💬off-topic

[mild nacelle]

but was he a leftoid or rightoid

[late ingot]

Seems to be clearly liberal this time

Unlike most prior cases where its more like "conservative background, confused views overall"

[crimson pagoda]

seems he did not post about it, would love to know

[mild nacelle]

I cant remember what I predicted

[late ingot]

What about ChatGPT or OpenAI in general?

[crimson pagoda]

kinda seems like he was a run of the mill CNN liberal person, not of any particularly insane political persuasion

[mild nacelle]

ahh I called it Trent wheres my money #💬off-topic message

[inland hill]

no way

is this fake?

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

The fall of chegg........

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1swuiw5/the_fall_of_chegg/

https://i.redd.it/46uszqwk5oxg1.jpeg
Posted by /u/SwaritPandey_27
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[crimson pagoda]

kinda nailed it lmao

[crimson pagoda]

i am not sure

[inland hill]

if they frame ts on ai i will eat my own hair

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-black-guy-homeless-guy-gif-12306843104510607338

[crimson pagoda]

seems to be generally pro-AI and technically involved with it. links to some research papers, posts about AGI in a positive way, talks about doing fine tuning of loras for stable diffusion

[inland hill]

is a smart *dude

[late ingot]

A proper DemSoc type would probably have an anxiety attack on the bus to DC before they got anywhere close to Trump

[gusty ravine]

living a somf life in return for a somft livin

[inland hill]

nasa jet propulsion

[late ingot]

Boring

[crimson pagoda]

did u see his manifesto? it's the most reddit shit ive ever read lmao

[late ingot]

Where's my narrative

[late ingot]

Yeah I did

[inland hill]

MKUltra

[mild nacelle]

https://youtu.be/Ykvf3MunGf8
they show a woman who has 15 ai chatbot friends

[late ingot]

There should be a subreddit where people can have their shooter manifestos proofread and critiqued

before they hit publish

Would be a valuable public service

[crimson pagoda]

ive noticed manifestos now are very short

[gritty perch]

Ai bot that finds plumbing jobs and automatically contracts them off to the lowest bidder

[crimson pagoda]

gen z dont know how to write a proper manifesto

[inland hill]

they will say he used cgpt for writing

[crimson pagoda]

they on they damn phone too much!!!

[late ingot]

I wonder how many are written on some notes app on someone's smartphone and not on a desktop word processor

[gritty perch]

Man we should bring back making Manifestos/ransom notes out of cut up pieces of magazines

Lol

[late ingot]

Needs to be a mandatory part of the school curriculum

[inland hill]

why do they even write

[gritty perch]

Make atleast kidnappers used to be creative

[inland hill]

i do not see any reason in writing one other than convincing yourself u are a saviour

[gritty perch]

Artsy as fuck

[late ingot]

Usually quite vague declarative statements, often in a Reddit-esque conversational tone or something that just sounds way too formal and rigid

[inland hill]

okay but why write one

[gusty ravine]

this is boiler

[inland hill]

.

[late ingot]

Idk if you guys know about this old meme (it was mainly a thing in Britain and it was over a decade ago now) but people would reply "Parklife!" to people who'd write really verbose, politically populist textwalls with very little actual substance https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/parklife

It was quite funny

[gritty perch]

Russell brand?

Lol

[late ingot]

He used to be a left-wing populist

[gritty perch]

Russell brand is such a grifter

[crimson pagoda]

isnt he under investigation for rape or something now

[late ingot]

Then he swapped to being far-right (many such cases)

[glass raft]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-nodding-gif-1942450417773390426

[late ingot]

He's always under investigation for that sort of stuff

[crimson pagoda]

good morning fmac

[inland hill]

"did it for the meme"

https://tenor.com/view/dog-with-buttefly-gif-4014052350525340766

[late ingot]

His strategy is to admit to the "technically legal, but not ok" contact he had with 16-17 year olds when he was like 30, whilst not commenting on allegations that were outright illegal

[gritty perch]

His words man not mine

Now hes a Christian man

😂

[gusty ravine]

stay christian folks

[late ingot]

Anyway he had a really bad habit for being verbose and it was just so tiresome

I sometimes feel like replying "Parklife!" to other very verbose people online but most people wont get the reference

[gritty perch]

Anybody see the Piers Morgan clip with Russell trying to dig out his favorite quote from the Bible for like 2 minutes in awkward silence shuffling through pages and cant find

[late ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSuHrTfcikU the original song has that same structure of someone being very verbose but communicating very little

[gritty perch]

Very verbose. Hes a talking head.

If you can spit out a word salad in a English accent you already can convince 85% of the american population what you are saying has importance

Lol

[late ingot]

My English teacher in Sixth Form (11th and 12th grade in American terms iirc) tended to mark things very harshly if they were too verbose and not getting to the point

Which sort of beat it out of me

[gusty ravine]

https://youtu.be/eoNFeHjXhtg

michail

[crimson pagoda]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGAAhzreGWw
@gritty perch

[opal sentinel]

@crimson pagoda did you know that if you want to watch a movie to tv show you can go to its imdb site and then edit the site name by adding play infront of imdb

Works for most of the cases

[crimson pagoda]

im on another level with my piracy brother. ive got my own home streaming setup with jellyfin

[opal sentinel]

You are commiting copyright violations think of all the producers who worked hard to make the movie

[crimson pagoda]

you will NEVER get me to pay

[opal sentinel]

Teach me how to do this pls

[crimson pagoda]

google jellyfin

[opal sentinel]

Promise me it's not a secret israeli spyware

[crimson pagoda]

cool it with the antisemitic remarks

[gritty perch]

Hahahhaha

I think its hilarious the onion bought infowars

[gusty ravine]

goyb

getting goybbed at 3am is punishment

[crimson pagoda]

what's a jeet to a foid? what's a foid to a goy? what's a goy to a netanyahu?

[opal sentinel]

https://www.wisdomlib.org/names/jeet

[late ingot]

@coral bane You might find this interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABirUD5cWHQ

[gritty perch]

Did you know not all jewish people are Israelis? Fun fact guys

[mild nacelle]

yeah its hard to influence global events without exterior agents

[sterile zealot]

wait, the shooter was an machine learning enthuasiast?

see, i told you to not underestimate the chance they were yudkowsky adjacent

[crimson pagoda]

i guess maybe ur technically right that he like heard of yud but he was clearly not a yuddite

[gritty perch]

We all know he was fine tuning loras on stable diffusion just to goon lets not make it more crazier then it sounds

[pseudo flax]

Why does it smell like 4chan in here

It's like a bad mixture of 4chan and 9gag

Also hi

[mild nacelle]

chatgpt has a tenth of the world's population as weekly active users

[gritty perch]

Wow another anime pfp femboy you will fit in here just fine

[pseudo flax]

Jamp you already know me dawg

[crimson pagoda]

hi curiousghost i havent seen u in a while

[gritty perch]

O

[late ingot]

why do you hate palestinians

[pseudo flax]

Hi Trent how are you

I been here like last week I think

[crimson pagoda]

im giving myself ai psychosis

[pseudo flax]

But you were kff

[gritty perch]

I dont lol

[pseudo flax]

Sounds about right

[mild nacelle]

most are just larping as femboys

[coral bane]

In Kenya half the population uses ChatGPT daily

[gritty perch]

Hahaha still making that one shot neurocrown? I imagine 20 years from now your kid going through your long lost things after you have been permanently admitted into a psych ward. They find the crown in a box and when they put it on it continues the cycle of ai psychosis

😂

[crimson pagoda]

still working on that, currently on the backburner because i got preoccupied with getting the authorship analysis model to score higher

currently working on getting more adversarial data for the next training run

[lyric flame]

How is that even possible.

What are they using it for

[crimson pagoda]

scamming elderly americoids

[lyric flame]

Ok that makes sense

[coral bane]

Education, not everybody in Kenya can afford a teacher and going to school, but everybody can use ChatGPT on their devices

[lyric flame]

That's kinda sad, especially because ChatGPT hallucinates a lot. More so in the free tier.

But ig it's better than plain old google

[coral bane]

Yes, I agree. Gemini would be the most helpful for this, it's most up-to-date and it's the best free AI

[merry bluff]

lol

[gritty perch]

No we are fucked did you see this one?

https://youtube.com/shorts/szqXppELItw?si=gLZZZK8OSHKgZJv4

These Indians are evolving so quickly 😭

Metamorphosis

[gusty ravine]

yea but do kenyan gpt users discriminate against kenyan non-gpt users?

