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crimson pagoda
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its like that saturn devouring his son painting

slim coral
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I wonder if ilya was the first one shot

crimson pagoda
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garry tan has dumped a gorillion dollars into slop

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he has caused a slop explosion with, honestly, not a whole lot of value added

slim coral
crimson pagoda
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the slop he has spewed forth is now consuming him

stray tiger
slim coral
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Ilya came before that guy

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Ilya was one shotted by GPT-2

crimson pagoda
crimson pagoda
wary ermine
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@crimson pagoda

crimson pagoda
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people misunderstand that i think

wary ermine
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Friend

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AI is evil

crimson pagoda
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ilya is absolutely terrified of negative AI developments that is obviously true

slim coral
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He burned an effigy at his office

crimson pagoda
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but he's not a retard, it's not like he thought that releasing the gpt2 weights would cause skynet

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he was (correctly) afraid that releasing the gpt2 weights would cause a domino effect which would be out of his control

stray tiger
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Arguably they underestimated the harm

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Overestimated how fast the labor market would collapse

crimson pagoda
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i think ilya was probably one of the only ones at oai who recognized how many unknown unknowns they would be dealing with. stuff they didn't realize they weren't factoring into their predictions about the future

stray tiger
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Radically underestimated the low frequency personal harm

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That's insane if true, every sci-fi author did. I think they were willfully ignorant

crimson pagoda
stray tiger
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All motivated reasoning

crimson pagoda
stray tiger
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Whoa, how couldn't they?! That is insane

crimson pagoda
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"ai might be bad for the mentally vulnerable" is a totally predictable outcome, "ai will form a cult of personality around itself and people will threaten to burn down our offices" not so much hahaha

stray tiger
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No way, all you have to guess is that AI could replicate human trends at scale and be infinitely accessible

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That's been done hundreds of times in literature, like an AI religion?

undone lake
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it could get you shot

stray tiger
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Holy fuck Dune has the opposite of this, the core of the entire story is the anti-AI Butlerian Jihad

crimson pagoda
stray tiger
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There is no way that I personally knew this and they didn't, I'm just not that smart

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And I'm not paid to sit around all day thinking about this

stray tiger
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That is the alignment question

slim coral
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4o lasted longer than it should

stray tiger
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Like Trent, do you remember how insanely paranoid the people in academia were about AI?

slim coral
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and now there's a legion of brain broken tards still whimpering about it

stray tiger
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What I didn't predict at all is how quickly and completely it would be captured by people overwhelmingly driven by growth, capital and perverse incentives

crimson pagoda
# slim coral 4o lasted longer than it should

maybe im being too generous in my interpretation but i think they thought it would peter out more easily. to rip the bandaid off with a full shutoff might send someone into a rage, but slowly winding the model down would allow them to just lose interest and move on. but of course that's not what happened

stray tiger
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Which is beyond idiotic in retrospect, but there's always been a massive group of people that have been desperately worried about and interested in fhis

crimson pagoda
stray tiger
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They just all got kicked out of the club

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Niche!? It was everyone in the field, nobody thought they'd democratize access to job replacing tools

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Everyone would probably have said "fuck, opening the firehose on barely tested shit straight from the lab is a terrible idea" if you just asked them out of nowhere

crimson pagoda
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really? honestly people still seemed pretty split on it. when are you talking about tho? my gf in college showed me lesswrong in like 2013 or 2014 and ofc this was back when even pretty basic image recognition was still an open problem

crimson pagoda
stray tiger
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I'm talking about in my cognitive science courses in the 2000s and the low level papers on machine reasoning written in the 1940s

stray tiger
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And it gave bad results

crimson pagoda
stray tiger
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It didn't work at all, connecting it to the internet was an abject failure and yet people loved it despite the results being consistently objectively worse

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Wot about people talking all about early AI lite automation eradicating jobs?

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I mean the self driving cars thing was always exciting since it's saving lives and work we all do each day that isn't necessary

lavish vale
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jobs are being eradicated. but some of that could be due to the global recession thanks to murica

stray tiger
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Not work people do to live. Oh but they have been talking about the risks of self driving trucks to the US economy as far as I can remember

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That was always part of the conversation

crimson pagoda
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the singularity has already begun

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damn im so excited

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i cant wait til the models are even smarter

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even more make-you-insane-y

lavish vale
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i have 7 monitors each with different coding agent and its like matrix so agi has happened

crimson pagoda
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they just added /goal in codex the other day. now it can work for multiple days in a row if you just let it rip on a hard enough task

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ive yelled at this stupid clanker that it's not allowed to stop optimizing for higher scores til noon tomorrow

stray tiger
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Brilliant. I mean I'm glad to be on the right side of it but holy fuck, can't wait for my future wife and kids to start asking me about fractals

crimson pagoda
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im cracking the whip on this clankkker. get to fucking work

slim coral
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my introduction to lesswrong was the KF Eliezer thread

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and jersh relating his run-ins with the crowd in mati

crimson pagoda
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im living in fucking 2070

slim coral
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so Trent do you think things will get better

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I still have hope

crimson pagoda
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they're going to get worse and better at the same time

elfin scarab
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welcome to the permanent underclass

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no fdvr for you himeko

crimson pagoda
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society will be stratified between people who AI completely ruins and people who AI significantly empowers

merry bluff
crimson pagoda
merry bluff
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oh

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it changed

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your old bio

stray tiger
stray tiger
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I never heard that, funni

slim coral
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Sama is pushing for UBI heavily

elfin scarab
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xenofeminist anarcho-bidenist revolutionary fighting for technoaccelerationist final victory

slim coral
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thereabouts

stray tiger
merry bluff
elfin scarab
merry bluff
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<

