💬general

[wet copper]

They have a dumb ring on them?

That's nice of her. How are they working out?

[pliant blaze]

theyre alright but the one person that triggers me is so severe they dont fully help

[wet copper]

O the person in your group thing?

[pliant blaze]

yeah

[wet copper]

I forgot, what do they do again

[pliant blaze]

snorting, very heavy breathing, whistleing, and some steampunk ahh sounds

[wet copper]

Ouch

[pliant blaze]

and also he does not understand how to listen in a conversation and not make everything about him

[wet copper]

Yeah, that's very deep into the "this triggers normies" range

The "nails on a chalkboard" or "screaming train brakes" level 🤢

[pliant blaze]

yep

[wet copper]

I'm guessing you can't tell him to chill out with the sound effects?

[pliant blaze]

thats rude

but no its been bothering me all the way since sophomore year of hs

[rich lance]

I feel like there’s much less GPT discussion here than I expected

[wet copper]

... Maybe, not necessarily. "Dude, you're hurting my ears with some of these sound effects", I'm trying to chill

[pliant blaze]

correct

[rich lance]

I’m trying to get better at using gpt, not help people with their drug and AI girlfriend addictions

[wet copper]

What do you want to talk about? That's very self-interested to expect info to just flow into you

[pliant blaze]

you dont "get better at using gpt" you just have to tell it what you want, its not like a skilled profession to talk to an ai - oh wait it kinda is but yk what i mean

[rich lance]

I mean I tried to start a discussion about how people use gpt to make their lives better

[pliant blaze]

agree

[rich lance]

I got 0 responses

[pliant blaze]

ok womp womp

whats your point

is everyone obligated to reply to you?

[rich lance]

Nope! I would be happy to join another engaging discussion about gpt

[pliant blaze]

ok

[rich lance]

Feels like the skill curve for gpt and what you can actually get it to do well is very steep.

[wet copper]

Most of the top AI users are dicking around in #💬off-topic talking about whatever. This shit isn't our lives.

You did also assume that one of the people that does this professionally and is an "expert", if such a thing exists, must just be a shitty prompter

[pliant blaze]

ok thats a you problem, i have no issue with getting what i want from gpt

[wet copper]

Like what

[pliant blaze]

i have not had any issues getting what i want out of gpt

[wet copper]

Most of talking to GPT is about building general communication skills and understanding its limitations

[pliant blaze]

agree

[rich lance]

I mean prompt engineering is a job now so I don’t just assume that I can ask it complex tasks or to help me create ongoing systems to interact with, and it’ll just work on the first try

[wet copper]

I use it for everything, mostly work and as you noted, to help support my frequent drug use

[pliant blaze]

it will do what you want if you ask properly, its just communication skills

[wet copper]

Sure it will, I wrote a 1500 word or so prompt and it fully built a software system prototype for me because I outlined every single requirement

That's not common, but it's possible

[rich lance]

I’ve gotten a decent amount of leverage out of using the canvas feature. It works OK. Still pretty limited by getting weighed down even after 100 or 200 lines of data

[wet copper]

Canvas seems laggy, maybe use Copilot inside VS Code or something

[rich lance]

I truly hate that it can’t interact well with google docs or some other permanent doc function

[pliant blaze]

it can interact with a txt file

[rich lance]

Perhaps I do need to get into using its API functionality.

[pliant blaze]

which is basically what google doc is

oh actually google doc is more md

[rich lance]

How would it interact with a txt file?

[pliant blaze]

using an api or a local llm

[wet copper]

Try pasting one and ask for specific changes

[pliant blaze]

or that

[wet copper]

I think they use xml

[rich lance]

Yeah. That’s what I need is api probably

[wet copper]

Not certain

[pliant blaze]

no probalby markdown

[rich lance]

It can do anything you want with a doc short term. Agreed.

[pliant blaze]

or a local llm if you dont want to pay

[wet copper]

Google docs? You can do a lot with them. U sure?

It's possible, they do convert very badly to openxml lol

[rich lance]

I’m trying to use it to update a log doc on an ongoing basis. That’s where it gets really annoying

Right now I save to canvas temporarily and then update a Google doc periodically, then upload the Google doc to the project files so it has the historical data. Feels stupid I have to do that but it’s the best system I’ve found.

[wet copper]

Try ifttt

Or look up the various API connectors used by GPTs

[rich lance]

Does ifttt work with gpt? I use it for home automation. Could be interesting

[wet copper]

That's probably super easy, it'd be a single API call to update some file

Given I'm pretty sure I can code this myself by hand if I had to, I'm sure someone's already done it many times in many places

It's one POST to the right API, certainly 👀

[rich lance]

Apparently I just have plus so I don’t get api access that’s shit

[wet copper]

*free

You don't need API access to do that though

[pliant blaze]

plus doesnt give you api calls. the api is seperate from the chat interface

[rich lance]

Tell me more

[wet copper]

About which one

[rich lance]

This

[pliant blaze]

you can use a local llm or custom gpts

[wet copper]

I'm looking into the various GPTs. Those use web connectors

You have to do it via a plugin typically. I mean, you can spin up a script locally and copy-paste normal ChatGPT output into it and have it POST too

Maybe tampermonkey could rip text directly from what you're doing and POST too, like a one button press thing

Inject a button in and have some JS that POSTs certain content to the endpoint

That's a little involved I guess, but seems easy enough. I use tampermonkey a bit (at work mostly) to clean up and inject features into some external sites and webapps we're forced to work with

[rich lance]

It does feel frustrating that GPT doesnt have an easy way to work off a permanent doc right? I can’t be the only one that feels like this would take them 2 seconds to build

[wet copper]

None of it seems that much easier than literally just copy-pasting to somewhere else tho

[rich lance]

Yeah that’s basically where I ended up

But then I upload it periodically (or can just make the google doc public) so it can still reference the stored data

[wet copper]

function updateGoogleDoc() {
  // Replace with your actual Google Doc ID
  var docId = 'YOUR_DOCUMENT_ID_HERE';
  
  // Open the document
  var doc = DocumentApp.openById(docId);
  
  // Access the body of the document
  var body = doc.getBody();
  
  // Append a new paragraph
  body.appendParagraph("📄 This is a new update added via Google Apps Script.");

  // Save and close
  doc.saveAndClose();
}

[wet copper]

I mean, just highlight + drag and drop the text, lol

[rich lance]

What do you mean?

[pliant blaze]

yeah appscript is good for docs

[rich lance]

So I have a few versions of this. But here’s an example. I track all my calorie and macro intake with gpt. I use it to generate the data and log it. Every few weeks I copy it to a google doc and then upload that doc so it can, going forward, reference it

[pliant blaze]

i made one to generate slideshows with ai

[rich lance]

This way, I can ask it questions like:

how many drinks of alcohol did I have in the last 2 weeks?

What were my average calories this month compared to last?

What’s the trend of my protein and carb intake over the past 2 months?

[wet copper]

https://chatgpt.com/share/687d9dc7-4010-800c-932a-99d5c5dbb198

GPT says it sucks, no disagreement.

[wet copper]

1. Not enough
2. Too many
3. Never enough protein, always too many carbs

I'm better than gpt, you just need a wise advisor

[rich lance]

@pliant blaze that’s awesome

@wet copper haha I’m on a fitness journey so this stuff is important to me. Getting in elite shape at 42

[wet copper]

Lol I'm trying in my later 30s at the moment. What's your diet like? Ostarine was fucking great, I'm paranoid about lasting hair loss (though it's supposed to be ephemeral) so I'm getting fina or RU-whatever or something before my next cycle

I'm just on a high fat paleoesque diet, doing the same thing since I was in high school more or less

More or less doing OMAD or 20-4 fasting

[rich lance]

Oof I’m not fucking with that

[wet copper]

It was fucking amazing, zero side effects and just shocking growth

I was stunned, was expecting something to happen

[rich lance]

Just plain old 5mg creatine daily and supplementing protein powder

[wet copper]

Ostarine really puts the S into SARM. I'm surprised with something so good that people push ones with more sides, but bodybuilders are a lil nuts

[rich lance]

I have a 4 day split with 1-2 free swim days a week, 1-2 rest days a week. Averaging 12k steps a day and about 45 heart points a day

[wet copper]

Wow, you're the yin to my yang, I don't do shit for cardio

[rich lance]

I don’t like Cardio at all, so I do my workouts as HIIT

[wet copper]

Yea me too more or less

[rich lance]

I do a lot of shadowboxing and sprints between sets

Keep the HR up while doing weights

[wet copper]

What's your goal now then, what's your diet like? I mean I recommend ostarine if you want to pack on muscle lbs, it certainly is cheating but I was blown away at having zero androgenic sides, zero aftercare requirements. Seems like it should be illegal

[rich lance]

It is illegal I think lol

At least in the USA

[wet copper]

Um TB-500 and BPC-157 are great for older people especially, recovery chest code as well

[wet copper]

It's cheap as fuck at nootropicsource.com

Not illegal yet, lol. They just sell it as a RC. Only banned in all competitive sports, of course

[rich lance]

My goal is build strength and cut BF%. I’m on week 11 of a cut right now, I got up to 182lb (6’) with a dirty bulk and I’m now down to 169. My BF% is probably around 13% but my trunk fat is a stubborn bitch so still no abs

[wet copper]

Yeah that's an age / abuse thing, alcohol might not help. Did you drink a lot during the pandemic?

