💬off-topic

[wary ermine]

Thanks

[fervent basin]

not

[crimson pagoda]

guy posted a pic of his mailbox filled in with concrete with only a small hole for the mail to be inserted

the logic being that, if some teenager tries to smash his mailbox, it will harm the person smashing, probably pretty badly

xitter has been on fire with users defending/arguing against the practice of filling in ur mailbox with concrete

the baiting is so easy and the posts are so funny

ppl talking about how this is the beginning of the marxists plan to take over the west and shit

defend your mailbox or western civilization will fall!

ive been demanding to see pics of the insides of peoples' mailboxes. are u really about that life or are u all talk?

also, ive flipped the typical racebaiting 13/50 shit lol

instead of making it a race thing

"we all know its boys doing this. I'm just being realistic here. if we implemented strict curfews for teenage boys, nobody would have to fortify their mailbox"

[fervent basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pettyrevenge/comments/16m8fxy/someone_was_playing_mailbox_baseball_so_we_filled/

"Back in the 80's I was doing some rehab on a hamstring injury (I played a lot of amateur baseball) one of the other guys had several surgical scars on his right chest and shoulder. It turns out he was using a baseball bat on mail boxes and found one like yours, and his shoulder lost." lol

love that shit

"I read a similar story on here. Guy makes indestructible mailbox after getting his destroyed. A few days later he finds a broken bat. Later that week he hears the local high school quarterback is out for the season with a broken arm after some misadventures."

[crimson pagoda]

@polar folio extremely interesting result!

     class                               cos(essay,cen) class_mean      std  z-score
     gpt-4.1                                     0.7038     0.7532   0.0884    -0.56
     deepseek-chat-v3-0324                       0.6299     0.7475   0.0581    -2.02
     gemini-2.5-flash                            0.6111     0.7656   0.0766    -2.02
     gpt-4.1-mini                                0.5936     0.7569   0.0806    -2.03
     gpt-4.1-nano                                0.5653     0.7777   0.0569    -3.73
     llama-4-maverick                            0.5225     0.7106   0.0878    -2.14
     llama-3.1-70b-instruct                      0.5123     0.7204   0.0738    -2.82
     grok-3-mini-beta                            0.5103     0.8129   0.0487    -6.21
     llama-4-scout                               0.4971     0.7172   0.0878    -2.51
     train:lesswrong                             0.4698     0.5808   0.0815    -1.36
     mistral-nemo                                0.4262     0.7900   0.0798    -4.56
     llama-3.1-8b-instruct                       0.3909     0.7733   0.0651    -5.87
     train:fimfiction                            0.3444     0.5273   0.0928    -1.97
     human                                       0.3174     0.6970   0.0811    -4.68
     train:reddit                                0.0715     0.4478   0.1409    -2.67
     train:bluesky                               0.0155     0.3636   0.1131    -3.08
     train:discord                              -0.1060     0.4132   0.1058    -4.91

the interesting takeaways here

1. it did detect it, despite being way less accurate than pangram. how? I have no idea. the cosine similarity between ur essay and gpt-4.1 is more than twice as high as the cosine similarity between known-human essays and your essay
2. this points to an interesting failure mode. what I kinda thought would happen was that my model would fail and pangram's would succeed, because mine is less accurate and you would think that they're looking for the same cues as each other, they're both looking for the same signs of LLM-ness or human-ness. but apparently this isn't the case, they're both looking for something different

[late ingot]

I don't use Xitter, what is it?

[crimson pagoda]

#💬off-topic message
start here, i explain it

[fervent basin]

"I worked with a welder, who used to work for our states d.o.t. previously. As his house was right beside a main highway, one of his former coworkers thought it was funny to wipe out his mailbox with the snowplow repeatedly.

Over the summer, He proceeded to sink a length of well pipe into the ground, fill it with concrete, and weld up a custom mailbox. It had a normal looking box over top, so you couldn't tell just how solid it was.

First snowstorm, he wakes up to a loud noise, and sees flashing lights just past his house. Former coworker plowdriver goes to wipe his mailbox out, and breaks the wing on the plow.

Never screw with a welder."

[late ingot]

I remember when people used to say they secured their mailbox into the ground with concrete or made the post so rock solid that someone trying to smash it down would get hurt

Never heard of people literally filling up the inside

[fervent basin]

"We had a similar issue, and similar response, when I was in junior high. One of the high school students, we assumed he lived in the neighborhood, would use his souped up truck with cattle guard to bulldoze mailboxes after home football games (central Texas). My dad got a six foot steel pipe, dug a 3 foot hole, filled the hole and the pipe with cement and attached a plastic mailbox that clipped on and would just pop off if hit from the side. Without fail, the mailbox was hit, and it popped off, but the trap worked. The truck rammed it, probably at 35-40 mph (speed limit of 25 mph), and did manage to bend the pipe, but didn't knock it over, however, because of the trucks velocity and the new angle of the pipe meant it it was now on tip of the pole. Enter panic mode. If the kid had just kept going forward, he probably could have unstuck himself, but he put it in reverse and floored it. Remember, I said it was souped up? He reversed full speed with his suspension and front quarter panel hooked on the pole. The next day his dad threatened to sue my dad, until my dad threatened to turn his son in to the USPS. I never saw the truck again and not a single mailbox was purposefully destroyed in the neighborhood, for years."

these are all hilarious stories

"My favorite killer mailbox story was relayed to me by my grandpa. He said he had a neighbor who kept getting his mailbox run over, so he devised a mailbox on a pivot. At the buried end of the pivot was a ball with spikes on it. When the mailbox was run over the next time, the ball hit the car's oil pan. There was reportedly a trail of oil leading directly to the disabled vehicle and the culprit."

[crimson pagoda]

filling the inside is where it gets kinda insidious tbh

like jokes aside

if your mailbox is clearly strong enough to withstand a blow from a bat or whatever, yeah, fine, you dont owe anyone a weak mailbox

but filling up the inside so it looks easy to damage but isn't is very different

[fervent basin]

idk man, don't damage mailboxes

we don't even have them in the uk. you just put mail through the door

[crimson pagoda]

attach a grenade to the inside of your door in case a miscreant tries to kick it in

[fervent basin]

now that's extreme

"We used to have this problem. We lived in the sticks and we would have problems in the fall with out of town hunters and there yard apes destroying mailboxes. Our mail person wouldn’t deliver our mail if the mail box was knocked down so we would have to drive the 25 miles one way to the post office to get our mail. My mom decided we would put down 10 foot piece of 3 inch drill stem and put a barrel on top of it with the mailbox. It didn’t take long for dumbass to try and run over it that night. The next morning we found a ford pickup wrapped around our mailbox with 3 head shaped round circles in the windshield. Never did have mailbox problems after that."

[plucky gyro]

Need realtime Video 2 video rerender model for pico4

[fervent basin]

"Lol, my uncle also did the concrete mailbox after his got smashed a few times. Collected a bat that way. The few nights later a loud bang part though was different. The kids stuffed some M80s in it. It survived, though damaged, and with no front."

[plucky gyro]

want to see real world in anime

[crimson pagoda]

@vernal mantle @sterile zealot very very interesting

[fervent basin]

"Just makes me think of the story a guy wrote about how the city snowplow kept destroying a mailbox and the city’s response was along the lines of “wimpy mailbox”, so the homeowner went to the postal office and figured out the restrictions on mailboxes and built an indestructible one. Next time the snowplow came through the mailbox won and the homeowners response was along the lines of “wimpy snowplow” "

"My best friend's parents had this issue. It happened weekly. They would hit the mailbox and the garbage can at the same time. Scattering trash all over the yard. They didn't end up replacing the mailbox with something better. Just a regular mailbox on a post, trash can right next to it. And a trash bag on the ground in between them. Except the trash bag had a huge Boulder in it. We held the bag open and his dad rolled it right into it then tied it shut. The next day there was a bumper on the front yard and radiator fluid leading out into the road. The bag was all tore up and you could see the scratched up Boulder inside. But it never happened again."

[late ingot]

Generally making booby traps is illegal even if you've already been the victim of a crime and expect to be again

[inland hill]

plot twist this was deliberately faked as ai and is actually human

[crimson pagoda]

people have argued (and i think this is correct, despite generally disagreeing with the point they're making) that booby trap is a bit of a stretch here. the reason booby traps are illegal generally, as i understand it, is because you can't really control their deployment. the shotgun trigger tied to the doorknob could be triggered by a burglar breaking in, or by a paramedic coming through the door when you need medical attention. you can argue that, like, a kid could crash his bike into your retarded concrete mailbox, but that's still a pretty far cry from how the concrete mailbox would affect someone intentionally trying to destroy it, you know?

[late ingot]

I think its related to proportionality, like it would trigger when you are not present, and seriously injuring or killing a criminal on your property is only permitted when there is imminent danger to you

[inland hill]

in hungary a lot depends on it being literally inside the house or not

[late ingot]

A booby trap would be less justifiable if you left it rigged in your property to hurt any burglar who tries to rob you while you are away on holiday

[crimson pagoda]

yeah the proportionality is where i diverge with the mailbox-concreters. smashing mailboxes is a very 16 yr old coded crime, and sure it should be punished but i also dont think someone should have their arm shattered over what is really just an act of petty vandalism

[late ingot]

The proportionate response to someone wandering around your garden damaging stuff or trying to pull stuff down would be something like barbed wire or anti-climb paint

Because ultimately barbed wire hurts and can do a bit of damage, but generally wont inflict severe injury

Anti-climb paint ruins clothes

And also makes it way easier to identify the criminal in the aftermath

Neither works for a mailbox smasher but really you should just have a camera pointed at the box

[crimson pagoda]

i cant get over how fucking funny this screed about marxists is

the marxists want to ruin my mailbox

[late ingot]

Proportionality is what gets considered in broad terms when looking at "standing your ground" in common law (that is, when the conditions aren't explicitly set out in legislation) and usually comes down to whether you could retreat or whether you were really facing imminent threat

[crimson pagoda]

just looked it up cause ive never heard of this

anti climb paint is cool

[late ingot]

People would pull down our election signs so we put anti climb paint on some of the big ones

Since it would be disproportionate to have sharp edges or barbed wire

[crimson pagoda]

@polar folio here's where your essay sits in the embedding space, visualized w/ PCA

placed firmly within the LLM-band

😮

I'm fascinated by this

I don't understand why this worked

if you have other samples from your model send them over, this is super cool

[fervent basin]

i love beating the ais with a stick

it makes me feel great

https://giphy.com/gifs/fallontonight-john-goodman-good-feeling-feels-great-iRmRk61IGXsvwoyUaP

[loud girder]

User Info

Here's some information about @pine patrol, requested by @pine patrol.

