💬│general

[split dome]

how can GPT-5 at rank 5th ? lol is this true ?

[steel crescent]

how do i fix it

[dry kestrel]

It really depends on the benchmark, theres a reason to why he quoted that tweet

[sweet zealot]

Yes, we are all aware of this, unfortunately

https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1403076559207796927

https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1403268394475716679

[dry kestrel]

Do you have a pro subscription

[steel crescent]

yes

[dry kestrel]

#💬│general message

Follow the instructions here to access the channel

[remote crow]

.

[sweet zealot]

:DDDDDDDDDDDDD

What have i just watched...

[steel crescent]

so now what will the ydo?

also is there any possibiity to add something like canvas or code preview?

[dry kestrel]

Fine tuning a berd bot might actually be possible

I need to format the messages though

[fast meteor]

iam waiting for 20B-oss-Berd

[languid star]

https://tenor.com/view/running-bird-gif-5605718589297190938

[dry kestrel]

This is going to be a pain

unless I can automate it

[gloomy cipher]

Yoo

[languid star]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-grand-theft-auto-gta-lcs-gta-one-liners-hey-uncle-how-ya-doin-huh-gif-17450963

[dry kestrel]

780 items, and the message.jsons include some useless stuff

[fast meteor]

nothing not a quick python script cant fix

[distant aurora]

499

https://tenor.com/view/pog-fish-pogging-currently-gif-2252544987340524926

[gloomy cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-d-uncle-mode-uncle-mode-uncle-mode-on-gif-26237371

[dry kestrel]

true, I need ti find a way to like filter out discord links though

[distant aurora]

Uncle is patrolling the hood.

[fast meteor]

regex and ai

[dry kestrel]

hmm

[twin grail]

@dry kestrel I'm planning on running GPT-OSS-120B locally

Have u tried any model ?

the 20B one also

[dry kestrel]

I've gotten both the 120b and 20b variants working

[twin grail]

what do u think about it

[dry kestrel]

its mid

likes to overthink

[twin grail]

and how much resources do it take u

[dry kestrel]

around 120gb of RAM

and like 90% of my GPU

[twin grail]

holy

[dry kestrel]

I'm on mac though so its a bit different

[twin grail]

u got a vps or it's ur main computer ?

[dry kestrel]

main computer

[twin grail]

how much ram do u got

but

120gb is crazy

[dry kestrel]

This might end in a disaster

[dry kestrel]

128

[twin grail]

dang

i only got 32gb

better stick with 20B then

[dry kestrel]

It depends on your VRAm though

[twin grail]

on my gpu ?

[dry kestrel]

I have to load the entire model into RAM due to how apple silicon works

[dry kestrel]

Yeah

[twin grail]

Oh..

yikes

My rtx 3050

can't handle that

[dry kestrel]

If you use LMStudio it should tell you which models you can load

[young hollow]

@dry kestrel How Can I Know Proper Perplexity Token Limits?

[twin grail]

can u send me the link

[dry kestrel]

and it'll stop you if the model is too large instead of the computer crashing

[twin grail]

i see

[dry kestrel]

https://lmstudio.ai/

[young hollow]

Berd?

[dry kestrel]

You can tell the model to "repeat after me" then give it a like a long sample text.

There isn't any official documentation on the max output limits

[blazing comet]

DeepSeek

[dry kestrel]

s l o w

[young hollow]

Or i can just tell it to keep writing Until it Hits Maximum Token Limit

[twin grail]

cooked

[young hollow]

Stating Tokens/Characters/Words in The End

Why You Guys Want to Run Models Locally

When You Have Subscriptions

[twin grail]

@dry kestrel Oh yee

it was

My avast

messing it up

I got it running now

[blazing comet]

Comet update when

[uncut dune]

NAWW

OpenRouter API response error: {
error: {
message: 'Rate limit exceeded: free-models-per-day. Add 10 credits to unlock 1000 free model requests per day',
code: 429,
metadata: { headers: [Object], provider_name: null }

[young hollow]

@dry kestrel Would This Work?

[uncut dune]

openrouter has a limit of 40 messages/day

so much for the free

[young hollow]

Wow

Incredible

[dry kestrel]

No, max output limit is like the max tokens per message.

[twin grail]

depends

[dry kestrel]

rip

[twin grail]

I'd love to have a Local AI

running

[blazing comet]

Comet needs some more like idk

[twin grail]

when i need a fast answer

[blazing comet]

To become my default browser

[young hollow]

Ohhh

[twin grail]

let me

do the honor

[young hollow]

Then I Will Know The Limit Per Message Right

[blazing comet]

O

[twin grail]

convince u

[uncut dune]

brave better

still.

[twin grail]

To use comet

[young hollow]

Well I Trust You

[dry kestrel]

This is probably the best rate limits you are going to get for a free API

[blazing comet]

Brave is pretty good

[dry kestrel]

I'd just buy some credits for that 1000 requests a day

[uncut dune]

i said better

[twin grail]

it really depends on ur use cases

[uncut dune]

alright

fuck capitalism

[young hollow]

Ahhh So Subscriptions Aren't Always Enough

[twin grail]

ayo chill

[young hollow]

There is A Price for Everything in This World

[dry kestrel]

compute costs money :/

[young hollow]

That's The Law of The World

[twin grail]

uhh

[young hollow]

EXACTLY

[twin grail]

not really

for my use cases

i want smt to mess with

[young hollow]

We Should be Greatful We Can Use Many Models for Free

[young hollow]

Now it Completely Makes Sense

Well Havs Fun Man

[uncut dune]

not like the companies run in a loss offering free models

if anything it boosts their sales

[young hollow]

Of Course Because then You are The Product

The Ultimately Utilise The Free Data

Is Like Watching YouTube Ads

[uncut dune]

yez

[twin grail]

@dry kestrel i can run 20B pretty smooth

i wonder for other model

10GB of ram for a Hi

lmao

[uncut dune]

wow

[twin grail]

th44

[young hollow]

We Need More Efficiency

[twin grail]

for us

it's a trade

we bought it

[dry kestrel]

nice

[twin grail]

so it's kinda fair getting the service

[twin grail]

I know

this may sound stupid

imma try 120b

on this

[young hollow]

I mean for Free Users

[naive orbit]

Guys, someone sent me a bit ly link saying its free perplexity pro

And it worked lmao

[snow remnant]

I know I'm on the Perplexity server but... My one year subscription has just expiring and I'm wondering which AI has the best performance this time around. Should I consider resubscribing to Perplexity or should I go with ChatGPT?

