💬│general

[tender cradle]

ah!! missed it.
at least work is going well if my bauble collection is not.

Yeah it looks like corroded chrome

[tender cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wire-bubs-bubbles-gif-2834493828443693503

[tender quiver]

I feel like there were very few drops today

[dry kestrel]

still waiting for pplx recap...

[chilly stump]

Will it happen the recap

[tender cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wire-bodie-this-game-is-rigged-gif-10712050

[chilly stump]

Very little activity in the channel this very few drops

[twin grail]

U still got dms uncheck berd

[dry kestrel]

few people talking

no labs does not use sonar

hallo

what's your message stats?

[chilly stump]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-court-stressed-ripping-out-hair-annoyed-gif-2284811132714885181

[viral quest]

way too slow in here this afternoon. I feel chatted out after the last couple of days. haha.

[chilly stump]

True

[wise nova]

What can you say about Xiaomi MiMo V2 Flash?

[chilly stump]

It's awake

[chilly stump]

Have you used it?

[tender cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/son-of-a-bitch-chris-farley-saturday-night-live-god-damn-it-aw-come-one-gif-18069882

for real... I tab away to write two sentences, and... [Collection Ended]

[viral quest]

oh no....I thought you were celebrating the arrival...not cursing the departure!

[wise nova]

Not yet, just read announce

[tender cradle]

🤣

[tender cradle]

funny either way. lol

[tender quiver]

is that the glm model?

[chilly stump]

Llm

https://openrouter.ai/chat?models=xiaomi/mimo-v2-flash:free

[tawny tide]

Good evening, yesterday I accidentally tried to activate Perplexity Premium for businesses, and now it sends this red warning at the top when I open Comet (extremely annoying) can anyone tell me how to remove it thanks a lot

[short narwhal]

Delete the organization within your Perplexity settings

[chilly stump]

@wise nova you can stress Test it:
The numbers Mason, what do they mean?!! 10 23 68 111 8 7 7 47 53 23 63 92 15

[wise nova]

Below are key recommendations from international bodies regarding paid parking, road tolls, congestion pricing, and the introduction of any charges for motor transport. The documents are grouped by organization.

[wise nova]

Unlimited using?

[chilly stump]

It's still reasoning

[wise nova]

How does an OpenRouter compare to Pplx?

[chilly stump]

I think I cooked it 😂

[naive sage]

OpenRouter is not really a monthly subscription - you load credits and then use them at your leisure. You have to pay the actual provider API cost (plus a slight overhead for OpenRouter's take, if your queries exceed a certain amount)... so you miss out on some potential value based on what the providers offer directly, or what PPLX is able to negotiate. The responses are also contingent on pretty much only what the providers support, they don't use Perplexity's enhanced web searches, and they don't have anything like Spaces [as far as I know]... stuff like that.

[distant aurora]

Open router will be verrrry expensive.

Lol.

You won't be able to control token usage.

[naive sage]

For equivalent usage, if you use a lot of stuff, yeah... if you try out just a few things - and are very mindful of your limits (you can set budgets in openrouter) then maybe it's more manageable... depends on what you're doing.

[distant aurora]

You might end up burning money without getting a satisfactory response.

Atleast that's how my experience was on poe.

[wise nova]

What if I use OR only for the free Xiaomi model?

[chilly stump]

Well the model is free right now

[naive sage]

Yeah, lots of people just use it for querying some free models.

[chilly stump]

But I still don't have the answer to The numbers Mason, what do they mean?!! 10 23 68 111 8 7 7 47 53 23 63 92 15

[distant aurora]

Body counts

Of his exes.

[chilly stump]

Gemini runs it better

[distant aurora]

Gemini flash is actually pretty good for free tier.

[chilly stump]

I agree

[distant aurora]

I don't think there's even any limit on it.

[naive sage]

On AI Studio? Yeah, there is.

[distant aurora]

I'm talking about the app.

[naive sage]

Oh, yeah - it's 'general usage' there - subject to throttling on demand, but most people just say it's practically unlimited.

[distant aurora]

I need one of those 8000 mah battery chinese phones.

[naive sage]

But you can only use the non-thinking one with unlimited usage ('general access' subject to throttling)... the thinking version of flash is still not unlimited, which is the really good one. Still, the non-thinking one still scores slightly better than 5.2 non-thinking, according to benchmarks at least.

[wise nova]

Honor Win with 10000mAh

[distant aurora]

Yeah. They added cooling fan too.

[viral quest]

Is "thinking" the same as deep research or does it mean something else?

[distant aurora]

Where?

No it's usually not the same.

[viral quest]

Just in general. Several seem to have the same terminology. Is it just deeper analysis?

[distant aurora]

@green crystal copilot deep research might be better than chatgpt deep research.

[distant aurora]

Thinking = reasoning. Deep research is more like a combination of reasoning and mass web scraping.

[naive sage]

It varies a lot. They usually gather more data, and provide longer responses.. more recent deep research offerings even started embedding multimedia elements in responses. The idea is it's more like a research report. Though it's still well short of than I would usually call a report.

[distant aurora]

Though chatgpt is an exception where thinking outperforms deep research imo.

[naive sage]

I think they probably just haven't updated Deep Research since 5.2 came out, but not sure.

ChatGPT used to have the best one, it's probably still up there at least.

[viral quest]

So use case comparison- when would non-thinking be preferable to thinking? I can do non-thinking all by myself. Haha

[distant aurora]

It's pretty nerfed for the free tier now atleast. Lastest deep research were based on O3 and o4 mini.

[distant aurora]

I would say never, unless you are in a hurry.

Or you want to save tokens.

If you are api user.

[naive sage]

I think the chain of thought reasoning still messes up chatbots sometimes, so if you're really just chatting or conversing / want quick generations. Nowadays, it's good for a lot of tasks... you'll probably get a feel for what you know it can do before having to switch over.

[wise nova]

MiMo: موسcow

Mix of symbols in answer

[chilly stump]

Which answer?