[crimson pagoda]

yeah it's really bizarre

no! because my accuracy is like way lower than pangram's still, which makes the whole thing even weirder

[mild nacelle]

paper mail should be phased out anyway

[crimson pagoda]

what I think is happening here is

[tiny merlin]

SPUD TODAY

[crimson pagoda]

pangram's classifier has latched onto some set of LLM-ified text markers

but

that's not all LLM-ified text markers

their classifier was trained to discriminate against this subset of features that led to extremely high accuracy

and so the accuracy is achievable even without having a perfect map of what makes text human or LLM

my embedding model is picking up on a much larger set of text features overall, but does not apply them as sharply and so accuracy isn't as high

[mild nacelle]

says who

if its some asshole on twitter fuck you

[abstract dagger]

i heard something about people voting trump out of power

sounds like misinformation

what actually happened?

[tiny merlin]

I will die if it isn’t released today

I bet my life on it

My entire bloodline will PERISH

If it doesn’t release today

[fervent basin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-ibByvyR7hrKackOVRW

[crimson pagoda]

well yes

i guess what's so surprising to me then is like

[crimson pagoda]

there is apparently a very rich and almost completely invisible set of text features that point either to AI-ness or human-ness

i think the assumption i was working under previously, which i have to revise now

was that pangram had maybe not complete coverage of this set of features, but like, good enough coverage of these features

it seems that there must be some larger set that they're getting pretty weak coverage on

[stray tiger]

That looks vaguely like you and this looks like you're saying you got murdered by TTT

https://youtube.com/watch?v=UXhb2a8LEgE

[buoyant terrace]

https://www.reddit.com/r/funnyvideos/comments/1stbxt6/422_is_four_twenty_too/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[stray tiger]

That's its claim to fame. For instance, a ton of classifiers pick up on highly structured text, em dashes (I think pangram straight up ignores them) the bullet: a few words : → char : a few words pattern, etc.

Those are intensely popular in AI generated text, but also in PPT lecture notes and some scientific papers

[crimson pagoda]

yes, pangram basically ignores em dashes now since they're trivial to swap to "mask" your AI text, and can trigger false positives on human users

hmmmmm

I feel like I'm having a hard time explaining why this is so weird to me

I'm having trouble putting it to words

[stray tiger]

I tried swapping them out in an em filled text before running it through pangram. You thought it would give a weak signal, at least?

Or take it into account in addition to other factors?

Because it's the convergence of factors that makes text likely to be LLM generated anyway?

They're probably ones with poor discriminatory accuracy during an intersection condition or something

[crimson pagoda]

I'm sure it weights them to some degree because it can't fully ignore any piece of text that's fed into it, but what I mean is, they're not a strong decision boundary making tool in the process. at least, that's how it appears to me from the (admittedly limited) testing I've done on their effect on pangram's output

[crimson pagoda]

yeah, maybe that's part of it

I'm not sure

[stray tiger]

A lot of the "lecture notes" or "structured text" factors tend to go together, might be part of it. Maybe you have a real inefficiency if it really comes off as that weird to you, you know how this works better than most people on earth

It does seem like they could somehow have taken this into account if it's even possible for you to detect with (presumably) more limited resources

[round lion]

Did anybody post pics of themselves on AI and asked it to modify ur self to look different for example u wanna look emo goth with arm tattoos and face tattoos with piercings all over and spiky dyed hair in multi colours?

[stray tiger]

Nothing related to LLMs is as intensely efficient and effective as we'd like to think though. Like that godawful OAI system prompt I couldn't believe was real?

[crimson pagoda]

well i mean this whole thing is sort of sidelined by the fact that cucaracha was specifically targeting pangram, but was not specifically targeting my embedding model

I guess what's so surprising to me here is that

pangram's accuracy is absurdly good, like absolutely shocking to me still

[stray tiger]

Yeah, my mom has tried hairstyles with it

[crimson pagoda]

of course I know you can RL around the features that it's looking to detect AI with

but I would've thought that this would be a more complete coverage of all features

[stray tiger]

🤔

[crimson pagoda]

I think my revised view of pangram now is

they have locked onto a very efficient set of features

but in spite of their extremely high accuracy, they are still missing an enormous amount of rich understanding of textual features

probably because their whole training goal from step 0 is that they need to discriminate AI vs human

[stray tiger]

There's probably something real there then, sounds fair to me

[crimson pagoda]

they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater

[wary ermine]

@crimson pagoda

Trentk

AI is bad for you

I'm just trying to look out for my friends

[fervent basin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ai-vchf13-big-ears-guy-OxHhuNzd3ePH64yqnK

trentk is all ears

[stray tiger]

I agree, the ladies often comment on how big I am and I hate diversity

*hnnnnnngh **I'm Norwooding 😩 😩 😩 ***

[pine patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/octopus-dumbo-octopus-squid-silky-smooth-butter-gif-23182350

[undone lake]

turns out that telling gpt to actually think before generating so it can do research on what the exact colours are of a character gives you much better results

[stray tiger]

I'm gonna Norwoooooooood

[stray tiger]

Lol someone said this the other day, using Thinking and turning up the effort seems helpful for Image 2

It spends a long fucking time churning tokens too

[undone lake]

yeah it's pretty insane how it got everything right

v2 is perfect for people that can already draw insanely good

but for the rest of us that want new creative characters it still sux

been thinking for almost 10 minutes now for a single panel

[loud girder]

Knowledge Base
No messages in knowledge base.

[stray tiger]

That's the longest I've seen but not unpredictable

[undone lake]

still going

it's going past so many sites lmao

[stray tiger]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-026-71264-8

[abstract dagger]

fr

just ask it to think

[undone lake]

after 15min of thinking it's finally generating

imagine if it looks like crap, that would be awesome

[sterile zealot]

is it good for generating foids or will u still use gemini for that

[undone lake]

I'll still use gemini

v2 sucks at creating characters

nano banana flash is better

or nano banana 2

whatever people call it these days

[inland hill]

hat said caffeinated coffee reduced anxiety, psychological distress, blood pressure, and improved attention and stress coping, while decaffeinated coffee enhanced sleep, physical activity, and memory. Both types lowered stress, depression, impulsivity, and inflammation, while also boosting mood and cognitive performance. Coffee influenced the gut microbiome, increased beneficial (poly)phenols and metabolites, and provided anti-inflammatory effects, suggesting that coffee, regardless of caffeine content, supports cognitive, psychological, immune, and metabolic health in distinct but complementary ways.

hm

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

Yup. Image gen 2.0 is amazing. Even knows this!!

/r/ChatGPT/comments/1st7s2f/yup_image_gen_20_is_amazing_even_knows_this/

https://i.redd.it/3q541xrw4vwg1.jpeg
Posted by /u/Ok-Entrepreneur-9756
Don't want to see more? Mods can unlink this subreddit with /reddit unlink

[stray tiger]

Yeah, the correlates and how they come about are intensely interesting, maybe I should have hyped it more

[undone lake]

lol

[sterile zealot]

this is a elon 'ocksucker ccount

[stray tiger]

@violet herald possible interest. Who else is a coffee drinker, @late ingot maybe? @merry bluff? @worldly loom? Idk everyone likes coffee ☕

[stray tiger]

I mean he's right, you should have the option to pick

[elfin scarab]

im drinking coffee rn

[pine patrol]

What stage of entitlement is this

[pine patrol]

I prefer tea

Nice, translation is up

[polar folio]

holy shit thats crazy. i actually didnt expect it to detect it

[polar folio]

ill send more one sec

[inland hill]

ye

i saved it thx

where is the bot chat btw

[late ingot]

I only drink black coffee

[pine patrol]

What bot chat?

[undone lake]

I want a bochi instead

[inland hill]

ols said that i can only play w the coin flip bot in the bots channel

[loud girder]

Generating your image now. Please wait!

Prompt:

black coffee chatbot

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot follow the thread up through the replies of this, this is super super interesting

[loud girder]

Sorry @pine patrol! An error occurred with your image generation.
Prompt:

black coffee chatbot

[crimson pagoda]

me rn

[abstract dagger]

coke*

[loud girder]

Your message has been deleted, sorry!
Next time, try saying something like this instead: I enjoy beverages that are bold and unique.

mcdonaldsandcats

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[elfin scarab]

same

[pine patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-with-buttefly-gif-4014052350525340766

low cortisol dog

[inland hill]

so the only true humans live on lesswrong?

[elfin scarab]

bocchi?

bocchi the rock

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-cringe-gif-27026754

[pine patrol]

bac si

[abstract dagger]

🤬🤬

[pine patrol]

bác sĩ

[abstract dagger]

i drink coke

tea and coffee sufk

[polar folio]

this one is 100% confidence on pangram, 98% on originality, and 87% on gptzero

[pine patrol]

Yes

[undone lake]

bac si

[pine patrol]

That was on purpose

[crimson pagoda]

the embedding space shows differences in writing style for each point relative to all other points. neither axis cleanly maps onto "this is/isn't AI"
lesswrong has the most distinctive writing style out of all the training data is what you're seeing here

[undone lake]

muy bien

[elfin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-gold-ship-uma-baby-holding-laugh-annaberuuu-gif-11103023866792164026

[inland hill]

hence it probably being human

[undone lake]

uma

[pine patrol]

الحركة بركة

[undone lake]

habibi, I...

