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[rancid inlet]

the fucking cosmos huh

and whats that in your opinion?

[gilded crypt]

its not about opinion, its aboit objective subjective observation

[rancid inlet]

look

his inputs are real science

string theory is real math / quantum computing is real / multiverse ideas could be real too

but the problem is that he often slides from this is possible/speculation to this is where science is headed with certainty

[abstract dagger]

@rancid inlet shut the fuck up

[rancid inlet]

MICHIO KAKU IS A FUCKING HYPER APMLIFIER

HE GETS PAID FOR THAT

OR AT LEAST KEEPING THESE IDEAS EXCITING

[gilded crypt]

futuristic thinker type dude

[rancid inlet]

HE IS A PAID KEYNOTE SPEAKER

[gilded crypt]

Lmao

[rancid inlet]

OK HOW IS HE MARKETED??????

[gilded crypt]

yeah he paid for sure

[rancid inlet]

YOU SAID IT

FUTURISTIC THINKER

[rancid inlet]

how many books he have btw?

hes got a good business model ngl

lol

[pine patrol]

Good to hear
I'm alright

[gilded crypt]

spokesperson for popular science

everyone eats it up because thats what they wanna believe

[rancid inlet]

bruh

most of his media appearances often tie directly into his books

[gilded crypt]

lmao

they eating it up

[rancid inlet]

ALL DAY

[rancid inlet]

areny you eating that too tho?

😭

[gilded crypt]

nah

[rancid inlet]

hmm

okay

[gilded crypt]

he never gave me the answers i was looking for

[rancid inlet]

which is?

[gilded crypt]

About the cosmos and consciousness

[rancid inlet]

trentk will give u that answer

[gusty ravine]

alternate realities

r a thing

compacted

into garbage

⌛

[rancid inlet]

lol

[gilded crypt]

the problem is thet most people havent opened thier 3rd Eye and people think its fake

thats why humanity is in a shit hole

People get too religious or people get too science fixated so you have these people looking in all the wrong ways about the universe and most are too egotistical to see what needs to been looked at

[late ingot]

I feel bad for his family

I think it must be easy to miss how warped someone's worldview is getting

Lots of people mouth off about how much they hate crime/antisocial behaviour, not sure how obvious it is that they're considering using violence themselves

[pine patrol]

What the fuck is that username 😭

[abstract dagger]

me?

[pine patrol]

Take a wild guess

[abstract dagger]

@sour basin is my soulmate

[pine patrol]

Is he a new guy?

[crimson pagoda]

mcdonalds gotta be in the top 3 killers of black trans women

[abstract dagger]

why the fuck is mcdonalds the one posting this

[cunning nymph]

zero00000000

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[crimson pagoda]

https://klipy.com/gifs/israeli-flag-israel--k01KRKAP4W033C4ADBP93SCX76X

[opal sentinel]

I woke up from a three hour nap after school and I had some of the worst and best moments of my life on the dream and I feel utterly exhausted waking up

[plucky gyro]

i wake up

trump and musk visit china

[opal sentinel]

In my dream apparently some people could fly and I was one of the best

I felt so disappointed when I woke up

[opal sentinel]

@crimson pagoda GTA 6 preorders were leaked

18 may 2026

[late ingot]

a lot of people are gaining their political awareness through HOI4 mods these days and its insane

[crimson pagoda]

i would say it's a good thing but it's probably just gonna churn out a ton more teenagers with retarded antisocial political ideologies they use to larp

[fervent basin]

modern art

whole canvas black

[late ingot]

Yeah the issue is that it boosts antisocial and unpopular ideologies and also that its often alt-history content so they're basically learning fictional history and fictionalised portrayals of real figures

[crimson pagoda]

what you're seeing is just money laundering

pick some weirdo spastic loser. have him make a shitty painting. have your friend appraise the painting as being worth $1 million. donate the shitty painting to a museum for a massive tax write-off

[late ingot]

My guess is that comes from a modern day mod, but a lot of antisocial weirdos got their politics from WW1 or WW2 "what if the other guys won" mods

[crimson pagoda]

this is actual an imperial german helmet you uneducated moron. im not a nazi

[fervent basin]

this is the type of art i want to see

[crimson pagoda]

@fervent basin

[undone lake]

https://www.youtube.com/live/luU57hMhkak?si=-N3EdrPZCPSzJo-8

stupid clanker is sitll going

[rancid inlet]

skip skip skip skip skip

[undone lake]

what jobs will we do when AI can do them all both in the physical and digital?

[opal sentinel]

Elias

gta 6 preorders got leaked

[broken idol]

could you check your DM please ^^ @crimson pagoda

[gusty ravine]

i guess we'd wait for AI intervention

AI 2.0

[undone lake]

how bad is it

[gusty ravine]

Then have them submit for crypto before ppl turn against it

https://www.reddit.com/r/AIToolsAndTips/comments/1t7n9ar/canva_ai_20_might_quietly_become_one_of_the_most

[late ingot]

Robots doing manual labour at lower cost than a wagie is still a long way off

You gotta remember there will be small parts of the job description the robot can't do, requiring a reduced number of wagies, plus the upfront cost of each robot will be high, they will need to be maintained and kept in suitable conditions, and customers may react negatively to robots and go elsewhere

[crimson pagoda]

main application point to me does not seem to be customer-facing roles

you put a humanoid robot in front of me at a fast food place and the very first thing I'm doing is trying to make it fuck up for my amusement lol

factory roles for them would be more economically devastating, and probably a place where they'd be more economically viable to be deployed, as even temp workers at a factory are making more than burger flippers

[tropic hemlock]

Heyooo

[opal sentinel]

@tropic hemlock

I like asian american

[late ingot]

If they significantly increase the error rate its a problem though

And I don't really see how an bipedal robot would be superior to a non-humanoid one in most factory settings

Like surely it would be cheaper and more effective to have it on tracks with its centre of mass lower down and have various tools and attachment points for it to perform a really specific job in a production line, but be able to change role at some refitting station really quickly

So when part of the line is dormant they just roll over to have various attachments removed and new ones added, then roll over to slower parts of the line

[crimson pagoda]

rn the main advantage seems to be teleoperation and arbitrage of wages in different countries

if you can pay a guy in India $3/day or whatever to operate the robot and it comes even close to the quality of a person actually in your country, that's a pretty good deal, and also generates the training data that will eventually allow the indian to be cut out of the loop

[late ingot]

What sort of factory line benefits from a biped over different robot configurations though?

[crimson pagoda]

it's not that any one particular factory line benefits from it, but that you can apply it to any factory and it can perform basically as well as a human. with teleoperation the difference in quality is negligible, but you're right that full automation is still a ways off

[late ingot]

Because I feel like someone with a lot of starting capital could design a factory from the ground up on the basis that humans would almost never enter the factory floor, and that everything on it would be some kind of modular, non-humanoid robot

And also how much does the robot cost and how long does it take to see a return on investment?

