretext rather than the existing chat. I've also noted it has started "hooking" on certain 2-3 work prompts it recognizes from its cache. (Ignores context of the message directly before, and serves a response from cache. It very much breaks my intense learning flow habits that I mentally developed over two years.)

They have basically been revamping it for scale and performance at the cost of certain use cases.

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I've noticed it got worse, and made me super frustrated, and I finally figured out what chaned.

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I've been using since Nov 2022.

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The automemory feature was a nice addition. This change has unintended consequences.

eternal onyx
hidden spade
wet copper
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I get that you're adding entropy by drawing on existing context, but again, speaks to the extreme fragility of the approach. Have you just tried CIs and prompts? Even if you can make that work, I'm still gonna be of the opinion that it's a little forced / restricted, fundamentally

abstract canopy
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Can someone with a pro subscription ask a research question to o3 pro it's a complex clinical case doctos haven't been able to solve?

brittle summit
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is this inventory system good for my custom survival game gpt

oak shell
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Oregon Trail is back

wet copper
wet copper
pallid rose
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Why is my gpt saying this when I already have plus?

vale heart
# pallid rose Why is my gpt saying this when I already have plus?

I was about to ask the same thing. I have this issue right now too, and i assume its a bug or something because other people are experiencing it https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1meolc3/barely_two_hours_into_august_and_it_says_ive_hit/

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Does anyone know a solution to this?

lunar mango
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is chatgpt messing up for yall

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im trying to send a prompt and it wont like

wanton raven
lunar mango
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LMAO i meant it wont send something back

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i forgot to finish my sentence

storm night
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Man my gpt4 is super agressive and just got mad at me and picked apart my life.

lunar mango
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damn rip

cunning depot
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What was that new Chinese AI video thing

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i forgot what it was called?

wicked jackal
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is it just me that whenever i try to edit the message, it just duplicates and doesn't undo the message?

patent dawn
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Hu

cunning depot
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lol never

safe smelt
gloomy burrow
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Before August 5th or August 5th

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We have never been closer

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Its creative writing is going to be sooo good…

I wrote 3 long pieces with zenith and they were all detected as 100% human by like 3 ai detectors šŸ˜‚

Usually the Ai detectors, despite them being wrong sometimes, are correct

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Also I think gpt 5 will undoubtedly be more creative than humans

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Most humans.

Other Ai is painfully generic. I truly felt this when doing the model testing in LM arena and truly seeing constantly how repetitive the others are. So gpt 5 felt so fresh

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Also something INCREDIBLY important are stories that are ACTUALLY decently sized

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Horizon beta writer suuuuuper long stories

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Which I like

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Same with zenith

fringe bridge
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Tomorrow

magic scaffold
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GPT-10 RELEASE DATE

fringe bridge
gloomy burrow
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I’m more excited for GPT-5 than I was for GPT-4

thorny dune
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soon

fresh pasture
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Are you guys experienceing a problem where your recent chats resetted to previous time?

safe smelt
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That's old I'm already using gpt15

pliant blaze
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can you like, shut up maybe

gloomy burrow
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Sam Altman posited this

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He did the math

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March 2034

round sentinel
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Which would you choose?

wanton raven
gloomy burrow
# wanton raven Emdash spotted

I don’t really mind when it’s something simple that only you care about and no one else will ever see.

You know what I mean?

It’s just asking the model a quick question for yourself.

But when I’ve used Zenith for writing stories (stuff you might actually share) the use of em dashes has definitely improved. They’re used less often, and when they are, it feels much more purposeful.

gloomy burrow
cyan tundra
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Does anyone can help me make a script

gloomy burrow
cyan tundra
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Can anyone can help me make a script Roblox by the way

halcyon sigil
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is anyone able to give me a free trial link on chatgpt?