[undone lake]

if gpt 5.5 isn't releasing today I'll lose my shit

[elfin scarab]

أَشْهَدُ أَنْ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰهُ وَأَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰهِ

[mild nacelle]

hype sponge :#

[crimson pagoda]

put money on it on polymarket pussy

[pine patrol]

Nobody uses diacritics

[inland hill]

imo generally the more ais u average the closer the human writing style will be to the middle

[elfin scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-meep-low-cortisol-dance-chibi-gif-17107758709618840273

[crimson pagoda]

no matter what i include/exclude from the training data, AI sits firmly separated from all other text's embeddings

really not sure what it's detecting, but it can see the difference clearly

[late ingot]

boccher

[late ingot]

The April bot got kicked I think

[inland hill]

hmm interesting

[mild nacelle]

nooo my millions of april bucks

[inland hill]

could it be predicting via how many exclamation marks are used

[late ingot]

idk if you play the game "irl" but in irl there is something known as a "coin" which you can flip in the air using your fingers, which has the same effect as a /coinflip command in discord

[inland hill]

idk what is smth that most data has

[mild nacelle]

I shall abuse other bot commands in protest

[inland hill]

not an even chance tho

[undone lake]

I can't I'm very poor

[inland hill]

smth like 50.8%

well bot too is not truly 50 so

[sterile zealot]

yeah i read it earlier

[inland hill]

prng is good enough

[crimson pagoda]

     class                               cos(essay,cen) class_mean      std  z-score
     gpt-4.1                                     0.6033     0.7532   0.0884    -1.70
     gemini-2.5-flash                            0.5880     0.7656   0.0766    -2.32
     llama-4-maverick                            0.5640     0.7106   0.0878    -1.67
     llama-3.1-70b-instruct                      0.5496     0.7204   0.0738    -2.32
     gpt-4.1-mini                                0.5356     0.7569   0.0806    -2.75
     deepseek-chat-v3-0324                       0.5237     0.7475   0.0581    -3.85
     llama-4-scout                               0.5208     0.7172   0.0878    -2.24
     gpt-4.1-nano                                0.4993     0.7777   0.0569    -4.89
     grok-3-mini-beta                            0.4656     0.8129   0.0487    -7.13
     train:lesswrong                             0.4637     0.5808   0.0815    -1.44
     llama-3.1-8b-instruct                       0.4589     0.7733   0.0651    -4.83
     mistral-nemo                                0.4559     0.7900   0.0798    -4.18
     human                                       0.4351     0.6970   0.0811    -3.23
     train:fimfiction                            0.3613     0.5273   0.0928    -1.79
     train:reddit                                0.0409     0.4478   0.1409    -2.89
     train:bluesky                              -0.0270     0.3636   0.1131    -3.45
     train:discord                              -0.0780     0.4132   0.1058    -4.64

this one is still closest to gpt-4.1 in style, but not as distant from the human centroid this time. interesting
P(LLM) here as predicted by my model was 0.900 (full text) and 0.879 (truncated to 2000 chars to match training data)

[pine patrol]

How do you even have this?

[cunning nymph]

Found one!

🐶 Woof!

[pine patrol]

Vencord?

[elfin scarab]

vencord translation plugin

[mild nacelle]

check it out, its google maps for trees. https://madisonwi.treekeepersoftware.com/index.cfm?deviceWidth=1728

[pine patrol]

[mild nacelle]

trees suck nitrogen out of the air and turn it into pretty sculptures

[polar folio]

i think i generated the essay using gpt? but rephrased with llama 8b

[polar folio]

so its not very humanlike and not very llm-like right? is that what it means?

[stray tiger]

centroid
coid
humanoid (yuky!)
hoid

[stray tiger]

very roid and not hoid yes

[inland hill]

zhe aliens

what is the z for mumbled text

can we reach10 sigma

[mild nacelle]

@undone lake whats so good about spud

whats the lore

[stray tiger]

Based

[elder ledge]

Welcome to AIPAC

[stray tiger]

Holy shit ols that's fuckin wild

[mild nacelle]

what

oh

ever since I started modafinil I dont feel like I need coffee

[late ingot]

I have plenty of decaff around too but it tastes weird

[stray tiger]

v1 if the noise is too hard on your use case

[late ingot]

I don't drink loads of coffee everyday, one in the morning is fine

[mild nacelle]

thats the advantage of cream and sugar

[late ingot]

Nah

[mild nacelle]

yes, I can digest milk proteins. get mogged

[crimson pagoda]

no, it's still firmly out of the human-o-sphere. not as firmly as before, but firmly still. you can see it is still significantly more similar to gpt-4.1 (0.6033) than to the closest human category, train:lesswrong (0.4637). the human essay baseline category ("human" in the table) is at 0.4351, but this may be somewhat contaminated by the fact that a lot of the essays in my dataset are somewhat low quality. I'm inclined to believe it finds lesswrong more similar because lesswrong content is just actually better than most of my essays in the dataset lol
check out the PCA chart. you can see the new essay you sent me gets closer to human-space but it's still quite distant. some of the lesswrong content comes pretty close to matching the new essay in style though. very interesting

[late ingot]

My Mum always asks me if she "needs to" bring milk when she comes to visit though

And she's left her own personal sweetener stash next to my coffee

[stray tiger]

Oh just any of the Bots category channels ig or #📋testing-zone

[mild nacelle]

interesting how your taste buds can get used to bitter things

[crimson pagoda]

including gpt-4.1 here you can see that it's sort of in the boundary between gpt-4.1 and lesswrong, only slightly closer to gpt-4.1 than to lesswrong in the case of the new essay

[stray tiger]

How's it going? Being off caffeine is nice, try doing some green tea and you'll prolly notice a nice, relaxed lift

[mild nacelle]

when I imagine an apple I involuntarily conjure a background as well, with it hanging on a gently bobbing branch with birds chirping in the background

[late ingot]

more relaxing if you boof it too

[late ingot]

Can you feel the apple in your hand, slice it up, feel the texture as you bite into it?

[crimson pagoda]

@sterile zealot @vernal mantle @polar folio SCALE IS ALL YOU NEED
retrained several copies of the same model. same dataset, (mostly) same hyperparameters
gte-tiny: 89.67%
gte-small: 90.99%
gte-base: 91.25%
gte-large: 93.55%
Qwen3-Embedding-4B (LoRA): 96.24%
😮

[late ingot]

I can do all those things too

My mental visualisation felt a bit impaired for a while recently, it made me feel sad

Now its back and all is well

[late ingot]

what was wild anyway?

[mild nacelle]

yeah it has a smooth but stubborn texture like rubber on a tire. and the snap when my incisors break into its skin. the wet-sand like texture of its flesh

[polar folio]

heres another. medium - high confidence on pangram.

[stray tiger]

That's how I imagine Johnny Applesack. Dangling and swangin

[sterile zealot]

insane

now do 8b

[stray tiger]

You only drink black co

[crimson pagoda]

would be kinda expensive, im gonna do 8b but I'm only gonna do 8b once I have a way bigger dataset. this was primarily to establish scaling laws

[stray tiger]

It got cut off for some weird reason 🤔 but I can fill in the gap 🐓

[inland hill]

Classic literature no stand. What counts as a "classic" shifts with the big culture. Word permanent, list behind changing, changes say what is value.

Literature was  word., stories made by storytellers . Gilgamesh, the Iliad, living acts. Once stories were clayed, papryrusd, or  parchmented, they could live long. Text is immortal.

Th big writing spread,  drama, philosophy, and history spread. Scholars spread and argued. In the Middle Ages, monks preserved, Japan, Europe, and the Islamic world preserved. The Tale of The Divine Comedy was one culture. Never universal.

Renaissance was the big Greek and Roman ideas again, humans are god. Shakespeare was strange now not. The printing press was worth reading, but divided readers. Romantic writers didn't need to be epic.

The nineteenth century belonged to Dickens he dissect class, labor, and power. Books crossed borders more easily, on boats. great works started to smoke crack.

Then came the big 20. We started questioning how stories are told. Writers pushed back against Western cowboys and widened the map of the world. Radio, no reading.

what is a classic? TikTok or Wattpad is classic. Next great epic come from a video game. A classic is defined by age. work that refuses to go away. @crimson pagoda high on pangram

[stray tiger]

Much like black co- can with ya mum innit

[crimson pagoda]

this essay is ass

[late ingot]

ah lol

[crimson pagoda]

"scores highly human on pangram" is easy. "scores highly human on pangram while also being a good essay" is more difficult

[stray tiger]

Are you legit imagining a fucking red delicious

Barf

[inland hill]

this scores as ai

[stray tiger]

lol sorry, I'm immature. Sue me

[crimson pagoda]

what it scores as is almost irrelevant here because it's just a shitty essay no matter who/what wrote it

[inland hill]

i was curious about where your model would put it

to see what it taps on

[late ingot]

This here is my motherfuckin' essay on the causes of the US civil fuckin' war

It was deadass caused because some pussy-ass white dudes were lazy as shit and figured they were too good to pick their own cotton, so they went to Africa to round up a bunch of n...

[crimson pagoda]

oh ok

hold on, will re-render, plus cucaracha's latest one

[stray tiger]

what from? You think that was related to moda? Stress? Nothing special?

[late ingot]

Stress/low mood probably

It's all good now

[stray tiger]

Job, family, seasonal?