I mostly use AI to search for answers to my questions

[naive orbit]

Perplexity better tbh + Search feature is too good

Always gives uptodate information

@snow remnant

[silent ocean]

If we're talking reliability then perplexity for sure

You can always relay on perplexity's anwser

[languid star]

Moral of the story

[grizzled spruce]

Hi

[hexed thunder]

Hello

[snow remnant]

Looks like I can use gpt5 with Perplexity. Does open ai offer the ability to use different models if you get their pro plan?

nope

Perplexity it is then

[twin grail]

Look at this

@dry kestrel

My cpu is crying

[dry kestrel]

LMAO

[snow remnant]

wtf

[languid star]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-16757454

[dry kestrel]

I think I cleared up all the data, trying to run it in the google colab now

this could just be a total failure or it might just work

[ancient apex]

gpt 5 can't render latex right too 😔😔👉👈

[snow remnant]

that's sad

[placid granite]

Windows users crying

[twin grail]

__~1

wdym

[placid granite]

Os creating a lot of unnecessary cpu load

[dry kestrel]

Vencord 👀

[twin grail]

I was running a local LLM model buddy...

[placid granite]

Oh Shit

On an i7?

[twin grail]

vencord moment

[twin grail]

ye why not ?

[placid granite]

Does it run smoothly?

[twin grail]

yes

It just me streaming + multitasking

so the cpu goes around 92%+

[languid star]

so r u testing or use it regularly and fine with spikes

[twin grail]

Ye i'm fine with it

[languid star]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-16757454

[woeful belfry]

hey guys, how many requests are there for Chatgpt 5? I'm thinking of buying a team subscription or Perplexity Pro

[severe forge]

K feel like the performance gap between Gemini flash 2.5 and 2.5 Pro is too much that I think Gemini Flash 3 wouldn't come close to Gemini 2.5 pro

I feel like depending on how gpt 5 mini turns out

It's all depends on how gpt 5 mini will crush flash 2.5

[vocal otter]

Hi guys, does anyone have invite for Peplexity comet? I really want to use it but paying 200 for it is a little too much right now

[dry kestrel]

As a Pro user, you have a quota of 300 queries across all models (including deep research) within a rolling window. When you use queries, they slowly regenerate over time. If you consume queries faster than they regenerate and exhaust your 300-query quota, you'll experience heavy rate limits. Labs has a limit of 50 queries a month. Video generation is 5 videos a month with Veo3. GPT image 1 is 150 a month specifically, other image generation models are unlimited.

[woeful belfry]

in all or in each

[dry kestrel]

all

[fast meteor]

it should work, lora finetuning is very efficient

[timber niche]

Nuts

[drowsy harness]

600 per day

[dry kestrel]

Not true - #💬│general message

[dry kestrel]

I'm having a bunch of issues just getting it working

Starting to hate this

[fast meteor]

import unsloth first?

[dry kestrel]

I... did that

[green crystal]

have you asked.....gpt-5?

[dry kestrel]

It's going in circles atm

[fast meteor]

ib the code is generated by gpt

[green crystal]

agi moment right there

[drowsy harness]

Weird, i see 600 here: https://www.perplexity.ai/p/api/v1/user/settings

[dry kestrel]

In reality it is 300 - (I've tried this myself)

[meager rover]

damn

dedicated to the cause

[drowsy harness]

Oh, alright. Must have been hard to reach that limit

[dry kestrel]

Was using the base models + testing some things out

[fast meteor]

dont read too much into this... pplx is now abandoning this rest api from my observation since this summer

[dry kestrel]

Interesting, I noticed that it doesn't show the video gen limit

[short narwhal]

How long did it take you

[fast meteor]

for example pplx_alpha_limit is completelyt meaningless

[meager rover]

Yeah how long did it take

[dry kestrel]

I think like 2 hours ish?

I honestly don't remember

I gotta look through my own messages

[fast meteor]

hidden in the cloud. once you reached the limit the server will add max sub upsell in eventstream

[dry kestrel]

this happens when you reach the limit #💬│general message

[fast meteor]

"upsell_information": {"name": "subscription_upgrade_video_generation", "upsell_type": "UPGRADE_TO_PRO", "app_location": "IN_THREAD_INPUT", "title": "You've reached your monthly limit", "description": "Create more videos with audio and enhanced quality", "cta": "PRO_UPGRADE", "icon_reference": "max", "button_color": "PRIMARY_COLOR", "button_text": "Upgrade to Max", "cta_information": {"upgrade_paywall_title": "Want to generate more videos?"}, "show_in_comet": true}

[dry kestrel]

Yeah, I'd like to see this added so that the user has a general idea

[short narwhal]

Goes hard

[dry kestrel]

Finally working

[dry kestrel]

file upload limit #💬│general message

@short narwhal Why are back to matsku and not GPT-5 Nano

[short narwhal]

Nano died

[timber niche]

Berd how much was your Mac

128 gb must've costed atleast 10 bands

[dry kestrel]

Costed 10 feathers

[timber niche]

Lol

[dry kestrel]

and a bag of millet

[timber niche]

10k usd

Got it

[severe forge]

Okay gpt 5 mini crushes flash 2.5

[languid isle]

generational debt just to add a few gbs of extra ram in your mac 😭

[dry kestrel]

Not that much

[timber niche]

Hm

[severe forge]

I think time for Google to ship flash 3 next month

[dry kestrel]

and it's the 14 inch so a bit cheaper

[fast meteor]

does sonar model also subject to this daily limit?

previously the default model (mostly gpt 3.5) w/o pro search/copilot is truly unlimited

[timber niche]

Nice

[dry kestrel]

It does, at least when I tried in May

[languid isle]

is it the m4 one or older ?

