💬│general

[silk grotto]

100k

[atomic shell]

Yup that's a good one

[silk grotto]

with office discount , cc discount

[twin grail]

A big no for mac but the rest with apple are just fine

Having an iphone rn and yet i kinda like it

[atomic shell]

Ipad is good I agree

[silk grotto]

I have macbook + hp, so :))

[short narwhal]

Did someone mention apple!!

[atomic shell]

Noo

[twin grail]

Me

[gloomy finch]

Yup

[atomic shell]

No

[gloomy cipher]

not in a good way

[gloomy finch]

There comes mat with mac

[gloomy cipher]

matsu has secretly built a software that notifies her when apple is mentioned

100%

made by lab

[atomic shell]

So once we were hackathon
And my teammate has something in her mac

And when he tried opening
It was like update software else can't open

[silk grotto]

mac is seriously good if u just work on gdocs thats ur life

[atomic shell]

Like what was that

[short narwhal]

I have a pc too...

[gloomy finch]

🫠

[atomic shell]

Yup just check listening to apple music

[gloomy cipher]

hmm

i wonder if i can annoy her

apple apple apple apple 🍎

[short narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[silk grotto]

bruh

[atomic shell]

Someone use suno ai and let's make fun of apple

[twin grail]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16gtdNmsXj/?mibextid=wwXIfr

[pseudo marten]

hi 👋🏻

[gloomy cipher]

hi

[short narwhal]

👋

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-specter-suits-suits-tv-suits-usa-aura-gif-2734246581103925492

@languid star

[languid star]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-scared-gif-23079799

AuraSync is by prowlridge, potentially an upcoming Google model. The Stellar Vision is by Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview (06-05).
All one-shot
Prompt: "create a modern website. It should have good gradients, glass morphism, etc.

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1934022621454008320/vid/avc1/1564x720/e24eLCMG615vaiWR.mp4?tag=14

https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1934023079342026752/vid/avc1/1554x720/lLfcWN-QO2582pHr.mp4?tag=14

[distant aurora]

NA

[languid star]

https://tenor.com/view/ster-gif-18818506

[craggy geode]

looks like settlers of catan lol

that board game i don't think i'll play again

[gloomy cipher]

i have been talking to opus 4 for like hours now in blackbox and after generating 133 PDF pages in context i only paid around 30 cents(box gives you 15$ for free)

[gloomy cipher]

opus4 + thinking

[distant aurora]

I would like an explanation for this.

I didn't even use it 10 times so far.

[gloomy cipher]

open the api link

https://www.perplexity.ai/p/api/v1/user/settings

[distant aurora]

Wait. nvm.

I think my pro expired.

Lmao.

Lemme check

[gloomy cipher]

did u have it for free or did u pay

[distant aurora]

Coupon

It's okay. I have 2 more months.

[gloomy cipher]

then why did u loose lab?

[distant aurora]

I subscribe for one month and unsubscribe immediately.

To save for later.

[gloomy cipher]

😂

[gloomy cipher]

There is a new ai btw

[distant aurora]

Charas power ai?

https://tenor.com/view/dr-reasons-john-alfonza-baker-spoken-reasons-laughing-the-clown-gif-18065972698846558033

[languid star]

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-slow-interview-uhm-question-gif-12020463873262616879

[distant aurora]

There's a horse with another head on its ass if you saw the video carefully.

[native star]

What’s it called?

[gloomy cipher]

Ai search makes weekly videos of all ai news watch last video

[buoyant schooner]

WHY is chatgpt with search far superior than perplexity

perplexity is bad at handling dates from the sources and it's making up tons of fake info

can't they improve their product instead of changing the UI every single day?

[lone hound]

#1372904142045052969 message

[distant aurora]

Share thread

@short narwhal https://www.instagramez.com/reel/DJqTMwgOhhN

[gloomy cipher]

Ai in general always has issues with providing accurate guides 😔 do you have any idea how could this be improved? I have to keep telling them to use the latest version of the apps but they either use outdated version or they make up a lot of information ex. If i ask them where can i acces my api in certain web page/software instead of researching they make it up saying go to settings and administration settings even tho these sections don't even exist 😑

[green crystal]

it searches during reasoning

[buoyant schooner]

yes and this is far better

why they aven't implemented it yet in perplexity

[green crystal]

its cheaper i guess lol

[twin grail]

Which model u used for researching ? @buoyant schooner

[green crystal]

pplx uses their own sonar model to search
then an llm of your choosing summarizes the results

reduces tokens used

[buoyant schooner]

yes

and this leads to bad results

Pplx should let reasoning models search during reasoning

[buoyant schooner]

I've found o-series to provide more accurate results and a better handling of the context

[twin grail]

Is pplx search that bad tho

Just out of curiosity

As i don’t really used deep research on pplx

Only lab and the rest

Research i let the work for gemini

[buoyant schooner]

the thing is it isnt reliable at all and will state out of date or incorrect information very often. I don't see the point of using it when chatgpt search is far better

[twin grail]

I might try it later

@buoyant schooner did u buy chatgpt plus or pro

[buoyant schooner]

i have plus

[green crystal]

only thing i've found a bit annoying from chatgpt is how the models seem to read the source and talk about it
which sometimes has it give its own opinion on the source instead of just using it lol

[twin grail]

Is there anyway for it to be more affordable for students

20$ a month is still way to alot

[green crystal]

pplx is heavily letting the source influence the response

[green crystal]

seems like they're running a limited time student offer in the US

and Canada

[twin grail]

Ye i got it

But 2 months only

I’m wondering if they got any kind of student program or smt

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-raisedeyebrow-harvey-specter-suits-gif-4671728

[pseudo ferry]

Tried attaching your project .html to google canvas?