What if the bauble 1st place was awarded 1 month max and the rest 3 months, would that set a competitive scenario?

[tawny tide]

Good evening, yesterday I accidentally tried to activate Perplexity Premium for businesses, and now it sends this red warning at the top when I open Comet (extremely annoying) can anyone tell me how to remove it thanks a lot

[wise nova]

That answer

[sharp shell]

Hi everyone! I’m a Perplexity Pro user and the founder of ECOHEAL (grounding and wellness products brand).
3 weeks ago(12.04) we submitted an application to join the Perplexity Merchant / Instant Buy program so that users can buy our products directly in chat, but we have not received any update yet( SILVER LINE, brand ECOHEAL)
Could someone from the Perplexity team please help check the status of our merchant application or point me to the right contact person for merchant onboarding?
Thank you!

[quaint ravine]

hi

[quaint ravine]

you can try actually clicking on it

and then cancelling etc

[hot marsh]

What’s goin on? Perplexity has the talking system? Or text only?

[quaint ravine]

talking too

[dry kestrel]

Both

[hot marsh]

Can’t really do it, it thinks too hard, ain’t a convo

[pure spade]

Is it down? Perplexity

[hot marsh]

No it’s not down

[quaint ravine]

i see

[dry kestrel]

No

[quaint ravine]

i haven't used it much

[pure spade]

I'm getting errors "Sorry, something went wrong"

[dry kestrel]

Try clearing your cache/cookies

[quaint ravine]

just try again? or it's consistent?

[pure spade]

I've already create a lot of other threads

[quaint ravine]

which model are you using

[pure spade]

Will try that

[dry kestrel]

What platform are you on?

[pure spade]

Tried various

[pure spade]

Browser, phone

Chrome

[quaint ravine]

lemme test a bit

[dry kestrel]

Best to use the Perplexity app while on mobile

[quaint ravine]

gosh still resets back to Best

[dry kestrel]

Not for me

[quaint ravine]

web browser i talking about

since he is using that

on android

?

[dry kestrel]

why use the web browser when on mobile?

[quaint ravine]

security

[pure spade]

Nope rip

[dry kestrel]

That makes no sense

[wise nova]

Baaauuble

[dry kestrel]

Use the mobile app

[quaint ravine]

more software installed means more attack surface

makes complete sense

[dry kestrel]

Not how it works

[pure spade]

Can't use connectors there

[quaint ravine]

yes it is

if u have no software at all, u can't get attacked

balance is usability vs convenience of cuorse

[dry kestrel]

Then why bother getting a phone?

[quaint ravine]

balance is key 🙂

@viral quest wow you got 3 more unique!

[dry kestrel]

Error is likely resulting from using the web browser. Please make a feature request for connectors on mobile #1358914210339360798

[quaint ravine]

android or ios?

no issue here on android

[dry kestrel]

No issue on iOS either

[dry kestrel]

Do you use the Perplexity App on your phone?

[quaint ravine]

with browser?

just seeing if his bug can be reproduced

[dry kestrel]

Do you use the Perplexity App on your phone?

[quaint ravine]

I am testing his conditions

event commands changed btw?

[dry kestrel]

I don't think you understood my question properly

Do you use the Perplexity App on your phone?

[quaint ravine]

I'm not the one that asked for help

😛

[dry kestrel]

I'm asking you

not the person asking for help

[quaint ravine]

why

[pure spade]

Android

[quaint ravine]

try log out and in

[dry kestrel]

Are you switching apps while the response is generating?

[dry kestrel]

They would have already done that after clearing cookies

[pure spade]

I've used this plenty, it's just right now ig

[pure spade]

Nah I get the error almost immediately

[quaint ravine]

odd

[dry kestrel]

Weird, perhaps make a #1140622008086970420

[quaint ravine]

all models?

[dry kestrel]

#💬│general message

[quaint ravine]

that's not all

try Best>?

[dry kestrel]

It shouldn't be happening at all, trying "various" models is enough

[quaint ravine]

yes but more info might be helpful to troubleshoot

if it's only 2 or 3 models, that might point to those specific models being the issue only etc...never know with bugs

event commands have expired buttons now btw?

did anyone work out if Labs resets the counter after 30 days ?

or you need to wait for it to regenerate at ~1-2/day?

[dry kestrel]

It's a rolling window, just like the other models

[quaint ravine]

right so there's no reset

like for example

[dry kestrel]

No, you can learn more here #💬│general message

[quaint ravine]

if you down to 1 left on day 30

it won't go back to 30 on day 31

[vapid nimbus]

Glm 4.7

Is crazy

For the price

💀

[quaint ravine]

how much?

[vapid nimbus]

3 euros bro

[dry kestrel]

very strong performance as well

[quaint ravine]

wow

[dry kestrel]

coming close to opus 4.5

[quaint ravine]

here we go

[vapid nimbus]

Its very close to opus

Very very

[pure spade]

I tried

[dry kestrel]

still waiting for 3rd party benchmarks though

[quaint ravine]

still an issue?

[vapid nimbus]

Ive tried it

[pure spade]

Yeah

[quaint ravine]

sounds like u are frozen out...have u tried on windows?

[dry kestrel]

same

[vapid nimbus]

Intergrated with claude code

[dry kestrel]

their coding plan is a heck of a deal

[vapid nimbus]

Gave it custom mcp servers

And a lot of subagents

I would said with correct prompting it kinda feels outperforming opus

Ngl

[naive sage]

I did not know Flux and Dalle are unlimited.. did someone tell that person who was asking about unlimited image gens a day or two ago?

The one who was generating cars and then saying they didn' look real?

[dry kestrel]

This information comes from an old Perplexity FAQ. I am not sure about now

I haven't hit any image generation limits recently so I couldn't test it out

Will update my faq though Updated

[quaint ravine]

i think we still not clear on whether a reset occurs imo

[wise nova]

MiMo shows me very good results, maybe even better than 5.2 Thinking

[quaint ravine]

what's MiMo?

