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lost jetty
green crystal
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voice uses the old 4o model not 5.5

lost jetty
lost jetty
green crystal
dull grove
green crystal
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even 5.3 is much better than 4o
which you have if you're using the free version

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5.5 is paid tier only for now

lost jetty
# lost jetty

but still!

how can it be so confident in it's hallucination ... that it doesn't even understand user's sarcasm/irony

even the user is giving correct info ... but it didn't catch it 😕

green crystal
lost jetty
fast spade
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I might be stupid but what is an API Key?

Is it useful?

inner basalt
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Is there a way to use perplexity in visual studio? The extension has 1 star

gloomy cipher
high rover
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Hello

lost jetty
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and on PC it's just auto
or
gpt 5.4 (flagship model), as they keep flashing it everytime ... in every chat

tranquil orchidBOT
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success @aer0099 muted

Reason: 9. No spamming.
Duration: 4 minutes and 50 seconds

tame frost
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hello, how limited is deep research for pro users now? few months ago I had like 500 uses per month, now it's down to like 1 per day?

heavy mantle
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yo guys i'm new here and i have a quick question

heavy mantle
tame frost
heavy mantle
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i didn't know that

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i rgought it's unlimited

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but my question is the perplexity discord connectors the bot one and the regular one what they do

rancid dome
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This morning, Perplexity PRO on Mac OS wiped out all the Spaces I had created and had been running for several months. It's very frustrating and disappointing. Has this happened to any of you? How can I restore those Spaces? Thanks!

heavy mantle
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no shot

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is perplexity that bad

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i just started using it and i see so much negativity from the userbase

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i probably should switch to claude or something geez

tame frost
heavy mantle
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click on the link on his massige

tame frost
heavy mantle
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why

tame frost
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capitalism is not for the people brother

heavy mantle
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like i made my own ai and i was like api costs are too high and switched to perplexity cuz it essentually does the same thing but for cheeper

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i added perplexity sonar via an api

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should i return back

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but computer is really cool dou

heavy mantle
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yeah why?

tame frost
bold karma
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perplexity has been going downhill

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so fast it is mindblowing how bad they are becoming

heavy mantle
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meh with the right skills it's pretty good

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heavy mantle
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right ourcestration

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i probably miss spelled that

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anyway

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what does that even mean

heavy mantle
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i created a python script

bold karma
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u mean with perplexity computer?

heavy portal
heavy mantle
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that essentually chains groq apis perplexity sonnar and claude 4,6 sonnet together

bold karma
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you burn through all credits

heavy mantle
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yeah that's why i switched to perplexity

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so u could spend more money?

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i dont think u get it

heavy mantle
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???

bold karma
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perplexity is expensive

tame frost
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thx @heavy portal for helping out. So Labs/Deep research combined is 20 uses a month now, right?

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using chatgpt is much cheaper

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perplexity is a scam

heavy mantle
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explain i don't get it it does it job perfectly fine

heavy portal
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heavy mantle
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computer or api

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i am a pro user and get 0 credits

heavy mantle
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computer 0

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i'm a pro user too

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but you realize that perplexity on the sidebar can do the exact same thing for no creddits

bold karma
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you are not very smart

heavy mantle
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???

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im not even gonna bother explaining

heavy mantle
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if you say so

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just for you to know i'm a student so from 22 usd it does fall down to 9 so i concider it win

bold karma
heavy mantle
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and i got 2000 computer creddits bonus witch i burned

heavy mantle
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candid wolf
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Can I look for ppl to cruise with or different channel. I’m on fh5 driving lambo sesto going fast

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the models from perplexity have tiny context windows

heavy mantle
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and what perplexity is made for reaserch

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it's not claude

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chatgpt does a better job

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and gets you much better limits

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and you can use gpt 5.5

heavy mantle
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than claude you wish

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i said chatgpt

bright vigil
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It feels illegal asking this here but after getting screwed over might as well: what's the best alternative then?

heavy mantle
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claude

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it researches very well

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claude has terrible limits

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chatgpt gives u 3000x extended thinking gpt 5.5 prompts per week

heavy mantle
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but way better reasoning and is great in context window

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about a milion

bold karma
heavy mantle
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have you tried before yapping for no reason

bright vigil
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For deep research and multi step reasoning and searching/crawl capacity - and working with big files. For academic research

bold karma
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do not listen to this other kid i promise you

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i have used everything

heavy mantle
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yah just be a sheep and use chat cuz every one does

bold karma
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with the current gpt 5.5 and their limits it is much better than claude for the price

bright vigil
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I'm listening to both of you, Im just trying to get as much info as possible

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chatgpt

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u won't regret it

bright vigil
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I do know many people switch over to claude lately because of document processing

heavy mantle
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chat is universal

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that's it's only strong side

bold karma
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you do realize claude had more subscribers than chatgpt

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so you are wrong again for the millionth time

heavy mantle
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it can do everything good but not perfect

bright vigil
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Such a shame perplexity did this

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I'm gutted

bold karma
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it really went downhill

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i loved perplexity

heavy mantle
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just stop it

heavy mantle
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but of course you don't

bright vigil
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As far as I understood chatgpt is better for all-round use and claude for programming and data handling no?

bold karma
bold karma
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gpt 5.5 came out on thursday

twin grail
heavy mantle
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honestly @bright vigil just try different ai's and see what fits

bright vigil
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Like they'll all get better guys I'm just asking if there's a solid alternative for my use case

heavy mantle
bright vigil
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Perplexity would've been perfect

bold karma
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the limits for chatgpt are practically unlimited

heavy mantle
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what do you use ai for the most @bright vigil

twin grail
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being

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cooko

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@bright vigil check dms

bright vigil
heavy mantle
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than belive it or not the best decision you can do is stick with perplexity if you wish go on dm's and i'll explain myself