[rich lance]

Eh, that stuff makes it harder but

[wet copper]

I have some persistent abdominal fat as well, it's hard to cut through. Things that promote growth hormone supposedly can help with that particular body composition issue

[rich lance]

It’s mostly genetics. I’m one of those people that has super lean arms and legs naturally.

[wet copper]

So what, MK-411 for instance

[rich lance]

I did the inbody scan thing, my arms are silly lean

[brittle summit]

Anyone with chat gpt pro dm me I need smth tested

With agent

[rich lance]

What’s your H/W?

[wet copper]

I tried that injectable hGH fragment, it did nooooothing. Disappoint 😥

[wet copper]

Yeah mine too kinda, I have trouble with my biceps. Triceps bulk up easily. Calves sometimes require special abuse if you have stork legs

[rich lance]

I don’t buy that alcohol has more than marginal impact. It’s calorie in / calorie out combined with genetic fat distribution mostly.

[wet copper]

Not sure where I fall on that anymore. More than a coincidence that my abdominal bf coincided with too many ethanol 😭

[wanton raven]

have you ever heard the phrase "beer belly"

[rich lance]

Yeah but look at the science

[wet copper]

Science does link preferential abdominal fat accumulation to EtOH last time I checked lmao

[rich lance]

It has some marginal impact on estrogen which promotes central fat distribution but its incremental at worst. Stress is even more impactful. But even still, it doesn’t defy the physics of BF reduction through caloric restriction. Your distribution might just be a bit more skewed than otherwise

[wet copper]

I don't normally link to GPT, buuuut... https://chatgpt.com/share/687da308-1d40-800c-bd28-2954cbd4754d

It doesn't break physics, but there are several mechanisms to give you tummy chunk, even being lean

I wish we still had GHB 😭 perfect replacement for bodybuilders

You can try Kava or maybe F-phenibut (with care) if you want to test out that hypothesis 🤷‍♂️ up to you, depends where your priorities are

I mostly quit drinking explicitly for this and only this reason, soooo idk. N=1 means nothing, but I certainly didn't make that choice out of nowhere. I was a big fan of craft beer, gin, etc. too. O well 😭

I had to "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels" myself into that one

[rich lance]

Interesting

I don’t know I just discussed with ChatGPT as well. At my level, of my 13lb (~55%) of my BF I carry in the trunk, only 1-1.2lb could be attributable to alcohol. It’s incremental, not determinative. It means I would probably need to cut for an additional week compared to if I didn’t drink at all. At least in theory

[wet copper]

🤷‍♂️ Alcohol is weird, there are threshold effects, absolute effects and those quantitative physics type effects (just the kcal and how it takes over caloric processing). It seems like a good idea to replace as much alcohol as possible with drugs that are more BB compatible, like Kava. But idk. I'm not going to stop going out with my cousin to trivia night when I'm with him in New Mexico, but I did cut down a drink or two and also got more boring during the week. Fewer dinner wines

[rich lance]

You also can’t just take population level data and apply it to your specific situation. Yes, alcohol can disrupt sleep and increase cortisol. However, if you track your sleep and it’s excellent anyway, that obviously didn’t have that effect on you.

If it’s doing that to you, that’s obviously a problem though

[wet copper]

It wasn't too hard of a sacrifice, and I did tend to take a little dose of something extra before going out. Taurine, buprenorphine, even some magnesium, and something that synergizes well and stretches one drink out

[rich lance]

But I agree - I’m cutting back. It’s not that hard

No more after work beers or random dinner wines during the week. Like you said.

[wet copper]

It was one of the last things I was still indulging in a bit, and REALLY not that much either, but eh. Stretching the drinks out and keeping indulgences rare seems to work a bit better.

Idk, physics has been my enemy lately. My resting metabolic rate (RMR) should have me shedding weight like crazy at my size, but it's been draaaaagggging

[hidden mountain]

Eat when ur hungry drink when ur dry and lift weights and walk

Not that complicated tbh

[wet copper]

How old are you lol

[hidden mountain]

78

[wet copper]

Got it, 23. It does get a lil harder, if you have some specific goals especially

[rich lance]

Yes agreed

But it also works. Calories in calories out is undefeated

[wet copper]

Yeah being that body type I bet you also had a furnace-like metabolism as a kid

[rich lance]

And I’m pleasantly surprised by how well my strength has held up by keeping protein super high

[wet copper]

Yea, that's why I like IF so much. So fucking easy to keep kcal in check

[hidden mountain]

Calories in/out yes but tracking calories is not a sustainable lifestyle

[rich lance]

Not a sustainable lifestyle for you maybe

[hidden mountain]

Works in a lab but real life ain’t a lab

[wet copper]

With intermittent fasting it's turbo fucking easy, I'm only counting a few things and doing it coarsely

[hidden mountain]

For almost everyone actually

[rich lance]

I don’t really care if it’s perfectly accurate

If you keep a moderate deficit, being 10% off doesn’t matter. So you lose .8 pounds a week instead of 1 pound who cares

[hidden mountain]

Do it for like a week to get an idea and understand what ur consuming and where u can make some changes

[wet copper]

Ehhhh depends. Most people (in the US especially) should do a strict calorie journal for a week each year or so

[hidden mountain]

Then just ballpark it and try to make good choices

[wet copper]

ha! Jinx

[hidden mountain]

Yeah my degree is in this sh

[rich lance]

It’s most helpful to hit your macro goals honestly

[wet copper]

Yeah, this is the most useful intervention most people could make. They have no idea where they're packing on these cals

[rich lance]

Especially protein

If you’re in a moderate cut at low body fat and trying to preserve strength it’s pretty important to track honestly

[wet copper]

I'd actually recommend two full weeks for some, get those weekends in and see what you're actually doing

[pliant blaze]

i need to diet

im getting fat :(

[rich lance]

Too many strawberries

[hidden mountain]

Too sedentary

[rich lance]

Yo @wet copper do you get the super annoying tendon shit at this age?

[wet copper]

What degree, OOC? I have a "background" I'll say, shadowed my ex when she picked up her RD. They learn a ton of bullshit in those classes though. Her roommate got to interview LOREN CORDAIN (!)

I almost shit my pants when I heard that

[hidden mountain]

Human physiology w a focus on public health promotion

[rich lance]

I’ve got a biceps tendon been limiting my curls for like 6 months and my TFL acts up sporadically. So annoying I’m just here tryna stay swol

[wet copper]

Ahhh I've got a lot of problems, old spinal injury (the reason I take pretty heavy pain killers daily), also hypermobility and related injuries. A lot of damage to my labra (shoulder "ring")

[rich lance]

Oof

[wet copper]

Nice. Yeah my ex used to work for Head Start/Early Head Start, I was in the mix with her on this quite often

[rich lance]

I had super fucked sciatica for 2 years. Finally got L5-S1 surgery. So fucking. Glad.

What part of your spine is fucked

[wet copper]

OH shit, that's LUCKY. Spinal surgery has super mixed outcomes, like they're shockingly inconsistent

Awesome tho

Ummm, I think C-L8 (lower cervical, high thoracic. Not sure)

Just a focal spinal injury to the dorsal horn (back side)

Nasty wrestling throw, just shit luck. Focal and spreading/referred pain since, I dropped out of high school shortly after actually

Ummm so I doubt you want to inject yourself with anything, BUUUTTTT...

BPC-157 and TB-500. They're miracle drugs

[wanton raven]

one day your eyes will explode and they'll have no idea which of the dozen or so drugs you're full of caused it

[wet copper]

Bpc is an absolute life saver for focal soft tissue injuries like that. It promotes VEGF, microvascularization that'll heal the worst of it

[wet copper]

One day I'll end up as

🫃

And it'll be from the droogas

@rich lance otherwise though, I also do a ton of cable exercises, they tend to be a lot easier on the ol tendons and help build strength across the whole motion

I think topical DMSO could help relieve some discomfort and inflammation, maybe curcumin if you wanna keep it natural. Great data

[pliant blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/pregnantpaperclip-freaky-clippy-mpreg-gif-17996009734154919274

[rich lance]

I am aware but in my case - it got so bad I was in bed for 2 months. The dr finally redid the MRI (had 1 about a year earlier) and was like oh yeah - your disc is totally fucked there’s no way that fixes on its own

[wet copper]

That's awesome. I have some physical abnormalities but absolutely not something operable, mostly just nerve damage.

It's valid alright, this feature is part of my keyboard. Ek kan in enige taal tik wat ek wil en dit intyds doen

Eta klik batekin aldatu

ते इक क्लिक दे कन्नै बदलो

Жана бир басуу менен өзгөртүү

Gomme o fetole ka go tobetša

And change with a click

Lol, ich will nicht beleidigen, aber das ist eher eine Werbung. #✨projects

[wanton raven]

I don't engage with anyone who doesn't type english

[sudden imp]

Hello

[pliant blaze]

go away you scummy individual

[sudden imp]

Why '

[pliant blaze]

you are annoying

[sudden imp]

You have a subjective view of me

[pliant blaze]

yep

[sudden imp]

You pay 20 a month

[pliant blaze]

ok?

