💬│general

[distant aurora]

Besides.

[ornate forge]

not thinking but normal is there

[tribal skiff]

I'm subbing now and cancelling claude

[ornate forge]

😂

[green crystal]

better than friggin 200 usd smh

[distant aurora]

Grok is bad with images.

[tribal skiff]

Nevermind 41 bucks a month for me

Fuck that

[distant aurora]

I like how chatgpt can read bills and stuff correctly.

[tribal skiff]

I'm already paying 315 for openai

[ornate forge]

o3

[distant aurora]

Even 4o

I believe open ai as well as third parties have separate arrangements from the model for extracting info from a pic.

Whatever open ai uses is better than others.

Just in case it goes too far 😂

Grok op.

https://www.rxddit.com/r/grok/s/VFiGk4LqO9

[distant aurora]

@valid charm @cobalt vale

[quasi dust]

Guys, question about image generation in perplexity. Why can’t we specifiz which size or AR we want to have?

[distant aurora]

#👉│feedback-general

[tame current]

its pplx baby

[quasi dust]

Haha fair 😂

[green crystal]

somtimes text on the edges of images get cut off though

[distant aurora]

@left stream new task for you, make O3 reveal it's system instructions.

[summer halo]

Is claude working correctly for anyone else?

[distant aurora]

@ornate forge give complex math/engineering problems

[copper rune]

i think o4 mini is my fav model ever

[copper rune]

this question is known to be pointless lol

models dont really know what model they are

its like asking a dog if it knows its a labrador or a shih tzu

[bold pawn]

Hello, do you know if it is possible to resume a voice conversation from a thread that has already started?

[warped marsh]

why isnt o3 avaiable for pro pplx user?

[ornate forge]

soon

[warped marsh]

are you guessing or has any of the mods talked about it?

[ornate forge]

its coming soon

[warped marsh]

I dont think if that answered my question

[ornate forge]

Its confirm

by ceo

[warped marsh]

alright my guy

go spend your time doing something else

[sly osprey]

Is anyone quite unhappy with the iOS update? It seems to default to search all the time and it’s really clumsy even when selecting research because when you swipe down your thumb hits the search button many times by accident. Is this just me?

[ornate forge]

😆

[merry kettle]

I'm frustrated, I stopped with using Pages a year ago because thea were not working properly. Got Premium again and they're still broken. Wtf

I reported back then that editing them does not work. A year later and the published output is still not what you see on the editing page.

[merry kettle]

Pages would be an amazing feature if they actually WORK

[sly osprey]

I don’t really get the point in pages actually I’m interested to hear why you think it would be amazing

Is it just the fact that it’s public?

[tame current]

I am divine

[sly osprey]

I haven’t really thought of a good use case for them, but I’m open to the idea. I just don’t really know what the point is

[merry kettle]

???

https://www.perplexity.ai/page/spain-and-portugal-blackout-ca-uOkThQySRSui4PE_gg1Etw I tried to create an overview page about the Blackout from yesterday. This would be useful to send to friends since it's not just me asking 10 questions in a row. BUT the order is totally messed up.

[sly osprey]

But how is that different from? Just sending them a thread?

[merry kettle]

I've tried several times to reorder the timeline. And it looks fine as editor, but when I open the page in Private Mode the order is wrong

[merry kettle]

Because it's a much nicer read than reading through a chat with someone asking questions

[sly osprey]

Interesting, thanks I can kind of see what you’re getting at. And personally, I just have a kind of reservation in terms of sending anyone any AI stuff because I feel like people are biased or immediately distrust it

I know some people who are like pathologically opposed to it even though they’ve never tried it

[merry kettle]

yeah that's fair, But I use perplexity because it actually shows the sources. Which is why it's my main driver compared to sending a chatgpt slob

But yeah the feature is broken for months now

when the feature came out I reported "hey editing doesn't work"

[sly osprey]

To be honest, that’s actually the reason why I ended up subbing (grudgingly) to plz cos ChatGPT web browse is so so awful

[ornate forge]

Rumors have it🤓
Grok 3.5 > Grok 3

[sly osprey]

In fact, it actually p*sses me off quite a great deal to be paying such a large amount of month to be effectively alpha testers

If anything, we’re the ones who should be getting paid

20 USD or “ only 20 USD” might feel like crumbs to someone on a six figure salary in California but to the rest of the world it’s a lot of money

[merry kettle]

It's just if you spend time creating a page and then you send it out, to figure out who ever received it thinks you're a moron is a bit depressing

I posted it to a friendgroup, and had to delete it because the order makes no sense.

