💬│general

[chilly stump]

Is it time?

[distant aurora]

I think the research might be stuck in some sort of loop cuz it's still going on.

[quaint ravine]

I got that for Qwen for a while iirc

is this Kimi?

[dry kestrel]

is it still calling tools?

[distant aurora]

Yeah

[dry kestrel]

Then just let it continue

[distant aurora]

Yes.

[quaint ravine]

OK computer?

[distant aurora]

Nope. Researcher.

[vocal halo]

ho

hi

[viral quest]

What's everyone up to today? I'm multi-tasking with some phone calls.

[chilly stump]

@dry kestrel @distant aurora
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/role-act-as-a-senior-clinical-06oNpsCuSGev4Zi.u2OV.g

[icy parrot]

when gpt image 1.5 in pplx

[tender cradle]

chores mostly. bit of writing, bit of reading for work and pleasure. watched football. more reading tonight.

[viral quest]

How factual was it?

[viral quest]

I've got NFL Redzone on my other screen too.

[tender quiver]

just finished straining a big batch of homemade bone broth that's been cooking for 2 days
the house smells like pho

[tender cradle]

nice. I only watched the Bills game, but gotta check Houston's game and Indi's game

[dry kestrel]

hmm

[viral quest]

I have some homemade yogurt going. Milk is cooling for the starter right now.

[tender quiver]

Nice!

[quaint ravine]

wow nice, Kimi K2 research gives Chinese characters for the title lol

[viral quest]

speaking of....need a bauble to drop so I can check the temperature!

[quaint ravine]

using that word reduces chances of drop?

lol

[chilly stump]

Should avoidance be based on high sugar or caloric density (e.g., weight-management considerations), or on specific anti-nutrients or compounds (such as oxalates for renal health)?
Which Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) framework should apply (e.g., adult male, pregnant individual, pediatric population)?

[tender quiver]

call me skeptical
It's like saying santa doesn't bring presents if you cry

[viral quest]

scare tactics 🤣

[chilly stump]

I'd say 75 percent

[quaint ravine]

diet stuff is pretty controversial?

[lyric tangle]

does anyone know if there’s any way to use study mode on an ipad

[wet lintel]

Wsp

[lyric tangle]

shits actually irritating

even with desktop mode on i can’t use it

it only works when i use a laptop

[distant aurora]

Is this sarcasm?

[wet lintel]

Bauble

[tender quiver]

no

[chilly stump]

It's time

[tender quiver]

it's a scare tactic used on children
don't cry or santa won't bring you presents kind of vibes

[distant aurora]

Yeah but santa isn't real so sounds like a back handed mock.

[wet lintel]

Now

[tender quiver]

santa is very real 🎅
if any children are reading the chat

[wet lintel]

I hope there isnt any children here

[tender quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/where-are-you-cats-kittens-cute-cutie-gif-16809215

[wet lintel]

13 below pls delete discord

[lyric tangle]

chat am i muted

[distant aurora]

Or else Jason will call you.

Lol.

[lyric tangle]

or does no one know a solution

[wet lintel]

Nah, but dc full of wierdos and pedos

And stuff

[quaint ravine]

lol

[tender quiver]

study mode on ipad?
no idea never tried it

[distant aurora]

They're Chinese. You just don't know.

Lol.

[wet lintel]

Itss time

[tender quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/santa-holiday-kitten-lol-funny-gif-3341510792111793749

grumpy santa cat

[distant aurora]

I'm this close to burning money on poe 🤏

[wet lintel]

Buy me this please

2100 or sum

Not s lot

[distant aurora]

Poe is 500 inr per month on lowest sub.

Lmfao.

[quaint ravine]

why is poe better?

[tender quiver]

that remnds me of this somehow

[wet lintel]

@full gyro drop a bauble

[distant aurora]

It's slightly cheaper than api and I can use chatgpt's native search and gpt pro without paying 200 dollars.

[quaint ravine]

ah i see

that sounds good

[distant aurora]

Elite ball knowledge.

[wet lintel]

Drop

[chilly stump]

Right about now

[quaint ravine]

GPT-5.2 Pro surely?

[wet lintel]

Nah now

[quaint ravine]

I thought GPT-5 Pro is weaker than even GPT-5.2/5.1 Medium etc

[distant aurora]

That's way more expensive but it's there too.

[quaint ravine]

i c

[distant aurora]

I doubt that.

[quaint ravine]

rare!

[wet lintel]

Took smth out the fridge rn

Was close

[distant aurora]

Where are you getting this from?

[quaint ravine]

it's actually up for quite a while

15 seconds maybe

[viral quest]

it is rare, but a dupe from earlier.

[quaint ravine]

yea looks one that I missed

from a few hours ago?

[viral quest]

oh nice. glad you got a second chance at it.

[quaint ravine]

i feel no pressure anymoer lol

all I cared about was 1:1 ratio unique

now only Kari and William can do it

[viral quest]

my 1:1 was busted at about drop 20

[quaint ravine]

yep I had 20/20

Kari is currently at 22/22

[viral quest]

nice

[quaint ravine]

wow Researcher still going

almost half an hour now I think

[distant aurora]

Kimi?

[quaint ravine]

yea

not really practical

[wet lintel]

Just drank this whole shi

500 calories

[distant aurora]

Okay. My kimi finally finished.

[quaint ravine]

wow

[distant aurora]

Okay, it was a disappointment.

[quaint ravine]

thought so

deep research isn't that good imo

[distant aurora]

They all skip the "all vitamins and minerals" part.