[vapid nimbus]

Mimi

Xiomis llm

[naive sage]

Xiaomi MiMo-V2-Flash

[quaint ravine]

link?

[wise nova]

Xiaomi new model
https://openrouter.ai/chat?models=xiaomi/mimo-v2-flash:free

[vapid nimbus]

Ive heard its mid

Havent tried it

[quaint ravine]

Modular Interactive Machine Intelligence

?

[naive sage]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-V2-Flash/main/figures/MiMo-v2-flash-performance.jpg

[dry kestrel]

It's okay

not the best but still a strong model

[vapid nimbus]

Is it proprietary

Or nah

[dry kestrel]

os

[vapid nimbus]

Aint no way this is real

[dry kestrel]

It performs pretty good on AA benchmarks

at least for a company that makes every product imaginable

[vapid nimbus]

Isnt thag the old model

[naive sage]

For a free model, that's pretty good

[dry kestrel]

No

[vapid nimbus]

U mean mimi

I thought u meant glm

[dry kestrel]

oh lmao

Yeah GLM 4.7 benchmarks are still not out

[vapid nimbus]

It just came out sooo

[dry kestrel]

mhm

[vapid nimbus]

I still dont belive this

There is no way

[dry kestrel]

I'm still waiting for MiniMax M2.1 benchmarks

[vapid nimbus]

So many models

[dry kestrel]

yep

[vapid nimbus]

I might cancel my claude max plan ngl

And just switch to glm

Its lowkey the same shit

And better limits

[dry kestrel]

Honestly, either switch to GLM/MiniMax/Kimi or use Codex

[vapid nimbus]

Iam a big codex hater

[naive sage]

MiMo lost its mind after two questions and spouted random characters... 😢

[dry kestrel]

Lol, what has Codex done

[vapid nimbus]

Doesnt work for me

Its just garbage

[dry kestrel]

When did you try it?

[vapid nimbus]

A month ago

Its just bad

[dry kestrel]

Hm

[vapid nimbus]

Not good for my coding at least

Many people use it for code analysis

But agentic workflow on codex sucked

[dry kestrel]

It's been pretty good for me, not the best but not the worst either

[vapid nimbus]

Uh idk opus 4.5 has been the best

But glm might win my heart with their pricing

[dry kestrel]

Opus 4.5 is amazing, just the pricing

[vapid nimbus]

200 euros a month

🙏

[dry kestrel]

I ended up switching from my Claude Max 100x to just the Pro

and I've been using other OS models and codex more

[vapid nimbus]

The pro aint worth it for me

Sonnet isnt that good inside of claude code

[dry kestrel]

I don't even use Pro to code now, just general things

[vapid nimbus]

Gotcha

[dry kestrel]

Opus 4.5 uses up like 80% of my usage in one query lol

[vapid nimbus]

They made a new browser integration thingy

For opus

[dry kestrel]

yees

[vapid nimbus]

Its pretty good from what I heard

But with thr existence of mcp server its kinda useless

Ngl

[dry kestrel]

I guess it's just easier to onboard new users

[vapid nimbus]

Its easier to take 200 euros from people that dont have an idea

Hey at least you can teach opus to do shit in your browser

Like draw u stuff inside of a drawing tool that is fully web based

We havent seen thst yet ig

[dry kestrel]

Yep

[viral quest]

Could be cool

[wise nova]

Mimo is hallucinating and makes mistakes

[viral quest]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-oh-here-come-the-hallucinations-patchy-the-pirate-spongebob-squarepants-hallucinations-ai-gif-9231606196116646938

[wise nova]

What better to set?

[viral quest]

What is a presence penalty?

[quaint ravine]

you being present

😛

[shell sphinx]

After the update, the text-to-speech feature disappeared.

[vapid nimbus]

This is really interesting

I dont think we have seen that before

[viral quest]

Have you tried it yet? Just dropped, yes?

[dry kestrel]

dropped 12 ish hours ago

[vapid nimbus]

Yeah its pretty good

[green crystal]

openai

[vapid nimbus]

I rrally like their mcp native servers

[short narwhal]

Another name for this is "interleaved thinking" which is a thing for some models already, like Kimi K2, Claude, Minimax, Gemini and GPT models etc.

[vapid nimbus]

Are you sure? Iam pretth sure it only goes for agentic tools

And as far as I know gemini does not think inbetween calls

At least gemini cli

[short narwhal]

It does

[vapid nimbus]

It does as for cli functionality

Not model thought porccess

[green crystal]

https://blog.stackademic.com/openais-o1-a-new-era-of-reasoning-in-ai-a50b6237e380

[vapid nimbus]

That isnt the same

🥀

[green crystal]

its the basis for it

o3 picked up the rest lol

5 and beyond greatly improved it

in any case glm showcased it because it helps their models allot

[vapid nimbus]

We are talking about tool calls and etc inside of a agentic worflow like claude code for example

[main cobalt]

How do i get comet on my iOS again? I have perplexity Pro

[dry kestrel]

Comet isn't on iOS yet

[green crystal]

yeah all models beyond o3 are capable of it

[main cobalt]

Aah then thats why i can’t find it on AppStore

Is there any aprox. ETA on iOS release?

[vapid nimbus]

Are you talking about codex

[dry kestrel]

Hopefully before end of year, no official ETA

[quaint ravine]

8 days left of the year lol

[main cobalt]

Aaah cool cool, lets hope so then haha

[vapid nimbus]

Because u cant call tools like that inside of the web uu

[green crystal]

any model of openai beyond o3 that can use tools during its reasoning

[vapid nimbus]

I dont mean tools that are included

I mean like bash

[green crystal]

eh it can lol

when it needs to create files or unzip them before working etc it will use its own environment and cli tools to prepare them for work

[vapid nimbus]

We arent talking about the same reasoning

[wise nova]

MiMo

[naive sage]

Wow, it's so smart.