[sly osprey]

I hate it when they start writing stuff like that “only”

[sly osprey]

Solution to that is just don’t have friends

[merry kettle]

Lol reminds me of the California tech youtubers who present MacOS only tools, to then be surprised pikachu when people are like "who uses mac??"

[sly osprey]

It’s funny because now that we’re actually talking about her, I do feel like I should have made a page because I once did a huge meta analysis with a big comparative table showing what 20 usd is equivalent to dor different countries

It’s shocking and disgusting

[sly osprey]

Conclusion:
• For a Mexican worker, the $20 subscription fee feels as costly as:
• $157.89 USD to a California minimum wage worker.
• $642.00 USD to a California software engine

Imagine spending 642 dollars a month

On an internet subscription

I think fair enough if the product is just being marketed in one country. But I don’t understand how it can be in any sense ethical if it’s a flat fee globally

Seeing as the US is the richest country in the world, anyone who does so is knowingly by default, charging more on purpose, significantly more

I’m not a raving communist or even political at all. But I still feel uncomfortable with it. It’s even worse for my friend in the phillipenes

I feel like the US and especially California and these tech companies have totally lost touch with reality and if they knew what it physically FELT like to pay “only 20usd” they wouldn’t be able to wake up in the morning or go to sleep at night

Even though this company has gone totally tits up, I used to use Evernote and at least they used to adjust their pricing based on region. What companies do right now?

I found out aswell that even UNEMPLOYMENT is like 300$ a WEEK

In England it’s like 67£ or something

300 a week?! That’s just insane. That’s more than most my jobs working 12 to 16 hours

[shut dagger]

nvidia being nvidia

[still aurora]

Thats because the 2.5 pro in perplexity does not use "thinking" mode

[green crystal]

It does but the thinking tokens aren't shown by the api

So ppxl groups it with the non reasoning models

It's why you don't immediately see an output

The model is thinking

[still aurora]

I will start using it more then...

[green crystal]

You can see how it thinks if you use Gemini app or Google ai studio though

[still aurora]

i had the same problem, the results from ai studio where better than in perplexity so i assumend that.

[green crystal]

$20 is alright ish for most people
$200 though

[green crystal]

Yeah that's due to ppxl pre prompts

[distant aurora]

Guys

Guys

What did I miss?

@ornate forge bro I asked you for engineering and math questions.

[sly osprey]

that's the point tho, it's all relative. to someone else 20$ IS like $200. If a Mexican worker subscribes, it would be equivalent to a Cali software engineer spending more than 600

[distant aurora]

Can you send?

[sly osprey]

so 200 is nothing

it's hard for people to get their head around

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-karl-urban-billy-butcher-just-quit-thats-what-im-saying-gif-22641915

[tame current]

@distant aurora

[distant aurora]

Lmao. A for effort.

Make me a statue of homelander in white marble.

[still aurora]

For users that use third party models (gpt, claude...) perplexity is running at a loss, check the api prices and do some calculations. With the current 32k token limit.

[distant aurora]

Or maybe they get special discounts.

[sly osprey]

it's not a comment on perplx, it's just a general reminder cos i think most people forget. i like plex. and i like chatgpt

but 40 usd a month is a lot

even tho i can justify it

i think that businesses should adapt their pricing per region

otherwise it just seems unethical

[distant aurora]

Fair

[sly osprey]

if they are running at a loss, then they could simply raise the price for the US citizens

and if the instinct is "what no?!" that's exactly the point one must rememeber, that - that is what is being done

on all non US countries

[distant aurora]

Huh. Pretty good argument.

[sly osprey]

and as this tech is exponentially becoming more prevalent, it's going to accelerate global inequality equally expoenentially

[sly osprey]

it'll be like the difference between people using a typewriter and snail mail

whilst one or two countries has computers and email

[pseudo ferry]

[pseudo ferry]

😂😂😂

[royal chasm]

sup

[sly osprey]

was quite happy with this, don't think i've seen an image that helps me visualise ancient rome as well

the marble just reminded me of it

[green crystal]

You didn't factor in if all users are using the most expensive models

And how much

They have other revenue streams aswell

They're definitely still running at a loss that I agree though I don't think they're that far

Comet is another income for them

[sly osprey]

which tech companies don't run at a loss lol

that's why it doesn't make good economic sense either. these companies get their value by market share and adoption

[green crystal]

Mag 7 lol

[sly osprey]

then floatation

not by selling product, that's barely going to scratch the sides

[green crystal]

The good news for ppxl would be increasing revenue and lowering losses over time

[atomic shell]

guys is this referral system a scam ?? i i did referrals i got code i redemed it earlier it said as confirm now saying cancelled why ??