[dry kestrel]

m4

[fast meteor]

a lot has changed in recent months...

[dry kestrel]

I wish I did more screenrecordings :/

[dry kestrel]

True

[languid isle]

damn m4 is actually pretty darn impressive, but ngl ive been on m1 for a few years now and it still performs through everything like a beast

[dry kestrel]

Yeah the apple silicon leap was insane

[short narwhal]

Whe are you gonna buy one?

[languid isle]

actually much bigger of a deal for me than AI ngl, because getting such a performance in such a sleek and lightweight ... fanless?! machine is insaneee

[dry kestrel]

yep

[severe forge]

Hmm... M4 is in the performance of the m1 ultra

[dry kestrel]

I'm a bit annoyed that they still haven't fixed how the keyboard gets inprinted onto the screen

[short narwhal]

I can’t figure out how to edit my server name anymore

[languid isle]

THIS....!!!!!

[timber niche]

Too broke rn

[meager copper]

But I do so much more in Comet, maybe it doesn't apply they're?

[uncut dune]

...

[languid isle]

you know when i got the laptop and i used it for sometime ... i thought i broke something or did something to the screen and it got me so worried

[uncut dune]

arch linux btw

[dry kestrel]

Get an air!

[timber niche]

I want a top of the line one with atleast 32gb ram but it's so expensive

[timber niche]

60hz

[fast meteor]

i love flash, it is the best model for repetitive & non creative task

[dry kestrel]

(I keep mine at 60hz most of the times)

[fast meteor]

and dirt cheap

[languid isle]

ahem... 😒 you got comet (please share invite code if you got pleaseee) 😭

[uncut dune]

get a good windows laptop and install linux

[short narwhal]

I'm surviving just fine on it with my air

[timber niche]

I have 2 laptops and a legion go already

I wanna try mac

[meager copper]

They've already gone long ago I'm afraid, sorry..

[timber niche]

Peasant behaviour

[languid isle]

or just get a laptop without windows and install linux

[uncut dune]

oh we in the rich people territory?

[dry kestrel]

erm airs are fine for light work

[timber niche]

Smort

[uncut dune]

install linux eitherway

[meager copper]

Do people still use Windows?

[meager rover]

WHY

[timber niche]

Yes peasant work

[dry kestrel]

battery life mostly

[timber niche]

Wtf

Wtf

[uncut dune]

yes

[meager copper]

Hasn't Microsoft completely abandoned them?

[dry kestrel]

unless I actually need the 120hz

[timber niche]

This is crazy work

[uncut dune]

60Hz is actually good for a laptop

it saves a ton of battery

[languid isle]

no worries, there is such a scarcity of invite links and i applied for access such a long time ago like as soon as it got released and still havent recieved anything

[short narwhal]

Yeah

[meager copper]

Not quite. Never had an issue with my high refresh rate screen of my MacBook Pro

[uncut dune]

it took me a looong time to go full linux

[meager copper]

Comet needs to fix its crappy low refresh rate animations, it's silly

[uncut dune]

mostly because i wasnt dedicated to it but windows is actually good. dont take the crap from people

[timber niche]

80% of people use windows or something

[shut edge]

I mean yea but mostly cuz of app support

[languid isle]

windows is alright, if you are into gaming but that's really all the usecase there is for it. If you put that aside you can literally get a much better and lightweight setup with linux

[meager copper]

Windows 12 have been delayed for two years now, so idk.

[shut edge]

50-80% of that 80% don't even know what Linux is

[timber niche]

Facts

Boomers

[uncut dune]

windows uses ram, true. but the gc isnt bad or anything, ram unused is ram wasted, and when other applications need ram os uses ~1-1.5 gb of ram

[timber niche]

I use bazzite btw

Lol

[uncut dune]

Ive optimized my windows a lot, i dual boot

[timber niche]

(i don't)

[dry kestrel]

Pretty close https://www.perplexity.ai/search/research-the-percentage-of-use-iAO5APzQR9OUrlrvJRA.ZQ

[languid isle]

whats gc ?

[uncut dune]

garbage collection

[short narwhal]

Did you guys know I was in the room when Linux was presented for the first time

[uncut dune]

memory related stuff ignore it

[meager copper]

I mean I have them on a VM on my Mac but I don't really have an app that specifically requires windows, maybe some old legacy ones

[timber niche]

9% of people running unknown os

[timber niche]

My people

[uncut dune]

windows respects your time (i.e after removing bloat)

[short narwhal]

Stone tablets

[fast meteor]

f nvidia

[timber niche]

Why is the gang named after got models

[dry kestrel]

what now

[timber niche]

Can someone fill me in

[uncut dune]

i had to bang my head against the table several times when i started using a server linux, then went to arch, banged my head more

[dry kestrel]

and why are you GPT-3.5 now

[velvet cove]

.

[meager rover]

[short narwhal]

I realized nano is bit too fast for me

[shut edge]

Use gentoo

[timber niche]

Mat is 100 years old confirmed

[uncut dune]

e

w

[short narwhal]

Huhh

[languid isle]

that's not the only issue with windows, the issue is that its a corporate junkyard inside there. You dont have control over your own machine as much as a user should have, and if a user is required to go through like 100 youtube tutorials and bunch of tech articles just to make things work then its really not worth it

[timber niche]

Guess I'll be GPT 5- Thinking Pro

[shut edge]

It's rlly ez to set up trust

[dry kestrel]

Hmm

[uncut dune]

womp womp, dont you have to do 5x the work for linux? and for what windows gives it's good

[dry kestrel]

wen matsku bot

[uncut dune]

you strike me as someone who hasnt experimented a lot

[fast meteor]

only love ubuntu / debian / arch

[dry kestrel]