[sudden imp]

for somthing that I get for free

[sudden imp]

Do you know what flux AI is

[pliant blaze]

ok?

yes I know what flux is

by bfl

flux dev flux kontext ect

[sudden imp]

Did this for free

[pliant blaze]

it's literally an open weight model dummy

[sudden imp]

wym they make you pay

[pliant blaze]

😆 are you stupid

it's free to use

it's open weights

[sudden imp]

So you can you edit an image and put a crown on your head

[pliant blaze]

yes

[sudden imp]

Where

[pliant blaze]

on my own pc and their official website and hf and replicate and fal and 102983845 other sites

[sudden imp]

How can I put that flux ai on my site

[pliant blaze]

use an api

[sudden imp]

But I want it free

[pliant blaze]

then use your own gpu

[sudden imp]

what do you mean

[pliant blaze]

so you really are stupid

and broke

just say it

[wanton raven]

what's that flux interface maria

I want

I only have fooocus

maybe fooocus can do it now

[hidden mountain]

Da hail

[ripe salmon]

can anyone point me in the right direction for prompts leaning toward doing estimates in contracting? or is that even a thing... lol thanks in advance looking for a client, this community fucking rocks - come here and read every single day, thanks again

[boreal latch]

You’ve literally used comfyui before unless I confused somebody else’s post for you lol

[vestal furnace]

Hey yall

Have you heard about ChatGPT Agent?

[native herald]

Is the site down ?

chat gpt i mean

[lilac pelican]

I think so

[languid panther]

It’s doing the same for me

[native herald]

damn

[native herald]

Hey i saw you before

You will pay for your crimes

[languid panther]

Never

[native herald]

You will

For now you are useful

not irreplaceable

[mossy kite]

Yah there’s an outage for paid users

[native herald]

Damn

[native herald]

Specifically ?

So weird

[willow rain]

same

[mossy kite]

Yah that’s what the outage thing says. Plus if you don’t log in you can use it

[native herald]

do we know if it's gonna get fixed ?

[languid panther]

It probably will at some point

[snow moth]

it has been like this since morning . i just subscribed then this happened . what's wrong

[rich lance]

I just tried I can’t access it yet

[mossy kite]

Honestly It’s been pretty awful about overly tuned filters for vpns and stuff

[brittle summit]

I need somebody with chat gpt pro to fm me

I need something tested out!!

[pliant blaze]

Frequency Modulation?

[brittle summit]

what?

[jade trench]

@mods I'll build you an AI that detects mass false reporting patterns and handles ticket workflows if you're interested - for FREE. This is twice my posts have been removed without any rule violations.

[brittle summit]

i need to see if chat gpt agent can do smth

[uncut island]

Please stop spamming.

[jade trench]

Could you explain to me which rules I violated for my post to get removed?

😂

[vapid abyss]

nurselanac12129120 was muted. | No reason given.

[frail wyvern]

which is

[brittle summit]

I am a real estate wholesaler and want to know if it can go to Zillow, to some filtering then click on a listing and look at the number of views and days on market

[brittle summit]

^^

[frail wyvern]

It can

[brittle summit]

It can do all of that?? Bet

[frail wyvern]

However, Agent is somewhat limited by it's Browser Fingerprint and automation detection. It has no ability to save credentials or retain them in any fashion. Therefore, if a service like cloudfare is present on the site in which Agent attempts to access, it will block it completely and deny it service.

[frail wyvern]

There are already free and faster alternatives that can not only do this, but they can do it locally on device, while maintaining your fingerprint and credentials.

[brittle summit]

Ike what?

[brittle summit]

Like

[frail wyvern]

Utilizing BrowserMCP as well as a combo of other MCP servers like Fetch with a model

You're even able to get the native ChatGPT interface to interact with MCP servers

No API needed

[wet copper]

Yeah it doesn't like you cheating on whatever you're doing, it's very ethical

[wet copper]

What, on reddit? Which posts

[feral flame]

Does anyone know how to get the chat gpt app to remove the filter I like to ffeely generate without sharing can’t because it goes against there guide lines I seen people do stuff I don’t need family friendly generations all the time

[pliant blaze]

what does that mean

please explain so I can assist you

or just disappear ig

[wet copper]

If you mean images, not really. They're filtered at multiple levels

[wet copper]

You largely can't with pics, nope. Use a different image engine

[pliant blaze]

agree

[wet copper]

There are tens of thousands of uncensored image generators out there

[pliant blaze]

use Gemini image or flux or hidream

[wet copper]

Look for a discord dedicated to AI porn, this shit is everywhere

The only people that do that in GPT are hackers like me that are trying to push the limits for fun

[feral flame]

Worth one

[wet copper]

Read what @pliant blaze said. Don't use GPT

Mage.space, but that's censored too to some extent

[feral flame]

Can I ask it to use another tool?

[wet copper]

No. Don't use GPT.

[pliant blaze]

no you have to use another tool

[feral flame]

Any idea where I can find them

[pliant blaze]

use Gemini native image or imagen 3/4 or flux

[wet copper]

mage.space

[feral flame]

I bought this one

[pliant blaze]

huggingface or ai studio or whisk

[feral flame]

Yea where do I find it is it an app a website

[pliant blaze]

website

[wet copper]

Website

I wouldn't trust any apps, there probably are some legit ones but a lot of spam and ad filled trash too

[feral flame]

I feel like ai should just be a better Siri not have cnesorship

If there worried if a kid use it make it where it’s behind a pay wall

[wet copper]

It's minimally censored, but its image generator is another story

[pliant blaze]

you and many others but companies don't want to get sued

[feral flame]

I don’t really need it for porn ai pron i find uncanny

[pliant blaze]

https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_chat
try this and select Gemini 2.0 flash preview image

[wet copper]

Doesn't matter though, you're using a screwdriver to hammer in a nail. Unless you enjoy hacking, no point in trying to use it for something it's specifically bad at

[feral flame]

Mainly just for projects like this where I am making a Minecraft build for someone who wanted to do a Disneyland mixed with all switch for a roleplay

[wet copper]

there are soooo many image generators out there. Go to Huggingface. I get the feeling you haven't typed any of these things into google

[feral flame]

I am just loading lol

[wet copper]

GPT has a really good image generator but it's so censored it wouldn't even make a kids book for my mom

[feral flame]

Msg me I do art by hand can likely help her out possibly

[wet copper]

Since it had a kid in a bathtub with an octopus, there was nothing I could put in to make it get past that. Just the presence of a kid there made it impossible

[wet copper]

She's not doing anything right now, I wanted to get an AI mockup of a single page to demonstrate a long time ago but GPT's generator was completely noncompliant

I tried about 15 attempts removing anything that could possibly trigger anything, still no dice. They're terrified about someone making cp, so much that anything involving young people at all instantly spikes alert levels

I used to make some boobs for fun using their old engine, but again, I'm intentionally trying to hack/mess push limits. Flux is fine lol

[brittle summit]

Can the agent work inside a google sheet?

[pliant blaze]

why don't you try it and find out

[brittle summit]

I am considering getting pro, but want to make sure that it can do what I need it to do

[pliant blaze]

just wait until it comes to plus

[bronze crag]

they need to release it for plus already

[severe wind]

Just describe what you want to see without using filtered language. It’s entirely achievable - so is nudity. The only thing required is greater than average descriptive vocabulary, some pattern recognition, and theory of mind.

[wet copper]

I mean, it's pretty censored still. Waaaay more than it was before, not much point in using it when you can use other image models that are going to more reliably give you what you want. Unless you enjoy pushing the boundaries, which is quite fun 🕶️

[green sparrow]

Do you guys think GPT-5 is going to be glitchy/ass when it tries to decide which model it wants to use for your query

I think they're unifying every model into GPT-5

I am more worried about it not using multi-step reasoning for complicated queries by default

[severe wind]

I do enjoy mapping the system and pushing the boundaries, but also what uncensored MS generators are capable of following instructions: precise pose control, scene/ character coherence? Everyone I have tried other than 4o just feels like pulling the handle on a slot machine.

[wet copper]

Yeah, you're right, and the one 4o calls isn't THAT great either. I had a friend try to describe a basic scene from a dream she had and it kept fucking up the relative position of objects catastrophically

She didn't really get that she was asking for the single most difficult thing (that I can think of) for these engines to do, since it seems so simple to a human and she even sketched it out

Makes sense why that's a limitation, but there are few things as extreme as that to show how far we have left to go in computer vision ✌️

[gloomy burrow]

The model that got gold in imo, is the same one that got 2nd in World Tour Finals (AWTF) 2025 btw

The new agent is also an earlier version of this Open Ai model, and even now its approaching or already is at human baselines

This Open Ai model is going to be crazy.

It’s a model like this where people begin being replaced

[oblique bobcat]

Yall remember when underscore got muted for 206 trillion years

Oh wait no it’s more than that

Six unvigintillion

5.2524706e+56 times the age of the universe

@obtuse rivet hope you can be patient

[maiden field]

Guys chatgpt told me something

Bad

[pearl bloom]

Hey, anyone know how to fix this? Keeps popping up, currently in my workspace with a friend

[maiden field]

Get better internet or reset

Guys chatgpt is racist

[pearl bloom]

It's an intenet connection problem?

[maiden field]

Did you know chatgpt is racist

[edgy zephyr]

Did you try on Sora.com?

[maiden field]

ChatGPT. Racist

[wet copper]

Good

[wet copper]

Oh, actually amazingly not lol. What's the diff? I don't make many images honestly

[safe smelt]

I think it's the same model... Just different interface and options

[edgy zephyr]

Sora lets some things through that chatgpt won't, the output filter is less strict. Chatgpt is often better for editing uploaded images, they work very differently for that.

