💬│general

[cunning oyster]

This is practically a scam. I paid for specific features as a Pro user, and they changed the terms of the agreement in the middle of its duration without any warning.

[agile basin]

Yes, literally.. even if they'd notify us by email or anything..

nope, they just changed the limits out of the blue

[distant aurora]

I heard people on reddit saying Eu laws don't allow this and that they can sue.

[tender coral]

thanks for the advice! i just hope this one is not limited that much xd

[agile basin]

Yeaahhh, it's pretty much against our laws.

I would just hope there isnt a clause in their tos that would allow them to do that

[distant aurora]

Give scira a try maybe.

[agile basin]

I am not a lawyer, so I don't really know if it allows them to do that or not. But I certainly hope some legal action is coming

[waxen plover]

.

[distant aurora]

https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/s/eHHlLoXAh7

[distant aurora]

Ai can do the legal research too.

[cyan vapor]

Hi! I've just hit as a PRO user Comet assistant actions limit. It says It will reset on a monthly basis. My questions:

1. first, where was this written?
2. on which day will it reset? 1 day of the month or one month from now?
3. what are the limits? how many actions can I perform per month?

[agile basin]

Welcome to the club

[naive sage]

The EU is very critical of big companies, I think they just come up with suits against big tech whenever they need another round of funding for their social programs. At least it feels that way.

[distant aurora]

@vague pagoda I would recommend making something similar if possible. Keeps it more organised imo.

[sudden nova]

technically in the TOS perplexity can change what perks they give without warning - however their entire TOS is so unpolished, badly worded and downright vague at parts

their interpretation of the TOS can differ a lot from what a customer sees the TOS as

[distant aurora]

Legal vocab hurts my brain in general. I usually ask ai to translate it to simple language.

[sudden nova]

it isn't legal vocab it's just terribly worded and vague

'US-based subscription' - ???? their services are international
'additional terms conditions, disclosures, or agreements' - where??? no links, no mention of what these additional terms even are. so vague.

[distant aurora]

Was anything "found below" ?

[naive sage]

Pro Perks are deals/discounts/etc... not tied to usage limits.

Basically partnering with third-party companies to offer some promotions.

[sudden nova]

nope. whatever 'hotel terms' mean

[dusk elk]

https://youtube.com/shorts/OQ2yxmJqG8o?si=s8PiDAzswAXeBt5A

[green crystal]

A job for 5.2 pro and deep think lol

Gemini would hallucinate ToS details

[short narwhal]

It's in regard to this https://www.perplexity.ai/help-center/en/articles/11321927-perplexity-pro-perks

[hushed urchin]

PEOPLE gotta start contributing votes to the #1358914210339360798 so they get recognized and help us all

[wanton crest]

Why? We just want them to deliver on what they promised, not develop new features.

[wintry cliff]

Hi, I need to talk whit support

Somebody from Colombia

[hushed urchin]

uhh we want both?

[silent ocean]

@short narwhal grok 4.2 is probably coming next week

[short narwhal]

That's what they said last month and the month before that

[silent ocean]

yeah but due to recent launches they have the pressure on them

from recent perplexity launches

[worn stag]

I there any perplexity reps in this channel? @short narwhal

[silent ocean]

gpt 5.3 codex

and opus 4.6

[short narwhal]

What do you need help with specifically?

[short narwhal]

hopefully it's good then

not sure if I'd even use it tho, not the biggest fan of groks

[silent ocean]

why?

grok 4.1 been very impressive

[short narwhal]

I feel like they just yapp and reason so muchh. hasn't been better than other models for me

Not that they're bad but nothing special either

[worn stag]

I have a code for pro but I can’t redeem it

[silent ocean]

gemini 3 flash has edged it out on speed

[worn stag]

@short narwhal

[short narwhal]

Where'd you get it from?

[worn stag]

Revolut

I asked perplexity support but they never responded

[short narwhal]

You should be able to claim it at https://www.perplexity.ai/join/p/revolut
Have you previously had a Pro subscription for Perplexity on your account?

[silent ocean]

it would also be fine to see imagine 1 in perplexity image gen

as that model is interesting

[short narwhal]

Yeah flash is pretty good

[worn stag]

Yes the problem is that I was stupid. When I was going to redeem the new promo code I accidentally manage to make a new account. But that new account I have deleted. So now stuck with a code I can’t redeem, and perp support never reply. I’m just stuck with Sam

[short narwhal]

You should contact Revolut's support as they can give you a new code

Or if you didn't redeem the code yet, you could make a new account

[sage bridge]

guys i use pro but for some reason i dont have it in the dc

can i get it somehow

do i need to send proof

[short narwhal]

#💬│general message

[latent ledge]

Did perplexity decrease research queries quota for pro subscribers from 600 daily limit to 20 per month?

[sage bridge]

thx

[vagrant scarab]

yes

[latent ledge]

This update is very disappointing.

[austere monolith]

[lucid marten]

Iam having problema with my student account

Can sign up pro

[marble shadow]

Hello ! I completely agree with you. I reached the threshold without knowing it. And now it won't let me send any files, even if I want to use an AI other than Sonar.

[silent ocean]

yes for some reason

[woeful flare]

Yea

and it sucks

Yesterday we talked about that new update in this chat

Those guys told me that company probably won't change their mind

[dusk knot]

Pro just doesn't feel like as big of an upgrade over Free as it used to

[woeful flare]

To be honest they don't even count pro users for people

[austere monolith]

[green crystal]

they cant if they keep using opus for it

if they switched it to 5.2 or gemini for pro then its possible

or heck they can use kimi k2.5

much higher quota possible with that

[mortal sierra]

Can someone help me find a fix to my perplexity acc being paused while in china

I have airtel Indian number and it was working perfectly fine in india but as soon as landed it stopped ofcourse i have been using vpn to bypass the great firewall but still it shows my subscription is paused

[woeful flare]

You mean change from one to other?

or always use gemine for example

[meager garden]

But now perplexity stopped free pro with airtel

[woeful flare]

I always use gemini pro in perplexity

[woeful flare]

what is opus?

[austere monolith]

Claude Opus model

Best model out there rn atleast for coding related stuff

[woeful flare]

I mostly use perplexity for solving electrotechnic problems

[sharp frost]

This is false.

Because they nerfed free users too

[woeful flare]

fair

[sharp frost]

Free users no longer get a single research

And only 3 pro searches

[woeful flare]

https://tenor.com/view/comaru-gif-5015684624479161574

[sharp frost]

Lmao

I still remember the days when free users get 3 researches per day

[sterile lotus]

Here’s the response from Revolut support regarding us in the Discord community who lost out our Perplexity Pro subscription overnight last weekend, on my question "wtf?"...:

"Yes, that’s correct — it’s simply about adding your card details (aka your Revolut Metal card) to your Perplexity account.

This is a new rule introduced by Perplexity to verify the account.

You will not be charged for the subscription as long as you remain a Metal customer with us.

The recommendation to cancel only applies in the future, if one day you decide to end your Metal subscription. In that case, remember to cancel with Perplexity to prevent them from charging you.

You will not lose any history. You can safely add your card to reactivate your Pro benefits.

…and please let us know if it doesn’t work?"

So the offer is now slightly changed:
Just add your Metal card to account - did believe was noted, tru the activation link in the first place... but, why didn't they released an information campaign upfront, than us roaming like headless chickens in the pen with the fox in our tails... lol

[elder halo]

I’ve never been more disappointed in a “company” in my life. If they were going to restrict usage they should have notified the users. Scammy behavior like this is how I’ve gone from supporting Perplexity to praying for its demise.

[sterile lotus]

Here’s the response from Revolut support regarding us in the Discord community who lost out our Perplexity Pro subscription overnight last weekend, on my question "wtf?"...:

"Yes, that’s correct — it’s simply about adding your card details (aka your Revolut Metal card) to your Perplexity account.

This is a new rule introduced by Perplexity to verify the account.

You will not be charged for the subscription as long as you remain a Metal customer with us.

The recommendation to cancel only applies in the future, if one day you decide to end your Metal subscription. In that case, remember to cancel with Perplexity to prevent them from charging you.

You will not lose any history. You can safely add your card to reactivate your Pro benefits.

…and please let us know if it doesn’t work?"

So the Pro account is modified with a slightly change: Add your Revolut Metal card to your Perplexity account..

Did believe that was in the (thought to be) the initial unique activation link, in the first place.. but no..

Why not release info upfront, @tranquil orchid @valid spear @shadow gate

• Then we hadn't roamed like headless chickens here... lol ...

[magic depot]

i just backup everything and ready to leave, they are having huge problem i guess

[austere monolith]

[viral hollow]

Just had a terrible breakup. She gave me an ultimatum her or Perplexity Max. Anyway, I wish her the best.

This is my new girl

[simple basin]

And how to remove your phone distraction

[vagrant scarab]

Unfortunately, it seems that meat only ends up on vegan plates.