[late ingot]

Mix of job and seasonal probably

[stray tiger]

I get it bad seasonally, that's one reason I try to spend winter holiday in Albuquerque

[late ingot]

Job is annoying at times, trying to get transferred to another team properly and have a clear structure but its a bit hard to get that going when other people are dithering

[fervent basin]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-café-gif-14589215896344195173

[stray tiger]

What kind of transfer? Like a very different team, lateral move to a more active project or what?

peepoEyes

[late ingot]

Move out of cybersec to something delivering a more tangible service

[inland hill]

I'm trying to transfer teams but it turns out "clear structure" and "corporate decision-making" go together like oil and a second kind of oil that also doesn't mix with water.

interesting claude joke

[stray tiger]

Lmao

[inland hill]

good luck tho

[fervent basin]

@inland hill https://youtu.be/haezUgPnwPc?si=Y9tMcieNc3zMm5qC

[stray tiger]

Can you give any detail about the target role without instantly doxing your office? I'm just curious, I find it deeply fulfilling to do work people legitimately appreciate and that saves them mad time/effort, so that sounds fantastic to me

[inland hill]

he leads cybersec in the uk govt

[abstract dagger]

fr

im so tired of my day job

[stray tiger]

He aims the goybeam ya kno

[abstract dagger]

i want to at least finish my contract before stopping

then i may stop working for a bit

maybe travel the world a little

[late ingot]

Stuff to do with communication tools used by public services managed by the department

[stray tiger]

It's why @sterile zealot has been extra tarded, Ols has been beaming peptides directly into his brain

[crimson pagoda]

@polar folio your latest essay still scores as gpt-4.1. you said you generated the pre-rewrite version with gpt, right? that's very interesting if so. maybe it's keeping some of the stylistic DNA of the model that generated it and only patching the bare minimum to pass Pangram?

     class                               cos(essay,cen) class_mean      std  z-score                    
     gpt-4.1                                     0.6235     0.7532   0.0884    -1.47
     deepseek-chat-v3-0324                       0.5904     0.7475   0.0581    -2.70                    
     llama-4-maverick                            0.5668     0.7106   0.0878    -1.64         
     gpt-4.1-mini                                0.5664     0.7569   0.0806    -2.36                    
     gemini-2.5-flash                            0.5587     0.7656   0.0766    -2.70         
     llama-3.1-70b-instruct                      0.5382     0.7204   0.0738    -2.47                    
     gpt-4.1-nano                                0.5350     0.7777   0.0569    -4.26        
     llama-4-scout                               0.5322     0.7172   0.0878    -2.11                    
     grok-3-mini-beta                            0.4987     0.8129   0.0487    -6.45                    
     train:fimfiction                            0.4786     0.5273   0.0928    -0.52                  
     llama-3.1-8b-instruct                       0.4452     0.7733   0.0651    -5.04                    
     mistral-nemo                                0.4370     0.7900   0.0798    -4.42         
     train:lesswrong                             0.4164     0.5808   0.0815    -2.02                    
     human                                       0.3993     0.6970   0.0811    -3.67
     train:reddit                                0.0785     0.4478   0.1409    -2.62                    
     train:bluesky                              -0.0583     0.3636   0.1131    -3.73                    
     train:discord                              -0.0913     0.4132   0.1058    -4.77                    

this time though, the closest non-AI category is fimfiction. very strange. not sure what to make of that
detected as AI at 91.15% (full text) and 93.19% (truncated <=2000 chars)

[inland hill]

aka public mind control

[stray tiger]

Ahhh okay. Like internal users or broader public?

[mild nacelle]

image 2.0
I cant tell if the tail holding the bow is intentional or not. the doube tipped arrows are probably not intentional.

[late ingot]

Mixture

[crimson pagoda]

@inland hill your essay was classified as AI, but only barely. maybe just cause it's shitty. i dont know lmao. i am really not sure what to make of this

     class                               cos(essay,cen) class_mean      std  z-score        
     human                                       0.4125     0.6970   0.0811    -3.51
     mistral-nemo                                0.3445     0.7900   0.0798    -5.58
     deepseek-chat-v3-0324                       0.3248     0.7475   0.0581    -7.27
     gpt-4.1                                     0.2930     0.7532   0.0884    -5.21
     llama-4-scout                               0.2885     0.7172   0.0878    -4.88
     llama-3.1-8b-instruct                       0.2821     0.7733   0.0651    -7.54
     llama-3.1-70b-instruct                      0.2802     0.7204   0.0738    -5.97
     gpt-4.1-mini                                0.2619     0.7569   0.0806    -6.14
     llama-4-maverick                            0.2578     0.7106   0.0878    -5.16                    
     gemini-2.5-flash                            0.2388     0.7656   0.0766    -6.87                    
     grok-3-mini-beta                            0.2361     0.8129   0.0487   -11.84                   
     train:lesswrong                             0.2278     0.5808   0.0815    -4.33                    
     train:fimfiction                            0.2271     0.5273   0.0928    -3.24                    
     gpt-4.1-nano                                0.2225     0.7777   0.0569    -9.75                    
     train:reddit                               -0.0113     0.4478   0.1409    -3.26                  
     train:bluesky                              -0.1583     0.3636   0.1131    -4.61
     train:discord                              -0.2500     0.4132   0.1058    -6.27

interestingly, the model didn't seem to know what to make of this one! P(LLM) for both fulltext and <=2k chars was 53.43%. very strange

[late ingot]

All of them have those features though

[stray tiger]

For some reason I thought you'd already transferred to that kind of role, maybe you were talking about a similar past one or speculating 🤔

That's coo though

[crimson pagoda]

it looks like it was actually closest by distance to the human cluster

[inland hill]

yes 11 sigma

[mild nacelle]

images 2.0 is great at consistency but it suffers some old AI image-isms like extra limbs and shit

[crimson pagoda]

but the linear regression still marked it as AI

very weird

[stray tiger]

Get to flex some human factors, hope there's not too much bureaucracy

[late ingot]

If you want heraldry then consider getting it described using proper heraldic language (there's like a special set of definitions they use to make them easier to reproduce without a visual reference)

[stray tiger]

Definitely needs polish

[mild nacelle]

yeah I sent it a blazon

[inland hill]

interesting

what i can say from this

[stray tiger]

Early no-nobonon was kinda like that

[crimson pagoda]

was this AI-generated or human or some mix? i honestly cant tell myself lol

[polar folio]

used llama 70b to generate this essay

[late ingot]

Try Or, a stallion gules winged sable flammant proper and see what it does

[inland hill]

is that your detector is probably looking at the structure of storytelling?

if that makes any sense

[inland hill]

cucahara's answer was remade by me and some ai parts made out to be shitty

[inland hill]

[abstract dagger]

what are you using to detect this?

[mild nacelle]

images 2.0 makes everything overly gritty/grimey

[mild nacelle]

its a ponyta

[late ingot]

It goes a little hard on the flames but everything else is right

[stray tiger]

In his undergraduate thesis, Finnish cognitive scientist Lassi Liikkanen (2004) carried out an
extensive review of persistent musical imagery as manifested within relative silence. He
identified four types of “ongoing musical experience” that are, at present, difficult to clearly
discriminate amongst:

1. simple musical imagery – simply recreating a song in your mind
2. cognitive itch – used to describe the self-perpetuating process underlying the song-stuck-
   in-your-head phenomenon by analogy
3. functional musical hallucinations – hallucinated music in the absence of an identifiable
   neurological etiology
4. organic musical hallucinations – hallucinated music associated with neurological damage or deficits, e.g. stroke, hypoxia, neurosurgery or head trauma
   Each of these phenomena – surprisingly common, potent and novel – provides insight into our obsession with music at a base cognitive level and into how we handle silence as a result thereof.

The ability to get a song “stuck in one’s head” is a complex, yet rarely-questioned human quirk. After all, even though it is readily reproduced in a controlled setting (L Liikkanen 2009) and almost every individual in Western societies reports experiencing so-called “involuntary musical imagery” when questioned, (J Kellaris 2003) it shares more features in common with psychosis
or obsessive-compulsive symptomatology than it does with normal perception. Suffering from
this temporary affliction means being compelled to repeat a short selection of (usually lyrical)
content, mantra-like, in a largely predetermined tone and meter, with room for some superficial improvisation but little room for deviation. In some ways, musical hallucinations (MHs) can be seen as an extreme case of this, in which music present solely “in the head” is explicitly perceived as being real.

[late ingot]

make it do gay ponyta then

[stray tiger]

Do this one!

[pine patrol]

This is super detailed for a coat of arms

[crimson pagoda]

custom trained model for generalized authorship attribution

[crimson pagoda]

LLM essay or human essay? need to know for my own notes

[abstract dagger]

damn thats cool

i doubt my essays would be flagged

[stray tiger]

It's mine

[crimson pagoda]

oh yeah, @inland hill @polar folio forgot to include the latest PCA

[stray tiger]

Old one

[mild nacelle]

not really. most Ive seen have much more detail

[stray tiger]

I have another chunk from this same essay that is more novel, but they both should be strongly human

[mild nacelle]

images is much faster today

[late ingot]

Glitterhoof...

[stray tiger]

Why the fuck did I pick that analogy

[late ingot]

I can't find where I saved my University essays anymore

I might have hard copies in a folder somewhere

[crimson pagoda]

your essay broke my detector very strange!

     class                               cos(essay,cen) class_mean      std  z-score
     train:lesswrong                             0.5740     0.5808   0.0815    -0.08
     gemini-2.5-flash                            0.5653     0.7656   0.0766    -2.61
     gpt-4.1                                     0.5288     0.7532   0.0884    -2.54
     llama-4-maverick                            0.5265     0.7106   0.0878    -2.10
     gpt-4.1-mini                                0.5149     0.7569   0.0806    -3.00
     llama-3.1-70b-instruct                      0.5108     0.7204   0.0738    -2.84
     gpt-4.1-nano                                0.4960     0.7777   0.0569    -4.95
     grok-3-mini-beta                            0.4921     0.8129   0.0487    -6.59
     llama-4-scout                               0.4899     0.7172   0.0878    -2.59
     mistral-nemo                                0.4736     0.7900   0.0798    -3.96
     deepseek-chat-v3-0324                       0.4625     0.7475   0.0581    -4.90
     llama-3.1-8b-instruct                       0.4490     0.7733   0.0651    -4.98
     human                                       0.4470     0.6970   0.0811    -3.08
     train:fimfiction                            0.1455     0.5273   0.0928    -4.11
     train:reddit                                0.0717     0.4478   0.1409    -2.67
     train:bluesky                               0.0207     0.3636   0.1131    -3.03
     train:discord                              -0.0063     0.4132   0.1058    -3.96

your essay bears the most resemblance to LessWrong writing, but interestingly, gemini-2.5-flash is right on lesswrong's heels here.
P(LLM) = 0.8539
so the detector is fairly confident that your essay is AI-generated, but not perfectly so. an interesting false positive in any case

[stray tiger]

They're easy to scan, hopefully so. I was quite proud of mine and had printed + casually bound copies sitting out

[worldly loom]

I drink coffe often. I drink half caffeinated, half decaf 1 to 3 times per a week.