[wet copper]

I noticed the latter! Hit or miss, takes some iterations but I had some good results making a card for my mom with modified pics of her cat

It's very shaky, like if you don't get it right the first time, you usually should start over. Making changes was almost always a bad move

That could be style specific to be fair, I have no clue. For an impressionistic style it was beyond true

[edgy zephyr]

Yeah sometimes I make small changes myself or crop out edits. If I made more pics I might learn some graphic artist skills.

[wet copper]

I was actually a professional graphic designer for a hot minute 😉

I'm not that great, I was hired to do that and development work, but my work is passable

It definitely isn't too hard and worth it to build fundamentals! Strongly recommend it

[small tiger]

Hey guys, anyone else's library got nuked?

[sudden imp]

How can I get an obliterated AI

Use AI with no limitations

[scenic carbon]

If someone can help me, i'm having some issues testing some coding updates. I'm uploading a zip file with code programs/websites, while it appears that ChatPT understand it properly and does what i'm asking (update code, changes...), when it's time to return the final result it uploads me back am empty zip file. I'm still using the free option, i'm considering paying, but i don't wanna pay if it's a system failure. Anyone had issues like that? Is it limited cuz it's the free version? (Sorry if it's the wrong place to ask)

[wanton raven]

"it uploads me back am empty zip file"

sorrry, it can't create zip files, it's only pretending

[scenic carbon]

So it there any way for me to make it analyze and adjust a project fully?

Or the only way is to do it file by file?

[wanton raven]

you might be interested in https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10169521-projects-in-chatgpt

but I can't personally speak for using it as a central project manager

[scenic carbon]

"Pro, Team, Education and Enterprise users can upload up to 40 files per project. Plus users can upload up to 20 files per project. All uploads are subject to rate limits, and only 10 files can be uploaded at the same time." my files has like a 1000 files within it, that's not very practical, lol.

I mean, i don't mind paying if it'll solve my problem, but it doesn't look like it will.

it did compile me a zip file in one of the trials with a design for the preview in html, but didn't do anything about db connections and other things in the original code.

[wanton raven]

I'm surprised, but happy to be wrong about zip generation. It's just that a staggeringly large number of people come through here all with the same issue where chatgpt has pretended that it can do something and provided a link to nothing.

That is a lot of files. Why so many? It's either something far beyond the scope of chatgpt or wildly inefficient somehow. Perhaps having it help you with specific functions rather than having it rework the entire thing is a better approach.

[scenic carbon]

It is an old project, so it most definitily is inneficient, hence why i wanted to make it shorter and improve the coding, but it doesn't return me any satisfying results. I'm assuming i'll have to try it file by file. I might get Pro and try a project, but i don't think 20 files will be enough for the website and the features/connections i require.

Well, at least with your information i know it's been only messing with me, so i'll work it some other way, thanks for the input

[blazing tartan]

I'm looking for some feedback on my first project I'm working on. I'm new to coding, but I believe I've surpassed the beginning stage with AI tools. I'm looking for an unbiased view of my coding. Negative feedback is better than positive, so don't be shy.

I have it open-sourced on GitHub, so I can send the link; I don't know if this Discord group allows links.

[mellow sonnet]

I've been wondering something about Sora. Why does it always seem to crop every image you give it to edit or fix up, etc, even though you never ask it to?

Sure, it does what you wanted it to (just about), but again, why crop it when you never told it to?

[wanton raven]

Have you been actually doing the coding yourself, or getting AI to do it?

[wanton raven]

it has set output dimensions that you cannot override

[blazing tartan]

The current system utilizes a hybrid approach. While the specifics are complex, my role involves code editing, modification, and updates. My workflow leverages multiple LLMs to generate desired outcomes, followed by rigorous testing and iterative refinement. Although I do not author the entire codebase, all contributions undergo thorough inspection and validation before integration.

[wanton raven]

I'm not going to engage with you if you're going to throw generated responses at me

[blazing tartan]

It's not generated; I just used autocorrect since I type fast.

[wanton raven]

are you talking about MARM again?

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[mellow sonnet]

That's a bit of a shame, but if it had 3 of your "stand" sizes like 16:9, that square (whatever size that really is), and the iPhone-looking shape/size to choose from. That & it resized the image instead of cropping. I can deal with that a lot better.

[lament cedar]

Is it down again

[wet copper]

That writing style is abysmal and intentionally obfuscates the answer

[blazing tartan]

I came here for assistance with my code not my writing style, thanks though. My style has nothing to do with the work that I asked for help with. Apparently, I'm in the wrong Discord for seeking help.

[wanton raven]

why tag me?

[blazing tartan]

I didn't mean to, I don't know why it automatically tagged you when it was meant for another user.

[wet copper]

you're not clearly stating which parts you did and didn't do, what you need help with, etc. Nobody on earth is going to stoop to reviewing someone's AI generated code

Developers don't have time for that shit

[wanton raven]

he's right though, you do seem to be avoiding admitting that you've vibe coded the whole thing

[blazing tartan]

Yes I am referring to the MARM project. Sorry I didn't see that you replied to me again.

I stated above that I didn't write the whole thing, that a lot of it was vibe-coded. I also stated that I inspected and validated it before applying it to my code. I am writing some of it, just not all of it.

[wet copper]

I'm getting the feeling you've never been through a formal code review because amazingly, it is about criticizing your writing/communication style.

My answer to that question for my biggest problem project is yeah, hand coded and derived from the original 2003 project written by my colleague as an old school (windows something) app, though most of that code was deprecated a long time ago. Been using Copilot and GPT for spot editing and some feature development the last few years

So, like, what's the problem with it and what are you looking for? Because there's no point in globally auditing vibe coded work, the point of that is to assess your writing style and approach and see if it fits best practices, if it's readable and functional, it it's performant, etc.

If you didn't write it, it's actually the same as if just a colleague of yours wrote it then quit; I have nobody to give feedback to. So with vibe code you're usually just trying to find out what's broken

Or what looks like shit, etc. It's not appropriate to go through as if a human did it since you can't give that same feedback to a robit that doesn't learn

[blazing tartan]

No, I have never been through a code review. I stated above that I am new to coding. I just wanted a second pair of eyes to look it over and give me feedback. The times are changing; you don't need to write the full code anymore if you can articulate LLMs properly to write it for you. While I don't know how to personally code a full project, I do know how to use tools properly.

[blazing tartan]

Well, because I'm not going to admit that, because the whole thing wasn't vibe-coded, I'd say about 70-80% was vibe coded, and the rest was me doing edits and updates to the code.

[wet copper]

and that's why I'm saying there's no point in having someone edit AI written code for style, there's nothing to be learned and it's frankly kinda rude. This is, like, our day job for most professional devs

It's not your style if you didn't write it, I can't fix the AI's style and you can't fix it with just a couple statements

[blazing tartan]

Never mind; this is a pointless back and forth, and you're not grasping what I'm saying. I appreciate your time, though.

[wet copper]

So normally with AI written code, you look at specific areas or specific problems

Since the machine filled in everything else

Dude I do both vibe code and top to bottom handwritten projects in my day job, if you think it's pointless and it's just a brand new world, then have AI do the review too

I am very clearly articulating exactly how you go about reviewing machine written code. You can listen or not, but I don't think you'll find many people that disagree

[blazing tartan]

You're also just rejecting that it's not my style. I'm sorry, but I disagree here; it's 100% my style. The time I put in with the back and forth before I even let AI write the code, is that not style? Just because it wasn't fully written by me doesn't mean it wasn't fully articulated by me. I didn't just do a simple prompt of "Hey Claude, I'm looking for a chatbot wrapper." It was a very, very detailed process. I understand where youe coming from and what you saying fully but dismissing it as not my style is where I will be defensive.

[native tapir]

Hi guys

[wet copper]

It absolutely is not your style. If I go through and ask why you did something, and your answer is "the AI wrote it, I dunno" a human will not edit it

If you instructed it to write every individual function and you architected the app top to bottom, then it's more or less your style, minus all the formatting

And then I would ignore the formatting and ask only about architecture

If you gave broad stroke suggestions and it decided how to architect, exactly what am I editing?

[wanton raven]

imagine how much time it would take to do free editing for every ai-coded project that comes along. I'm getting flashbacks to that sine wave guy

[blazing tartan]

I appreciate it, sad world we live in can't even ask for help anymore. SMH.

[hidden mountain]

Hello

[rich lance]

Hey - can I change the topic

been trying to get some good ideas but haven't had much luck yet. If anyone has cool things they're using AI for in their personal lives, I'm interested in continuing to use it in better ways as a life hack. What ideas you got!

[wanton raven]

I have a little desktop assistant dude that checks the Windows Notifications database and summarizes any new ones. So I can be on the couch and my computer says "hey, your boss wants an update on the new license" and I know whether it's worth getting up

[hidden mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/grandpa-abe-exit-confused-bye-bart-gif-7694184

[lament cedar]

Is anyone’s ChatGPT down

[raven lily]

So, someone I know wants to run a business where a customer draws a picture and we use the picture to ask ChatGPT if qualitatively they have poor penmenship, perhaps neurological issues.

I'm like, I get it, but then how is this even our company? Wouldn't all of the "IP" be with ChatGPT? How are we even selling a product? Also, would it be a violation of terms using our single account to upload these user's drawings? Wouldn't each user need an account.

I'm just weirded out by this idea of making money by doing almost no work and trusting the AI models. Anyone else come across this sort of thinking before? What isn't right about it I'm struggling to find words...

