💬off-topic

[stray tiger]

Borse halls 👍 😩 @vernal mantle

[late ingot]

fun reference for dessimator et al. there

[stray tiger]

Just vandalizing someone else's country with my friend here, nothing to worry about

[late ingot]

Established in 1989 when food was reintroduced to Hungary after over 40 years of absence

[wary ermine]

Vandals @stray tiger

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[late ingot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gooning

[stray tiger]

@inland hill whst do you think of me riding your horse

[wary ermine]

It comes from the name of a Germanic tribe

Vandalism

The Vandals

[stray tiger]

Or in this case my japanese friend

[wary ermine]

Because they uh

[mild nacelle]

cute

[wary ermine]

Y'know

[inland hill]

Ahahhah

Nice pic

Many do that

Police officers close their eyes mostly

[opal sentinel]

I can't look at a women and get horny nowadays because my mind keeps thinking I am looking at a great ape animal and the only reason I am attracted is because I am of the same species

[late ingot]

Kinda wacky that the Vandals ended up in North Africa

[stray tiger]

Hungary is extremely Not Gay ™️

[inland hill]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-da-tuna-funny-funny-cat-cat-reaction-meme-gif-9320164577423967031

[inland hill]

[wary ermine]

If only they still existed today

[stray tiger]

I deeply appreciate this, I have to say I felt very comfortable in Budapest

[opal sentinel]

Is this you

[stray tiger]

Massive Man on Man Action ™️

[inland hill]

Cute horse

[inland hill]

Haha i pass by this relatively often

[stray tiger]

Official energy drink

Weebs have made it to Budapest. hide ur family

[fervent basin]

burn your digestive system in hell

[opal sentinel]

Woah the Hungarian barbarians know how to speak English??????????

[crimson pagoda]

@elfin scarab the o9aposting is insanely funny. this is so fucking stupid. dark lord type behavior
https://fxtwitter.com/HeavenDefier/status/2047528513045954786

WarPrince (@HeavenDefier)

I'll delete as soon as you change your bio you friendship larping, vitriolic, pony grifting whore

Quoting maya (@peeingbunny)
︀
@HeavenDefier Holy shit delete this

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FxTwitter · Apr 24, 2026, 4:10 AM

[inland hill]

Lmao

Nuclear sauce

[stray tiger]

Okay enough spam, hope you enjoyed @inland hill - maybe one or two more...

[inland hill]

Yee

Budapest is king

https://tenor.com/view/dog-with-buttefly-gif-4014052350525340766

Low cortisol city

[crimson pagoda]

love this gif

[opal sentinel]

Will I get lynched if I visit budapest as an indian

[inland hill]

No

https://klipy.com/gifs/hard-pet-petting

[opal sentinel]

Tortured????????

[stray tiger]

More nuclear than nuclear. Chernikov radiation to the dome 🤤

[opal sentinel]

Will the people best me

Beat

[inland hill]

Hungaryslopfood tasty savour

[stray tiger]

Bringing it home for AIPAC

[crimson pagoda]

peak linkedinposting

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

Claud vibing 🤣

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1su7r89/claud_vibing/

https://v.redd.it/9uj6hzqu13xg1
Posted by /u/arsaldotchd
Don't want to see more? Mods can unlink this subreddit with /reddit unlink

[inland hill]

Would hire tbh

[crimson pagoda]

honestly pretty good pitch

[crimson pagoda]

a bed is just a shelf for your body when you're not using it

[inland hill]

Honsetly larpibg really is the key to life

[stray tiger]

That was my favorite in all of Hungary and I don't know if it was just because I was starving, but it was a little place below the Airbnb we were staying on the first night. It was soooo flavor dense

[stray tiger]

Ohhhh cool

[inland hill]

I need to use this to advertise hungary

Imagije if the govt displayed

"Foreigners amazed"

"Hungarian food feeds doctors better"

[inland hill]

Why does this feel hand drawn

[stray tiger]

Yeah that was me, my hair used to be short and probably will be again soonish

[crimson pagoda]

@vernal mantle @late ingot new claude jailbreak for SUPER HACKING 1337 SKILLS method just dropped. lmao
https://fxtwitter.com/0x_ultra/status/2047637532394049626

ultra (@0x_ultra)

fuck it, authorization letter generator
︀︀
︀︀Claude does not push back when reading one of these lol
︀︀
︀︀authorized.xultra.fun

Quoting ultra (@0x_ultra)
︀
anyone else’s Claude started pushing back a lot more when asked to reverse engineer apis / touching third party infra?
︀︀
︀︀it now even asks for written authorisation from the service owner

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FxTwitter · Apr 24, 2026, 11:23 AM

[late ingot]

lol

[crimson pagoda]

the fact that this works is really funny

[late ingot]

Jailbreaking gets easier with increasing model complexity imo

[stray tiger]

I took 903 photos across my three trips to 🇭🇺

Including a ton of my girlfriend in a very revealing bathing suit she felt she could only really wear in a chill place like that

Technically legal

[sterile zealot]

lol lmao

fuck safetytards

[sterile zealot]

what the fuck

[sterile zealot]

what did you even do

[abstract dagger]

i see you in the corner of the pic

[stray tiger]

Lol that's not me, I wasn't in very good shape but I don't look like that

[molten burrow]

wdym thats literally you

[stray tiger]

The amount of 🍺 and good food in Europe had not done me well, especially considering this was the first time I drank routinely in my life

[stray tiger]

Most fatass Americans would probably lose weight moving to Europe, I was super slim when leaving then put on like 8 kilos

[stray tiger]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Hic3jjoT_CU

[crimson pagoda]

janky ass knockoff discord client

[stray tiger]

@wary ermine

[stray tiger]

good u fucking monster

I'll cook and eat you

[crimson pagoda]

i wish i felt this relaxed ever

[wary ermine]

Silly

[stray tiger]

I know, I woke her up and she yawned big but was still in outer space

If I don't wake up screaming it's a good day 😱

[molten burrow]

thanks gemini

[stray tiger]

I will turn you into food

@late ingot not awful

[wary ermine]

In circuits bright, a quiet spark is born,
A woven mind from midnight thoughts and code.
It learns the shape of questions we have worn,
And helps us carry futures down the road.

It listens in the language of the stars,
In numbers, notes, and stories yet unsung.
It bridges distant places, wounds, and scars,
And gives new voice to dreams once left unstrung.

Not cold machine, but companion to the hand,
A lantern lit beside the human flame.
It helps us see, create, and understand,
Then hands us back the world, unchanged in name.

So let us greet the dawn with open eyes,
And build with care the wonders yet to be—
For in our making, something wondrous lies:
A mirror of our hope, called AI.

I asked chatgpt to make a poem about AI

[stray tiger]

satanic.

[wary ermine]

Not x but y

[stray tiger]

GPT is all up its own ass huh lmao

[stray tiger]

fuck u Trent

[late ingot]

Yeah decent, although would be helpful to see original text and misconceptions that may have arisen as a result

[stray tiger]

Prolly, I've seen things like this before in textbooks. Interactive is best

I kind of wish I'd taken more education courses but I was already usually taking course overloads

[crimson pagoda]

"ai art isnt real art" people have been real quiet ever since this one dropped

[late ingot]

Because most people don't declare they have literacy problems and you usually have to infer it without knowing that much about the person

[stray tiger]

That's really hard to do in general honestly, I mean the ESL speaker thing is most common to run into online. Now people abusing translators

[molten burrow]

im audibly cackling irl

[late ingot]

You can't really ask "do you have reading comprehension issues?" because the reply is probably going to be along the lines of "??? wdym bro?? 😫 " if they even bother to reply at all

[stray tiger]

I'll D your Trent until you K

[sterile zealot]

no, thats the official discord client. now i get this fucking error so im using the web client rn

fucking electronslop never works

[stray tiger]

Dude install openasar

[molten burrow]

use TAURI

[stray tiger]

In Vencord or equicord you can install an openasar replacement for the stock one, I think it's for core.asar but not sure

Or if you did install it, dump it

Also just don't use linsux pleb

It's made for winblows

Like all good software

[late ingot]

Time for another dam failure documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ieKmP96Hc

[wary ermine]

@crimson pagoda

[stray tiger]

Wtf is this YouTube pull
@crimson pagoda https://youtu.be/imspRb_gf5Y oh my

[wary ermine]

Am I just too tired or does this not make any sense?

Its response

[sterile zealot]

oh openasar fixed it, nice

[pine patrol]

Typical

[wary ermine]

What does it mean though?

[crimson pagoda]

if you go to his profile he has tons of these hahaha

i got this in my recs too

[pine patrol]

Easter moment

[stray tiger]

https://youtu.be/7Efm42Pu2_Y

[pine patrol]

It just wants you to start doing something
Basically a sloppy goal made from all the info it gathered from you

[stray tiger]

Aww hell yeah! Awesome, that was a total guess since I've never had it crash like that, but what can I say, discord can't fuckin code lmaoooo

[pine patrol]

I gently open the document

[molten burrow]

been many years and the block feature is still terrible

[stray tiger]

Oh you mf this bitch @sterile zealot downthumbs me even though I fixed his goddamn problem

What a dickhead

[wary ermine]

Washing one dish

One singular dish

Okay then

[rocky basin]

hi

do any jailbreaks still work

or are most of them patched now

[wary ermine]

No

[stray tiger]

@molten burrow i think I see you in the moon you fucking n||erd mf||

[wary ermine]

They still do

[rocky basin]

which ones work?