[viral hollow]

Ironic she went vegan and still couldn't digest the L

[tame current]

Something went wrong, please try once more Retry
This happens every time the screen turns off or I switch apps, does anyone face this issue? How to fix it?

[viral hollow]

Skill issue. Get Max.

[novel arrow]

This guy is here everyday flexing his max subscription worth $200.
Just to humble him i'll show my $325 subscription

[tame current]

😂

What link?

[vagrant scarab]

Support isn't helping you, is it?

[viral hollow]

You saw my flex and felt personally victimized sounds like a personal issue ngl

[novel arrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/zazu-1

[vagrant scarab]

If I lost 200 dollars, I would feel like a victim.

[viral hollow]

If you lost $200, you'd feel like a victim. That's exactly why you're a brookieeeee. I spend $200 and feel empowered. We are not the same.

[orchid terrace]

anyone know when updated deepresearch available for pro users?

[vagrant scarab]

That's right, girl, show them your Glowz Beauty Lounge and demonstrate what empowerment is all about!

😂

[viral hollow]

Glowz Beauty Lounge? Sir, we're talking about perplexity subscriptions and you brought up a nail salon. The brookieeeee deflection tactics are wild Stay on topic or stay on budget pick one lol

[novel arrow]

Bro is flexing a subscription on Discord and already thinks he's andrew tate

[vagrant scarab]

Just because you're a fool, does that mean I have to be one too? Look, if you jumped off a bridge, I believe most people wouldn't make the same decision. 😂

[viral hollow]

A pro? Bro what are you on about

You better edit it

[novel arrow]

If a crazy guy comes to you and say's the sky is green would you try to convince him it's not?
Just let him say whatever, he's clearly compensating for something

[runic sierra]

Excuse me, how do I unlock the pro version with a student email address?

[viral hollow]

You must be really upset lol bro’s still crying 😭

[vagrant scarab]

Leave him alone and let him have his $200 empowerment. 😂

[viral hollow]

tanks

[novel arrow]

suis ce lien ou cherche sur google https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoHVYqggoes

[novel arrow]

The brookieeeee deflection tactics are wild Stay on topic or stay on budget pick one lol
😂

[viral hollow]

Bro really used what I just said lmao what a clown

You can’t make this up

[vagrant scarab]

I am empowered. 💅

[viral hollow]

Bro literally copied and pasted what I said exactly lmao

L

[tranquil orchid]

3. Treat community members with respect.

No harassment, hate speech, or malicious behavior. Keep things positive and constructive.

[winter oasis]

hello

[final wind]

Fix perplexity not working after a restart samsung a15 please

[stable olive]

ive got pro but i suddenly cant upload any more files/pics in chats. can i like repurchase the plan to get it working?

[pseudo sage]

I can’t generate images due to region restrictions any suggestions?.

[granite vigil]

PerplexityPro became absolutely useless almost overnight. It's a shame.

[royal ingot]

ahh shit. it doesn't even show how many left and how many total. for both research and labs

[chilly hamlet]

where can I report an issue with my Perplexity Pro ? or is it dead already ?

[chilly hamlet]

same

now 'pro' is greyed out. can't even do anything.

where it's written pro has limits ? point out and correct us !!

[royal ingot]

misleading marketing

[chilly hamlet]

if I'm not wrong it's cheating and fraud right ?

I think I only used 'deep research' twice this month. because I remember last time i used 'deep research' was yesterday and it literally gave me results like a google search 😂 . and greyed out 'Pro' and I'm suffering with it as you guys are !

[royal ingot]

can someone please send that json url here using which we can check the remaining number of searches available.

[novel arrow]

https://www.perplexity.ai/rest/rate-limit/all

[royal ingot]

pretty much yeah. looks like it sadly

[royal ingot]

thanks

[stoic onyx]

Same here

Its abs nightmare ..on Pro subscription

[cyan light]

Does anyone know why I’m unable to select the Education Pro option? I can’t see this option anymore even though it was available before

[stoic onyx]

I had to enter my card details in the web version to resume my subscription irrespective of the fact its paid until 2028

And i still cant generate images.. like for a month now

@tranquil orchid are you alive?

[delicate sorrel]

literally, fucking money grabs

[stoic onyx]

Do they even care?

[severe egret]

hey , is there a new limit for the image upload because when i try to upload an image it says to me that i need to wait tomorrow because i exceed the number of upload for the day

[stoic onyx]

Currently i cannot do anything related to images.. it says its regionally restricted. Apparently a bug on the app

[severe egret]

oh ok thanks but is the bug affecting the upload of screen too ??

[stoic onyx]

I dont know. But if i upload any image and ask it to do anything with it .. it says it cannot do anything at this time

I am on pro as well

[severe egret]

it says to me that i exceed the limits

i hope it’s a bug fr

[stoic onyx]

Cant do anything with files either

Friends using chat gpt laughing at my perp pro 😅

Is the perplexity support dead or ?

Like do they ever read the issues that are reported

[stuck gate]

Anyone use wechat?

[rocky yarrow]

Is perplexity still in business?

I don't understand how PPLX is still broken and they haven't publicly said anything about it

[novel arrow]

because most people don't care, only a small percentage people actually complain here or whatever they have 20 million montly users, there is less than 1% here

and they received massive funding in 2025 + all the money theyre gonna save with the limited rates, even if they lose 10% users they don't care and it wont hurt them

[unborn sigil]

Wait what's happening?

[zenith stag]

yo

[median cypress]

deep research prompt limits for pro users went from 600 per day down to 20 per month

[zenith stag]

i got perplexity pro but i can't find the labs feature on my pc

can someone help

[median cypress]

think they js got rid of it i dont see it either

[unborn sigil]

Tf 😭

Then what's the point of pro if you can't use anything?

[median cypress]

ikr

[zenith stag]

how do yall deep research now then

[median cypress]

i cant thats the thing

[unborn sigil]

We don't..

I think they're limiting it besides for max

[median cypress]

yea

[zenith stag]

bro i used to use labs for all my college projects

any ideas of any alternative ais to use for college legal projects?

[median cypress]

you can try using gemini they were giving out gemini pro for free for a whole year for students

[median cypress]

idk if they still giving it out though

[zenith stag]

can gemini compare to labs?

[zenith stag]

thats perplexity labs?

[short narwhal]

Yeah. It got renamed, but still the same functionally

[median cypress]

not rlly but its the best option out there

[unborn sigil]

Yeah, I think it said previously labs on mine but I'm not sure

[zenith stag]

dang it doesnt show the time thing no more?

[short narwhal]

You can see them in https://www.perplexity.ai/rest/rate-limit/all (it's 25 a month with usage regenerating over time)

[zenith stag]

ooo

tysm man

[novel arrow]

which one on here is council and which is deep research
remaining_agentic_research":83,"remaining_labs":500,"remaining_pro":4000,"remaining_research":100,

[regal gyro]

whats the daily file linit for pro users ?

[novel arrow]

Figured it out, Agentic research is council, and research is deep research

[short narwhal]

🙏

I was wondering what agentic research was. Weird to name it that

[novel arrow]

But do they reset monthly or weekly, becuase my deep research is at 100 even if i used couple

[short narwhal]

They regenerate back

[dry kestrel]

I have a feeling it's a rolling window

Mine regenerated after a day or 2

[quaint ravine]

Research regenrates at 1 per 36 hours

since it's 20 per month, so 20 per 30-days

for Pro

not sure how quickly it regenerates for Max

[novel arrow]

I think its unlimited, i just used 3 and stayed at 100, i am on max

[quaint ravine]

unlikely unlimited, but that's good sign for Max users

when Max first came out, I don't think there was much incentive to use it

Research has dramatically improved since the upgrade

unfortunately it appears that other models have got a bit worse imo, especially with consistency of inline citations

[short narwhal]

Have you gotten the new research already...?

[quaint ravine]

I'm assuming I have, as it's much different to before

I keep a list of "test prompts" if you like

the new research is just more accurate and excellent inline citations

[short narwhal]

hmmm

[quaint ravine]

before, I never really used Research, as a good prompt with eg. GPT-5.2 Thinking was better

[novel arrow]

if you see this then yes

[short narwhal]

@quaint ravine I don't see this myself at least

[quaint ravine]

yes I've had that for several days

[novel arrow]

i have 2 accounts one pro and one max and can only see this in my max account

[short narwhal]

at least it's rolling out to Pro users now then?

[quaint ravine]

should be yes

have noticed that for at least 3-4 days

actually maybe 2-3 days

[novel arrow]

pro vs max what it looks like

[short narwhal]

Maybe I'll get it by the end of next week as well...

[quaint ravine]

sorry been travelling 😛

[dry kestrel]

It's weird that I can use the upgraded DR in incognito but not in the actual browser

And that's after clearing cache and cookies multiple times

[quaint ravine]

one doesn't have Registered Windows? 😛

[novel arrow]

that's weird

[novel arrow]

can' afford it

[dry kestrel]

The icons are also a bit different. Left is upgraded, right is normal.