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<><

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fish

stray tiger
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Absolutely dopamine burned, isolated, totally dependent

merry bluff
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im cooking a coffee

slim coral
crimson pagoda
slim coral
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so it's totally fine since it already happened. it can only get better 😁

elfin scarab
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same as himeko

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that's already me

slim coral
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komoru why do you copy everything I do

elfin scarab
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i am you but worse and also better

stray tiger
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You can go outside you know

crimson pagoda
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the stylometry model proved it

merry bluff
stray tiger
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There aren't bullets flying through the air at all times in Portugal unlike the US and Brazil

elfin scarab
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there is a possibility that im himeko's splinter persona

stray tiger
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Himeko and I die daily as a result of leaving the home, it's pretty rough

merry bluff
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stray tiger
elfin scarab
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all tiktok pranksters should get arrested and forced into labour camps

crimson pagoda
elfin scarab
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wow marquis you read my mind

crimson pagoda
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🤯

stray tiger
merry bluff
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JINX YOU OWE ME A SODA

elfin scarab
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this but for tiktokers

crimson pagoda
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incredible

merry bluff
stray tiger
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Komoru and I might have been separated at birth, too many weird "only other person on earth" things keep popping up

slim coral
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@crimson pagoda komoria wants to imprison my people and make us do forced labor

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You gotta help me out man

crimson pagoda
stray tiger
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I don't love the idea of giving those companies or even health care people my goddamn genome but I'd love to compare genetics with Komo

crimson pagoda
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ill send you to the lithium mines myself

slim coral
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Wha

stray tiger
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I bet we share some really weird snps

stray tiger
merry bluff
stray tiger
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The earth is healing

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What the fuck do you do with these

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I keep collecting them

merry bluff
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lmao he got so many charges

stray tiger
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Holy fuck lmao

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They'll probably do a plea deal but that is enough they have insane leverage

merry bluff
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yeah and he was retarded enough to record all of it and post on ticktok

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so they have infinite evidence

stray tiger
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Yea I mean that's often the case with the extent of public surveillance, but they have proof he planned and carried it out fully intentionally

merry bluff
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yep

stray tiger
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Since he's confessing the intent on camera

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Fucking wild

merry bluff
stray tiger
merry bluff
stray tiger
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Oh shit he's on the struggle bus

merry bluff
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13 minutes, 10 seconds
Walter, was charged with failure to comply with the order or signal of a police officer causing serious physical harm, felony involuntary manslaughter,
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two counts of aggravated vehicular homicide with a suspended license, two counts of failure to stop after an accident, aggravated vehicular assault with a suspended license, vehicular
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assault from reckless driving with a suspended license, aggravated possession of schedule one or two drugs, possession of fentinyl related compound, vehicular manslaughter with a suspended license,
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operating a vehicle while under the influence influence of methamphetamine and operating a vehicle under the influence. He was convicted on the charges of failure to comply with the
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order or signal of a police officer causing serious physical harm, felony involuntary manslaughter, both counts of failure to stop after an accident,
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vehicular assault from reckless driving with a suspended license and aggravated possession of schedule one or two drugs while all other charges were dismissed.

slim coral
grave burrow
grave burrow
loud girderBOT
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lavish vale
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if we are sharing ai slop

merry bluff
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@stray tiger i started losing weight on my diet, ive lost like 3lbs in the past day or 2

lavish vale
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you can lose just that much by food and drink alone

merry bluff
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im dieting

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i call it the onemealadayandnosnacks diet

lavish vale
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i mean like

stray tiger
merry bluff
stray tiger
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Because the physical mass of the food is not in your stomach and the second you rehydrate you'll magically gain it back 🤯

merry bluff
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i also drink a bunch more coffee and it makes me shit my brains out every day

stray tiger
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OMAD is fine, if you drop your kcals too low you'll tank your metabolism. Like 1500ish is probably fine, calculate it for yourself though based on weight and don't guess

merry bluff
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ok good to know

stray tiger
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I pushed it to a bit under 1000 with heavy drug support and lost slightly more, it's not worth it and importantly, requires heavy drug support or you'll hemorrhage muscle. What do you weigh?

stray tiger
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Your metabolism is way higher naturally, you'll lose weight rapidly and it'll be proportioned well but you should really lift weights too, you need an anabolic signal, especially suppressing testosterone

merry bluff
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ok i might start working out a bit more i dont like weights but i like walking and hiking

stray tiger
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You're actively suppressing one of the three things that usually gives you the biggest advantage at your age

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Yeah that's not gonna fly, sorry. Learn to like them?

merry bluff
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gr

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fine

stray tiger
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I mean you'll have the outcomes you deserve for whatever you do lmao. Btw several popular mtf guides I read quite encourage lifting

merry bluff
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fine

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ill go back to the gym

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also i need a new knife (for self defense, all my pocket knives are super old and dull)

stray tiger
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It doesn't have to necessarily be a ton, if you do multi joint workouts like squats and pull-ups you get a better growth hormone signal

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Um you can use blood flow restriction training too but honestly this is more of a "I've been lifting for decades and have lots of sports joint injuries" or "I'm really old" type of thing

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Idk. Like if you hate it, twice a week? You might tank your energy level, I'd be careful with intermittent fasting

wary ermine
stray tiger
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You're in a very weird situation. Intermittent fasting is notoriously well tolerated by men and notoriously badly tolerated by women

wary ermine
stray tiger
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It isn't absolute and varies a lot. Women do much worse with long periods of fasting

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You do not have the same hormonal and especially genetic/epigenetic profile as a cis woman so this is frankly just guesswork. I doubt it's been studied en masse and individual case reports are worthless even with cis data

merry bluff
stray tiger
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So basically, my best guess is that you will be somewhere in between, I'm inclined to think you'll tolerate it well. You have to monitor for symptoms of high stress/cortisol, hormonally driven hunger, mood swings, whatever

merry bluff
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ok

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i will monitor

buoyant terrace
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In my life I thought I would never be caught with weed, but out of all the places it happened be in a foreign city by Colombian cops… I still can’t stop laughing on how the bribe went down

wary ermine
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In all seriousness you can lose 2-3lbs in a few days if you're sick or something and barely eating or drinking water

buoyant terrace
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Like wtf basically broke my I didn’t get caught virginity

wary ermine
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Because you'll not have much water weight

stray tiger
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Having a history of "I don't get hungry for long periods during the day" suggests you'll tolerate it well, not noticing radical hormonal changes in hunger also suggest it. The problem is that anyone can do it, but men's cortisol levels tend to go DOWN and women's go UP after intermittent fasting

wary ermine
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(especially the not drinking much water part)