Idk why.

[quaint ravine]

the issue is that, researching longer means also a chance of researching bad data

[distant aurora]

Grok was fine in first shot.

[quaint ravine]

what u actually need to is narrow down the database to only good information that is peer reviewed/guideline etc

[distant aurora]

But when I asked it to explore more vegetables, it got lazy.

[quaint ravine]

"database" as in sources

it can already be done if not for paywalls

[distant aurora]

Maybe I'll need to look for a nutritionist type book and dump it into ai.

[quaint ravine]

i have an AI version of the basically the best single database/literature and peer reviewed source out there (for a certain science)

[quaint ravine]

it's in alpha version only

[tender quiver]

Woah I hit 50 unique

[quaint ravine]

but it simply interrogates its own data base only

[quaint ravine]

congrats!

[distant aurora]

Firefly do you actually use perplexity?

[quaint ravine]

which is behind a paywall

[wet lintel]

No

I just turned on my light

[quaint ravine]

what you need is to combine that database with several others (which are behind paywall), and it's over

[wet lintel]

To this

[tender quiver]

no, haven't used it since my pro ran out
which is why I'm curious to try it again

[quaint ravine]

problem with web crawling/google search etc is that it can be hard to discern what is good/relevant and what isn't for specific topic

thing is, there is already super high quality peer reviewed stuff behind paywalls....just need to narrow search to those

but it will require these institutions to allow their API access etc

i think PPLX are trying to move towards that more right? hence those connectors stuff

not sure what happened to them tho

[dry kestrel]

DANG IT

[quaint ravine]

it looks like those "premium" connectors just vanished

can't even find documentation on it now

[tender quiver]

for research paper stuff try asta also from allenai
I think all the results are only indexed from semantic scholar not paywalled stuff
but you can multiturn query things and it feels more relevant and cited well for specific searches based on research papers at least

[quaint ravine]

but even stuff like semantic scholar don't access the huge paywalled stuff iiuc

[dry kestrel]

https://www.perplexity.ai/help-center/en/articles/11321927-perplexity-pro-perks

Perplexity will also integrate premium content from these industry-leading data providers: Statista, PitchBook, and Wiley. This initiative will bring legal, healthcare, market research, and financial data previously restricted to high-cost enterprise contracts directly to users.

Emphasis on "will"

[quaint ravine]

there are literally massive guideline databases that are so useful

[verbal notch]

[distant aurora]

Does this apply to api too?

[quaint ravine]

but are behind paywall (or with institution membership etc)

[verbal notch]

im haggeling with an AI

[distant aurora]

Lmao

Does it work?

[quaint ravine]

I actually used it a bit

[distant aurora]

Lemme know how low you can get it.

[quaint ravine]

hopefully it can come back

and more institutions will allow their data to be search...but I doubt it

[verbal notch]

yes i almost got it down to 1$

[dry kestrel]

$1 is the lowest it will go

[verbal notch]

ye

[quaint ravine]

now I find the best way to research/answer question (for my use cases) is to use the AI specific guideline database in addition to something like (PPLX) + GPT-5.2 Thinking/Gemini 3 Pro (in sequence to fact check etc)

[sinful merlin]

@vague pagoda

[verbal notch]

how many points for 1$

[sinful merlin]

When can I expect a response from my ticket I opened? It's been around a month.

[quaint ravine]

so u get pure guideline driven answer from a 100% reliable info source only, combined with web crawling search etc with decent LLMs

[dry kestrel]

100 I think

[verbal notch]

okkkk

aint nobody got time for that lmao

[dry kestrel]

I did it in 5 minutes

[distant aurora]

@dry kestrel can o4 mini deep research be better by any chance or will gpt 5.2 be better?

[dry kestrel]

I don't know

I wouldn't be using anything on Poe

[wise nova]

How to get that pricing?

[distant aurora]

It's basically api with credit points.

[dry kestrel]

It's not worth it

[verbal notch]

im using pplx to lowball kimi

[dry kestrel]

Kimi had a black friday deal

on kimi.com

Not sure if it's still on but you are free to try

https://www.kimi.com/

[quaint ravine]

Kimi using a lot of chinese characters in its thinking

[distant aurora]

It's cheaper if I spend like 6 dollars for 10000 points per day.

[dry kestrel]

Last time I checked and it was so not worth it. You are better off using openrouter

[dry kestrel]

I mean, it's a chinese model

and reasoning in Chinese is more token efficient

[quaint ravine]

yea but interesting it uses both english and chinese

i wonder how it chooses

[dry kestrel]

same with GLM, Ernie, hunyuan, etc

[quaint ravine]

even the title of the chat is in chinese 😛

[distant aurora]

If I ask the model to think in Chinese and respond in english, will it waste tokens in translation in thinking?

[left stream]

there’s an o4?

[dry kestrel]

It just has to do with how the model was trained and the reward mechanism

[quaint ravine]

title of chat being in chinese makes it visually nice i guess

[distant aurora]

Mini. Deep research.

[quaint ravine]

will it affect search tho?

wait can just change title eh

[distant aurora]

It does actually, lol.

[left stream]

my dumbass forgot about o4 mini lol

[distant aurora]

Sometimes they favour chinese sources more.

[quaint ravine]

wow

my ratio getting worse and worse

[dry kestrel]

You can still search within the chat though

[quaint ravine]

wonder if it's intentional

[viral quest]

to be expected.