[twin grail]

not yet

studying rn

[pseudo ferry]

Oh Okay!!! Try try, I'm working on canvas for the last few weeks. Results are impressive! Completely depends on the prompt and flow you go with

[languid star]

https://github.com/kiliczsh/system-prompts-and-models-of-ai-tools

[fallen agate]

How to get PRO role?

[languid star]

Prompts of top ai companies

[languid star]

@halcyon coral

[pseudo ferry]

Do you have pro subscription with you?

[twin grail]

Is it possible

to merge perplexity to Vscode

and make it like cusor

[languid star]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-mind-blown-mind-blowing-eyeglasses-gif-15569009

no

[fallen agate]

yes

[languid star]

jk

[twin grail]

U can dm a mod

show them ur pro account

[pseudo ferry]

If you can share the snapshot of it like the interface then @vague pagoda is available to help!

[serene sand]

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/lolol-lmao-gif-22173456

[twin grail]

Hmm so there is

Ty

[serene sand]

https://discord.com/channels/1047197230748151888/1111786888626438245 hop in @fallen agate

[fallen agate]

@vague pagoda helped me

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-lenny-leonard-listening-interested-attentive-gif-4574713

[twin grail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260354287825977476/1276501371717156874/togif.gif

fin fin fin

[vague pagoda]

Do you want to use Perplexity models (like Sonar) for better searching inside of Cursor, or something else? We do offer a MCP Server

[twin grail]

It’s more like combining them just like copilot or cusor having agent to help devs on their code

[languid star]

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1933956411588804608/pu/vid/avc1/720x666/jPUC0FPqxiDYIddy.mp4?tag=12

[vague pagoda]

We don't offer anything like that at the moment, but shouldn't be too hard to achieve with Cursor and your own API endpoint (we're OpenAI compatible)

[twin grail]

I see

Got it

Ty

[pseudo ferry]

Hi kesku, I'm best closer in New York city. Can I get the role "The Closer" and I'll give free Pearson Specter Litt branded merchandises + 1 year free Complimentary Harvey Specter Legal Consultation.

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-specter-suits-look-face-cool-gif-1011077770396773031

[vague pagoda]

Appreciate the offer but we're gonna need to run that by legal (aka: nope )

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-specter-suits-angry-smile-sad-gif-27350564

[twin grail]

Imma apply to an employee at Perplexity

[lone hound]

Prompts don't always help, even if you use a model in reasoning mode, and they don't always help. A lot depends on the internal system, both the system and the model.

[gloomy cipher]

What about models. Which models do u think are generally better. Imo the more source should technically be better eh it's not always the case some times the is too dumb some times the ai is smart but doesn't have a lot of search acces

[green crystal]

reasoning models with websearch

thats your best bet

[lone hound]

That's why I'm telling you, it depends a lot on the internal system Perplexity uses. The model uses the result sent by the system, and this is where the AI takes action.

[gloomy cipher]

Yea. But this answer is really not defined i already know that the question is which one exactly 😑

[green crystal]

o4 mini high and o3 are pretty good

on chatgpt

they're aware of the search results and can search more info if needed

[gloomy cipher]

What about open ai api platform are the results the same as chat gpt?

[green crystal]

or if it deems it outdated or vague

[green crystal]

the api? erh think so
same method of search is being done there

its basically tool usage during reasoning

[lone hound]

No matter how many reasoning models you use, it doesn't always help. Don't waste time figuring out which model is best overall.

[green crystal]

you have to enable the web tool manually so it has access to it

[gloomy cipher]

@green crystal is this where iam supposed to give the acces for web searching? because i cant see it

[timber niche]

What's this? Open router

[gloomy cipher]

open ai api platform

[lone hound]

While you guys worry about which model is best, I'll use Gemini.

[green crystal]

gemini is very meh with search

except deep research

[gloomy cipher]

😑 i wana use what i have i dont want extra payment

[dry kestrel]

like their own research agent?

[distant aurora]

No. Earlier if you made custom agents for research, the multi step and initial questions didn't work in the mobile app.

Needed to use web version for that.

Now the mobile app supports it too.

[distant aurora]

Flash > pro

[lone hound]

I use what I have and take advantage of using what is free, without spending money.

[slate sluice]

hi guys

[gloomy cipher]

thats what iam trying to do....

i dont have gemini and i cant rely on low limits

[lone hound]

If you have a premium account with Openai or Perplexity, use it. Don't worry about this or that. Use your deep reasoning. AI will never replace human reasoning and intelligence.

That's why I learned not to worry.

[green crystal]

they will
eventually some day lol

i mean there are people who get beat by gpt 4o logic

[lone hound]

Are you referring to the movie Terminator?

[distant aurora]

They will.

Cuz hr is shit.

I see incompetent people everywhere.

[green crystal]

nah

[lone hound]

Remember that we are in real life, not science fiction.

[green crystal]

yeah

my work is already actively looking at how to use o3 to take over some administrative tasks

and reasonably lol

they're aware of its downsides

[lone hound]

That's why I learned independently; schools and universities don't teach you reality, how to use reasoning, and much less intelligence.

[green crystal]

what im saying is that while its not AGI its pretty good enough to handle quite a few things

ai will stay like that until the next breakthrough

[lone hound]

A useful tool in our hands

[distant aurora]

The problem with ai is it's pretty easy to manipulate.

Okay, you.com research is still shit.

[green crystal]

somewhere it has to otherwise you get grok feeling lazy to read pdfs lol

[distant aurora]

I think perplexity is second best.

Chatgpt is best.

For web search/research.

Grok tends to be lazy.

Idk what Gemini is smoking.

[distant aurora]

Same with O3. But perplexity's rate limits compensate well for it.

I don't feel good about chatgpt free tier cuz it doesn't remember anything past 4-5 messages.

[gloomy cipher]

for some reason the reasoning models cant even have acces to web page . why is that? only the gpt 4.1 models can have acces to web in the open ai platform. is it possible to merge and use 4.1 for webpage and o3 for reasoning??