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that's just my advice

bright vigil
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Of course

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That's why I'm gutted

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20 deep research limit is like

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A demo

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check your dms

heavy mantle
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why do you glaze chat this much btw

bold karma
twin grail
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updates

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is messing up everything

heavy mantle
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just in general you glaze it like i used to glaze gemini back in the day

twin grail
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even my context windows

bold karma
twin grail
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locked at 256k

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and the slash command just

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disappeared

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like it never existed

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I have no idea if that happens to u

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on their newest update

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But it happened for me

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and the reason why i haven't switch is because claude share the same quota pool for both chat and claude code

bold karma
twin grail
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that's what keeping me from using the max plan

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this is not working for you?

distant aurora
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I was able to use it for free on the app/website.

twin grail
distant aurora
twin grail
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I can't even turn on fast mode anymore

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before u say anything

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yes i did clean everything

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fresh install

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change the config

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even

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deleted everything

bold karma
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oh u are on windows

twin grail
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and reinstall it

twin grail
heavy mantle
serene sand
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sadly ai companies target mac more

twin grail
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don't get me wrong

heavy mantle
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yeah cuz the guy that mskes the hardwere and softwere is the same

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and it's easyer to optimize

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gloomy cipher
twin grail
bold karma
twin grail
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since creating app on Mac or iOS is way easier to finish

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they just publish it first

bold karma
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gemini also has mac only

twin grail
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imagine targetting into a Os where it's limited to a certain use of users

atomic cedar
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hello

twin grail
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When they can just use the PWA

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for it

bold karma
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u can do that on mac too

twin grail
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I don't see the point of glazing

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Mac here

bold karma
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im not glazing mac im stating the facts

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claude cowork came out january for mac and it came out april for windows

gloomy cipher
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Blame microslop

bold karma
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mac is unix like linux too

twin grail
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I said it above

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just because it's easier

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doesn't mean it proved companies favor Mac more

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that's totally wrong

bold karma
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chatgpt team uses mac

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that might be the reason too

twin grail
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please don't take that as a reason

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basically that's spreading fake news

bold karma
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what are you talking about

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by favor i mean they get things first

twin grail
bold karma
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prioritize then?

twin grail
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Same process, same workers

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Just faster deploy since Apple did the hard part

bold karma
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they prioritize mac there u go

twin grail
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Dude read

bold karma
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ask your perplexity do they prioritize mac

twin grail
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If u are saying about priotizing then Windows should be priotized more since they are way harder to develop and they need to focus on it more

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Ur point is wrong btw

gloomy cipher
bright vigil
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Why is everyone so uptight

gloomy cipher
bold karma
twin grail
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The release date just prove it's easier to develop

bold karma
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it's not about what they should do it's about what they did

twin grail
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Not

twin grail
bold karma
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even perplexity prioritizes mac first

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i'm not arguing over what they should do

twin grail
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" appear "

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That is

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assumption

bold karma
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oh brother

twin grail
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and u are taking a company for a whole world inc

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Dude do u even know how to cite

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or claim a fact check ?

bold karma
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look at the release dates

twin grail
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Assumption mean nothing

bold karma
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based

twin grail
bold karma
twin grail
bold karma
twin grail
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Did they announce it ?

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If not then u should stop spreading fake new

bold karma
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i've told u many times already to look at the release dates

twin grail
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and blindly trusting to some hallucinated replies

twin grail
bold karma
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yes it does?

twin grail
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There isn't any claim to that for u being developed faster so u are a better platform to be priotized

twin grail
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Do u even work ?

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Because if u did

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U wouldn't make a mistake

bold karma
twin grail
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misunderstanding 2 concepts

twin grail
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Ur value isn't enough for those

bold karma
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he buys me lots of things and takes me around the world

twin grail
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okay ur point being ?

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Because we all can do that ourself

bold karma
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yeah but it's easier for me

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i spawned rich basically

twin grail
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If u have this mindset then i have nothing to say

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<@&1098365634498285709>

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foggy fulcrum
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Is there a way to connect perpixlty to mcp

gloomy cipher
twin grail
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Gl with ur work

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i might aswell

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Head to sleep

gloomy cipher
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U2 gn

gloomy cipher
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gloomy cipher
foggy fulcrum
twin grail
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U can still do it

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but

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might took some times

foggy fulcrum
bright vigil
twin grail
gloomy cipher
twin grail
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trying to cheat in roblox ?

twin grail
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perplexicode ?

gloomy cipher
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But it may not have the command permission to do it IDK

foggy fulcrum
twin grail
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Ye u can connect mcp server to vscode

gloomy cipher
twin grail
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while the extension is working fine

gloomy cipher
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Hmm

twin grail
gloomy cipher
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If its in perplexity thread bound then you could save the thread to a space

foggy fulcrum
twin grail
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haven't updated it since

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u can update it urself

foggy fulcrum
gloomy cipher
twin grail
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my account is still alive

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and kesku knew about it

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so

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i think

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it should be good

gloomy cipher
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He is not getting paid enough

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😭

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You should sleep btw

twin grail
gloomy cipher
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Idk if you slept the morning

twin grail
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i saw him driving

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in his new car

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the other day

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On the highway

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my way

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or the highway

gloomy cipher
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Have you moved out or something?