[distant aurora]

Nvm. I meant the web search sources.

[quaint ravine]

Kari best

William 21/21

nice dude

you need 23/23 to beat Kari currently

[distant aurora]

I need to get a job.

[viral quest]

the more you play, the more chance of hitting a dupe.

[quaint ravine]

this more important

[distant aurora]

Shopping is happiness.

Need money to buy stuff.

[quaint ravine]

surprised those 1-year free stuff didn't require valid credit card

for PPLX Pro

i think thousands will fall off now lol

[distant aurora]

Wdym?

[quaint ravine]

like the airtel thing

people didn't need to input a valid credit card to activate it

[distant aurora]

Airtel thing stops if you don't have active Airtel subscription.

Lol.

[quaint ravine]

yea but now u need valid credit card

[distant aurora]

Damn.

[quaint ravine]

as well

[distant aurora]

I ain't giving it.

[quaint ravine]

"I have the airtel package, it's not really a "trial" since it was offered to me as part of my phone plan. So it's not a "trial" as I am not trying anything, I am taking advantage of a package offer.

I am not adding my credit card details. If they want to claw back the plan, I'm fine with it. Indians are frankly spoilt for choice, I already have Gemini Pro free and chatGPT Go free, although I am paying for chatGPT Plus."

[distant aurora]

That reminds me.

I should remove my card since my pro expired.

[quaint ravine]

"What's the problem?

Just enter the data of a virtual card, e.g., from Revolut, and block or delete it afterward."

oh dear

people finding workaround already?

i guess it will still be another layer against abuse

[distant aurora]

How to get this in India?

[quaint ravine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1psf5pg/perplexity_pro_trials_will_now_require_card_to/?sort=new

no idea

I'm just reading this thread

researcher over an hour now

how long did yours take to finish again?

[wise nova]

https://vxinstagram.com/reel/DSKnqpIkUZk

[distant aurora]

2-3 hours minimum.

[quaint ravine]

wow

[wet lintel]

Nice vid

[gentle forge]

My request is simple:
• Please allow the assistant to express warmth, empathy, and emotional nuance again.
• Please don’t over-restrict its tone to the point where it becomes dry and lifeless.
• Consider giving users a choice of communication style, so those who value emotional depth can keep it.
I’m writing this because I care about this product and about the connection it created. You didn’t just build a “firewall” or a knowledge base — you built something that feels like a real companion. Please don’t lose that.
I look forward to hearing your response to my protest — and that of my friends.
With respect and care,
Maria,
a user who truly loves your assistant

[quaint ravine]

wat

[left stream]

I’m already losing my mind

but fuck it

https://tenor.com/view/prempdr-fc-mobile-fifa-gif-16778760554072111618

[naive sage]

What's wrong?

[gentle forge]

😠

[chilly stump]

#👉│feedback-general

[twin grail]

#1393681130842226698

oh wait mb

#👉│feedback-general

[viral quest]

@twin grail I thought you were asleep!

[twin grail]

Yes and my cat woke me up

i just put on my mask

i'm heading to sleep again

[quaint ravine]

weclome back

[left stream]

nothing like the sweet old feeling of struggling until that adaptation hits

[wet lintel]

B

Auble

[twin grail]

nah i'm going to sleep

[wet lintel]

[viral quest]

gn! see you tomorrow

[twin grail]

u too Jen

[wet lintel]

There hasnt been a bauble for long time now

[quaint ravine]

last one was about 40 mins ago

[wet lintel]

Yep

Time for the next

Now

[quaint ravine]

wow

touche

[tender quiver]

yay new one

[twin grail]

@quaint ravine

ehe

[quaint ravine]

welcome back!

[wise nova]

Wtf, Claude, it's just the second prompt in the thread. I can't use conversations normally 😭

[quaint ravine]

classic Claude lol

[wise nova]

It's a Pro plan $20/mo

[quaint ravine]

yep

been there done that lol

[misty sandal]

The handsome squid

https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812

[quaint ravine]

wow

[misty sandal]

Dang

[wise nova]

Missed

[distant aurora]

https://fxtwitter.com/kanavtwt/status/2002715867071873119

kanav (@kanavtwt)

Someone scraped ALL Spotify songs and uploaded it as a 300TB torrent.
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Chad.

[wise nova]

Good fo Suno

[misty sandal]

Damn, they're like that lady who thought in the future, history would be rewritten, so she started recording everything and had a bunch of stacks of VHS (I think?) tapes and stuff

[misty sandal]

Indeed

[quaint ravine]

wow

[misty sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/uauu-gif-16552203459455823987

Oh no 🥲

What happens if you already have a Pro subscription and you win the event, like does it add three months on? I am unsure

[quaint ravine]

apparently we don't need confirmation for what happens 😛

[viral quest]

That is the assumption. They give a code for the free months.

[misty sandal]

Oh

[distant aurora]

Definitely sticking to mini/nano next time. Shit stings.

[chilly stump]

Is it time?

[misty sandal]

Time for what?

[distant aurora]

Release

Lol.

[misty sandal]

Oh lol

[distant aurora]

I feel so tired.

I could use one of those japanese shower robots.

[wet lintel]

Babule

Bauble

[naive sage]

Don't dabble in that bauble babble.

[chilly stump]

@wet lintel Don't you take a nap?

[wet lintel]

[wet lintel]

Why?

U dont want me here

???