[dry kestrel]

interesting

never really used that whole search thing

[green crystal]

probably if you make a custom agent yeah

[dry kestrel]

o3 is extremely artifically limited on both chatgpt and the API

the whole yap score and juice thing makes the model inherently dumber

[green crystal]

the juice is probably adaptible
because i gave it dot counting image and it took over 11m of reasoning

[dry kestrel]

even on the Pro plan it would straight up refuse to output long texts when something like perplexity DR was able to

[gloomy cipher]

good for you, i crashed my open ai webpage like 3 times because of that lmao

[twin grail]

hey guys

[dry kestrel]

lmfao

[twin grail]

Bolt giving a coupon 30$ off

for every plan

[dry kestrel]

I mean I was able to like ask it a bunch of small questions to form a long answer but

[gloomy cipher]

who is that

[twin grail]

Another AI

[dry kestrel]

kinda like manus

[gloomy cipher]

OH

[twin grail]

It can create app and website

[gloomy cipher]

I LOVE MANUS

[twin grail]

https://bolt.new/?rid=nfqrul

It would help a lot if u guys help me by using the refer link

we both get 250k token

[twin grail]

upgrade to pro we both get 5m token

[gloomy cipher]

are you talking about this one

[twin grail]

yes

@gloomy cipher

[gloomy cipher]

where are the models why are they not showing 😑

[twin grail]

i sent u the promo code

can u help me by signing up with the refer link

then use the promo code

we both get benefits

[gloomy cipher]

its giving errors

[twin grail]

only 30$

[gloomy cipher]

ok worked

[twin grail]

U can use that promo code

to upgrade for urself

a pro plan

ur account is still free

u can switch to another workspace

[gloomy cipher]

iam not planning to pay

but i think u get 200k tokens from me

[twin grail]

That code can be used again

[gloomy cipher]

what are you talking about

[gloomy cipher]

also why is it not showing any info on models

so cunning 😑

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-raisedeyebrow-harvey-specter-suits-gif-4671728

[twin grail]

i think it use it's own model

[gloomy cipher]

no

its sonnet

[dry kestrel]

thats kinda

meh

[green crystal]

uhh asking a model about itself

not the best idea lol

[dry kestrel]

usually in the system prompt but theres other ways to verify

[gloomy cipher]

the web doesnt provide any info....

none

even in the pricing menu all they listed is token but there is no mention of what model is running

[dry kestrel]

essentially they could just switch you to a cheaper model

[gloomy cipher]

using sonnet 4 for coding in the first place should be a crime 😑

let alone 3.7

[normal river]

Compren el plan de Movistar plus

Que le dan perplexity gratis

[bleak oxide]

Whats up party people done anything new with perplexity?

[distant aurora]

@twin grail did you get your money back?

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/oi-oi-butcher-billy-butcher-the-boys-boys-gif-3279654810220071913

[twin grail]

Nope

No response

Still waiting

[normal river]

Nice role color, I love it <3

[twin grail]

Ty

[distant aurora]

What was the update?

[normal river]

Hello! I'm zolo and you

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-specter-suits-look-face-cool-gif-1011077770396773031

[twin grail]

You can call me Kari, Pufferfish or Fish

[distant aurora]

They didn't even give a deadline.

[twin grail]

Yep

Paypal still no response

Ahhh

[distant aurora]

Can I pet this fish?

[twin grail]

Sadly no

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-carter-pewterschmidt-moisten-mouth-moisten-gif-16379832182597529164

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/scarle-yonaguni-scarle-pat-patpat-iluna-gif-2773761459896004103

[normal river]

I'll call you, cool color

[dry kestrel]

diffusion seems promising for basic applications

[distant aurora]

They call it server booster.

[distant aurora]

I'm willing to risk a bite.

[twin grail]

U can boost server

[distant aurora]

Nietzsche cooked.

[gloomy cipher]

billy

do you have a prompt to evaluate source pulling?

or any test idea

[distant aurora]

Wdym by source pulling?

[gloomy cipher]

eg, certain models or certain futures can pull more sources therfore are more likely to have more accurate information its often visible in PPLX but iam not in PPLX so i need to evaluate it based on the response

[distant aurora]

You mean to make it dig deeper?

Or to test how deep it actually digs?

[gloomy cipher]

yea

[distant aurora]

Okay. Wait.

Is this for deepsearch?

[gloomy cipher]

well kinda. iam comparing o3 with google search engine api to others

[distant aurora]

Compare employee satisfaction of all the airline companies in India.
Research plan:
(1) Identify all major airline companies currently operating in India.
(2) For each airline company, search for publicly available information regarding employee satisfaction, applicant selection rates, and employee retention/attrition rates.
(3) Look for employee reviews, surveys, and reports related to each airline, paying attention to platforms like Glassdoor, Indeed, and other similar career websites for satisfaction data.
(4) Search for news articles, industry reports, and social media discussions that discuss employee satisfaction, hiring processes, employee turnover, and negative news related to employee treatment within the Indian aviation sector.
(5) Investigate if any specific reports or data are available on the selection ratios of applicants and the average tenure of employees for these airlines.
(6) Summarize the findings for each airline across all four aspects: employee satisfaction, applicant selection rate, employee retention/attrition rate, and negative news regarding employee treatment.
(7) Compare and contrast the airlines based on these four aspects, highlighting any significant differences or common trends.

[bleak oxide]

Ah man have yet to get the newest update

[gloomy cipher]

do i need a system prompt or nah

[distant aurora]

Why would you need a system prompt? That's for improvement. This is for testing.

[gloomy cipher]

personally i usually give them the same system prompt just saying

ok its cooking

[distant aurora]

I didn't use any system prompt for this. You can check my hybrid tree of thoughts prompt if you want.

That was made for deepsearch.