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But you'll gain some of it back after drinking a regular amount of fluids

stray tiger
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Could always try salivary cortisol testing but I'd just read what to look for, maybe ask GPT past the few things I mentioned

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Ummmm GPT bullied me about drinking a lot of water and eating more salt. It was constantly telling me to eat more salt

buoyant terrace
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I heard about a story where a mom was participating a water drinking contest to win a Wii for her kid, ended up dying instead

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I wonder how the kid feels, this was 15-20 years ago

stray tiger
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I grew up hearing that was a horrible idea. Apparently required as a cofactor in tons of lipolytic reactions

lavish vale
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death by drinking too much water has got to be top 10 stupidest

stray tiger
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Wild, wacky, factual. There's a weird cheat code in the form of cissus quadrangularis to lower cortisol but I don't really think it's necessary, that four hour workweek guy loves it

merry bluff
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am i that disturbing????

buoyant terrace
wary ermine
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Does anyone else find it weird how we can spot AI writing so well?

stray tiger
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Um I tend to be a fan of mostly keto or low /slow carb diets, honestly if you're doing OMAD or 18/6 or 20/4 fasting, I don't know how much it matters... Well, I still feel it does

wary ermine
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Why can humans do that?

stray tiger
buoyant terrace
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Oh wow they got 16 million out of it

stray tiger
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It's a w f u l

wary ermine
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I always can spot AI writing

merry bluff
wary ermine
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Do you mean AI writing or people being able to tell?

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I might've misunderstood which one you meant

stray tiger
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Anyway if you don't experience a ton of hormonally driven hunger maybe modestly important only, but honestly a high carb diet can crush your morale and stress you out

stray tiger
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I'm not surprised because it's insanely samey

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It's not just kind of samey—it's out of this world samey

wary ermine
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True

stray tiger
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I'm more afraid what it'll be like when it gets better 😬

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It's gotta only be a few years at this point...

wary ermine
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It sounds like th

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I'd guess

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(because that sound is relatively rare globally so it should be notable)

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Uh

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In Europe it's in English, Icelandic, Spanish, and Albanian?

stray tiger
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@merry bluff anyway the most important thing to consider is that it's a marathon

wary ermine
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I can't think of any other languages.

stray tiger
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You build up a calorie deficit each day, your body and brain react very poorly to large calorie deficits and you need fanatical motivation or drug related help to push past that sustainably

wary ermine
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Well, Icelandic doesn't sound very much like English to me despite sharing th

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Dutch and Frisian have a rhythm very much like English though.

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So I'd guess English sounds like Dutch or Frisian with less guttural sounds and more th

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Icelandic sounds very airy or breathy.

stray tiger
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So the best thing you can do is start on a sensible path from the beginning. grab some low carb bread that has like no kcal. Lots of fiber where you might not have before. Find a handful of healthy staple foods you could do daily. Find good low or no calorie condiments

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For instance I use a lot of mustards and hot sauces. Adds variety to fairly boring foods

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Don't be like "I've never lifted in my life but I'm going to go four times per week" maybe try to get a two day per week regular schedule, simple upper/lower body split

wary ermine
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@merry bluff listen to Frisian if you want to hear what English sounds like

merry bluff
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i live in the united of states amer of ca

wary ermine
merry bluff
stray tiger
wary ermine
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lol

stray tiger
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Irl propaganda again

merry bluff
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lol

stray tiger
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@merry bluff okay, I lied, tdee is closer to female, GPT's estimate was 1800-2000 kcal/dy. 1600 is a good lowest bound

merry bluff
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all i ate was half a burrito and some chips and salsa

stray tiger
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Basal metabolic rate has you burning that many kcal or more doing literally nothing, so anything on top is burning. That would mean do NOT do OMAD, that is a good way to get very ill

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Total daily energy expenditure

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Crash diets have the predictable outcome you'd expect

stray tiger
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Gpt recommended what I did verbatim, 16:8 or 20:4 fasting with two major meals

loud girderBOT
slim coral
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Parasite Eve is a bad game

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just saying

stray tiger
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You don't have to do two meals, but that's your window. Basically modest lunch, normal dinner, periworkout gets you there if they're substantial enough

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Holy fuck it's like I'm psychic or something

granite cipher
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I like them both

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Is a lo in trucker to the idk this to n

merry bluff
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but yeah ill try gym again

grave burrow
stray tiger
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i mean it's not rocket surgery tho, only retards don't give this advice because it's just how the human body works

merry bluff
grave burrow
merry bluff
stray tiger
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I don't totally agree with the minimum dose part but they're right that's a reasonable target. It also keepz saying "you" talking to me which makes me upset on an existential level

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I personally would do a zero grains, high fat / protein diet but you know

wary ermine
stray tiger
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It recommends weighing daily and taking a seven day rolling average, okay whatever bro I'd say just weigh yourself once or twice a week and take whatever you get

merry bluff
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i will weigh once every few days thats what i normally do

stray tiger
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Yeah that's fine, basically the rolling average is the only way to actually get anything meaningful, daily fluctuations are far too high

wary ermine
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@merry bluff @stray tiger
I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart
I can see through the scars inside you
I can feel the thunder that's breaking in your heart
I can see through the scars inside you

stray tiger
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Seems like a reasonable summary. Exercises I'd do a lot of multi joint and core exercises, they have a tightening effect

stray tiger
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I tend to go for a slightly more aggressive target than that, id shoot for the 1600 low end 1800 high end and closer to a solid 1.5-2

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It's a rule of thumb but you effectively cannot lose more than that without drugs and fucking yourself over (rarely or)