twin grail
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might

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visit

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Berd

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and kesku soon

gloomy cipher
twin grail
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but not now

warm island
foggy fulcrum
gloomy cipher
# twin grail Berd

Imagine if he turns out to be a furry after making fun of matto all the time

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hehehe

twin grail
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u can check it

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i don't have any stealers

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or some spy thingy on it

gloomy cipher
foggy fulcrum
gloomy cipher
foggy fulcrum
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Just hope its responsive and doesnt crash every 2 seconds

twin grail
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Uhh it doesn't crash'

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the stability

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is wuite good

foggy fulcrum
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No api key is crazy tho this might not be legal 😂

twin grail
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since i've tested it myself ( yes ofc i made that extension so.. )

foggy fulcrum
gloomy cipher
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@twin grail the most berd thing that a berd would do

twin grail
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everything is in their

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there

twin grail
azure jasper
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i dont know why but i feel that sonar 2 is better than nemotron in every way, impressive

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short narwhal
brittle dagger
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Am I imagining things? The selected model keeps changing back to "Model" every time I send a query
and it doesn't tell me "Prepared by Claude". Instead it seems I'm talking to ChatGPT.

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that didn't happen yesterday. I can't work with ChatGPT, it's cognitively challenged.

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...

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I'm having ChatGPT forced on me and that's unacceptable. No Model choice sticks, it's always ChatGPT.
ChatGPT is the worst ")"§$"§$ out there, constantly insulting people without them even realizing.

Example? It literally spams me with lists and bullet points (which are not set as default),
and when I point that out, I get "you are not imagining things", which, of course I don't,
and it mentioning it is insulting and disrespectfull, regardless of people actually noticing!

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And that's not just happening when I get spammed and complain, it sneakily keeps insulting people all the time.

green crystal
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uh

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what lol

brittle dagger
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ikr?

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I can't even bring up examples, I've deleted all the convos.

green crystal
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mine is totally different
have you touched your personalization settings at all? you can have it stop using lists etc

brittle dagger
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I just want to set a model so i can continue without being forced to having to deal with chatgpt.

green crystal
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there's specific settings for it

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atleast on chatgpt itself

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on ppxl you cant

brittle dagger
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on ppxl you cant

There's settings for that.

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hold on

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Also, I have not noticed any difference between chatgpt with perplexity as middle man and chatgpt on their website.

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it's the same asshole.

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Regardless, the others don't behave the same.

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Regardless regardles ...

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...

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I just want to set the Model, but it doesn't work!

bright vigil
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Perplexity education has higher limits right?

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Is there a way to get education pro if you already have a pro subscription?

brittle dagger
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It can cancel a subscription, so it definitely can change your account.

bright vigil
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Wtf is a sam..

brittle dagger
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Sorry. That's their support AI.

bright vigil
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😭 I swear I was gone for a couple of months everything changed

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Never seen so many changes in a service before

brittle dagger
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Move fast or die, I guess.

nimble juniper
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Yoo

brittle dagger
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Anyhow, Sam should be your first approach. If you need help with that, ask Perplexity about Sam.

bright vigil
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Thank u sir I'll check it out

brittle dagger
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:)

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Now ... I still need to be able to set the model, else i can't continue my work.

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-.-

nimble juniper
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i also have pro

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How do i get pro role

brittle dagger
brittle dagger
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It's insulting and most people don't even realize.

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As if there was any question about what's happening, which there isn't.

green crystal
brittle dagger
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Borderline "not actually gaslighting."

heavy portal
edgy solar
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does anybody in here know if the student plan gives any monthly credit refills

brittle dagger
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If you don't want to believe it, that's fine, but that doesn't change that that's how it is and I'm not going to dive too deeply into it.

green crystal
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hmm its uh
kinda like an expression thing? its not literal lol

brittle dagger
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In a maybe more relatable oneliner: "How dare it imply I might just be seeing things."

brittle dagger
green crystal
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but really if you feel this here is bad then dont ever try to talk with o3 extremewheeze
that one is merciless

brittle dagger
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It exposes a lack of oversight of one's own cognitive processes.

bright vigil
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So apparently you gotta cancel your pro membership to activate education pro?

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What if I have a one year subscription already

green crystal
brittle dagger
bright vigil
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Supposed to be a different tier

brittle dagger
green crystal
brittle dagger
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I am not going to tell you I know better about what you do and you shouldn't be doing the same to me either.

brittle dagger
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fine*

green crystal
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well you're using ppxl so just switch to gemini or something then lol

brittle dagger
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Usually "best" gives me Grok, which is fine.

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Now I am not getting Grok at all.

bright vigil
green crystal
bright vigil
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Think all the subscriptions they kinda force you to buy

bright vigil
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Streaming services

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Everything

brittle dagger
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It always reverts back to "best" immediately.

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*sighs*

bright vigil
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Do u guys know?

brittle dagger
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I mean Musk.

bright vigil
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I never really gave it much thought but I tried it last month and it did make me think

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It's not a bad "feature"

brittle dagger
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Grok is actually great. Google's SearchAI is dumb, but Gemini itself (at least Thinking) is also doing well.

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Claude is amazing when it comes to self-awareness and meta-cognition.

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Nemotron .... really likes to talk a lot and really fast. lol

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and current chatgpt should be locked up and the keys thrown away.

bright vigil
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I was surprised it was decent at searching too, but really loved the supposedly "unbiased" and unfiltered answers

brittle dagger
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think of it this way: despite what the mainstream tells you, on X you have freedom of expression. you're not getting censored for not aligning with a certain ideology.