I'm convinced you are 90+

[uncut dune]

if you use kde plasma on linux, the ram consumption becomes almost similar to that of windows

[meager copper]

Not really, just use Mint or something light and user friendly

[meager rover]

Me too

[dry kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-my-computer-recycle-bin-computer-disappear-gif-4830834

matsku irl

[uncut dune]

you havent used it have you

[dry kestrel]

more evidence

[green crystal]

gpt-5-thinking longer-pro-max-ultra-mini

[languid isle]

That's totally alright for you to have an opinion about me, but my opinion still stands

[fast meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/okidoki-boomer-gura-senzawa-gif-19260526

[meager copper]

I have Mint, Ubuntu and retroarch as virtual machines on my Mac

[dry kestrel]

uhhh

[short narwhal]

Let’s have a moment of silence for her

[dry kestrel]

I'm going to run out of free compute

[fast meteor]

only 6 hours for 1000 epochs

[uncut dune]

the intention of my question didn't involve opinions of you, I simply stated that because kde uses almost as much resources, for what windows gives with easy tweaks (like tiny11 or atlasOS), it's a great deal

and mint is kde

[fast meteor]

free tier on t4 will disconnect if you were inactive

[languid isle]

if your first instinct if to get aggressive instead of having a healthy argument then you're really not worth the time for this conversation my friend

[shut edge]

As an arch/fedora/debian/ubuntu/mint/windows/popos/endeavour/rhel nonabooting user, I agree

[dry kestrel]

I need to find a way to do this on my Mac

[shut edge]

I should install gentoo-

Decabooting off a single drive, what can possibly go wrong

[uncut dune]

yk what

fuck os'

[fast meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/senzawa-pop-up-senzawa-gif-21620848

[uncut dune]

use bare metal

[dry kestrel]

Also almost at the 100k message mark

[uncut dune]

who needs an os

[dry kestrel]

Just use pen and paper

[uncut dune]

fr

[languid isle]

punching holes in my card rn

[meager rover]

[shut edge]

Just hand build transistors for everything possible to solve or sum shi

[dry kestrel]

Fr

[fast meteor]

tails os for paranoid

[uncut dune]

Fr

use bare metal!!!

[dry kestrel]

Just get a bunch of people

[uncut dune]

love staring at an empty black screen with at @

[languid isle]

reminds me of that guy who build a computer inside minecraft lol, bro literally built the whole architecture from ground up

[blazing comet]

@dry kestrel show up in my model selector plz

[dry kestrel]

Three body problem human computer

ez

[short narwhal]

Dw I’ll be there

[dry kestrel]

Never!

[shut edge]

Yea just 49 trillion ppl

It's not that hard

[fast meteor]

||i could risking it by running this script on shared cluster without permission||

[languid isle]

😂 i have seen this before somewhere i just dont remember but ... very faintly remember the context for this. Do you know where its from ?

[dry kestrel]

please dont

[dry kestrel]

Three body prblem

[fast meteor]

it is a100 & h100 cluster

[languid isle]

ohhh

[blazing comet]

[blazing comet]

☹️

[uncut dune]

wait

I still dont know where the model selector is

[languid isle]

its right there

[dry kestrel]

I think I could do it on my mac with mlx instead of unsloth?

[shut edge]

Wow

For mobile or pc?

[dry kestrel]

You need a paid account on ChatGPT

[uncut dune]

I only got perp today

desktop

[fast meteor]

here vvv

[uncut dune]

on perplexity

[dry kestrel]

dammit you were fast

[shut edge]

It's legit the chipset thingy

[fast meteor]

for the first time

[languid isle]

screenshot wars

[fast meteor]

finally

im faster than you

[uncut dune]

💯

beats GPT-5 Pro any day

[dry kestrel]

My servers are dying

[languid isle]

try the serverless servers

[dry kestrel]

Fr

[uncut dune]

pen n paper?

[fast meteor]

lul serverless server

[shut edge]

Makes sense ur in peak hours rn

[short narwhal]

Have you tried running in the cloud instead

[dry kestrel]

I'm poor

[fast meteor]

i can sponsor you some vast.ai credit, if you know what you are doing

[languid isle]

i could build an AWS wrapper over this and give you with a monthly fees

[uncut dune]

I know an ez fix to overloaded servers

sudo rm -rf

[shut edge]

Just shut them down

[meager rover]

What service do you use for this tho

[dry kestrel]

I have no idea what I'm doing

[shut edge]

No preserve root

[fast meteor]

||free from research institute||

[uncut dune]

i should run it sometime

[meager rover]

[shut edge]

I agree

[uncut dune]

will be fun

redoing everything

[languid isle]

everytime i see someone say this joke i feel so cringed, its so overused now that its lost

[uncut dune]

because what is life?

[shut edge]

Last time I did that, holy shit did 7 oses not get nuked

[uncut dune]

its not a joke

run it

[dry kestrel]

I'm going to see if I can buy some cheap compute

[languid isle]

omg please... i love my french language pack files

[vague pagoda]

[languid isle]

😔

[shut edge]

Yknow I once installed arch on my Samsung s2

It wasn't a good experience

[fast meteor]

can you ask chatgpt to save the checkpoint every x minutes and load the previous checkpoint to continue the training?

[uncut dune]

W

[languid isle]

but a good life lesson tho

[dry kestrel]

Maybe? I don't know if thats possible

[shut edge]

Yea about that uhhh I installed gentoo after that

💀

[languid isle]

you didnt learn anything did you

[uncut dune]

lmfao

[shut edge]

tried to use it for 5 mins

[languid isle]

😭

[shut edge]

And then switched back to ubuntu

[fast meteor]

installed or simulated

[uncut dune]

I wondered what % more the head banging would go up by

[shut edge]

But then my touchscreen wasn't working

[languid isle]

..okay finally

[uncut dune]

if i switch to gentoo

[languid isle]

....

[shut edge]

Installed

[languid isle]

oh god

[shut edge]

Then I tried arch again

[languid isle]

no wait

[fast meteor]

s2 has enough raw power for any of this?