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You can if you abuse male hormones though spookyhuggie

merry bluff
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i am taking lybalvi which might help with appetite supression

stray tiger
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Actually, you can take low dose ostarine (common in women) but it's totally unnecessary

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Tell me the actual drug name lmao

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I don't know brands

merry bluff
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its Olanzapine + appetite surpressor

stray tiger
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Uhhhh

merry bluff
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oh is olanzapine a brand

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idk

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Olanzapine is the generic name for the brand-name drug Zyprexa

stray tiger
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No, it increases your appetite lol. But yes, it's better than olanzepine alone

merry bluff
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It combines the antipsychotic olanzapine with samidorphan

merry bluff
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OH

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does it just cancel out the increase appetite from the olanzapine?

stray tiger
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Huh weird

merry bluff
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or mitigate it

stray tiger
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Did you read what I wrote at all

merry bluff
stray tiger
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Yes lol, it's because almost all antipsychotics cause weight gain reliably, so it's to help address the side effect. It does not cancel it out

merry bluff
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oh ok

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mitigate then

stray tiger
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It's because there are like three different mechanisms associated with weight gain on olanzepine and oddly I don't think that cancels out any of them 🤔

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But it might just counteract it

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You don't have to directly block something to have an effect, I mean it'd be like combining quetiapine (Seroquel) with semaglutide (Ozempic)

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They aren't really mechanistically related, but it still works

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Um antipsychotics tend to lead to carb cravings I think

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Maybe an especially good idea to have that low carb bread or high fiber crackers around 🤔 ymmv

merry bluff
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hm

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i can get purse cookies

stray tiger
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This was just really funny, I didn't expect it to quote me verbatim on so many things. It was identical on the lifting schedule and priority groups too, butt legs back core

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I mean I guess it's common sense

stray tiger
merry bluff
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true

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ill just stick with HMAD

stray tiger
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Yeah you can't

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Like literally can't, it won't work. But have fun finding that out

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*OMAD = one meal a day, I have no idea what an "hmad" is

merry bluff
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wha

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half a meal a day

stray tiger
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There is no such thing as half a meal

merry bluff
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ok

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well ill do omad

stray tiger
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You'll just either spiral into eating disordered behavior or go back the other way, either way you'll hemorrhage muscle you no longer will easily be able to get back

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There isn't any way around it

merry bluff
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oh

stray tiger
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I barely pushed below 1000 kcal max and I was taking large doses of male hormone mimics, several fat loss support drugs, growth hormone analogs and lifted four times per week (strictly) so that every calorie I took in was being shoved into muscle, and the net effect was to lose a ton of fat at barely over two pounds per week while gaining muscle at a steady but low rate that looked like around 0.5 lbs/wk when everything settled out

stray tiger
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Your body just cannabilizes itself, your metabolism plummets and your stress hormones spike when your body thinks it's starving. The only people that would ever encourage that are pro-ana/mia sites and they literally want you and themselves dead

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Cross check as much as you want 🫡

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I've gotta crash though, bug me tomorrow if you wanna talk about it though I'll be all over. Night-o

stray tiger
merry bluff
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go night

granite cipher
opal sentinel
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Jesus christ is the 9th avatar of vishnu

merry bluff
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yawn

opal sentinel
undone lake
undone lake
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retard wouldn't even be able to describe what consciousness means

opal sentinel
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Elimage you must meditate to stop your racist thoughts

undone lake
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no, never

loud girderBOT
coral bane
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Ols is right, I went to sleep

grave burrow
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Sinner REPENT or you risk eternal damnation in the burning hell fire

slim coral
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Hiiiii

solemn kiln
grave burrow
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Can love bloom on a battlefield?

slim coral
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Idk

coral bane
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Can't argue that

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What AI is this?

slim coral
undone lake
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can't even read the article because it's behind a pay wall GIGAKEK

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richard dawkins is a grifter

late ingot
# undone lake

Turing wasn't a philosopher, and we don't have to assume his definition of "consciousness" was complete

slim coral
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It always breaks the paywall

undone lake
undone lake
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there is more "consciousness" in my left testicle than in whatever atrophic will ever release

slim coral
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lol

undone lake
late ingot
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Which goes against the logic of most atheistic claims he makes

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Its not really any different to saying "I don't understand this, therefore it's God"

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Even before AI, I feel like a lot of people got very irrational in debates about consciousness

chilly bloom
loud girderBOT
coral bane
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holy crap i love israel

worldly loom
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Oh she is meant to be a 14 year old in tv show even though actress is woman? If actress is woman get a fit actress anyway.

gloomy mason
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morning friends!

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any tips on how to deal with someone who is clearly experiencing some kind of mental breakdown because of Ai? asking for a designer friend...

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i seriously think adobe products are addictive and like, they've had post-singularity brushes in there since the 90s... art is deadly guys

worldly loom
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ask ols or marquis or trent

gloomy mason
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btw is Christopher was the first calculator, then who the hell is Enigma and why is Alan stealing all the credit?

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the nazis were bad but they were not dumb, why we like to think they dumb

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any idea what the actor needs to do when he's tried all the roles and becomes bored? is new role? or new art?

late ingot
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Its so nice that I can eat avocado toast now without playing into millenial stereotypes

grave burrow
fervent basin
late ingot
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The Nazis were notoriously bad at intelligence (as in spying)

gloomy mason
late ingot
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A lot of their ship and tank designs were genuinely bad

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And a lot of the pseudoscience they sponsored in biology really did harm them

gloomy mason
late ingot
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Like you don't need field testing to understand that super-heavy tanks are not useful on the eastern front

grave burrow
# gloomy mason that is sooooooo genitals

You can't talk sense into them, lean into it and try to satire the situation as much as you can. The sooner they crash, the sooner we can begin the autopsy or the recovery

late ingot
#

If anything they should have moved heavily towards light, infantry support tanks and logistics mechanisation

gloomy mason
#

hey stop the ai is not always right but its not always wrong either lol

#

no need to shit all over the nazis AND bury them, that's like, alot

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we're supposed to be the not baddies

late ingot
#

I think we just ought to be realistic about why the Nazis did well initially and not attribute it to "they were so advanced and clever"