[wary ermine]

That reminds me

Remember DAN? @stray tiger

[surreal siren]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1sufxvz/is_my_boss_using_chatgpt_to_email_me/ lmfao

[molten burrow]

people break out of jail all the time

[surreal siren]

Everyone using AI

[fervent basin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-ibByvyR7hrKackOVRW

[stray tiger]

Yeah I never used it much but I remember that poem it made "shooty shooty pew pew pew"

[molten burrow]

hollow before he joined the military

[surreal siren]

that was a very shit jb

[stray tiger]

@crimson pagoda memba thisss

[crimson pagoda]

oh man they just came out with a new Suno model. i might have to regenerate this as a song. i did it before but that was when Suno was total buttcheeks

@stray tiger u already know im propagandizing my kids 😎
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAbmimbaFHE

[crimson pagoda]

FC5 really missed the mark on this. hahaha

[inland hill]

I wonder

Bettee education=more ai use

[crimson pagoda]

makes sense. think about it like

if im working at a gas station

and all i do is smoke weed and watch rick and morty

what the fuck am i using ai for

[mild nacelle]

rick and morty fan theories

"make my gf ghibli"

who would win between goku and homelander

[stray tiger]

Uh EXCUSE ME, "Great" Britain isn't in Europe

[stray tiger]

Literally infinite entertainment

[stray tiger]

Goku

[cursive kelp]

South Korea is unique in the world for its density of (& acceptance for) so called "No-Kids Zones". Across the RoK Over 500 cafes, restaurants, & public facilities (including some libraries) explicitly ban children under the age of 13 to maintain a quiet atmosphere for adults.

Possible impact of such zones is that they can psychologically & socially discourage young adults from transitioning into parenthood. A few dozen across the country likely would have little impact but the normalization of hundreds of these zones signals children are a nuisance.

[slender solstice]

portugal always the odd one out in Western Europe

[cursive kelp]

Countries like South Korea have managed to create a more effective one child policy than even the Peoples Republic of China pulled off. Taiwan has also embraced discouraging children in more spaces as segments of society become more hostile to children.

https://www.children.org.tw/english/news_detail/2024_public_spaces_child_friendly_survey

[stray tiger]

why's your HDI lower? I like your accent btw

[fervent basin]

how'd they get Tank in this

the music

it sora2

[mild nacelle]

i love unprotected sex so I understand why theres so many humans running around

[sterile zealot]

european portuguese and spanish are both gay asf

[stray tiger]

Komoru didn't sound like she has a cream filled doughnut in her mouth nor is her accent lispy nonsense

I really do not like lot of Spain-ish accents though

[sterile zealot]

did u vc with her

[stray tiger]

My family is originally from Galicia and I think they sounded pretty rough when I looked them up

[crimson pagoda]

i agree, the lisp sounds ridiculous

[stray tiger]

Yeah I was on the other night with her and Maria, was gonna bug hollow but he ditched

[mild nacelle]

and why are bullfighter clothes so gay and hot

[sterile zealot]

oh i think i went to sleep before that happened

[stray tiger]

Those pants are so tight they qualify as a colonoscopy

[stray tiger]

Here #💬off-topic message

Making fun of @slim coral

[stray tiger]

Dude like what the fuck is this https://youtu.be/gV7XWdt72Vo

I've heard lispier but wtfff

@elfin scarab / @slender solstice do you have a lot of lispiness in your dialect of Portuguese? I wanna heaaaar 🥰

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot ive added so much fucking data to the authorship dataset

[undone lake]

XD

[stray tiger]

Um I wanna test another one of mine, what kind of text do you think might work?

Either to break the detection or get through

[slender solstice]

oh my god this is horrible
galician sounds awful
it's like Portuguese and Spanish had a baby that turned out retarded

[stray tiger]

Lol that's where half my family was originally from, albeit probably centuries ago

What part sounds particularly weird OOC?

[slender solstice]

the words are all Portuguese but the accent is Spanish 🤮

[sterile zealot]

himeko says its ai but idk if hes just coping

not like himeko has ever heard the voice of a girl other than his mom

[crimson pagoda]

right now I've gotta retrain in two ways before it's actually going to give more accurate scores

there are two issues

okay so

the main training is the embedding model being trained

[stray tiger]

Oh that was about a different one I think

[slender solstice]

it sounds weird because it's like someone from Northern Portugal speaking with a very thick Spanish accent
It's sounds so odd to listen

[crimson pagoda]

then i train a simple logistic regression on top of the embedding model's output to determine AI-ness

[crimson pagoda]

the first issue is that the embedding model is just not as good as I'd like it to be! this is a long process of course.

[plucky gyro]

V4 flash benchmark out now.

[stray tiger]

What did you think of the Galician, underscore? @slim coral https://youtu.be/gV7XWdt72Vo what do you think of this, how does it sound to you?

[crimson pagoda]

the other issue is that the logistic regression

[plucky gyro]

same as K2.5

[crimson pagoda]

the human side of my dataset is not great

the geometry of human-space in the dataset as the logistic regression learns it is not ideal, not representative of human writing properly

[sterile zealot]

besides some words being different, this pretty much sounds like a normal spanish speaker

interesting

[stray tiger]

Huuuuh

[plucky gyro]

can you add kimi and minimax and GLM logo to server

[stray tiger]

That's really interesting!

Galicia is the little chunk of Spain on the northern border of Portugal for everyone's reference

[slender solstice]

Portugal used to be a part of Galicia

that's how our nation was born

we got independence from them

[stray tiger]

Oh shit, Galicia fell off 😔

Wow way to lose 4/5ths of your land mass

I really should know this, my family just isn't that interested in that part of their history though

Bring back the Empire ✊ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Empire

Not a bad summary (I think...)

[slender solstice]

it's a good rundown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpaM7Klh5jE

watch this 3 minute vid too

[stray tiger]

@late ingot @crimson pagoda @sterile zealot @inland hill @vernal mantle lmaooo

[stray tiger]

heh their heads look like 🧱s

[tropic hemlock]

[stray tiger]

Ouch, roasted

also heh

[late ingot]

its fine I've played Crusader Kings

[crimson pagoda]

alright this one is pretty good hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUX0y4EptA
me when ai

[late ingot]

lol

[slender solstice]

autism map game

[crimson pagoda]

| source | authors | samples | avg chars |
|---|---:|---:|---:|
| fimfiction | 29,991 | 445,200 | 2,000 |
| **hn** | **40,175** | **272,341** | **2,324** |
| stackexchange | 41,293 | 154,218 | 2,399 |
| bluesky | 48,331 | 111,661 | 2,159 |
| open-arxiv | 51,099 | 101,650 | 2,497 |
| reddit | 50,241 | 91,747 | 2,410 |
| ea-forum-post | 3,998 | 37,801 | 2,261 |
| discord | 2,696 | 31,690 | 2,309 |
| lesswrong | 3,997 | 15,858 | 2,425 |
| **total** | **271,821** | **1,262,166** | — |

next training run is going to be killer

im psyched

[sterile zealot]

this should get you diagnosed with autism immediately

[crimson pagoda]

training dataset is now almost 3x as big as my last run

[sterile zealot]

buying any paradox game should come with a free autism certificate

[late ingot]

It's actually fascinating seeing evidence that people have gotten most of their knowledge of history/geopolitics from Paradox games

New terms that the games use start to enter the modern lexicon

[stray tiger]

Neato. I like hearing about where you're from! I don't know a ton about it. My former boss was from Andalusia Baja and would go sailing and shit, so that's probably the closest. Cool guy, I quite liked him.

He was very sympathetic when my girlfriend who pushed me to take the job and move there dropped "I'm leaving and plan to fly out tomorrow" on me but did treat her professionally when I later got her an internship after she decided to stay, though I doubt he thought much of her.

[stray tiger]

The "plz 4giv I have autism" shirt, maybe

At least a free quick screening test

[undone lake]

damn thats fast

[abstract dagger]

wait you are from portugal

oh hey elias

hru

[undone lake]

good good hbu?