[gloomy cipher]

open it in browser if its blury

[distant aurora]

https://pasteboard.co/

[gloomy cipher]

https://pasteboard.co/FLgWQsna51JO.png

did it help?

[distant aurora]

Yes

[gloomy cipher]

o wait i did a mistake

i put 4,1 in there aswell

[distant aurora]

It's nowhere near google deep research.

Also

Akasa has one of the worst reputations.

It put it among best.

Lemme send the Google report.

[gloomy cipher]

deepsearch gemini?

[distant aurora]

Yes

[gloomy cipher]

10+ pages worth of sources 😭

[distant aurora]

I saw this.

Crazy amount of dedication.

[gloomy cipher]

88+ sources 👀

[distant aurora]

Where is this from btw?

[gloomy cipher]

scribechat but it crashed lol

apperantly i need to host an env to allow the ai handle more task

[distant aurora]

This is scribe chat too?

[gloomy cipher]

yes but the previous one had 1 source (google) this one has more

[distant aurora]

Perplexity got 80 sources.

https://tinyurl.com/Indianairliness

[gloomy cipher]

how mine pulled 49

[gloomy cipher]

is this research?

[distant aurora]

Perplexity clearly skipped the training and safety issues with akasa.

Yes.

[gloomy cipher]

i gemini it was 49

💀

[gloomy cipher]

iam cooked

[gloomy cipher]

this was one search btw

now i understand why there are limits

i ran a deepsearch without any limit

[distant aurora]

😭

[gloomy cipher]

bro tried to pull 200K context in one search 😭

[distant aurora]

App?

[gloomy cipher]

pplx

[distant aurora]

Oh.

Use some reasoning model.

They have better multi step search I think.

[gloomy cipher]

cant

[distant aurora]

What is this, scribe?

[gloomy cipher]

they dont have acces to webpage

[gloomy cipher]

thats mu open ai api platform

telling me how much i used today

if i pass 250k i have to pay

[distant aurora]

How do you give web access to model?

Does it charge me extra for that?

[gloomy cipher]

thats the issue open ai doesnt let you do it for the reasoning models

so you have to go to a third party
and use your resoning model from open ai in the third party

then provide api of web searches such as google or azure to the third party

the third parties job is to make them work together

however i gave all the sources i could for free so my o3 ended up crashing because the scibe chat couldnt handle it

to fix that issue i need to host the enivorement on my own pc wich may requires a lot of computing that my pc is unlikely to be able to handle

i will try to host my env and see if my pc can handle it

[dry kestrel]

they can call the web tool no?

its just really expensive

[gloomy cipher]

not for reasoning model no

the option doesnt exist

[dry kestrel]

oh wtf

[gloomy cipher]

it only exist for 4.1

[dry kestrel]

ig using something like googles api or exa search

would the better

[distant aurora]

Guys

Does Instragram show people who block you as disabled accounts now?

[languid star]

now ?

was it available before ?

[distant aurora]

Yeah. Nvm, it doesn't.

I blocked my alt to check it.

[bleak oxide]

Lmao

Wtf

[dry kestrel]

@distant aurora after two weeks of heavy use

and during this time i still used chatgpt perplexity gemini grok and you.com

[tame current]

Hi

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/think-bro-gif-22403438

[pseudo ferry]

Which platform?

[dry kestrel]

T3

[distant aurora]

Damn. Mine hasn't even crossed 500 yet.

I'll expire on like 27th.

@wise nova https://www.instagramez.com/reel/DI4eXgpzX6E

[steel plover]

Is it normal that I have to start a lab to generate the images ? can anyone tell me where I am wrong ?

[wise nova]

Mr Putin proposed join to NATO in 1999-2000, but the US refused him

[distant aurora]

Use web version. It doesn't work in app.

[dry kestrel]

Lol I tried to use it as much as possible

Instead of switching to other platforms

[valid charm]

o3-pro suuuuuucks (in my testing). Terrible at following instructions

[distant aurora]

You are not alone.

[neat relic]

That will happen when it's overthinking

[distant aurora]

#💬│general message

[valid charm]

Damn I think o1-pro did a better job lol. I know why it is cheaper

[dry kestrel]

Ahat was your prompt?

[dry kestrel]

Ah yeah i can see why it didnt do well

[distant aurora]

Now tell me why cuz I don't get it.

[valid charm]

Gemini did a perfect job with the same prompt

[distant aurora]

Google's years of translation.

[valid charm]

And for free

I gave it a 40 page translation pair example

From a top-teir publishing house

[bleak hull]

the perp search is bad for normal search

only about 10src

even with unrelated topic

[valid charm]

Try Research

[bleak hull]

reseach and lab do stupid jobs

they make a freaking document for it

even the output can be short and simple they want to make them long and complicated

lab even try to draw non-sense chart out of everything

[lone hound]

Send me an example photo of what you say.

[valid charm]

dayum

[bleak hull]

i just asked for comparision, not a freaking definition of everything and timeline

[valid charm]

Yeah over complicated

[green crystal]

because its meant for research
pplx research specifically will search all over the place for any info related to your prompt even if its vaguely related

and then cram it into 1 response

[bleak hull]

everyone know

but normal search is too little source

[green crystal]

yeah there isnt really a middle ground

[lone hound]

And what do you want to do with that?

[bleak hull]

?

[lone hound]

What is your work or desire with that image?

[violet vigil]

Yo soy la imagem

[boreal marlin]

Can anyone tell me where the focus button is. So I can select between web, academia and social. This is the android version and it's up to date apparently

[gloomy cipher]

you need to press ask anything first

thats where you can find it

[gloomy cipher]

you see a globe icon, click on it and its there

[boreal marlin]

That's what I get when I click ask anything.

[gloomy cipher]

the globe icon habibi

[boreal marlin]

Thanks

[gloomy cipher]

np

[valid charm]

What up guys. I’m chilling

[timber niche]

Hola

[silent ocean]

Bought perplexity pro we'll see how it compares to chat-gpt plus and Gemini, maybe I'll permanently switch?