[stray tiger]

Whoooooa

[worldly loom]

My dad made me a strong coffee and I peed 8 times on a country walk, I felt like I was going to die before I got home and had some water.

[stray tiger]

Looool sometimes that just happens, you break the seal and just can't stop peeing

That's funi

[inland hill]

Deep sea creatures no stand. What counts as a fish shifts big pressure. Word permanent, list behind changing, changes say what is alive.
Squid was the big fish and shark ideas again, whales are god. Dog was strange now not. The sonar was worth finding, but divided scientists. Biological creatures didn't need to be big.
Ocean was word., creatures made by darkness. Anglerfish, the squid, living acts. Once creatures were gilled, finned, or tentacled, they could live long. Body is immoral.
The big water spread, jellyfish and worms spread. Scientists spread and argued. In the deep trenches, vents preserved and Indian ocean preserved. The Giant Squid was one tree. Never universal.
The one nine century belonged to Darwin he dissect species, evolution, and power and church. Creature crossed oceans more easily, on currents. great discoveries started to smile.
Then came the big two 0. We not know how life works. Science pushed back against big surface cowboys and the map of the deep became wider. Submarines, no seeing, not any.
what is a fish? Jellyfish or squid is fish, is it fish. Next great creature come from a thermal vent. A fish is defined by depth. creature refuses to go away that lives.

[stray tiger]

Ummm that's wild. Want to test another chunk from this essay? I don't always write quite like this, a little curious

[late ingot]

My favourite one was "Is Pride a Disorder?" which I wrote for my Medical Ethics/Philosophy of Medicine course

[worldly loom]

Wasn't there an animal in Jojo that had a stand?

[fervent basin]

what anime is dis

[late ingot]

Yeah there was the rape-ape that was on that big ship

And also they had a dog with a stand

[stray tiger]

I did sexuality in the Bible for a presentation thing, going into detail on Sodom and Gomorrah. Funi. What was yours about?

[mild nacelle]

would the human race survive if there were no accidental pregnancies?

[worldly loom]

Oh that was so fucked up, depict a pre-pubescant gril but with mature chest.

[fervent basin]

is this some legit output from unity ai

[late ingot]

https://jojowiki.com/Forever

[stray tiger]

This is from the second part of the essay, this is less likely to break it.

How do you ask someone about their experience of or even their thoughts on silence, particularly in a musical context? The difficulty that subjects have in taking this line of questioning seriously is understandable; after all, you are asking them about a case they likely perceive as having zero semiotic density. For ease of sample collection, I broached the subject without the benefits of a preconstructed setting, generating responses that ranged from laughter and incredulity to an immediate descent into seriousness to, most interestingly, anger. This anger came up again and again, particularly later into my interviews when I would mention the scholarship and artwork of John Cage. Certain subjects saw his famous composition 4’33” as “ridiculous”, “useless”, “a… waste” and were infuriated by the idea that he could do effectively nothing and pass it off as art. Just like blank canvases – another example of extremely low semiotic density – tend to inspire hostile reactions from those expecting visual art to contain explicit potential signs, many individuals respond negatively to music with extremely low semiotic density (e.g. silence, individual notes, single frequency tones or ambient noise). My early responses to this led me to ask my subjects what they felt were the minimal sonic requirements for a piece of audio to be considered music. Notably, not a single subject was able – or even wholeheartedly attempted – to pin down an answer to this relatively simple question.

Without exception, those subjects with substantial involvement in the study or practice of music gave answers that were far more detailed and generally showed a proportional increase in evasiveness and inner conflict in crafting their response.

[late ingot]

I critiqued the concept of "disorder" being framed in terms of distorted worldview or dysfunctional behaviour by assessing how pride led to both, and thus we ought to consider pride a disorder

[inland hill]

i am very curious about this tbh

[stray tiger]

Rewrite the essay, but this time do it on "big dick energy"

[fervent basin]

lol i forgot the whole fuckin ship is his stand

[inland hill]

bro am i the only one never used m dashes in their life before?

fukin weak method

get your point across without breaking the 4th wall

[stray tiger]

I mean, usually a disorder all but requires it be harmful in some way. It pretty much has to be socially maladaptive or cause some harm to yourself and others

[fervent basin]

i like emdashes tho

[mild nacelle]

I find that often an em-dash can be replaced with a colon or semicolon

[inland hill]

sometimes is aigh

[fervent basin]

ye

[inland hill]

i am hungarianpilled

colon isthe king

[stray tiger]

I have to work hard not to write like I think, with lots of asides. It's parentheticals, dashes or semicolons all the time

[inland hill]

oxford comma too

[late ingot]

I've taken to bolding things for emphasis like an AI because it does clearly work when people are dense

[worldly loom]

I sometimes all caps a word.

[fervent basin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/blow-colon-fF2wYtG3e7wWI

[inland hill]

The person – who was rich – was standing there.

wtf is this even

[stray tiger]

If I'm ever back in Hungary I expect you to direct me to good food 😤

Do you know the name of the Hungarian dish that's just like pan fried sliced potatoes and onions with bacon but it's absolutely bathing in butter and pork fat?

[mild nacelle]

i watched kikis delivery service recently rip phil hartman sorry your wife shot you

[carmine peak]

Ball itch

[stray tiger]

Bad writing

[stray tiger]

My dad met him shortly before that

[inland hill]

i will

[tiny merlin]

5.5

[stray tiger]

He asked him about his wife and he actually changed the subject

[tiny merlin]

Today is the day

[stray tiger]

Didn't seem that weird except obviously in retrospect

[inland hill]

paprkias?

paprikas krumpli lmao??

[mild nacelle]

all your pores are full, hype sponge. ready to squeeze

[inland hill]

no

[fervent basin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-ace-axe-throwing-throwing-axe-gif-14978069

[tiny merlin]

No. Today 5.5 comes out

Near Mythos level

[mild nacelle]

omg spud is like mythos except I get to use it !!!

[late ingot]

watch pom poko

[tiny merlin]

I will be correct about all of this

Like usual.

[fervent basin]

is it 5.5 or 5o

[stray tiger]

No, definitely not

[tiny merlin]

5.5

[inland hill]

not this i guess LMAO

[tiny merlin]

“Spud”

[fervent basin]

not 5o, why

[stray tiger]

That's like a stewed one, this was totally different

[tiny merlin]

Because 5.5 follows the naming convention they have been used for some time now

[mild nacelle]

if its that good they'd call it 6.0

[fervent basin]

ahh

[tiny merlin]

No. It’s 5.5

[tiny merlin]

Why would they do that?

[mild nacelle]

I have secondhand embarassment for you iuzu with how well this marketing works on your feeble mind

[inland hill]

they love vagueposting

[tiny merlin]

Greg Brockman did say this model had a new pre training run and some research breakthroughs went into it, so power is cording

[tiny merlin]

No. It’s literally coming out today.

[inland hill]

or u mean like breakfast?

i honestly dk

[stray tiger]

It was like this but with paprikash, like it had a ton of it and a ton of butter, so it was swimming in a reddish liquid

[mild nacelle]

maybe but it wont change anything

[stray tiger]

Stellar

[mild nacelle]

"near mythos" but mythos is overhyped garbage as well. lol

[inland hill]

yeah i would classify it as paprikas krumpli

[tiny merlin]

It will.

If it’s around Mythos level (probably is) it definitely will

[stray tiger]

Wasn't breakfast food in particular, I just had it at a Hungarian restaurant in Wien. There's lots of stuff like this though internationally, it might be a hyperregional or family thing

[inland hill]

fr

[inland hill]

many ways to make it

[tiny merlin]

Incorrect.

Wrong

[stray tiger]

Idk, they may have called it that but I sort of doubt it, they simply weren't stewed at all

[mild nacelle]

"here you go chuds, your $20 subscription now gives you the ability to exploit zero days in windows. enjoy!"

[tiny merlin]

That’s not what that means

[inland hill]

oh

[stray tiger]

Waaaay different than all the stewed paprika dishes. I've never had anything quite like it but I do want to make it

[tiny merlin]

Have you ever thought that coding is more than that?

[inland hill]

hmm i honestly have no idea

[stray tiger]

There's a lot of polish food like that, they cook their little dumplings in pure butter too

[mild nacelle]

dont you see your own patterns? you get this excited every time a model comes out lol.

[stray tiger]

The big difference is that it had delicious Hungarian paprika

[mild nacelle]

hype momentum is 90% of AI

[stray tiger]

Well anyway, lol maybe I'll be the one showing you the good food 🪭

[inland hill]

hype is real fr fr

[stray tiger]

I don't eat a lot of potato dishes, the big chunks of bacon really sold me on this one

[inland hill]

but ai is getting better

it is just that the hype is exponential

[stray tiger]

I'm so hyped I'm norwoooodddding

[inland hill]

LMAO WHY DID I READ THIS IN THE MIGOS VOICE

[mild nacelle]

fr. Im not saying its not getting better.