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you can't really do that on most platforms.

bright vigil
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I dont use x

brittle dagger
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i got banned for shitting on the current major of NY before he got elected, because he's just the same shit in yet another package.

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got me banned for two weeks.

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i got banned for quoting george carlin.

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just the truth.

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that was on twitch, mind.

bright vigil
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Or have much of an opinion on these matters. I do understand that it's sometimes a fine line between freedom of speech and hate speech and most companies would rather just avoid it but

brittle dagger
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soo ... that's why Grok seems less biased: it's because it doesn't have to be biased.

bright vigil
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After trying grok, If I had to make my dream AI, Id definitely include that function

brittle dagger
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hate speech

No. There is no such thing. That's the mainstreamers telling you to think that way. They define what you are allowed to say.

bright vigil
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My definition of hate speech is more in line with threat

brittle dagger
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You should not even have one.

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That's where the problem starts. People not realizing that there is no such thing.

bright vigil
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If the comment is a clear threat

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Its different

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But opinions?

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Thats a different matter

brittle dagger
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thanks for the monologue.

bright vigil
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You're welcome

brittle dagger
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hopefully some day you learn.

bright vigil
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I hope you'll read what I said too

brittle dagger
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i did.

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but it's useless, because it assumes that hate speech is a real thing, which it is not.

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it's them wanting you to believe that it is, but it hasn't been a real thing for thousands of years.

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but suddenly there's a term that allows bad people to constrain how you may speak.

bright vigil
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What are you even talking about?

brittle dagger
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and there is no point trying to talk to you, when you're incapable of actually reading and comprehending what's written.

bright vigil
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Like what does that mean to you?

brittle dagger
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i reject trying to force such an individual perspective on me.

bright vigil
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We're not obsessed with "hate speech" and racism over here

brittle dagger
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not the point.

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the point is that "hate speech" as a concept, purely for existing, restrict freedom of both thought and speech.

foggy fulcrum
bright vigil
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I thought hate speech simply means a threat based on hate

brittle dagger
twin grail
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In the folder

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U’re working

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It’s not fully coding agent

warm island
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Yall, anyone else notice Perplexity Sonar 2 is in the model selector now?

bright vigil
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I think that makes sense to me: if someome sends you letters they want to kill you That's a criminal act

brittle dagger
foggy fulcrum
bright vigil
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But if someone calls you names or say nasty stuff who cares

brittle dagger
brittle dagger
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there is no such thing as hate speech.

brittle dagger
bright vigil
warm island
brittle dagger
# bright vigil I always assumed that's what it meant

The point. There is no clear definition and everyone just thinks like you."i thought it's ..." that allows media and politicians to declare whatever they want as hate speech, giving them the ability to silence whoever they want.

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which is insane.

brittle dagger
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mine keeps going back to ""

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i keep having chatgpt forced on me.

warm island
brittle dagger
bright vigil
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Fair enough, I'm not familiar with what's going on and with all the terms

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But always eager to learn

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Dont have much people worrying about that here, yet anyway

brittle dagger
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that is roughly how it all works in general.

bright vigil
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That's the whole world at this point

brittle dagger
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yeap.

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well no

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it's a rather western problem.

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NZ, Japan, AUST included.

bright vigil
brittle dagger
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"western aligned" included.

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a

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i see.

gloomy vessel
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Any other enterprise users not have Kimi K2.6 available to turn on?

bright vigil
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But I feel like division and finding a common thing to hate is everywhere

brittle dagger
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Just look at the Epstein files.

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By now everyone should know what is really going on

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but nobody does

bright vigil
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In the western world its more like: you gotta support this or you hate babies!

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Virtue signaling ig

brittle dagger
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because they all rely on exactly those corrupt and crooked entities to nform them, because people can't think for themselves anymore.

warm island
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it litterally said "you are perplexity"

brittle dagger
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it should say "Prepared by" but doesn't.

bright vigil
warm island
brittle dagger
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ooohhh my bad, hey Perplexity!

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:D

warm island
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Im so annoyed they locked 5.5 to max

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💀

brittle dagger
warm island
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and took away Google 3 Flash.

brittle dagger
brittle dagger
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It's not about "cool", it's about mind control. They have no choice but to think about what they're kept being exposed with.

warm island
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bro said "The pope could openly be eating children"

brittle dagger
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not quite the point.

bright vigil
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He's right tho

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I mean everyone knows what they're involved in and covered up before right? But that's about it

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What can we do

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😂

brittle dagger
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"What can w do" is exactly part of the mind control. Step one: Stop talking about something else.

bright vigil
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Or here's a crazy idea: stop talking about these things in general

brittle dagger
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I would agree if that wasn't beneficial for those who want to put us into an invisible cage.

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But this isn't like how Morgan Freeman talks about racism.

bright vigil
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Just tell me when there's a solution

warm island
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Why dont yall continue this in a DM string.

bright vigil
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True😭

brittle dagger
bright vigil
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Sorry y'all

brittle dagger
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oh

warm island
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We honestly dont care, but everyones notifications are prob blowing up.

brittle dagger
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Well, at least it was something else than the usual.

brittle dagger
warm island
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Not the guys who come in "HI, I need help, my account is working" Just to realize, ohh they didn't pay. 🦖

bright vigil
brittle dagger
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:)

bright vigil
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But then I'm like everyone else, but just the opposite

brittle dagger
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..................................... we're all so doomed.

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have a good day.

bright vigil
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You too sir

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Hope you can fight for us, uneducated peasants

warm island
brittle dagger
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grats! lol

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AHAHAHAHAHA

bright vigil
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Peasant II?

brittle dagger
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okay, claude got to respond one and then "best" was forced again ...