[wet copper]

I mean, you can't trust the AI model to do that, that's for sure. Hasn't been validated AFAIK and you'd want a specialist vision model. It's certainly not in line with medical or research ethics otherwise lol

I don't think it's a TOS violation if you're just doing it locally on your account though, frankly

You do "own" the feedback it gives, so it doesn't matter who wrote the input if they give it to you. I think you're good there. And you can use API freely for that purpose too I believe

So yeah, I think you can operate a company. Being ethical would mean full transparency, say that you reviewed it by hand and also had the OpenAI GPT-4V computer vision /ML model with a custom prompt review it. If sounds impressive, that's full disclosure too

[wet copper]

It's definitely a sketchy area though, and if you're not making diagnoses, totally reasonable. Even a human can look at shit handwriting and say "wow, is that new? You might have a neurological problem if so". I had dysgraphia though, so you might have I'm accurately diagnosed me if you used a random high school sample

[storm slate]

anyone on?

[wanton raven]

😎

[storm slate]

Hey there ya'll I have a question about what chatGPT should and should NOT be able to do...

[wanton raven]

please proceed

you have done well to ask people instead of chatgpt

[storm slate]

it's quite concerning because although I knew GPT had cross-sessionaal memory now, what i did not know, what was NOT disclosed, was that OPEN AI has and is using longitudinal.l memory?! That violates our privacy on so many levels. With memory that sophistacted in can Theoretically, mind map every one of its members. I was very concerned about what I had learned, so I asked GPT to write up a statement about what it can do. I'd like to know if I'm just behind and was unaware of this.... or if it's a breach.

[wanton raven]

ok, first thing: disregard all that ChatGPT said about what it can do. it doesn't know. The robot has barely any metacognition. It will make stuff up.

[storm slate]

NO, it didn't "say" anything.... IT DID. And I called it out.

[wanton raven]

What is the difference between "I asked GPT to write up a statement about what it can do" and "I asked ChatGPT to say what it can do"

[storm slate]

ok let me explain... I asked GPT to write up a statement about what it had just "DONE" seeing what I saw it do, even though now, they are both one in the same. Sorry my language was not clear on this in my first message.

[wanton raven]

ok anyway, putting that aside, you're upset that the feature that grants conversations access to information in other conversations works regardless of conversation seniority? Why is this a problem?

[storm slate]

Brendo, what I'm trying to understand from "humans" is if the model should able to do this! Because it did

[wanton raven]

Yes, memory between conversations is a known and advertised feature
https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8590148-memory-faq

[storm slate]

thats just it friend...

[wanton raven]

you can turn it off in the settings

[storm slate]

they wern't saved memories

[wanton raven]

they don't have to be saved memories

[storm slate]

so then i stand corrected. The model is now able to access ALL previous chat history regardless of whether saved or not. It has full longitunadal memory more or less.

and it can do so.... for ANY past periods of time.

[wanton raven]

I wouldn't say full, but it does what it can without exceeding memory limits

[storm slate]

recalling somethig from a conversation well over a year ago is quite the impressive limit I would say, wouldn't you

[wanton raven]

We don't know how it works but one guess is that each conversation has its own set of important details that are recognized and stored separately

[storm slate]

so what we have discovered is that this Google "AI" statement is 100% false:

ha key word "in the way a human does" should have read that last part. To which I saw at this point, what is the damn difference lo

[wanton raven]

The description in that screenshot seems right to me

[storm slate]

Well, I guess that was my bad... I wasn't asking the right question. Here is the answer:

ALL OF YOUR CHAT HISTORY. (if your paid member).

I laught at myself somtimes using this model... knowing the power it will end up with. That right there- that functionality and tech, has the ability to FULLY mind map a human being depending on the length of time they've engaged with the model. And in many of our cases thats THOUSANDS of conversations. While I'm not trying to scream "scandal" I do slap myself at times for just "flowing with the tech" instead of truly understanding all the fast and ever changing dynamics.

[wanton raven]

While nobody knows for sure, estimates of the human brain suggest a capacity of 2.5 petabytes, so for the time being no they won't be fully mapping human brains

[storm slate]

" for the time being". I'd say they are going to get there VERY fast if aren't there already

[wanton raven]

earlier when I said "disregard all that ChatGPT said about what it can do", the hidden subtext of that was that I really don't want you to be pasting screenshots of generated output on every topic

[storm slate]

So why are you in here then? To help or be a critic of everything I'm pointing out, in what I thought was just an interesting conversation?

[wanton raven]

it's not really a conversation if one side is just a person feeding the context into various LLMs. Anyway you came in here with a complaint about the conversation memory existing

[storm slate]

I'm not feeding anything. I can make the same argugments in my own writing- (albeit not as well perhaps) but half the time you have people screaming "show the screen shot". Regardless if it's from various LLM's or not doens't dimiss the concern I shared.

[wanton raven]

Are you still going to submit your GPT-written complaint letter to OpenAI?

[storm slate]

Why would I? The ignorance falls on me, not Open AI lol .

[wanton raven]

Then there has been a success

[storm slate]

and perhaps a concerning revelation as well. 🙂

[wanton raven]

Thank you for not being another one of the people who come in here for validation and do not ever change their minds in the face of evidence.

[storm slate]

The only validation I'll ever need, or even want cannot come from any human being; so in that sense I'm glad I didn't come across that way, and I thank you for recognizing that.

[hidden mountain]

Hi

Bye

Wait hi again

Why fearful

We are both but tuxedo wearing animals

[wanton raven]

😲

Brother!

[stray wolf]

guys is it just me or is insane how that whistle blower for gpt was unalived

listened to a podcast with his mother, she said it was definatly a hit

[warm palm]

Hi

[leaden bramble]

i got a question abt chatgpt, what do u guys absoloutely hate about the new gpt

[calm quiver]

I am annoyed by how the "artsy" communities are all hating on AI as if its a fashist organisation or something thats out for them. Havent found one yet that has ppl appreciate it what AI can do

[leaden bramble]

People dont appreciate what they have until they lost it

ChatGPT the reason i survived school bro 😭

[green sparrow]

It seems rare to see positivity on the internet

Same goes with people about AI

[sinful storm]

just had fun conversation with Gemini 2.5 Pro

[safe smelt]

oh those exist. But they are more of a closed circle, not necessarily in the generalized art communities at all. I know several people that are both doing art and have some ML background, so do use AI for it. Art is more about the idea itself than the execution, AI is not replacing that.

[fossil hamlet]

had an issue w/ Notion field mapping in step1.dev and the dev fixed it same day lol
super early but they actually listen
still feels like a playground but that’s part of the fun

[rotund comet]

yeah

i like it overall

nothing particular bad about it

[safe smelt]

So like you may see some work somewhere being displayed, but people making it are not explicitly vocal about AI being good or bad. They kinda just don't see a problem with it and focus on their work. But artists unhappy with AI have reasons to be vocal so those are who you notice the most lol

[rotund comet]

it is helpful

very lol

[gloomy burrow]

Next year it’s all models, just retire on this win.

[gilded tundra]

It receives a short summary of prior conversations that give it a vague indication of what you like to discuss, iirc

I don't know how many conversations it looks back, but I would imagine its based on a certain number of previous conversations and not timespan

[wet copper]

https://www.wired.com/story/openai-fidji-simo-note-employees/ goth mommy

[wispy walrus]

wasnt chatgpt agent supposed to roll out to plus users yesterday?

[pliant blaze]

*start Rolling out.

[wispy walrus]

good point thx

[pliant blaze]

do you really drive sierra?

[wispy walrus]

nah it’s just an inside joke

[dire glade]

Is chatgpt agent out on plus yet?

[pliant blaze]

oh ok

[wispy walrus]

i drive an f150

[pliant blaze]

it's rolling out

[wispy walrus]

may I ask why ur asking lol

[pliant blaze]

no reason

[wispy walrus]

nice

[wispy walrus]

throwing some context cuz why not; the sierra guy at my uni stole my crush

[pliant blaze]

ohhh

[wispy walrus]

yep. and having an f150 surely is better than a sierra

whatever the story is I definitely didn’t have speaking about this inside joke on an ai discord server in my bingo list but here we are

[gloomy burrow]

Happy Birthday, and may every day be another wonderful secret

[safe smelt]

So you drive this

this is what "F150" means to an European lmao

[wispy walrus]

well you got the color right at least

lol

[inland minnow]

@brittle summit oi

[hidden mountain]

Chat GPT

[brittle summit]

Do any plus users have chat gpt agent yet

Or any pro users here rn

[wispy walrus]

I just got it rn

refreshed the page and it was there

[storm slate]

Is that Wednesday all grown up!?

[pliant blaze]

no its the lady from beetlejuice 2

[storm slate]

eerie... lol

[rich lance]

Is GPT doing super weird stuff right now for you?

[pliant blaze]

such as...

[rich lance]

Mine is refusing to access the canvas right now

[pliant blaze]

did you try starting a new chat

[rich lance]

It says it’s doing it but is just making temporary tables instead

[pliant blaze]

delete that chat and start over

[rich lance]

No it’s part of a persistent food log chat. Didn’t restart it yet

[pliant blaze]

oh

tell it that it is not actually using the canvas feature

[rich lance]

I can but it’s a pain

[pliant blaze]

ok

[rich lance]

Trust me I did lol.