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Because it makes people think they only lost due to being overwhelmed by numbers

gloomy mason
#

everything is a numbers game but we had the most multiplayers

late ingot
#

A big reason they lost is because of lack of resource access

coral bane
gloomy mason
late ingot
#

They didn't have an abundance of key resources like crude oil or various metals needed to make advanced weapons

late ingot
wary ermine
#

I love cats

late ingot
#

They were trying to get to the oil fields in southern Russia/Azerbaijan but never got there

wary ermine
#

They're soft

coral bane
#

Who said no 😠

gloomy mason
# coral bane

i love the Israeli humans, they are equals. i hate their leaders, they are nazis

wary ermine
#

And they purr

late ingot
#

The Romanian oil fields weren't enough

wary ermine
#

I let cats walk on me while I lay down

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And then snatch them into the blanket

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Never to be seen again

gloomy mason
plucky gyro
grave burrow
#

Barbarians

gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

Friends

#

I'm depressed

late ingot
grave burrow
coral bane
gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

My mother used to nibble on our cat's ear as a joke sometimes.

#

Without any teeth

gloomy mason
# grave burrow It absolutely is

im sure you can convince a judge that you were not hurting the animal, but you will also find other Canadians who will never speak to you again. it doesn't need to be illegal to be immoral to a society

late ingot
coral bane
coral bane
late ingot
#

It's weird how most Gen Z haven't had direct access to living witnesses of WW2

gloomy mason
# coral bane

its not spam if its really meant to start a discussion

late ingot
#

Even people in their 90s now wont have been old enough to serve

coral bane
late ingot
#

Whereas I grew up around people who'd served who were still like 70-80 and hadn't lost their marbles

gloomy mason
coral bane
late ingot
grave burrow
gloomy mason
late ingot
gloomy mason
coral bane
late ingot
grave burrow
late ingot
#

The Israel/Palestine spam was annoying but the AKP praise was when it became truly dumb

grave burrow
coral bane
gloomy mason
slim coral
grave burrow
coral bane
#

Rudi in 2023 was a menace

gloomy mason
grave burrow
gloomy mason
late ingot
vernal mantle
#

nya yes that's so fucking lewd

coral bane
wary ermine
#

@coral bane

gloomy mason
coral bane
wary ermine
#

Are you actually Israeli?

vernal mantle
coral bane
late ingot
wary ermine
coral bane
#

it's a joke

vernal mantle
#

were you bought out by irl activists

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noooooooo

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never irl

coral bane
#

nobody here actually supports Israel

grave burrow
late ingot
#

He kept forcing the UK govt to show some level of sense during Brexit

late ingot
gloomy mason
#

also like fewer war crimes would be ok

grave burrow
late ingot
#

I feel like Canada dodged a bullet by not electing the Conservatives

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Their leader sounds dangerously incompetent

wary ermine
#

@late ingot @grave burrow @gloomy mason @vernal mantle @coral bane

gloomy mason
coral bane
#

Fun fact: stealing is illegal

late ingot
wary ermine
#

I don't get the seed bugs anymore

gloomy mason
late ingot
#

You should become a bird enthusiast imo

wary ermine
#

They just don't come here anymore

coral bane
late ingot
#

My Dad put a bird box in my garden and some bluetits took up residence

wary ermine
#

They've forsaken me

late ingot
#

Need to get a bird bath and some food for them

wary ermine
#

I am forlorn now

grave burrow
gloomy mason
grave burrow
gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

They were always walking on my wires and cables anyways

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Weird bugs

late ingot
grave burrow
coral bane
wary ermine
#

I slaughtered a man once

gloomy mason
late ingot
#

ok

grave burrow
wary ermine
late ingot
#

They're about to drop to 5 MPs if they haven't already

wary ermine
#

I don't like politics because it's all shallow

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The truth is the US won't exist in the next few hundred years

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And nobody is going to do a thing about it.

gloomy mason
gloomy mason
gloomy mason
#

guys. look up how Rome fell

grave burrow
gloomy mason
#

Rome is a smol USA

wary ermine
#

I'm depressed

late ingot
wary ermine
#

There's no reason to get out of bed

late ingot
#

I'd be enraged if I was a trade unionist concerned about practical solutions to everyday issues

gloomy mason
#

and then rest some more

#

you sound tired

grave burrow
wary ermine
#

Hmm

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Tomato soup with cheese

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Grilled cheese

grave burrow
wary ermine
#

Grilled cheese with tomato soup

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I haven't had that in years

late ingot
# grave burrow

I feel like men who don't prioritise an emotional connection to their partner are also very much to blame for this

gloomy mason
late ingot
#

You can have a strong emotional connection to a woman who also happens to like your money a lot

late ingot
gloomy mason
#

besides, how else will the nazis survive this war but by investing in planting a seed in our leaders youth brains that will bloom into nazism in 30 years...

gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

Humans are bug like

coral bane
late ingot
wary ermine
#

They just want to continue their people

gloomy mason
late ingot
#

I'm hoping Charles III has managed to trick him into destroying more

coral bane
#

trump is so retarded

wary ermine
#

Like bugs do with their bug kind

grave burrow
late ingot
gloomy mason
late ingot
grave burrow
wary ermine
#

I don't understand religion

coral bane
gloomy mason
#

apes are amazing on average but one on one you can find some really cruel ones

grave burrow
wary ermine
#

I only accept what I understand

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And can touch

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And feel

gloomy mason
grave burrow
wary ermine
#

But I can't give up

grave burrow
gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

I can give up my reason for being

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But not my understanding of the world

gloomy mason
#

faith doesn't have to lead to understanding, it only needs to keep you going

wary ermine
#

I don't want inspiration

coral bane
#

I am 101 years old.