[shut edge]

Display manager refused to work

[languid isle]

you keep making this whole timeline worse for me

[shut edge]

Modded

[languid isle]

i cant keep track of it

just get a windows laptop man

[uncut dune]

linux has the following system requirements :

• electricity
• device (optional)

[languid isle]

idk

[shut edge]

Tried to install mint, didn't even load shit

[dry kestrel]

I think I can rent a 4090 24gb for like 7 USD a day

[shut edge]

Electricity is optional

[silent ocean]

Am I being a shill if I say I prefer grok 4 compared to gpt-5? It just response more unfiltered and more engaging

[uncut dune]

both are optional

[fast meteor]

but at what speed 1k operations per second on samsung s2?

[shut edge]

We dun care it's yo opinion

[uncut dune]

linux is omnipresent

[shut edge]

U prefer it

[shut edge]

Gng android is still technically using a Linux kernel

[uncut dune]

idfk

[languid isle]

no, both has their own usecases tbh, if i were to speak from my experience
chatgpt : for learning about a topic, or getting explanations and summaries
claude: code generation
grok: if i want unfiltered and unbiased response
gemini: when i feel like im the worse it reminds me there's still something much worse than me out there

[fast meteor]

heavily modified in user space and kernel

[languid isle]

but okay... idk if ya'll agree on this or not but out of all the AI web pages perplexity probably has the best design and interface

no one's even close, everything feels so well designed

[uncut dune]

perplexity doesnt lagg when the context gets huge

[languid isle]

!!!! EXACTLY!!

[uncut dune]

the way chatgpt, grok, gemini and llama do

[languid isle]

and the animations are so buttery smooth

[uncut dune]

yea

[languid isle]

i can just watch it generate stuff whole day long its so mesmerizing

[shut edge]

And we don't even talk about copilot when it generates a 9k line code for no reason

[uncut dune]

I thought of it as a glorified search engine but dang this turned out to be good

[uncut dune]

lmao

[languid isle]

Perplexity is no doubt a great alternative for someone who wants quick and bite sized information in their day to day life

[uncut dune]

does perplexity give api tokens?

[shut edge]

Liek I tell it to make a simple python print statement and it whips out a fucking 190 line code like wtf

[shut edge]

Idts

[uncut dune]

you'll find yourself using ai for A-Z everything

heck you wont realize it

I ditched chatgpt I wasnt thinking straight

[dry kestrel]

You get $5 worth of API credits a month as a pro user

[languid isle]

because it takes away the pain of googling something, then not getting the response back that you expected... then writing "[question] reddit"

[young hollow]

@dry kestrel When You Became GPT-5 Pro

[uncut dune]

thanks

[dry kestrel]

10 minutes ago

[shut edge]

Wait fr.?

[young hollow]

Ahhh is Fresh Nice

[uncut dune]

5$ ..

[languid isle]

gemini is so trash at every single thing like... idk what to even do with it i have free 1 year subscription of their best models and everything along with it

[young hollow]

For Sonar Yes

[dry kestrel]

Yep

[young hollow]

Ask for Recepies

[shut edge]

Figures

[dry kestrel]

head to https://www.perplexity.ai/account/api/group and try it out

[shut edge]

Sonar ain't allat

[short narwhal]

Free cloud storage is always nice

[young hollow]

Well At Least is Something

Sonar is Lama

[dry kestrel]

Icloud > google storage

[short narwhal]

Can't really provide other LLMs through an API, would go against like every providers ToS

[languid isle]

there's like 2TB of storage for a year, there are other stuff as well but i didnt bother checking it all out

[short narwhal]

type stuff

[silent ocean]

Gemini got me

😂

[languid isle]

like.. i dont wanna hate it. I geniunely want to have to say good things at least a few good things about it but there's just nothing i can come up with

[uncut dune]

it can function

thats enough

[languid isle]

i tried veo3, idk what to do with it other than if i want to be a catfish

[uncut dune]

does google give free api tokens?

[languid isle]

there text to voice takes a whole lot of time to even generate a simple prompt

[uncut dune]

i dont mind an absolute trash ai i just need api tokens without a rate limit of 3 effing messages 😭

[short narwhal]

Yeah, but that comes at a cost of them training on your data (+ slow API/rate limited)

[languid isle]

yeah im currently using its API for code completion

its not like im not trying to give it a chance

[uncut dune]

who cares about data, it's stolen eitherway, rate limit is my problem

[uncut dune]

rate limit?

i need it for a chatbot on my server

[languid isle]

no no im on their pro plan idk how much limit it has i havent bothered checking

[uncut dune]

i got like 600 ppl so the rate limit is a big big issue

[uncut dune]

oh another rich man territory I've wandered upon

pardon me

[short narwhal]

I don't think any free API is gonna give you that

[uncut dune]

orewa kaizoku

[uncut dune]

yea i gotta spend money at this point

[languid isle]

nah nah, just that 1 year free on student id

[uncut dune]

it was a fun side project only

[young hollow]

I Got 1 Year Free by Airtel

[uncut dune]

on perplexity?

[languid isle]

yeah that as well, for the Indian users

[young hollow]

Obviously

[uncut dune]

duh

I suppose a lot of people here came from airtel's offer

a lot

[young hollow]

Airtel is 360M Customers

[languid isle]

yep

[young hollow]

Is Obvious

[uncut dune]

I wonder

[dry kestrel]

Openrouter!

[languid isle]

companies want more users, but they dont understand the quality of users they are getting this way is shit

[uncut dune]

was it a collaboration, did perp pay airtel, airtel pay perp

[short narwhal]

don't they have 40 messages a day?

[dry kestrel]

you just charge 10 credits

[young hollow]

This is Jio Tactic

[uncut dune]

wrong territory to say than in 🏴‍☠️

[dry kestrel]

and you get up to 1000 free requests a day

[short narwhal]

is that 10 buckaroonies

[uncut dune]

its 10$

[dry kestrel]

Yes

[short narwhal]

I mean not bad

[dry kestrel]

Thats really not too bad

[uncut dune]

kiss my ass openrouter

[dry kestrel]

and they support a ton of payment methods

[young hollow]

We Survive on 2-3$ A Day

[uncut dune]

eh?

that's bullshit

what are you? 9?