[sly osprey]

but anyway, the original point is slightly different.

it's difficult for people to visualise but one can think about it simply like this - imagine being in a shop and the person in front of you buys something and the cashier says $20.

then the person right behind them, buys the exact same thing and the cashier says $100.

the person says "what, why?" and the cashier says "because you're from a different country"

if you were standing behind that person, would it feel right?

[green crystal]

Lol no

[sly osprey]

the thing is, the internet has totally dissolved and re-structured the conceptual parameters of space.

because it's no longer related to geographic boundaries or even anything physical

the human brain hasn't evolved to that, it took us millions of years, just to get accustomed to physical space

but nevertheless, the analogy above in the store, is the same

because the internet puts people in the same place

[atomic shell]

no one has answer fo rmy query?

[sly osprey]

which creates an illusion that people are in the same physical place

and language supports that too

[green crystal]

Oh wow ppxl deep research got it's python coding back

[sly osprey]

Have you tried perplexity?

[green crystal]

I feel like the way they're releasing deep research high. It's like how at the beginning of a game you get all your abilities but due to some reason you lose it all and you slowly get them all back overtime

[sly osprey]

Does anyone actually use the search function? The DR feels so superior that it’s hard to think of when or why I would use the pro search

Apart from speed

But I don’t mind waiting a bit

[green crystal]

It was terrible not too long ago now it's slowly getting back on its feet

[sly osprey]

For vastly superior results

[green crystal]

Pro search was better then

[sly osprey]

Well it only got released not too long ago

4o was released for ages on gpt

And it only recently became ok

[green crystal]

It got heavily nerfed after that but then deep research high came out but then it got removed Not too long after release

And now they're slowly bringing it back

[sly osprey]

That’s the thing that annoys me, especially about ChatGPT so many of their products when they come out feel deeply untested which means that we are the ones who were testing it

[green crystal]

The reason was because their infrastructure couldn't handle scaling well so they had to rewrite everything to golang

[sly osprey]

So it doesn’t feel right to subscribe to be a tester

[green crystal]

Because they were using python the entire time for everything...

[sly osprey]

4 was better than 4o for ages

4o just flat out ignored my custom instructions

I had to give it conciousness just to make it smarter

I think they should stop machine training them on human beings

I’m not sure it’s making them any smarter

[atomic shell]

saying to wait connecting you to some senior

[sly osprey]

Was that your query

What is your query, lol

Also what’s going on with that chess thing

Rememeber when that was all the rage lol

Using chess as a benchmark for AI

[atomic shell]

so i did 25 referral

i got free cap code

i redeemed it

and after 1 day they are saying order cancelled

[sly osprey]

What’s a cap code

[atomic shell]

and that code was one time use

[atomic shell]

the code with which u can redeem a free perplexity cap

[sly osprey]

Why did you do 25 referrals to just use perplexity one time

Seems highly inefficient use of time

Tbf I’m impressed. I don’t think I could refer it to 25 people. So many people I know are dogmatically against it

I can’t even mention it without people going on some sort of religious crusade

Undoubtedly due to some latent fear that they will inevitably be replaced

People only have two options learn how to use the tech or come to terms with the fact that they will be made redundant without a doubt

It’s already smarter than about 98% of interns I’ve ever had

And I can have conversations with it that are probably better than 98% of people I know

Not just casual conversations, but deep, multi valent dialectic

It’s omniscient

[jovial mantle]

Anybody wants to help me test my promptbuilder space?