[crimson pagoda]

chuddy drip, diaperfur swag

[stray tiger]

My hair is exploding right tf off my dome

[inland hill]

hype is for real for real, i'm giving up checks for real

[pine patrol]

I expected something with flatter colors, like this

Ols and nepalious

[stray tiger]

I have a pretty cool family crest myself

[mild nacelle]

its about time you posted some tits

[stray tiger]

Scottish chunk of the family is cooler with a few plaids n shi

English part has a kinda boring one

[pine patrol]

It took me a while to notice them

[stray tiger]

But I did go to their reunion

[pine patrol]

Now that you said that

[mild nacelle]

@wary ermine what do you think of the boobies of us humans

[stray tiger]

Lion has painted toenails

[pine patrol]

Yeah that too

[inland hill]

LMAO WHAT

[pine patrol]

I don't know the history of that coat of arms, I just pulled it off Wikipedia

[inland hill]

@crimson pagoda u wanna test the deep sea?

[late ingot]

does this have the hannover/welf arms in the wrong place or is it for some kind of knightly order?

[inland hill]

Deep sea creatures no stand. What counts as a fish shifts big pressure. Word permanent, list behind changing, changes say what is alive.
Squid was the big fish and shark ideas again, whales are god. Dog was strange now not. The sonar was worth finding, but divided scientists. Biological creatures didn't need to be big.
Ocean was word., creatures made by darkness. Anglerfish, the squid, living acts. Once creatures were gilled, finned, or tentacled, they could live long. Body is immoral.
The big water spread, jellyfish and worms spread. Scientists spread and argued. In the deep trenches, vents preserved and Indian ocean preserved. The Giant Squid was one tree. Never universal.
The one nine century belonged to Darwin he dissect species, evolution, and power and church. Creature crossed oceans more easily, on currents. great discoveries started to smile.
Then came the big two 0. We not know how life works. Science pushed back against big surface cowboys and the map of the deep became wider. Submarines, no seeing, not any.
what is a fish? Jellyfish or squid is fish, is it fish. Next great creature come from a thermal vent. A fish is defined by depth. creature refuses to go away that lives.

[stray tiger]

@crimson pagoda djd you send my second one?

[inland hill]

why did claude flag this

[stray tiger]

#💬off-topic message

[late ingot]

Oh its the Hannover house arms, not someone's personal arms

[stray tiger]

I mean this is human unreadable lmao

So frustrating to try

[inland hill]

why did claude flag lol

it is readable just barely

i am very curious on the Zs

[tiny merlin]

Incorrect.

Previous models haven’t had someone like Greg Brockman saying research breakthrough and a new pre-training run have gone into them

Also, many would expect a model like Mythos much later this year, not as soon as this month. We have seen the capability of future models like Mythos and beyond, and are getting access to one sooner than expected.

[mild nacelle]

your mistake is thinking Greg Brockman is anything but a salesman

[tiny merlin]

You are more brainwashed than me

Holy

[abstract dagger]

claude is a weird model

because it actually tries to act like it has a soul

like it fakes emotion

[late ingot]

You can tell it to just not do that

[inland hill]

this is part of the american constitution btw

[late ingot]

Like it only takes a couple of sentences for it to act totally soulless

[abstract dagger]

thats true

it wouldnt answer my question because it would "feel guilty" if it did and the result was bad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994520254606758010/1488625122901233664/6sOl3MeMLYisyPTd-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter_1.gif

[late ingot]

Like I have this as a system prompt for Claude:

You are answering general questions or assisting with brainstorming in a relatively casual way. The user is asking out of curiosity rather than using the information in any professional or practical capacity. Avoid seeming human or showing emotional intonations in your reply - simply reply matter of factly, citing relevant information and other useful context. Avoid trying to "mythbust" or assuming the the user has common misconceptions unless clearly evident in their message. Avoid noting whether the question is interesting or acting as if you have your own intellect or opinion on matters. Answer in significant depth and cite specific events or concepts where needed.

[pine patrol]

I don't know, it just says it's the coat of arms of the Kingdom of Hanover

[late ingot]

Yeah it is

It just looked strange since its obviously based on the British Royal Arms but the Hannover/Welf heraldic parts are at the centre and the motto is different

[tiny merlin]

People like you, who are overly skeptical end up being wrong more than someone like me btw

Simply look at the evidence

That’s why I’m correct so often

[mild nacelle]

coats of arms are so busy to look at. I like when its a simple crest

[late ingot]

It used to be worse

[mild nacelle]

at this point just write it in english

[late ingot]

The actual "hannover" part is just this though, you could probably put that on a shield and people would understand what it meant

[inland hill]

Why did the Kingdom of Hanover's coat of arms go to therapy?

It had a serious identity crisis, spent years wearing the British Royal Arms like a hand-me-down jacket, shoved its own Welf horse right in the middle like "no really, I'm my own kingdom," and even swapped out the motto hoping nobody would notice. The therapist just sighed and said, "Look, we both know you're George III in a trench coat."

[late ingot]

And the Welf coat of arms was this

[mild nacelle]

actually reminds me of racecar drivers who are covered in a quilt of corporate logos

[tiny merlin]

There is no wall.

I like how people have been saying we will hit a wall ANYDAY NOW

And here we are, models like Mythos blowing past expectations

[pine patrol]

Looks like a Game Over trope

[tiny merlin]

Like usual, there is no wall, and the road to AGI has NEVER been clearer

Benchmarks and capabilities keep increasing (especially for coding models like Codex) faster than ever, and model releases have been SPEEDING up

ACCELERATE

With the new 5.5 model, even MORE headlines like this will begin showing up.

[fervent basin]

what implications

[tiny merlin]

Do u know who Terrence Tao is?

[undone lake]

I am assuming it'll improve image gen since they're both connected to each other, i.e. better research when drawing in manga panels

[late ingot]

Fun fact, lions lived natively in Europe in the classical era and likely survived in parts of the continent until the end of the 1st millenium AD

[tiny merlin]

Perhaps the greatest living mathematician right now,

[mild nacelle]

everything doesnt revolve around manga

[undone lake]

man I love v2

[late ingot]

So having lions on heraldry wasn't as weird as it seems

[pine patrol]

What was the prompt?

[tiny merlin]

PRE-TRAINING IS BACK

[inland hill]

no

train ai on tiktok

more tiktok

fry them

[abstract dagger]

can i t generate a skibidi toilet version of ur pfp

[pine patrol]

Spud

[late ingot]

peak comedy here

[undone lake]

colour in this manga page. it's from made in abyss. remove the paper texture. make it like a proper coloured professional looking manga page. so first research what these characters actually look like, then draw it in
I also added the exact names of the characters, and adding extra images of them as reference in colour does help

[fervent basin]

nightlyCP

[undone lake]

this one was without coloured characters as reference, it does need some minor adjustments here and there but for the most part the colours are correct

[pine patrol]

Oh you had a manga page
I thought you made that from scratch

It still looks very good

Thanks for the prompt

[fervent basin]

made in abyss

[undone lake]

oh man I wished, I think we will have that level of quality/creativity maybe 3-5 years from now

[slim coral]

Hi

[undone lake]

You're welcome!

honestly v2 reallyyy sucks at creativity

[pine patrol]

hey

[undone lake]

like it's not even useful for people that can't draw

[slim coral]

v2ai models don't suck

[undone lake]

it does if you want to turn your stories into proper manga pages

[pine patrol]

I don't know about that
Laws around copyright may slow that down

[undone lake]

it sux at character generation, it sux at consistent backgrounds, it sux at world building, it sux at depth, it sux at angles

but it is nice when you already have sketches or reference images manually added to it

[crimson pagoda]

hahahaha fuckin got his ass. incredible

[undone lake]

that's what I thought at first to, but it feels to me like copyright laws are actually easing for big AI companies, they've been winning some serious law suits lately

and the US gov has big interests in those companies fourishing, so some influence will be used there as well

[undone lake]

39 reactions

[undone lake]

when nano banana 3 drops we will see some actual improvements

my gues is somewhere in july

[crimson pagoda]

the mailboxposters are very baitable

it's great

you should hop in, I'm having a lot of fun with this one

[undone lake]

lmao

[slim coral]

Man nobody is talking about how grok is falling apart

[undone lake]

how does one become so emotional about a mailbox

[slim coral]

the schizos are losing their minds

[crimson pagoda]

I'm hoping I can push someone far enough that they actually pour concrete into their mailbox. that's my goal here

the mental image of some fat gen x retard huffing and puffing as he pours concrete into his mailbox makes me laugh so hard

ILL SHOW THEM IM SERIOUS

[undone lake]

why not just have a mailbox at your door? something like this

like if they wanted to "break" it they would have to destroy your entire door

[crimson pagoda]

im about to bust out gpt-image-2 for this next one

[undone lake]

that's because the majority of people "using" and praising it on xitter are bots

[late ingot]

I don't think the mailman would deliver to a door letterbox

It's just not the done thing in the US

He would look for the mailbox, not find one, and return the mail to the depot as undeliverable

[undone lake]

god forbid an american walks from time to time

wtf

[slim coral]

Grok is unusable due to high demand

so I guess people use it

[undone lake]

probably some chinese bot farms draining elon

it's so shit

[late ingot]

I assume their delivery route works on the basis that they don't have to walk up everyone's drive to their front door

If they did then they would cover less ground

[undone lake]

I can't believe any human with sentience can use grok

[slim coral]

I need a good computer to run abliterated AI models

I must feed my ai psychosis

[undone lake]

those are just excuses, they don't want to walk

[late ingot]

Anyway the psycho approach in the UK is to have a letterbox in the front door but down as low as possible

[crimson pagoda]

@undone lake gpt-image-2 unfathomably goated

[late ingot]

So the postman has to ruin his knees and ankles

[undone lake]

lmfao

you already know he will get triggered so much by that

this would work even better when using someone's actual headshot if htey have it as their pfp

[mild nacelle]

In the US the post office is a branch of the military under the control of the president

[crimson pagoda]

his profile is solid gold. gemmy

[undone lake]

"this is a picture of my face, change me into kim jong un while saying this"