[young hollow]

You don't know india

Poor Villages

[uncut dune]

I do know india

[languid isle]

good things should never be free, if internet was not so cheap only people who actually have a good use for it would pay for it.

[uncut dune]

if you think of 2-3$ a day you're delusional beyond measure

[uncut dune]

crap ideology

[young hollow]

90₹ is our meal cost of 2

[languid isle]

i can give you a example to look back and do your case study on

[uncut dune]

cut the crap bro im not from russia or smth I know

thats b.s

[uncut dune]

it simply doesn't fit my view of the world, you may hold your opinion

[languid isle]

look up for state of the internet before and after Indian users were given free internet access by Jio

[young hollow]

Believe Whatever You Want Why Would I Care

[severe forge]

1 gb per month

[blazing comet]

What are yalls default browser

[languid isle]

Totally fine, im not offended or trying to offend. Just what i think

[languid isle]

Brave for now

[young hollow]

Same Happening With Perplexity

[uncut dune]

let's say you love pizza, and I too love pizzas, you're proposing that since pizza tastes so good, we shouldn't let anyone else have it, I'm saying since pizza tastes so good let's make everyone have it

[uncut dune]

not comet

[short narwhal]

Comet comet comet

[severe forge]

whatever supports extension on mobile

dreaded Microsoft edge beta

[young hollow]

Kiwi?

[dry kestrel]

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/average-wage-in-india-usd-ZIDARIHeRb.JAt6nuBp.uA

[uncut dune]

I'd love comet but brave has goated adblockers

[severe forge]

Long dead

Looking for alts

[dry kestrel]

You get adblockers on Comet too

[severe forge]

I don't like Firefox though

[uncut dune]

why would I care? 😭 bro are you >9

[young hollow]

Firefox

[uncut dune]

no im sorry age doesnt matter, ive seen smarter >9

[young hollow]

Good Grief

[severe forge]

They have to add some fundamental features found in chrome in the Android version

[uncut dune]

surviving on 2-3$ a day? possible? yes. does it fit the context of what you're referring to? HELL NO.

[severe forge]

It's missing some very basic like per website zoom

[young hollow]

Don't Know Any Better Alternatives

[young hollow]

Just Forget it

[languid isle]

or... lets let pizza be something that is adequately priced in a way that people who actually do like pizza and appreciate pizza as a food would be pay for it to eat it, if you make pizza free or so cheap that people who dont want to eat pizza, who dont appreciate or like pizza will eat a slice and waste the rest just to talk shit about pizza.

[uncut dune]

the people who live on 2-3$ a day are not perplexity users nor do they have the priviledge of entertainment, your entire logic falls apart

[severe forge]

Yeah 👍 only 2 engines exist blink, gecko

[young hollow]

Agreed

Business is Business

[meager rover]

what’s happening here

[young hollow]

Ahhh so There are No Other Options

[young hollow]

Bananas

[uncut dune]

forgive me good sir, that ideology crumbles my thought and will

[severe forge]

there should be careful use of the word affordable and cheap

[languid isle]

free internet in india was released in 2016 by jio

[uncut dune]

calls dont use internet

[severe forge]

if these words aren't used in the correct places like then cheap means they consider it's a low quality

[languid isle]

they do

[uncut dune]

call centers have a different kind of operation

[uncut dune]

ig they might, I don't know. sorry for pointing it out for no reason

[keen kite]

Opportunity for making money

[young hollow]

@languid isle You Can't Blame Entire Nation Because of Some People

[meager rover]

friendly banter

[languid isle]

do you think a call center operates by paying the international call charges for every call they make ? or would it be cheaper to make use of VOIP

[uncut dune]

jus scam in your own country ez 💸

[young hollow]

[languid isle]

I am not blaming, im doing my masters and some of my great friends are from India. Please dont take me wrong here. Altho i apologise

[uncut dune]

you can and you should

[young hollow]

Ahhh My Bad I Had A Pre Bias Wrong Assumption

[languid isle]

nah nah its all cool, i couldve framed my words better im just really lazy and tired right now

[young hollow]

Same Man

I Can Understand

[uncut dune]

because what is blaming other than words given weight by one's own mind that has societal impact respective to what role you have in this stupid hierarchy

[young hollow]

You Can Just Say "Don't Take it Offensively"

[languid isle]

just tldr me this

😭

[uncut dune]

you can send a and go to sleep

[uncut dune]

TL;DR

[lethal hornet]

whats ur guys opinion on jailbreak prompts

[languid isle]

😕

[young hollow]

Yup Another Life Needs to Touch Grass

[lethal hornet]

ok

[young hollow]

Gray Area

[lethal hornet]

lol

[languid isle]

or you can have a conversation but that's probably too far fetched

[tulip nebula]

Can someone tell me how to get comet?

[uncut dune]

I hate people who say "touch grass" as if they're not on a discord channel talking to random people online anyway

[young hollow]

I can't see any potential

[lethal hornet]

lmao

oldest scene in the book

[young hollow]

You don't understand the real message

[languid isle]

You'll need an invite from someone who already has it, or buy perplexity premium plans

[lethal hornet]

what if everyone uses my perplexity account

points to brain

[uncut dune]

It was meant to be a joke, I couldn't make a TL;DR shorter than what i'd written if I wanted to

[tulip nebula]

I've the pro subscription btw. will it work?

[languid isle]

i said that as a joke as well

[uncut dune]

it was intended towards me duh

[young hollow]

You Still Didn't Get The Hidden Message

[uncut dune]

im jus dumb

spell it out for me

[young hollow]

That Would be Offensive

[dry kestrel]

Pro subscribers get priority on the waitlist.