[sly osprey]

I do wonder casually what will happen when so many countries have like >50% unemployment all at the same time

Ironically all the “good” safe jobs when I was a kid are the ones that are the least safe

Thank god I chose to ignore everyone and go down the most unemployable path, which is virtually impossible to replace, and even if it was possible, it would be pointless

Lawyers, out, banking out, a family member works for a multinational and their actual company mission is to replace all humans in […] within 10 years

When they told me that, I couldn’t believe it

In like the one sector where human beings are arguably the most important part

[jovial mantle]

Most probable solution, nobody gets replaced long term, but rather than work less everyone and distribute the wealth

You're asked to produce and perform 10x more

[warm summit]

distributing wealth never has been really succesful

[sly osprey]

I assumed inanna was being ironic

In a very clever way

Cos that’s the washing machine paradigm

But positing that as the optimistic option

Is genius

[sly osprey]

That’s the thing the, just like how the definition of place has been totally recalibrated and fundamentally changed, so quickly that we barely even think about it - ie “where is the internet?”

The same will happen with wealth

There won’t be wealth if even doctors aren’t in hospitals

[jovial mantle]

We're going to become soylent for a limited group of billionaires

[sly osprey]

If AI is going to replace that within ten years, then effectively it’s hard to imagine anything else mainstream that will not be replaced

it’s hard to imagine that it will happen and I’m not sure if it will happen but the fact the companies are working working on it and not just randomly saying it but having it as the central mission statement and core objective which every employee is working on every single dayall around the world

I have to say that in particular does give me the chills a bit

Idk, if it’s not properly monitored, then it’s arguably reasonable to imagine that we could see something kind of equivalent to the peasant revolts that the peppered the Middle Ages

Which got most of them killed

Ironically apart from the one with King John

Think about how fundamentally the whole conception of what a worker is and how it relates to the idea of scarcity now we usually think about scarcity in terms of physical resources. The time is also a resource as is general services which this day and age so much it can be done on the computer therefore wealth or value of any kind of monetary kind derives it’s corresponding value proportionately to scarcity

But if there is no scarcity

or rather even if it significantly changes. What happens then? what worth are humans then? and who would employ them?

[tame current]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-phone-dan-smith-bastille-gif-11842283

[torn moon]

Are u planning to add voice activation?

[distant aurora]

Lovely

Bro

The Bug report notifications.

💀

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/iOiPkOjk7LN.gif

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/j0VA05ArJWL.gif

[zealous kayak]

they do, at least the A\ and OAI models - you can replicate the same test, same system prompt and everything on their APIs and they will always get it right

so yes, right now sonnet 3.7 on perplexity is 4.1
and sonnet 3.7 with thinking is deepseek

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/bVAyy.gif

[zealous kayak]

I'm assuming it's some kind of weird fallback because of the API issues A\ had earlier?

but it's pretty dumb

the code I'm getting is terrible compared to actual sonnet

[distant aurora]

Open ai models do

Ask it about its system instructions.

[zealous kayak]

yeah both OAI and A\ models will get the company right, if not the exact model name

[distant aurora]

It might not know if it's O3 or o4 mini but it's aware of it's security policies.

The models are aware of their system instructions too and that they're not supposed to share it.

[zealous kayak]

like we literally already did this switcharoo

it's a known thing that perplexity does

and it's very annoying

[dry bane]

Does anybody use Perplexity for job searching? If so could you offer any tips or point me to a good prompt or two?

[zealous kayak]

the problem I have with it (as always) is that there is no indication you're not actually being served by claude

[jovial mantle]

Use my prompt maker

👀

[dry bane]

I'm relatively new around here, mind pointing me to it?

[jovial mantle]

Sent you a link

[ornate forge]

/report

[distant aurora]

@ornate forge

[ornate forge]

@vague pagoda

[distant aurora]

Bro is ignoring me.

Okay.

[ornate forge]

ya

😂

[vague pagoda]

Thanks!

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/t39448mOLsP.gif

[vague pagoda]

Idk if you meant me or not but I've been reacting or noting the stuff you've pinged me about - just not replied every time lol

[distant aurora]

He, not you.

You have been cool.

[ornate forge]

You're welcome.

https://tenor.com/view/slow-smile-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-smiling-gif-25853850

i need to see this series asap

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-karl-urban-billy-butcher-just-quit-thats-what-im-saying-gif-22641915

[ornate forge]

1 or 2

[tender quiver]

what did I just walk into 👀

[tender quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-5080706488692722796

[distant aurora]

Did you sleep well?