[stray tiger]

Lol she didn't leave or anything. Maybe don't just open with that one

[crimson pagoda]

that's kinda what some of amazon's newer warehouses are built around but that's just targeting a different market overall. this is a drop-in replacement for a person which, if not now then soon, will be significantly cheaper than paying even a temp factory worker

[crimson pagoda]

im not 100% certain about this but im p sure Figure One is going for some kind of leasing + teleoperation contract model

[late ingot]

Because if there's not a large upfront cost people might try it

I assume you'd put down some kind of deposit in case you deploy it somewhere reckless and it gets broken on the first day

[crimson pagoda]

i wonder how much insurance will factor into this now that i think about it

[late ingot]

Like you deploy it next to some steel forge and it overheats, shuts down and gets crushed by something

[crimson pagoda]

the likelihood of the robot being damaged is probably a lot higher than a human being injured, but a human being significantly injured is also gonna be a hell of a lot more expensive

[late ingot]

What about a human being injured due to the actions of a robot?

[pine patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/windows-windows7-microsoft-windows-startup-windows7startup-gif-20042708

[late ingot]

Like the robot does not check humans are outside of a service area before pouring molten steel into it

[crimson pagoda]

at least w/ teleoperation it doesn't seem super likely. i guess unless the teleoperating indian bugs out and starts karate kicking employees or something lol

[late ingot]

What if the Indian contests the claim that it was his negligence rather than a software/hardware issue that caused an accident?

[crimson pagoda]

i suppose its probably going to be similar to the self-driving car stuff, where a couple landmark cases are going to decide how these sorts of events are treated

[late ingot]

I mean ultimately the robot company will have to pay either way, they can't do anything beyond docking the worker's last paycheck and firing him

[gritty perch]

What if an Indian robot teleoperator goes rogue we need a bollywood on this asap

[late ingot]

I think bipedal robots and self-driving cars are similar in that they're a sort of transitional equilibrium, and will both become obsolete in the future if better forms of transport automation are developed

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

Average day in the life of ChatGPT user

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1tcxbgb/average_day_in_the_life_of_chatgpt_user/

https://v.redd.it/eusepbrco31h1
Posted by /u/Nitro-Fusion25
Don't want to see more? Mods can unlink this subreddit with /reddit unlink

[late ingot]

Like if all cars are self-driving in the future then it makes sense to switch to a centralised traffic management system that handles all pathing in built up areas, and potentially very few actual private vehicles when you can just summon one on a whim

If outright prohibited to manually drive a vehicle in controlled zones then the design of such things would rapidly move away from looking like cars and more like pods

[pine patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-your-birthday-tik-tok-gif-17055475009777079467

[inland hill]

Real monet

[opal sentinel]

First fight tomorrow any tips? I'm 5ft and 85lbs he's 6ft 3 and 230lbs

[late ingot]

I don't think this will happen though as it requires policy changes and for people to move away from ideas about privately owned vehicles and what a self-driving "car" even is

[stray tiger]

A lot a lot. My dad used to work as a forensic chemical engineer dealing with industrial accidents, fires and explosions and it's always someone suing an insurance company

[inland hill]

My only problem is cyberhackers

What if a hacler makes the central system do nation wide kamikaze

[late ingot]

It'd also only be logical for shorter trips as after that it makes more sense to just be routed to some kind of futuristic train thing where you still have a private space but are in a larger vehicle with people travelling much faster along a defined route

[inland hill]

We need offline control totally too

At least a local ai model and a human manual brake

[late ingot]

An emergency stop button maybe, but you'd have to consider what happens if some idiot pushes it for no reason as a "prank"

The whole lane would immediately shut down

[inland hill]

It still van be avoided by other cars ig

[late ingot]

No it couldn't

[inland hill]

They can se slowing

[late ingot]

If its an automated routing system then one car abruptly stopping neccessarily inconviences other vehicles

[inland hill]

In like 3 miliseconds

[late ingot]

Yes and if the routing was efficient they too would have to stop

[proper dove]

schizophrenia hopes i prove stuff isnt training if all the stuff it stimulates isnt set... uhhh it assumes everything is uhh categorized the same consciously by everyone or they pretend they decide it 🤔 i do have to wonder about a revision/audience thing it blocks so doesnt get used but communication i necessary

[late ingot]

As there's no reason for there to be overtaking lanes or frequent lane changes in general

You would only change lanes at junctions

[inland hill]

Well yeah

But it is better than no stop

[stray tiger]

I mean, you can stop your car now for an issue or as a prank yourself

[inland hill]

Cyberhacking would be insane then

[late ingot]

I think you'd have to fine riders for pressing the emergency stop button without good reason, and make it a crime to intentionally disrupt automated traffic

[stray tiger]

It's illegal to just block shit

[inland hill]

Drive all humans off the roads at once nationwide

[stray tiger]

It already is lmao

[inland hill]

Yea

[late ingot]

You can but we're more resilient against that

[inland hill]

Like you can literally do this today

And many do

For fun

[late ingot]

To get the benefits of an automated routing system you'd have the most efficient traffic flow, which means cars in convoy

[inland hill]

Yes but that still needs a manual stop

[late ingot]

It wouldn't be possible to just change lane to go around

[late ingot]

????

[slim coral]

https://fxtwitter.com/lupin_anime/status/2054396753898831905/en

アニメ「ルパン三世」公式 (@lupin_anime)

📑 Translated from Japanese

From the anime "Lupin the Third Part 2" (1977), composer and jazz pianist Yuji Ohno, who handled many songs including "Lupin the Third's Theme," passed away on May 4. Along with gratitude for his many years of activity, we offer our condolences. Thank you very much.

Original text
アニメ「ルパン三世 PART2」（1977年）より、『ルパン三世のテーマ』をはじめとする楽曲を多く手がけられた作曲家・ジャズピアニストの大野雄二さんが5月4日にご逝去されました。
︀︀長年のご活躍への感謝と共に、お悔やみを申し上げます。
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[late ingot]

Irrelevant

[inland hill]

If someine besses around u punish them hard

[inland hill]

If u leave no mechanical stop

The entire nation in cars could die

[late ingot]

It's fundamentally different because its a totally different user experience with different incentives

[inland hill]

From a rando hacker

The stop needs to be mechanical

[late ingot]

A fully automated road would have radically different traffic flow to a road that its partly or wholly human drivenn

[tropic hemlock]

I like everyone regardless

[late ingot]

I know, which is why you include one but fine riders for pressing it without a reason

[stray tiger]

I legit don't see how anything changes though, slightly more involved "don't fuck around" punishments are fine. Anti AI protesters literally ARE stopping traffic right now

It's a pain in the ass

[inland hill]

Yes

That is what i am sayin

[late ingot]

Because if all cars are automated then people develop a very different attitude to being in a car

[inland hill]

Make funes heavy

Fines

Like fake fire alarms

[late ingot]

And it would make sense to define fully automated roadways differently in law

Since in any case you would need there to be laws against driving onto one in a human driven vehicle