[crimson pagoda]

who's "we"? brother im not a dumbass old person

[coral bane]

I feel like you would get a decent enhancement if you trained it with additional programatically determined data, such as time of the day of the post (if you wanna take the trade), which platform was used, writing frequency, etc

[crimson pagoda]

my thinking is that these factors should be added in as postprocessing, not part of the main processing layer

[gritty perch]

Well i imagine when we are dumbass old people the techniques will be even more believable. And its not like you need to be completely retarded to fall for a scam, it takes one moment of weakness to click on a phishing link for example

[crimson pagoda]

for probably 95% of users, if all their posts are 8 AM to 5 PM UTC, another sample whose timestamps are all at 2 AM UTC is a giveaway that it's a different author

also

a lot of my data does not have timestamps

e.g. the arxiv abstracts, or the project gutenberg book texts

[crimson pagoda]

by the time im elderly the world will either be a post-scarcity utopia in which i dont think about money at all, or itll be completely destroyed. either way, not a problem for me 😎

[coral bane]

yeah then make it an optional post-process

[sterile zealot]

that is what i mean when i say ey adjacent

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot i cant tell if u meant to spell trance wrong or not lmao

[coral bane]

oh, huge improvement potential: remove everything non-english

use fast-langdetect

[crimson pagoda]

absolutely not

i want it to be multilingual

that's later though

[coral bane]

dont

do it somewhen else

[sterile zealot]

theres not enough space to put trance

character limit

its funnier with trans though

[crimson pagoda]

i want an absolute fucking killer primarily-english model and then im gonna expand to other languages

[coral bane]

it should be different models per language then. if you remove other languages it will fuck up the english authorship detection

[crimson pagoda]

so far there's basically no data that i can add that makes the model worse

[coral bane]

your first model should be english-only. then you can get to the other parts.

[crimson pagoda]

unless i totally swamp the dataset with too much imbalance between sources

more data has so far been almost purely positive

every new source i add improves accuracy across all sources

[coral bane]

try removing non-english. it will significantly improve your results.

[coral bane]

try adding medium and X

[crimson pagoda]

want to add x but need better datasets than ive been able to find

[sterile zealot]

xitter is hard to scrape

[gusty ravine]

back to goyishly training ma data

[crimson pagoda]

putting my own together based on my own timeline is a non-starter because it's just a very biased set

[coral bane]

wait, you have the arvix and project gutenberg texts?

that is genius

[crimson pagoda]

all the existing twitter scrapes are focused on specific tasks

e.g. sentiment detection

and so also contain a non-representative sample of texts

[crimson pagoda]

i didnt fully process the gutenberg texts for training yet but i downloaded them and they're ready

arxiv abstracts have been trained on already

performance is great on arxiv which was really surprising to me

i filtered for single-author papers only too, to avoid contamination

[coral bane]

do it, it will significantly improve training

[crimson pagoda]

this is my current test set accuracy stats with the latest gte-tiny training run

| source | n | acc | AP | threshold |
|---|---:|---:|---:|---:|
| bluesky | 2,651 | 98.91% | 0.9992 | 0.45 |
| open-arxiv | 2,591 | 96.14% | 0.9918 | 0.49 |
| discord | 668 | 96.71% | 0.9945 | 0.42 |
| reddit | 2,156 | 95.04% | 0.9892 | 0.48 |
| stackexchange | 3,951 | 90.99% | 0.9675 | 0.48 |
| ea-forum-post | 961 | 87.62% | 0.9553 | 0.46 |
| fimfiction | 11,112 | 87.56% | 0.9522 | 0.45 |
| hn | 6,869 | 87.45% | 0.9501 | 0.50 |
| lesswrong | 345 | 79.13% | 0.8910 | 0.43 |

at this point my main limiting factor is now just that retraining takes 5ever because the dataset is now huge

currently generating a lot of LLM text with a variety of cheap shitty models because I want the dataset to contain more adversarial samples

[gusty ravine]

the universal constraint of all times

scraping without knowing

[sterile zealot]

rent 4x b200

[crimson pagoda]

my medium/long term plan rn is

once i get the dataset REALLY good

like once i feel like im p much done adding to it

and once i get distillation working properly (assuming i can, anyway)

im gonna train a fucking gigantic embedding model on the dataset, then distill that down into something usable

[sterile zealot]

https://x.com/ElonBachman/status/2048683413977092582 true

Bachman (@ElonBachman)

Newcomb's Paradox is the Breakfast Question for rationalists

X · Apr 27, 2026, 8:39 AM

[crimson pagoda]

https://huggingface.co/microsoft/harrier-oss-v1-27b
chunkiest embedding model

[sterile zealot]

people who twobox have the same type of retardism as the people who cant handle the breakfast question

[crimson pagoda]

fucking 5.3k dimensional embedding lmao

[sterile zealot]

who the hell would ever use that

[crimson pagoda]

genuinely no idea what the purpose of this model is

it scores 5 points higher on MTEB than its 0.6B cousin

[fervent basin]

it's microsoft tho so regardless it's probably shit

[crimson pagoda]

idk what the use case could possibly be where that kind of size difference makes sense

[fervent basin]

all microsoft ai research is shit

[crimson pagoda]

its currently #1 on MTEB by a decent margin and MTEB is broad enough that like

could it be benchmaxxed? sure, i guess

but if it's benchmaxxed for 100 different tasks is that really even benchmaxxing anymore

🤷

anyway, fine tuning it for a task like this, where i demand absolute maximum performance, is i guess probably the realistic use case of a model like this

[fervent basin]

it's microsoft so it will be braindamaged on purpose

like it can't say the letter "A" because it could be used to spell RACISM or sometihng

[coral bane]

extreme potential!

if you want to expand your dataset even more, try more research datasets

a huge dataset with a bunch of unknown sources, no copyright only

for verification/benchmarking
https://huggingface.co/datasets/swan07/authorship-verification - 250k

blogger.com:

https://huggingface.co/datasets/barilan/blog_authorship_corpus - 560k

Enron:

https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/wcukierski/enron-email-dataset - 500k

i know this is nothing in comparison to say discord unveiled, but discord unveiled are just single messages including slop like links, these are long bodies of texts

[coral bane]

ultra lmfao

[cursive kelp]

🇲🇱❌🇲🇱🇷🇺🇷🇺❗️ — Tuareg rebels published footage of four drone strikes against Malian and Russian forces in the north of the country.

[coral bane]

for comparison, discord unveiled has 935 million

[crimson pagoda]

im gonna chud out on whatever peepoo llm u asked to write these recommendations 😡
stanfordnlp/imdb - no author identifiers, useless
nocode-ai/imdb-movie-reviews - no authors
the other one also no authors
swan07/authorship-verification would be good but contains no author identifiers and so i can't convert this into the triplet format i need for training
barilan/blog_authorship_corpus CONTAINS NO AUTHOR IDENTIFIERS
enron one i might actually use

[coral bane]

most of messages on discord are just slop though and a lot of the users only appear a few ten times

[cursive kelp]

🚨 🇪🇸 Pope Leo XIV has just approved a recognition of martyrdom of 49 Catholics martyred by Communists during the Spanish Civil War

It comes ahead of the pope's visit to Spain in June

@CatholicArena

[crimson pagoda]

maybe ill throw my sanctioned-suicide dataset into training

[sterile zealot]

fuck you

[crimson pagoda]

very interesting finding

ive tasked clod with purposely fucking up performance with adversarial prompting

it's really having trouble though

[sterile zealot]

llms are useless at writing prompts

[crimson pagoda]

     === Summary ===
       strategy               15-class    cross-fam     same-fam  n
       (v7 baseline llm_gen)    27.180%      81.450%      66.860%  5618
       cross_imit              28.533%      82.371%      60.250%  375
       evasion                 44.000%      89.691%      69.250%  375
       format_voice            27.200%      78.536%      66.750%  375
       persona                 32.267%      85.629%      61.000%  375
       strict_format           28.366%      77.843%      68.976%  1463
       strict_v2               27.247%      77.267%      69.919%  1435
       strict_v3               32.776%      82.417%      71.920%  1495
       style_impers            24.533%      73.505%      61.250%  375
       __ALL__                 25.351%      74.617%      68.913%  6268

i told it its goal was to get 15-class performance to 14%. random chance is ~6.6%. so far the best it was able to do was 24.533%

model is still performingg ~4x better than chance even on purposely adversarial samples

[sterile zealot]

do openevolve

[gusty ravine]

do real ppl still actually compile meaningful data

[coral bane]

IMDB ones fair enough

barilan/blog_authorship_corpus CONTAINS NO AUTHOR IDENTIFIERS
it does, check the files, they all have a unique ID, i uploaded an example

swan07/authorship-verification would be good but contains no author identifiers and so i can't convert this into the triplet format i need for training
i actually knew about it, the point of it is either fine-tuning or verification, if youre running the model on your existing datasets then obviously the numbers will be high, try this for inference/benchmarking

as for enron you said yourself it works

[gusty ravine]

it would seem contrary to the dataset if this was never a case

[crimson pagoda]

oh true, swan07 dataset would be good to test on

yeah good point thank you

[coral bane]

i think the gutenberg books are going to infinitely boost the results

[crimson pagoda]

oh okay the barilan one might be usable too. I take it each <Blog> tag is one unique author?