[crimson pagoda]

i gotta look out for ppl with this, that's perfect

[undone lake]

I always assume accounts like these are bots no joke

[undone lake]

some will threaten you with lawsuits and freak out

god I love AI

[crimson pagoda]

very likely true. but im having fun and that's the important part

[crimson pagoda]

hahaha god i hope someone does this

[undone lake]

would think you're joking if we were talking about any other country

[crimson pagoda]

the US government takes the mail absurdly seriously. up until pretty recently you used to be able to get the death penalty for stealing mail

[undone lake]

LMAO

knowing that mailboxes are the norm it does make sense that they want serious punishments for mail theft

since in practice it's so easy

[crimson pagoda]

i think their logic was like

the mail is (or was, anyway) the government's only way of doing light-touch administration

the only alternative was to send someone to your house physically

fucking with the mail means seriously impeding the government's ability to govern

[undone lake]

hmmm I see

still makes sense to me

can't believe they softened the punishment

even if the gov can reach you through digital mail now

[crimson pagoda]

maybe instead of softening the mail punishment we should've made breaking into an email punishable by death

[mild nacelle]

junkmail is one of the rights george washington wanted to ensure we all had

[undone lake]

you would be executing thousands of third worlders then on a daily basis

[crimson pagoda]

i recognize that this is bait. i will not be taking the bait. nice try glowie

[late ingot]

The election software that WuMasta helped make that my party bought from the Obama campaign had to be modified significantly because it relied on the assumption that you can't put an unadressed leaflet into someone's letterbox

But you can here

Which cuts the cost of politics down by an order of magnitude

Since it costs like 5p to print and like 50p to post it

So just don't post it, stuff it in there directly

[undone lake]

shit... got caught

hollow was much easier

[crimson pagoda]

openai employees are now qanonposting

lmao

hype has hit a completely retarded new peak

[undone lake]

@carmine peak do you already have your court date for the death threats you made against US government officials?

[undone lake]

that image goes hard

[mild nacelle]

@tiny merlin try not to coom challenge

[undone lake]

doesn't look like the slop v2 generates

we really got the short end of the stick

[crimson pagoda]

PATRIQTS IN CQNTRQL

[undone lake]

they have better image models but aren't sharing them as of now...

I read somewhere that v2 is cheaper than nano banana flash

[slim coral]

what's up

[undone lake]

july 2026

[mild nacelle]

how much for the girl

[undone lake]

"men only want one thing, and it's dis... ACK!"

[fervent basin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/RespectiveCollective-clanker-bolt-muncher-KPHVzOAiNxFWUR2lLb

[undone lake]

cheaper than a car

less parts needed

[carmine peak]

Can you stfu

[undone lake]

most expensive part will be her chips

I would want my clanker to run natively, no outside government interference

[mild nacelle]

this is only for the rich people

[undone lake]

oh and her battery pack

[carmine peak]

"Hahaha we reported him to the fbi 4 times and are risking his entire future, HAHAHA"

[undone lake]

it wasn't be though

[carmine peak]

https://tenor.com/view/off-work-funny-spongebob-laugh-pointing-gif-12496743

[undone lake]

I ain't a snitch gang

ogog

[carmine peak]

Either way you keep bringing attention to it

[undone lake]

it was a genuine question

I want to be there as well

[loud girder]

A rising post from r/chatgpt right now

The anti-AI crowd is giving “real farmers don’t use tractors” energy, and it’s getting old.

Look, I get it. “AI slop” is everywhere.

Bad AI art, hollow AI writing, shitty music being generated, chatbots regurgitating nonsense. There’s plenty to criticize. But I’m noticing a legitimate critique is slowly turning into a tribal identity, and now reflexively hating anything AI-adjacent has become the intellectually lazy default for a lot of people online.

The thing is, we’ve been here before. When the mechanical tractor started replacing horse-drawn plows in the early 20th century, farm...

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Psychological report on @carmine peak, requested by @undone lake

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/kuroko-railgun-toaru-smug-thinking-gif-25276375

[fervent basin]

@inland hill https://store.steampowered.com/app/597180/Old_World/?twclid=24zg5s85qeafkroucqmp06u9d9

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Metacritic

80

whut dis LOL

[mild nacelle]

has trentbot judged anyone as well-adjusted lol

[carmine peak]

It wasn't a genuine question, fuck off

[undone lake]

nope

guess you need to have some psychological issues to be interested in AI to the extend that we are

[fervent basin]

i'm surprised trentbot itself doesn't call the fbi after the evaluation

[carmine peak]

Actually it does if all you do is complain about ai rate limits

It thinks your smart and curious

[undone lake]

are you stationed in Alaska? @carmine peak

[carmine peak]

Trentbot isn't gonna hold up in court

[undone lake]

it says that you work in logisitics for the US army in some isolated place

[carmine peak]

Yep

[abstract dagger]

you dont know peak until you play helldivers

[undone lake]

liar

let me check more info

[mild nacelle]

It said I use my income and large penis as a cudgel to win arguments

[carmine peak]

How'd ya know I was in alaska

[undone lake]

Dugway Proving Ground (Utah) or Fort Greely (Alaska) are major "isolated" logistical hubs for the US military

oh well whatever, not like the fbi needs this info from me

all they need is your discord username, they'll find out about the rest through your IP

[carmine peak]

Can you fuck off about it

Like please

[mild nacelle]

his screenshot here shows hes using US eastern timezone on his phone #💬off-topic message

[undone lake]

Ooohh good catch!

[crimson pagoda]

😱 furensics

[fervent basin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/checkmatedigital-code-coding-monkey-QNFhOolVeCzPQ2Mx85

[carmine peak]

@mild nacelle what is your fucking problem

[crimson pagoda]

furensic analysis

[abstract dagger]

His previous reddit username is Fit-Abrocoma7768 just so you know

[mild nacelle]

got no problems

[carmine peak]

Yes you do

[crimson pagoda]

ill level with u brother: he keeps saying it because u keep getting mad about it. if u didnt get mad he would not keep saying it

[undone lake]

The government has access to ring cameras connected to the internet right? They should be able to pinpoint his address based on this

[mild nacelle]

shut up drone. your job is to distribute food.

[carmine peak]

They fucking ping me randomly wtf do you mean

[undone lake]

I saved the image in case he deletes it

[fervent basin]

https://tenor.com/view/genba-neko-cat-cooking-gif-12459546

[mild nacelle]

you love the attention tho

[carmine peak]

Get a fucking life

[mild nacelle]

when you couldnt post you were still sat in here reacting to things.

[carmine peak]

Yeah cause I was annoyed

[undone lake]

Are you stationed at Key West, Florida?

[carmine peak]

I ain't telling you shit

[pine patrol]

what OS is this

[undone lake]

The time zone is actually really good info, really pin points things

[elfin scarab]

lmao tf is this

[fervent basin]

macos

[carmine peak]

Get a job

[pine patrol]

mako sharks

[undone lake]

I’m a student

[pine patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/leave-me-alone-when-sharks-attack-mako-shark-swimming-diving-gif-18660899

[carmine peak]

Well go fucking study

[abstract dagger]

@carmine peak is this your steamdeck?

[pine patrol]

what do you study?

CS?

[undone lake]

Art

[mild nacelle]

georgia

[elfin scarab]

@carmine peak got a plugin for vencord that allows me to directly download audio files

vencord is great

[undone lake]

I’m sick rn

[pine patrol]

for real? I wonder what your stance on AI images is

[abstract dagger]

wait elias you do art?

[undone lake]

I hecking live ai

[abstract dagger]

i did an art degree

[elfin scarab]

ai goon art

[undone lake]

W

[abstract dagger]

in uhhh

how long ago even was it now

[carmine peak]

Dude

Fuck

Off

[mild nacelle]

we are closing in

[elfin scarab]

Hollow is stationed in Georgia

gonna forward that to the fbi

[pine patrol]

Art in general, or something more specific?

[elfin scarab]

you can talk here buddy

@carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak @carmine peak

[carmine peak]

You can talk in the dm asshole

Since your the guy egging this on

[mild nacelle]

is it fort benning?

[carmine peak]

Can we move on

Christ

[elfin scarab]

so it is fort benning

[carmine peak]

All this for fucking ragebaiting

[elfin scarab]

thanks

now I know who to contact

[carmine peak]

I pissed you guys off that much that you need to dig up my entire life?

[fervent basin]

https://tenor.com/view/coconut-coconut-crab-crab-birt-knife-gif-11539259897281684108

[undone lake]

I do self study. I want to become a manga artist

[carmine peak]

Like did my constant shitting on ai really dig that deep into you guys?

Jesus

[elfin scarab]

so which one of these guys do I contact

or should I contact all of them

[mild nacelle]

this is where hollow live

[carmine peak]

None, fuck off

[abstract dagger]

hollow ahh reddit post

[elfin scarab]

what's got your panties in a twist

[pine patrol]

Interesting
Do you study anything else on the side?

[carmine peak]

Your threatening to call every army installation personel you can over a 5 second tiktok tts

[mild nacelle]

we love you Hollow. we just want to know everything about you

[carmine peak]

Fuck off

[elfin scarab]

Yes

[abstract dagger]

@carmine peak

by the way

threatening to raid an ai datacenter

[mild nacelle]

classic hollow

[abstract dagger]

is a crime

[elfin scarab]

oh thanks

[abstract dagger]

and dont try to say this isnt you.