Most likely rising bollars or descending barriers to block vehicles that try

[inland hill]

What if we hardcoded limits into the cars' circuitry tho

Like it cannot go dowm the hill by hardware design

Read only memory chips

[late ingot]

Doesn't work for classic or "classic" (by future standards) cars

[stray tiger]

Yeah dude it goes the opposite way. It's a more passive experience and people pull less often

[late ingot]

Unless you require all classic vehicles to be extensively retrofitted which is an onerous requirement

[inland hill]

My problem is how do u defemd against hackers

[inland hill]

Nah

I only meant the sota future

When it gets mandatory

[stray tiger]

People don't randomly push the "stop here" thing on busses or elevators

[inland hill]

Yeah

[late ingot]

Yeah but there will be "classic" car enthusiasts who want to drive their vehicle built in 2026 on the roads for personal enjoyment

[inland hill]

In fact many are afraid of it

Me included

[vernal mantle]

butwhy

[inland hill]

Okay but that is like horse carriage riders today

[stray tiger]

Lol fine, go for it

[inland hill]

They need a bunch of permits

[undone lake]

so they will start with humans and when the business is succesful enough they get replaced with robots

[late ingot]

For sure, but the downstream disruption for it in an automated roadway would be more extreme, especially if the road is at capacity

[inland hill]

In the future the most valuable human asset will be redponsibility and trust

[late ingot]

And presumably they would need to assume the press was legitimate as they can't rely on automated systems if the whole point of the button is to say "there is a malfunction, stop"

[stray tiger]

I don't think it'll bother her, I wouldn't have invited her otherwise. She's not gonna have a great basis to answer the question though

[late ingot]

...it's not

[inland hill]

We need to desifn it so that accidents do not cause much hassle

Build 2x more lanes

[opal sentinel]

https://x.com/i/status/2054757311663812710

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[inland hill]

If we have ai car tech

Lanes are cheap

Autobuilded

[late ingot]

Nobody would bring their horse and carriage onto a high speed motorway out of stubborness or by mistake

[stray tiger]

Oh boy that's optimistic

[inland hill]

Same will happen to the 2026 cars

[late ingot]

They are going slow enough that if they took their horses down the wrong road they could stop

[gusty ravine]

traffic complexity is almost moore

[late ingot]

It wont

[inland hill]

Why

[late ingot]

Wrong way drivers on the motorway are common

[inland hill]

Autopolice

[late ingot]

People do dumb shit

[inland hill]

Drone looks at you

[gusty ravine]

trying anything is futile

[inland hill]

And you are arrested

[stray tiger]

3d printed and maintained car lanes are waaaay further out

[late ingot]

Or just a barrier that quickly descends/rises if the approaching car isn't automated

[inland hill]

If u are crazy the drones kamikaze your wheels

[stray tiger]

It's going to be about adapting existing infrastructure first and foremost

[inland hill]

Yeah

[late ingot]

or even just a rising spike trap

[inland hill]

Ye this will be like the smallest problem

[late ingot]

You have to stop the car ASAP before it crashes into automated traffic

[fervent basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-spin-hat-one-brain-cell-gif-2745719316163357325

[inland hill]

I do not me 3d printed

[stray tiger]

They have metal nets that are pretty good at catching cars

[inland hill]

Cybersecurity is the #1 issue

[stray tiger]

I mean that's one of the ways you'd automate building, they already 3d printed a house

[inland hill]

Niche for now

[late ingot]

But if those fully automated roads have connections to mixed-use and eventually to primarily human roadways, there's a potential path for a confused old classic car enthusiast to end up on a slip road to one

[stray tiger]

No way, I think it's borderline doable now

[inland hill]

Also there is always the nuclear option

Simply confiscate all old cars

Free auto car

[late ingot]

Prefab modules seem like the obvious way, then a robot can easily comprehend how to assemble things for niche use cases

[stray tiger]

Your 20th century Hungarian is showing

[inland hill]

In return

[inland hill]

Nkt w/o compensation duh

[stray tiger]

Yea

[stray tiger]

Uhhhhh huh

[inland hill]

U get a new auto car

[stray tiger]

Whatever you say ministalin

[inland hill]

Well do we not take away radium from people now

U were allowed to hoard it

[stray tiger]

I don't

[inland hill]

[stray tiger]

😋

[inland hill]

Or cannons in europe

This car attachment is like how slaveowners thought

[stray tiger]

I mean you're describing some of the tragedies of our times

[inland hill]

You cannot take away my slaves

Yes u can

U cause societal harm

[stray tiger]

@vernal mantle reference

[inland hill]

We can create old car zones

Sure

Ppl can play there

But also have to leave their car there

I hate cars btw

[stray tiger]

I think ray2v hates my freedom

[inland hill]

If that was a secret

[inland hill]

Just cars

[stray tiger]

I don't love driving either

[inland hill]

Bane if humanity

Microplastics

70% in the air

From cars and trucks

Of*

Big cargo ships are clean princesses compared

[stray tiger]

It's not pleasant, I like the freedom but it was nicer living in Vienna where I almost never needed one

[inland hill]

I get the idea

Of psychologically wsnting control

And for now it is ok

But when we have the cool autocars with better wheels

And a lot more traintracks

[stray tiger]

I would have liked a fluent system to be able to do things that are easier with a car though, it's a gap that society partially engineered around, partially didn't

[inland hill]

The state will nuke

[stray tiger]

Some occasional things were legitimately much harder without a car, having grown up always having one you notice the gaps in a way an urban European wouldn't

[inland hill]

Be glad i will not be a leader in the future

My world would be super strict

Free in ideas

Strict in forbidden actually harmful stuff

[late ingot]

👏 All 👏 AI 👏 is 👏 slavery 👏

[abstract dagger]

vienna was lovely to go to ngl

[inland hill]

All powered by palantir(tm)

[stray tiger]

Free in ideas, you just aren't allowed to vote on or enact any of them

Got it

[abstract dagger]

also goo dmorning

did my soulmate mention me at all

[inland hill]

Nah

[abstract dagger]

after i went to sleep

[inland hill]

You can enact a lot of policies

[stray tiger]

It's rated routinely one of the best places in the world for expats to live

[inland hill]

But no goofin around

[late ingot]

Who is your current soulmate?

[inland hill]

Good social net

[stray tiger]

Okay, I want my car back and my drugs

[inland hill]

Keynesian capitalism

[abstract dagger]

marquis irl friend goldy

[inland hill]

No u

Drug use is fine if it does not harm others

But it needs to be surveiled

[stray tiger]

Okay. It does, often. And you can't watch me

[inland hill]

That is where u are wrong

Well not me

But someone will

[stray tiger]

I mean not badly, but my shit posting might cause moral harm

[inland hill]

That much is allowed

[stray tiger]

Lol she went to sleep, I haven't talked to her

[inland hill]

As long as u di not send fishy telegram links

Or crypto

Yes crypto would sadly be banned

Well no

Anonym would be

Transparent is fine

[stray tiger]

@vernal mantle reference again damn

[gusty ravine]

crypto linx?