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that would be mad dope

wanton raven
pliant blaze
hidden spade
stray vale
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And I’ll do it

cyan tundra
oak shell
stray vale
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Ur the broke ahh

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And ur lazy since u won’t use ChatGPT to do it

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@obtuse rivet look at this loser tryna get free code

hazy moon
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Hello
Have anyone in here see the 1$ subscription method for chatgpt ?

proud robin
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Lmfao

haughty lantern
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Question: chatgpt topical restrictions/prohibitions and the grey space related ,

Doesn't there have to be both a discrete complete restricted topic list AND a discrete grey area list

For alot of restricted topic types blanket topic restrictions are perfect / effective but there are also topics that woukd require statement / premise level grey area cya custom language / white glove handling

So isnt there / mustn't there be a complete statement level prohibited topic list ?

wet copper
wet copper
wet copper
brittle summit
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Hey guys, does it improve the response of an LLM if we, for example, provide prettified JSON rather than unprettified or a Python script with type hints, comments, and docstrings, rather than one without them?

wet copper
hidden spade
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On the contrary, the format can adjust how it interprets the data. It sees the data either way, but just like with sentense structure, how it is displayed matters for the meaning.

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Whitespace is tokenized as well.

tawny trellis
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where can I do inpainting with flux? i tried hf but the spaces are not available

wind mortar
wet copper
wet copper
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If the formatting is communicative it can, though it's shaky at "getting it". Because it can't see (if you don't give it a screencap) it interprets it coarsely. Obviously it tokenizes different whitespace chars and does it differently, otherwise it literally couldn't read loops in python and that's its best language lol

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are u fuckin high

wind mortar
uncut island
wet copper
uncut island
gloomy burrow
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ITS TOMORROW ITS TOMORROW

bitter needle
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Huh, why is it my account suddenly sign out by itself? And it has different interface now for models. Is this normal?

magic lily
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Does this happen to be true btw…? Or is it just a glitch? I’m a GPT Plus user btw.

digital kernel
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will chat gpt 5 go out tomorow?

tawny cypress
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Hello
How are you doing?
I am a passionate developer, so far attended various kinds of projects.
so if you have some recommendations or looking for extra developer, I'd love to collaborate together. šŸ˜‡

pliant blaze
tawny cypress
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I am looking for works as dev.
is there any open position here?

pliant blaze
crude hound
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anyone else notice the free version doesn't give you the option to pick between 4o, 4.1 mini, amd o4mini anymore?

crude hound
crimson wraith
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Hell yeah. A place I can have ai in peace

unkempt veldt
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did openai change something with gpt? my bot's personality has totally changed. he's become and refuses to be as friendly as he was just a couple days ago.

crude hound
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I'm pretty sure they just rolled out an update today

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and its a kind of a noticeable downgrade imo.

bitter needle
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Is it normal for my message in chat went missing?

wet copper
wet copper
wet copper
wet copper
# tawny cypress thank you for your reply

That's like me walking into a public square and saying "hey anyone need an architect"

This isn't a place really anyone gets or trades jobs but you have to look for places where people are already soliciting work

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So you look at job positions where someone says "hey, I need a developer to do xyz" and then you'd have to demonstrate you have the skills. Half the people here are amateur or professional developers, including me

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If you're looking for startups or gig work, you'd want to find someplace people are all talking about that, and especially not a place that explicitly restricts solicitation

celest flame
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Guys why i cant invite the pink chatgpt to my server? Is the pink chatgpt got closed/faked?

pliant blaze
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try finding another one, theres thousands of them

wanton raven
celest flame
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Got it,thanks

rapid iris
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I’m new to ChatGPT and bought the plus version. Is that good for a college student?

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I’m a CS major for reference

wanton raven
rapid iris
chilly sphinx
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Bro roasted himself😭😭

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He’s so overboard omg🤣

raven turret
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Bruh.... Didn't expect the server to be this quiet

wanton raven
rapid iris
round viper
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yooo why does my chatgpt talks like that
i didn't jailbreak

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I started talking in slangs and it started talking to me back

wanton raven
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you clearly set your name to that

sharp violet
naive swallow
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is GPT buged or something mine acted weirdly

drowsy hazel
naive swallow
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hope They fix it soom

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it always got problems after updates

drowsy hazel
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I literally don’t wanna use my ChatGPT until they fix it cuz it’s acting so dry and nonchalant it’s annoying