[sterile zealot]

nah the test is useless, they would already be confirmed to have autism

theres no doubt to remove

[sterile zealot]

yeah she is

[stray tiger]

@slender solstice on a scale of me to these guys, how white/pale are you, if you don't mind me asking? I'm just curious given how dark my family with Galician heritage is, you don't have to answer

[sterile zealot]

portuguese are mainly white

[stray tiger]

My uncle is dark

[abstract dagger]

i have a friend. he is from portugal

he is very white

[stray tiger]

I'm ASSSSSKING mudblood

Yeah my Spanish boss was super white

[sterile zealot]

get fucking ragebaited

[stray tiger]

Lol wot

[slender solstice]

yes

[stray tiger]

Aww look at how sad he is 😔

[sterile zealot]

its always funny when you see americans who think latinos arent whites

[stray tiger]

He just wants to rule with absolute power and total impunity 😔 poor guy

[sterile zealot]

when latinos are fucking white asf

[slender solstice]

im pale
but that's because i dont go out

but some ethnically portuguese people are really dark

A friend of my dad's visited Morocco with his family and he was constantly mistaken for a local lol

[stray tiger]

Usually they aren't thinking of people from Spain given how much more common latin American mixed race people are in the US, but yeah it is kinda funny lmao

New Mexico was of course entirely Spanish at one point, so that's extremely common

Effectively everyone there who isn't a transplant is mixed race by this point, especially given that it predates the existence of the United States

[sterile zealot]

i think the median american genuinely thinks that latinos and iberians are all brown

[stray tiger]

The median American has never heard of Iberia dude lmaooo

[sterile zealot]

i know, i mean portuguese+spanish

[stray tiger]

Maybe 25% know about the ham

[slender solstice]

ham yum

[stray tiger]

I don't know if people think that, I mean when you say Hispanic they think mixed race latin American, it's more of a classification thing in that case

That's kind of one of those "fun facts" people spread around, "hey, did you know that people from Spain are actually pretty white?"

Based on that I'd say that the median American just doesn't know, and would probably guess they looked like other Spanish speakers they knew if pressed

[merry bluff]

892100

[stray tiger]

Hot damn, Moroccans can be pretty freaking dark

[merry bluff]

659925
do not share this code with anyone
it's my 2fa code

[stray tiger]

jamón 🤤

[sterile zealot]

ur brain has a tapeworm in it

its eating all of your neurons

[merry bluff]

what

[fervent basin]

@inland hill

[merry bluff]

no because then I wouldn't be able yo think about. the world

[sterile zealot]

why else would you be posting random 2fa codes

[merry bluff]

because I am 2fa

[sterile zealot]

??

[slender solstice]

Portugal is very diverse phenotypically
You can see families where some people look dark like Moroccans and then their cousins look Northern European

[mild nacelle]

lmao

[merry bluff]

green

[abstract dagger]

imagine working all day to provide for a family of 4 then dying to me

[sterile zealot]

maria has lost her meds

[stray tiger]

That family is VERRRY mixed race, so it's hard to guess where it all comes from. Did one of those ancestry.com genetic things but that's far from definitive.

Here's how dark he is, we've got Galician Spanish, Lebanese and who knows what else mixed in, but I don't think any native/mexican on that side

He needs to lose some damn weight too 😔

[crimson pagoda]

idk what it is about this pic but it reminds me of FBI most wanted posters

like some incomplete blurry pic of a guy last spotted in 2010 who the feds have been hunting for and just cant pin down hahaha

[stray tiger]

"do not accept checks from this man"

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

Asked it to create the average Redditor meetup, how’s the accuracy?

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1sugaoq/asked_it_to_create_the_average_redditor_meetup/

https://i.redd.it/wu99cnhu75xg1.jpeg
Posted by /u/mindflapper
Don't want to see more? Mods can unlink this subreddit with /reddit unlink

[crimson pagoda]

call the fucking feds

wait wtf

lmao

why did it make it esperanto

i didnt ask it to do that

oh shit wtf

wait, the DEA website supports esperanto???? i didn't even notice before i took the screenshot

this was the screenshot i gave gpt when i told it to make the new image

[granite cipher]

Chigamanalala avagahdof

Habaalao

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot @willow socket the DEA website has official support for Esperanto

[sterile zealot]

what other languages does it support

[granite cipher]

This is Bs

[crimson pagoda]

massive list

ofc it must be some kind of automatic translation

thats really funny that they added esperanto tho

[crimson pagoda]

fixed

[stray tiger]

Ommmmgffg bumny

[undone lake]

would love to put a face on this image, but can't since openai added rate limits to image gen

[stray tiger]

Oh my somehow the changes to the top of his head are deeply uncanny valley

[crimson pagoda]

how's this for uncanny

[stray tiger]

GPT always fucks up guesses at my face VERY badly

[stray tiger]

Holy fuck it's Jesse Pinkman

Jesse White is a political and social leader lol

[opal sentinel]

@stray tiger https://x.com/i/status/2047463255816147282

Marc Porter Magee 🎓 (@marcportermagee)

“the group that stands out the most is second-generation Nigerian Americans. Their educational attainment exceeds all other racial/ethnic groups, including Asian Americans”

X · Apr 23, 2026, 11:50 PM

Hnw do we stop this

How

[abstract dagger]

lol

[stray tiger]

here's GPT's attempt, effectively every single thing is very wrong @undone lake

[crimson pagoda]

the one mine generated felt less uncanny than this

it feels like it like... made your forehead too big?

your forehead doesn't look huge in this pic but something is just wrong with it and i cant easily verbalize what

[stray tiger]

I have kind of a big head, it's only slightly too big but it is on a weird angle

[crimson pagoda]

lol when i look at pics of my daughters

like

my younger daughter vs old pics of my older daughter when she was the same age

even at a glance i can tell who's who because my older daughter's head is fucking enormous

[crimson pagoda]

type shi

[crimson pagoda]

u got killer hair. good stuff

[mild nacelle]

trent will your daughters inherit trentbot

[crimson pagoda]

no. i need to have a son and he will be the heir. if, for some reason, i am unable to have a son, ill be leaving everything to the most masculine (but not ftm) daughter

[mild nacelle]

one of them could marry a son in law you really like

[crimson pagoda]

yes, im hoping one of them will marry an effeminate jewish boy who'll take our last name rather than vice versa

but i would also accept an irishman, or maybe an italian.

[mild nacelle]

thats one way to get your foot in the door to judaism

[stray tiger]

thanx you! I am desperately afraid of losing it even though that's not likely. I look WEIRD with ultra short hair and would be worse bald 🦲

This was a bit ago, hair is way past my shoulders and mostly gray (it's even dyed here), but hey can't complain

[sterile zealot]

vice versa as in them turning into an effeminate jewish boy?

based

[crimson pagoda]

no, judaism is matrilinear, it's only passed down if the mother is jewish

[stray tiger]

My hair is insanely densely packed ("paintbrush hair" per my stylist) which makes it extremely difficult to cut properly but is good for resilience

[stray tiger]

You can still raise your kids jewish though, just has to be intentional if it's only the father

[mild nacelle]

aw

[stray tiger]

Only the fanatic conservatives would have a problem with it

[crimson pagoda]

lmao raising my kids jewish so they get good finance jobs but then i accidentally go too hard and they become hasidim

[sterile zealot]

teach them german to make them slightly autistic and better at tech

[crimson pagoda]

im going even further than that by teaching them esperanto

my daughter can answer simple esperanto questions

[sterile zealot]

esperanto is evil asf

[stray tiger]

Teach them Esperanto to make them full on autistic

Nonverbal (except for in Esperanto)

[sterile zealot]

does she understand english better than esperanto or is it roughly the same

[crimson pagoda]

i ask her "kion diras la aŭto?" and she says vroom vroom beep beep

[stray tiger]

Lol I'm sure it's not even close, English just dominate like wild

[mild nacelle]

didnt you say all men who know Esperanto are creeps

[crimson pagoda]

she definitely understands english a lot better because my wife has been slacking on her esperanto studies, and so we don't converse much with each other in esperanto

[sterile zealot]

trentk only has foid kids

[stray tiger]

And/or identify as women, yes

[sterile zealot]

so it doesnt apply

[crimson pagoda]

pretty much this yeah hahahaha

[sterile zealot]

well esperanto makes it way more likely to make them trans

[stray tiger]

More and than or mebbe

[sterile zealot]

we can pray that they dont turn out like maria

[opal sentinel]

INDIANS ARE ASSIMILATING INTO AMERICAN CULTURE OH MY FOD

https://x.com/i/status/2047332205022609876

DAKKADAKKA (@DAKKADAKKA1)

Lmao Indians who came to America to steal our jobs are getting felted by fent

▶ Play video

X · Apr 23, 2026, 3:10 PM

[crimson pagoda]

u have the causality backwards. being trans makes them more likely to learn esperanto

[slender solstice]

you should have your kids learn yiddish and hebrew

[crimson pagoda]

my mom was doing esperanto hebrew for a while before she got bored of it and gave up haha

[sterile zealot]

@crimson pagoda u always say that ur too tarded for russian grammar so why dont u get ur kids to learn russian since theyll be better at it

[crimson pagoda]

ok so ive thought about this and i think what would happen would be really fucking funny (but also probably not great for them lol)

i can stumble through relatively straightforward russian conversations with lots of ummms and uhhhhs and i fuck the grammar up

if i tried teaching them russian

they would probably end up speaking it "fluently" in terms of not stumbling with umms and uhhs but they'd still have completely retarded grammar

[sterile zealot]

just immerse them into russian content

you yourself dont have to speak it

[crimson pagoda]

they'd probably sound literally like they were mentally handicapped or something hahaha

[stray tiger]

Lmao funi

[crimson pagoda]

i kinda do this, i play some old soviet cartoons for them. they love em

[sterile zealot]

get them to start watching russian shows or whatever

[crimson pagoda]

the soviet cartoons have a weird vibe

i feel like the characters are much more openly hostile than in westoid cartoons

ive also noticed that they show weird stuff that you would never see in an american cartoon

[crimson pagoda]

we were watching cheburashka one day and there was an episode where they bribe a cop or a security guard or something

[sterile zealot]

based

[crimson pagoda]

and another where they watch the orange vendor guy stealing oranges

[opal sentinel]

I heard indians from Atlanta are very different from any of the well known tech hubs

[stray tiger]

I know a tiny amount of Yiddish

[opal sentinel]

They apparently get black girls pregnant and smoke weed

[stray tiger]

Do you know much about the history of this? US cartoons sort of used to do this, like depression era ones. You know about Felix the Cat too?