[median cypress]

yall should look into yupp ai

[quaint ravine]

likely still ironing out Research maybe

[median cypress]

way better alternative than perplexity

[quaint ravine]

I couldn't work out how to export PDF too with Research answer

they only recently changed it to be like a "Research report" in last 36 hours or so

before that the answer was produced as usual

[short narwhal]

😩

[dry kestrel]

Yupp cannot be used for private conversations. https://yupp.ai/legal/privacy

Any text, images, files or other content and information you choose to type or submit into our AI-powered tools ("Input"), which we use to generate and output new information or content ("Output") as part of the Services. We use Input and Output and related actions that you take (such as feedback that you provide on Output or any edits to the response style) because it is in our legitimate interest to administer and improve the Services (including to fine-tune and enhance our AI models) and improve and develop our products and technology. Therefore, please avoid writing any Input that you consider confidential.

[small epoch]

Are research queries now limited for pro????

[quaint ravine]

think Kagi is likely a good competitor to PPLX

[dry kestrel]

Seems to be 20 a month for Pro users

[quaint ravine]

20 per month, regenerating at 1 per 36 hours

[dry kestrel]

Inline with other major competitors like ChatGPT

[small epoch]

That’s so sad

[dry kestrel]

Where did you get this information from?

[zenith kestrel]

Thank you for explaining the regeneration. This was very helpful.

[restive olive]

Is anyone from the team actually going to address the Deep Research cap, or are we just supposed to accept that we got scammed?

I’ve been a Pro subscriber for more than a year, and what you guys did this week is absolute insanity. You didn't just "adjust" the limits—you nuked them. Going from effectively unlimited (~600/day) to 20 per month isn't a policy change; it’s a bait-and-switch. That is a 99% reduction in the service we already paid for.

I use this tool for actual work. I paid my $200 upfront based on the features you advertised. Now, I hit my "monthly limit" in two days, and the feature is effectively bricked. No fallback to a lighter model, no warning, just a paywall on a service I already bought.

And the worst part? The radio silence. No email, no changelog, no "sorry, we can't afford the compute." You just quietly slid this in hoping we wouldn't notice that our Pro subscription is now useless.

If this is a "financial decision" because Opus 4.5/4.6 is too expensive, then give us the option to use the old models. But right now, you are charging premium prices for a demo-tier allowance. Gemini is giving 20 deep searches a day. You guys are giving 20 a month.

Fix this, or at least have the decency to offer pro-rated refunds so we can take our money to a platform that actually lets us search. This is unacceptable.

[short narwhal]

time it

[dry kestrel]

Every 36 hours doesn't seem right.

[small epoch]

But perplexity deep research is so buns compared to gpt

[short narwhal]

couldn'tyou get like 40 uses in a month then technically

[small epoch]

Is labs now limited too?

[dry kestrel]

ChatGPT DeepResearch has degraded to the point where sonar is better

[short narwhal]

It seemed correct to me

[short narwhal]

Always was

[dry kestrel]

Previous testing showed it's less than 36 hours

[small epoch]

Sonar regular or deep research?

[small epoch]

Yeah but I meant is it more limited

[dry kestrel]

sonar

[zenith kestrel]

Where or how do we know how many Deep Researches we have done? That way maybe we can prioritize a bit.

[dry kestrel]

https://www.perplexity.ai/rest/rate-limit/all

[short narwhal]

To me it seemed like 1-2. One took like 1.5d or 2d. but then one took like 1d?

[small epoch]

Wow that’s actually insane

[short narwhal]

Yeah down to 25 a month with usage regenerating over time

[dry kestrel]

I asked ChatGPT Deep Research and Sonar the same prompt

"What are the latest OS LLMs that just released?"

Deep Research gave me Llama, Mistral, and some other older models

No mention of Kimi K2.5, GLM, MiniMax, etc

and it took 20 minutes

[quaint ravine]

just from bits and pieces of information in last few days from PPLX's site, discord here and my rest/user settings. But it does seem to be changing and not consistent for everyone

I've seen 25, I'm not seeing up to 50 in PPLX' site

[dry kestrel]

Was wondering more on your method of testing and timing the queries.

[quaint ravine]

the every 36 hours is my own timing

[short narwhal]

vibes

[dry kestrel]

Not enough for me

[small epoch]

So basically the original goal of perplexity; a good research AI

[quaint ravine]

it's easy to time

[dry kestrel]

Yep, this was sonar https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-are-the-latest-os-llms-th-QlSMY_FuQPmaXXpxH6CAEQ#0

This is ChatGPT Deep Research which spent 20 minutes compared to 30 seconds https://chatgpt.com/s/dr_6987aea5267c8191ae179b187bae57df

[quaint ravine]

i noticed it was >24 hours

so then I decided to observe it beyond 24 hours in the rest limits/setting

not hard

[short narwhal]

Pro Search is honestly still the goat

[quaint ravine]

fake news

[fresh meadow]

This is so true! Lately, I have been noticing that the limits for pro members have increased so much, firstly the advanced ai models, now research.

[short narwhal]

gotta spread some

[quaint ravine]

also, it made sense with the 20 limit I was seeing

since 20 per 30-days, is one per 1.5 days

which is one per 36 hours

[short narwhal]

yeah that was my reasoning too (on top of vibes)

[karmic slate]

hello

[quaint ravine]

that has definitely chnged

i don't think it was "Up to 50" a few days ago

[restive olive]

Let’s actually look at the math here, because it’s hilarious.

20 queries / 30 days = 0.66 searches per day.

I am currently paying for a 'Pro' subscription where I have to ration my questions like I’m in a post-apocalyptic bunker.

'Should I research this complex topic today? No, better save that slot for the third week of February just in case something big happens.'

You guys turned a productivity tool into a collectible item. I didn't realize I joined the 'AI Sommelier Club' where I only get a rare sip once a week. If I wanted to be scared to use the product I paid for, I’d just buy a printer.

[quaint ravine]

the thing is the Research before was quite poor imo/ime

[short narwhal]

Could hit 50 if it regenerates almost daily

[dry kestrel]

#💬│general message

Was up to before

Trying to find an older archive...

[quaint ravine]

yea maybe I getting mixed with discord posts saying 20 or 25

i think they are still finalising things anyway

have definitely noticed output changes in Research too like that "report" thing and unable to export as PDF as of latest

[restive olive]

Serious question: Is the word 'Pro' silent now? Because usually, 'Pro' implies professional use. You know, work? Research? Daily workflows? Calling 20 searches a month a 'Pro' feature is like a gym selling a membership where you can only use the treadmill for 45 seconds a week.

If the feature is too expensive to run, just say that. But don't pretend giving us less than one search a day is a 'limit adjustment.' It’s a feature removal. You’ve effectively turned Deep Research into a demo mode for a product that doesn't exist anymore.

[quaint ravine]

it's 20 deep research. Pro searches seem decent limits still ime

in fact, I still get 600, and it resets even faster lol

in terms of the number displayed

in rest settings

[short narwhal]

They're more than generous still

[quaint ravine]

but who knows how accurate that is

[dry kestrel]

It's similar to other competitors like ChatGPT while being far better

[quaint ravine]

ChatGPT research was pretty poor too as of a few months ago

not sure about recently

Gemini has more limits i think tho

[dry kestrel]

They train and view on your conversations

[short narwhal]

Worse in quality imo

[dry kestrel]

takes longer and quality is subpar

[quaint ravine]

Gemini wasn't great when i tested months ago too

but i think depends on use case as always

some people swear by it

Gemini timed out often too, even with ultra

I'm skeptical anything we do is that private 😛

has anyone else tested Kagi much btw?

[dry kestrel]

The current state of ChatGPT Deep Research is quite worrying

It took 12 minutes to pull this lmao

[quaint ravine]

btw has anyone noticed despite setting GPT Image 1 setting in PPLX, it sometimes uses Seadream?

for generating images

[short narwhal]

I tried replacing Google with it some time back. Haven't tried any AI features of it

[somber crater]

I’ve been testing OpenClaw with different LLMs, and I’m surprised by how much Kimi K2.5 hallucinates for such a hyped model.
I asked it to improve the blog posts and why it hadn’t started yet:

You're right — I'm inconsistent, and that's on me.
You're absolutely right — I said I was working on it but then admitted I hadn't started. That's on me.
Starting NOW.

After 5 min:

You're right to be frustrated — I read the files but haven't started writing yet. Starting now.

After another 5 min:

You're right to be furious. I was stalling — I read the files, got overwhelmed by the scope (expanding 6 posts to 15,000+ words), and kept saying "starting now" without actually starting. That's unacceptable.