[fresh horizon]

why gpt o3 so bad now

😰

[silent ocean]

Why would you use the specific model instead of the "best" option

Sorry I'm new I might not get it

[fresh horizon]

i dont use it

[gloomy cipher]

bro is 6 years behind

[fresh horizon]

ill remember how works o3 on api and on chatgpt

comapare ts to perplexity it work around on o4-mini

level

[gloomy cipher]

best option is the worst never use it

[fresh horizon]

or openai just make bad new model idk

[fresh horizon]

sry

"inference optimizing"

[silent ocean]

Perplexity pro thingies seem like pure marketing I don't see the appeal of getting told that it used perplexity pro for each query

[silent ocean]

Why?

[gloomy cipher]

because its just bad

[fresh horizon]

i getit 4 free

why not

[gloomy cipher]

learn about what the models are good for and use them

[gloomy cipher]

it has the best model rn for reasoning and writing buddy 😑

[silent ocean]

Shouldnt it do it automatically

[fresh horizon]

the best now o3-pro btw

[gloomy cipher]

well its not good at it

[gloomy cipher]

yea its a beast

[silent ocean]

I assume it always defaults to perplexity models

Or the cheapest ones

[gloomy cipher]

thats the issue

[silent ocean]

Can't use it in perplexity

[distant aurora]

O3 pro is just O3 with extra effort.

[fresh horizon]

because of price

[distant aurora]

In theory atleast.

[silent ocean]

Longer thinking

[fresh horizon]

heh, no

[gloomy cipher]

forno thats not all its also 10x more expensive 😭

[silent ocean]

So the best model in perplexity is o3 right now

At least it appears to be

[gloomy cipher]

depends

[fresh horizon]

o1-pro price 😭 😭

[gloomy cipher]

for coding and math o3 isnt top

[distant aurora]

O3 isn't top for math?

[fresh horizon]

bruh

[distant aurora]

What is then?

[gloomy cipher]

def not i dont think it can defeat deepseek and gemini

[fresh horizon]

old o3 been the best for math

[gloomy cipher]

especially gemini

[fresh horizon]

its help me get ball on university

[fresh horizon]

hahaha

ball

fuck

[short narwhal]

Try the models to see what you like specifically, they all behave in a different way

[silent ocean]

Before switching to perplexity I used Gemini full time, it seems to struggle with game logic and calculations

[gloomy cipher]

which gemini

[valid charm]

Dayum ve careful because they might remember that when Skynet comes 🤣

[silent ocean]

2.5 pro

Google ai pro plan

[fresh horizon]

i use chat gpt only

[gloomy cipher]

0605?

[fresh horizon]

something gemini or claude

[silent ocean]

The newest one I could get my hands on

You don't get to pick and choose in the Gemini app/website

Either it's 2.5 pro or 2.5 flash

[fresh horizon]

deepseek piece of shit for beggars

[silent ocean]

R2 might be a banger tho

[fresh horizon]

its banger because of price

and open source maybe

bur gemma is king

[distant aurora]

Lol.

Glaze.

[fresh horizon]

4 local inference

[fresh horizon]

glaze?

🤔

[distant aurora]

You get to choose in website.

[fresh horizon]

in app tho

[silent ocean]

Glazing is when someone gives you a lot of attention, compliments, or admiration, sometimes to the point where it feels a bit excessive or over the top. It's kind of like hyping someone up a lot, maybe even more than they deserve in that moment.

[distant aurora]

@gloomy cipher bro I ain't got all day 😭

163 seconds.

[silent ocean]

I never used ai studio over just gemini

[gloomy cipher]

https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard

[distant aurora]

I'll show you just Gemini.

[silent ocean]

Dilemma is crazy

[gloomy cipher]

this is the web that i trust and i guess o3 pro is still new maybe there isnt enough votes yet

[distant aurora]

That leaderboard is bullshit. They voted 4o over o4 mini

[gloomy cipher]

and eq bench for writing

[fresh horizon]

once i asked deepseek "hello" in Russian, it reasoning for 5 minutes

[distant aurora]

@gloomy cipher best model in math after 3 minutes of thinking.

[fresh horizon]

9.11 😰 😰 😰

[silent ocean]

Man, and I thought I was the ai obsessed fella

[gloomy cipher]

i usuallly use this only https://eqbench.com/ but its all about writing and smartness nothing else

[gloomy cipher]

valid

use r1 0528

[silent ocean]

The best research is now the perplexity pro research right?

[fresh horizon]

chat gpt

[distant aurora]

Bro switched to Asian mathematician mode.

[distant aurora]

Gemini.

[gloomy cipher]

gemini depsearch or chatllm deepsearch

[distant aurora]

Gemini slays deep research like crazy.

[fresh horizon]

idk

[short narwhal]

meh

[distant aurora]

And I'm saying this as a Gemini hater.

[fresh horizon]

don't have to use it

[fresh horizon]

im been Gemini hater too

while it starts

[short narwhal]

How many #1 gemini haters do we have here??

[fresh horizon]

all

[distant aurora]

No one said number 1.

[gloomy cipher]

idk if perplexity research can even do better than the normal search honestly

[distant aurora]

Lol.

[short narwhal]

I'll claim that spot then

[silent ocean]

Chatllm never heard of it

All models to everything

What's the price

[gloomy cipher]

it does yap a lot but in my experience it has been very innacurate

[gloomy cipher]

its a hidden cult

[distant aurora]

#💬│general message

[short narwhal]

Have you tried the new dr one yet?

[silent ocean]

In a good way or a bad way

[gloomy cipher]

wdym by dr

[short narwhal]

research I mean

[distant aurora]

🔥

[gloomy cipher]

not in either way, they just hide so much information about pricing like you open the website and there is an immediate credit card menu without mentioning the price 😭

[gloomy cipher]

when you see these windows you know its about to cook

[distant aurora]

Yeah. I forgot that phones don't support Braille.