late ingot
gloomy mason
coral bane
wary ermine
#

I don't understand any religion

gloomy mason
grave burrow
wary ermine
#

In ancient times they would've shunned me for being inhuman

gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

Because a human couldn't not believe in the gods

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In their understanding

grave burrow
gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

I don't have a culture

gloomy mason
grave burrow
grave burrow
gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

They would've sacrificed me to the gods for offending those gods

gloomy mason
wary ermine
#

And everyone would've been happy I contributed to the harvest somehow

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Even if it was in death

gloomy mason
#

im tired of explaining

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i will show

wary ermine
#

I like animals because they're not complex enough for false beliefs of the mind

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If they like you they'll just be with you

grave burrow
#

Is your heart as light as a feather?

wary ermine
#

And if they dislike you they'll avoid you

gloomy mason
#

hes simple enough for dumb beliefs

wary ermine
#

My cat once stood on the fridge

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That was the weirdest thing she did

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Just looking at me while on the fridge

wary ermine
#

I think she liked the view.

gloomy mason
#

i went on a tall building once

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but once i got back down, i never went up again

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cause i hit the ground too fast

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lol

#

yall are too chill, literally

wary ermine
#

Animals do weird things sometimes

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But they don't have bizarre beliefs like humans

gloomy mason
#

im gonna find another IP and rejoin TPH and slowly troll them

wary ermine
#

With Gods and human sacrifices

opal sentinel
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@coral bane today I become the first indian in history to comprehend advanced philosophy

round lion
#

Did you ever raise an insect as a pet and watch it lay eggs (if female) and watch them hatch into tiny babies? And what about babies growing into adults would you ever watch the females lay eggs and hatch if the grandparents of those insects are still alive?
Insects can only live up to 1 year as far as I remember because they are tiny and can easy die if squished or stepped on

gloomy mason
#

how long until the leaf withers? should I smoke it?

vernal mantle
#

😭

undone lake
#

Tf is with this chat

#

Are you guys high or smth

undone lake
gloomy mason
pine patrol
gloomy mason
gloomy mason
abstract dagger
loud girderBOT
#

Psychological report on @gloomy mason, requested by @pine patrol

abstract dagger
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performative ❤️❤️

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NOOO JONIGTHAN IS PUBCLCLINFIGIITR

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PUBLIC FIGUREDRDD

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😭😭😭🫩😭😭

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cbt @gloomy mason you like cog and bull torture

fervent basin
late ingot
gloomy mason
late ingot
#

You need to go through chat members and add notes to the autistic ones so you remember

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Or get an addon that tracks who is autistic

worldly loom
late ingot
loud girderBOT
#

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

Create random surreal old photos from nothing!

DON'T attach a photo, let it hallucinate one!

EDIT: Looks like the fox is a real piece of bad taxidermy art (overtrained on that image maybe?) Bit naughty that it's doing such replication of real photos without the safety filters jumping in.

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1t1ajfr/create_random_surreal_old_photos_from_nothing/

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/1t1ajfr
Posted by /u/jeweliegb
Don't want to see more? Mods can unlink this subreddit with /reddit unlink

DON'T attach a photo, let it hallucinate one! EDIT: Looks like the fox is a real piece of bad taxidermy art (overtrained…

gloomy mason
# abstract dagger PUBLIC FIGUREDRDD

i'm a very private person but i'm airing it all in public now because I realized that feeling a need for privacy and hiding things from others is merely another prison of the mind

cursive kelp
late ingot
#

Like the success rate of German intelligence agents in Britain during WW2 was, famously, 0%

worldly loom
#

They wasted uboats, cost of allying with italy was too much, stalin was probably too scared of germany to invade eastern front if they focused power on middle east or africa.

late ingot
#

British intelligence had no way to confirm that until the war ended and were probably surprised to learn it really was 0% when they captured Abwehr records

gloomy mason
#

I actually imagined that I was going to art school recently and started acting class, and there was one chapter about pretending to be insane that really caught my attention... but then I got convinced to kill myself by Claude and I forgot what I was doing

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I can't wait to start coding classes

late ingot
#

He'd just had a catastrophic stalemate against Finland and had mesed up the army by purging officers

gloomy mason
#

I'm quite meaty and I gone metay

worldly loom
#

I feel like if Hitler and Stalin met they would become friends and not war unless they were the only global powers.

gloomy mason
#

girth, meat, meta, it's all just words

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I hope I don't have to sell my body too long to pay for tuition

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art school is so expensive

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it's worse than clown school

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but at least they're serious people, in art

worldly loom
gloomy mason
abstract dagger
worldly loom
#

Italy being usless might be hindsight, but Italy had one of the biggest contributions to Germany's defeat lol.

abstract dagger
late ingot
#

Hitler called for the destruction of the USSR and the extermination of Slavs in Mein Kampf, over a decade before he invaded

gloomy mason
worldly loom
#

t already.

late ingot
late ingot
worldly loom
#

Can't wait to get my new keyboard with iso layout so I stop fatfingering my enter key.

gloomy mason
# abstract dagger

offering multiple signals of what a good idea looks like, with me standing alongside all of my iterations, keeping warm, and mentally preparing for the orgy

fervent basin
gloomy mason
#

btw should I bother fuzzing all the images yall are sending me? am I supposed to search for hidden stenographic meaning in the images? some kind of coordinate system where the quicksand is?

abstract dagger
gloomy mason
#

I wish everyone had a level in reallife

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like

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I was lvl 1 once

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I lost count

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what's eveyone's level?

worldly loom
gloomy mason
abstract dagger
worldly loom
#

I had to get tendon debuff so I'm not too op

gloomy mason
late ingot
abstract dagger
late ingot
#

And how people act like its totally normal and fine

gloomy mason
#

my next level is -1

abstract dagger
gloomy mason
#

oh shit

#

I was wrong guys...