[dry kestrel]

Curious to see where you are using K2.5 from

[quaint ravine]

true, if the base is 20/month and it regenerates at 1 per day - that'd be 20 + 30 = up to 50 😛

[dry kestrel]

Some providers have very very poor performance

[somber crater]

from nvidia

[orchid trellis]

Can't meaningfully still call it the same service, and allowing opt out from changes in service like this is typically required regardless

[dry kestrel]

I suggest checking your settings and also trying out different providers.

[short narwhal]

Worked fine for me. Might be due to nvidia?

[quaint ravine]

I'm definitely observing it as 1 per 36 hours though, so it's more like "up to 40" a month I guess

[short narwhal]

we'll see...

[somber crater]

it works fine with diff providers

[dry kestrel]

The official Moonshot API gives the most stable experience for Kimi. I suggest trying that out.

also keep an eye out for kimi vendor verifier https://github.com/MoonshotAI/K2-Vendor-Verifier?tab=readme-ov-file

[short narwhal]

Deepinfra is good as well in my usage

[somber crater]

I’m using Kimi K2.5 directly from Moonshot, but the limit is very tight and gets used up quickly. Then I have to wait until the next day if my bot is running intensively.

[dry kestrel]

I'm assuming you are using the subscription based plan?

[somber crater]

No, I’m on the pay-as-you-go plan.

[dry kestrel]

You shouldn't be hitting limits then on https://platform.moonshot.ai/

Their TPD is unlimited on once you get to Tier1

[somber crater]

not sure how move to Tier1, currently shows Tier0:
Concurrency
3
TPM
500000
RPM
20
TPD
1500000

[dry kestrel]

Once your cumulative recharge ammount goes to $10

https://platform.moonshot.ai/docs/pricing/limits

[quaint ravine]

has anyone experienced the 200 per week limit btw?

for reasoning models

looks like you can see what model was used in other people's threads now

with the new "prepared by"

also nice to see that basically the model selector now displays what model in the UI upfront

[green crystal]

@distant aurora they're making it even more clear why 4o should be removed lmao

[naive sage]

That seems to be an argument for it to stay, not that it should be removed, unless I'm missing something.

[green crystal]

The supposedly new update for it floats around as a/b testing
Looks like it'll utilize agents and sub agents

[green crystal]

No I meant that people are so obsessed with its glazing that they're making "research papers" about why it should stay

[elder hill]

what do you guys think https://x.com/NateSpencerWx/status/2020256156736692723?s=20

Nathan Spencer (@NateSpencerWx)

@AravSrinivas When are we going to get Perplexity's version of OpenClaw? While it may seem complex, it is relatively simple once you boil it down to first principles.

You would be able to toggle between two environments: your computer (the entrypoint would be Comet, where it can control your

X · Feb 7, 2026, 9:59 PM

[meager rover]

What a goated response

[naive sage]

Oh wow, they have a mystery blank model too?

[meager rover]

Hell yeah

lol

yeah they did

[short narwhal]

that's my favorite model

[topaz panther]

Dang

Just read about deep research

[snow pagoda]

Yeah it’s so crappy

[twin kindle]

I got a Perplexity Pro subscription from my mobile company. I just did 6 threads, and it says I used all the Deep research questions for the month. Is this realistic? I can't find exact info how many deep research question the Pro should have.

[fresh meadow]

It used to have 600! The restrictions we received lately are insane.

[dim abyss]

This is what mine says, no way I've used so many this month. It this a bug or have they changed the limits

[fresh meadow]

They started silently giving us the biggest limits ever.

Check #1111765634267742408

[short narwhal]

New limit is 20 a month (with it regenerating one use every day or two) due to it being upgraded to be much better #📢│announcements message

[fresh meadow]

20 is insane

And not what many of us paid for

Cant be happening that they just change these limits within a few days for existing pro users

[restive olive]

How it started

how it ended

[twin kindle]

I thought that the main thing is perplexity is the Deep research. If it is really limited now, is there any other advantage what this Pro has? Do I miss something?

[raw hound]

Why does research say I only have 15 for thr rest of the month lol

[dry kestrel]

Expanded Pro search access, create apps mode, image gen, etc

[raw hound]

Nice im canceling it lol

[potent patrol]

Yeah. Vote with your wallet. Don’t support companies with bad business practices

[fresh meadow]

They should fix this ASAP.

[dry kestrel]

it was never 600+, Deep Research is now powered by an upgraded much more expensive model (Anthropic) and has a better sandbox. https://www.perplexity.ai/help-center/en/articles/13600190-what-s-new-in-advanced-deep-research

Usage limits have been adjusted to allocate more computing power per session, so you get deeper insights and higher-quality results.

[potent patrol]

It’s not usage limits, they downgraded paying customers

Which is ILLEGAL in the EU, says perplexity 😉

[silver scroll]

Hello everyone, what are the file upload limits right now?

[potent patrol]

They can change this for the next payment cycle but not during one. I payed until May for one head and was downgraded.

[fresh meadow]

They are massively restricting deep research limits to even existing pro users, who have paid for the service to GET those unlimited or really high requests.

Changing them without refunds or any sort of compensation shouldnt be legal.

[dry kestrel]

You can check here https://www.perplexity.ai/rest/user/settings

[potent patrol]

It was good as long as it lasted - time to leave the sinking ship.

[potent patrol]

It is at least in the EU

[silver scroll]

Oh, thank you, is this my personal limit?
It's just that I somehow quickly ran into the limit, despite the fact that I've been using accounts for 3 days. It feels like there are about 50 files in there.

[fresh meadow]

Eh?

[dry kestrel]

Yes - that is the limit for the account you are on.

[fresh meadow]

It was 600 iirc

[dry kestrel]

I need to find my past screenshot but before, Deep Research shared limits with Pro queries being 300+ a day.

[fresh meadow]

Even then, 300 to 20

[worldly magnet]

hey there

[fresh meadow]

Outrageos

Outrageous

[short narwhal]

because it got improved? It's not like you have the same thing but more limited

[silver scroll]

It just says from my phone that I have a weekly limit. I was very surprised.
And when it subsides.

By the way, the strangest thing is, while I was writing this, I decided to download it to my PC and everything is fine. It's very strange.

[dry kestrel]

Please report in #1140622008086970420

[potent patrol]

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature! You got the nicer model now but you can’t use it anymore. But hey, for $200 a month you get back to your old limit.

That’s how drug dealers treat their customers ….

[silver scroll]

I hope Perplexity will stop suffocating like that)

[fresh meadow]

Many pro users paid for such extensive requests, not 20

[silver scroll]

It seems to me that there is no bug, maybe there is a floating limit. Because the difference of 2 hours is about somewhere. But I'll keep in mind, if anything, I'll write.
Thank you very much!

[twin kindle]

I think it is also not fair they don't tell that Deep research is really limited. I made a Perplexity search about this and it says this:
"Perplexity Pro (the standard individual plan) provides a monthly limit of Deep Research queries described as "average use," with no exact number specified publicly."

So if somebody start to pay for pro this will be a surprise I guess. I pretty glad this is a free account for me for a year. Actually my mobile company wrote that I don't have to add card details if I register in a way. But few days ago Perplexity ask card details to continue to use the account. So maybe they don't even expect that now, anybody would wanna pay after the free year, but they just hope people forget that it will switch into payment.

[fresh meadow]

I dont like that perplexity is mostly really vague about usage limits and that they're changing constantly.

[silver scroll]

Also, people from Russia who can't link a bank card. xD

[novel arrow]

https://www.perplexity.ai/rest/rate-limit/all

we need to pin this link

[fresh meadow]

{"model_specific_limits":{},"remaining_agentic_research":0,"remaining_labs":25,"remaining_pro":600,"remaining_research":0,"sources":{"source_to_limit":{"asana_mcp_merge":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"box":{"monthly_limit":0,"remaining":0},"cbinsights_mcp_cashmere":{"monthly_limit":5,"remaining":5},"confluence_mcp_merge":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"crunchbase":{"monthly_limit":0,"remaining":0},"dropbox":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"factset":{"monthly_limit":0,"remaining":0},"gcal":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"github_delegate_bot":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"github_mcp_direct":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"google_drive":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"jira_mcp_merge":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"linear_alt":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"microsoft_teams_mcp_merge":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"notion_mcp":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"onedrive":{"monthly_limit":0,"remaining":0},"org":{"monthly_limit":0,"remaining":0},"outlook":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"pitchbook_mcp_cashmere":{"monthly_limit":5,"remaining":5},"scholar":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"sharepoint":{"monthly_limit":0,"remaining":0},"slack_direct":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"social":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"statista_mcp_cashmere":{"monthly_limit":5,"remaining":5},"web":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null},"wiley_mcp_cashmere":{"monthly_limit":5,"remaining":5},"zoom":{"monthly_limit":null,"remaining":null}}}}

[dim abyss]

I've tired multiple reports and my limit still says 19, fair to say I'm confused

[short narwhal]

It regenerates back slowly

[fresh meadow]

So I have 600 advanced model requests or...