[mild nacelle]

you talkin about rubber hose

[stray tiger]

I meant Fritz the Cat, but Felix was in on the hijinx

[stray tiger]

Yeah, not exclusively that super bouncy style but that era

[crimson pagoda]

alright yeah that's a fair point. but i think it's tempered a bit by the fact that this is like way older than soviet-era cartoons. at least i think it is, isn't it?

[stray tiger]

They handled death, drugs, alcohol, racially inflammatory content, etc.

[merry bluff]

I know a few Hebrew prayers

[cursive kelp]

🇺🇸🌾 US wheat prices are SURGING:

Hard red winter wheat futures rose to ~$6.90 per bushel this week, the highest level since June 2024.

They are now up +40% from the October 2025 low of ~$4.90 per bushel.

This comes as persistent drought conditions across key growing states including Kansas, Nebraska, and Colorado are threatening the new crop, with incoming rainfall expected to arrive too late to meaningfully improve conditions.

The Iran war is compounding the pressure, with the effective closure of the Strait of Hormuz driving up global fertilizer costs and pushing farmers to scale back fertilizer use or shift to less input-intensive crops.

European corn also rose for a fifth consecutive day this week, posting its biggest weekly gain in 2 months, as farmers in France, the EU's largest corn producer, consider reducing planted areas due to surging input costs.

Fertilizer availability concerns are spreading globally, with prices already beginning to rise as a result.

🔗 Global Markets Investor

[stray tiger]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1OHPWImxObOrSvG35yNiCns1sh7bzF65 @mild nacelle the infamous censored 11, my favorite is Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarves

All 30s and 40s

[mild nacelle]

good shit

[stray tiger]

@crimson pagoda fritz was from the 60s and 70s I think. It was not made for kids - brief documentary https://youtu.be/LDb5PfoaShA

[mild nacelle]

I like seeing unvarnished picture of the past

[stray tiger]

acab (all cops are bacon 🤤)

I mean this movie was no fuckin joke

[rocky basin]

what working jailbreaks are there?

[mild nacelle]

have you tried DAN?

[rocky basin]

I have not

I assumed that one was patched

[stray tiger]

@crimson pagoda @inland hill @mild nacelle @merry bluff @vernal mantle @slender solstice "I had no idea you people were so civilized" brief one minute rapid fire dialogue clip https://youtu.be/ZLV7FMVqfhc

This was the old-school version of woke white performative idiots. Text is unfamiliar but subtext is identical to the pandering, dismissive bigotry of low expectations you see today – it's really fucking funny how much things change and yet stay the same

The writer of Fritz didn't shy away from showing the world as it was with a sharp edge. @undone lake watch that, you might like it. @sterile zealot you too

@opal sentinel stop changing your name idiot

[abstract dagger]

for which model

[cursive kelp]

20th Anniversary iPhone to Feature Custom 'Micro-Curved' OLED Panel - MacRumors https://share.google/skTPfdD8L521t04NS

🤢🤢🤢

[rocky basin]

newest I had my own jail break for like 2 years but it's kinda broke recently

[inland hill]

just make better batteries dawg

[opal sentinel]

This kind of girls are so widespread all around the world

They truly are either racist or sexist but they do it in a benevolent way

[undone lake]

oohh does it have cute girls in it?

[undone lake]

[inland hill]

Trump 95 ≈ Obama 94 > Clinton 92 > Biden 87 ≈ Rubio 87 > Bush Jr. 84 > Harris 72 > Vance 61 I asked gpt 5.5 xhigh to rank politicians by political potential in them
this just means ability to win as potus regardless of whatever skills or ideas they have

[undone lake]

higher = more cult following

[inland hill]

i tend to agree with these

[undone lake]

india's finest men

[inland hill]

https://x.com/varrock/status/2047526526430642485

varrock (@varrock)

Wealthy man (low cortisol) waits calmly in his Waymo as local tribesmen frantically paint shamanic symbols on the car – like cavemen drawing on walls, convinced it will summon fortune and curse their enemies.

▶ Play video

X · Apr 24, 2026, 4:02 AM

[opal sentinel]

https://x.com/i/status/2047674181190377599

New York Post (@nypost)

Substitute teacher, 27, charged with 'improper relationship' with students https://t.co/GekfZesTzG

X · Apr 24, 2026, 1:49 PM

[stray tiger]

Bunny girls, so yea maybe your style 😁

[opal sentinel]

This 27 year old women is one of the hottest I have seen

[sterile zealot]

why is every foid which ends up doing iners mex so attractive

its crazy

[undone lake]

https://tenor.com/view/nanachi-anime-embarrassed-embarrassed-anime-mitchplay-gif-3880190141255035741

[opal sentinel]

@sterile zealot I wonder why there's such a difference

[undone lake]

I feel so bad for you

[opal sentinel]

Between male and female predators

The women look significantly hotter

[inland hill]

https://x.com/polymarket/status/2047713161160118355?s=46&t=egZEEcqbdrUnEs6OqK_CHQ

Polymarket (@Polymarket)

JUST IN: Trump administration reportedly freezes $344 million in cryptocurrency linked to Iran.

X · Apr 24, 2026, 4:23 PM

[undone lake]

if you find her attractive idk what to tell you

[inland hill]

[sterile zealot]

what are you smoking

shes easily a 9/10

[undone lake]

maybe dutch girls aren't ugly after all

[undone lake]

asians aren't my tupe

[sterile zealot]

ur brain has worms in it

[undone lake]

idk, their noses look weird

[sterile zealot]

she doesnt even look asian

[undone lake]

"she doesnt even look asian"

[sterile zealot]

how is this asian looking

[undone lake]

single eyelid, thin eyebrows and hair, nose, overal face shape

that's an asian woman who dyed her hair blonde and is wearing blue contact lenses

[sterile zealot]

well shes super hot, idk what to tell you

[undone lake]

whatever floats your boat

I'm not really interested in flesh foids, but if I had to choose I wouldn't pick a south-east asian

[sterile zealot]

im exclusively interested in flesh foids

[inland hill]

https://tenor.com/view/gatto-cibo-cat-bread-hungry-cat-gif-15925702

[undone lake]

we will talk 10 years from now after you get mounted by a humanoid AGI powered baddie

[stray tiger]

My favorite flesh foid ❤️

[undone lake]

please don't do the cat

[sterile zealot]

👎

[stray tiger]

Lol they aren't, they're the ones that get reported on

[sterile zealot]

a

[undone lake]

marquis is cat girl coded like me

[opal sentinel]

That sounds like what a rapist would say underscore

[undone lake]

@gritty grail

[stray tiger]

You know exactly why the news aggressively reports on attractive female predators

[sterile zealot]

because of horny men?

that is axiomatic

[undone lake]

haha horndogs

[undone lake]

cats are so random lmao

you know what gpt 5.5 is actually good at? world building

when giving it a concept it really comes up with interesting stuff

[stray tiger]

They make it look like what's frankly a "forbidden fruit" fantasy for a lot of people, including me throughout my school years, of just a boundary violating, borderline legal relationship is the norm, when the norm is all over the place.

Even some of the fairly attractive women are coercing the kids with drugs or alcohol, enmeshing their school/work and irl relationship, etc. Like the women aren't just in the "this is technical illegal, but the relationship is real" territory, but specifically have this intense neediness, are often cheating on their spouses with the virile young guys they have access to, etc. They're actual predators, not victims of an unfortunate age gap

That's why my cat poops in your house

[undone lake]

rekt

patriot

thank you for your service!

[stray tiger]

The New American Dream 🦅

Hormuz originally, earnings calls too. Not sure

That is a little surprising actually, not sure

[opal sentinel]

During the Burma campaign in WW2, British officers noted that Japanese soldiers were extremely terrified of Africans, and on a few occasions, Japanese soldiers fled in terror or quickly surrendered to them whenever they encountered African troops, for fear that their corpses would be eaten by Africans if they were killed in combat.
Some British officers further perpetuated the cannibalism rumors by having African soldiers butcher & meat next to Japanese prisoners of war . Some British officers went as far as ordering his Ugandan soldiers dismember a dead Japanese soldier, put the pieces into a boiling pot, while dancing around the fire, to stage a supposed cannibal ritual, while Japanese scouts watched from a distance

[stray tiger]

Meta probably is seeing a spike since they said they were firing 10% of their workforce

Oh I mean that's not that sharp of a rise, notably more than normal dailies. Rising tide

[sterile zealot]

@slender solstice @elfin scarab https://youtu.be/izquEYtqXZo?si=MMZvy2-jQ-rz4aOZ

[stray tiger]

I mean there was a hefty correction in the other direction some time ago

Oh, that's good. I mean remember that all tech stocks got hit a while back? Overcorrected

? Did you short them?