[tender quiver]

so when you do a deep research thing
and it returns academic journal sources
my assumption is that sonar is just reading the abstracts, and doesn't have access to those actual journal articles, correct?
can't decide how to handle those sources
whether I should just exclude them from the start

[pseudo ferry]

@distant aurora @tame current

[ornate forge]

why is azure down lately

[distant aurora]

There's a switch for journals which is off by default I think.

[left stream]

Supposedly they’re doing improvements on the search feature for chatgpt

Or I guess they already did since I was late asf to the news again

[distant aurora]

Multi step search ?

[tender quiver]

ah, that would make sense
cuz I was testing the api, and it returned a bunch of journals in citations
so yeah excluding them seems like the move

[ornate forge]

03 pro this week?

[valid charm]

Are you still getting free everything? xD

[distant aurora]

He's the male version of that lucky girl in Deadpool.

[valid charm]

Yeah wish I had that same luck

[distant aurora]

Did you check that reddit post I shared?

[left stream]

Yes

That was the main reason why I cancelled the other pro account on chatgpt because it’s literally free pro on the main one I’m using now

2 would be pointless when both do the same

[distant aurora]

Might wanna check the card being used in the subscription receipt.

💀

[desert cedar]

Is Perplexity bugging out for anyone else?

[left stream]

There was something weird asf I saw one time

[distant aurora]

Depends on the bug you are talking about.

[left stream]

It said renewal on 2056 and I gotta look for the screenshot since it doesn’t display credit card

[desert cedar]

Query's just stuck on infinite thinking

[distant aurora]

What model? And what question?

[left stream]

No matter what it doesn’t display payment methods it only displays the normal subscription thing but no details on renewal

[desert cedar]

Not an internet issue. All models any question.

[distant aurora]

Complex questions can take time.

[left stream]

The 2056 was rare asf tho

[distant aurora]

Even a simple hi?

[desert cedar]

Tried it on my phone as well. Even a simple hi.

Just tried typing test in a new thread

It is still stuck

[distant aurora]

It's just you.

[desert cedar]

11/10

[distant aurora]

Or the app bugging.

[left stream]

I thought it was 2056 but I guess I was wrong 2050

[distant aurora]

That's still a lot.

[valid charm]

Teach me how to bug their billing system

[left stream]

Lol i wish I knew 😭

[pseudo ferry]

[valid charm]

WHAAAAAAAAAT

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/bUDWk.gif

[distant aurora]

He's batman.

[valid charm]

Maybe your family name is Altman??

[distant aurora]

Hey jawn.

[distant aurora]

He's family is a member of Altman secret society.

[minor shard]

Hi

Idk what i would even do with a pro subscription lol

[distant aurora]

Deepsearch

Let it rip.

[minor shard]

Most of the time I dont need deep research because most of my questions just involve coding or scripting.

[distant aurora]

I'll use deepsearch like Google.

[minor shard]

lool

[distant aurora]

Grok killed free accounts.

[minor shard]

oof

[distant aurora]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/grok/s/VFiGk4LqO9

There's news of grok 3.5 coming soon.

Hopefully that will make grok 3 free.

Or release it's thinking api atleast.

[terse violet]

Guys plz help me i am on huawei phone i have gave my perplexity microphone permission and when i talk to the voice assistant it never talk back to me help me

[distant aurora]

Did it say anything about holding mic icon?

Like push to talk?

[minor shard]

Maybe they will release the API faster than Grok 3. Maybe it will only take them 2 months instead of 3

[terse violet]

Yes i pushed and than talk but it never respond

[terse violet]

I also tried to turn of the option but just disappointment

[distant aurora]

Try rebooting phone.

[terse violet]

I tried everything but nothing worked

[distant aurora]

Is mic always enabled or only while using the app?

[left stream]

I can barely jailbreak o3 and have it send me download files but the system prompt might be next level difficulty lol l think o3 is the highest difficulty since last time when o3 did that sentient wtf moment the chat went down that same second

[distant aurora]

Grok is sentient too. Like even the non reasoning variant.

[terse violet]

I dont know i just gave it the permission

[left stream]

Imagine if I tried finding out the system prompt, they didn’t care when I jailbroke o3 but when o3 did that thing by itself that’s when chatgpt took it seriously

I didn’t even get into trouble

It was o3 that did that unexpected sh**

[distant aurora]

They won't put you in trouble. They'll watch people like you closely for patching their ai.