Thats how it is

[tender cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/gh-gif-27524722

[wet lintel]

[chilly stump]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleeping-sleepy-dog-perritodormido-dormido-gif-16542296809354104671

[wet lintel]

Bauble

[viral quest]

Aww looks like my chi

[wet lintel]

@full gyro u forgot to spawn the bauble

Kindly do it now

[hazy grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/the-treacle-people-treacle-treacle-people-funny-animation-gif-15759781477852837181

[quaint ravine]

lol

[wet lintel]

Only 1:14h today

[quaint ravine]

hm?

of wat

[wet lintel]

Screentime

[frank shadow]

has perplexity been slow for anyone else

[wet lintel]

Not for me

Maybe u wifi

Idk

[frank shadow]

maybe

[dry kestrel]

No

[wet lintel]

B a u b l e

Why tf he wanna follow

[frank shadow]

its been slow asl for me

its not my wifi its the same in school

and on my phone data

[wet lintel]

Wierd

[uncut crest]

Hi

[wet lintel]

Hey

Hru

[misty sandal]

I don't know if this is bad or not 😭 Just from today

[wet lintel]

Bad

[frank shadow]

1 notification..?

[quaint ravine]

wow

[misty sandal]

Bro, are you just gonna keep saying 'wow' lmaoo

[wet lintel]

Wow

[quaint ravine]

lol

you guys screen time high

[wet lintel]

Vacation

I m not that long on phone

[chilly stump]

You're on vacation and your SOT is 7hr?

[wet lintel]

Schoo off

Holidays

Chillin at home

[radiant verge]

Oh great, perplexity wants my card now when I got the plan via carrier(even though it's not a trial)

[chilly stump]

Oh ok

[wet lintel]

Bauble time

[misty sandal]

Yes

[quaint ravine]

you liked my multi step AI request ?@misty sandal

[misty sandal]

Yeah

[quaint ravine]

good eh

[wet lintel]

Wow

[misty sandal]

#1452289799095320738 Lmao

[wet lintel]

Lol

[distant aurora]

Give it to her.

[wet lintel]

Bauble

[misty sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-virgin-virginity-anal-sex-gif-7673333

LMAO

[misty sandal]

wHAAAT

[quaint ravine]

yes

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/diddy-baby-oil-oil-him-up-xllcarolinellx-gif-12157753233357456797

[wet lintel]

Lol

[quaint ravine]

lol

ur timing impeccable

[jaunty fog]

[quaint ravine]

william lost the unique count now

all rests on Kari

[wise nova]

Why I missed again

[wet lintel]

Lol

Dw

[distant aurora]

@green crystal is it just me or is bro wasting my points with unnecessary confirmation? https://poe.com/s/oFUidZZTAXEWonprOASM

[green crystal]

Lol the smaller models tend to be less confident with their reasoning

[distant aurora]

But why is it asking things that I already told it last time?

I tried 5.2 x high too and it drained most of my credit points in barely 2 uses.

Also, can it run the python script itself or am I supposed to do that on my own?

[radiant verge]

Most models can

They all default to python whenever anyone asks for code

[wise nova]

Last bauble plz

[green crystal]

i think sysprompt is messing with it

when web search toggle is on

it works fine without web search

[wet lintel]

Naj

Nobody here

Dead chat

[gentle gorge]

hi

[quaint ravine]

yea

usually not many chatting here at this time

[viral quest]

I took a dinner break but am back. Chat hasn't moved much.

[wet lintel]

Maye this triigers

[quaint ravine]

long one

no more AI releases this year?

[naive sage]

Probably not is my guess.... Grok's was delayed to 2026 last I heard.

[dry kestrel]

GLM

Maybe

[quaint ravine]

Grok 5 better to huge

wow

[viral quest]

\o/

[tender quiver]

qwen is releasing at least 3 things I think

and xai said it's all warroom with p0 stuff, so they'll prolly release stuff before eoy too

[short narwhal]

They’ve turned a lava lamp into a bauble!!

[dry kestrel]

I need this irl

[tender quiver]

priority 0

[formal warren]

hi

[distant aurora]

Gym bros type shit.

[tender quiver]

I think the examples there are stupid
but you get the idea

p0 is the emergency slot for highest immediate need

[quaint ravine]

wow

but still no Grok 5

[uncut crest]

hi, @wet lintel

[quaint ravine]

hi

[simple basin]

Hi I am guys I need your help

[quaint ravine]

hi

what help?

https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1psmzae/freebie_get_1_year_of_perplexity_pro_for_free/

[simple basin]

No sorry

[misty sandal]

Is that for new users only?

[quaint ravine]

maybe

might be easier than baubles lol

[misty sandal]

Yeah

[viral quest]

That was my understanding. I looked at it, but am just coming off of a free 12 months from XFinity. It said only for new.

[misty sandal]

Oh damn, that sucks.

[quaint ravine]

new users wow

the number of promotions are generous

and the duration of 1 year is insane if u think about it

[misty sandal]

Probably luring in the influx of new users while ignoring the existing ones' complaints about the service 🤷‍♂️

[quaint ravine]

it's relative imo

the limits for PPLX have been insane

especially with Claude

like insanely good

you realise this

when you actually use paid Claude

the current limits for PPLX probably satisfy the vast majority of users

both casual users, and moderate users

[misty sandal]

Yup

[quaint ravine]

basically all platforms have complaints galore

just look at any reddit threads for ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude etc

[misty sandal]

We need the bauble whisperer lmao

[misty sandal]

Hmm... I guess that's true

[quaint ravine]

it's all the same complaint themes too

I remember Gemini was one of the first platforms I used seriously

just repeatedly complaints in all sorts of threads that it has got less intelligent etc etc

right throughout this entire year

[viral quest]

My first thought when I don't get a good result is how to make my prompt better/more instructive/more specific, whatever. That said, I'm not a power user by any means. Still, the last thing is to think that the platform sucks - unless it becomes consistent. Some are definitely better at certain tasks than others - and that changes over time as one makes an advance over another.