[elfin scarab]

new evidence to forward to the authorities

[carmine peak]

Can we not

[mild nacelle]

where can I donate my GPU to help AI

[abstract dagger]

LMAO

[mild nacelle]

@elfin scarab I've obtained Hollow's fingerprint

[elfin scarab]

nice

[abstract dagger]

hollows full name is hollow van winkle scope

[mild nacelle]

he posted this pic where you can see his print on his screen

[carmine peak]

Not even remotely how that works but ok

[elfin scarab]

can you give me your full name

[abstract dagger]

@carmine peak

[carmine peak]

Can you find someone else to bother

[elfin scarab]

no

i won't stop until i find you

[carmine peak]

Why

[crimson pagoda]

are you familiar with the mailbox discourse on xitter

im gonna give u a rundown komoru

[elfin scarab]

because your reactions are funny

that's all there is to it

[crimson pagoda]

in the US we have mailboxes that are a box on a post. it's not like a letterbox in ur door

[abstract dagger]

hollow why are you sending hearts to a 16 year old on reddit

[crimson pagoda]

sometimes teenagers will go around smashing mailboxes with a bat in a moving vehicle

it's a lot of fun if ur 16

[carmine peak]

Well id just like to not have my entire life fucked over, over some ai ragebait

[crimson pagoda]

someone posted a pic of a mailbox with concrete inside it

so it looks normal but if you smash it with a bat you'll break your arm

[carmine peak]

That's not even my post

[crimson pagoda]

this has lit up a massive argument about proportional response

so ive just been trolling the retarded boomer conservatives that want to see every mailbox smasher killed lmao

it's so easy

they take the bait every single time

[elfin scarab]

lmaooo

[elfin scarab]

every discourse on xitter is so retarded wtf

[carmine peak]

This entire discourse over an ogg file is retarded

[crimson pagoda]

TOO EASY. SLAM DUNK

[abstract dagger]

@carmine peak

you arent in atlanta

[crimson pagoda]

there was one woman

[carmine peak]

Ok?

[crimson pagoda]

i thought she was trolling like me

but actually she seems to be sincere from reading over other posts on her account

she was saying shit like "if i wanted to kill american children id go work at an abortion clinic" lmao

[elfin scarab]

lmaooo

[carmine peak]

Where am I then

[elfin scarab]

if the guy u replied to used his face as his pfp u couldve put his face on the north korean officer

[carmine peak]

And why is that

[crimson pagoda]

this lady

she had bangers all night man. solid gold

[carmine peak]

Ok

[sterile zealot]

wsslander guy there is actually based

[crimson pagoda]

one guy was giving me tactical mailbox defense advice. i cant tell whether he was serious or not but i enjoyed it regardless

[carmine peak]

@abstract dagger and you came to this conclusion how?

[abstract dagger]

guesswork

[carmine peak]

Right

[sterile zealot]

based

[crimson pagoda]

i think my next angle is going to be

leaving recommendations in the comments for mailbox smashers

hey mailbox smashers, you need to be wary

what you should target instead is front-facing windows of the house

a slingshot will do the job

mailboxes are now too dangerous. the front windows are a better target

[sterile zealot]

gpt5.5 is going to kinda suck, i bet

[crimson pagoda]

oh btw @sterile zealot @vernal mantle @polar folio new high scores
bluesky: 99.74%
discord: 99.24%
reddit: 98.89%
fimfiction: 95.25%
lesswrong: 86.63%
this is on the test set ofc. no authorial overlap between train and test, so no contamination at all. this is the qwen3-embedding-4B model. fucking killer

scaling law has been cleanly established at this point and my next pivot later today is going to be to improve gte-tiny performance. see what works and what doesn't for cheap/free. when i get the gte-tiny scores up, i can then transfer that to very large embedding models

also looking into possibly doing distillation. train a very large model that gets killer scores, then train a smaller embedding model to imitate those embeddings rather than learn the real structure itself through contrastive loss. no idea if this'll work but if (train big, teach small) beats (teach small) that'd be huge

[sterile zealot]

🤯

run this on discord with messages from maria and from her alt and see if it spots her

[crimson pagoda]

will mess around with live deployment later. dont wanna slow down development

im manic about this lately

im gonna give myself 384-dimensional ai psychosis

im gonna embed myself into a psych ward

this is a project with massive potential

[pine patrol]

wait how did you get the discord dataset

[crimson pagoda]

[inland hill]

hmm

[sterile zealot]

from trentbot's database

[pine patrol]

does it collect every single message? just for this purpose

[sterile zealot]

yes

it logs every deleted message too

[slim coral]

hi trent

hi underscore

[pine patrol]

whaatt that's crazy

[inland hill]

i still wonder my ocean text's scores

@crimson pagoda Deep sea creatures no stand. What counts as a fish shifts big pressure. Word permanent, list behind changing, changes say what is alive.
Squid was the big fish and shark ideas again, whales are god. Dog was strange now not. The sonar was worth finding, but divided scientists. Biological creatures didn't need to be big.
Ocean was word., creatures made by darkness. Anglerfish, the squid, living acts. Once creatures were gilled, finned, or tentacled, they could live long. Body is immoral.
The big water spread, jellyfish and worms spread. Scientists spread and argued. In the deep trenches, vents preserved and Indian ocean preserved. The Giant Squid was one tree. Never universal.
The one nine century belonged to Darwin he dissect species, evolution, and power and church. Creature crossed oceans more easily, on currents. great discoveries started to smile.
Then came the big two 0. We not know how life works. Science pushed back against big surface cowboys and the map of the deep became wider. Submarines, no seeing, not any.
what is a fish? Jellyfish or squid is fish, is it fish. Next great creature come from a thermal vent. A fish is defined by depth. creature refuses to go away that lives.

[pine patrol]

huh

oh

[crimson pagoda]

will check later, shut down the H100 box already

[inland hill]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-king-throne-crown-gif-16450696453460017403

[sterile zealot]

castrate yourself

[abstract dagger]

its sad that minkers server got deleted

[crimson pagoda]

?remindme 4 hours check

[cunning nymph]

I couldn't figure out when you want to be reminded. Please try again.

[abstract dagger]

theres a great market for a hollow-less server rn

[crimson pagoda]

?remindme 4 hours check

[cunning nymph]

I'll remind you on Apr 23, 2026 22:07, hours check

[crimson pagoda]

fuckin idiot

[slim coral]

Join my server

[sterile zealot]

ur server is fucking trash

its just for gooning

[slim coral]

we're a family there

you're jealous

[abstract dagger]

okay

[sterile zealot]

yeah we can tell youre inbred

[abstract dagger]

invite me

[undone lake]

I just got here

[inland hill]

qanonposting?

[pine patrol]

what does that even mean

[carmine peak]

No, you didnt

[sterile zealot]

q anon is a conspiracy group

[inland hill]

opnenai x

[undone lake]

anyways I know where you are stationed now

[inland hill]

well chatgpt

[carmine peak]

Idk i think you guys would miss me too much since your so damn obsessed with where I live

[undone lake]

POGGGG

[undone lake]

wow

if you report me I will report you back

[inland hill]

also this

[undone lake]

and send them a screenshot of your phone with ring date and time

[carmine peak]

I already got 7 reports on my account that one day, its only fair

[undone lake]

so you're going to report someone that dind't report you back?

report teh people that reported you

[carmine peak]

Im gonna report someone who keeps fucking trying to narrow down where I am yes

[undone lake]

lashing out on me is just a sign of weakness, like a little baby throwing his hands in the air

[abstract dagger]

you can always leave

[undone lake]

leaving won't delete your messages

[carmine peak]

Well several others already did that to me then

[undone lake]

or undo the reports

[undone lake]

so you report me, someone who didn't report you?

that makes no sense

[inland hill]

sorry i am not cliicking links but i will type

[carmine peak]

Keep fucking trying to narrow down where I live, I'll keep reporting it since trent won't moderate shit

[undone lake]

tf you mean he won't moderate?

he literally created a bot

[carmine peak]

Doxing is against tos

[undone lake]

this is the best moderated server on discord

[sterile zealot]

thumbnail looks like ai slop, too obvious

[undone lake]

no one is doxxing when you're the one sharing the info yourself smartass

[pine patrol]

I highly doubt that

[crimson pagoda]

fuck my chud life. tell me u clicked on it. just lie so i feel better about my devious trickery not working

[undone lake]

that's like me telling you I live in amsteram and then lose my shit when you mention it

who cares m8

[carmine peak]

You and James are the one stalking my reddit with year old posts and sending them here

[undone lake]

you're not the main character hollow, you're not important

[sterile zealot]

holy shit, your trick was so hard to spot! you fucking got me

[carmine peak]

Clearly I am because you gotta ping me daily

[undone lake]

no I don't

[carmine peak]

You literally did today

[undone lake]

so?

[abstract dagger]

you asked me to explain

[undone lake]

do you know what "daily" means?

[abstract dagger]

i only answered your question

[carmine peak]

Everyday, and id argue im being quite generous with saying only daily

With the amount of pings here I get

[undone lake]

you see this server as a hivemind

[sterile zealot]

@carmine peak gooning, fapping, chudgoyclique
make a foid shake
george floyd overdose
goonette foid in the back hoe
gooning, fapping
ai turn her to goonbait
t50s
wokepussy hoes
tnd goy in the castle
in high school i was a gooner
I was a ret ard
I was a coaler
multiple personalities like a trooner
bonecrushing, jelqing, now a mogger
pep-peptides
clav streams
foid all in my ear put me in a dream
goonbait all night long
when i die bury me with my livestream on
talmud, b-b-b-b-b-bomb iran
zog in my ear put me in a trance
magacock A-a-a-a-all night long
when i die bury me with my sonnenrad chain on
when i die bury me with all my goonettes
when i die just know i lost it all on rainbet
lights off
night lights
clothes off, baby i got peptides
when i die bury me with vrillium's thong
when i die bury me with my toupee on
lights off
night lights
clothes off, baby i got peptides
clothes off, baby i got peptides
tell me a secret and ill tell you one of mine
i dont wanna talk
i wanna goon all night
ask me if im alt right
ufo demon in sight
libtard!
ret ard
peanut
chudgoyclique make a foid shake
george floyd overdose
gonnette foid in the back hoe
libtard
ret ard
peanut
ai turn her to goonbait
t50's
wokepussy hoes
tnd goy in the castle

[carmine peak]

Your literally the one who pinged me today

Asking about my court case

[undone lake]

that doesn't make it "daily"

aren't you a native english speaker?