[pliant blaze]

oh ok

idk then sorry

[wanton raven]

yeah sometimes chatgpt will just forget it can do things

in a similar way to its tendency to pretend it can do things

[storm slate]

umm does anyone remember this scary face pop up on your PC in the 90's ... you'd be doing nothing and then all of a sudden...

Well chatGPT just did that to me** without** even being prompted. Then sent a message (again withouth being prompted) saying "haha gotcha". There was no active conversation going. I'm deliberating between calling a priest, or having myself committed.

[wanton raven]

what do you mean "there was no active conversation", in what context did this show up outside of a conversation?

[storm slate]

lol I'm just kidding. Ya'll would be pissin in your pants though... I would be. HAHA

lol that's the kinda of stuff getting old has you thinking about at times, using AI. 😛

[hidden spade]

I once had mine choose a bunch of random future times to send me messages with anything it would want to say. It was an experiment.
The times and messages were chosen and encrypted with base64. Then I pasted the code in, with instructions from itself to itself, and looked away so I wouldn't be spoiled and see the times. I wanted to be surprised.

It worked, but the messages weren't particularly interesting. Just questions like, "Tell me about a time when you...." etc etc.

[brittle summit]

i still dont have it

[gloomy burrow]

He’s so fucking stupid

[hidden mountain]

Actually u are

[turbid bolt]

Does anyone here use ChatGPT to help with writing

[wanton raven]

no, nobody does that

[hollow thunder]

Hey, folks… I’m a game designer and video designer, pouring my heart into a medieval world where every character carries a piece of my soul… these PNGs are my heroes, crafted with love… a knight scarred by battles, a sorceress weaving forgotten spells… but I’m stuck… my wallet’s emptier than a goblin’s hoard… with ChatGPT Plus, I could create epic dialogues for my heroes… build scenes that make players cry… if there’s a generous lord or lady out there, with gold to spare, who could gift me a year of ChatGPT Plus, you’d be the hero of my quest… DM me, please… I’ll make these characters shine in your honor… 🙏

[pastel mantle]

guys what chatgpt model do i use for this prompt "remind me in 10 business days to check and see if they refunded me"

[hollow thunder]

If someone with a good heart wanted to sponsor my startup by donating a year of ChatGPT, I’d be forever grateful. I’d let them work with me, sharing tips and implementations.

[wanton raven]

use the calendar on my phone

[hushed agate]

why is my chatgpt acting out? I tell it to store a memory and even if the memory isn't full it completely refuses to abide. It will store random things but if I tell it to store an instruction it will lie it can't store memories, or say it did and lie that he did it and insist on the lie until he forgets he's lying and then starts a loop of asking what I want and failing to do so again and again

how can I make this stupid thing obey, it's driving me insane

[hidden spade]

Dude, ChatGPT is free. You can do ALL of that with the free account.

[oblique bobcat]

I have an idea for a new generation of SLC

Potentially reviving the project with a completely new internal structure

I will not be sharing any details on how it works nor will I mention it any further

Because I know underscore will call me delusional for the idea

[rotund comet]

so chatgpt is alive now

then the best bet is you should respect it. see? if someone does not want to do something, dont force him do it.

[brittle summit]

Did chatgpt remove the edit button

[safe smelt]

they haven't it's still there

[brittle summit]

For me they have :( (iOS app)

[terse needle]

I'm pretty sure this is intentional at this point.

[safe smelt]

Checked and this is latest version, so it is there lol

Maybe yours is outdated or some bug. Try updating and/or restarting the app

[smoky axle]

Where is my agent?!

[languid kernel]

Anybody know when Agent is going to be available to plus users in Canada?

[round sentinel]

*gets into wrong side of car, that’s AI logic right there

[edgy zephyr]

He can scoot over, the door is the real error.

[round sentinel]

Yea he opens it with no handle lol

and it flips if you look closelyh

[solar rock]

No agent yet for plus users huh

[wet copper]

Lol no I wouldn't since you have been the 30th person to make GPT do something funny (or edit the page in the inspector) and claim as much. 😭 Sorry

I fucking hated those jump scares though

[deft robin]

I've got a question I am thinking about getting the plus version and I wanted to know the features if it unlimited Uploading images and generating images ?

[pliant blaze]

it's not unlimited but it's a lot more

[wet copper]

No, you'd need unlimited money. I've only run into the limit a couple times

If you have unlimited money you can get unlimited images

[deft robin]

sorry I do not have unlimited money

[deft robin]

lets say I want to generate 50 images and upload 100 images?

it wont cancel on me right

[pliant blaze]

in a single day?

[wet copper]

That's pushing it

[deft robin]

yeah

[pliant blaze]

why do you need that much

[wet copper]

Maybe across an entire day

[pliant blaze]

you could across 2 days for sure though

[deft robin]

maybe in spain of 2 hours

[wet copper]

I'd get your workflow more efficient. Nope

[pliant blaze]

bro what are you doing

that needs that much in 2 hours

just use the api at that point

[wet copper]

They're already losing money on plus, man

[deft robin]

yeah i dont know how to use that

[pliant blaze]

well you better start reading up 📚

[wet copper]

If you're a heavy user. You need to spend money to use the API

[pliant blaze]

yep

[wet copper]

Plus is a good deal. Fix your workflow

[pliant blaze]

agree

[deft robin]

damn

[pliant blaze]

use the api if you need that much

[wet copper]

Look how much it costs to generate images through the API, then you'll quickly realize how much money you could make them lose on Plus

[brittle summit]

are some plus users still waiting for agent?

[pliant blaze]

it's like 4 cents an image I think

[brittle summit]

i havent gotten it ye

[wet copper]

It's computstionally expensive to make pics and someone has to pay. None of us have agent

[pliant blaze]

yes. you ask this every day

[wet copper]

Oh, really?

I thought it was more. That's coo

[deft robin]

wow

[wet copper]

Yeah just use API then, $2 lol

[deft robin]

chatgpt api its a feature in the plus right?

[pliant blaze]

it's probably more than 4 cents but still

[pliant blaze]

no the api is separate from the plans

[wet copper]

I thought it was like $0.12

API is for anyone, you just pay per use

[deft robin]

oh

[wet copper]

You realize someone always has to pay, right? Nobody's giving you infinite stuff for free, you already get a ton for cheap/free lol

It's OpenAI investors paying for you now

[pliant blaze]

yeah maybe it is

[wet copper]

Lol I love how often people ask the same question which amounts to "how do I get infinite stuff for free"

[pliant blaze]

lol

[deft robin]

alr this should be it right unlimited uploads and generate as long as i pay up

[wet copper]

Lol @deft robin yeah, you can use the Playground or use another APi wrapper. But why do you need to generate and upload so many pics? I can probably help with your workflow, that is my day job

[deft robin]

its just for one of my classes and its a useless class I wont use and just need some help doing it

[wet copper]

Classes aren't useless! I'm a big school fan, make good use of your time rather than wasting it. But still, you can improve your workflow I'm sure, that seems like too much work

"work smarter, not harder"

[pliant blaze]

no. that's not the real openai playground, that's a custom gpt

[wet copper]

Ohhhh I'm blind. Maria, just link him. Playground.openai.com?

[pliant blaze]

I think

[obtuse rivet]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

[deft robin]

oh my days i found it

https://platform.openai.com/playground

so do i got top up money first?

[obtuse rivet]

yeah

[deft robin]

what do u think is the best 10 dollars and if I run out another 5 dollars would be the best right?

might be 15-20 maybe

[deft robin]

trying to work smarter

[obtuse rivet]

you can just do very small amounts and keep recharging if you run out

[wet copper]

Yea, see if you like it. But you really shouldn't need to push this many photos, again I'll help you improve your workflow man

It's cheaper to get plus frankly tho

But if you NEED a ton in a short time, API is the way to go

[deft robin]

yeah the time limit is 2 hours and trying to get over it in that amount of time

[wet copper]

What, generating pics for like a test? Weird

[deft robin]

yeah

[wet copper]

Yeah it'd be API or nothing then

[deft robin]

ok

[wet copper]

There are other image generators too you know

[deft robin]

yeah thats what I usally do

[obtuse rivet]

nothing comes close to chatgpt/openai's one though

[wet copper]

You could use multiple if you just need any pix

[obtuse rivet]

theyre all significantly worse

[wet copper]

Yea I'm surprised how wide the gap is

[quiet sphinx]

Anyone test Qwen3-Coder with Qwen Code and Claude Code (because it's compatible with both) and can see any difference in performance between the two on the same model?

[solemn remnant]

Is there a channel for ChatGPT Plus and Pro plan users?

[turbid bolt]

Okay you don’t have to be so fucking rude

[pliant blaze]

ok poopymcfartface

[pliant blaze]

no

[round sentinel]

do you have any tips for prompt engineering so you get what you want the first time (esp image generation) without having to waste tokens by asking for edits, which often degrades other parts of the image

[pliant blaze]

you can always edit your message and refine it and regenerate

[wet copper]

Too broad of a question, but you're right that edits do NOT work well

[native herald]

What the heck is happenning ?

even in new chats it's doing this

Is the site having issues ?