[green crystal]

you mean the preserved thinking that also keeps tool usage in its context right?

[wise nova]

Very Very smart, Genius model

[quaint ravine]

wat

[green crystal]

agi level reasoning

[quaint ravine]

i c

[thin fable]

hello

[viral quest]

Now I want some horchata.

[quaint ravine]

wats that?

[viral quest]

it's a rice based drink. delicious. add rum and you have Rum Chata. LOL

[quaint ravine]

oh wow lol

[ivory wedge]

ive been prompting for 4 days straight for it to kind a break in the end, 25+ sessions, recalls and rebuild from recalls

how accurate is perp realistically when it comes to coding something extremely complex? (for context, im having it conceptually understand the system im trying to build, which is a very advanced pipeline automation system thats extremely flexible and can micromanage tasks, with maximum integration with whatever softwares needed, all dedicated to different personas which focus on multitude of things etc. kinda my own jarvis)

[dry kestrel]

Perplexity is not made for coding, I'd suggest you look into Windsurf/Cursor for something this specific

[ivory wedge]

are their deep reasonings solid for indepth contextual/conceptualization? or would i have to prompt for prompts to feed them better

[dry kestrel]

It depends on what exactly you are looking for, it's best to use the reasoning models like Sonnet 4.5, Kimi K2, for in depth results

[ivory wedge]

okay thank you ill try play w windsurf/cursor

[green crystal]

use codex

[ivory wedge]

would you guys be down to work together for this build? and we open source it as a community thing

its gonna be insanely cracked out sovereign localized nd sexy

[twin grail]

Baubleee

[viral quest]

seems like we are overdue...

[quaint ravine]

welcome back

[twin grail]

Just for a bit

I will offline soon

[quaint ravine]

here it is

[twin grail]

Bauble

[viral quest]

New!! 14 to go!

[quaint ravine]

can't even see it

[twin grail]

Same

[viral quest]

yep. just a poo

[short narwhal]

@dry kestrel woah pplx watermark for screenshots

[wise nova]

Same

[dry kestrel]

wht the

[wise nova]

A Christmas Poo appeared!

[tender quiver]

dangnabbit I missed it

[wise nova]

Feel free, it's just a 💩 not bauble

[twin grail]

@dry kestrel

No way

It’s so cool

[quaint ravine]

wats cool

[spring mica]

Send me one.

[viral quest]

Wow

[wet lintel]

Fuck no

[coral sedge]

Hey guys it actually worked

[dry kestrel]

Yes

Interesting how the branding only shows when the model used sources

[viral quest]

What worked?

[twin grail]

Oh it’s u

[coral sedge]

something from yesterday

[twin grail]

He’s the guy yesterday who have the school mark down grades for charging laptop at school

[viral quest]

OOOOOH!

[coral sedge]

yup

😅

[viral quest]

sorry, didn't remember your username.

[coral sedge]

its fine

[viral quest]

What did you end up doing that worked?

[coral sedge]

oh yeah perplexity

[tender quiver]

Noooo

[viral quest]

another poo....thanks, Bauble God

[coral sedge]

charged my frikin thing overnight

[twin grail]

Told u

[tender quiver]

I need poo baubles

[twin grail]

There’s nothing need to worry about

[dry kestrel]

Nice!

[coral sedge]

@firefly ?

Yay

[twin grail]

Is this the event easter egg ?

[coral sedge]

Idk

probably

[wise nova]

Part II

[coral sedge]

All Hail the Baubles

Wow that made everything quiet...

[wise nova]

Jesus born and Jesus Risen

[terse gazelle]

#35 should be this one

[coral sedge]

What do we do with the baubles bro

what are they for

Gloating?

[wise nova]

Cooking

[coral sedge]

wat

[twin grail]

Ultimate power

[coral sedge]

wat

[twin grail]

Haha just joking

[coral sedge]

U know what

[twin grail]

Its pplx event

[coral sedge]

2nd times the charm

[viral quest]

#📰│server-news message

[coral sedge]

ALL HAIL THE BAUBLES!!!!

[wise nova]

Bubble

[twin grail]

Oh ye 3 months of free pro

[coral sedge]

Wait I have pro

howcome it doesnt show

[twin grail]

This will stack on ur current plan

[twin grail]

Check pinned message

[coral sedge]

No like some people ahve the pro next to the username

[wise nova]

I have not yet used Easter 3month

[terse gazelle]

Excuse me, why the button will be expired in 5 minutes in the event-commands channel now?

[misty sandal]

Yo

[coral sedge]

@twin grail how to get to pinned

[viral quest]

Started a bit ago. No idea. Keep the channel clean maybe? 🤷‍♀️

[coral sedge]

OH IT IS HERE

i am acting like a 5 year old right now dude...

[twin grail]

Relax

It’s okay

[terse gazelle]

I see! I used to check the rank from others command before.

[twin grail]

We’re here to learn and relax

Not being all tough

[terse gazelle]

I have to send the command by myself now

[viral quest]

me too!

they paginated the collection view too to make it smaller in the chat stream.

[dry kestrel]

It's probably an efficiency thing

[solid star]

opus 4.5 is a fucking monster bro

[quaint ravine]

on Claude platform?

[quaint ravine]

what did that involve?

[dry kestrel]

the same thing but with easter eggs

[quaint ravine]

cool

what TV series are people watching these days

[viral quest]

The second season of Fallout started.

I wish they dropped the whole season. I hate to wait between episodes

[quaint ravine]

what's it about?

ah yes

[viral quest]

It's a series based on the Fallout video game

[quaint ravine]

I tend to wait for entire season released

and then only start watching

[viral quest]

but then you have to avoid spoilers for the whole season. haha

[quaint ravine]

okay that doesn't help me lol...dunno much about the game either lol

[quaint ravine]

easy enough...or are u talking about other people talking about it lol

[viral quest]

yes...other people. and then I feel left out when I have to put my fingers in my ears. 🤣

[quaint ravine]

ah that's the issue then lol

[viral quest]

Anyone watching Pluribus?