[inland hill]

Also by providing a good social net

Theft can be reduced

[stray tiger]

Wow where will you find all the money for this

[inland hill]

This is future wprld marquis

[gusty ravine]

why wouldnt u trust a good decentralized network in the first

[inland hill]

Not post scarcity but abive norway

[stray tiger]

Especially when all the billionaires fuck off to sex and drug and car island

[inland hill]

Now u see that will be changed too

[late ingot]

AGI > post-scarcity > UBI > utopia

[stray tiger]

Aka australia

[inland hill]

You will be able to have billions

But the law will be thw same

[stray tiger]

This is how Australia will turn into Mad Max

[inland hill]

Hence the need for transparency

Every moniez u have will be digital or digitally marked papr(against hackers) and be tracked

[late ingot]

It would be based if the tech billionaires realised their dream of techno-fascism and transferred all control of government to an AI superintelligence, and the first thing it did was confiscate all their assets and kill them

[inland hill]

Would not kill them prolly

Put them on an island to play minecraft

[stray tiger]

prolly

[inland hill]

I use thaat

[stray tiger]

So the Australia project

[inland hill]

Many do

I love personalized ads

[stray tiger]

Australia is like an ASI housing project for billionaires

[stray tiger]

damn how much do u shit

[late ingot]

The most recent Pokemon main series games did an interesting subversion of expectations where someone created an AI assistant based on themselves and the AI was actually more benevolent and less reckless than them, working to destroy their work after the original died in an accident

And up until you get told that you're given the impression its going to be a malevolent AI

[inland hill]

I do nor use much paper

Am blessed with good poo

[stray tiger]

anyone have something fun they want written in blood or otherwise articulated in some special way, I've been feeling more artistically motivated

*autistically

[elfin scarab]

Write this: "This kills the Mochi"

[stray tiger]

I swear you have a keyword alarm set

[elfin scarab]

i get punged when someone mentions blood

[stray tiger]

If so... hot

[inland hill]

Would that be legal

Names i mean

Not words

[elfin scarab]

emergency

[stray tiger]

Huh? You can set it up in equicord

[elfin scarab]

geepot is letting me create concentration camps

[sterile zealot]

huh, how would it be illegal

[inland hill]

I mean in eu law

[stray tiger]

hot asf. I'm setting up one too

[inland hill]

If you set up an alarm for someone appearing here

[sterile zealot]

add an ak47 to it so that the himekos know who rules here

[inland hill]

That would not be legal

[sterile zealot]

of course it is legal

[inland hill]

But if it is for the word blood

It is fine

[stray tiger]

Wow I don't value EU law

[sterile zealot]

hes just completely wrong

[stray tiger]

look Himeko really needs to concentrate harder 😣

[sterile zealot]

it might be illegal for you to do that if you work at discord as an employee, not really in any other case

[gusty ravine]

check and balances

in order

[elfin scarab]

lmao there's smoke coming out of the buildings
This implies himeko crematoriums

[gusty ravine]

democracy

[inland hill]

Violatws gdpr

[stray tiger]

Holy based

[inland hill]

Botting tools are not qualified as household tools

But if you made a parrot learn to signal

That would be legal ig

[inland hill]

Therefore automatic detectiom would be illegal

For a natural person

[cunning nymph]

flowers4207

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[fervent basin]

need this ahh fit

[elfin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/reze-chainsaw-man-twitching-eye-reze-arc-reze-chainsaw-man-gif-12556777641026557631

[abstract dagger]

NOOOO

:(

[sterile zealot]

nice

[elfin scarab]

lmfao

why did you get banned

[abstract dagger]

cheating apparently

[sterile zealot]

"apparently"

[pseudo flax]

Ur too good

Take it as a compliment

[elfin scarab]

@late ingot

[elfin scarab]

Ogreporn ❤️

[late ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-ogerpon-sleepy-pokemon-gif-12075025073048030446

[pine patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/windows-windows7-microsoft-windows-startup-windows7startup-gif-20042708

[abstract dagger]

apparenrtly because i dont

[elfin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/sis-gif-1813288167162672911

wtf is this gif

[late ingot]

fujoshislop

[undone lake]

rekt

hope you get ur acc back

[pseudo flax]

Hiiii

I'm at work

^_^

[abstract dagger]

i wont but its okay

[undone lake]

good goy

[abstract dagger]

people kept reporting me

saying my aim looks not legit

https://open.spotify.com/track/4aiQbPF1noqApzF8yYwCYX?si=4a11a12cc0594dd4 @stray tiger

[elfin scarab]

what is that symbol in your name

[undone lake]

Shoshinsha Mark, is a green and yellow shield used to indicate a novice or beginner in any field. It is often used to represent learning, new endeavors, or to mark the start of a journey,

[abstract dagger]

@late ingot opinion on professional summaries in cvs?

i feel like its one of those things that get promoted because companies want to get your personal data and use it for training

but that people actually skip over it

[late ingot]

idk what that means

[abstract dagger]

like "about me" section etc

[late ingot]

I just looked at the CV I last used (which was a while ago as everything since has been form entry only) and it doesn't have one

Instead I wrote about the relevant skills I developed under each work history item

[slim coral]

you will have to take charge. help me save mekonia

we have many enemies

the third mekonia will be built

[slim coral]

no

no pictures of mekonia survive

I have an image of me standing where mekonia was

on the top the evil komorian empire

this was once mekonia

I was coerced by evil komorian agents

[tropic hemlock]

Found this today, cool side hustle if you are jobless

[slim coral]

then I got on a boat

to run away

and that's why mekonia is now on the sea

[gusty ravine]

content creators should plagiarize

where the hell did i hear this from

quora

[cursive kelp]

@crimson pagoda fact check

[elfin scarab]

this makes me smile ❤️

[slim coral]

why

[molten burrow]

who is 3rd

[cursive kelp]

🇨🇺⚠️ — The communist regime in Cuba has declared that the island is officially out of fuel, and expects the energy system to collapse in the coming days.