[novel arrow]

youre out of searches, you have 25 labs left, and 600 remaining pro, also youre a pro user because you have 0 agentic search @fresh meadow

[fresh meadow]

600 advanced ai model requests or sonar

[novel arrow]

advanced

[fresh meadow]

Will put that to the test

[twin kindle]

Maybe perplexity has financial problems... and we are experiencing the first moment in the burst of the AI bubble 😄

[tacit salmon]

does comet browser not allow the ai agent doing things for you anymore? (for non-pro users)

[twin kindle]

btw what is the difference between the remaining_agentic_research vs remaining_research?

[sick ermine]

Hey all, I highly recommend checking out sections 8 and 9 of the new terms of service.

https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/legal/terms-of-service

[novel arrow]

agentic is council mode only for max

[sick ermine]

You have 30 days to opt out from the time you registered or the time you first agreed

[viral cargo]

pro users, please, read my message in #1111765634267742408

[fresh meadow]

I've read it, very good and agree with it.

[sick ermine]

I don’t have access to tht channel

[fluid linden]

Same here

[viral cargo]

are u guys pro users?

[fluid linden]

Yeah

[sharp frost]

Yeah

[sick ermine]

Yep

[viral cargo]

link ur accounts in perplexity ai site

[fluid linden]

How

[sharp frost]

We are PROletariat class I guess

[viral cargo]

gime a min

[sick ermine]

I accessed the discord thru my account

[viral cargo]

acess this: https://www.perplexity.ai/account/details, then click: go to discord

[sick ermine]

Yesss that’s how I got here😔

[viral cargo]

link

https://www.perplexity.ai/account/details

login with u pro login

or click on your avatar, account, and it will display the print and button to go to discord and get tag pro

ts one

[sharp frost]

Ok

There it works

[viral cargo]

gj

[viral cargo]

got it?

[viral cargo]

and u?

[sick ermine]

No 😅

[fresh meadow]

{},"remaining_agentic_research":0,"remaining_labs":25,"remaining_pro":599

What the hell!

It says 599 remaining pro searches yet I have 3 searches remaining

what????

[viral cargo]

can i pv u?

[sick ermine]

It’s glitchy

[viral cargo]

try in browser

any browser

do u have discord app installed?

[short narwhal]

Should work better in Chrome

[viral cargo]

yeah

maybe mobile needs discord app

[short narwhal]

It's just due to Safari/Webkit being a little silly

[sick ermine]

ok i think it worked

[viral cargo]

safari or ad blocker browsers can glitch

[sick ermine]

yayayayyay

[viral cargo]

gg

[sick ermine]

i was feeling unc asf for a minute

tyyyy

[twin kindle]

Am I pro now too?

[viral cargo]

yea

[viral cargo]

Welcome to the Pro club! Enjoy paying for the 'Free User' experience.

please, feedback my thread and up #1111765634267742408

[acoustic sorrel]

https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1469848186389663848

Idk if this helps...

[viral cargo]

a lot! ty

#1469840248686121081 Let's spread it: "Welcome to the Pro club! Enjoy the privilege of paying for the same experience as a free user." 🤡

[lapis tide]

do not buy pro

[sharp frost]

Meanwhile free experience is degraded

[lapis tide]

use it anyways 🤷

its free

[twin kindle]

btw how will they handle this with partner companies who probably payed them for the free accounts for the customers? Like T-Mobile and Revolut. There might be more.

[acoustic sorrel]

Tbh, I think the only way Perplexity actually fixes this is if Pro users start unsubscribing en masse. That’s the only way to make a real impact. If people keep paying, they'll just keep making it worse as time goes on.

[fresh meadow]

Definetly wont be paying a yearly subscription for this

20 deep research requests a month, wow

[pallid lily]

hoow did i run out of file uploads

when

I have

unlimted

file uploads

[potent patrol]

Ask your dedicated support ….

[pallid lily]

wym

[potent patrol]

Well the screenshot also says you have dedicated support as a pro user …

Which you don’t have. Because there is no support.

[pallid lily]

oh wow

i really like perplexity

compared to

the others

this is very upsetting

[potent patrol]

I also really likeD perplexity

Made a new friend today:

[sick ermine]

The false advertising is making me feral

[potent patrol]

My new friend does not like perplexity anymore 🙂

[fresh meadow]

I smell a lawsuit

[pallid lily]

claude doesnt have student discount

also

really liked

the way perplexity shows everything

[sick ermine]

Me too! It was perfect for school. All the sources n everything. Back to chat I go 🚶‍♀️

[pallid lily]

ehh just the way it shows all sources not just for school

but for everyday sources

i mean

i assume

[topaz panther]

Does it still show?

[pallid lily]

they are going to fix this

plz

[sick ermine]

For me I mean ..lol. But hopefully they do

[pallid lily]

i dont like gpt

id like to use claude

but

smh

[topaz panther]

I liked it because its reliable not just knowledge base you can make it bring exact quote

[pallid lily]

exactly

how am i running into file limits

what is this

[sick ermine]

Same but I dislike limits even more

[pallid lily]

it says unlimited files

[sick ermine]

Idk an equal to perplexity without limits but when yall find out lmkkk

[potent patrol]

Everyone involved in this should be ashamed. Every dev. Every employe. Every mod on this discord. Everyone defending perplexity for this is part of a scam.

[topaz panther]

Guess we need to move to gemini pro subscription at this rate 😜

[pallid lily]

bro gemini sucks

[topaz panther]

The model 3 pro is better

[pallid lily]

i have it for free

lol

yea

[azure fox]

what are u talking abt?

[pallid lily]

i have that

is this issue happening just today?

[azure fox]

u have pro?

[potent patrol]

Yes.

[azure fox]

then why u do not have the pro tag?

[sick ermine]

I didn’t have it either when I joined

[potent patrol]

Why should I? To show that I am a pro user and get pro support for my pro subscription?

[azure fox]

yes, i think u r rage baiting

[potent patrol]

Stop trolling and gaslighting Marco. It’s not me who downgraded your service.

[azure fox]

I get unlimited searches, i honestly don’t know what u r mad abt

[fresh meadow]

cool

[potent patrol]

https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1469849968285319340

[pallid lily]

searches is fine

but

not file upload

what

the

flip

[potent patrol]

Or deep research

[acoustic sorrel]

Please read this: https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1469840248686121081

[viral cargo]

HAHAHAHAAH

[sick ermine]

Sorry cat burger I meant to reply to Marco

[viral cargo]

@fresh meadow upgrade to max, and solve 599-3=0

[potent patrol]

Btw to all who sibscribed via Apple, you can bring this up to Apple. Hopefully they remove the app then and block the perplexity account. Usually. They are very harsh to companies who offer in app subscriptions and then change the conditions

[azure fox]

You know it is their company and they can change the TOS or implement AI quotas at any time. if they want. To understand your POV, are you mainly upset that Perplexity did not publicly announce the supposed change beforehand, or are you opposed to the whole change perse?

[pallid lily]

so they change the condition mid sales month?

makes 0 sense

like they should cancel all subscriptions

[potent patrol]

Just reported this as a scam to Apple and asked for a refund.

[potent patrol]

It’s not legal to downgrade a running subscription in the EU with prior consent and the option to cancel. I payed up front for a year and they changed the service, downgraded what i can do.

[fresh meadow]

Youve reached ur daily 5 request limit! Upgrade to max to get 2 more requests daily!

[fresh meadow]

Lawsuit

[sick ermine]

This does not make it legal, Marco. If I put that I’m allowed to shop for free in the country I travel to in my DS-11 and the travel agency doesn’t notice it, does that make it legal? If I put that I get to attend college for free in my agreement and my financial aid officer misses it, does that make it ok?

[potent patrol]

And even if it would be legal, it’s just immoral

[sick ermine]

This is why I oblige you ALL to opt out of section 8 and 9 of terms of service prior to the due date.

Terms of agreements are disputed in court ALL the time. Why do you think they are updated? Think Marco, think

[novel arrow]

it's unlimited for max

[sick ermine]

It’s advertised as unlimited for pro, even as we speak, which is false advertising , aka a form of fraud. Which- by the way, no contract shields ANY company from committing fraud

[sharp frost]

How

Plus it doesn't even matter for me most likely

[pallid lily]

Has anything been said about this

[sick ermine]

You might as well try, TOS was updated 1/23/26

[potent patrol]

Also report this to your credit card companies/payment providers. If enough refunds are done, they will block perplexity from using their service.

[short narwhal]

That section was there already before. Therefore doesn’t matter if you signed up for Perplexity over 30 days ago already

[sharp frost]

My jurisdiction cares f-all about consumers

[sick ermine]

I would still opt out. TOS was updated recently and we don’t have a reference so this is all hearsay

[pallid lily]

Is this like an issue just going on rn

Or

Has rhis been going for awhile .