[quaint ravine]

1997 game?

[dry kestrel]

It's interesting

[viral quest]

Fallout? It's a whole game franchise.

[viral quest]

It is. Cool concept.

[quaint ravine]

In a world overtaken by a mysterious wave of forced happiness, Carol Sturka, one of the immune few, must uncover what's really going on - and save humanity from its artificial bliss.

waat

sounds AI generated

😛

[dry kestrel]

The last episode was, interesting

[quaint ravine]

do i plug my ears?

[viral quest]

I think the last one for the season is this week?

[dry kestrel]

Yes

[viral quest]

Always great to get a good sci-fi series (and not have it canceled right away)

[dry kestrel]

even better since it's by vince gilligan

[viral quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cups-ears-loud-gif-5494245

[quaint ravine]

wat else did he do

ohh

greatest series ever that i still never watchd lol

[viral quest]

Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul...

[dry kestrel]

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/shows-by-vince-gilligan-z.Pg_mmeRmm4VYS_Nm7rLA#0

[quaint ravine]

lol

i might as well chat to PPLX 😛

[viral quest]

The actress that plays Carol Sturka was in Better Call Saul too

[quaint ravine]

you guys into The Boys?

[viral quest]

She is good. annoying...but good.

[quaint ravine]

everyone keeps telling me to watch that

[viral quest]

Not into The Boys.

[dry kestrel]

the lawer

[wise nova]

One bauble and I go sleep

[quaint ravine]

lawyer*

?

[quaint ravine]

hm?

[solid star]

watch it

episode 1 will make you binge watch

[quaint ravine]

I bet

just so many shows

I dunno how you guys keep up

[wise nova]

I don't have a TV, currently. My last one S95D is melted

[quaint ravine]

who watches shows on TV these days 😛

[wise nova]

HDR10+ lovers, no one mobile can't display real dynamic HDR with proper tones and mapping

[quaint ravine]

lol

Spartacus new series?

[viral quest]

laptop, pc, tablet, phone, or 75" tv. Why discriminate? I watch everywhere.

[viral quest]

Did that start yet?

[quaint ravine]

yes

think it's 3 eps in

[viral quest]

oh! I'll have to add it to my watchlist.

previews looked good. but for some reason I thought it was coming out in Jan.

[quaint ravine]

you like the previous ones>?

[viral quest]

yeah

[wise nova]

Perplexity Events is typing...

[quaint ravine]

lol

[viral quest]

how much typing is needed? just drop it!

[quaint ravine]

wat

and here I thought

we were having a nice conversation

haha

maybe if you got Max

[viral quest]

bauble interruptus...

[quaint ravine]

so you like Rum?

[viral quest]

sure.

[quaint ravine]

I didn't realise there're like

white rum, black rum? spice rum?

[distant aurora]

@green crystal https://fxtwitter.com/bycloudai/status/2002347892535930934

bycloud (@bycloudai)

for more context
︀︀
︀︀on OpenAI's MRCR benchmark, curated at contextarena.ai by @DillonUzar , Gemini 3 flash achieved 90% acc @ 1 million ctx
︀︀
︀︀this performance is SoTA across all models, most SoTA models cant even go past 256k ctx
︀︀
︀︀at this length, you cant be using standard attention, it'll perform bad anyways, and ofc it'll be very expensive. (Gemini 3 flash is $0.5 in $3 out)
︀︀
︀︀Some sort of efficient attention is implemented, so thats why the price is hitting the same level as a linear/sparse attention model
︀︀
︀︀BUT linear attention (hybrid) is only good at long ctx bench, and suck at knowledge task. G3F is great at knowledge, even #3 on Artificial Analysis Index.
︀︀
︀︀they cant be using any SSM/mamba variants hybrid (at least w/ standard attn) either as those suck at long ctx. Same as sparse attention, as you can see from DeepSeek 3.2's DSA
︀︀
︀︀So what black magic did they do?
︀︀
︀︀guess i'll…

FxTwitter · Dec 20, 2025, 11:58 AM

[quaint ravine]

is Gemini 3 Pro being updated ?

still says Preview right

[distant aurora]

Yes it will be upgraded with rl to surpass flash.

[quaint ravine]

ah that makes sense

[distant aurora]

@shut dagger this you?

[quaint ravine]

i hope it can improve

in many ways, it sorta regressed compared to 2.5 Pro for me

I wonder why Grok got delayed

[distant aurora]

Even 4.1 is still in beta.

[wise nova]

B a u b l e

[viral quest]

@wise nova is tired and wants a bedtime bauble.....

[naive sage]

One can only speculate, I suppose, unless there's someone from xAI here who would like to share.

[wise nova]

b a u b l e

[quaint ravine]

guess so yea

interesting how it was hyped hard

[wise nova]

Yeah, I want to go sleep

[quaint ravine]

i remember Elon tweeted about 4.20

here we go!

[distant aurora]

https://fxtwitter.com/abhi__br/status/2002960657105539260

Abhishek B R (@abhi__br)

now that's an actual upgrade, bro studied big AI companies first and then built his own

**💬 88 🔁 594 ❤️ 9.8K 👁️ 302.7K **

FxTwitter · Dec 22, 2025, 4:33 AM

[naive sage]

The eggs have disappeared.

[viral quest]

Rare & a New one! 13 to go!

[quaint ravine]

another poo

[naive sage]

I mean the baublers

[tender quiver]

finally I gotit

[wise nova]

Yeahh, poo is collected

[viral quest]

no idea what it looks like...but got it! haha

[distant aurora]

Who was this?

[tender quiver]

I can use it as manure i guess

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/faahhh-fah-faaaahhhhhhhhhh-gif-5689410497065596135

[quaint ravine]

wats that for

[distant aurora]

Cold

[cedar ocean]

perplexity max

peaks

[quaint ravine]

any good?