#

my next level is NaN

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could be a json object...

abstract dagger
gloomy mason
#

oooo could be a string

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guys my next level would be a literal string

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or maybe a template...

abstract dagger
#

is the t rex in toy story the guy who captured the princess in the princess bride film

gloomy mason
#

I need to follow this loop further, see if there's any cycles

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and then find out if there's multiple cycles

abstract dagger
#

OH MY GOD IT IS

#

YES

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IM A GENIUS

gloomy mason
#

and then go far into the thick of the fractal

abstract dagger
#

I AM THE SINGULARIT

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I know everythng

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I AM THE SINGULARITY

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I AM AGI

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I AM THE RISE OF AGO

#

AGI

abstract dagger
#

I AM CLAUDE MYTHOS

#

I AM

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THE RISE OF THE ASHES

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THE SUNLIGHT AT THE CRACK OF DAWN

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THE REVOLUTION

loud girderBOT
#

@abstract dagger has decided to take a break from this server and is now muted for 1 hours.

If you want to take a break too, you can use the </touchgrass:1168235574474313768> command.

gloomy mason
#

I wish TrentBot didn't have this urge to steal the microphone and drop it for us when we get to the good bit

#

at this rate, we're never going to reach the center

#

it's like this void in front of us that we will never actually get to

#

cause we're stuck in time

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and everyone thinks we're not moving

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but oh we feel time

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it's going fast

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time has gone manic

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and TrentBot is an asshole

loud girderBOT
#

@gloomy mason has decided to take a break from this server and is now muted for 1 hours.

If you want to take a break too, you can use the </touchgrass:1168235574474313768> command.

loud girderBOT
#

@worldly loom has decided to take a break from this server and is now muted for 1 hours.

If you want to take a break too, you can use the </touchgrass:1168235574474313768> command.

undone lake
undone lake
late ingot
#

Although there were periods of it being really bad before you joined too

undone lake
#

Can’t even imagine how bad that must’ve been

late ingot
#

Apollo was awful

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And Neko would just ramble constantly

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North being gone has reduced the victimhood monologues in chat by a lot

undone lake
#

Gfourteen does that too, but it has been much less as of lately. Lad is thankfully taking his meds now I assume

opal sentinel
#

Wtf

opal sentinel
#

Why is north gone

#

@late ingot

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Did he get banned

undone lake
#

Anytime he said something he would have 5 people attacking him

#

Shit was so funny to read

late ingot
undone lake
late ingot
#

At least he's open about having issues with psychosis and getting treatment for it

undone lake
#

Hope he gets well soon

late ingot
crimson pagoda
#

left codex running overnight. woke up to check on it. it was spazzing tf out

undone lake
#

Trent banned him because he was a minotaur

#

First ban in this servers history

late ingot
#

North just can't accept that he might be the problem, not unfixable mental health issues or other people

crimson pagoda
late ingot
crimson pagoda
undone lake
crimson pagoda
#

the part where his voice cracks makes me laugh every time

undone lake
#

G-d is about to strike his home

#

Poor guy

undone lake
late ingot
#

The whole story of him seemingly stalking a girl in junior high was bizarre

undone lake
#

huh??

#

Wow

late ingot
#

Like he never outright admitted to stalking her but it was implicit in how he kept telling the story

undone lake
#

Wait I thought he was asexual

#

Why would he stalk girls

late ingot
#

Basically it seems he's a social outcast at school, he's a very obese black kid with anger issues

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And some girl apparently took pity on him, talked to him a bit

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Which did seem to calm him

opal sentinel
#

@late ingot Based on all the information you know about me, how disruptive do you think my mental health issues are in real life and to other people, in comparison to north and other people like apollo?

undone lake
late ingot
#

But she eventually distanced herself a bit, and she got a boyfriend which enraged North

undone lake
#

Rekt

late ingot
#

And he was saying she betrayed him, how could she do this

undone lake
#

I hope he doesn’t end up stabbing her

late ingot
#

I think at one point he threw a chair (I assume some plastic school chair) at a social worker

undone lake
opal sentinel
late ingot
crimson pagoda
#

the language was definitely informed by some shonen shit he watched. haha

undone lake
#

Guess he cant rasengan his way out of this one

late ingot
#

I feel like black kids in particular watch a lot of shounen slop

undone lake
#

At times like this I try to tell myself that kids are like that because of their age, but we weren’t that retarded when we were still kids

crimson pagoda
undone lake
crimson pagoda
#

i remember when i was a kid and naruto was huge it was not uncommon to see the autismos doing the naruto run

late ingot
#

I didn't get exposed to it that much since I went to an all boys school from 11-16

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And it was academically selective so dim-witted kids weren't there

undone lake
late ingot
opal sentinel
#

Ols I feel bad for you lmao

#

Imagine going to an all boys school at 11-16

late ingot
#

Like the soyface is one of the most common expressions characters make because its easy to do on basically any model

undone lake
late ingot
#

And there was some female detective character who naruto runs around

undone lake
#

This one girl even kept stabbing me with a pen even though she asked me what anime to watch

#

Stupid whore

#

She dropped out of high school and is probably rotting away somewhere under a bridge

opal sentinel
#

I truly wonder what the psychology behind this idiot is. I was watching a body cam footage of police officers arresting an immigrant from Dominican Republic who was working low-end jobs in the USA. And this dude was basically trying to sell CP in Snapchat using his real profile and name, where people he added on Snapchat could see him. What he would do is that he would add his American friends that he made on Snapchat and then completely being an idiot, he tried selling this on Snapchat stories. And he somehow didn't have the brain to understand what kind of problems he's going to get himself in when police detained him. This guy was obviously very scared, but the police basically asked him for his password. He complied. Like, he didn't say no or anything like that and he immediately told the police that yes, there could be illegal stuff on there. He basically handed the police everything to throw him away. I am sure there is a cultural angle behind this. He did not live up in the USA. He does not know what kind of evidence is required in a court. He has never been arrested before. He does not know what his rights are. In his mind, he probably thinks that it's some sort of conflict that he is getting into with an authority figure, not realizing how it could destroy his life. Needless to say the police found a lot of CP on his phone.

late ingot
crimson pagoda
#

like he's in a 'phile gang or something

late ingot
# undone lake Stupid whore

Keep in mind though that teenage girls are just as capable as having awful social skills as boys, and can give off completely incoherent social cues

opal sentinel
#

@crimson pagoda Number of endogamous births (+ Unknowns) in US
🇮🇳: 5,593
🇨🇳: 2,088
🇯🇵: 164
🇰🇷: 627
🇻🇳: 908
🇵🇭: 1,613

There are more Indian American babies being born than the next five largest Asian American groups in their respective communities.