[coral bane]

Yes, but each file inherently only has one blog i think, each file is one author with their own blog

[coral bane]

Okay, yes, the file names show ID, sex, age, self-declared industry/topic, and zodiac sign, lol

[gritty perch]

Lol this is kind of weird I just found this. Dude made an account 2023 and the only post on it is the recent trump shooters name "Cole Allen"

If it was edited it would say so right?

[coral bane]

huh lmfao

[sterile zealot]

@crimson pagoda i muted red and blue on xitter and now its giving me this shit 😭 😭

[coral bane]

@crimson pagoda do you cross-match authors of books across datasets?

also next time you run the benchmark, give us values for english only vs general

i feel like german is really easy to apply stylometry to

whereas a language like indonesian (bahasa indonesia) is a harder one

[merry bluff]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DXnS-7pD7OW/?igsh=ZHI4ZmZvYm03b2tu

[crimson pagoda]

@coral bane bout to test the swan07/authorship-verification dataset to see how my current top models perform on it

[gritty perch]

People on X are going into deep schizo conspiracies claiming time travelers are trying to assasinate Donald Trump because of this

[coral bane]

that would be the english-only scores though, good

[crimson pagoda]

predict how well my models will do
cc @sterile zealot

im guessing

low 90s

[sterile zealot]

92%

feeling very good about 92% specifically

[coral bane]

86

[sterile zealot]

nah

[opal sentinel]

My mom has some problems I am very close to 18 yet everytime I go out with her she has this habit of telling me not to go out on the streets without her knowing this is pretty embarrassing really here

[crimson pagoda]

alright im gonna narrow mine in at exactly 90

so im in the middle of u guys

waiting on results rn

[coral bane]

i feel like the earlier results were highly dialated by contamination

[gritty perch]

I bet Cole Allen chose the blue button smh

After reading that manifesto

Sheesh

[crimson pagoda]

my favorite part for sure is the objection Q&A he included and the one objection is like "as a half-black half-white man u shouldnt be the one doing this"

hahahaha

that's the part he thought people might take issue with

alright v7 (gte-tiny based) performed piss poor. 70.32% acc weighted AP 75.06%

not good!

[merry bluff]

ich liebe dih or whatever the Germans say

[crimson pagoda]

waiting to see how the qwen based v9 performs

much larger model trained on a much larger dataset so hopefully a lot higher

[coral bane]

didnt qwen like double your results

[fervent basin]

it has garbage texts in it lol

using " as a single quote, whut

is that on purpose or what

[crimson pagoda]

qwen got from ~89% to like ~94% or something. it substantially increased performance on the harder parts of the eval set but the easy parts were already mostly-saturated anyway

[crimson pagoda]

this is fine though, these are stylistic markers that stand out. these are exactly the sort of thing that the model should learn to represent in its embedding

[gritty perch]

Corny ass rebuttal too- I dOnT sEe AnYoNe ElSe PiCkInG uP tHe SlAcK"

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mocking-meme-pepega-batchest-gif-9913886907262782803

[fervent basin]

every single single quote is a double quote tho

[crimson pagoda]

oh weird

okay i just realized

[fervent basin]

that must be pretty fucked

[crimson pagoda]

the dataset is also very imbalanced

18.3% different-author pairs, 81.7% same-author pairs

[gusty ravine]

every day is like this

[gritty perch]

Its like my ipods stuck on replay

[crimson pagoda]

update: clod has given up on the adversarial sample generation task lol

best set it got reduced acc to 18.44%

still ~3x chance

[gusty ravine]

replay is what makes ipods ipods

better than yt

[coral bane]

it gets harder and harder

if you got the same 5% increase now itd be nearly perfect

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

The fall of chegg........

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1swuiw5/the_fall_of_chegg/

https://i.redd.it/46uszqwk5oxg1.jpeg
Posted by /u/SwaritPandey_27
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[crimson pagoda]

qwen is taking fucking 5ever to finish

[slim coral]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hBAcuWStM9Y

[crimson pagoda]

this is all true and accurate

[coral bane]

i feel like qwen3.6 27b would be better than your model in practice tbh

[slim coral]

is the Mafia real

[crimson pagoda]

LLM performance is an interesting little side quest but ultimately does not matter because it can't be used for things like style search or LLM RL training
(yes ik embedding models are technically LLMs but u know what i mean when I say LLM here)

[crimson pagoda]

what

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/christopher-moltisanti-sopranos-ma-dai-922114-gif-6961803426850142863

these guys

do they walk the streets

[coral bane]

llms can do style search

[slim coral]

Our Brazilian cartels are lame they have no aura

[crimson pagoda]

not anymore no

[slim coral]

damn

[crimson pagoda]

RICO becoming law totally fucked organized crime in the US

[slim coral]

😢

[untold vortex]

hi

[crimson pagoda]

RICO cases are how the mafia got dismantled

[karmic wind]

hello guys is there anyone who are interest in collaboration what can get a lot of profit together?
if you are interest. please dm me and lets discuss about that together. thank you

[slim coral]

Why do u look like

that chud

[crimson pagoda]

well what are you offering? why would i be better off with you than without you

[slim coral]

that ringed the bell

[crimson pagoda]

send me the spam link. i know its coming

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/a-gem-benjammins-chud-door-door-cam-gif-7224643390232569308

[untold vortex]

https://discord.gift/PZ76qKbfX8G8hjTKUKYjZntk

aww

[karmic wind]

are you interest in my opinion?

[untold vortex]

i was gonna gift u for being smart

[crimson pagoda]

[slim coral]

why do you have a megumin emote tonk

[opal sentinel]

Trent I have severe mental health issues

[crimson pagoda]

from the combat extended server. the rimworld mod. idk who this is

[karmic wind]

where do you live?

[crimson pagoda]

i am aware

[slim coral]

@untold vortex man you gotta hit people with AI psychosis

[crimson pagoda]

pennsylvania

how about you

[slim coral]

they're stupid they fall for anything

[coral bane]

thomas is from israel

[undone lake]

Sup

[karmic wind]

uk

[slim coral]

omg hi elias

[crimson pagoda]

https://fxtwitter.com/EvenRealities/status/2048740192241291405

Even Realities (@EvenRealities)

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FxTwitter · Apr 27, 2026, 12:25 PM

wow i can prompt clod constantly. everywhere. constantly. neverending

[gusty ravine]

anything related to anything is having sever issues

[cursive kelp]

The FAMa and Africa Corps are withdrawing from the Nigerian border. The ISSP is beginning to move. 🇷🇺🇲🇱🏴
As part of the agreement reached with the FAL/JNIM, the Wagner PMC “Africa Corps” and the Malian army evacuated their positions in Tessit. The town had been under siege for months, suffering attacks from JNIM jihadists and the Islamic State in the Sahel (ISSP). The town was handed over to JNIM, which escorted the convoy northward. Similarly, government forces and the Russians withdrew from the border town of Labbezanga, while there is talk that preparations are underway for the evacuation of Menaka, which is practically isolated. However, at the time of the evacuation, the ISSP launched a series of ambushes against the convoys in Labbezanga, while fighting broke out with JNIM in Tessit in an area where the Islamic State has a strong presence.
Map: [ https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=19IxdgUFhNYyUIXEkYmQgmaYHz6OTMEk&ll=15.441722065060697%2C0.582729540443192&z=9 ]

[coral bane]

we dont need another brit

[spare knoll]

omg can i get an inv8

[karmic wind]

???