[dry kestrel]

WHAT

ANOTHER BAUBLE

[quaint ravine]

wat

yea

[twilit dirge]

Lol no

Overpriced shi

[toxic socket]

hi

everyone

[golden rain]

10 x 4 months free google ai pro 💀

[quaint ravine]

how

[indigo valve]

China #1

[quaint ravine]

wow

[golden rain]

google ai pro user’s referral code

[naive sage]

That's a pretty good deal, I didn't know they offered 4 months free on referral

[swift vine]

only in china?

[dry kestrel]

https://x.com/GeminiApp/status/2001014429073465400?s=20

G3mini (@GeminiApp)

Checking your list twice? Google AI Pro members can give the gift of higher access to our AI features and models in two ways:

1) Share the love: You can share your Google AI Pro plan with up to 5 people at no extra cost.

2) Gift a trial: Send a friend an extended 4-month trial

X · Dec 16, 2025, 7:39 PM

[dry kestrel]

Gemini is not available in China

[swift vine]

then how is he getting that offer?

[naive sage]

Why don't they allow people in China to use Gemini?

[swift vine]

well most Chinese people dont use google products already

[dry kestrel]

Users bio say "HK", they have different regulations there

[dry kestrel]

Google product

You can review the allowed regions for Gemini product in their docs

[swift vine]

ahh okay thanks :)

[dry kestrel]

https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/13575153?hl=en

[quaint ravine]

wow

[wet lintel]

B

A

[quaint ravine]

oh wow

welcome back Jason!

where'd u go

[wet lintel]

Its freaking 5:47

Cant sleep

All sleep servers are full

[viral quest]

Bauble fever?

[quaint ravine]

sleep servers?

[wet lintel]

I believe in sleep servers

[quaint ravine]

wow

Jen's biological clock

is timed to bauble drops lol

[stuck shuttle]

same thing ig?

man perplexxity annoys me so much sometimes, why is it not able to access my mails 😭

it directly denies that it cant check my mails

[dry kestrel]

Did you add the connector?

[stuck shuttle]

ofc

it used to work perfectly fine

[dry kestrel]

#1140622008086970420

[urban moss]

for me its works fine

email assistant is one of the best features

[atomic shell]

guys what is this event ?

[naive sage]

#📰│server-news message

[hazy grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/grince-meme-ornament-gif-13008098

Bauble time

[sinful merlin]

🤨🤨🤨

wrong

[quaint ravine]

lol

I wonder if people had like a 24 or 48 hour trial of Max

if more people would use it

would buy it i mean

[sinful merlin]

i havent seen anyone hear talk about max vs pro output

[quaint ravine]

i guess you don't want people abusing Max too

[sinful merlin]

so it cant be that big of a difference

[quaint ravine]

that's cos hardly anyone uses Max

or have actually compared

it's more about limits

rather than output quality

I doubt the output quality is different

[naive sage]

The point of a trial is to introduce the services and features. It doesn't make sense for Max, since Max is basically about removing limits and just adds one more model.

[quaint ravine]

yea used to be 2 more models

[naive sage]

A trial lets people answer the question 'is this for me'

[quaint ravine]

well apparently can access GPT-5 Pro too

[dry kestrel]

you get access to better models, therefore better output

[sinful merlin]

berd

[dry kestrel]

via complexity

[quaint ravine]

he was clearly talking about for the same model

[dry kestrel]

hello

[sinful merlin]

please. i need a voice of reason

its been a month on my ticket. i know you dont work here

[quaint ravine]

oh wow

[sinful merlin]

i just need someone to listen or im talking to the void at this point

[quaint ravine]

so you've waited 1 month for support

here we go

[quaint ravine]

oh this one again

Berd likes it

[dry kestrel]

I'm honestly not too sure, perhaps try opening a new ticket starting with requesting for human support?

[sinful merlin]

berd can you tell me when we get the rewards from this thing?

is it just a month for each one?

[dry kestrel]

Till dec 25

top 10 gets 3 months

[naive sage]

It's like a purple lava lamp. I'm surprised there isn't an ice lava one, for ... ice lava man

[dry kestrel]

learn more here #📰│server-news message

[sinful merlin]

top 10

holy god. too much competition

[dry kestrel]

I got till top 10 in under 2 days

[naive sage]

Most people will probably be offline christmas eve+day... I know I will be.

So others might catch up

[dry kestrel]

I'll probably stop collecting at 45

[quaint ravine]

about 60 hours left right?

[dry kestrel]

Ends at <t:1766702400:t> on December 25, 2025

[distant aurora]

https://fxtwitter.com/Pirat_Nation/status/2003186275881230471

Pirat_Nation 🔴 (@Pirat_Nation)

Users affected by the data breach may be contacted directly by cybercriminals, warns Pornhub.

**💬 113 🔁 84 ❤️ 1.2K 👁️ 85.1K **

FxTwitter · Dec 22, 2025, 7:30 PM

https://fxtwitter.com/floatingkeys/status/2003193816745136215

nobody (@floatingkeys)

@Pirat_Nation >require ID for porn
︀︀>database gets immediately hacked
︀︀
︀︀Who could've seen this coming??

**❤️ 115 👁️ 1.5K **

FxTwitter · Dec 22, 2025, 7:59 PM

Anyone wanna try their luck for lifetime vpn giveaway?

[hazy grotto]

Tailscale?
NordVPN?

[quaint ravine]

what VPN

[stuck shuttle]

yes

[distant aurora]

Windscribe

Check their twitter pinned post.

[quaint ravine]

fow what

[naive sage]

I guess the promotion makes a lot of sense for them, seems like it's designed to try to incentivize social media outreach, and the brand isn't highly recognized.

[quaint ravine]

wonder if the 3 months has expiry date to use?

[naive sage]

I'm pretty sure using it on top of an existing subscription will extend the current subscription, so shouldn't have to worry if you're plan has a lot of time on it left.

[quaint ravine]

yea was more asking expiry to use

like let's say u don't apply it for 6 months

would it stlil be valid

right?