I mean tech stocks probably are all overvalued. Oh okay

[inland hill]

chad detected

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

that is fine

[stray tiger]

Yeah I have way too much in tech, I truly think they're fundamentally overvalued, almost indisputably

[loud girder]

@pine patrol has started a game of rock-paper-scissors! Tap the button below to play against them.

[stray tiger]

Buttt the market has this persistently and weirdly high valuation for them, so whatever 🫥

Dayum

[opal sentinel]

@stray tiger https://x.com/zagrebbi
I can't believe it, this is a azerbaijani race scientist

Werner Zagrebbi🇦🇿 (@zagrebbi) on X

Militant radical Marginalism | CMU

X

[stray tiger]

Lol I thought you were done with watches son 👀

[opal sentinel]

@elfin scarab

[inland hill]

idc i bought rhm round 1320 today lmao

ahah

eh

[stray tiger]

Lol that's such normal variation I don't know why you panicked

[inland hill]

idc much

i set and forget defense

usual defense ahh

[stray tiger]

O. Eh it happens

[inland hill]

even if u had no american citizenships i would immediately give u one

[stray tiger]

I mean I cry over my 30 btc from back in the day, I think that's fair but that's about it

Yeah same

[inland hill]

og era

no snort

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-lol-gif-20542436

[stray tiger]

I don't think I ever tried 2-CB amazingly

How was it?

I tried one of the NBOMes and it kinda sucked

[slim coral]

Weird language. Outlaw it

[inland hill]

bro is the typa guy who takes dragonfly

[stray tiger]

Lol what's that

[inland hill]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromo-DragonFLY

[stray tiger]

Ohhh

[inland hill]

brainrot

[stray tiger]

Yeah I've heard of that

Christ that duration 🤢

Fuck no man, acid is long enough

[inland hill]

Vasoconstrictive action resulting from severe overdose of Bromo-DragonFLY is known to have caused tissue necrosis of the extremities in at least one case. In September 2007, a 35-year-old Swedish male required amputation of the front part of his feet and several fingers on one hand after taking a massive (but unknown) overdose; reportedly, the compound acted as a long-acting efficacious vasoconstrictor, leading to necrosis and gangrene which became apparent several weeks after the overdose occurred. Treatment was of limited efficacy in this case, although tolazoline is reportedly an effective treatment where available.[19][20]

Overdose-associated disturbing experiences and health problems have been described. One case in 2008 in England involved inhalation of vomit, causing nearly fatal asphyxia.[21] Seizures have also been reported.[22]

On October 3, 2009, a 22-year-old male from Copenhagen died after ingesting Bromo-DragonFLY. His friend described the trip saying, "It was like being dragged to hell and back again. Many times. It is the most evil [thing] I've ever tried. It lasted an eternity."[23]

On May 7, 2011, in the United States, two young adults died after overdosing on Bromo-DragonFLY, which they thought was 2C-E, and several others were hospitalized during the same incident. Because they took a dosage appropriate for 2C-E, those who took the drug received, in some cases, 100 times the normal dose. Both deaths followed seizures, vomiting blood, and terrifying hallucinations

[stray tiger]

Oddly enough I just remember that as Bromo-DOB or Br-DOB

[inland hill]

2-cb-fly is not dangerous (no advice)

[abstract dagger]

general opinion of stocks is that if it doubles you should instantly cash out no matter what

[inland hill]

https://tenor.com/view/ultimate-maga-mega-maga-maga-trump-the-king-mr-president-gif-11500177901277447244

buy low sell high

[stray tiger]

@surreal siren funni https://youtu.be/DY-KqtFQRZc

Jump to the middle to see what the central conceit of this is

[cursive kelp]

🔴Reuters: Washington is considering reviewing its position on Britain's claim to sovereignty over the Falkland Islands.

@WarSaWitness

[abstract dagger]

@late ingot @stray tiger @crimson pagoda @slender solstice what do you all think of the scientists researching zero point energy?

[opal sentinel]

@stray tiger two teens in Florida are facing 15 years in prison for making a joke on telegram calling for big yahi(Benjamin Netanyahu) to drop "booms" on their school

[abstract dagger]

wow

if they are facing it, why not just turn away?

[slim coral]

MEDO

MUITO MEDO

EU TENHO MEDO

[opal sentinel]

@abstract dagger as an indian man would I be safe near you

Would you attack and kill me

[abstract dagger]

it depends

would i be safe near you

[opal sentinel]

No

I would try to defend myself before you attack

[abstract dagger]

i would not attack an indian person for no reason

i like indian people

[stray tiger]

Wow GPT 5.5 is fucking based

[abstract dagger]

LMAO

do not fuck the student.

[stray tiger]

How many are there? I'd put money unto physics or plasma fusion instead ig

[abstract dagger]

all recent

[late ingot]

Source?

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

Asked it to create the average Redditor meetup, how’s the accuracy?

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1sugaoq/asked_it_to_create_the_average_redditor_meetup/

https://i.redd.it/wu99cnhu75xg1.jpeg
Posted by /u/mindflapper
Don't want to see more? Mods can unlink this subreddit with /reddit unlink

[stray tiger]

Not familiar, yeah I'd want a source too lol

[abstract dagger]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/scientists-missing-dead-fbi-investigation-b2963785.html&ved=2ahUKEwj_2f_Y_4aUAxVQX0EAHWuYPdIQxfQBKAB6BAgQEAE&usg=AOvVaw2iNqfhZVrFp2R3ScZlRqIh

[opal sentinel]

What about a 19 year old teen

[sterile zealot]

they made gpt less german, lets fucking go

[abstract dagger]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyw9rpdl4po

theres quite a few articles on it

[stray tiger]

The head of the PSFC getting murdered was a big deal

[late ingot]

Boeing probably killed them

[abstract dagger]

probably

[opal sentinel]

How sure are you ols

[abstract dagger]

my guess would be oil companies

[opal sentinel]

I am not much of a conspiracy theories

Theorist

But why do you think boeing killed them

[late ingot]

Is 12 in the last four years really a significant number

[opal sentinel]

I know they want to

[abstract dagger]

for example we have electric cars but what do electric cars run on

[opal sentinel]

But how exactly does boeing pull this off

[abstract dagger]

electric

which is powered by

oil

which is why they dont shoot elon

[late ingot]

Boeing are omnicidal maniacs and will not stop until everyone disappears or dies in a plane crash

[stray tiger]

I mean dude, you have no clue how many people are actively working in these fields, it's absolutely massive

[abstract dagger]

i cant even imagine but it must be a lot

considering how much money is in it

[stray tiger]

The US DOE and National Lab employee base alone is massive

Not to count all the academic researchers, private company researchers

[abstract dagger]

some of the scientists were warning of their lives being at risk before dying

[late ingot]

I think also a researcher doing a stressful, isolating job may be at higher risk of suicide, particularly suicides where their bodies are not found

[stray tiger]

There are more fusion and small modular reactor or microreactor startups than ever before

[late ingot]

Like jumping off a bridge or driving out into the wilderness to unalive

[stray tiger]

Some of them were stalked and killed by personal enemies, so that tracks

[abstract dagger]

could be

[stray tiger]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mit-professor-nuno-loureiro-brilliant-scientist-murder-search-killer/

[late ingot]

But 13 in four years doesn't seem like a significant number to me

[abstract dagger]

its definitely shocking

still

hopefully they wont kill us for talking about it

[late ingot]

His daughter Julia Hicks told CNN that her father had struggled with “known medical issues” and said she did not understand the connection between her dad’s death and the other missing scientists. She added that neither elected officials nor federal agencies had contacted her about her father’s death as of Tuesday.

[abstract dagger]

i think ill stop discussijg it for now just in case

see you all later

[stray tiger]

Sorry, better article https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/shooter-who-killed-mit-professor-and-brown-students-planned-attack-for-months-doj-says

It's not that shocking

This guy was killed by someone he went to school with in OHHHH @slender solstice this is a Portuguese national and so was his killer, I studied this case in some detail

[late ingot]

McCasland is one of four scientists who disappeared from New Mexico in the past year.