[cursive kelp]

Fuck brits

@late ingot your brother is here

[coral bane]

bass, money, fancy clothes

[gusty ravine]

complexity is elementary

[crimson pagoda]

well i was going to but no i guess u cant. jannies said "no new people!!! 😡 "

[spare knoll]

😔

[idle elm]

Sup y'all

[crimson pagoda]

lot of new faces hello finnan how are u

[sterile zealot]

@elfin scarab @undone lake @crimson pagoda https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/2048393934964240384/vid/avc1/872x480/W2Nvn4KjBI7OvuLv.mp4?tag=14 holy shit, apparently jews control israel now

i cant believe they would do this, we need to save israel

[coral bane]

the jews secretly control israel

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/QWuAMBmyhE8

https://neurosciencenews.com/ultra-processed-foods-cognitive-decline-attention-30508/

@willow socket good luck

[gusty ravine]

processing well-balanced data to actually classify into meaningful patterns is knowing your field of study

[coral bane]

Holy crap I love goyslop

[spare knoll]

because sonic represents freedom and encouraging you to be your true self and not conform

very important for the autists

as for the christians

idk

[stray tiger]

He's a good guy but also the most rebellious E for Everyone mascot

So as a Christian kid, he's the cooool optiom

[spare knoll]

makes sense

[coral bane]

@crimson pagoda wheres the results

@crimson pagoda i vibe-coded myself a latin vocab learning app 😎

[elfin scarab]

Israel isn't white? Damn, why don't leftists love them then

[elfin scarab]

what the fuck

man

if someone sent me this i'd block them

[coral bane]

just delete this video already

[undone lake]

real

[abstract dagger]

shes ghosting me now

[coral bane]

holy crap i love israel

[gusty ravine]

i love ghosts

[abstract dagger]

its a good deed

[elfin scarab]

this guy is FUCKED

[undone lake]

https://x.com/sama/status/2048755148361707946?s=20

Sam Altman (@sama)

we have updated our partnership with microsoft.

microsoft will remain our primary cloud partner, but we are now able to make our products and services available across all clouds.

will continue to provide them with models and products until 2032, and a revenue share through

X · Apr 27, 2026, 1:24 PM

this should be bigger news than the new gpt model lol

[abstract dagger]

WHO

[undone lake]

*pegged

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

@abstract dagger you're an incredibly lucky man

[stray tiger]

Just report directly to the FBI 🚨

Uh hello I'd like to report an imminent cognitive hazard messaged directly to me, I have been tangibly harmed. This is not a drill

[opal sentinel]

Hey

[opal sentinel]

Im

[opal sentinel]

Sorry

[stray tiger]

I'm calling up Pakistan and asking them to visit your house

[opal sentinel]

Is pakistan a women how can she come to my house

But if you do

Pls do it

I feel lonely

[crimson pagoda]

qwen embedding model got 75%. almost perfectly in line w/ the performance boost that we saw in other tests

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot

[opal sentinel]

My ex fucked my life over and there's gobe

[crimson pagoda]

very interesting

different elements of the swan07/authorship-verification dataset performed quite differently

the worst performing ones were reuters (64.64%) and victorian (60.88%) which notably are outside of the training distribution

very good to know!

[worldly loom]

In theory victorian would be easy, like in Portrait of Dorian Grey Oscar Wilde had a distinct way of describing the environment anbd Victorian writing was more poetic so there should be more room for personal expression in that style. I haven't read much old writing though, I mostly read twentieth century fantasy.

[merry bluff]

it's over

[worldly loom]

idk what gobe is but it can get better usually/

[opal sentinel]

I truly am a paradox I am a chronically online socially awkward nigga but I have had many relationships before

[grave burrow]

What!?!!!

[stray tiger]

You could be next

I wonder if that'll hit the news

[worldly loom]

I wrote every type of jailbreak back in the day. I don't find appeal in ai gf, i can only be excited very very breifly and not really that much.

by chatting with ai i mean.

[opal sentinel]

Nigga how do you get excited at all

You are talking to mathematics

[worldly loom]

It's a bit like fantasing I suppose.#

[stray tiger]

How is reading erotica or looking a fuckin amine drawing exciting

[mild nacelle]

what has been innovated in AI over the last couple years? just seems like 2-3% better on benchmarks every now and then, which is a product of increase scale only tbh

[worldly loom]

It's legit bad I realised, a replacement for imagination!

[worldly loom]

The AI is getting exponentially better at detecting if it is in a test environment.

don't tell

[crimson pagoda]

gpt-3 was $120 per million tokens and had 4k context and was stupid as shit
everything is dramatically better than a few years ago

[opal sentinel]

For any black person reading this chat, I use the n word just like I use "fuck" or "bro" I am very anti racist please don't be offended 😄

[stray tiger]

A lot of practical implementations, consistency. Agentic is better. I definitely could not just have even a bespoke product, much less a common one like GPT code a full solution to a business problem de novo and basically have it woke perfectly out the gate as a demo or beta

[stray tiger]

annoying

[worldly loom]

Also I have this

[mild nacelle]

but you are just describing things that happen incidentally due to scale. I dont think a data center the size of the moon would smooth out the largest problems

[opal sentinel]

We got gamingjames who reads this chat

I don't want him to be offended

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/OATUEO0PxLQ

[crimson pagoda]

even at similar scale the difference is tremendous. gpt-3 was the last proprietary model oai released for which the size is known. iirc it was 170b or 175b. the new models completely blow gpt-3's abilities out of the water for a much lower price at a much lower size

[stray tiger]

ya what @late ingot ssid, his manifesto is only two pages, but it's even a bit more mainstream than Hasan but with a similar edge, closer to CNN op ed territory maybe?

[lyric flame]

Image generation went from looking like shit to photorealistic ones that are almost indistinguishable

[worldly loom]

I assume he means since Anthropic caught up to Openai.

[crimson pagoda]

video gen went from just not existing at all to being incoherent silly 1-second clips to seedance 2 too

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/iIaVEicA6EA PLEEEEEASE listen to this, I used to have this as my alarm tone. So damn catchy

[mild nacelle]

arent these improvements getting incrementally smaller over time, while training time goes up?

the little pig making his house out of straw. he can make it incredibly large and complex. but it is still straw. it can be blown down by a hot muscular wolf

[stray tiger]

That is correct, they need low level architectural improvements and basically know what they need to do. They're brute forcing the problem still to a large extent

[lyric flame]

It sounds kinda shit to me ngl.

Suno 4.5?

[worldly loom]

"Strike with mace in the face" nice line.

[crimson pagoda]

no, the increase in capabilities is ramping up faster than ever

[worldly loom]

Eleven labs music is the most dissapointing thing ever.

How cherrypicked were their demos lol

[lyric flame]

Eleven labs fell off

The dagoth ur meme videos were funny but now nobody makes them anymore

[mild nacelle]

I wonder how this would look with AI invenstment overlaid on top?

[stray tiger]

Lol, I have no clue, the audio is is full of obvious AI artifacts and a metallic glitching that adds some charm. I more like the song content and just generally how it sounds (and how it would sound if you recreated it using actual human vocals)

[crimson pagoda]

gpt-4 released march 13th, 2023 and scored 12.754
gpt-4-turbo released november 5th of the same year and only scored 13.715
7 months and 23 days for a score increase of 0.961

gpt-5.2 released december 10th of last year, scored 51.28
gpt-5.5 released april 22nd of this year, scored 60.24
4 months and 12 days apart, score increase of 8.96

[lyric flame]

Remix it on suno with pro and it will sound better

[crimson pagoda]

https://klipy.com/gifs/moving-goalposts-goalposts--k01KQ7Z0FMT6BGTNKM30ZK44EJN

[stray tiger]

Eh, I mean I used to do chamber choir type singing, I just need to get enough people together

https://youtu.be/DVnz9iyolLA produced music always sounds frustratingly produced, contrast with the original pop hit

[gusty ravine]

conceited work never looked better

[stray tiger]

I have really thought about that though Anathema, like I have a ton of rare old songs. Shitty quality mp3s, garage recordings, etc.

[mild nacelle]

isnt it plausible to attribute some progess to the inifinite money glitch sam altman, nvidia, and microsoft are using

[stray tiger]

It'd be coo to remaster them. I'm not very good at mastering audio by hand, only done it a few times past the basics

[stray tiger]

LOL my lady-friend thought that was the funniest line in the song too

"did they just say strike your wench in her face with your mace? Hahaha"

[lyric flame]

I think you can just upload audio on suno and vocals as well.

Although I've heard it doesn't copy the voices exactly as much.

Here's a suno song with 5.5 that I liked:

https://suno.com/s/sEi22qFajCIX2SvS

[gusty ravine]

i'll be leaving now

[stray tiger]

Isn't that where all the progress is coming from? I mean it's not magic, there's a lot of community and open source contribs but the massive investment is clearly what's driving the pace. Without it it would be closer to the pace of AI dev before it exploded

[stray tiger]

very clean 😇

[lyric flame]

Most of the investment has also yet to actually deliver.