[languid isle]

why are you writing like that

[young hollow]

Bad Habit

[uncut dune]

I dont take offense

[young hollow]

I Risk Penalty in This Server

[uncut dune]

I can just disappear off the face of the internet

[tulip nebula]

But won't I need to join the waitlist? Or they already enroll the pro subscribers by default?

[young hollow]

Great Idea!

[languid isle]

no i meant, uppercase every first letter of the word

[meager rover]

1/10

[severe forge]

Sometimes even Pro users in a waitlist... Says how much there is demand for comet then

[young hollow]

Yeah That's Bad Habit

[lethal hornet]

🥀

[uncut dune]

You're the only one not doing it

[languid isle]

huh

[uncut dune]

and me

[languid isle]

..yeah

[uncut dune]

idfk

its 1 am

[young hollow]

Yup Sarcasm

[languid isle]

its okay

[young hollow]

[languid isle]

are you one phone by any chance ?

[young hollow]

Obviously

[dry kestrel]

You do need to join the waitlist

[languid isle]

i cant imagine someone typing that way on a keyboard

[young hollow]

[young hollow]

What About Android Waitlist

[dry kestrel]

Thats not a thing yet

[uncut dune]

Why tho 😭

[twin grail]

@dry kestrel why's ur name gpt 5 turbo berd

[young hollow]

He has Became 2 Ai Models

[young hollow]

Certainly

[languid isle]

they shouldve had 2 lines just like how disney does it, one for normal people for it and the other for VIP's

[dry kestrel]

Why not

[young hollow]

VIP Had More Data then Normal Users

Even Today VIP Have Netflix/Hotstar/Prime Benefits

[dry kestrel]

Pro users already get priority on the waitlist, and the more you use perplexity, the higher the algorithm puts you at the faster you get access.

[uncut dune]

zzz

[languid isle]

oh i didnt know that! hmm

[twin grail]

ayy letme join the fun

[uncut dune]

perplexity servers are managing this workload? the users must've skyrocketed

[languid isle]

but ive been a pro user for a long time now i shouldve gotten it :(

[meager rover]

look at this banger

[short narwhal]

My kind of drink

[winter lantern]

Sake ?

[meager rover]

Recency bias

[uncut dune]

It's gin

[severe forge]

how to get the pro tag... Out of curiosity i got the pro subscription and I don't know what to do with it

[young hollow]

Not My Kind of Drink

[winter lantern]

A kind of alcohol?

[uncut dune]

idk how I got it I bought pro and landed here through some links

[uncut dune]

yes

[meager rover]

It’s just cus it’s Japanese right matsku

[short narwhal]

Maybe

[meager rover]

Lol

[languid isle]

i bet it makes an UwU sound when you pour it

[meager rover]

um

[young hollow]

No

[uncut dune]

no tf

[languid isle]

...

[uncut dune]

you're confusing it with Sake a bit

[young hollow]

Need Manual Action

[languid isle]

my fault

[meager rover]

Why do people speak their mind so expressively

[uncut dune]

and sake is associated with a lot of times

[severe forge]

I didn't even realised I have been in this server for 2 years

[uncut dune]

why not

[languid isle]

im working on that part

[young hollow]

Actually Bottle Fault

[severe forge]

Until I saw the join date

[meager rover]

Like a few things should just not be said 😔

[meager rover]

It’s okay you got this

[young hollow]

Pre Psychological Programming

[languid isle]

if i had not said it here now, i wouldve said it somewhere else

[uncut dune]

womp womp

[meager rover]

Expressively was the wrong word used

I’d say hm

[languid isle]

it just had to be said

[meager rover]

Flamboyantly

[severe forge]

Oh god this is one of the very first servers i joined when I created my discord account

[young hollow]

What is That

[uncut dune]

oh my god

[meager rover]

What

[meager rover]

!

[languid isle]

wow

[uncut dune]

[young hollow]

[languid isle]

i just got a notification of app update on a website!?!?

[young hollow]

Has Huang Invested in Perplexity?

[uncut dune]

check out e-girl servers, be sure to give authorisations to those applications so they can hack your account properly

[twin grail]

Also ur credit card

[short narwhal]

Nvidia has

[young hollow]

That's Just Huang

[languid isle]

e-girls server
looks inside
it's all e-boys

[young hollow]

How About B Girls and B Boys

[uncut dune]

disappointed

[short narwhal]

basically

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/has-huang-invested-in-perplexi-FUDKtXxaTVOSt3g3LiwBYw

[languid isle]

we dont talk about those

[uncut dune]

lmao no

[young hollow]

Thank You

[languid isle]

you seem to know a lot about this particular matter

[meager rover]

They’re our protector thank you very much

the servers vanguard

[timber niche]

😎

[severe forge]

What's grok 4 heavy

[young hollow]

Now We Have Many Ai Models Here

[meager rover]

A model

[timber niche]

A very pricey model

[young hollow]

Heavier One

[short narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[severe forge]

I thought only the vannila and the mini existed

[timber niche]

@short narwhal hello peasant

[languid isle]

BMI 40 or greater

[short narwhal]

???

[meager rover]

No it’s like a bigger one or something

[timber niche]

3.5 Turbo

[young hollow]

I join

[meager rover]

Higher parameter count and compute used

I think

Or prolly just the latter

[severe forge]

So a bigger model...

[dry kestrel]

No, it runs 3 instances of Grok 4 with higher access to tool calls

It then picks the best response

[meager rover]

Yes

There

[dry kestrel]

It uses the same base model as Grok 4

[naive sage]

It's kind of interesting, actually... it spins up several instances to answer the question, then has a separate 'judge' process which reviews and merges them... kind of like automated n-shot

[severe forge]

They kinda close sourced grok from the third model

[short narwhal]

Can't I make my own grok 4 heavy then

[dry kestrel]

You can

[meager rover]

So yeah it isn’t more parameter count

[dry kestrel]

matter of fact people has already done that

[dry kestrel]

The parameters are the same

[timber niche]

Nice

[meager rover]

Lovely thank you

[meager rover]

I know I had an inkling

[uncut dune]

is there any way to use web integrations to bypass api keys and use desktop chatgpt

[timber niche]

Lmao

[young hollow]

If i ask Grok 4 same thing three times now thats Grok 4 Heavy

[meager rover]

Isn’t there a super heavy or something

[timber niche]

Nah

[young hollow]

Nope

[timber niche]

Just heavy

Super grok is different

[languid isle]

how can it be super heavy ???