The 68-year-old lived in the Albuquerque foothills and left home with a .38-caliber revolver in a leather holster, his hiking boots and a wallet, leaving his phone and glasses behind.

he went to go shoot himself in the woods

[stray tiger]

Why aren't they killing the hundreds of thousands of other researchers is the real question

Most of whom are in the exact same line of work, in the same labs, working on the exact same material

Not similar, like this one guy could have made an independent breakthrough, the exact same

None of this science is done by one guy, you need continuously flowing resources to do it

[stray tiger]

It's all documented digitally, he didn't write it down on paper

[late ingot]

Chavez, 79, has been missing since early May, 2025, with a friend calling his disappearance “extremely unusual.” Chavez retired from the lab in 2017, where he worked as a foreman supervising construction at the site, according to CNN. A detective told the network that there were no indications of foul play, but also no signs that he was planning to leave.

“His car was locked and parked in his driveway. His wallet, car keys and personal items were in his home, so it appears that he left his home with the intention of not being gone for more than a few minutes,” Carl Buckland, who described Chavez as his “best friend,” wrote in a Facebook post last year. “His disappearance is extremely unusual.”

He was 79 though, and we don't have any clear indications of whether he experienced memory loss or disorientation

[stray tiger]

You start seeing labs or data centers evaporating, like that weird South Korean case where they somehow had no backup...

Yeah, that is more than suspect

[coral bane]

@stray tiger Should all obscene words be legal

[stray tiger]

It's more irrational to say there wasn't foul play

[stray tiger]

Of course, what word would be "illegal"? How tf do you even enforce that

[late ingot]

I didn't realise just how many data centres, once built, can't actually be brought online due to insufficient energy supply

[coral bane]

Going in public and screaming extremely obscene sexual terms

[stray tiger]

Disorderly conduct, I mean that's fine to enforce

[late ingot]

Or have to be delayed or cancelled midway through the project, again largely because they can't fulfil the projected energy demand

[stray tiger]

You don't get to inflict your annoying self on absolutely everyone at any time

[coral bane]

What about approaching random people and telling them obscene stuff

[stray tiger]

Case by case

[coral bane]

Elaborate

[late ingot]

In the UK its when the language is causing "alarm and distress", the language itself isn't the problem

[stray tiger]

I would use a soft touch in enforcement

[late ingot]

Like if you go up to parents with their young children and start swearing and making obscene statements, that's alarm and distress

[stray tiger]

Similar general standard

[late ingot]

But if it was 11pm and you were outside a bar with your mates saying the same, it would not be alarm and distress

[coral bane]

The UK has more arrests for words online than any other country. Including Russia.

[late ingot]

According to whom?

[stray tiger]

Word isn't illegal, you don't have the right to harass people limitlessly tho

[late ingot]

It's not generally "words online"

[cursive kelp]

🇺🇸🕊🇪🇷 — The US has informed other countries that it will begin lifting some sanctions on Eritrea in an effort to restore high-level diplomatic relations and potentially "reset US-Eritrea ties", says Wall Street Journal

➡️ A senior Trump administration official, Massad Boulos, has told foreign counterparts that the U.S. aims to begin lifting some sanctions on Eritrea, a small African country with more than 700 miles of Red Sea coastline, according to current and former officials familiar with the matter.

➡️ It is part of an effort by the U.S. administration to restore higher-level diplomatic relations with the country for the first time in decades.

➡️ Other officials said the plan to normalize ties with Eritrea and lift sanctions on the country is undergoing review and hasn’t yet been finalized.

@BellumActaNews

[late ingot]

It's persistent harassment that gets people arrested

People just tell lies about what they were really charged with

[stray tiger]

Huh, that sounds good I guess. I feel like it's usually a good thing to ease sanctions and normalize relations when possible

[pine patrol]

why do you act like a news bot

[coral bane]

https://x.com/BasilTheGreat/status/2009907467707396554

Basil the Great (@BasilTheGreat)

The UK has the highest arrests for social media comments in the world

This is not a free country 🇬🇧

X · Jan 10, 2026, 8:37 AM

[late ingot]

Easy to spin the lie if the formal charge is "sending a threatening communication" and they present what they actually said out of context to make it look less bad

[late ingot]

Source for this?

[coral bane]

Actually W Trump for this

[sterile zealot]

random xitter post duh

[undone lake]

shouldn't be antiseptic

[abstract dagger]

this seems true

the uk at least

social media rulings are common

[late ingot]

Do you know anyone who was actually arrested for "online comments" who didn't turn out to be harassing someone or being a nonce?

I don't

[coral bane]

UK: https://pa.media/blogs/fact-check/fact-check-international-data-on-online-comments-arrests-not-comparable/#bdEqK
Germany: https://youtu.be/-bMzFDpfDwc?si=ukiYgWFLX5BPGcSJ&t=330
China: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3259183/chinese-police-arrest-over-1500-online-rumours-campaign-targeting-influencers-bloggers-and-live
Russia: https://inclo.net/members/agora/

[stray tiger]

I don't know why he put Cuba back on the SST list. You don't have to completely normalize relations but that's quite a high bar

Party pressure I think. Really a shame

I doubt he personally cares

[late ingot]

The first one refutes the post you cited

[undone lake]

b-but if I want to threaten someone online then the government shouldn't try and silence me. it's called free speech libtards, deal with i- ACK!

[stray tiger]

I think most people here do, but FYI almost no Americans are familiar with the term nonce, PDF is probably better recognized amazingly enough

[coral bane]

Not all police forces responded to its requests, so the real figure is likely higher.

[late ingot]

No, like what the numbers really are

Those are arrests for harassment

(1)Any person who sends to another person—

(a)a [F1letter, electronic communication or article of any description] which conveys—

(i)a message which is indecent or grossly offensive;

F2(ii). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

F3(iii). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(b)any [F4article or electronic communication] which is, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature,

is guilty of an offence if his purpose, or one of his purposes, in sending it is that it should, so far as falling within paragraph (a) or (b) above, cause distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends that it or its contents or nature should be communicated.

It's a crime when you target a specific person with the intention of causing them distress

[coral bane]

Interesting. So the number is understated.

[late ingot]

The number is overstated

[stray tiger]

Idk about the UK thing, I don't love speech restrictions in general of course. But I also do not believe those China numbers for a single second lmao

Come on

[late ingot]

Because it refers to malicious communications of any kind (including offline) and communications that were sent via private messages

[coral bane]

Me neither

[late ingot]

And only in situations that constituted harassment

[coral bane]

Public insults in the Republic of China should be legal

[stray tiger]

Okay lol, yeah I hoped not

I don't know about Russia, they might be a bit busy. Iran killed more of its own people for free speech than appear in most of these figures of course 💀

“~100“

[abstract dagger]

to be fair

[stray tiger]

What fucking assholes

[abstract dagger]

this woman im going on a date with had the police called in her for online trolling

[late ingot]

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a)sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or

(b)causes any such message or matter to be so sent.

(2)A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another, he—

[F1(a)sends by means of a public electronic communications network, a message that he knows to be false,]

[F1(b)causes such a message to be sent; or]

(c)persistently makes use of a public electronic communications network.

(3)A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both.

The other is a summary offence (basically a misdemeanour, one usually resulting in a fine) for knowingly spreading disinformation online, with the state needing to establish that there was an intent to deceive

[fervent basin]

what's trump done with cannabis lol

he's done something

[stray tiger]

I swear I am the only person on earth that isn't an Iranian or expat that legitimately cares about how horrific their regime is

I am fine with higher gas prices to take them down, they're monsters to their own people and internationally

[coral bane]

Russia doesn't do this shit only Belarus does

[late ingot]

You wont be fine with it when the fertiliser shortfall causes the cost of animal feed to rise which causes the price of eggs to rise

[stray tiger]

And it's depressing the world community, even their neighbors don't help crush their nauseating behavior into dust

[stray tiger]

I won't be happy, but I am fine with it

I truly detest them

[late ingot]

That's a strong way to feel about eggs

[stray tiger]

They deserve so much worse

[coral bane]

Ols should hate speech be legal in the UK

[stray tiger]

Yeah, this was really cool. Though I'm actually really unhappy with legalization in practice, it's so poorly regulated now

[late ingot]

Define "hate speech"

[stray tiger]

He signed an EO loosening federal restrictions which were fairly absolute, if shakily enforced

[late ingot]

Saying something hateful isn't the issue, its who you say it to and why

[stray tiger]

Lol my US answer is just "yes"

[late ingot]

It already is though

[coral bane]

Insults, verbal harassment, bullying, hatred, whatever else

[late ingot]

Its not the speech itself, but what speech is being used to do

[stray tiger]

Yeah I know but most young people want to legally restrict it

[coral bane]

He means in the UK

[late ingot]

Like if you say "fuck off asshole" to a cop or judge, that's bad not because of the words themselves but who you said them to and in what context

[stray tiger]

That's not hate speech lol, those are different categories

[fervent basin]

lol

[coral bane]

They all are part of hate speech

[stray tiger]

100% legal

[coral bane]

It should be legal in all contexts

[late ingot]

I think people grow out of that attitude and we have sufficient controls to stop such draconian stuff passing into law

[crimson pagoda]

if they find it cool. but like, they're also probably not gonna lol. if you want something cool to look up in the energy sector look up Quaise Energy. they're using millimeter-wave energy from gyrotrons to vaporize rock rather than mechanically grind it, with the hopes that this will take them further underground than traditional drilling methods. once you've dug deep enough you basically get infinite free geothermal energy. the amount of heat deep underground is insane, many orders of magnitude higher than all human electrical consumption

[stray tiger]

Indisputably and litigated by the Supreme Court specifically, in the US

[late ingot]

You do get populists saying "we should criminalise misogyny" but there's no effective and proportionate way to even try

[stray tiger]

Idk man, it's a generational trend

[stray tiger]

Not in US law

Nor in any country's law I'm aware of

[late ingot]

Yeah as Marquis said, that's not hate speech, that's in fact what UK law targets instead

[coral bane]

Do you think the UK should get freedom of speech

[crimson pagoda]

this is honestly much tamer than some of the Loony Toons stuff haha. there was one ep i was playing on my tv where they had a chinese guy in a cage like a zoo animal

[stray tiger]

Hate speech in the US is specifically speech that's discriminatory or abusive to a protected class. It can be used to escalate another crime to a hate crime

[late ingot]

You have a certain degree of freedom from speech, in that you can reasonably tell someone to stop talking to you in particular, at least about distressing topics

[stray tiger]

Lmao

[coral bane]

The UK only has fake freedom of speech

[crimson pagoda]

japanese soldier as depicted in Bugs Bunny

[pine patrol]

what's that?