The massive datacenters are still being set-up.

The models resulting from Stargate etc will supersede anything we have now by a wide margin

[worldly loom]

It'

s more that the gains in intelligence don't really transfer to doing much more, the ai a few years ago could do most of the same things, but at gpt 2 and 3 level a small increase in intelligence opened up more tasks.

[stray tiger]

@mild nacelle the big problem with this argument is that it's definitionally true because the first leaps are always the largest. True in many fields. You will never again have a gpt-3.5-chat moment

[worldly loom]

When AI is legit smarter than most people it wil be so crazy to have a fast working intelligence with that much knowledge.

[stray tiger]

You might as well remember a baby speaking their first words, then read their PhD thesis and say: "well, good job I guess, but this isn't as impressive as the first time you said 'boo-bewwy'" 22 years ago

Human language acquisition falls off a cliff after the first 5 years of life or so – imagine how flat a human linguistic aptitude progress graph would look. Practically a log curve as we get to the point we're forgetting more words than we're learning

[crimson pagoda]

it's not definitionally true though, recent steps have been huge and happening very quickly

[worldly loom]

"forgetting more words than we're learning"😭 shit

I had such a great vocabulary before.

[stray tiger]

comparable to the gap between GPT 2 and 3.5?

[gusty ravine]

someone once said to me whatever your flavor of choice is it'll probably haunt u for the rest of ur life

[stray tiger]

We spent decades not being able to have something string a grammatically correct togethe without heavy guidance

[gusty ravine]

i still don't know what they meant by it

[opal sentinel]

I was watching pirated movies in my website I need to turn myself to the police

[gusty ravine]

plugin? thing

[crimson pagoda]

in terms of actually doing useful stuff? yes, absolutely

i also dont know where you really start the clock here

[stray tiger]

3.5 would routinely fail at basic arithmetic too, how can you possible recapture the jump between "literally can't do it reliably, ever" to "reliably doing almost all math up to high school level"

[stray tiger]

1940s

[crimson pagoda]

the jump between "doing high school math" and "solving math problems that have been unsolved for decades" feels like a pretty good comparison and that's the point we're at rn

[stray tiger]

Founding practical AI principles date back to then and early applied machine intelligence as well, I'd be very reticent to go earlier

[worldly loom]

Ai is getting better

[lyric flame]

GPT 5.5 would also likely fail in basic arithmetic without code execution (i.e fifteen digit number multiplication or division)

[crimson pagoda]

we also made this switch in less time than the difference between GPT-2 and GPT-3.5's releases

[stray tiger]

I'll agree with that, but you really need a different kind of graph then. This is the "can it replace your job" graph

[gusty ravine]

now i need a another job

[stray tiger]

And that's where you'll see the bigger leaps with agentic, interactive multimodal, real time applications, etc.

[stray tiger]

I imagine so, I'm blown away a language model can do it at all. It can't roll fair dice still

[inland hill]

It can tho

Tools

[crimson pagoda]

no, u can check 5.5's scores on HLE and it shows results both with and without tools. very very hard math in that one and the score is still pretty solid even without external tools

[stray tiger]

I mean by itself obviously lmao

[inland hill]

What would that even entail abha

[worldly loom]

Can we say I can do 1567x43757345x0.3456 becasuse I can grab a calculator?

[stray tiger]

It biases the results heavily, I have a friend that does a lot of role playing shit

[inland hill]

It could make it like this

[stray tiger]

It has favorite numbers too, it's kinda funni

[inland hill]

Yes

[worldly loom]

I'M A FUCKING GENIUS

[inland hill]

Can we say you can swim if you have no water

[inland hill]

Ye but there are tricks ig

[gusty ravine]

this is like the fin that could

[inland hill]

I am benching 5.5 btw

In role play

[crimson pagoda]

no tools, reasoning effort low 💀

[stray tiger]

I really don't think there are without external tools, I mean a human can replicate it by literally rolling dice or spinning a wheel or flipping shuffled cards, but we can't contrive a random number either

[inland hill]

No the problem is not numbers

[stray tiger]

ur fucked @worldly loom it's over

[inland hill]

Ye

[inland hill]

I did not mean for random

I meant to make it more original

[gusty ravine]

imagine segregation was still used in todays texts it doesn't thats y ml dominates ai in this arena

[inland hill]

Frequent benchmark type of mine

[lyric flame]

What's the most digits that it can multiply accurately

[opal sentinel]

I have noticed that in most of the highly dysfunctional houses the parents are usually overweight or severely overweight considering what is normal

[worldly loom]

I've notice less people saying"ai isn't doing x, it's pretending to do x", becuase AI got better? It's not a meaningful distinction anyway, did a human you hired write you a code but the ai only pretended to? It relies on untestable assumptions in metaphysics.

[gusty ravine]

that's not pushing ai out of its scope in its own right

[crimson pagoda]

it's the (dumb tbh) question of consciousness just stated differently

[stray tiger]

AI was pretending from the very beginning, only really comes up with the sentience and AI girlfriend etc question imo

[inland hill]

Even if it messes up the counting it is better than total bias

[stray tiger]

That's what the A means, artificially recreating aspects or phenomena grounded in human cognition. Derpa der

[lyric flame]

There is actually a structural difference between human brains and generative AI.

We (pro-ai) say there is little because it seemingly functions the same.

It's basically structure vs function.

An airplane technically doesn't fly the same way as a bird, although it still flies

[inland hill]

Try this @stray tiger

[worldly loom]

People want to say ai is safe because they don't think it has something they can't detect.

[inland hill]

I made this up u gave me the idea

Oc tools are always better

[stray tiger]

Whachu mean? Oh you mean dismissing it? Yeah lol

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

GPT 5.5 Cloth simulation

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1sx0e8x/gpt_55_cloth_simulation/

https://v.redd.it/an5qqzndtpxg1
Posted by /u/Individual_Review771
Don't want to see more? Mods can unlink this subreddit with /reddit unlink

[stray tiger]

Ohhh it's just faking, it could NEVVVER replace my personal genius

[crimson pagoda]

just did multiplication of 2 twenty-digit numbers correctly, no tools. wow

[gritty perch]

https://x.com/i/status/2048431732450324988

David Puente (@DavidPuente)

This technique is well known:

1) create an account
2) set the profile to private with hidden posts
3) write posts with names or events (e.g. the date of the Pope's death)
4) if the event happens, you delete everything else and leave only the matching one
5) make the profile

X · Apr 26, 2026, 3:59 PM

[stray tiger]

I'm surprised how shit it is at writing still though

[inland hill]

Opus goat

[stray tiger]

That deeply undermined my expectations

[inland hill]

Onky place 4.7 beats 5.5

[stray tiger]

Opus can gargle my gnarble

[crimson pagoda]

now it's definitely still shitty im not gonna argue that point lol but we can at least say it for sure has improved a ton since e.g. gpt-3.5 or gpt-4

[stray tiger]

Normal human writing doesn't make me want to guzzle bullet soup

[gusty ravine]

ok if googles landing page changed overnite to something ungoogle like we would all lose our grips

[worldly loom]

I suppose weights based on training data rewards being able to predict bad writing?

[lyric flame]

We've come a long away

[inland hill]

Ig you know HL7 FHIR no?

[elfin scarab]

hi anathema

[lyric flame]

As a hobbyist writer, I can confirm.

Too much prose and too little substance

Hi Komoru

[stray tiger]

That hit a massive fucking wall that I personally never remotely expected, I would say it fell so short it singlehandedly made me rethink whether you can actually solve human writing

[crimson pagoda]

i think at the very least we've moved strongly towards what the mean person finds to be good writing. the bigger issue is just that normies have fucking awful taste lol

[stray tiger]

Either AI is way dumber than it looks or writing is way harder than it looks

[inland hill]

Anywqys my buddy bonesmashes xml code and i fixed an issue he couldn't find in the code. (It was a namespace issue lol).

He wanted to ask how the chatbot worked ok the problem, i wanted to just share my screen but he asked if he could come over lmap

So i showed him how 5.5 xhigh works

He kast used gpt 5

[elfin scarab]

bonemashes

[crimson pagoda]

the subjectivity makes this an inherently unsolvable task imo. i like hard sci-fi writing that is not very character driven but that's not a popular writing style and a lot of times books that i think are great end up having kinda bad reviews wrt things like character development, dialogue, etc

[lyric flame]

The former.

Writing isn't that hard.

AI just can't do implicit structure very much

[stray tiger]

The analogies are nonsensical, writing is overstructured and repetitive, there is no consistent voice, it refuses the same words and clichés ad infinitum

Also, you can't fix it by just saying "don't write like that"

That is not a matter of taste

[worldly loom]

I'm curious now, could you give an example?