[solemn kiln]

UN person

[elfin scarab]

UN guy

he's Portuguese 💪

Portuguese people rule the world

[elfin scarab]

your suffering is my joy

[slim coral]

why

I'm normal

go torment someone else

like elias

elias likes being beaten

[elfin scarab]

that's why it wouldn't be fun

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

Average day in the life of ChatGPT user

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1tcxbgb/average_day_in_the_life_of_chatgpt_user/

https://v.redd.it/eusepbrco31h1
Posted by /u/Nitro-Fusion25
Don't want to see more? Mods can unlink this subreddit with /reddit unlink

[slim coral]

that's how sad I am

[elfin scarab]

you're lonely because you're a sex pest

[slim coral]

wha

[slim coral]

get me out of there

[solemn kiln]

(You like it)

[elfin scarab]

but you look happy

[slim coral]

I was drugged

[gusty ravine]

injail

[elfin scarab]

@slim coral flux spent all night last night making images of you and maria

he somehow managed to make your "OC" look good

[slim coral]

how

[crimson pagoda]

@elfin scarab @vernal mantle im scraping more fanfics

@spare knoll

[elfin scarab]

no more fetal alcohol syndrome baby face

[crimson pagoda]

im scraping adult-fanfiction.org and also fiction.live

[elfin scarab]

nice

did you scrape AO3

[crimson pagoda]

i have an ao3 metadata dataset up but no story texts because the ao3cels got super duper pissed about another guy scraping lol

they made a thread mad about even just the metadata lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/AO3/comments/1k8st8f/new_hugging_face_ao3_dataset_metadata_only/

[sterile zealot]

so? who gives a shit if they get mad about it

scrape it anyway to ragebait them

[crimson pagoda]

with ao3 the issue is already basically settled on HF so if i post w/ the copyrightable works it'll for sure get taken down, so there's no point

but anyway, with the two sites im scraping rn, I'm just putting the whole things up

will deal w/ copyright issues later, if they should appear

[sterile zealot]

torrent it

[crimson pagoda]

ask for forgiveness, not permission 😎

[stray tiger]

Lmaooooooo

[solemn kiln]

You’ll own nothing and be happy

[stray tiger]

if you really cared, you'd drone strike my house 😩

[elfin scarab]

why is it in Japenis

[slim coral]

wtf

you ripped the ahoges out

[solemn kiln]

Geepot

[slim coral]

[solemn kiln]

Rehabilitation

[slim coral]

those are soulless husks

they're not himekos anymore

[stray tiger]

*crematoria

[gusty ravine]

lcd to getting stuck in ai-world

[crimson pagoda]

himeko rehabilitation pod™ (it just fills with helium)

[sterile zealot]

i hope himekos become an extinct species

[sterile zealot]

does gpt image allow u to put guns

[stray tiger]

see but you're lying about work setting the Himekos free, right

[elfin scarab]

Geepot allows me to generate Auschwitz but not lewd anime girls

[solemn kiln]

Free from their lust

[sterile zealot]

yeah, theyre just going into the room that fills up with zyklon b

[elfin scarab]

@slim coral

it makes me happy thinking about it

[elfin scarab]

god it's beautiful

[slim coral]

we will survive

and you will pay reparations to us

[gusty ravine]

crypto

[slim coral]

your descendants will rue the day you decided to send us to the ovens

mekoism will rise

[crimson pagoda]

@wary ermine emergency

[wary ermine]

@crimson pagoda

I didn't send anyone to any ovens

[stray tiger]

I wonder why I adore such a dastardly dame so. Pure love knows neither reason nor sanity 🥺

[wary ermine]

I'm only like 5% German

[sterile zealot]

the police officers should have komoria written on them, not mekonia. that is really dumb

[slim coral]

comorano

[crimson pagoda]

its 1PM on a thursday. shouldnt you be in a class or at a job or something

[crimson pagoda]

lmao i cant believe its not refusing these

[wary ermine]

Okay, I'm not even 5% German, that's 5% Dutch and German

[slim coral]

we're not disposable

[stray tiger]

Holy fuck I can't breathe

[slim coral]

stop using us as soap

[stray tiger]

you're reusable

[elfin scarab]

@slim coral share these with your chud buds

[solemn kiln]

You are right because using you as soap will only make things dirtier

[sterile zealot]

do more of these that imply theyre made from himekos

[sterile zealot]

correct, you are recyclable

[elfin scarab]

Himeko lampshades

[crimson pagoda]

im doing looney tunes type shit right now

[slim coral]

would you hurt this innocent creature

[sterile zealot]

@crimson pagoda power generation facility that implies the power is extracted from himekos

[elfin scarab]

Komoria rules the world

[crimson pagoda]

it didn't understand what i meant

[stray tiger]

Himeko book covers?

[slim coral]

I made her with novelai

[sterile zealot]

what did you want it to do

[slim coral]

which perfectly can add one

[elfin scarab]

only OG colonialists know where the original comes from

[stray tiger]

are u stepping on me. This is how people develop macrophilia ya know

[sterile zealot]

wtf is macrophillia

[gusty ravine]

regularitory 101

[slim coral]

that's an inflatable balloon

it's an allegory that komoria is fragile

[crimson pagoda]

microphilia and macrophilia are fetishes involving the idea of becoming gigantic or very very tiny

[loud girder]

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[slim coral]

it only takes a safety pin to pop the balloon

[crimson pagoda]

lady i dated in college liked macrophilia

[sterile zealot]

that sounds dumb af

[slim coral]

and thus bring freedom to mekonians

[solemn kiln]

Curse you!

[sterile zealot]

how would you have sex if the two people are of competely different sizes

[crimson pagoda]

hold on, i have a screenshot thats really funny

[slim coral]

actually

[sterile zealot]

mekonians are all born as terrorists

[crimson pagoda]

some horny guy on meetme (the site where i met her) asked her a microphilia-themed question and she answered it by indulging the fetish

[slim coral]

wtf is holding her coat

we are oppressed

[elfin scarab]

(((Mekos)))

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot

[sterile zealot]

how do you even develop this fetish

[opal sentinel]

I'm scared of white people

[crimson pagoda]

being internet brained (no actually that is how)

[opal sentinel]

I have a panic attack when I'm near one

[crimson pagoda]

it's the sort of thing that forms totally unprompted in only a very rare few minds

then it spreads to participants who would've never known about it without the internet, via the internet

[stray tiger]

Uhhhh sorta, attack of the 50 foot woman awakened a lot of people

[gritty perch]

Jerome powell is a fucking goat

[stray tiger]

It's media and the internet that does it

People just don't think about it but they see it and it awakens something. I dunno if it's an inborn tendency or what

[elfin scarab]

mochi probably has that fetish

[gritty perch]

I want a 100 lb spinner bitch I can toss and turn around doin gymnastics type shit

[sterile zealot]

@vernal mantle

[gritty perch]

😂

[gusty ravine]

💪 + 💦

[opal sentinel]

Pakistani women are hot as shit

[sterile zealot]

zero way

[elfin scarab]

doubt

[pine patrol]

what level of boredom is this
are you at work

[gusty ravine]

247 ...

[gusty ravine]

mainly embed

[pine patrol]

what's that supposed to mean

[plucky escarp]

24/7

All day every day

[gusty ravine]

vm

[pine patrol]

Oh I see

[pine patrol]

seriously?

[sterile zealot]

@elfin scarab wow, being a programmer is the most effective form of birth control

[gusty ravine]

Yeap.