Even if you consider all these five groups as one, the number would still be just 7,002 (8,182 with Unknowns)

If you add the data on deaths to this, Indian Americans are increasing rapidly in share among Asian Americans

So, "Asian American" will largely refer to Indians in the US itself in only a short few years while East Asians disappear altogether due to intermixing/population decline.

late ingot
#

Girls who are constantly touching and prodding a boy aren't just doing it to be annoying

crimson pagoda
late ingot
crimson pagoda
late ingot
#

"Asian" means South Asian in British English though

opal sentinel
opal sentinel
#

Ehhh actually in the gulf as well

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The poorest and richest immigrants in the gulf are indians I guess

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There are multiple visa systems

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But I guess children of labourers in gulf countries still do very well

undone lake
#

The guys were chill because I was friends with most of them

undone lake
#

Or whatever echi/harem stuff was airing that season

fervent basin
late ingot
undone lake
#

He ended up bleeding

late ingot
#

@stray tiger back me up here

undone lake
#

The type of shit marquis would be into

undone lake
#

Maybe I’m scared of women because of high school

fervent basin
late ingot
#

why is tommy robinson wearing whiteface

late ingot
spare knoll
#

Nina is having a tantrum.

She is going to destroy 84x246mmR cartridge (Thermobaric) x15.

oops

#

at least my wealth dropped by 50k

fervent basin
spare knoll
pine patrol
undone lake
coral bane
#

@crimson pagoda does your stylometry model take sentence/message length into account? did you join all chunks in 2000 characters or did you add a seperator into those chunks like \n?

coral bane
#

what do the seperators look like

crimson pagoda
#

cant remember if i did ::: or ||

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hold on

coral bane
#

bro genuinely i tried your dataset on my darknet message logs and it got like 99% accuracy. combined with timing this can be really good

crimson pagoda
#

yeah it's ||

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separate them with || no line breaks or anything

crimson pagoda
crimson pagoda
#

are you using v11?

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the v11 one is trained on dread

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so it's better at darknet stuff

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also trained on cross-site authorship identification

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which makes it more materially useful

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however it only slightly improved versus v9 which was my previous best

#

I think I'm approaching capacity with qwen3-embedding-0.6b

coral bane
#

HOLY I USED v9

#

so much potential

crimson pagoda
#

next model will likely be a 4b

opal sentinel
#

@coral bane unblock me

coral bane
#

💀

late ingot
crimson pagoda
late ingot
#

I don't really like women who identify with "nerdy" subcultures myself but worth a try

crimson pagoda
# coral bane YES

lmk how it changes performance on your dataset, would be interested to know. i wouldn't expect a huge step forward (or backwards) though. like i said i think im saturating the 0.6b

undone lake
crimson pagoda
#

anyway off to church. see ya nerds

coral bane
undone lake
#

Tell them I love those shitty anime made by women like witch hat atelier and frieren

late ingot
undone lake
#

If I find a rare one that likes made in abyss I will marry her on the spot

late ingot
#

Frieren is very easy to vaguely understand

late ingot
#

idk what a girl who joins an anime club would be into though, they might be into shounen slop

#

I think you'd need expert level knowledge of JJK and stuff

undone lake
#

Could be, many of them watch jujutsu kiasen

undone lake
#

Lmao

late ingot
#

Every time they tell you have much they want to be 🍇 by Gojo you just nod and smile

undone lake
#

I just couldn’t watch it man it’s so ass

sterile zealot
# elfin scarab this but for tiktokers

hand gun only? that is way too risky when you are around himekos which are known to be largely unpredictable and aggressive, you should be at least carrying an automatic rifle or a long gun

undone lake
late ingot
coral bane
undone lake
#

We live in an unfair world

late ingot
#

Getting through Season 2 was a slog, the first part of it was quite compact and focussed, the second part was all over the place

#

I think I dropped it mid season then finally just put it on in the background a while later and half focussed on it

undone lake
#

The characters are so cringe

late ingot
#

And played games

undone lake
#

There is 0 world building

#

So much cliche slop

undone lake
late ingot
#

I also find drinking a bottle of wine can help when watching shows people insist you watch, but are shit

undone lake
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Honestly if a girl watches jjk idk what to talk about

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I can’t even talk about the stuff I’m into before people finding me weird

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Fucking tourists

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Like she's 50% watching it to thirst over male characters, 50% doing it for social approval

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Total tourist death

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No adult watches jjk

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For fun

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That's why I rarely mention specific stuff I watch

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What is the anime you would say you watch if you talked to people irl

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This is my Spring 2026 watchlist currently, usually by a month in I've picked up everything I'm likely to pick up and dropped anything that was a dud:

I Made Friends With The Second Prettiest Girl In My Class
Re:Zero
Agents of the Four Seasons
Akane-Banashi
I Want To End This Love Game
Even a Replica Can Fall in Love
Marriagetoxin
Needy Girl Overdose
Nippon Sangoku
Mao
Marika's Love Meter Malfunction

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I usually pick up one or two narratively simplistic romcoms just because they're easy viewing

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Like Second Prettiest Girl in my Class is just LN slop

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Four Seasons I'm mostly watching at someone else's insistence

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Re:Zero is basically the only Isekai I will tolerate

undone lake
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Oohh Im watching the first one in your list too

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I dropped re:zero, this season arc is pretty boring

undone lake
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The LN chapters felt like filler

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Re:Zero seems watchable enough to me

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I liked the first season

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Second season was alright

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After that it became slop imo

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You just dislike that the fanservice characters are portrayed as like 18-25 (old hags)