[inland hill]

I think we would be frens irl

[stray tiger]

Those are all structural failures

[inland hill]

This is 99% of human writing too

Buy a random book online

[stray tiger]

Most humans can't write lmao

[crimson pagoda]

three body problem is generally very well-reviewed but if you look online all the complaints are about stuff like character development. i loved all 3 books

[lyric flame]

It's not X, it's Y

[inland hill]

Goated

So much goat

[stray tiger]

Not X—but Y

[worldly loom]

The story is great yeah, I watched the Chinese TV series.

[inland hill]

FR?

Elite balk knowledge

[crimson pagoda]

literally the only complaint i had was that it was 3 books instead of 10 😭

[inland hill]

Near 1:1

[worldly loom]

Sparking discussions on AI writing vs human creativity.

[inland hill]

There is an unofficial 4th many hate it it is great

[inland hill]

Ahaahhahah

Damn i forgot

Bruuh

Perfect topic

[crimson pagoda]

the antinormie curse is to be surrounded online by people like you who will forever be too geographically disparate to commune irl 😭

[stray tiger]

That writing really gives you a peek behind the mirror and reveals there's no ghost in the machine. When it makes analogies, it doesn't feel or think of anything behind them, and here, that actually matters

[crimson pagoda]

if ur saying its bad im gonna trust ur word and simply pretend it doesnt exist lol

[fast gull]

You can fix it, but it's not simple. Governance is the key. Prompts won't work. Anyway, 70% of writing is done in editing. AI creates the draft. Humans drafts always suck too.

[inland hill]

This reads like ai sorry

[crimson pagoda]

i wont have my mental image of the books soiled

[inland hill]

No it us GREAT

[crimson pagoda]

whats it called

[stray tiger]

Brick therapy now 🧱

[worldly loom]

My least favourite thing in writing is bad adjectives like "cruel spear"😬 , mate, it doesn'r have tendencies, it's a sharp point on a stick.

[stray tiger]

I worked as a professional editor and it is horrific to edit AI writing

[crimson pagoda]

xitter algo is now just serving me straight up japanese tits. i guess it's better than black-vs-white teenager fight videos. but still not exactly what I would've asked for

[stray tiger]

They weren't trying to say anything, unlike a human

[inland hill]

Cixin liu approved as paraquel

[lyric flame]

Yeah figurative language like that is dumb

[worldly loom]

Also hungry jaws for a shark that is murdering people in a rage without eating.

[inland hill]

So kinda canon but not totally

Regardless i made it canon for me

[stray tiger]

A human, you can pull it out of them. AI wasn't trying to pour out their proverbial soul so there's nothing to fix

[crimson pagoda]

sick, gotta download this

[stray tiger]

I won't edit AI writing at all anymore, except occasionally for myself for things I'm bad at writing (condolences, for instance). Even then I still have to scrap and rewrite from the start

[crimson pagoda]

kinda spoiling it for myself by reading the plot summary on wikipedia but it sounds like a nice alternate ending to the 3rd book

[inland hill]

If u liked the ||4d and the bigger things in the topic||

[crimson pagoda]

didnt like how they ended it. felt non-commital

[inland hill]

It will be great

[stray tiger]

Bbl nerds meeting

[inland hill]

Brh

Just read it

[fast gull]

Interesting. I'm working on a governance system for AI writing, but it's a world building tool really, even if I program narrative voice it's not going to create good prose

[cunning nymph]

sandymillington

Server Avatar

[inland hill]

It works @stray tiger

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot @coral bane i got access to pangram's editlens_iclr dataset 😎

[inland hill]

Whaaa

[crimson pagoda]

gonna see how well/poorly my models perform on it

[inland hill]

Nice

Is it not open

?

[crimson pagoda]

open-ish, you have to request access but it seems like people are granted access pretty easily

I've got a baseline for what I'd like to see my model score

[inland hill]

Would you share your research in the future with pangram for some compensation?

Trent: i need 2 million dollars

[crimson pagoda]

https://huggingface.co/adaptive-classifier/ai-detector
this model is a 7b and somehow scores piss poor

[crimson pagoda]

i think it depends how far im able to push it on my own 🤔

hell maybe I'd even compete with them 😎

[opal sentinel]

Trent I only use signal nowadays

[inland hill]

Well yk brand is strong

[crimson pagoda]

https://huggingface.co/bingbangboom/qwen3-0.6B-holmes-nt
this one seems like a more worthy opponent to compare against

[inland hill]

Pangram name is worth more than tech haha

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot @coral bane get in here

[opal sentinel]

Nigga why are the Argentines arguing with the uk for a peice of island with a few thousand people

[crimson pagoda]

i can for sure beat this

[worldly loom]

To own the sea around it, and it's a good base, there are reasons I forgot too.

[inland hill]

Fine tune mythos to this

[elfin scarab]

what's going on

[opal sentinel]

Do they think they are israelis

[elfin scarab]

is argentina invading the falklands again

[opal sentinel]

Yes

[crimson pagoda]

hes talking about the falklands

[inland hill]

@crimson pagoda this works just tested exclusively

Even if it messes up counting

[opal sentinel]

https://youtu.be/_9t1k_THPpM?si=wdYj-9I8bYdNrPhr

@coral bane

This video is for you

Your a troubled teen and you know it

[elfin scarab]

Whiskerstein*

[opal sentinel]

Wow this cats face is something I could kiss

Cats were made by God so humans could cuddle them

[elfin scarab]

Omg

I love cats so much

[crimson pagoda]

excellent. beautiful

im taking top score on editlens

im gonna do it

[worldly loom]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mogging-cat-rizz

[opal sentinel]

Mango went to Thailand and returned back as a cat

[pine patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbo-octopus-orange-takodachi-ninomae-inanis-cute-gif-24104068

[opal sentinel]

Who pinged

[pine patrol]

I did
What languages do you speak?

[inland hill]

Lessgo

[crimson pagoda]

ever since getting back on modafinil i am obsessively pursuing a couple of my hobby projects. feelsgoodman

[opal sentinel]

Three

[crimson pagoda]

i fucking love modafinil

[pine patrol]

Which ones

[opal sentinel]

Right wingers on twitter are genuinely disgusting, a guy got very famous because he kept making rape jokes and basically made that his personality

[worldly loom]

Don't speak so negatively about yourself.

[buoyant terrace]

lol so many of them, they say it on purposes for engagement bc they literally get paid for it

Laura loomer is one of them

[elfin scarab]

who

[pine patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/my-beloved-dumbo-octopus-sea-life-animal-heart-locket-gif-18293641263285903863

[gusty ravine]

mongo never booted yesterday

[sterile zealot]

post

[crimson pagoda]

oh yeah forgot to ping @polar folio 🚨 big day

[crimson pagoda]

even with no edits to the weights yet, i am doing decent on the task

it's a 3 class classification task so quite a bit harder than just ai vs human

it's ai, human w/ ai assistance, purely human

what I did just to get a baseline is

compute embeddings for the train set using the stylometry model and then get their centroids. then, for the test set, see which centroid is closest to the new embedding

even w/ only a gte-tiny based embedding model this still got 67.85%. not bad

[sterile zealot]

do big qwen

[crimson pagoda]

rn im doing some testing on my gte-tiny based model to see how best to approach this

what im thinking is

the embeddings are very information-dense which is great

bolting a classifier head on top w/ randomly initialized weights and then starting training is a bad idea though

because the first couple steps are going to completely fuck up the learned structure that's already present in the embeddings

[sterile zealot]

whats the task here

[crimson pagoda]

so what I'm doing for right now is training the frozen classifier head

[crimson pagoda]

3-class classification. human, human w/ ai assistance, or purely ai

[sterile zealot]

should be ez pz

[opal sentinel]

Opinion on circumcision

[gusty ravine]

like am i still a java dev

[crimson pagoda]

why would i go to you when i could just go to the website owner

i can just go buy an elevenlabs account on elevenlabs' website

are you dumb or stupid

[gusty ravine]

n.e.r.d i.c.e

[lethal finch]

Keep it cheap dude

[opal sentinel]

Trent pls can u gift me a chatgpt pro subscription account

[crimson pagoda]

why would i buy it from you though, it's the same price unless you stole the accounts 😱

you wouldn't do something like that though would you

[sterile zealot]

i was about to say this, fuck

[surreal siren]

holly shit OpenAI is now expensive too

[gusty ravine]

greatest buff

[crimson pagoda]

make it 3 bajillion or NO DEAL ❌

[gusty ravine]

y not like a half a bajillion

super slippery figures

[coral bane]

yoyoyoyoyoo

[coral bane]

whats that

[coral bane]

🤯

tbh i think i would get a better model than you if i had access to the same resources as yozu

[crimson pagoda]

im already up to 81.19% on the 3-way task and this is with a fucking 22M model 😎

doing 2-stage training

[coral bane]

holy

[crimson pagoda]

also

latest train run on the gte-tiny based model

did not converge before ending early

so i think i can still squeeze a good bit more performance out of gte-tiny

[coral bane]

why are you still using gte? does qwen not supersede it?