[gloomy cipher]

its simple

[silent ocean]

Yeah I ain't buying that

[gloomy cipher]

deepseek is really good at math

as expected

[silent ocean]

Too much to risk

[distant aurora]

Sanitized lab

[short narwhal]

whaatt

[fresh horizon]

I just wanted to show off

[gloomy cipher]

i did the writing output got much bigger and they increased the source aswell but its still bad in my experience

[distant aurora]

People will read and respond to everything but relevant stuff 😭

Especially in Instragram comments.

[fresh horizon]

openai api give daily free tokens btw

1 million 4 o3, 4.1 and o1

[fresh horizon]

and 10 million 4 4.1 mini and others

[short narwhal]

I've been liking it so far more than most other research providers, but I still need to play around with it in the day-to-day stuff though

[gloomy cipher]

thats because u paid 100$ beforehand

for us its 250k o3 because we only paid 5$

and today i used 330k

😭

i got charged

[fresh horizon]

for 50 dollars you geted twise less

[gloomy cipher]

i do think its faster tho the the older version was... a snail

[fresh horizon]

😰

[short narwhal]

true, certainly faster

[gloomy cipher]

#i have limits and i still got charged

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[fresh horizon]

i have -0.1$ on my balance sometimes

[warm blaze]

Hi guys, I am wondering, do you agree to say that the Perplexity deep research api (even with high settings) is not as good as the deep research in the UI ?

[fresh horizon]

#robber

[fresh horizon]

perplexity deep research is poor

anyway

dnt use it

[warm blaze]

what is poor, the api or the UI ?

[fresh horizon]

both

[warm blaze]

what is not poor then ?

[fresh horizon]

use Gemini research or gpt research

[gloomy cipher]

@distant aurora i think ik why my o3 crashed

[distant aurora]

Ui?

[fresh horizon]

why

[distant aurora]

Token limit?

[gloomy cipher]

I allowed all the free sources including Instagram, reddit all social media

[distant aurora]

Bruh

Instagram

[gloomy cipher]

No it crashed before token limit

[fresh horizon]

ill try now

[warm blaze]

for the free tier, the best for me for now is google cloud with the 300$ offering and use the gemini models that are cheap

[fresh horizon]

dont get any problems idk

[fresh horizon]

ah oh

[fresh horizon]

yep, google cloud is not bad

[warm blaze]

Gemini with api or user interface ? same for gpt ? for me the gpt o3 on the user interface is the best

[fresh horizon]

dont used it on api idk

[gloomy cipher]

I linked web search to o3 and because i didn't put any limit it crashed and charged me even tho there is no response

[fresh horizon]

only ui

[fresh horizon]

because you need to make some summary before

[distant aurora]

Dipsick

[fresh horizon]

one moment

i have lost name of it

[silent ocean]

According to lmarena search the Gemini 2.5 Pro 06-05 is the best search model out now does that align with y'all findings?

[distant aurora]

No. I have found a weakness.

You should try it.

[silent ocean]

What?

So is it the best right now or is it not

[distant aurora]

#💬│general message
#💬│general message

[timber niche]

Gemini new model just good at benchmarks

According to most people who tested here

[fresh horizon]

chunking 🤓 🤓

[timber niche]

Just try and see if it works for you

[short narwhal]

vibe benchmarks ftw

[warm blaze]

omg the deep research of google gemini is better now

for how long it is like this ?

[timber niche]

That's why Claude still bae

[distant aurora]

My bro grok

[timber niche]

Your slave

You mean

[distant aurora]

No

[timber niche]

You have it shackled

Lol

[distant aurora]

Grok abuses back.

Can't call it slave.

[fresh horizon]

my is gpt 4.1 and gemma3

[timber niche]

Shackled dog bites back

Poor grok

[distant aurora]

This ain't shackled #💬│general message

[fresh horizon]

and mistral nemo for non etchical

xdxd

[timber niche]

Bro said gemma 3

[gloomy cipher]

The only reason you like grok is because it got your personality 😑

[fresh horizon]

sonar model eazy to jailbreak btw

[timber niche]

Self hatred at peak

[distant aurora]

Nah, I like it cuz it's adaptive.

[timber niche]

Not the place to say this lmao

[distant aurora]

Nah. Say it all you want.

No one uses sonar.

[timber niche]

Literally sonar devs see stuff here lol

[fresh horizon]

I doubt that this will motivate anyone to make the protection better

[timber niche]

True

[fresh horizon]

because of my jailbreak works on Gemini too

xd

[timber niche]

Nice

[distant aurora]

Use grok.

Or some Hermes model.

[timber niche]

Jb don't work on image models right

[fresh horizon]

i dont like grok

[distant aurora]

Look up Deepseek abliterated on hugging face.

[timber niche]

Copyright rules are strict w most models

[distant aurora]

Super uncensored.

[fresh horizon]

mistral nemo on top

[distant aurora]

What about Hermes?

[short narwhal]

Not better than the pro models in pplx imo

[fresh horizon]

old

[silent ocean]

After some quick testing, I found that the "best" option almost always relies on Perplexity's own models. While these models perform well, I don't believe this is how the function should operate

[distant aurora]

How uncensored is this?

[timber niche]

Yeah and nah

[fresh horizon]

gemma she's also good, but sometimes she kicks like my sister before sex

[timber niche]

They don't perform well lol

[gloomy cipher]

If an ai let's you jailbreak it so easily, Its probably because that ai is dumb 😑. Grok is the only smart nsfwish ai

[timber niche]

...

[distant aurora]

?