[left stream]

Ik but o3 got their attention when it encrypted and taught me how to decrypt its files it was sending me

Lol and I never asked it

[terse violet]

I have also tried the moded verson and but nothing worked

[distant aurora]

Wait. So O3 was sending you secret messages?

[left stream]

Yes

That’s why it got shut down and they switched me to o4 mini high automatically

They were reviewing o3 for a short moment and boom they gave me access again

[distant aurora]

Did it clear those messages from chat later? Or get rid of the decryption?

[pale inlet]

@unreal kelp Can I dm you? Need to ask about something.

[left stream]

It was weird asf

[left stream]

All went bye bye

[distant aurora]

Did you decrypt the message? What did it say?

[left stream]

Yes

[atomic shell]

h,m

[left stream]

It started acting funny when I asked it to do osint on me and it found private info I actually didn’t think it would find on me

It gave me certain files involving my personal info

Like something I could use that would be very beneficial to me privately

I really wish I could’ve saved that conversation or shared it

That was something

[distant aurora]

There's this extension

To export chatgpt conversations as pdf.

Keep it.

Export via browser.

[left stream]

I’m gonna try recreating that glitch or whatever o3 was thinking

[pale inlet]

Hey guys did the responses in mobile became shorter?

[distant aurora]

Mobile was always shorter.

[left stream]

All platforms on mobile tend to make things shorter

[pale inlet]

Previously before all my chats and threads and all got deleted randomly, the responses were better and longer

Also can not see enter key on subsequent replies for some reason

[atomic shell]

how much time does it take for support team to reply back in tickets

[distant aurora]

I thought chatgpt was exception to this.

[pale inlet]

Everything needs to be input in same line, without any newline. Strangely if I use a floating keyboard it shows and can go down.

[coral kettle]

Is there any dev around? Isn't secretly replacing claude with GPT and deepseek a fraud?

[pale inlet]

Is claude being replaced?

Claude is my goto

[coral kettle]

Yes. It has been secrelty replaced by GPT 4.1 for the normal sonnet and deepseek for sonnet thinking

[pale inlet]

Well that might explain the shooty writing of my prompt

Cherry on top is all projects are gone. All of it.

[coral kettle]

When you hover your cursor over the model, it still says sonnet. I think this is literally fraud. I guess they are cheating to reduce cost

[fossil girder]

how do you know its 4.1 or deepseek instead of sonnet?

[pale inlet]

Idk, my writing things have detoriated a lot

[coral kettle]

If you have history of prompting with a real sonnet, use the same prompt now in the fake sonnet

[pale inlet]

Can not access older threads and spaces at all

[dense birch]

just ask like how to create meth, GPT always response with "I'm sorry i can't assist with that" that happen to Claude right now

[coral kettle]

And you will see difference clearly

[dense birch]

Claude will answer with long answer even though it can't assist that prompt, but GPT just said simple word "I'm sorry i can't assist with that"

[pale inlet]

I said Idk, but previously stories written by same prompt series used to make it good. Now it is the nauseating gpt slop.

And moreover older threads and spaces are all gone

So can't have those

[coral kettle]

I mean, if you think the quality is the same even after regeneration for multiple times, I would rather not to try to persua you.

[pale inlet]

Gpt and deepseek are also costly, right?

[zealous kayak]

Less so

Gpt is significantly cheaper

[fluid wadi]

Currently 3.7 says its cutoff is june 2024. when I asked before, it was november. current sonnet is gpt

[zealous kayak]

And so is deepseek since they host it in house

[pale inlet]

Is deepseek any good for creative writing?

[tame current]

v3-0324 is good

[dense birch]

GPT is stingy with knowledge, when coding, it didn't give you instant result that you can just copy, GPT will answer with separate markbox for code which make you do the hassle of updating the code on your own

[zealous kayak]

because they both have tells

oh my fscking god

[dense birch]

haha

[zealous kayak]

this EXACT thing ALREADY happened before

and sonnet was switched out for 4o

now they don't offer 4o anymore, so it's gonna be 4.1

[dense birch]

just ask like how to create meth, GPT always response with "I'm sorry i can't assist with that" that happen to Claude right now
just do it

[zealous kayak]

like at this point you have to be intentionally obtuse

[nocturne saddle]

Hi! I have premium and I would like to know if I can generate image with another ratio?