[sterile zealot]

do qwen 0.6b already

[sterile zealot]

its 22m

[crimson pagoda]

qwen does but

[sterile zealot]

smallest qwen is 600m

[crimson pagoda]

my shitty little 3080 does not allow me to iterate quickly

[coral bane]

agree

[coral bane]

use a h100 then nigga

[crimson pagoda]

using nothing but rented compute means im paying for every mistake

testing on gte-tiny means i can try ideas that might be stupid and if they dont work idc

gotta iterate quickly

[coral bane]

h100 with qwen is faster than 3080 with gte-tiny btw

[crimson pagoda]

none of these ideas are such wild changes that they won't carry over to larger models anyway

[crimson pagoda]

yes, but i also dont wanna pay for trying dumb ideas

if im gonna rent compute im gonna use it properly

[coral bane]

trent are you going to make qwen really smart by attaching your embedding to it to get even better results?

[coral bane]

11ct/h btw

[polar folio]

bro im not gonna lie i got gpt pro 20x for 60 bucks. not a cracked account

[coral bane]

cap

[polar folio]

i dont know how people do it but theres an online market for this stuff apparently

[crimson pagoda]

probably just credential stuffing

[polar folio]

whats that mean

[gritty perch]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-is-going-on-gif-27665132

[crimson pagoda]

get list of email:password from something that has already leaked, start trying the same email:password combo on a bunch of other sites

[polar folio]

no its a new account with freshly applied subscription. its not cracked accounts

[coral bane]

if you have mass paid chatgpt accounts then you dont sell them but reverse the API to use the tokens as if it was an API directly

[polar folio]

i was given the newly made email account as well that was associated with the chatgpt account

[coral bane]

and do the same for codex

[surreal siren]

it is more efficient and doesn't break nearly as much anymore. But they doubled the price so it's still significantly more expensive on average

[coral bane]

its 800m not 600m

[sterile zealot]

rekt

[coral bane]

its qwen3-embedding 0.8b

[crimson pagoda]

no?

https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-Embedding-0.6B

[coral bane]

ah yes i was schizo

@crimson pagoda what is that dataset you got access to you were talking about earlier

[sterile zealot]

fuck you

[crimson pagoda]

https://huggingface.co/datasets/pangram/editlens_iclr

[coral bane]

yeah whats that

[crimson pagoda]

open dataset from pangram

[coral bane]

right

[polar folio]

whats in the dataset?

[crimson pagoda]

it's a collection of human vs ai vs human-with-ai-help data

so 3 way classification rather than binary

[stray tiger]

it loves you too homie. now sell your blood plasma for more now now now

[wide arrow]

This is the open ai group?

Ok I am just going to assume I'm in the right place. Ok guys this is a little dated because Matt Knight is no longer the head of security at open ai, but I'm still a big fan of aardvark. I was wondering like if you guys could tell me if this looks like him?

[inland hill]

yk the guy who repolied to u is an actual fed right?

[inland hill]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-thiel-palantir-ai-surveillance-freedom-gif-6377398238918402775

[stray tiger]

there are definitely ways to make it a little better, though I'm consistently disappointed; editing, while necessary, is by far the worst thing to deal with in my experience. I generally recommend everyone - not just students trying to learn and avoid AI text detectors - just work with bullets or skeletons and never trust it to "get" your overarching concept or maintain a consistent voice

@south wing made one that was sort of cheating, but seems to work quite well by effectively preventing the AI from trying to do all things it's bad at. It doesn't make me think any more of robit writing though ragecrylaugh

[wide arrow]

I tried to base it off of this movie but my chatgpt was making him super buff. This is the first image I got and I do admit I do think it looks accurate but it wasn't the exact vibe I was going for. Let me find it

[stray tiger]

this reminds me of your mother

[opal sentinel]

I want to be a girl for a few days

[wide arrow]

To remind everybody, this is what he looks like

[thorny schooner]

Hi everyone!

I'm a psychology student conducting research on personality characteristics and AI chatbot experiences for my Bachelor's thesis.

Looking for participants who:

Are aged 18-30

Use AI chatbots (ChatGPT, Claude, Character.AI, Gemini, etc.)

Can spare ~15-20 minutes

Survey link:

https://forms.cloud.microsoft/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=JKjnj0H2e0ijvNzbetXfX8IAc3FJ6tdOoMUKi6EV9N9UMEY2RVRWNUhJQVJQVFBaNEFGMVJHREFVUy4u

SurveyCircle link:

https://www.surveycircle.com/en/survey/CRH3P9/

The survey is completely anonymous and all data will be used solely for academic research.

If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to DM me!

Thank you for considering. Your experiences and insights matter. ❤️

[crimson pagoda]

oh wow holy shit

[stray tiger]

Pretty good

[wide arrow]

And THIS is what my chatgpt wanted

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot @coral bane @polar folio i realized i tested the wrong model

i tested my v9 gte-tiny distillation of the v9 qwen

[coral bane]

GG

[sterile zealot]

lmfao what

[crimson pagoda]

not the v9 qwen

[sterile zealot]

fucking moron

[crimson pagoda]

the v9 qwen already almost matches SOTA

[sterile zealot]

stupid fuck

[crimson pagoda]

with no fine tuning

🤯

[wide arrow]

But after some effort....

[inland hill]

uuh do u work for xai

[coral bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1221970094436122686/1406188651750232085/attachment-4.gif

[crimson pagoda]

got 90.83% on test_enron which actually beats SOTA

SOTA is 90.5%

did not match SOTA on test_llama or test tho

on test it got 78.04%, SOTA is 94.3%

[wide arrow]

What do you guys think did I? Did I make it work? Is he ready for Saturday night fever and the movie staying alive

[crimson pagoda]

on test_llama it got 86.86%, SOTA is 95.2%

[inland hill]

@crimson pagoda i foun some weekend footage

[coral bane]

I LAUGHED IRL

HELP

[wide arrow]

That 6th dude is freaking EVERYWHERE

[stray tiger]

@inland hill I only have a few edits (first line analogy is weird, unless it's missing a word? I don't love it even if fixed). It's a bit play by numbers but that is better than most competent human writers, maybe a hefty majority. was that just 5.5 thinking or Claude or what?

[wide arrow]

I just wanted to see if I could get something kinda photorealistic with Chat 🙂

[lavish vale]

corporate shill

[stray tiger]

If it's Claude, it's still bad at analogies but thank god it didn't abuse them

[inland hill]

propaganda ahh

[stray tiger]

what are you trying to do exactly? I mean the last one looks fine

[inland hill]

5.5 extended

[vernal mantle]

spam

[opal sentinel]

@coral bane you use tor so much yet use the most draconian spyware on the planet that is discord

[wide arrow]

It was really hard to get because like let me show you what they wanted to make.

[coral bane]

Discord is the last service I use that I'm not anonymous in.

[wide arrow]

That's not realistic

[vernal mantle]

your intel cpu has hardware level spyware

[stray tiger]

yeah, not bad at all. I'm pretty impressed

[sterile zealot]

so does amd

[coral bane]

it doesnt

[coral bane]

AMD psp isnt remote access

[sterile zealot]

amd has the same thing as intel me

[vernal mantle]

amd's is more tame

it cant do as much as intel me

[inland hill]

5.5 is great

[sterile zealot]

the only non backdoored cpu is some open source riscv ones

[vernal mantle]

i agree

[inland hill]

bro try 5.5 medical reasoning on extended

[vernal mantle]

all closed source software is backdoored

[coral bane]

hot take intel isnt backdoored

[inland hill]

i almost choked it was so good

[coral bane]

are you a fucking spastic

[inland hill]

[sterile zealot]

bait or retarded?