[elfin scarab]

lmfao

[opal sentinel]

@sterile zealot @elfin scarab have you ever taken a look at the Pakistani parliament or their tribal regions

[opal sentinel]

This are some mid Pakistani actresses

[sterile zealot]

these are pretty much all ugly

[loud girder]

Psychological report on @opal sentinel, requested by @abstract dagger

[abstract dagger]

indian minker

[opal sentinel]

You won't pull a single one of them

[sterile zealot]

with that being because im not from pakistan, correct

[opal sentinel]

Hard to confirm

[stray tiger]

This, except GPT said I was doing everything right

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot replying to this

https://x.com/pangramlabs/status/2054615002162848168
honestly like what even is there to improve on their classifier

Pangram Labs (@pangramlabs)

We're announcing Pangram 3.3, a new detection model based on our EditLens architecture.

We optimized Pangram 3.3 for a lower false negative rate on the newest generation of LLMs. It also has better performance on humanized text, long documents, and ESL writing benchmarks.

X · May 13, 2026, 5:29 PM

at some point like

it kinda just seems like enough lol

[sterile zealot]

well if you improve acc from 99.99% to 99.999% that is an error rate decrease of 10x

[crimson pagoda]

i guess if i were them the thing I'd probably be trying to do is

1. make the API cheaper for non-institutional access, cause right now it's absurdly expensive
2. make the API less susceptible to distillation or RL attacks (literally just return round(score, 4))

[sterile zealot]

brimstone

[late ingot]

I guess its always an arms race against humanisers trained against Pangram

[abstract dagger]

gemerald

[elfin scarab]

stop posting coal

[stray tiger]

normal coal. You're abusing the term

[sterile zealot]

i bet it is super cheap for them, they just have great margins

[crimson pagoda]

sure, but in practical terms this doesn't really matter does it? like for the average person they'll literally never draw the random 0.001% odds

[sterile zealot]

no it sucks ass

[crimson pagoda]

yes but questionable

[pine patrol]

agree

[crimson pagoda]

my best guess is

[sterile zealot]

james is the one abusing terms for calling it gemerald

[crimson pagoda]

based on the supported lang list

[abstract dagger]

you guys dont know a gemerald if it slapped you in the face

[crimson pagoda]

it's probably mistral 24b

w/ the generation head cut off and replaced w/ a classification head

[stray tiger]

also true. Both can be true

[elfin scarab]

this is a gemerald

❤️

[pine patrol]

it's literally just the meme

[crimson pagoda]

oh yeah this also

they dont do this

[late ingot]

Pangram might be able to make tweaks to grow a customer base among educational institutions, as currently its still complete chaos what AI detectors they try to use

[crimson pagoda]

they kinda cant tbh

[sterile zealot]

whos this tomboy

[crimson pagoda]

what makes them "lucky"

is just that the humanizers focus 99.999% of their efforts on advertisers

they are not operated by smart people

beating pangram is hard but it's not that hard

i did it as a hobby project and even with several major fuck ups the total cost was like $80

[elfin scarab]

Agnes Tachyon

[crimson pagoda]

@polar folio did it too, and it was (I think?) like one of his first LLM RL projects

[stray tiger]

average gem. synthetic diamond mebbe since it is just the meme

[crimson pagoda]

cucaracha actually did a better job than me even. he went hard as fuck

[sterile zealot]

well its better than what james posts

[late ingot]

I'd be looking at education/assessment use cases and possibly also for recruitment screening

[sterile zealot]

its iron

[crimson pagoda]

and my 8b still beats pangram, at least in the update prior to this latest one. havent tested the latest one

[late ingot]

I imagine people who send out AI CVs or use AI to cheat on their homework are dumb as shit too

[stray tiger]

I like the synthetic gem idea, cheap, reproducible, derived from common discourse in a straightforward way

[crimson pagoda]

yeah the humanizer industry, if one can even call it that, is just retards all the way down. top to bottom

[crimson pagoda]

spicy has just confirmed, the 8b does indeed still beat the latest pangram model

[pine patrol]

there are 1T params models?

[late ingot]

Just wondering if there is a use case where a client might need to screen AI generated content where the average person submitting it is more clever

[stray tiger]

It doesn't hurt me, that's my one problem with calling it coal, that it's too neutral

[granite cipher]

THEM THE BRIKS

[sterile zealot]

of course, largest llm whose parameter count we know of is like 3 trillion

[stray tiger]

Maybe, surprisingly few though

[sterile zealot]

i wouldnt be surprised if the labs are using 8t or so for their frontier models

[crimson pagoda]

i think the main variant they have to deal with is AI-assisted texts which pangram tries to detect

can't say for sure whether or not their accuracy on AI-assisted texts is as high as fully human vs fully AI discrimination

[stray tiger]

It's a lot easier to badly humanize AI text than it is to do it cleanly

I have a brutal time editing AI work, though it might not be as bad these days

[crimson pagoda]

if i was pangram I'd be a little nervous

this is an arms race that I think the anti-pangram people will eventually win

[stray tiger]

It's the kind of paper I'd be handed and just cross off full paragraphs and say "rewrite"

[stray tiger]

They'll win anyway once the models get good enough

[crimson pagoda]

all it'd really take is one or two competent people willing to do the social damage that is productizing an anti-pangram model

[stray tiger]

Limited time thing

[crimson pagoda]

once your model's weights are putting out text that's fully into the distribution of human-generated texts, that's kinda the end of the arms race\

[late ingot]

Texts where a few sentences are fully AI written but are surrouded by fully human written bits might be interesting

[stray tiger]

Yup, I dramatically undershot when it would happen but I can't see human writing surviving past 2030 as something distinct

[late ingot]

Like in a piece of technical writing where someone lacked confidence and had AI do all the citations plus certain very structured lists in the body of text

[crimson pagoda]

https://arxiv.org/html/2510.03154
their paper on this is really interesting

[late ingot]

Many such people

[crimson pagoda]

what they really need to do is start rounding off their scores from the API

their API leaks trainable info

[stray tiger]

I am surprised when my very stiff technical writing still gets 0% AI on pancakegram

[crimson pagoda]

if they just rounded their API's scores to like 3 decimal places the usability of the product would be basically unchanged and this would make it nearly impossible to train on their outputs as a reward signal

[late ingot]

I think for assessments it will just become the norm to complete all coursework supervised on a laptop with no network connectivity and all exams either on paper or on the same laptops

Will be miserable for people

[crimson pagoda]

yeah google docs having that detailed edit history thing

that's gonna be a big pro-human signal too

[late ingot]

Oh yeah and edit history

[stray tiger]

Yeah, prolly. I mean you need the internet for a lot of work

[late ingot]

If you're seen to have pasted large chunks of text in, instant fail

[crimson pagoda]

and i imagine if you had enough google docs data, like google does, you could surely detect when people are doing the "type the AI's response that I see on my phone directly into the google doc without copy+pasting" thing too

could automate that detection easily, i bet

[stray tiger]

That fucks with how some people write but you can set clear expectations

[stray tiger]

That seems like the harder case

[late ingot]

I think you set those expectations and constantly discourage people from writing like that

Maybe gradually ease into it with people being called in for academic defences if they're shown to have done that and told they need to stop, even if the teacher is satisfied they did write it themselves

[stray tiger]

I mean I move paragraphs around and paste quotes ofc, you'd have to be careful about how detection works

[late ingot]

Well I think if its paragraphs moving within the same document, or from another tracked document they could factor that in

And also have separate provisions for quotes

[abstract dagger]

If I was indian would you still be my friend

[stray tiger]

Lol yes, I have Indian friends

[elfin scarab]

If I was indian would you still be my friend

[stray tiger]

My study buddy in college was an Indian American

[abstract dagger]

If I was indian would you still be my friend

[stray tiger]

Yes, I would still be your friend 💖

[gusty ravine]

champagne

[elfin scarab]

it's difficult to answer

[abstract dagger]

Do you have a crush on me

[abstract dagger]

oh no

[abstract dagger]

If I was indian would you still be my friend

[elfin scarab]

If I was Black would you still be my friend

[stray tiger]

Nope

[stray tiger]

Yes, absolutely

[abstract dagger]

oh i thought you said you did

[stray tiger]

You are black I thought, you're Portuguese right?