[regal nest]

any support team here to my payment problem solved

[quaint ravine]

not really in this channel

i think Kesku can help tho?

looks like a reddit poster has said Max is better than Pro

for the same model

like better quality output

[viral quest]

Well that's official then 🤣

[quaint ravine]

100% lol

"The pro definitely feel more shallow now, in the past 3 month its may take 5 whole minutes to research any topic but its would be so information dense im pretty sure my phone lagged lmao, now? Yeah its only 2 minute and then the result is fast as hell

Max meanwhile, its still take long as time, and its make my phone lagged but its very information dense"

the problem is that

I don't think people actually know how to conduct a fair test

and many (most?) assume that just cos you do it once

it means that "one time" is always the case

that's just not how AI works

especially when the prompt requires search(ing) web

[serene sand]

please send all the details to our [e-mail] team, they will check and help you with this

[quaint ravine]

does anyone know how those shared around benchmarks are done?

like is it just one run?

or SPRT level runs

wait not SPRT

but I guess "fixed games"

like fixed number of runs with error margins

or is it just "test position" testing?

[viral quest]

And what are they using for testing. Is it an objective outcome or are they not even evaluating the output and only looking at speed?

[quaint ravine]

not sure

maybe they use AI to check responses 😛

[viral quest]

He talked about information being dense. It sounded like research. Is it accurate? Written well? Cited properly?

[quaint ravine]

i think they need to start putting error margins

oh that one...no idea

that's the thing....it's always a vague claim

[viral quest]

Yep.

Instead of min maxing, everyone should use whatever gives them a result they like. Not everyone will agree.

[quaint ravine]

perhaps

[gloomy cipher]

Sam is ai

[gloomy cipher]

Citation in pplx has been so buggy for me

[quaint ravine]

how so?

they changed it recently eh?

i preferred the instant list

[gloomy cipher]

Its answering questions according to Netherland website yet the citation are all about UK

[quaint ravine]

now it's like 1/4

or 1/3

if there are 10

u'd have to click 10x

to look through them

rather than just a big list

that u can pick to click/tap

surprised they made that change tbh

[glad hatch]

.

[gloomy cipher]

That's not how pplx works

[quaint ravine]

it's demonstrable that's exactly how it works

the citations of a response

it should to be when u hover/tap one

[gloomy cipher]

@quaint ravine

[quaint ravine]

it listed all refernces

like when it says +3

that means

here we go!

[quaint ravine]

Jen

[gloomy cipher]

It you to the website

[quaint ravine]

where are u

ah nice

[viral quest]

Got it

[quaint ravine]

lol

[viral quest]

And it was a new one too. 12 to go

[quaint ravine]

oh wow

I've seen that one before

[viral quest]

New to me. I can sleep happy. 😴

[quaint ravine]

the citations may be different with app vs browser etc?

[gloomy cipher]

Browser was the same thing

[quaint ravine]

oh wow it's different

in Chromium Windows

and Chromium android

web

I actually now prefer android way lol

when tap it, it displays all the citation

oh wow

[gloomy cipher]

I think complexity may already do that

[quaint ravine]

not really

even Complexity changes imo

but at least u can see

what model

without having to check/tap it

yes it will still bug out

i've seen GPT-5.2 Thinking go to GPT-5.2 non-thinking

even with Complexity

but with Complexity, u can easily see it

and just change it back

yea it just uses the rest settings thing

[unreal spoke]

Hi

[quaint ravine]

lol

[quaint ravine]

anyone else got cat for discord

lol

not really

you?

[gloomy cipher]

Bauble lunatic

[quaint ravine]

that's Jen imo

[gloomy cipher]

Jen is just prepared to click

You yap all day

[quaint ravine]

no u

[cloud arch]

https://www.perplexity.ai/page/create?
HOw to access perplexity create new page endpoint?

[quaint ravine]

Max might make it easier

[cloud arch]

alredy pro plan

[gloomy cipher]

0.001 $ per ad

[quaint ravine]

real

i c

[quaint ravine]

rare

failed

[terse gazelle]

🥲

[quaint ravine]

yea

how to ads get paid?

[shut dagger]

Oh no! My identity is no longer hidden 😔

[quaint ravine]

i see wow

always the risk of being on social media

what is top 500

[woven glen]

@drifting shadow Hi

[drifting shadow]

Hello

[fathom valve]

why do i have error 'Gemini 3 Pro was inapplicable or unavailable.'?

[quaint ravine]

why indeed

Max might not have that?

[green pond]

Hello

[quaint ravine]

hello?

[gloomy cipher]

Retry

[quaint ravine]

just get Max imo

[gloomy cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-13934442040058043842

[quaint ravine]

it would fix it right?

dunno

just observing facts

[gloomy cipher]

Mwahahaa

[quaint ravine]

lol

it's true tho

[gloomy cipher]

Peasants waiting all their life

[quaint ravine]

facts are facts

[gloomy cipher]

Just to not get first

[quaint ravine]

Max would fix it

[gloomy cipher]

Bro stop yapping

[quaint ravine]

no u

[gloomy cipher]

At least tell a story

[quaint ravine]

honestly tho

Max would fix it

[quaint ravine]

out of context

for example

that last interaction

is a genuine fix

your implication is that it's done out of advertising or spam or whatever

but you haven't countered

logically

that it's not a genuine fix to his issue

[gloomy cipher]

My implication is that you are yapping for baubles

[quaint ravine]

let's say that was true

what's wrong with that?

the literal theme is to keep chat going

this is literally the quote

"The Christmas Spirit is getting ready to sparkle in our ⁠💬│general chat from now until...dropping shiny Christmas baubles for you to collect as long as you keep the chat lively and active. "

[glad hatch]

,

[quaint ravine]

l

[swift vine]

Does anyone here use the Comet browser daily?

[quaint ravine]

likely

[swift vine]

is it good?

im planning to switch from brave

[quaint ravine]

seems good

[river mortar]

Wishing you all a wonderful day!. ..