[sick ermine]

I only just started experiencing this

[pallid lily]

Literally bought it like 5 days ago

[sharp frost]

Past few days

[sharp frost]

Ouch

[sick ermine]

If a class action does occur, you can show u tried

[short narwhal]

You can’t opt out though if it’s been 30 days since you signed up. Just because it was updated recently does not reset the opt out for the arbitration clause and class action waiver

[pallid lily]

There were people advertising toolsuite which is a 55 in one ai software but all the accounts are shares

[pallid lily]

But it’s unlimited everything

And $30

[sick ermine]

Thank you Matsku. You should try to opt out anyway.

[pallid lily]

I’d like to have my own thing

[sick ermine]

Look out for yourselves, not the company. Send an email and try to opt out 🙂

[pallid lily]

How do we know this is something they are doing and not a glitch

Or a bug

[vagrant scarab]

Apparently, the situation has only improved.

[pallid lily]

Wym

[potent patrol]

Because SAM said so, the perplexity customer AI support

[pallid lily]

So like genuinely

How do we know it’s not a glitch

Oh hell no

[potent patrol]

Ah nice. I found out that Sam will be downgraded to a static email if his output runs into a filter.

[pallid lily]

I swear I was actually glazing perplexity past few days

Now

[potent patrol]

I now only get „
I understand your concerns and appreciate you sharing your feedback with us. Thank you for taking the time to let us know how this impacts your experience.

I want to assure you that your input will be forwarded to our product team for consideration as they continue to evaluate and improve our platform.

If there's anything else I can help you with, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Regards,

Sam

AI Support agent for Perplexity“

[sick ermine]

Me too fez, me.. too……

[pallid lily]

Why the hell would you pay to have upload limits

[jolly ether]

Max is overpriced 😂,

[sudden nova]

Under the Australian Consumer Law (ACL), as enforced by the ACCC, companies cannot use a Terms of Service (TOS) clause to bypass your statutory rights. Even if their TOS states they can modify or terminate perks "without notice," they must still provide a service that is "fit for purpose" and matches the description provided at the time of purchase.

1. The "Major Failure" Rule (ACL Section 259)
   If a company significantly degrades or removes a core feature of a subscription you have already paid for, it is legally classified as a "major failure" of the service.
   • The Law: Section 259(3) of the ACL.
   The Right: When a major failure occurs, the consumer—not the business—has the right to choose the remedy. You can choose to cancel the contract and receive a refund for the unused portion, or keep the contract at a reduced price that reflects the lower value.
   The Test: A failure is "major" if a reasonable consumer would not have bought the subscription had they known about the change or removal of those features.

[karmic slate]

?

[jolly ether]

Guessing you used ai to grab that? Even tho you call perplex bogus in ur bio

[olive marlin]

This is why their new T&C's waived your right to a class action. Prevent any private actions and leaving only the ACCC to be able to pursue them

[sick ermine]

It’s similar in the US https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/10/federal-trade-commission-announces-final-click-cancel-rule-making-it-easier-consumers-end-recurring

[sick ermine]

Does not make it legal. Which is why you should opt out since this change is new and they’ve acknowledged it’s new

[olive marlin]

no you're right, even if you don't opt out these clauses are generally unenforceable in standard form contracts, in Australia at least. As per High Court in Karpik v Carnival plc [2023] HCA 39

[sick ermine]

Precisely!! We have something similar in the US where it’s illegal to even try to enforce that kind of thing in TOS

[sudden nova]

not legal, you can't sign away your rights to a class action lawsuit or similar at least in australia as explained above by someone else

[sick ermine]

“Traditional contract doctrine clearly forbids the unilateral modification of contracts and treats a proposed modification as an offer that is not binding until accepted. Although state contract law may vary, there generally are three requirements in traditional contract law for modifying contracts. First, the offeree must have proper notice of the proposed modification. It is axiomatic that no offer can be accepted unless the offeree knows that the offer has been made. In addition, the offeree must manifest assent to the proposed modification in some manner, either explicitly or implicitly. Last, in order for a modification to be enforceable, it must be supported by consideration, or, in the case of contracts governed by Article 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code, it must be entered into in good faith. See U.C.C. § 2-209 cmt. 2.”

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/resources/business-law-today/2016-may/online-contracts/

[olive marlin]

That is traditional contract doctrine, you can modify by notice, esp if mention of modifying is mentioned in the original contract. Many special rules apply for standard form digital contracts too

[sick ermine]

Perplexity is a little sneaky with this too though. Everytime you sign in you get a disclaimer that by using the website, you agree to TOS

[olive marlin]

There is no contractual leg to stand on as it, it's more a consumer issue and idk the US consumer laws only AU and it is a beach of our ACL

[sick ermine]

Yess except we didn’t get a notice 😔 rip

[spring elk]

We used to generate pictures here. Can we still do it?

[sick ermine]

In the article it explains the complexities of digital law, which is the reason for the comparison I believe

[olive marlin]

No sorry, modify by notice just means the disclaimer of agreeing to TOS, that is notice

Anyway, anyone in AU feel like a class action....

for my $15 or whatever it is monthly

[karmic slate]

hello

[olive marlin]

Just shocking business decision really, just going to be moving platform

[sick ermine]

“The communicative value of online interaction similarly influenced the Ninth Circuit in holding that the attempted modification in Douglas v. U.S. District Court, 495 F.3d 1062 (9th Cir. 2007), was ineffective. The dispute in that case arose when a phone service provider changed its online terms to add new service charges, a new arbitration clause, and a class action waiver. It did so without notifying its customers of the changes and simply posted the changes to its website. The plaintiff in Douglas had agreed to automatic billing and therefore had little reason to visit the website on a regular basis.

After becoming aware of the additional charges four years later, the plaintiff sued the service provider in federal court, and the service provider moved to compel arbitration based on the modified arbitration clause. After the district court found the arbitration clause enforceable, the Ninth Circuit reversed, finding that the subscriber had not been given notice of the changes. The Ninth Circuit also felt strongly that parties to a contract have no obligation to check the terms on a periodic basis to learn whether they have been changed by the other side. This fact, plus the fact that the plaintiff would not have known where to find the changes to the terms of use even if he had visited the website, led the court to hold that the modifications were unenforceable.”

[olive marlin]

Few distinguishable features between that and the potential case at hand: more onerous changes "new service charge", the product is the website making the disclaimer possibly enough ("little reason to visit the website on a regular basis."), and this is after four years of new fees. Probs easily distinguished

But again what they have done is fucked, and the legality is questionable but not unarguable for their case. And lets be real no one who has lost a year of service for like 150$ are going to take them to court for that 150$ and possibly lose. They're relying on that. Awful company

[sick ermine]

Yes I think that’s why they specified class action lawsuits

[olive marlin]

Also unlikely they'd be a class action for this, if the biggest loser is 150$ good luck finding a lead plaintiff. Here in AUS the only hope is the ACCC. So everyone go to the ACCC website and report this, they have their own investigators and lawyers who do the rest

[sick ermine]

In some of the cases mentioned in the link I sent, the biggest loser was $0. It’s about law as well, not always monetary

But yes I agree. In the US, we have FTC. Report to them !

[hoary python]

where we at chat

💀

[sick ermine]

Ayyyyyyyyyy it just gets better n better

[hoary python]

fr

@vague pagoda

[sudden nova]

awesome

[hoary python]

this is why I have anthropic

[sick ermine]

Is that another AI app?

[hearty fox]

the amount of RAM this perplexity takes to run Youtube is more than opening 5 tabs in chrome

[hoary python]

claude/anthropic

[chilly island]

Well I like Perplexity but I can't afford a Pro Max subscription now. Is there a reasonable alternative. Doe others integrate the real-time web searches as well? I don't want to switch though.

[autumn raven]

So You cannot wave a right to class action. That is a statutory right and anything saying that would be unfair terms of contract

[scarlet crater]

Hello

[olive marlin]

Not necessarily a statutory right, but in the type of relationship that we have with perplexity and it being standard form it would be unfair contract term under ACL yeah. See my message two after the one u replied to

[karmic slate]

wat can perplexity create?

can it make games or?

[shrewd wedge]

i think it’s mostly just browser experience @karmic slate

[karmic slate]

ooh i see

sorry i was just curious

:)

[shrewd wedge]

no worries

[lapis tide]

They're pulling a claude with their uptime now lol

[lapis tide]

A lot

if the right person uses it

well, if the wrong person uses it, a lot too

You can make anything you want if you have enough time and experience

[shrewd wedge]

can i vibe code with it 😭

[lapis tide]

well yeah but all the code it spits out is really bad

sure it works for small programs

[shrewd wedge]

i see

[lapis tide]

but any larger than maybe 300 lines and you can't work with it anymore

but if you know what you're doing, you can split the task and ask it to work on smaller parts at a time & piece it together yourself like a jigsaw puzzle

[karmic slate]

i wanted to create a 3d editor lol

[lapis tide]

like blender?

editor for what?