[sterile zealot]

portuguese are white bruh

[abstract dagger]

Ive never met a colored portuguese person in my life

ngl

[stray tiger]

A crush on you? But you also think Komo and I live together hehehe

[abstract dagger]

out of everyone in the server im most curious what komoru and ols look like

[abstract dagger]

true

[late ingot]

tf??? Portuguese are black

[sterile zealot]

i think james is actually schizophrenic because where else is he hallucinating this from

[elfin scarab]

have you ever met a Portuguese person

[stray tiger]

yea do you have the map

[abstract dagger]

Quite a few they were all very white

[late ingot]

@elfin scarab is the designated map keeper

[late ingot]

I think he is genuinely losing it yes

[abstract dagger]

not enough

[sterile zealot]

he keeps posting so much brimstone for some reason

[abstract dagger]

they should have made this greyscale

for black percentage

[stray tiger]

I'm always surprised it's so low

[sterile zealot]

also why did you remove your pfp

[abstract dagger]

I DONT KNOW

thanks

[elfin scarab]

he's having a manic episode

[sterile zealot]

schizophrenic fuck

[abstract dagger]

a pfp makes you identifiable

[elfin scarab]

James are you bipolar

[late ingot]

I don't pay enough attention to him to really have an idea of what's wrong with him

[abstract dagger]

i dont know

[late ingot]

I'd accept "manic" as an explanation though

[sterile zealot]

he has paranoia episodes regularly

[abstract dagger]

probably not

[elfin scarab]

you remind me of a bipolar family member

[abstract dagger]

im just

smart

and james

[sterile zealot]

you dont seem to be smart really

[gusty ravine]

if u dont know bipolar ur probably put

[solemn kiln]

How would this work with assessments outside of class. I usually just upload pdfs.

[abstract dagger]

smart enough to know im posting gemerald and not brimstone

[gritty perch]

He likes to impersonate me im scared

[late ingot]

I feel like anxiety and moderate paranoia can just be the results of having a bad lifestyle and some bad experiences recently though, and not full blown mental illness

[sterile zealot]

stop degrading the term gemerald wtf

[stray tiger]

You don't just switch manic episodes on and off like that, even for ultra rapid cycling. But he has some history of mania or hypomania, so bipolar II + psychotic depression would be my guess

[sterile zealot]

he says hes always had paranoia

[elfin scarab]

@abstract dagger please take this test for me
https://screening.mhanational.org/screening-tools/bipolar/?layout=actions_a

[abstract dagger]

THAT IS AN IP GRABBER

[late ingot]

hmm

[sterile zealot]

fucking schizo

[elfin scarab]

meds

take the test now

[late ingot]

you having a 5 minute big bang theory clip saved is proof on its own that you are not intelligent

[abstract dagger]

no im literally albert epstein

[stray tiger]

He's spoken in public about having some very typical psychotic symptoms on and off for a long time

[late ingot]

I listened to two seconds of it before i realised what it was, I can never get those two seconds of my life back

[stray tiger]

Lmao funi

[late ingot]

I guess I'm reluctant to call someone psychotic here without clear evidence

As a lot of people are emotionally unstable or say weird things

[elfin scarab]

i've already diagnosed him with bipolar

no way

[stray tiger]

He isn't necessarily schizophrenic, he's clearly described very explicit symptoms

[abstract dagger]

HAHAHAHAHA

i beat biplolar

shut the fuck up jame

Its

BIPOLAR

[elfin scarab]

meds

[abstract dagger]

goodbye motherfuckers

[loud girder]

@abstract dagger has decided to take a break from this server and is now muted for 24 hours.

If you want to take a break too, you can use the </touchgrass:1168235574474313768> command.

[late ingot]

thank fuck

[stray tiger]

@abstract dagger dm me if you need to talk or be untimed out, otherwise take a break from the internet and touch that grass ❤️

[pine patrol]

It also makes you recognizable

[sterile zealot]

never unmute james

[late ingot]

I don't think he should be active on public discord chats whilst this is an issue honestly

[stray tiger]

don't be selfish, people have a tough time sometimes.

[late ingot]

Talking privately to people who can help is fine, but he's just going to turn himself into a lolcow if he posts here

[stray tiger]

I mean you're right, this is not the worst place to post though

[late ingot]

It creates a social dynamic that is harmful for him personally

[stray tiger]

Possibly

[elfin scarab]

why not

[late ingot]

For the reasons I just said

[elfin scarab]

idk

he has fun here

isn't that good for him

[late ingot]

I think a group chat without someone carefully guiding conversation isn't really helpful for someone spiralling into mental illness

[late ingot]

Not neccessarily?

[stray tiger]

There's an ideal versus extant thing there, isolation is something I'd only wish on my worst enemies

[late ingot]

I think people need to be direct with him that his behaviour is self-destructive without making a spectacle of him

[elfin scarab]

i think it's better if he's schizoing out here among online friends rather than another random place

[late ingot]

I think its better to be having a 1 to 1 chat with someone when having paranoid/delusional episodes than doing so in a wider chat

[stray tiger]

I think that accepting and acknowledging his feelings without dramatizing them is helpful in a sense as well

[late ingot]

I had a friend at Uni who struggled with paranoid thoughts, he was always much better off if I told him to walk around with me somewhere than if he tried to engage multiple people in conversation

[late ingot]

Perhaps with a degree of guidance though? Like if he's repetitively stating more or less the same thing or not elaborating on the specifics of what he's feeling and why, I don't think it's that helpful

[elfin scarab]

@stray tiger, @abstract dagger wants an unmute

[stray tiger]

Yeah I know, I'm talking to him, in a sec

[late ingot]

Like if my friend tried to force me to agree with him on something or introduce a new paranoid thought I'd keep pushing him back to questions on the original topic

[sterile zealot]

lol lmao

[late ingot]

And I'd often reply more along the lines of "I don't think that's the most likely answer" rather than "no that's false" when he came up with a paranoid narrative

[sterile zealot]

he just muted himself 10 minutes ago

[elfin scarab]

and he wants to come back

he misses us

#IStandWithJames

[late ingot]