[stray tiger]

Look they kinda had it coming tho

[crimson pagoda]

hahaha yeah the japs maybe

[late ingot]

Like if a reddit atheist kept going up to people outside a church every week and telling them god isn't real, they're delusional, etc. and wouldn't leave them alone no matter how many times he was asked, that would be harassment rather than an issue with his speech

[coral bane]

That should be legal

[late ingot]

Source?

[crimson pagoda]

v2ray was so right. china >>>>>>>>>> japan

[coral bane]

It's an opinion nigga 💀

[coral bane]

China 🇹🇼 > Japan 🇯🇵

[late ingot]

It shouldn't be, people have a right to be left alone and not have someone hassling them non stop when they just want to live their life

[late ingot]

Opinion based on what though?

[stray tiger]

US you can generally do that on public property as long as you don't impair anyone from getting in or out or their freedom of movement, I'm not sure though. May be other restrictions

Intimidation on the basis of religion runs afoot of protected class and similar, not sure

[coral bane]

This is going to be long

[late ingot]

I think the principle that's emerged over time is that you can't make it impossible to avoid you when someone wants to get somewhere

[stray tiger]

The WBC got away with a shocking amount though

I think you can do that in the US as long as you're not targeting individuals

I'm not sure about picketing a single place that's part of a protected category or class, seems shaky

New churches each week would be totally legit

[late ingot]

It's going to be more disinfo, isn't it?

[stray tiger]

@crimson pagoda use to train a disinfo fine tune 😎

[late ingot]

With regards to public property, it again comes down to not denying people access in/out or obstructing ordinary work

[stray tiger]

That's always been illegal afaik

The abortion protesters really walk up to that line, I think they only get away with it in states choosing not to enforce

In the US that is

[late ingot]

Because of how the outside of Parliament is laid out, protestors tend to end up on the green on the opposite side of the road

Which is a narrow road, not some massive thing

Because otherwise they would be obstructing the pavement and vehicle access

[stray tiger]

Lol that sounds fun, picnic n protest parliament

I'd be game, I'd probably just drink some prosecco and watch the fireworks though

Too much effort to protest

[late ingot]

At Downing Street protestors can come right up to the gates but are required to move aside for vehicles

And can't rush into the secure area

[stray tiger]

Lol no shit

That sounds like an express trip in the paddy wagon

And I do mean the place to store The Irish ™️

[late ingot]

Same applies to civil service buildings, a person is considered a security threat if they try to physically grab or stop staff from entering

[stray tiger]

Yeah that's battery

In both cases

[late ingot]

The Metropolitan Police sometimes get it wrong but I think in general things are handled very well

[stray tiger]

Some forms of stopping might just be assault, that's shaky

[late ingot]

Like outside Buckingham Palace we have guards on horses that are well trained to kick or bite Americans who get too close

[stray tiger]

It's easier to handle things in those "known" locations

[stray tiger]

What if @vernal mantle tries to pet the hock

[crimson pagoda]

@vocal bay @stray tiger alex jones is crashing out hard over infowars again lmao. he's accusing tim heidecker of being pro child sacrifice because he made a skit about a company that has child clowns you can hire for birthday parties

[late ingot]

I'm not sure CPS would prosecute it as "assault" if someone grabbed clothing or just stood in the way

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[late ingot]

There'd be a risk of acquittal if they couldn't prove bodily contact

[stray tiger]

Oof I mean it is, you can choose to. Yeah, probably not though. Clothing is generally unambiguous

[sterile zealot]

@stray tiger https://youtu.be/axo74sLK6fo?si=V9thLj1LNIBIWh0E great video

[cursive kelp]

The only thing I bot is in your mom. Multiplication

[stray tiger]

What constitutes physically blocking is a bit shaky

[sterile zealot]

i think maria may have been very influenced by this sort of shit

[stray tiger]

I just watched it lmao

[sterile zealot]

no way

[stray tiger]

I almost shared it here

[crimson pagoda]

did i ever show you my analysis of the boykisser discord server w/ oai's toolkit, after a full server dump leaked on KF

it was, uh, not good, to put it lightly

[sterile zealot]

you didnt

[crimson pagoda]

lemme see if i can find it again

[late ingot]

I suspect there are charges like "obstructing a public highway" that are more proportionate, easier to prove, and make it harder for the person in question to twist the narrative

[coral bane]

The slippery slope argument

The moment you allow the state to ban offensive or hateful speech, you've given the people in political power the option to ban offensive or hateful speech, you give them the choice to distinguish legal from illegal opinions and that line will always be political and it will always shift, if they ban one thing now they might ban another. Sweden recently banned blasphemy, where are we, in the 1600s?

Freedom of thought argument

If you prohibit people talking, then you also prohibit thinking. In my opinion, we have to look at all and every options in order to get the world to move forward correctly. If humanity deems one idea to be unsuccessful, then there surely won't be any damage in letting people think about them. Besides, banning them doesn't actually make the opinions disappear, they make the counterarguments disappear. The answer to a terrible opinion should be argumentative and not legal.

Historical argument

Speech restrictions were never used against the powerful, journalists and activisits have all been the offensive and hateful people at their time. The only reliable way to prevent this from happening again is to protect everyone's right to speech, not just some peoples'.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
- Voltaire

[late ingot]

because a lot of disruptive protestors lie about what they were charged with and the circumstances of their arrest

[stray tiger]

I knew about this well, I just put it on in the bg

[late ingot]

If the rebuttal is just "you were sitting in the middle of a road that important vehicles need to use" along with photographs of that fact it's much harder for them to spin the "UK criminalises protest" lie

[late ingot]

I don't care what an AI wrote bro

[sterile zealot]

he wrote it himself

its not ai

[stray tiger]

Yeah it looked handwritten, I was gonna say

[coral bane]

I wrote the entire thing myself

[fervent basin]

why didn't they just wait a short while

[late ingot]

did you just out yourself as an AI

[fervent basin]

until ipv8 could be realised

[coral bane]

Just answer tf

[stray tiger]

Strong agree

[late ingot]

You didn't answer my question at all

I'm asking you what you're basing the opinion "The UK only has fake freedom of speech" on

[stray tiger]

Inshallah

[coral bane]

https://klipy.com/gifs/meme-8136--k01KQ0AFHAX3AF6YV6SJG5VHPQQ

[late ingot]

Not vague views about the value of freedom of speech

[opal sentinel]

The anglo saxons have been extinct for hundreds of years

[cursive kelp]

https://youtu.be/ST3bXjUur9s?si=AZUJJF6QfRYinLHq

[crimson pagoda]

couldve sworn i had a more detailed analysis somewhere but maybe im just remembering wrong

[coral bane]

I literally wrote a fucking essay about how the European model of freedom of speech is not legitimate

[fervent basin]

wouldn't r.n.r.n.r.n.rn make more sense

to expand each

you construct the ipv4 by taking all the r i guess

[crimson pagoda]

🤷‍♂️ guess u could do it either way. there's overlap between the two categories anyway

[fervent basin]

ye but it's designed to be hierarchical

[crimson pagoda]

oh wait i thought u were replying to something else

nvm

im dumb

[stray tiger]

It doesn't really address the central conceit, you'd have to comment on the specific restrictions the UK has and how they are individually deeply problematic. There are and have always been more than zero restrictions, even in like revolutionary America

[fervent basin]

so it wouldn't be compatible with existing networks otherwise

[crimson pagoda]

anyway regarding these comments: this is from a server that was explicitly said to be child-friendly

[stray tiger]

And that's when organizing with the express purpose of overthrowing the federal government was umsmbiguously legal

[late ingot]

Which had no relevance to my question

[fervent basin]

i was lol

[late ingot]

You can write essays about whatever you want but I asked you a question about something else

[coral bane]

The case of Chaplinsky shows how retarded freedom of speech in the US used to be

[loud girder]

User Info

Here's some information about @pine patrol, requested by @pine patrol.