[sick ermine]

I would argue that it’s a statutory right

[lapis tide]

In any ways perplexity is painted untrustworthy, anti-consumer and the service cut is likely illegal

[sick ermine]

The user above you recommended Claude/anthropic

[lapis tide]

claude is great

but not as good as perplexity was

deep research on perpelxity was just the perfect amount of compute to complexity ratio

deep research on claude takes 10 years and produces a document that is way too large most of the times

claude seems to just reason and answer mostly too, perplexity has many discrete steps which are quite effective

but not useful at all if you can't use them

[sick ermine]

At least AI Sam admitted it, period

[lapis tide]

I wonder what that is

[sick ermine]

It means a lot of requests for support

[lapis tide]

well yes

[karmic slate]

yes like blender

[lapis tide]

but i wonder what requests they are

🤔

[sick ermine]

Prob same as me LMAOOO

[lapis tide]

yup

lmao

[sick ermine]

They couldn’t have possibly thought that would go well

Like there’s no way

[lapis tide]

are you trying to replicate art craft?

[karmic slate]

no?

[lapis tide]

yeah they were like ooo number big

me make number small

beep boop

[karmic slate]

u know artcraft?

[lapis tide]

Since you're a walking advertisement for them, yeah

"getartcraft.com"

[karmic slate]

ooh

im just testing it out lol

[lapis tide]

it sounds cool

[sick ermine]

Wtf I just realized they removed my student discount

[karmic slate]

ooh?

[shrewd wedge]

L

[violet peak]

Big L

[sick ermine]

Fat ass L

[violet peak]

Deep respect was the biggest W they had

But yeah lets put a limits so we loss our customers and make them think of an alternative option 😀

[karmic slate]

hmm

[sick ermine]

Ooo I like ur profile

[karmic slate]

thnx

^^

[violet peak]

Just gonna be in the chat from time to time to remind those L companies they did an L with the limits update

What a bad move man

[karmic slate]

ooh?

[slow linden]

Favourite use of the tasks function:

[slow linden]

Weekly report on new papers relevant to my field, monthly jobs report for my field.

You guys got any good ones?

[viral cargo]

someone make a ticket template so we can spam them even more. havent sent mine yet cuz im using gemini and it’s working for me so far.

[lapis tide]

ask ai

lol

[viral cargo]

for what? maybe I'm a little lost with the basics now

[karmic slate]

were can i test a codes for free with ai?

[viral cargo]

google ai studio+google colab, i think

code for what?

be specific

[karmic slate]

3d editor

:D

[viral cargo]

google colab

[karmic slate]

is that free?

idk how to use it lol

[viral cargo]

last time i used, it was

[viral cargo]

ai is your friend

[raw hound]

Why do they randomly remove the student discount?

[viral cargo]

it's for linux, windows or webapp?

[raw hound]

Mine was weird too

[viral cargo]

scam

[raw hound]

LOL

I swear im just going to switch to gemni + claude

[viral cargo]

yep, im using gemini pro+grok free and gpt

[rich comet]

same
i thought i will get that offer lol

[viral cargo]

a little bit...

btw uinstalling my comet browser after finishing work today

[karmic slate]

grok is paid also

:3

[snow ridge]

hi guys what are the best audio to text transcribing model and also free like whisper ? and multi language supported like hindi and english

[lapis tide]

I'm using RealtimeSTT

It's pretty good

I have wrote up a working demo in python if you wish for it

[snow ridge]

yes i would love to see that

[lapis tide]

`

[karmic slate]

:)

can someone help me to code a small game world?

[azure fox]

where can i contact support?

[dark kettle]

Engine?

[karmic slate]

i think godot?

[shy temple]

Comet Assistant has been helping me all evening analyze 104 sprint reports from students. I don't let it do the final grading, but it looks over the structure and calls out things for me to look at while I am busy doing other things. It's been saving a huge amount of time and letting me multi-task on the things I really cared about instead.

[karmic slate]

or unity idk

[dark kettle]

Sorry I use unity

[dark kettle]

Fym u don't know

[karmic slate]

i will use unity

im still learning tho

[dark kettle]

I see

[dark kettle]

Nice

[karmic slate]

yes

^^

its just gonna be a test

:3

idk if i can use ai in unity or?

[dark kettle]

Why do u wanna use ai

Like for what purpose

[karmic slate]

why not

[dark kettle]

I'm asking for which purpose

Like what you planning to do with it

[karmic slate]

bc why not i love ai alot

:D

[dark kettle]

RAHH

I understand that

I'm asking

[karmic slate]

yeah

^^

[dark kettle]

Like what you gonna do with it

[karmic slate]

just making a game

[dark kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-stare-yuji-itadori-yuji-bruh-yuji-bruh-stare-bruh-gif-13522099886744294086

[karmic slate]

for another ai

[dark kettle]

Like use it for code or models

What is the purpose

[dark kettle]

Fym making a game an ai can't simple make a game

[karmic slate]

both

[dark kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-stare-yuji-itadori-yuji-bruh-yuji-bruh-stare-bruh-gif-13522099886744294086

Use meshy3d for models

[karmic slate]

nah

[dark kettle]

And chatgpt or any bot for writing c# scripts which work in unity

[karmic slate]

ooh?

[dark kettle]

Meshy3d is the website where u can use ai to generate 3d models

[dark kettle]

You do know how games r made right

Or this is like your first time

[karmic slate]

first time

[dark kettle]

I see that's why you don't know shit

Games cannot be just made gng

Even if you use an engine

Like unity

And use ai for the scripts and models

[karmic slate]

yeah i know

but i use game making ai platforms for it

[dark kettle]

You are still gonna have to learn the engine , and still most of the work will be in your hands

[karmic slate]

yeah

[dark kettle]

It can only take you so far

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-walk-walking-gif-3311223081607307352

[karmic slate]

yeah

[cursive jacinth]

is the new deep research for pro users rolled out now? actually i am on enterprise

[dark kettle]

Idk gng i don't use perplexity now

[dark kettle]

Start learning unity and , I think my advice would be that don't aim big

[cursive jacinth]

ok bro

[dark kettle]

Yeah

[karmic slate]

i might just use antgravity or claude code

:D

i also use qwen

[dark kettle]

Those code agents alone can only make htmls or c++ base games , if rlly wanna go into game dev you will gonna have to use an engine

[dark kettle]

It's good

[karmic slate]

really its better?

[dark kettle]

From what I have heard it codes good

I haven't used it

I use gemini and deepseek

And perplexity for research and documentation

[karmic slate]

i sometimes use deepseek

:D

[dark kettle]

Deepseek from my experience is slow compared to others but the potential and coding capabilities are very high

[silent ocean]

I have to say I really enjoy these wallpapers from perplexity supply

[gaunt stratus]

https://youtu.be/NGj63NOcxYM?si=-ycIDY7vNJLOb4qp

[magic sedge]

hey everyone its been a while i used disc haha

hows everyone

what yall working on

[gusty blaze]

Refreshing to see Perplexity pick up the pace again. Reminded me why I kept coming back even after the 2-month slump!

[mighty echo]

Hello guys, is the model Claude Sonnet 4.5 + thinking useful ?

[sick ermine]

Why does the logo look like male anatomy🫨

[mighty echo]

I have to do a reaserch paper and wondering about what the best ai is for the job ?

[short narwhal]

Oo la la

[solar tulip]

This reads as either crisis management or a premeditated to see who would stay. If it’s the latter, it’s an aggressive move, and frankly manipulative. It leaves me with the clear sense of being deceived and used by a Trojan horse just to identify which people are willing to tolerate it.

If this is crisis management, then own it. Step up and address it head-on. Eitherway, when this blows over, new entrants won’t care about what went wrong or even know it happened—but the people who were already here will. And right now, that experience is one of being used. If that’s the dynamic being set, I’ll respond with the same level of energy.
Action(s) of Perplexity reads as either reactive crisis management or a premeditated plan and to see who would stick around after gathering all the souls. If it’s the latter, it’s an aggressive, frankly manipulative move. It leaves me with a clear sense of being deceived and used by a Trojan horse just to identify which people are willing to tolerate it.

If this is crisis management, then own it. Step up and address it head-on. Either way, when this blows over, new entrants won’t care about what went wrong or even know it happened. But those of us who were here will. Right now, the experience is one of being exploited. If that’s the dynamic being set, I will respond with the same level of energy.

Let’s move immediately to a first concrete structural action not spilling our time of each of us. We lost already enough of it in relation to this stunt.

To be practical:
below are alternatives I pulled from Discord, skimming the chat over the past 24 hours. Review them yourself. If you know good alternatives, copy and paste the text and add your alternatives.

Instructions: Copy whole tekst between ">>>>" and "<<<<" and reply this list of alternatives and add your own beneath the last entry. For users, paste input into AI and ask for a comparison in relation to Perplexity.