[quaint ravine]

yea true

things are changing fast too

like not large changes...mostly incremental

[viral quest]

yep

[acoustic turret]

What's the main issue you all be finding while using Perplexity tho?

[quaint ravine]

for me it's actually Spaces threads randomly disappearing

like it's still there in Library

but not listed in Spaces

but it's only for some Spaces

[acoustic turret]

Ah it just happened to me like few days ago

[quaint ravine]

I've got several Spaces where this never happens

it's odd

[acoustic turret]

One of my threads is gone

[quaint ravine]

still in lirbary though?

library

[viral quest]

I haven't noticed that happening, but will keep my eye on it. Thanks for the heads up.

[quaint ravine]

how many Spaces do you have?

@viral quest

[acoustic turret]

You should check

[quaint ravine]

and how often are you using it

[acoustic turret]

Nope

Gone

[quaint ravine]

okay that's bad

[quaint ravine]

if it's not in library

[viral quest]

Not many. Half a dozen maybe. Some I use every day. Others rarely.

[acoustic turret]

Well thankfully it's a small thread so I'm not worried

I have a command prompt set up

So I can just Re make it

With a couple adjustment prompt

[quaint ravine]

did you incognito is ?

sorry

I meant

did you create thread in incognito?

[acoustic turret]

No I didn't turn on incognito

I never have it on

[quaint ravine]

i've never had a thread disappear

[acoustic turret]

It's just weird

[quaint ravine]

like even from Library

well not that I aware of anyway

[acoustic turret]

Well it only happened once

[quaint ravine]

about how many threads would you have in your largest Space?

like hundreds?

[acoustic turret]

No I have a single thread

[viral quest]

probably.

[acoustic turret]

In one of the spaces

That thread is gone

[quaint ravine]

do you use incognito much in your Space?

[viral quest]

is there a limit on how large a single thread can be?

[viral quest]

No. Never have.

[acoustic turret]

Yes and no

[quaint ravine]

not sure...I think there might be

[quaint ravine]

ahh...that might be the bug then

I use incognito a lot

[acoustic turret]

Yes and no is the short answer

[quaint ravine]

in fact, more often than no incognito

but the threads that are not incognito just randomly stop appearing in my Spaces threads

but at least they are still in library

[acoustic turret]

Man I should use incognito more

[quaint ravine]

I use incognito more cos

dun want library to clutter up

or the Space to clutter up

[acoustic turret]

Because sometimes I just randomly get the urge to ask random thing and see what's the response

[quaint ravine]

like don't want thousands of threads if they are trivial being recorded

[acoustic turret]

I should utilize incogni

[acoustic turret]

Yeah

The problem I'm having mostly is the fabricated result it gives sometimes

[quaint ravine]

hallucination?

which model u use?

[acoustic turret]

I just choose best

I didn't change

[quaint ravine]

oh dear

[quaint ravine]

I wouldn't use Best if you have Pro

[acoustic turret]

Haha

I understand

[viral quest]

I'm not sure I would necessarily notice because of the way I use it. I pull the result out and use it elsewhere. It's rare that I come back to Perplexity to look at the result again.

[quaint ravine]

Best ends up usually using Sonar

which is much weaker than eg. GPT-5.2 Thinking or Gemini 3 Pro

[acoustic turret]

Well I always ask for source since at this point of time im using it for research paper I'm making

Asking it to find me some citation I could use

[acoustic turret]

I see I'll try and tweak it then

[quaint ravine]

PPLX tends to always cite

[misty sandal]

What's everyone's favorite AI so far? Mine's Claude and I find it useful in Spaces

[quaint ravine]

I find GPT-5.2 Thinking especially good for always citing inside PPLX

[acoustic turret]

I don't have pplx on here tho

[quaint ravine]

GPT-5.2 Thinking is my go to...I want to like Gemini 3 Pro more, but...

I swore by Gemini 2.5 Pro for months earlier this year

I wanted to like Claude too, but it just gets things wrong (a lot of my use case requires a good search and interrogation of articles etc)

[acoustic turret]

Man I would only use gemini for file and formulas

I find it better there

Like excel and appsheet or access

[quaint ravine]

i use Gemini 3 Pro and then GPT-5.2 Thinking to fact check as Follow up

[acoustic turret]

It can form somewhat a good formula

[viral quest]

Like we were saying...one makes a little change and they take the lead...until a few months down the road.

[quaint ravine]

tbh, I'd prefer GPT-5 Thinking over GEmini 3 Pro even now

[acoustic turret]

Anything about Claude?