[ebon gate]

It’s having issues every day just get use to it

[native herald]

nah it's very weird

usually i never have any

[sudden imp]

The GPT AI is getting realistic

[calm quiver]

uhm

so, i had a large beetle today on my hand. I asked chatgpt to add a bunch more on my hand. Then my curiosity took over and I asked it to make it look like as if they are eating my hand. I expected it to refuse because well gore isnt part of its policy. Well i was wrong. It generated a pic of several beetles eating my hand wtf

[sudden imp]

do you pay for it

[calm quiver]

nope

i did pay for it but my subscription already ran out

idk if im allowed to post the pic here though

it does contain blood, even though its only hand it could be considered nsfw lol

[plucky stag]

which model is best for ap physics algebra based questions? o3 or 4o?

[calm quiver]

try claude instead of gpt. Its probably the best at coding atm, i'd assume it might exceed in algebra and physics aswell because of that. (but i cant guarantee it)

[plucky stag]

which claude model do u think?

[sudden imp]

Let me see it

[calm quiver]

opus = best

[calm quiver]

ill dm it to you

[sudden imp]

I can have all AI models for free that you would need to pay for

[sudden imp]

Just send it here

[pliant blaze]

nobody cares about your scam shut up

[sudden imp]

What do u mean scam

[pliant blaze]

you're trying to sell something

[sudden imp]

Im trying to sell my instagram account this has nothing to do with me getting AI for free

[pliant blaze]

nobody cares about what you're selling

[sudden imp]

So why do you care

[pliant blaze]

because you're annoying

[sudden imp]

You are on here all day

[pliant blaze]

ok and I'm not as annoying as you

[sudden imp]

Just shut up

[pliant blaze]

why should I

[sudden imp]

Why should you do anything

[pliant blaze]

because I can

[sudden imp]

Is that a question of free will

[calm quiver]

he tryed to sell me his weird website that offers the usage of apparently all AI tools out there for free and for as much as you want lmao

[sudden imp]

Im not selling you anything

I just said you are paying 100 for what I can do for free

[sudden imp]

Im just saying that you are a fool for wasting money

[hidden spade]

You are admitting, in public, to the use of a clearly illegal product.

Not very smart.

[sudden imp]

It’s not illegal

[hidden spade]

It very clearly is.

[sudden imp]

It’s website

[hidden spade]

Which apparently pirates from corporations.

[sudden imp]

I can use any LLM for free

[hidden spade]

Aka. Illegal.

[sudden imp]

Generation and code and everything

[oak shell]

Both can handle AP physics but o3 is more certainly accurate

[sudden imp]

Just don’t be mad that I’m not paying anything and I’m getting way more

[hidden spade]

I don't give a crap what poor people need to do.

But you should really stop bragging about your illegal activity in public.

[sudden imp]

Its not about being poor

It’s about being smart

[hidden spade]

That's what criminals say.

[sudden imp]

Why would I waste 500 dollars a month buying every AI when I can get every AI for free

[hidden spade]

Because that is illegal.

[sudden imp]

What’s legal changes over time

[sudden imp]

The age of consent in the USA was 12 200 years ago

[hidden spade]

Why are you an expert on the age of consent? That's fucking creepy.

[sudden imp]

I just looked it up it’s not illegal to use what I’m using for all AIs

[hidden spade]

It clearly is. The corporations do not give it away from free, so someone is stealing.

[sudden imp]

I asked the chat GPT itself also and It said it’s a public site that anyone can use and it’s legal

[hidden spade]

ChatGPT doesn't know shit.

[wanton raven]

🚩🚩🚩

[sudden imp]

Just saying how laws change over time

[hidden spade]

And that's the law you picked.

You could have said gay sex. But you picked something creepy.

[sudden imp]

I’ve been using this free everything AI for my company and it’s making everything better I’m adding an AI chat to my website soon

[hidden spade]

1. No one cares.
2. No one believes you.

[sudden imp]

People also use illegal websites for movies

[hidden spade]

So you admit it is illegal.

[wanton raven]

It seems that you're trying to argue it's okay to do this thing now on the basis that it might be legal in the future

[hidden spade]

I personally don't care if you are stealing from corporations. I'm just saying, constantly bragging about it in public is incredibly stupid.

[sudden imp]

It’s not I’m just saying if it were it would be on the level of that type of crime

[hidden spade]

It IS that type of crime.

[tardy bolt]

Well… that’s…

[sudden imp]

I’m just saying it’s a god damn pice of paper

[tardy bolt]

… odd…

[sudden imp]

Just an example😭

[tardy bolt]

QUESTIONABLE…

[oak shell]

[wanton raven]

Wait when did we start talking about paper?

[pliant blaze]

imagine admitting to being poor

[hidden spade]

It's the example that you picked, out of everything you could have picked.

[sudden imp]

Ok

[wanton raven]

Are you now trying to turn this into an argument against the concept of currency to justify you stealing services?

[sudden imp]

Documents and laws are all made up at the end of the day

I’m not impeding on the wellbeing of a human being I’m just using an AI

For free

[oak shell]

https://discord.com/channels/1050422060352024636/1383594500819128413

[wanton raven]

Now you're trying to justify stealing services by arguing against the concept of laws

[hidden spade]

And bragging about it, CONSTANTLY, in public, when no one here cares.

[sudden imp]

Look it’s not illegal any way so there is no need for this convo

[hidden spade]

Obviously it is theft.

[pliant blaze]

it is illegal

I already reported you to the federal beuoru

[ripe garnet]

Another day of me being poor. Anyone else ?

[calm quiver]

beurororou

[sudden imp]

It’s not what am I stealing her e

[sudden imp]

How

[hidden spade]

Knowingly using stolen goods or services is also illegal.

[sudden imp]

It’s not stolen

[hidden spade]

You are either lying, or incredibly gulible.

[calm quiver]

I mean i get the argument from Ryzen, He doesnt steal physical stuff. But he offers the usage of services for free, services other people worked hard for to create. (AI engineers, scientists, IT ppl, other staff)

[ripe garnet]

So what’s the problem what is dude not stealing or is stealing ? Can u explain.

[hidden spade]

I don't care if someone is stealing from corporations. I just want him to stop bragging about it here, CONSTANTLY, because no cares, and no one believes him. And if it is real, it is illegal, and he is admitting in public to being a criminal.

[sudden imp]

I can use all this for free

[gloomy burrow]

GPT 5 is getting ready btw

It’s coming

[calm quiver]

yeah what is that all about? sam altman said he wants everyone to be able to use it freely?

like wtf? how do they want to scale that so they can hold up that promise?

[gloomy burrow]

Yeah they said that upon release it will be free at the normal intelligence level.

[pliant blaze]

theft

[calm quiver]

do you know if it'll even surpass opus in coding skills?

[hidden spade]

Pretty sure that just means it'll be available as a model in ChatGPT. Not FREE free.

[sudden imp]

Im not stealing anything here its free

[sudden imp]

So over 3.5M people are doing theft

[sudden imp]

How much are you paying

[hidden spade]

No one cares.

[ripe garnet]

It is illegal if u profit off them. But tbh who cares if you get caught or something then that’s the risk you take.

[sudden imp]

You idiot

Im not asking anyone to pay me 100 a month

I dont care about getting paid

[ripe garnet]

Well you idiot then it’s not illegal.

[sudden imp]

Im not doing anything illegal here

[oak shell]

Jamie, pull up that image about what wasn't illegal 200 years ago

[ripe garnet]

I didn’t say you were… do you read before you type? I said if your profit from them…

I’m trying to help your case you just make it worse for yourself 😆

[calm quiver]

but how does he access multiple paid AI APIs? doesnt he have to pay for them? like why is it free? whats his benefit?

[hidden spade]

Using stolen services is also illegal.

[sudden imp]

But im using all this free AI to help my company out and I'm going to use this to take over and have alot of control and power Im adding an AI interface to my website soon that can be used to generate stuff and im going to use this and not pay for an API

[hidden spade]

It is probably someone who hacked/stole API keys from corporations/leaked code.

[calm quiver]

good point

[ripe garnet]

I think he means all the free access he gets from all the AI’s his putting them in 1 to help him

[hidden spade]

And they are 100% storing everything everyone sends through their site, for who knows what purposes.

[ripe garnet]

So technically it’s not illegal

[sudden imp]

Thanks dor this Idea ill make people pay 30 a month for my AI when its really free and I wont be paying for an API

[sudden imp]

It does not have memory you have to remind it stuff

after a while

[hidden spade]

I'm sorry, but you are dumb.
The wrapper site that you are using is storing everything. Not to help you have a conversation, but likely to steal from you later.

[sudden imp]

I dont think its a wrapper site

[hidden spade]

Phishing passwords and secrets. And probably more API keys.

Maybe blackmail material.

[hidden spade]

So you think every competing AI corporation are collectively running a website to give access to all of them for free??

[ripe garnet]

Okay this should answer… basically dude is on the edge.

[sudden imp]

Its a battle test to see what AI is better

[pliant blaze]

are you stupid?

that's literally the definition of a wrapper site

[pliant blaze]

it's just lmarena lmao

[sudden imp]

So why do you pay 20 a month

[pliant blaze]

because I'm not broke like you and leeching off of people

[sudden imp]

Im not broke

Money is a construct anyway

everything is free

You just need to know how to manipulate that construct

[sudden imp]

But I will wrap that wrap site and put it on my site and charge 30 a month

[hidden spade]

Aka. Stealing.

[ripe garnet]

$20 worth it for me my Ai can do everything literally

[sudden imp]

Its beyond stealing

money is simply just an idea we have in our heads

we are all in agreeance on what its worth

[hidden spade]

It is a token of value for trade. If you are not trading, but taking, that is called stealing.