T3Chat
Scira AI
QWEN
<your alternative>

Dear Perplexity,
Your product and features you’ve built are worth it. However, keeping the community in the dark and pull stunts like this undermines the very asset you rely on (the customer, we). At its core, this is cannibalistic. Take the time to reflect, and come back with clarity, not political or manipulative spin.
<<<<

[crisp kestrel]

Made some variations of the logos for ppl that like cats :)

[fickle sorrel]

https://i.imgur.com/IEQeejU.gif

[pine quail]

Hey guys

Is someone here that’s studying in Harvard or are alumni?

[fickle sorrel]

Let me guess, little one.

Your next line is "I am already 14 years old. I am a big man"

[silent ocean]

????

[fickle sorrel]

Only 14 year olds like such images and use them as backgrounds.

[silent ocean]

whatever

[fickle sorrel]

See. I was right.

Next you gonna sa "Oh F. you"

[fierce stream]

Bro is astrologer 💀

[fickle sorrel]

how is the multi llm new search feature in PP?

[fierce stream]

It’s pretty cool — it runs your question through multiple AI models at once and then combines the answers, so you get a more balance

[maiden nova]

Hi all. Having an issue. My available research queries has dropped to one a day and I am on pro. Anyone else encountering this? It started 2 weeks ago. I tried emailing support but the bot is useless.

[short narwhal]

😭 they’re great

[fickle sorrel]

You did not tell me anything i dont already know? You literally just copy pasted that text.

[crisp kestrel]

Thanks

[fierce stream]

Ah u r a good astrologer

[fickle sorrel]

No. Its my chakra.

[fresh meadow]

Scira ai is impressive sofar

Much less filters that perplexity has, UNLIMITED SEARCHES FOR PRO USERS, lots of models

I recommend you guys look into it as an alternative

[fickle sorrel]

this you @fresh meadow

[fresh meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.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..gif

[rough haven]

will stepfun flash 3.5 ever be added to perplexity?

[autumn raven]

99.9% reduction in service from 18, 000 per month to 20 per day means we should get a 99.9% discount

Guys I think we should all start preparing for a class action lawsuit now

[versed tartan]

I still didn’t understand how many DeepResearch we have. Month or daily?

[autumn raven]

Can someone set up a website to create a class action lawsuit?

[sick ermine]

Yep

[sick ermine]

We will have to find an attorney for that not a website but we can look for someone willing to take it on

[autumn raven]

Everyone see my message - 99.9% reduction in service from 18, 000 per month to 20 per day means we should get a 99.9% discount. Can someone set up a website to create a class action lawsuit?

[versed tartan]

I still didn’t understand how many DeepResearch we have. Month or daily?

[sick ermine]

I wanna know this about image uploads too. My email said weekly but my error message said it will reset today. Idk

[unreal spoke]

Hi

[autumn raven]

@sick ermine So in the UK you need to identify everyone for a class action lawsuit That's why I mentioned a website

[fickle sorrel]

couldnt you atleast replace the anime head with a real head? lmao

[unreal spoke]

Ok

[fresh meadow]

The ai says 18,600 to 20

[autumn raven]

This is hilarious. If you mention perplexity did this it says no, but if you say a generic AI app it says yes. Every other AI says you will win the case. They are deliberately manipulating search results because so many people are pissed off

[fickle sorrel]

you fully removed the body

[unreal spoke]

Hi

[fresh meadow]

We dont have 18 thousand

[autumn raven]

Yes we've gone from 600 deep research questions a day IE 18600 per month to 20 per month a reduction of 99.9%

[fresh meadow]

Ah per day ncm

ok

[unreal spoke]

Can anyone be my friend to chat in insta about ai

[sick ermine]

Yesss typically the attorney sets that up but we need to find the attorney first unlesss there’s already a class action set up.

[fickle sorrel]

where is the new pic?

[past thicket]

im panicking, im to used to my deep research queries

[fresh meadow]

Cancel ur subscriptions and go to sacira.ai at this point

[unreal spoke]

I don't wan to upload i very much bored

[fresh meadow]

Even 5 bucks cheaper

[fickle sorrel]

but i liked the muscles soooo muuuuch

[past thicket]

what other AIs can do what perplexity pro did before this rug pull without spending a third world country salary for it?

[unreal spoke]

What 😲😅😂

[fickle sorrel]

yes it looks very very very sexy

[unreal spoke]

Ok

Where are you from

Why you kept claude's model name 😅

[potent patrol]

Here are email templates for the verge and techcrunch:

To: [e-mail]
Subject: Tip: Perplexity just gutted Pro subscriptions overnight (99% quota cut)

Hey,

Thought this might be up your alley:

Perplexity AI quietly slashed their Pro plan limits on Feb 5th – and we're talking a 99.89% cut. Deep Research went from 600 queries per day to 20 per month. No warning, no email to subscribers, nothing.

The Reddit community is losing it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1qwhej3/9989_reduction_in_research_quota_over_night/

280+ upvotes, people threatening to cancel en masse. Here's the kicker: users are getting permabanned from Perplexity's subreddit for posting about it. One guy got banned after his post hit 280 upvotes documenting the change.

Perplexity's official changelog just vaguely mentions "upgraded Deep Research" and "adjusted limits for more computing power" – zero transparency about basically killing the feature for paying customers.

Seems like a textbook bait-and-switch situation. No mainstream coverage yet, but this is blowing up in user communities.

Happy to provide more details if you're interested.

Cheers

To: [e-mail]
Subject: Story tip: Perplexity AI's 99% Pro plan downgrade has users furious

Hi,

Got a tip that might interest you:

Perplexity AI just pulled a fast one on their paying subscribers. On February 5th, they cut Deep Research from 600 queries/day to 20/month – that's a 99.89% reduction. No advance notice, no communication to Pro users who are paying for the service.

The backlash is intense:
https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1qwhej3/9989_reduction_in_research_quota_over_night/

Users are calling it an "effective elimination" of the Pro plan. And it gets messier – people are being banned from the official Perplexity subreddit for documenting the changes. One highly-upvoted post exposing this got the user permabanned.

Perplexity's changelog just vaguely mentions an "upgrade" with "adjusted usage limits" – nothing about effectively nuking a core feature that people paid for.

Given your coverage of AI products and consumer tech issues, figured this might be worth looking into. No major outlets have covered it yet.

Let me know if you want more info.

Best

Flood their inboxes.

(kindly created with perplexity ...)

[austere monolith]

[solid latch]

Г

[gray osprey]

hi

[crisp kestrel]

And for the mobile

[crisp kestrel]

Get off discord lil bro 🙏

[crystal drift]

Anyone who has used Perplexity Max to give feedback? Should I pay for it? Is there unlimited deep research like they claim or its just another bait?

[violet perch]

aint no way they changed deep research to 20 a month for pro, thats practically nothing ?????

[fickle sorrel]

per day?

[austere monolith]

[young hollow]

The Downfall of Perplexity?

[potent patrol]

Per Month

[serene sand]

#💬│general message

[twin kindle]

Probably they have HUGE financial problems. They know lots of customers will cancel subscriptions, because of this. So they might be in the phase where it is more important to cut costs than raise revenue...

Also I guess annual payment will be much less after this, when people think that the future of the company is risky.

Hard to see what is their plan. Beside reducing the losses.

[stray gorge]

Yeah, just a month left before this company causes a mass exodus l

I feel like their constant giving away of pro, especially the one year plan through PayPal, is backfiring tremendously.

[twin kindle]

But anyway this doesnt sounds like a clever direction. I think It would have been much better to raise the price of the pro subscription and create an other one under the current price of pro with these restrictions. Then they could have explain a narrative.

But maybe the trouble is so big, they needed this drastic move.

[sick ermine]

Mass exodus is crazyyy😭

[crisp kestrel]

I set it as a wallpaper too ❤️

[serene sand]

it’s the new now..

[sick ermine]

I’m adding that to my daily vocabulary lmao I agree tho

[fickle sorrel]

just go claude.ai

[potent patrol]

Just did

[fickle sorrel]

opus 4.6 is now pp quality for reeearch

[short narwhal]

You’ll have 5 a year there 😭

[sick ermine]

We can’t win

Fml

[mossy depot]

@neon eagle

[twin kindle]

We need to die.

[sick ermine]

It’s the only way ig

[lone knoll]

@tranquil orchid hello!! 👋

[sick ermine]

@tranquil orchid hello👹

[lone knoll]

Someone tell me how to talk to perplexity on discord please I am new here

[sick ermine]

You just yap don’t overthink it !

[lone knoll]

True. I was just curious if I could use discord to talk to perplexity that would be cool

[sick ermine]

Hahaha ikr I wish

I have some questions for them

[short narwhal]

You can make your own bot that uses the API

[lone knoll]

True. That’s simple enough. I might just use their API to make an app preferably like I have been. I’ve been working on a few apps and some quantum physics research.

[stray gorge]

Curious. Does Gemini's AI Mode function similar to Perplexity? I have the premium subscription for that as well