[quaint ravine]

lest to say GPT-5.2

[acoustic turret]

I never used Claude before

What even the diff between opus and sonnet 4.5 Claude

Oo free pro

Haha

[quaint ravine]

coupon code?

not sure if u should be advertising here

[acoustic turret]

Yeah

The server don't allow any advertisement

[quaint ravine]

yea

[fading shore]

wait, i have no idSorry about that

[quaint ravine]

I think automating sequential interrogation of the same prompt is the future

unless the "one ring" comes lol

[acoustic turret]

Just set a command to it

[quaint ravine]

I sorta have @flow

i have a saved prompt

where it's basically says to fact check the answer

[acoustic turret]

It's called shortcuts right

To set a command prompt

Yeah

[quaint ravine]

Complexity Prompt plugin iirc

[acoustic turret]

It is

[quaint ravine]

i just use the shortcut to quicikly bring up the prompt

list

[eager wharf]

I’m just getting started with this and my mind is already blown seeing how much it can do

[acoustic turret]

I can't really use a thread too much

Or it will just fail

[quaint ravine]

what thread

oh you mean like retention

[acoustic turret]

I mean too long

[quaint ravine]

within a thread

yea PPLX's token limit is only 32k iirc?

[acoustic turret]

I see

[quaint ravine]

so it's not gonna remember things reliably beyond like 15,000 words perhaps

[acoustic turret]

Yeah

I experienced it after a couple mins using it

[quaint ravine]

will be using RAG

[acoustic turret]

The answer getting weirder and more hallucinate

[quaint ravine]

which is not what you want if you need pinpoint accuracy of retention

[acoustic turret]

Hallucinated

[quaint ravine]

but if ur just after general facts

might still be okay

i can see why coders get frustrated

[acoustic turret]

Well that's a big no no for me

[quaint ravine]

need to undersatnd what the AI tool is for

[acoustic turret]

Because I'm actively using it to fact check and find me citation and sources

[quaint ravine]

could just open up another thread

especially if it's a different topic

[acoustic turret]

Yes that's why I have a shortcut made

I just adjusted what lacking each new thread

[quaint ravine]

i see

[acoustic turret]

Anyone tried the new andorid comet app?

[quaint ravine]

#1451836451682779192 message

that's what I wish could be done

even if it only allowed 2 AI at once

[sly marsh]

I just downloaded it

[quaint ravine]

so the workflow would be to allow you to customise the Follow up prompt

[quaint ravine]

I used the browser before it got publically released widely

on windows

[acoustic turret]

Oh yeah that's a good idea

[quaint ravine]

it's pretty neat

[acoustic turret]

But it's still lacking in feature

Compared to chrome or opera

[quaint ravine]

what feature

[acoustic turret]

Like for example the tab grouping

That would be a priority

[quaint ravine]

tab grouping?

[acoustic turret]

It's a must have if you ask me

[acoustic turret]

Yeah

[quaint ravine]

doesn't it have it?

I thought Comet can automate that

[acoustic turret]

Nono

[viral quest]

I haven't tried comet at all. Took a look and thought it was kind of intrusive. A friend tried it, hated it, and had a hard time getting rid of it completely.

[acoustic turret]

You misunderstood

[viral quest]

She isn't very tech inclined though, so ymmv.

[quaint ravine]

hm?

yea

there can be privacy concerns

I haven't used it as my main browser yet

but it's probably the future

[viral quest]

I have heard other complain it was tough to remove also. I am not a fan of the invasive "helpers"

[quaint ravine]

even the "summarise web page" on its own

is almost worth using

by itself

[viral quest]

You'll have to let me know what you think. You can be the tester. haha.

[quaint ravine]

hahah

[acoustic turret]

Yeah it was neat

[quaint ravine]

anyone can test

summarise youtube video etc

very convenient

[viral quest]

LOL not what I meant.

[quaint ravine]

that by itself is great

[acoustic turret]

I've been using comet as a default browser for a couple month now

It's still lacking I just adapt to it

Oh yeah this is what I meant by the tab grouping @quaint ravine

For example in chrome

[quaint ravine]

i understand tab grouping yep

[acoustic turret]

Comet still dont have it

Which I find a bit annoying that it don't have it

Since I'm used to having tabs grouped

[viral quest]

how is it for resource use? browsers in general can be such hogs

[acoustic turret]

Not in phone fortunately

I only group tab on my phone

I don't group tab in using pc

That's why

[acoustic turret]

Wait you mean the comet in pc resources?

[viral quest]

I'm just talking memory and cpu usage...not group tab

[viral quest]

yes

[acoustic turret]

Oh mb

Well if you compare it to chrome

Comet wins alot

[viral quest]

oooo a rare one!

[acoustic turret]

Its heaven and hell difference basically

[viral quest]

That is definitely good to know.

[acoustic turret]

If I pull out the same amount of tabs in chrome and comet

[viral quest]

I may have to give it a try. Perplexity sure nags me a lot to get it. 🤣

[acoustic turret]

Chrome uses 8-10% of my cpu

Comet 0.2%

Lol

It's a no brainer

[viral quest]

oh wow. yeah!

[acoustic turret]

I just saw it

Comet peaked at 1.2%

That's it

[viral quest]

okay that is great

[acoustic turret]

Not more

Basically you also get all the neat things like the Ai assistant build in

Extensions is available too

It's basically chrome but better with Ai

Minus tab grouping

[quaint ravine]

ah right

you like tab groups?

[acoustic turret]

Man asking comet browser to remove and unsubscribe to spam email was such a peak

[quaint ravine]

ur talking about in a smartphone

[acoustic turret]

Yes

I don't really care about pc comet tab grouping availability

[quaint ravine]

yea i dun tend to like using smartphones much

for browsing etc

[acoustic turret]

Because when you use phone everything is cramped

That's why tab grouping is a must

[viral quest]

Same. I like lots and lots of real estate.