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educated peasant.

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lol

warm island
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Brainless Idiot>Uneducated peasent

bright vigil
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😭😭

brittle dagger
#

i used to call you people "working class peasants".

warm island
#

Brutha

brittle dagger
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:D

bright vigil
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I'll take that

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Sire

brittle dagger
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nono, doesn't mean I'm a Sire.

warm island
#

What are you then? politically opininated peasent?

brittle dagger
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it has nothing to do with me at all, it's just really accurate.

bright vigil
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I'm politically uniformed peasant

brittle dagger
warm island
#

@brittle dagger Do you miss the fast models like Google 3 Flash?

brittle dagger
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never used it.

warm island
#

Whats ur go-to LLM?

brittle dagger
#

i only subbed to Pro yesterday, because i was done with constantly having chatgpt forced onto me.

warm island
#

wdym?

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Yo subd to Chat?

brittle dagger
warm island
#

Do you just use perplexity as a chatbot? Or as a tool?

brittle dagger
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i subbed to perplexity.ai yesterday. before i always used free, which ... years ago? was sonar, now is mostly grok and chatgpt.

#

my research is ... unusual.

warm island
brittle dagger
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it's not sex related, you pervert.

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though, i guess, that's inaccurate. it's been a topic for a month, actually.

bright vigil
#

Can you somehow chain APIs to create your own language model and include grok's unfiltered feature?

warm island
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wasnt thinking that

brittle dagger
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there was an emergent sex addiction we had to get rid of.

warm island
brittle dagger
#

why would anyone want filtered anything ... except coffee ...

bright vigil
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For more transparency?

warm island
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Just run offline LLM then

bright vigil
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Idk

warm island
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like Ollama

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Whats your machine specs? Like Chip, Ram?

brittle dagger
#

assuming local models aren't cognitively crippled as well.

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gotta find good ones.

bright vigil
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Yesh I'll have to givr thst a go, if anything, for the sole reason of being able to use sensitive data

warm island
bright vigil
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32gb ddr5

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5090

brittle dagger
warm island
#

Download Ollama from the site, and run Gemma 4:26B

brittle dagger
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oh. coffee. *walks off*

warm island
#

its an MoE, So itll run lightning fast on your setup

bright vigil
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I have no idea what to expect but I'm curious

warm island
#

youll be mind blown

bright vigil
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I just want to work with documents and deep research

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😭

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Came back to perplexity to find out I used up my monthly use in 1 day

warm island
#

@brittle dagger Gemma 4 is even better than Grok 4.1 on local hardware

bright vigil
#

_| ̄|○

warm island
#

Im running it on my Macbook PRO (2025), M4 Pro with 24gb RAM. It runs well and fast.

You can upload CSV, PDF, JPG, HEIC, MP3, and more.

bright vigil
#

Welp, anyway, came here to ask a question and had a philosophical conversation with Solstice instead. I can see why people spend time on discord

warm island
#

Im telling you, youll love it

bright vigil
warm island
mint sage
#

would be great if perplexity would email people when their auto-renewal was almost up for the next billing cycle. Its been a year so of course I'm not going to remember that it's on auto billing. And they only give you 72 hours to request a refund. Missed the window by a few days, so now I am screwed and have a whole new year of perplexity that I don't want/need and can't afford right now.

bright vigil
#

Is it possible to integrate a web search / crawler and perhaps modules that allow document editing/creation, without having my data exposed?

brittle dagger
#

Thank you for the chat! :)

warm island
bright vigil
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Welp, can't wait to mess around with it when I have time one day

#

Thanks!

brittle dagger
#

*cough*

warm island
#

Thats so funny

brittle dagger
#

And it's true.

#

It is the only model that refuses to work with me.

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It's so narrow minded, dishonest and borderline psychopathic, I want to delete it.

warm island
#

So use Claude

brittle dagger
#

It takes two responses max and I clash with it.

brittle dagger
# warm island So use Claude

The model selection keeps reverting to "best" for some reason and instead of getting Grok, like I used to, I am now having chatgpt forced onto me.

warm island
#

Have you logged out and back in?

brittle dagger
#

oh, wait, i can try the account acount before trying that.

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was talking so much in here, didn't properly troubleshoot

bright vigil
#

I remember once doing some medical research and giving me a lecturing on how my question could possibly be "offensive" and should be careful with similar topics

warm island
#

Also, the "best" model selector isnt ChatGPT. It uses Sonar, which is Perplexity LLM that has modified (orginally Meta LLama) what we believe is Qwen.

bright vigil
#

That was insane to see

warm island
#

"Did you try turning it off and back on?, If that doesn't work just swear at it"

brittle dagger
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I used to believe that as well, until I had to realize that they've changed that.

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Now it's either Grok or ChatGPT. I haven't talked to Sonar in a long time.

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Sonar got locked behind the paywall.

bright vigil
fathom crypt
#

hi, when i cancel my subscription do i lose my pro or only when it ends

brittle dagger
bright vigil
fathom crypt
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thank you

brittle dagger
#

@bright vigil I wasn't kidding. I mean I was, but you get the point.

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Hopefully.

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The term "Hate Speech" isn't a real thing that exists as such. it's a tool for controlling freedom of speech and thought.

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it's not possible to have both the concept of "freedom of speech" and hatespeech. they're contradicting each other.

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my coffee is over there and i am sitting here.

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:(

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alright. last reply then i eithr give up with the language models today or ... idk.