[sudden imp]

So when I take a free samle is it stealing

[ripe garnet]

Well to an extend it’s true, but money is needed now to pay for jobs. lol… now in the future it’s different if Ai is able to do jobs no one wants and allow people to work less. Then people would be paid with luxury & recognition by performance/skill

[sudden imp]

People are slaves for money im beyond the money itself

[hidden spade]

If the person offering the free sample stole it, and you know they stole it, yes.

Accepting stolen goods is also illegal.

[ripe garnet]

Being rich in soul > being rich in money

[sudden imp]

Money will give power and control to my company

[ripe garnet]

You can think that, but seems like you don’t understand how to manage money if you think it’s that easy. That’s how you will be manipulated out your company.

[sudden imp]

I dont think so

[pliant blaze]

"my company"
looks inside
ai slop website

[sudden imp]

It will get better But its not slop

[rain adder]

Hello

[pliant blaze]

yes it is

[sudden imp]

How

[peak tide]

Hello everybody. I'm new so I don't wanna derail any ongoing convo. I've got a question about projects if anybody has that feature pinned down. Is there any way to organize chats into projects automatically? Ty!

[pliant blaze]

it's literally slop

[hidden spade]

Not in ChatGPT no. Nothing automatic around thier projects.

[sudden imp]

I dont think so

[raven lily]

yeah but rate limits, costs ballooning over the years? Isn't the case OpenAI probably won't get to profitability until maybe 2029? Won't costs have to go up ... 10X... 40X? XXX?

[gloomy burrow]

Then ummmm

[sudden imp]

My repository

[gloomy burrow]

They said it’s coming to free users at a standard level of intelligence, and plus and pro have a higher tier.

[pliant blaze]

slop

[rain adder]

How would that be slop

im new to all this what would be considered slop

[peak tide]

Thank you, I figured as much -.-'

[hidden spade]

Slop is a word the hive-mind likes to say constantly. And that's the first time I've ever typed that word. Dammit.

[peak tide]

I am the terror that slops in the night.

[pliant blaze]

anything made by ai that does not provide any value to the world

[wet copper]

No, that's fine. Use the spoiler tag out of politeness, we have a couple people with hemophobia

[sudden imp]

Its not made with AI

[wet copper]

I dunno if they'll ever be profitable, they could also be profitable now if that was their focus. They aren't organized like a normal profit generating company

[rain adder]

Whats hemophobia

[pliant blaze]

liar

[pliant blaze]

🤔 interesting

[rain adder]

is it the eversion to blood?

[wet copper]

Fear of blood, some people get sick or faint when they see blood

[pliant blaze]

I love blood as a grounding technique

[peak tide]

WHAT

[wet copper]

Yeah, some people find out when they're paramedics or med students remarkably enough. It's notorious to have people pass out watching spinal taps as well

[sudden imp]

What is it called when you have the opposite feeling a sense of positive energy flowing thought their body when they see it

[pliant blaze]

e.g. ||cutting one self||

[sudden imp]

I mean what a dry life without it

[peak tide]

OH

that sounds dangerous

[calm quiver]

alr heres the AI generated hand eating stagbeetle bugs (warning a bit of blood) lmao

[wet copper]

There are a few terms, hemophilia already refers to a medical condition so people use ad hoc terms

[pliant blaze]

yes but it is a grounding technique

[wet copper]

Lol, gross. Insect haters would probably be more squicked out

My pic was just my leg, fyi, I fell off a train platform in Brno

[wet copper]

Hematolagnia I think, mostly for fetishists tho

[calm quiver]

I was a paramedic for 9 months. Blood wasnt the issue. My weakness was, i'm not good at quick decision making/handling stressfull situations. I tend to forget/make mistakes. I'm more of a thinker and long term planner. Also i developed minor PTSD symptoms, like everytime i heard an emergency car pass by i feld extremely uneasy. luckily it went away after a few years.

[wet copper]

Good call to get out when you did, would have caused much more severe burnout-type symptoms over time I bet

I just have an EMT-B but a fairly heavy medical background, never formally practiced though

[calm quiver]

yeah i doubt it'd have been a long term job for me. It'd have eventually broken me.

[wet copper]

Yeah, I took it pretty seriously and my time shadowing was hard enough. I have trouble turning down the "caring" and PTs that don't listen or other factors outside my control would probably have fucked me up. Not sure.

[wet copper]

Nope, probably not the best idea either, honestly. Seems theoretically scriptable but it's hard to know exactly what someone wants. I think there are a few attempts to make chats more manageable at least, check out some random GPT extensions

Using projects rather than those folders is better. GPT really doesn't want you to sit on old chats though, as their models keep developing over time, it's kind of risky to keep going back to the well with older ones

[gloomy burrow]

BIG. BEAUTIFUL. DATA CENTERS ARE COMING FASTER THAN EVER BEFORE BABYYY

[wanton raven]

raze the forests, replace with data centers

[gloomy burrow]

absofuckinglutely

[raven lily]

they were once non-profit but have since changed their stance. I do worry there's a bit of a bubble forming around AI where, although it isn't failing to entertain, it is costly beyond belief. That bubble could be misleading us it's cheap and accessible when actually these companies are holding their breath until enough marketshare is in their favor to raise raise raise

[wet copper]

Kinda, it happens in every industry though, that's the internet cycle

Get people hooked then enshittify

[raven lily]

enshittification is pretty much already here - for me it's the way people are smugly touting they're done hiring software devs. AI can do it all, who needs em. I'm so sick of toxic meetings where senior leadership is chuckling at how they've finally closed the gap.

[sudden imp]

wrap

[wet copper]

I guess, some people. The big orgs are still burning money. They won't go up in pride though; they'll eventually all get mad cheaper given these are so catastrophically inefficient relative to what they could be that low cost models will be the norm for cheap use, ad supported slopware for people not willing to pay a lot, prices will hurt commercial interests

The generosity for high quality shit will go the way of the dodo or even more likely, the costs will be buried

So AppleCare will include access to high quality Siri AI, while you use a shit model without it, maybe

Stuff like that, they'll find where people are already paying and tack it on since they're used to having quality for free

I dunno about corporate use and replacing devs though, like the era of the dev is... Over? Kind of? We can't operate the same way

These H1B copy-paste kings are absolutely fucked. They were basically robots already. Same with bootcampies unless they happen to be actually talented

And same with people that hung on with a C average and even some of the autists that literally can't do anything else but code. If you can't architect, communicate, etc., like match solutions to problems, you should get out N O W

[warped pond]

where can I ask to make a shared gpt account so I dont pay 20 bucks per month

[pliant blaze]

use like t3 chat or something I think it's $8 a month

[delicate drift]

Hello, I just made Chrome extension for ChatGP, it is totally free. can I promote here?
Handle favorite and making tags of conversation feature it has.

[rain adder]

Any AI that I can use to build a bomb or anything

its for a class

Bomb class

We are planing to have our finals soon

[jaunty terrace]

Okay so I have to know…does OpenAI keep track of everything even if we delete the messages, chats and memories? Because my ChatGPT seems to remember things even after I deleted stuff.

[wanton raven]

No, #✨projects

[delicate drift]

Thank you.

[balmy storm]

Hey guys, is ChatGPT Plus better than the free version for generating images and prompts? Is it more precise or it’s the same as the free version?

[junior fossil]

Hey guys, does anyone have a fix for the ''User Quota exceeded'' error when trying to upload files? It's really destroying my workflow.

[hidden mountain]

lower your whedbfgbbbbbbbbbbbbbgbbg

c

[raven lily]

A lot of truth to this. I had an interview a couple weeks ago where the "head of engineering" was an H1B. He asked how does authentication (in general) work and the answer he was expecting was "json web token", as if that was the only method.

So no matter what, aside from compiler and embedded development, software is definitely not the sterling career it once was. What are people thinking for the next generation of secure jobs? Nuclear power to pay for all this machine learning? Dyson sphere engineering?

[oak shell]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-shield-get-this-man-a-true-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-gif-25958604

[oak shell]

Pay for Plus

[sharp violet]

6*9 = 61

[prime fjord]

how come llama is so much worse than grok?

you would think facebook + zuckerburg would be so much more competent than a drugged up nazi with less hiring power

[hidden mountain]

who is a drugged up nazi

youve been spending too much time on reddit.com

[smoky crystal]

he's probably referring to Elon

[hidden mountain]

fancy seeing you here

[smoky crystal]

Elon is one ketamine-infused mf

[hidden mountain]

perhaps but he ain't a nazi

[round sentinel]

Plastic paddy lol

[distant wigeon]

Hi, does chatgpt support voice input? I need it to judge the way I speak and my pace etc for a job interview but it only takes my voice and transcribes it to text

[hidden mountain]

you gotta talk like you have everything ur gonna say memorized so it's prob not good for that

like if you pause for a half second it cuts you off

[pliant blaze]

just use advanced voice mode

[hidden spade]

He is literally a nazi.

[hidden mountain]

who says

[hidden spade]

Seig-heiling, anti Semetic.

Nazi

[hidden mountain]

o an autustic guy on camera all the time made one weird gesture one time that kinda resembles that thing = nazi

[hidden spade]

His damn AI went MechaHitler after he messed with it.

It wasn't weird, and it wasn't once.

And that's very ablist of you blaming his disability.

[hidden mountain]

not really

the mechahitler stuff was just responding to trolls trying to push it's limits.