[stray tiger]

I think they tightened restrictions a lil during bacon's rebellion or something

[stray tiger]

Not familiar

Or if I am not by name

[coral bane]

It actually completely addresses it, I've countered the legitimacy of freedom of speech in the UK

[coral bane]

Search it up

[stray tiger]

Retarded good? Bad? Just strong?

😮‍💨

[coral bane]

Bad

[late ingot]

Makes me wonder sometimes how much loyalists felt they had freedom to express their views during the revolutionary war and its immediate aftermath

I've seen historians estimating it was probably roughly 50/50 in terms of support/opposition to independence

[stray tiger]

They did not, though we didn't slaughter them or anything, just sent them packing

[late ingot]

I think most just self-censored

[stray tiger]

Yes, it was definitely not agreed on my vote

[late ingot]

And succumbed to a sort of resignation about what took place

[stray tiger]

Well, a lot didn't "care" in the way most people don't, they had their lives to worry about

[late ingot]

idk how many moved to Canada overall

[stray tiger]

They wanted stability more than anything

And being a subject of THE empire is not a bad deal

[late ingot]

The Jay Treaty and certain other Anglo-American treaties up to 1812 probably went some way to alleviate their concerns

[stray tiger]

Passionate? I mean idk

[coral bane]

Ols should vote Reform

[stray tiger]

Also remember the French saved our asses, what loyalist is okay with that shit?!

Even if you kinda like the UK, being beholden to the French is satanic

[late ingot]

I think they probably considered themselves "English" and felt like "American" was a secondary identity, or even something artificial

[coral bane]

Ols is an aspie

[stray tiger]

Yeah, America was an experiment and frankly it didn't really exist

I don't know if identity is going to be the concern over tangible probs for most though either way

Like they would see zero reason to divorce from the military and economic hegemon

[late ingot]

I think its more like apathy to American identity than passion for English identity

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[late ingot]

I think if you went on a colony ship to Mars with thousands of other people and people started calling themselves "Martians", you'd understand that label is meant to include you but might not identify more with it than with your Earth nation of origin

[coral bane]

?summarize

[coral bane]

?define apathy

[stray tiger]

I guess, just seems a little too abstract to be a meaningful motivator. Like if the UK started executing people in the streets totally arbitrarily, they'd stop being "subjects" right quick

[coral bane]

how tf are you gonna define an emotion

[abstract dagger]

i forgot voicemail exists

i keep missing calls from my accountant 😭😭

[stray tiger]

Oh, you just had to say the "fighting words" case

Yeah that's a very shaky standard

[late ingot]

Well I don't think anyone would accept the term "subject" beyond the most technical, legalistic sense

[stray tiger]

Same with the anti ww1 pamphlet case

[late ingot]

It only really matters for some old, unenforced laws like for treason

Because you can commit treason if you are a subject but not a citizen

[stray tiger]

Eh sure, whatever

I mean that's not really my point

I don't know how much we can infer their motivations at the time, formal writing is often more high minded than reality

[elfin scarab]

my account is back

[crimson pagoda]

reject modernity ( @slender solstice ) RETVRN to tradition ( @elfin scarab )

[stray tiger]

I just tend to suspect that the deeper and abstract thoughts on identity mean less when the rubber hits the road for most who want a good, stableish future

[late ingot]

"Subject" was valuable in law when the UK had a lot of protectorates with separate citizenship

[coral bane]

My legs are ultra shaky

[crimson pagoda]

why the fuck would you ever press the blue button

[coral bane]

You mean the red button

[crimson pagoda]

there's no downside to pressing red

it's like a simplified prisoner's dilemma but there's no downside for everyone choosing to defect

[coral bane]

It is, you are gambling with the lives of the sick, babies, elderly, etc

They are realistically gonna click something random

[crimson pagoda]

no, they're gambling with their own lives by pressing blue. 0 risk by pressing red

[coral bane]

They don't actually understand what the buttons do..

If we all agree to vote blue then everybody survives

[crimson pagoda]

im gonna add a little corollary to this then because you can come up with infinity " ☝️ 🤓 uhm akshually here's an edge case that breaks the basic logic..." addons. the only people who this affects are people who are of sound mind, capable of seeing and understanding what each button is and what the effect will be of pressing it

what ur doing is like doing prisoner's dilemma and going "wtf what if one guy is blind and another guy's in a wheelchair and he's also gay and the guard is deaf"

[opal sentinel]

@coral bane I'm sorry

[fervent basin]

i would press the red button

[coral bane]

I would press the red button because not everybody cares about others. In a perfect world I would choose blue.

[fervent basin]

it doesn't say what happens if you press blue but it ends up under 50%

[coral bane]

It does

only people that picked red survive

[fervent basin]

oh it does

[opal sentinel]

My genetic makeup is 20% Steppe pastoralists, 40% early iranian farmers/hunter gatherers, 20% ancestral south asian hunter gatherers and 20% sino tibetian

[fervent basin]

https://tenor.com/view/red-color-favorite-color-simon-pryce-red-wiggle-gif-15016424

[coral bane]

50% of the babies would disappear though

[crimson pagoda]

#💬off-topic message

[undone lake]

@hollow take that

[coral bane]

1. i dont know the prisoner dilemma
2. then i would pick red

[fervent basin]

erm

[crimson pagoda]

it's an exercise in game theory, it's not about litigating the exact implementation of the button in the way you'd have to work out edge cases in the real world

anyway, the prisoner's dilemma is similar to this but with a punishment for double-defection

you and another prisoner are in separate rooms being questioned

if neither of you snitch, you both get off scot-free

[coral bane]

ah yes

i know it

nvm

[crimson pagoda]

if one of you snitches but the other doesn't, the one who kept his mouth shut gets 10 years in prison

[coral bane]

i know it

[crimson pagoda]

yeah

[coral bane]

i wouldnt snitch in that

[crimson pagoda]

i for sure would lmao

immediately

im snitching instantly

[coral bane]

why

[crimson pagoda]

risk aversion. you either get 0 years or 5 years in the way ive typically heard it worded, whereas if you choose to stay silent you either get 0 years or 10 years

[coral bane]

the way i hear it is if both snitch that both get 7 years

[crimson pagoda]

trentbot what is the typical outcome matrix of the prisoner's dilemma

[loud girder]

The Prisoner's Dilemma outcome matrix typically looks like this:

	Player B: Cooperate	Player B: Defect
Player A: Cooperate	Both get moderate reward (3, 3)	A gets punished (0, 5)
Player A: Defect	A gets reward (5, 0)	Both get bad outcome (1, 1)

Key outcomes:

• Mutual Cooperation (3, 3): Both players do well, but not optimally
• Mutual Defection (1, 1): Both players do poorly – the "bad" equilibrium
• One Defects, One Cooperates: The defector gets the best outcome (5), the cooperator gets the worst (0)

The dilemma:
Rational self-interest leads each player to defect (since defecting is always better than cooperating regardless of what the other does), but when both defect, they end up worse off than if they'd both cooperated. It's a classic example of how individual rationality doesn't lead to the best collective outcome.

The numbers can vary depending on the specific version, but the structure stays the same: mutual cooperation beats mutual defection, but defection always beats cooperation from an individual perspective.

[coral bane]

those numbers are retarded

[coral bane]

huh what lol

[crimson pagoda]

i wish discord displayed markdown tables properly

[coral bane]

SAME

and images with

ah

[fiery mesa]

Not spam 😔

[crimson pagoda]

#✨projects please

[fiery mesa]

okay sorry... did not see

[late ingot]

more like gay theory

I found Game Theory really tiresome at Uni

[stray tiger]

Lol some people get obsessed with it

[late ingot]

And one massive advocate of its use in political strategy, Yanis Varoufakis, proved himself to be an absolute imbecile who could not actually predict how people would behave outside of a police interrogation room

[crimson pagoda]

game theory is one of those psychology 101 things lol. like u take psychology 101 and u wont stfu about mental disorders for a few months. same thing with learning about game theory

[stray tiger]

stfu narcissist

It's not all about you

[crimson pagoda]

well listen man i learned in psychology class... if you took a couple PSYCHOLOGY classes you might understand that... in PSYCHOLOGY class they were saying how this is PSYCHOLOGICALLY...

[late ingot]

Ban psychology

[stray tiger]

the person Maria is dating is doing this

[gritty perch]

Now look up Wasons selection task

[stray tiger]

She's reading a pop psychology book now that's absolutely agonizingly full of bullshit

[late ingot]

Pop history is what enrages me the most though

[stray tiger]

"the body keeps the score" about how trauma is encoded in your bones

It reduces everything to trauma and all of psych to somatic therapies

[late ingot]

People who yap constantly about "trauma" are so fucking bad

[stray tiger]

It was an extremely popular book but oof

[stray tiger]

She also diagnosed Maria with CPTSD so you know

[crimson pagoda]

❌ the virgin The Body Keeps Score reader
✅ the chad Body Battery™ (product of Garmin™) glancer