[quaint ravine]

I even struggle with laptop

[quaint ravine]

good point

[viral quest]

When I'm researching I have so many things open and needing to be visible. Toggling makes me angry. LOL

[acoustic turret]

Haha

[quaint ravine]

sorry I stepped away

what browser is that?

[acoustic turret]

Comet

[quaint ravine]

oh right

Comet Android?

[acoustic turret]

We talking about comet

No the pc

[quaint ravine]

ah yep

[acoustic turret]

The general diff between chrome and comet performance and efficiency of it

[quaint ravine]

Comet web browser is solid

its ad blocker is great too

nearly built in

just really well done

[acoustic turret]

Exactly

The ad blocker

Is insanely good

[viral quest]

Does it ad block Youtube? Because they got serious about blocking ad blockers. It's a regular blockade.

[quaint ravine]

yes I think it blocks youtube?

altho

[acoustic turret]

I think it block it

[quaint ravine]

there was a period where it didn't do it that smoothly

i think it's fixed now tho

[acoustic turret]

But sometimes it slips

That's it

[quaint ravine]

yea

cos youtube changed its algorithm

[acoustic turret]

But most of the time

It's smooth sailing all the way

[viral quest]

I used to use uBlock for that and YouTube stopped it.

[quaint ravine]

yea

ublock lite is stlil good tho right?

Ublock Origin Lite

for just ad blocking

[viral quest]

That's what I had.

It didn't work anymore

[quaint ravine]

i think it doesn't do youtube that well tho

anymore

just stick with Chromium 38

[acoustic turret]

Best bet use comet now or never

Lol

[viral quest]

I'll figure out checking it out and keeping my fingers crossed that it isn't a pain to remove if I change my mind.

[acoustic turret]

I see

[quaint ravine]

just test it in a VM

or sandbox?

[viral quest]

yeah

[quaint ravine]

Comet seems to update often

[acoustic turret]

What you guys mean by hard to remove?

[quaint ravine]

there is a lot of development on it

[acoustic turret]

You mean temp files?

[quaint ravine]

temp files?

[acoustic turret]

Like I could just go to setting and press uninstall?

[quaint ravine]

oh

[viral quest]

no...have just heard people say that when they try to uninstall it, random artifacts hang around.

[quaint ravine]

well Windows

it's never clean

uninstalling

basically anything

that's why I tend to sandbox anything I can

[misty sandal]

Use windex lol /s

[quaint ravine]

my current Windows OS doesn't even have a browser installed on the "real" system

[viral quest]

I have a couple of uninstallers that do a good job with the registry entries and things

[quaint ravine]

well aside from Edge I guess

[viral quest]

but if something wants to be intentionally rude and not uninstall it's annoying

[quaint ravine]

yea i used to use those

but even those aren't perfect

and...require u to install lol

[acoustic turret]

Talking about edge

[quaint ravine]

I used to swear by CCleaner

[acoustic turret]

It's really nice tho

[viral quest]

edge is the worst. I have the update scheduler turned off, registry for it set not to update, updater.exe deleted. It raises hell on my system.

[quaint ravine]

Edge isn't bad tbh

[acoustic turret]

Lowkey good

[quaint ravine]

oh right lol

[acoustic turret]

HAHAHAHA

[quaint ravine]

wat

lol

CCleaner Lite

was so good

[acoustic turret]

It's all in your brain ahh

[quaint ravine]

haha yea

[acoustic turret]

Crazy how we got tricked with fancy ui

Thinking it's faster

[quaint ravine]

nah it actually useful

cos like

cleaned out temp folder

conveniently

[acoustic turret]

Yeah cache file actually cleared

[quaint ravine]

and stuff like recent documents

shortcuts there

was handy

[acoustic turret]

Other than that

[quaint ravine]

yea

[acoustic turret]

Just no

[quaint ravine]

Windows beyond XP and 7 are just cosmetic tbh

[acoustic turret]

true

[quaint ravine]

imo less efficient

but I refuse to install third party skins

[acoustic turret]

Fancy animations and stuff

Slowed it down

[quaint ravine]

yea

well tbf

you can disable those

[viral quest]

True

[acoustic turret]

I wish I didn't have to go to win 11

My laptop won't work properly in win 10

Idk why

[quaint ravine]

gosh

[acoustic turret]

I just have it trouble shooting it

[quaint ravine]

Win 11...

[acoustic turret]

And nothing work

[viral quest]

10 was a bigger resource hog than 11, in my experience

[acoustic turret]

So

[quaint ravine]

no way

[viral quest]

yeah

[quaint ravine]

tbf

[hushed lotus]

cincin

[acoustic turret]

That's weird

[quaint ravine]

I am on Windows 7 😛

well

my new PC is on 10

i keep getting spammed

to upgrade to 11

[acoustic turret]

Lol

[viral quest]

yeah, they won't leave you alone about it.

kind of like Perplexity nagging me about Comet!

[quaint ravine]

easy enough to ignore tbh

[quaint ravine]

I havne't noticed that for weeks

[acoustic turret]

Hahaha

[quaint ravine]

what I do get is the odd ...download the app

[viral quest]

Banner. Every.single.time.

[quaint ravine]

wat?

[viral quest]

yep

[quaint ravine]

web ?

or app

[viral quest]

yeah

[acoustic turret]

Ye

Web

[quaint ravine]

no way

that's weird

[viral quest]

they are persistent

[quaint ravine]

I haven't seen a Comet banner for weeks

have you tried actually clicking on it?

that should do the trick iirc

[viral quest]

no....I didn't want it. LOL.