#IEnableJames

[sterile zealot]

you are pro brimstone 👎

[vernal mantle]

agree

[late ingot]

What is this brimstone thing anyway

[elfin scarab]

james is cool

[vernal mantle]

agree

[elfin scarab]

@vernal mantle is james cool

[vernal mantle]

based based

[sterile zealot]

it means something worse than coal

[vernal mantle]

train a peak erp model

[elfin scarab]

i am erping right now

i love erp

[abstract dagger]

my entire life feels like 1 episode rn

[elfin scarab]

❤️

[sterile zealot]

why do you need to tell us this

[abstract dagger]

im just not isolating myself i guess

but i am just a bit scatty ig

[elfin scarab]

everyone needs to know

[abstract dagger]

i was fine like 2 months ago

[stray tiger]

Premiere goonette

[abstract dagger]

you guys may even remember

but now im just

a mess

[stray tiger]

Yeah, that's how stuff like this works

[abstract dagger]

spiralling

[vernal mantle]

lol

[abstract dagger]

but

ill be ok evebtually

at some point

and then ill be fine again

[sterile zealot]

thank you for giving me an excuse to post this

[abstract dagger]

im sorry for bothering people i do feel guilty for it

[stray tiger]

That isn't something you, should put yourself or your loved ones through, and it's hard on your mind over time

[abstract dagger]

i rpobably should isolate but isolation makes it way worse for me

[stray tiger]

Do NOT isolate

[vernal mantle]

i could see it working

no particular feelings

[late ingot]

idk what your finances are but maybe pressuring yourself to fix everything ASAP is an issue and you could focus on reducing stress for the time being

[lavish vale]

the longer you hate yourself, the more compelling you make it for the rest of us

[abstract dagger]

its hard very hard

[vernal mantle]

yess dont 😭

[abstract dagger]

im retiring soon

[stray tiger]

He's fine on cash money

[abstract dagger]

im not made to work and i dont need more money

im a failed human

[stray tiger]

And I still don't think you should retire, not at all

[late ingot]

I didn't suggest you isolate but I think confiding in specific people and having more in depth conversations is better than a group chat

[abstract dagger]

and really i deserve to die

but i wont

so i will just live on my money

[vernal mantle]

nooo james freeem

[late ingot]

Become a monk

[vernal mantle]

cry~4

[abstract dagger]

im not really in a good state to hold a 121 convo

[stray tiger]

You'd have to be an actual bad person to deserve that. I won't say nobody does, but give yourself a bit more grace than that

[abstract dagger]

i am a bad person i made fun of someone today

[elfin scarab]

you're not bothering us

[vernal mantle]

yess james you are very awesome ok

[late ingot]

You still kinda need to though

[elfin scarab]

we're ur frens

[stray tiger]

I'm sure they'll get over it

[lavish vale]

yourae lack of being bothered, bothers me

[vernal mantle]

it's ok james it's a very smol thing ok

you aren't a awful person

[late ingot]

Because a 1 to 1 conversation actually allows for digging down into what's wrong rather than just the surface level stuff

[vernal mantle]

cry~4

you are great otey

[abstract dagger]

if you talk to people about your mental state personally its the best way to make people want nothing to do with you

or they will take advantage of you

[elfin scarab]

jaaaaames fren

you're awesome james

we lob you

[stray tiger]

Idk, people still talk to me

[abstract dagger]

yeah but you arent batshit crazy

😭

[late ingot]

It's more that you shouldn't trauma dump on someone who hasn't got the capacity for it, but you can be selective in who you talk to and respect their boundaries if its becoming too much

[abstract dagger]

i guess so

[stray tiger]

Debatable

[abstract dagger]

i talk to smelly abi sometimes but only surface level

[vernal mantle]

james you aren't bothering us okkk we want you to feel better

[abstract dagger]

she doesnt acc know im fucked up

[late ingot]

Well you have to overcome the paranoia/anxiety barrier too

[abstract dagger]

😭

[vernal mantle]

it's very important to me at least

[stray tiger]

Yeah, but that's fine

Different relationships have different scopes

[abstract dagger]

to be honest ranting about it doesnt change it

like im still me

same issue

[stray tiger]

Correct lol

[late ingot]

Because in order to overcome paranoia you do have to set out your thinking process and worldview to allow someone else to explain where things are going wrong

[late ingot]

Yeah you have to be willing to stop for a bit, let someone respond point by point, then engage with the points they raised

Rather than just ranting again

[abstract dagger]

its more a very strong self destructive tendency

the more its bottled up the worse and stronger the desire is

[stray tiger]

James honestly isn't nearly as bad about that as some nominally more sane people

[late ingot]

Do what I've done when my mental health is bad and reframe your self-hating impulse around the idea that you can punish yourself by continuing to live and doing things that are in your interest but you dislike doing

[stray tiger]

What kind? Self sabotage or self destructive behavior is common across a lot of conditions

[late ingot]

Not the most healthy day to day mentality but it does work to get yourself up from rock bottom

[abstract dagger]

idk like

[stray tiger]

Ols is right, this does work

[abstract dagger]

lets just say ive been on suicide watch a few times in my life

during worse periods

never put in a ward tho

[pseudo flax]

Drug time

[lavish vale]

positive affirmations dont work for angst/anxiety/depression, sad people want their negativity validated (see the three C's: Cornell, Cioran and Cthulu)

[also drugs]

[abstract dagger]

its weird bc i get crazy but i can still talk my way out of something like that

[late ingot]

I would never seriously consider the idea of suicide as it would make my family and close friends very sad

[abstract dagger]

only reason i have since decided not to

[stray tiger]

I mean that's surprisingly not detailed, but no real need to go into detail if you really don't want. I do slightly envy your ability to let go at such moments, something I never got the hang of

[abstract dagger]

even though i REALLY wish i could

[late ingot]

Well keep telling yourself its immoral to do it for that reason

Because it is

[abstract dagger]

i view death as normal and

[stray tiger]

yeah, definitely been there. Spent years there

[late ingot]

When I had one gloomy period I'd fantasise about volunteering to fight in Ukraine and dying on the battlefield

[abstract dagger]

see its hard bc my life isnt worth living for but my family are i guess

i feel bad for them bc i will avoid talking to them in bad periods

[late ingot]

You can also flourish for your family's sake, not just live

[abstract dagger]

i dont deserve to be a person im a failed human

thats the fact of the matter i think

i cant just be normal

or

good or idk

remmeber stuff

i can figure out things very well

but my memory doesnt work

i dont remember being a child at all

or any of my teenage years

i cant wait for the day i forget 2025

[late ingot]

Most people don't have detailed memories of being a child

[stray tiger]

Your family almost uniquely doesn't care about you avoiding or engaging with them when you don't feel well, family generally want the best for their family members

[abstract dagger]

i cant recollect any

[sterile zealot]

same

[abstract dagger]

they do worry though because theyve seen what ive been like