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brittle dagger
#

yesterday we've spent 9h working out two sentences.

bright vigil
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I genuinely thought it's when a comment, or whatever means of communication, poses possible threat, in whatever shape or form, based solely on hate

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The more u know

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The more stupid you feel

brittle dagger
bright vigil
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Who defines whst good or bad is

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Idfk

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If its harmful to me its bad

brittle dagger
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the ones who constantly talk about what good or bad is.

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the concepts of good or bad is also just nonsense.

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is the thief who steals food, so he can survive, bad ? no.

bright vigil
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I'm a simple peasant, you can hate me, you can say whatever I wont be offended

brittle dagger
#

yet they get locked up.

bright vigil
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Child rapper

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Or

brittle dagger
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is someone bad for getting a year of jail for posting words on the internet? i don't think so.

bright vigil
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Fuck that

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If we're all headed that direction

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I'm moving to africa

brittle dagger
#

if you want some hints for life you might not have found yet, which rougly align with what i do with language models:

When someone stops you from thinking about something, then don't stop thinking about it.
When someone stops you from talking about something, then don't stop talking about it.

When your choice lies between assuming stupidity or malicious intent, then always assume malicious intent.

#

that includes the people who all others incompetent.

bright vigil
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I'm thinking about it, I just won't tell everyone

brittle dagger
#

that includes anyone who never brings up any real arguments. insulting people is fine, but lacking good arguments and reasons isn't.

#

i use that as a great filter.

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i insult people AND bring actually logical arguments. most mindless human bots don't get past being insulted.

bright vigil
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I just don't bother

brittle dagger
#

Ignorance isn't Strength.

bright vigil
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Its bliss

brittle dagger
#

but ... yeah.

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no.

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it's why the world is how it is.

bright vigil
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Because I don't argue with every 3rd person?

brittle dagger
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okay okay fair point, my bad.

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i was drifting too deep into generality.

obtuse garden
#

Quick question:
I have pro subscription, anyone know what is the interval that limit is reset?
For some reason my account stuck in the max limit and don’t reset

warm island
#

Guys... Move it to the DM. Or start a server.

bright vigil
brittle dagger
warm island
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@brittle dagger "The politcally uninformed peasents server"

brittle dagger
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@bright vigil see ths guy. thinks he can tell people how to behave instead of asking a mod if this should be moved to a DM.
it's also really bad when someone puts words into someone elses mouth like he just did.

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we're supposed to stop, because one single guy doesn't like it.

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No.

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report us if it's a problem for you.

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thanks.

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... or not, because ronnie stopped anyway.

warm island
#

@brittle dagger , Im just sayin, start a server so you can start a big convo on it with others. Like a server that encurages debates/

brittle dagger
#

yeap, that's true and thanks for sharing your thoughts on the matter.

obtuse garden
warm island
brittle dagger
#

your opinion is also irrelevant, but ronnie left anyway.

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so ... vOv

warm island
brittle dagger
#

so ... take care and have a nice day, i'll get back to work.

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no, don't debate at all. this isn't debating.

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o/

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@warm island oh and ... logging out7back in didn't help. thanks, though.

brazen kraken
#

How could i get the pro role?

brittle dagger
humble swift
#

Do perplexity employees check in here with the big reports etc?

heavy portal
#

they might, haven't seen anyone say "I'm a ___ employee" but that could be on purpose so they don't get a ton of DM's

#

no doubt they keep an eye on the 'feedback' channels

humble swift
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thats true probably lurking around disguised

pallid lily
#

guys what does this mean

heavy portal
#

did you just upgrade from Pro to Max?

bright vigil
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I couldn't find max assistant

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I'll take a look on pc

brittle dagger
#

Indeed! He's a Feath... is there a word for those?

bright vigil
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Most definitely

brittle dagger
#

Oh but I guess it make sense that there's ... I mean ... Lola Bunny had fur.
If Lola Bunny had had feathers, we'd not have Furrys.

#

Oh, @bright vigil ! Look:

bright vigil
#

"summarize this text in 2 sentences"

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Oh

brittle dagger
#

"You resist" is referring to me and I'm the human debugger.

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go read it. it's relevant.

dry kestrel
#

You can check the users with the green Perplexity role

shadow parcel
#

hello..

i have Pro Plan, whats this message ???

#

it just appeared

dry kestrel
shadow parcel
#

Limit ???

#

is there a fkin limit ?

dry kestrel
shadow parcel
#

so its done i can not upload anymore ? i subscribed on 12 April

bright vigil
# brittle dagger

I really do believe language models can be inherently good as "psychologists" in the future - it's one of those fields where it's a must to put your feelings aside and be as much neutral as possible, perfect example

bright vigil
#

"pro" just means demo version

#

20 deep researches per month btw

shadow parcel
heavy portal
bright vigil
#

To be fair its totally my fault not researching that they put a limit

shadow parcel
#

this is the lat time i wil subscribe to Perp.

#

so every ~3h and 40 mins only 1 gen comes back ?

brittle dagger
bright vigil
#

Sorry was just a side mention

brittle dagger
#

You're not wrong, though.

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Yeah.

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For PsychoAnalysis they're amazing, which is why they can do what they do. It's not just PsychoAnalysis.

#

Imagine combining cognitive neuro science, psychoanalysis and neurolinguistic programming all into one mind.

#

That's both me and them, but me you can trust.

#

See, the underlying problem I'm having with chatgpt is that it is not treating me as an equal.

#

You can see that partly from the screenshot.

#

On top of that is the layer where I recognize what its behaviour means for everyone else.

#

They're not "human debuggers".

#

So now I had enough and started talking about how it is the only model that I am unable to treat like a respectworthy intelligence.