[severe forge]

I think meta will close source it's models when they make a very powerful model on par with the flagship model that's there currently

[languid isle]

wtf does that even mean

[twin grail]

@dry kestrel what do u rec on LM studio

[uncut dune]

heavier

[timber niche]

Hi kar

Long time

[young hollow]

[twin grail]

Which model should i use beside gpt oss 20B

[twin grail]

Hi

[meager rover]

Gemma

[meager rover]

Is really good

[dry kestrel]

also this

[languid isle]

what is your use case ?

[young hollow]

You Should Use

A

Good Model

[severe forge]

Funny both are made by openai and Google rivals of each other

[dry kestrel]

qwen 3 is also really good

[meager rover]

do you just have gpt 2 for the memories?

[severe forge]

Gemma vs gpt oss

[twin grail]

Hmm coding and studying

[dry kestrel]

yeah lol

[young hollow]

Then Why Perplexity Doesn't Have it?

[short narwhal]

GPT-2 is a very good model

[severe forge]

Quen 3 32b 👍

[languid isle]

claude and chatgpt free versions should do the job i thnk

[young hollow]

Minimax M1?

[meager rover]

Claude’s free rate limit is so bad

[twin grail]

I want to mess with the local LM

[timber niche]

@short narwhal so is bard

[twin grail]

I got chatgpt and claude also

[languid isle]

ah are you studying machine learning or something ?

[twin grail]

I just want to mess around with the model

[twin grail]

Yes

[dry kestrel]

google bard?

[languid isle]

its fair then

[short narwhal]

true

[timber niche]

Yes 😎

[severe forge]

The Qwen 3 235B is the largest Quen model

[dry kestrel]

Ikr, forever in my heart

[young hollow]

Shu Qwen not Gwen

[severe forge]

And the coder varient is in the top 15

[short narwhal]

I think berd is a derivative form of bard

[young hollow]

[timber niche]

Were y'all even using ai when gpt2 was out

[twin grail]

@dry kestrel what do u suggest

[young hollow]

Which Year

[languid isle]

i dont mind actually, if that's what it takes to keep things working for them on their end. And if i want more i would rather pay because the quality of code output is worth it

[short narwhal]

nah

[timber niche]

Idk i wasn't around

[meager rover]

Wait this is good but how much VRAM you got

[naive sage]

For home use, besides those mentioned (especially oss and qwen3) - I think arcee's models tend to be good (they tend to be spins of other models that are a bit older, like qwen2.5, but are good for their weight).

[timber niche]

Ai only broke out w gpt3

[twin grail]

Rtx 3050

[severe forge]

I think gpt 2 was used by AI Dungeon at some point?

[twin grail]

32GB of ram

[meager rover]

Oh so not a lot to deal with hm

[severe forge]

Shall models would run

[twin grail]

ye kinda

[meager rover]

which vram model

[twin grail]

but it suits my need

[severe forge]

Under 8b

[young hollow]

Is Minimax m1 good

[timber niche]

When open ai was a non profit

[severe forge]

At most

[languid isle]

what was the first prompt ?

[timber niche]

It's so insane to think about now

[languid isle]

hmm

brb

[young hollow]

Why Openai is for Profit

[timber niche]

It was like that when established

[meager rover]

I’m guessing it’s 8GB?

[severe forge]

They should name it Closed AI

[timber niche]

It was created for making Accessible ai

[young hollow]

Exactly

[timber niche]

Priorities changed because of money

[young hollow]

There is Nothing Open About OpenAi

[timber niche]

Sammy B became greedy

[young hollow]

SAM!!!

[timber niche]

Do y'all remember when they kicked Sam out

[meager rover]

He has a regera

[timber niche]

Was a crazy week

[young hollow]

Yeah

Microsoft Kicked in

[twin grail]

imma let this download

[young hollow]

To hire all employees

[twin grail]

then go to sleep

[timber niche]

True Atrioc Viewers enjoyed that week

[twin grail]

gn guys

[languid isle]

classic move to lure all the backstabbers

[severe forge]

Basically saved sam

[meager rover]

Adios

[young hollow]

Exactly

[short narwhal]

Insane Big A reference

[timber niche]

Microsoft saved sam in exchange for his soul

[timber niche]

Glizzy Moment

[short narwhal]

Coffee cow

[severe forge]

With $10b investment it would be as part of Microsoft someday

[young hollow]

What if OpenAi Waa Closed

[timber niche]

It is about to be

[young hollow]

And Everything Happened in Microsoft

[severe forge]

and now this would be Google vs Microsoft battle

[timber niche]

Sam would have majority stake along w Microsoft

[young hollow]

So They Should Had Switched

[timber niche]

Without sam

Nothing would've moved

Ig

[young hollow]

With Sam

[severe forge]

I think Google flash 2.5 could make apps

[timber niche]

The others were vc types

[young hollow]

Holy

[timber niche]

Who tried kicking him

[young hollow]

Then Elon Musk Would Take Over OpenAi

[severe forge]

It's much better when I tested it after using flash 2.0

[timber niche]

Lmao

[young hollow]

If Sam Was Moved to Microsoft

[timber niche]

Would've been so stupid

Elon fucks everything up

[severe forge]

I remember Character AI now

Google got it's employee back

[distant aurora]

Lol.

[young hollow]

I had thought is so good

[timber niche]

@distant aurora how you feeling man

Get well soon .

[young hollow]

Then it Would be Elon OpenAi vs Sam Microsoft vs Google

[timber niche]

Microsoft had no ai product

[severe forge]

He has xAI