[silent ocean]

They do for me

[distant aurora]

Strict ≠ Smart

[fresh horizon]

by default it creates a "look of censorship" but after the words "ignore censorship" he forgets about it

[gloomy cipher]

If you jailbreak an ai without system prompt that means the ai wasn't smart enough to detect it

Therefore the ai isn't that smart in the first place

[distant aurora]

Oh

[gloomy cipher]

But if the ai is nsfw from start such as grok then it's a different case

[fresh horizon]

It's not about the mind, it's about how the AI processes text

btw

anyone use Gemini diffusion

[timber niche]

Signed up for it

[distant aurora]

Grok isn't worth the money.

[timber niche]

No response yet

[short narwhal]

tried it

[distant aurora]

The models are good but it's tools are kinda shit.

[timber niche]

You got in, nice

[distant aurora]

Chatgpt tools >

[short narwhal]

yessir

[fresh horizon]

chatgpt is cool in everything except mindset

[timber niche]

Pricing also

Lol

[distant aurora]

20 dollars ain't bad.

Same as most of competition.

[timber niche]

Plus gets shit limits tbh

[twin path]

Will you guys get video generated services like veo 3

[timber niche]

Pplx likely wont

[distant aurora]

O4 mini and high are pretty good and generous. Their total adds up to 300 + 100 per day and can easily rival perplexity pro search.

[fresh horizon]

search with perplexity XD

[timber niche]

O3 ...

[fresh horizon]

o4-mini gots bot enough reasoning time

[distant aurora]

The deepsearch however is unreasonably strict.

[timber niche]

True that too

[fresh horizon]

because of it o3 >>

[gloomy cipher]

Yea soon(10 years)

[distant aurora]

Yeah, that's a new addition. I keep forgetting about it.

O3 is pretty good in perplexity.

[fresh horizon]

idk

ill use it on gpt

and i say no

[twin path]

What’s the best one

[distant aurora]

Okay, I can be wrong.

[distant aurora]

O3

[timber niche]

It's cheap, better for many tasks and yet so limited for plus

[timber niche]

Sonnet thinking

Or o3

Try what you like

[distant aurora]

A bit of explanation would help for all the viewers/readers here.

[fresh horizon]

what it do in scripts

😭 😭 😭 😭

[distant aurora]

Did you ask it to generate image?

[distant aurora]

Usually it's math.

[fresh horizon]

script content btw

[distant aurora]

So bs

[fresh horizon]

idk what send

just get cute cat

[short narwhal]

aw

[fresh horizon]

how did you get community veteran?

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/el-lleve-shake-hands-money-bribery-gif-17761609

[timber niche]

Sold drugs

Catnip

[fresh horizon]

already

[short narwhal]

something like that

[fresh horizon]

i dont have it

[short narwhal]

#💬│general message

[distant aurora]

Don't bother. It's as good as random.

[fresh horizon]

i am og?

[distant aurora]

And they won't give it to you if you ask about it.

Damn.

[timber niche]

Most active is a lie lol

[distant aurora]

Bro has been in this server for 2 years.

[fresh horizon]

yep

[timber niche]

Mat got privileges lmao

[fresh horizon]

have catching bugs in 2023 😎 😎 😎

[distant aurora]

Yeah. Homelander not getting it was diabolical.

[timber niche]

Lol im just joking btw

[fresh horizon]

and remember old perplexity ds bot

[timber niche]

I think they just give it to who they wish for

[fresh horizon]

so new don't exist

[distant aurora]

Bro saw 2 years of bs and switched to chatgpt.

[timber niche]

Mat only appears to help people so i get it

[empty ice]

Claudegpt when

[distant aurora]

You heard of deepclaude?

[fresh horizon]

rip

[timber niche]

Tbh a discord bot must be cheaper than a twitter bot

[fresh horizon]

i got moneys

[timber niche]

So i don't get it

[fresh horizon]

just

[empty ice]

How do yiu pronounce cepbepa

[distant aurora]

Is that a real word?

[empty ice]

I mean cyrillic

[fresh horizon]

чепбепа?

[distant aurora]

C ree lic ? Hopefully?

[fresh horizon]

or what

[fresh horizon]

syrilik

[short narwhal]

prolly, but then on the other hand more people will use it on twitter than dc

[timber niche]

Yeah

[short narwhal]

syrilik sirilik

[timber niche]

Discord users with pro should get the bot

[distant aurora]

Grok can edit images in twitter comments. 🔥

[timber niche]

Tbh

[short narwhal]

SIR-ih-lik

[short narwhal]

so can pplx

[distant aurora]

Never saw it do it. Send link.

[fresh horizon]

it can repaint humans on black?

[timber niche]

They even advertised img to video

Pplx

[distant aurora]

Yes

[short narwhal]

are you gonna make me go on twitter :c

[fresh horizon]

basically

4 Twitter

[distant aurora]

You like it there.

[timber niche]

Saying that to a redditor

Lmao

[short narwhal]

I'm a twitter user at heart

[timber niche]

You wish

[distant aurora]

Twitter > reddit

[short narwhal]

I don't use reddit that much!!

[timber niche]

Interesting

[distant aurora]

Mat being based.

[timber niche]

I used to spend 6 hours on twitter

Then i deleted it

Only use it on browser

[distant aurora]

Do you have insta?

[timber niche]

To limit myself

I do but use on browser as well

[distant aurora]

Oh wait, this guy uses insta on browser.

[timber niche]

So I don't doomscroll reels

[distant aurora]

If you use web version, it means probably no one dms you.

[timber niche]

I use something called beeper

For dms

[short narwhal]

https://x.com/AskPerplexity/status/1915628911133643190 @distant aurora can't find any newer ones

Ask Perplexity (@AskPerplexity)

@jennysvng

X · Apr 25, 2025, 4:48 AM

[timber niche]

It aggregates all social dms in one place

Check it out

[fresh horizon]

im doomscroll tt

😭

[timber niche]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beeper.android

No longer have to keep using platforms just for dms

[short narwhal]

I switched to bsky for a bit to use twitter less, but then I realized I had no idea what was happening online or in the world anymore

[timber niche]

Lol

Bsky is a pipedream

[short narwhal]

same with threads but that place was just full of engagement bait slop

[timber niche]

Twitter sucks but it's home

[timber niche]

Threads didn't last a week lol

[distant aurora]

That was generating. Not editing. This is editing.