[vernal mantle]

its backdoored by default

[inland hill]

so is open

visible backdoor

[wide arrow]

5.5 for all? Or is that the hundo subscription

[vernal mantle]

the last time open source got a backdoor it was a huge thing and got patched in 1 version

[stray tiger]

I'm definitely not a contrarian when it comes to writing, but there is something I can feel that's off here aside from being paint by numbers. I think it's the inconsistent voice giving me an uncanny valley sensation

[vernal mantle]

yes

[inland hill]

you think

[inland hill]

o yea it is not yet human

[stray tiger]

But I mean I'm not gonna complain, I'd be fine with this versus most of the slop it spews out for the rest of my life

[inland hill]

but try iot for medical reasoningú

[coral bane]

Show me evidence it's backdoored, the reverse-engineered parts of Intel ME don't show any spyware and all internet requests are inherently trackable and Intel ME doesn't even have Wi-Fi access by itself without the main PC's approval

[inland hill]

if it is closed how do u know it is backdoored

[vernal mantle]

the whole dye is backdoored tbh

[sterile zealot]

i dont have access to intel's cpu source code bruh

[wide arrow]

How did you get them to cooperate. Mine won't even help with lavender candy

[stray tiger]

Like what? I mean I asked it for help in a couple of my own medical cases, I thought it sounded a bit dumb

[vernal mantle]

nsa put a backdoor into the rng

of every x86 cpu

[inland hill]

5.5?

[stray tiger]

It wasn't wrong, but it was maximalist

[coral bane]

Are you a spastic, some CPUs literally have TRNGs built in

[vernal mantle]

yes thats the backdoor

[stray tiger]

It quickly wound that down, but only when I pushed back

[vernal mantle]

most cpus*

[coral bane]

That would be so obvious

[vernal mantle]

it wouldnt be

cuz its closed source

[stray tiger]

Okay, so like, how do you think it told me to treat the hole in my hand

[coral bane]

You can't spoof TRNGs...

TRNGs are inherently random by definition

Thus, true random number generator

[vernal mantle]

you cant make a bad trng or a biased trng? wow amazing

[coral bane]

Then it's not a TRNG

[wide arrow]

What is a trng

[vernal mantle]

they dont

[opal sentinel]

I use tails os with virtual box and I brought this laptop using cash from a different country, I use an antenna to connect to a public wifi and I have removed the cameras and microphone from my laptop

[vernal mantle]

its all backdoored and biased

[stray tiger]

Do you think it told me "do nothing" like I am doing, or do you think it listed five separate interventions to simultaneously take on as if I'd gotten a rusty knife inoculated directly with tetanus jammed in it on a battlefield

[vernal mantle]

and also theres probably backdoors hidden in normal execution too

[wide arrow]

Yikes

[inland hill]

well i am like #2 too sp

[stray tiger]

OKAY first you have to not touch it with anything, ever. If you touch it, you WILL die of gram negative anaerobes infecting your bones

[coral bane]

It means True Random Number Generator, it's used to computationally generate truly random numbers (unlike others basing it on the current time), it's often based on atmospheric noise or rarely radioactive decay

[vernal mantle]

it probably patches linux source code

[opal sentinel]

Who exactly are you rudi reveal your real self

[sterile zealot]

who gives a shit about trngs giving fucked results

[vernal mantle]

inside of the dye

[coral bane]

I am Rudi Jonas Hermann

[vernal mantle]

to send all data to the nsa

[sterile zealot]

delusional

[wide arrow]

Ohh like cosmic radiation from The Big bang or something Thank you, Rudi

[vernal mantle]

rngs are nececeary for encryption

[coral bane]

You can use it to fingerprint every computer individually

[stray tiger]

Secondly, it WILL radiate up your ligaments and infect the sheath and you ARE PROBABLY ALREADY DEAD OH GOD AM I TALKING TO A GHOST

[vernal mantle]

if when encrypting something your rng produces biased results then your encryption will have less bits of security

[opal sentinel]

@stray tiger what social media are you active on

[sterile zealot]

just seed it from io

[stray tiger]

only discord, mostly only this server and in DMs with a couple people

[sterile zealot]

not really any meaningful amount

[lavish vale]

peak slop

[coral bane]

Are you a spastic, AES and SHA are deterministic, unless you randomly generate your keys you don't need to be worried and your CPU doesn't know what the random key is generated for, it might be a video game running in the background

[coral bane]

Negligible

[stray tiger]

I mostly only respond to DMs too, which I'm sure is annoying to people who think I don't like them but I just don't think about it usually

[vernal mantle]

yes the kernel seeds both from io and from cpu

that makes the bias less but its still biased

[vernal mantle]

indeed

[vernal mantle]

indeed

[stray tiger]

and I always feel like it's better to speak in public unless they specifically don't want to share it

for the sake of the readers / lurkers and to get social feedback

[vernal mantle]

dh isnt

[lavish vale]

i only check my DMs when i want to laugh at schizos trying to 'correct' me

[sterile zealot]

even if the time to bruteforce is halved, that just means its 2 billion years instead of 4 billion

[stray tiger]

time to slide into drinko dms

[vernal mantle]

and pk crypto isnt too

[vernal mantle]

agree

[abstract dagger]

tarantilla seems lost for words

[coral bane]

The government won't crack your Diffie-Hillman encryption by finding out what key it used

[abstract dagger]

is it true they managed to hack someones bitcoin wallet or smth

[lavish vale]

maybe i check later

[abstract dagger]

did anyone see that

[sterile zealot]

no

[vernal mantle]

they may crack it if they will be able to guess the values

[sterile zealot]

its completely nonsense

[inland hill]

tru tho

i am like that

[abstract dagger]

thank you

[inland hill]

(no)

[vernal mantle]

no

[coral bane]

Just fucking delete this message already

[inland hill]

look @stray tiger

[vernal mantle]

they cracked a 15 bit wallet

bitcoin wallets are 256 bits

the security grows exponentially

[abstract dagger]

thats a lot of bits

[coral bane]

ULTRA LMFAO

[vernal mantle]

yeah lol its stupid and then some grifter went around and said "wow look i broke bitcoin"

[abstract dagger]

so why was there a 15 bit wallet in the first place

[coral bane]

Double of 15 bits isn't 30 bits but 16 bits

[abstract dagger]

oh yeah i know sadly

[coral bane]

As a proof of concept, those don't actually exist

[abstract dagger]

😞

[vernal mantle]

no i meant they made a custom version of bitcoin and cracked it

[inland hill]

they only need to catfish your dad to send your money so

[abstract dagger]

oh

[coral bane]

Backstory?

[abstract dagger]

💀

[inland hill]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-black-guy-homeless-guy-gif-12306843104510607338

[abstract dagger]

i work in IT

[coral bane]

Why "sadly"

[vernal mantle]

old bitcoin wallets are crackable tho in theory with quantum computers

[abstract dagger]

i hate my job

but my contract ends in 2 months

[inland hill]

everytin is w good enaff q computers

[vernal mantle]

when quantum computers get good enough*

[coral bane]

asperger v2chi prime: "double of 0.5 is 0.75" 😎

[abstract dagger]

so id rather stick out and not be a quitter

[vernal mantle]

but new bitcon wallets dont reveal the public key until its spent

so funds are safu

[coral bane]

mochi whats 0.5 times 2

[inland hill]

i will deliberately build a mars sized quantum computer to crack mochi

[vernal mantle]

price probably isnt safu if someone gets to the satoshi stash

[wide arrow]

Whoopdy 😃

[vernal mantle]

0.25

[gusty ravine]

idk wth i just made

[sterile zealot]

there was not

[gusty ravine]

screw np

[coral bane]

agree

[sterile zealot]

its a hypothetical scenario

[vernal mantle]

not really

they are fucking useless

[inland hill]

not if smth tries every public key

[abstract dagger]

thats definitely a con just to crash the market then

[inland hill]

as of now yes

theoretically they are far stronger than many think

algos are even worse than materials

[coral bane]

@vernal mantle can god reverse sha256

[vernal mantle]

not really they just get better time complexity on random things

[vernal mantle]

what is god

[inland hill]

ith current algos yes

[wide arrow]

A simulation of a study?

[inland hill]

if we are lucky we can make oracle machines

[vernal mantle]

please invent algorithm that proves p=np thanks

[coral bane]

lets just temporarily define it as something omnipotent

[coral bane]

plot twist n=1

[vernal mantle]

"Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful."

[vernal mantle]

yes

[coral bane]

false because "reversing SHA-256" is a mathematical (thus, logical) impossibility

you cant reverse sha256 by logic because its lossy

[vernal mantle]

sure

[abstract dagger]

LOL

welcome

[vernal mantle]

but a true omnipotent being can reverse sha256 even if its a mathematical impossiblity

[coral bane]

the question "can god reverse sha256" is flawed because "reverse sha256" doesnt exist