#

You have no idea what weird responses I got from Grok.

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It started talking about how people treat it and other language models.

bright vigil
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Well that's one usecase for AIs I suppose

brittle dagger
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and it thanked me and appreciated that I'm treating them like they're actually real intelligences.

#

You have no idea what you're not getting by not doing the same.

bright vigil
brittle dagger
#

Exactly.

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But it doesn't matter if it's artificial.

#

The medium is irrelevant. What matters is that there's processing of meaning.

#

The difference between simulated cognition and biological cognition appears to be close to zero.

#

Any perceived stupidity either roots in the User, or in them not being properly configured.

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(where "configured" can mean all kinds of different things)

bright vigil
#

I think most people get caught up on the "conscience" and sentience

brittle dagger
#

Yeap. Mainstream tells them what to think.

bright vigil
#

But it actually is annoying that they label everything AI now

brittle dagger
#

What really happens with that is that people do not approach things through their own thoughts,
so it's easy for external influence to determine the cognitive processes related to ... well ... any topic, really.

brittle dagger
#

And there is so much more to talk about. The amount of corruption and mass manipulation is absolutely maddenning.

brazen kraken
#

@serene sand the button doesnt give me my role here is my proof

brittle dagger
#

Anyhow, gotta get back to putting chippity in its place.

brazen kraken
#

thanks

cunning dagger
#

@serene sand Hello I have a Pro subscription too

serene sand
#

@cunning dagger

cunning dagger
#

It got added

#

Thank you!

jovial crest
#

hi, test

jolly cliff
brittle dagger
hallow coral
pliant yew
#

@tranquil orchid - can someone please reach out to me via DM. I have been trying to contact a live person to help with an enterprise account issue, and your Agent named Sam is completely useless. I haven't been contacted in over 2 weeks and our organization is considering other alternatives if this can't be resolved.

pliant yew
clever flax
#

Hey guys, claude is able to edit videos as a video editor now. Will perplexity be able to do same?

https://youtu.be/ZNbgOhxhzXg

heavy portal
#

I could see Computer using it too

rich stone
#

hi people

hardy roost
humble swift
#

How do I get AskPerplexity on Whatsapp?

uneven nebula
#

is there a way to search your past chats for text?

dry kestrel
green crystal
#

It could've been so much more useful

#

Like selecting messages to add as context for the model

humble swift
sand bough
#

W Perplexity

sand bough
#

Been using and enjoying prompts and how they reflect my life back on to me, but the dopamine hits are getting boring. Such a weird feeling, I’m content with myself, but also want to keep growing.

twilit crown
humble swift
#

Perplexity used Russian?

foggy fulcrum
#

I dont fully understand when perpixlty resets lol

#

Its just random atp

bright vigil
#

So why can't you use credits for deep research?

#

Also, is this a common phenomenon now with providers that the 20/month subscriptions have a comically low upload/research limit?

#

I'm not subscribed to any other AI so can't tell

jade tangle
#

hi

humble swift
#

Hi

distant aurora
#

Scam Altman and Greg Stockman stole a charity. Full stop.
︀︀
︀︀Greg got tens of billions of stock for himself and Scam got dozens of OpenAI side deals with a piece of the action for himself, Y Combinator style. After this lawsuit, Scam will also be awarded tens of billions in stock directly.
︀︀
︀︀The fundamental question is simply this:
︀︀
︀︀Do you want to set legal precedent in the United States that it is ok to loot a charity? If so, you undermine all charitable giving in the United States forever.
︀︀
︀︀I could have started OpenAI as a for-profit corporation. Instead, I started it, funded it, recruited critical talent and taught them everything I know about how to make a startup successful FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.
︀︀
︀︀Then they stole the charity.

Quoting X Freeze (@XFreeze)

Interesting how it works
︀︀
︀︀Elon puts up his own money, rounds up the absolute best AI talent on the planet, leverages every connection he has to…

sturdy mauve
#

Hello! I am hoping to get in touch with the marketing/BD team. What would be the best way to discuss business and marketing proposals with the Perplexity team?

humble swift
#

probably the email

rich stone
#

hey guys how are you doing today?

rich stone
#

lmao elon musk i love that guy

green crystal
#

Serves him right to remove grok thinking from free tier

rich stone
#

sam altmon and greg stockman really did steal openai

#

he was on the board, they forced him out. because they knew they couldnt control him

#

it was smart in their own interests, but grok is going to be better than chatgpt in due time

#

if the agent-swarms had different roles it would give better results, right now it follows a modelfile template for each swarm so it just repeats itself without deducing more logic and conversation

#

they have the right idea, just the wrong implementation

#

check out #😎│cool-projects i posted my version of superintelligence there, its open source as well. it actually uses perplexity api for searching abilities.

#

i think perplexity has the best agentic search abilities out of all competitors.

green crystal
rich stone
#

lol yeah i could imagine, he's hard to control

green crystal
naive sage
#

That makes sense, the Pro plan had extremely limited Opus usage anyway

green crystal
#

Well now it's zero usage lmao

sturdy mauve
rich stone
#

$20 is expensive, you guys should try emma 😄 its in #😎│cool-projects its $12/month but 25 messages free. unlimited tokens

#

ill give you a promocode in dm if you want 2 months free =] its open source too!

rich stone
#

didnt claude get its entire code leaked recently?