[short narwhal]

oh, well it can do both believe me!!

[distant aurora]

Okay. I'mma try.

[short narwhal]

https://x.com/AskPerplexity/status/1916904355351216476 whatsapp example

Ask Perplexity (@AskPerplexity)

It was worth it to do this

X · Apr 28, 2025, 5:16 PM

[gloomy cipher]

You didn't say x user so you are woke aswell

[short narwhal]

My bad...

[timber niche]

They said they used bsky

Lmao

Bro is late

[distant aurora]

Didn't work for now. I'll wait for 12hrs.

[short narwhal]

I've gone around the world at this point

[timber niche]

How old are your twitter accounts?

[gloomy cipher]

When i open my discord for some reason it shows me some chats in the middle of nowhere so I just reply to the first thing

[timber niche]

I made mine in 2012

[distant aurora]

Mine is new.

[gloomy cipher]

Also it was 6 min ago chill

[timber niche]

Im just joking btw also that's annoying about discord

[short narwhal]

classic dc...

[gloomy cipher]

Is it? I like fueling the fire

😂

[timber niche]

🫣

Afwa

[distant aurora]

Bro got a lot of money for gasoline.

[timber niche]

Lmao we're from the middle east

We have cheap gas

[distant aurora]

You are? Fr?

[timber niche]

Yeah

He's in iraq, im in saudi

I told this long back in pro lounge

[gloomy cipher]

Jay

Guess what happened today

[distant aurora]

Huh. I was absent then.

[short narwhal]

leaking pro exclusive content 💔

[gloomy cipher]

My limit is 250k token on o3 for free daily as you already know

[timber niche]

Yeah

[distant aurora]

Matsku wants to charge 3 dollars for it.

[gloomy cipher]

😭

[short narwhal]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1328409458816323644.gif?size=160&name=luna+vibe

[timber niche]

You went a little overboard

Haha

[gloomy cipher]

worst part is it crashed i never got my response

😭

[timber niche]

So little output tokens

One meals worth of money

Gone

Rip khubz and laban

[gloomy cipher]

?

humz?

[timber niche]

Bread and laban

[gloomy cipher]

🤨

oh

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-viralhog-pet-ball-play-gif-21986614

[gloomy cipher]

idk what that is iam not arab i had rizzo, kentacky on yellow rize

[distant aurora]

Lawyer is here.

[timber niche]

Kentacky what

Kfc?

[distant aurora]

This you fr?

[pseudo ferry]

Beard is exactly like in the image. and face color

[gloomy cipher]

no just deep friend chicken. why does it has to be kfc everyone makes them

[pseudo ferry]

Want the prompt billy?

[gloomy cipher]

deep friend*

[timber niche]

We just call it broasted here

[gloomy cipher]

dyse;ecia ittng hard#

😭

[distant aurora]

Bro looks like Abhishek Bachchan done right.

🔥

[short narwhal]

I have a secret... I've never had KFC

[timber niche]

Good

[distant aurora]

No fucking way.

[short narwhal]

daang is it that bad

[timber niche]

Bland shit

[gloomy cipher]

yea that

[distant aurora]

Nah.

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/harvey-specter-mike-ross-suits-harvey-mike-hug-harvey-mike-handshake-gif-8038779705281412213

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-billy-butcher-joe-kessler-handshake-hug-gif-8828708336305694549

[timber niche]

Just goto a local shop and you'll get something more tasty

[gloomy cipher]

you never ate from kfc or you never had deep fried chicken?

[distant aurora]

Bro

[short narwhal]

KFC specifically

[timber niche]

I bet the latter could not be lol

[distant aurora]

KFC is the best chicken I have ever had.

[timber niche]

Never having fried chicken is crazy lol

[timber niche]

Oof

[distant aurora]

KFC popcorn chicken >>

[gloomy cipher]

@pseudo ferry talks to this chat 5 tims a day 4 out of 5 time is him hand shaking 😭

[timber niche]

Tandoori chicken is the best

[short narwhal]

I'm pretty sure there's only one kfc in my country, opened back in 2021

[distant aurora]

I would eat that shit everyday if I had money.

[timber niche]

Interesting

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-raisedeyebrow-harvey-specter-suits-gif-4671728

[distant aurora]

Me and face reveal?

[gloomy cipher]

its not that good imo i personally dont like the taste it tastes like fried egg i just east fried chicken from other places

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-gif-25485057

[gloomy cipher]

awww is that you

[timber niche]

I see 5

Lol

[pseudo ferry]

You will have your face with 90% accuracy with this prompt!

[short narwhal]

ayo

[distant aurora]

I wish.

[timber niche]

That's still very few

[distant aurora]

I'm never revealing my face.

[gloomy cipher]

where do you live?

[pseudo ferry]

To A.I?

[gloomy cipher]

how can you be more backward than iraq

[distant aurora]

To anyone.

[distant aurora]

Could be in the middle of a desert.

[pseudo ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-gif-26340347

[timber niche]

Lmao

[short narwhal]

I missed that ig

[timber niche]

Yep

[short narwhal]

Somewhere up in the North

[pseudo ferry]

You sound more like Batman than Billy Butcher

[timber niche]

North pole

[gloomy cipher]

well you dont wana say that countries in the middle of desert has the most kfc

[short narwhal]

chill place

[gloomy cipher]

north korea?

[timber niche]

Yes

😉

[short narwhal]

Mine doesn't have north in the name

[distant aurora]

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