Hope you all are doing great!

[quaint ravine]

wow

[serene sand]

Comet

[river mortar]

Thanks For sharing the detailed video Mares

[quaint ravine]

very useful eh

[swift vine]

Has anyone ever gotten any personal information leaked while using Comet as much as I have heard online?

[quaint ravine]

dun Think so

[river mortar]

Lol... I'm not much about video. I'd skim through text of do a trial and error

[quaint ravine]

ah right

maybe ask comet to summarise video lol

[river mortar]

Definitely. I give it to comet to summarise for me and will ask them to make bullltins at last

[quaint ravine]

yea

[river mortar]

So far I'm using em like a browser with chat-ability. Never gave them access to anything more that a email ID.

[quaint ravine]

e-mail ID?

[river mortar]

yes

[quaint ravine]

wats that

[river mortar]

we use some things like Gmail.com , outlook.com, Yahoo.com, Yandex.com like that

[swift vine]

okay

[quaint ravine]

wow

yandex?

rlh?

[gloomy cipher]

@Max.com

It think ssj would be interested in this kind of email IDd

[quaint ravine]

wats that

[gloomy cipher]

An e-mail ID

[quaint ravine]

really?

[gloomy cipher]

Imagine [e-mail]

[quaint ravine]

wow

[gloomy cipher]

Or [e-mail]

[quaint ravine]

Max?

[gloomy cipher]

Yea

My favorite one would be [e-mail] tho

[quaint ravine]

seems you the one chatting lol

submail was anotehr good one

now it's gone

https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1pt1gh7/gemini_3_flash_outperforms_gemini_3_pro_in_coding/

Flash better?

[bold cave]

Is the new Xiaomi LLM coming to perplexity? Would be good for the speed. It really sucks meanwhile... https://ai-mimo.com/

[quaint ravine]

oh woiw

probably not?

Kimi got tehre

[bold cave]

I want Mimo!

[river mortar]

What is that disco ball up here ?

[gloomy cipher]

Benchmark?

It's definitely not coming to pplx it's only 7B

[gaunt kite]

👋

[gloomy cipher]

Pplx team cares about model popularity so it's a clear no

[gloomy cipher]

Hewwo

[gaunt kite]

I am new here

[bold cave]

Fuck these Benchmarks. Try your use cases

[quaint ravine]

yea

use case is more imporatnt

benchmarks are sorta artificial

[terse gazelle]

@river mortar

[quaint ravine]

wat

[gloomy cipher]

Some benchmarks can determine the use case

[river mortar]

Thanks miC

[quaint ravine]

what if exception tho?

[quaint ravine]

oh yea

wiliam!

[distant aurora]

@green crystal I have a feeling that the system instructions are different for different levels of reasoning.

[quaint ravine]

max might have different sys insturciton

instructions*

[distant aurora]

I was talking about api.

[quaint ravine]

oh

but yea

Max could easily trigger diffefrent sys

[distant aurora]

Perplexity should consider glm/qwen models.

[quaint ravine]

they did Kimi?

[distant aurora]

Yeah but kimi doesn't support vision.

[quaint ravine]

oh?

u mean interpreting images?

[distant aurora]

Yes

[quaint ravine]

wow

does Kimi platform allow that?

[distant aurora]

Nope

[quaint ravine]

weird

[gloomy cipher]

Glm 4.7

They really are missing out on glm

Glm 4.7 is likely the best model for agentic uses such as controlling the browser

[distant aurora]

How do I open this menu

I can't.

Looks chatgpt plus level.

I don't want to have to use a laptop/mouse just for this.

[gloomy cipher]

Try the desktop mode

[gloomy cipher]

Works for me

[distant aurora]

It only appears once.

Gone after that.

[gloomy cipher]

Use desktop mode

I think its similar to gemini app

It effects your thread

As in the first query

[distant aurora]

It'll probably need mouse hover.

[gloomy cipher]

No i did it without pc

[distant aurora]

It doesn't appear in new chat either.

[gloomy cipher]

Because

You are on glm 4.5

Switch to glm 4.7

Mine is working

[gloomy cipher]

Type something

Enable the advanced search after you have written your query

Also

This isnt the vision model yet

It's glm 4.7

Their latest image model is glm 4.6v

[green crystal]

To get a good experience they do
Otherwise reasoning would be roughly concluded lol

Api I think it's still very changeable

Since there's no sys prompt there
The reasoning effort is a more internal basic instruction I think

[twin grail]

me go reyna

me swing

[gloomy cipher]

steals all the kills

[chilly stump]

Hi

[next dune]

Hi, so currently which model are you guys using for searching or writing?

[tender cradle]

No, specific model for search, just Perplexity. I don't use AI to write directly, but I typically use Claude when I want to review what I've wrote.

[chilly stump]

Gemini flash for search Gemini pro for research

[gloomy cipher]

Gemini flash thinking for searching because i like fast and high quality responses.

[gloomy cipher]

My man

[tender cradle]

what are you writing?

[distant aurora]

Told kimi to follow usdv values but it keeps sticking to icmr values.

[left stream]

LETS GOOOOO

[distant aurora]

Typical failure in instruction following.

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/pakpakthree-gif-16135556887884443801

[gloomy cipher]

What is that?

[distant aurora]

He completed a course.

Seems something related to data handling/security.

[wet lintel]

This image limit so confusing

Changes everyday

[valid charm]

I hope he didn’t use Comet to complete the course

[winter mauve]

ayo guys, do anyone know why don't models reliably write code longer than 600 lines?

[chilly stump]

Entry level data center role on networking, virtualization, storage area networking, unified computing, Cisco ACI.

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-laughing-brown-cat-lmao-rofl-gif-14057163617344906417

[left stream]

that’s smart asf lowkey

but only viable with max users lowkey

weekly limits is gonna make you take forever

and if you get 2-3 answers wrong on the final assessment

good luck