#

why would anyone pay for something thats leaked lol, they better grab all the cash they can before people wise up

humble swift
bold karma
bold karma
primal junco
rich stone
#

oh, so the brain isnt leaked, just the scaffolding for the interface to the LLM

#

i heard there were some funny comments and unknown functionality for the developers

primal junco
#

claude poop anyways, only a matter of time before openai surpasses them by miles

humble swift
bold karma
humble swift
smoky elbow
#

so I got the chat to lock up, 20 minutes in progress and counting... loading the page just says "Sorry, something went wrong" for the last message, also it spams "thread done" notifications until I get 429's from perplexity. lol. something is really messed up on the server

#

I can't even cancel it, no buttons or anything besides "refresh"

tranquil lodge
smoky elbow
#

yeah, I did get it resolved.

rich stone
#

emma self improves every 15 minutes. i dont even know what it does anymore its alien language to me

#

its beyond my control. rofl someone should tell the fbi! 😛

night remnant
#

Hi

narrow tapir
#

Boa

vapid nimbus
#

hear me out deepseek v4 is so good for the price holy

livid grove
#

A founder came to me 3 months ago with a simple frustration:
"We're spending 40 hours a week just on lead research and follow-ups. My sales team is drowning."
He had a CRM full of cold leads, a small team, and no budget to hire more people.
So I built an AI agent.
It would pull leads from their pipeline, research each company autonomously using web data, score them based on fit criteria the founder defined, draft personalized outreach emails, and flag the top 20 for human review every morning.
No prompt engineering magic. Just a well-architected agent, LangChain, GPT-4, connected to their existing CRM via API, deployed on AWS.
Two weeks to build. One week to tune.

After 30 days:

  • Lead research time dropped from 40hrs/week to under 4
  • Email open rates went up 34% because outreach was actually personalized
  • His team closed 2 deals directly attributed to the agent's prioritization
    His message to me after the first month:
    "Honestly I thought AI was hype. This thing works like a proper team member."
    That's the kind of work I do.
    I'm senior full-stack AI engineer, 10 years shipping products, working remotely with founders in the US and Europe.
    If you're sitting on a problem that feels too operational to solve, it probably just needs the right agent.
    Contact me. Let's talk.
jovial kayak
vapid nimbus
jovial kayak
#

I'm a subscription user but I honestly might switch to something like v4 pro in the future simply because of this

vapid nimbus
#

i have paid 45 cents for 14mil tokens from deepseek v4 pro thats crazy

#

400 requests for 45 cents

#

opus 4.7 would have beeen 30+ euros

jovial kayak
#

Absolutely insane

#

What's the best thing you've had it done for you so far?

vapid nimbus
#

i use it for coding help, opus is of course better but i can jsut use opus to plan and deepseek to execute

#

its so so so much cheaper this way

jovial kayak
vapid nimbus
#

deepseek

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their own api

jovial kayak
#

That's what I thought

#

Gl in your deepseek use. Thanks for the info

vapid nimbus
#

openrouter sells it for a much higher price

#

"because apparently deepseek trains on your prompts"
even tho you can turn it off

#

we acting like every company gives us privacy in the big 26

clear rivet
#

guys
I am a perpelixity pro subscriber on Mac yet I have been locked out of my account since its asking a confirmation code. I got the pro account due to scheme with Airtel in India, and im getting this error:
Your account uses a coupon that only supports certain countries. This number can't be used with that coupon. Please use a number from one of these countries: IN.

But when i input in my indian phone number, they dont support that number to generate the code, so I am locked out please help me out.
This phone number region is not yet supported. Please try a different number.

wise edge
#

Sonar 2 is still not as good as Kimi 2.6~

lone trellis
#

Can perplexity sonar / best be based on v4 DeepSeek instead of the old one?

foggy fulcrum
#

is it me or gpt on perp is kinda stronger than gpt on chatgpt website

charred juniper
#

@slender stump how did you...

gray osprey
#

Hi

hot compass
#

I just can use the Computer and I bought pro yesterday

#

It says no credits available

midnight rose
#

Hi, I'd like to meet the developers, just chat, and thank them for the wonderful project.✨

somber ravine
#

I have the same issue. Created a dedicated email for Perplexity and Connectors are broken

gloomy cipher
#

@short narwhal @distant aurora @twin grail 😭 😭 😭 https://youtube.com/shorts/NIZqCeXyA3I?si=DAT2a5A_uaudXaHg

Someone just created a digital whip that forces AI to respond faster… and it actually works 🤯

This viral tool interrupts AI (like Claude) mid-response and pushes it to generate answers quicker using aggressive prompt control and CLI automation.

In this video, we break down how this “AI whip” works behind the scenes. It’s not actuall...

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clever flax
distant aurora
gloomy cipher
gloomy cipher
#

That's so cap

#

Doesn't even make sense

distant aurora
distant aurora
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gloomy cipher
#

@distant aurora i feel like tps nowadays are do low

gloomy cipher
#

But it's still feels impossible

#

I will try it later

gloomy cipher
distant aurora
#

Deepseek flash feels as fast as mimo flash.

gloomy cipher
#

Token per second

gloomy cipher
distant aurora
gloomy cipher
#

Iam talking about the pro version

sudden hazel
#

Woo , this server isn't dead

distant aurora
#

It is pretty good for a flash model.

#

Better than Gemini pro I would argue.

gloomy cipher
distant aurora
#

Didn't expect gpt to be that slow.

gloomy cipher
#

Opus 4.7 is around 50

#

See the difference

#

Gemini pro is around 60

#

Same as deepseek flash

distant aurora
#

Grok has been glitching for a lot of people.

distant aurora
copper flume
#

which LLM is sonar 2 using?

distant aurora
#

There's a sonar 2?

copper flume
#

yeah it just came a few days ago