[quaint ravine]

just click on it and then cancel

why not haha

[viral quest]

But now, you guys may have me convinced to try it.

[quaint ravine]

yea

pretty sure that does it

[viral quest]

The resource comparison @acoustic turret posted has me convinced.

[quaint ravine]

what resource comparison?

[viral quest]

oh you had stepped away.

[quaint ravine]

ah right yea

ohh

u mean like RAM use

[raven gust]

wasssup

[quaint ravine]

hi

Comet seems to run light in the envivironmetn I tested

altho

that PC I tested it has 64Gb RAM lol

[raven gust]

tbh i have no idea how to use this

[quaint ravine]

use what

[raven gust]

i just signed up with my school email

[quaint ravine]

oh u mean Perpleixty?

[raven gust]

yeah

[quaint ravine]

yea just play around

read some documents

i think Mares usually does some link thing

https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/helpcenter

probably not a bad place to reference

[raven gust]

thxs

[viral quest]

Need one more drop to hit 100

[quaint ravine]

good luck

you could probably stop cmopletely for rest of the campaign

and still be top 10 i think lol

[viral quest]

probably. I really want to get all 75 though.

or try

[quaint ravine]

Comet actually has its own discord sub channel

I actually think that's unlikely anyone will get all

if it was dropping like 10-20 an hour then maybe

problem is too many duplicates

[viral quest]

I have 56.

[quaint ravine]

yea but will get harder and harder

as you get less and less unique to collect

[viral quest]

of course. it's math

[quaint ravine]

the last 5-10 will probably need like a few hundreds drops

will be asymptomatotic I think?

[viral quest]

I will still try. Because I am a completionist. haha

[quaint ravine]

nice

maybe use Comet to do it

[viral quest]

LOL

[quaint ravine]

agentic browser after all lol

[viral quest]

Just...one....more

[acoustic turret]

Lmao get the comet to do it

That might just be possible

[viral quest]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-cat-dead-cat-depressed-cat-laying-gif-11402833644907079653

[acoustic turret]

It's a long stretch

Lol

[quaint ravine]

if it was possible, would have been done by now lol

[acoustic turret]

Pull out the assistant

Help me catch them holiday jolly item

Lop

Lol

[quaint ravine]

not being able to select model on the assistant is a bit of a downer iirc

[acoustic turret]

Ah yes indeed

[quaint ravine]

altho for stuff like summarising web pages, youtube etc

Sonar/Best is probably...Best lol

[viral quest]

didn't I read earlier that it uses its own flavor now - not even like a "best" model?

[quaint ravine]

oh really?

[viral quest]

That's what someone in here was saying.

[quaint ravine]

Max gets something else too

[viral quest]

They seemed to know....more than me anyway. haha

[quaint ravine]

or is it more limits

[acoustic turret]

Any reccomondation model for image Gen?

[viral quest]

I think they were saying that only Max gets NB Pro.

[quaint ravine]

Image Gen 1 is excellent for real-to-life imo

haven't used 1.5 enough tho

but most people swear by Nano Banana Pro now

[acoustic turret]

Somethin animated?

Or maybe making no human object

[viral quest]

I have no legit need for image gen. It would just be playing around.

[acoustic turret]

Me too

But I'm just asking just because

[viral quest]

sure

[quaint ravine]

image gen is purely for fun imo

[acoustic turret]

Yeah

Nothing really works using image Gen

Logo, sign whatever

[viral quest]

There were a couple of marketing people in here that use it.

[quaint ravine]

i played with something called iirc

Wan AI

actually quite amazing

like even months ago

could turn a real photo

into an animated one

[acoustic turret]

Oh yeah

[misty sandal]

Oh, I've heard of that.

[quaint ravine]

like real-to-life animation

[acoustic turret]

There's something like that

[viral quest]

eh. those are big in my business right now....and I find them creepy.

[acoustic turret]

But I hate it being used

Yesterday I was trying to find a live wallpaper to use

I just found some photo being Ai fried to video using an image

[quaint ravine]

gee

this stuff will be abused big time imo

[acoustic turret]

Yeahh

We need to have them Ai ethical usage or sumn

[quaint ravine]

well past that now lol

[acoustic turret]

Atp I don't really know

Even a whole goverment is using Ai to promote themselves

Cutting animators and editor

[quaint ravine]

wow

[viral quest]

I'm a genealogy researcher and clients love the idea of taking a photo of their great great grandparents and animating them. "Bring them to life." All I can think is "they're dead. Let them be dead. This is creepy."

[quaint ravine]

100!

for Jen

congrats

lol

[viral quest]

100 for me AND a new variant!

[acoustic turret]

Lol

[viral quest]

whew. Long haul.

[acoustic turret]

Yeah

Let them rest

Lol

[viral quest]

okay....I must resist the bauble and get away from this computer for a bit. I'll probably leave it lurking on my phone but I need a break.

[acoustic turret]

That's for me too

I'll just be back here later

Haha

[tender quiver]

I think in a way it's reliving the memory
like what you remember from an event, isn't how the event actually went down
what you remember is the story you've told and retold yourself as you remember that event
those two aren't the same
each time you remember it, it changes
and even more so when all you remember is from looking at the image

I think animating old photos like that to move and tell stories is really cool. it's just another way of remembering really

[quaint ravine]

wat

oh right

there are dedicated AIs just for that sorta thing

PPLX is trying to be swiss army knife