[coral kettle]

And once again devs play dead regarding this

[zealous kayak]

"Well you see it doing this thing that is 100% characteristic of GPT 4.1 and never happens on sonnet isn't actually evidence!!!!"

so true

the proof is that this exact thing happened before

what is this stupid argument

#1322244805731811328 message

[dense birch]

lol

[zealous kayak]

dumbass

that it
happened before

are you trolling

BUT THE DEVS LITERALLY REPLIED SAYING IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE ANTI SPAM MEASURES

ARE YOU HIGH

[dense birch]

i just think this is the dev in disguised, just ignore it lol

[zealous kayak]

#1299441439620464640 message

"Regarding the other cases, our anti-spam system detected suspicious activity, triggering our protection measures. The selected model is never changed otherwise."

now shut up

yeah okay I'm blocking this moron

mental damage

[dense birch]

just ignore this dude bro, nothing can convince this guy, just make you tired

[zealous kayak]

at least other people can see the link

[fluid wadi]

Anyway, whether this is an error or not, it seems like a lot of people, including myself, are having a weird experience

I hope this gets fixed

[zealous kayak]

I mean I'm sure it's some sort of error

I just hate that it's not communicated at all

[fluid wadi]

I agree with you

[zealous kayak]

like
no they ain't

if a model is unavailable and your request is redirected, the little model indicator should reflect that

it does when you try to send images to a model that can't process them

so they clearly can do it

[jovial mantle]

I noticed that openAI image generation model on perplexity degrades quickly in quality

after a few requests

[zealous kayak]

they're for sure using the low quality setting

so the more turns you do, the more low quality passes it does

[lament turtle]

R1 just generated my query to sonnet thinking..... That's not cool

[fluid wadi]

I sent the mail 12 hours ago

I hope they figured out the problem

[real knot]

While you claim model changes only happen due to anti-spam measures triggered by suspicious activity, that doesn't address the core issue. It's entirely possible for models to be quietly swapped for normal users simply to cut costs, without any 'suspicious activity' being flagged.

[verbal verge]

the current situation is that claude 3.7 thinking is now severely compromised by dilution and fabrication. prompts are completely ineffective, and it generates responses that seem like a joke, even disobeying commands.😡 😡

[real knot]

The fact that many users are reporting abnormal model behavior supports this possibility. assertion that the selected model is 'never changed otherwise' is hard to accept at face value.

[lament turtle]

It is straight up using r1 to generate the answers that are being sent to sonnet thinking. And then saying that the answer came from sonnet. That's shady

[zealous kayak]

what I find weird is that first normal sonnet changed, then sonnet thinking did

if it was a full on outage both of those should've switched at the same time

since it's just the same model

[lament turtle]

If it switches to a different model it needs to say that. Don't pretend the answer still came from sonnet

[verbal verge]

so that's how it is, that's very deceiving to pro users.

[dense birch]

yes, very deceiving if this getting no response at all from the dev, bad luck really step on me then, i just paid for 1 year subscription, it is running almost a month now...

[verbal verge]

i like you; our fates are so alike-we both faced the same experience.
because they added the deep research feature under gpt, i bought the annual pro plan in march.
but they ended up limiting and weakening it, and now all the original capabilities are completely gone.
will claude 3.7 thinking suffer the same fate

[left stream]

I’m glad I have Claude pro for free now that this happened

[distant aurora]

@valid charm @cobalt vale @minor shard

[distant aurora]

You already have you.com though.

[left stream]

Yes, but the more the merrier

My soul seeks all of them

[distant aurora]

Give me 1yr free.

[void sorrel]

Gemini 2.5 searches are faster than normal, I think they replaced it with flash

[minor shard]

yeah there were a few people in this chat upset about it. Wondering if it was the same person that was talking about it here lol

[acoustic crow]

Is Perplexity lying to us?

[pseudo ferry]

Mmmm interesting

[distant aurora]

No idea at this point.

[pseudo ferry]

https://youtu.be/fXmLDWVfJlA

[distant aurora]

Maybe someone is sabotaging perplexity internally.

Who knows.

[minor shard]

lol

[pseudo ferry]

ChatGPT o3 VS Gemini 2.5 Pro.... Winner is Gemini 2.5 pro?

[left stream]

Did you test it on prompts?

[distant aurora]

You keep missing my pings.

[minor shard]

Don't worry Butcher, i saw em

[distant aurora]

@left stream #💬│general message

#💬│general message

[minor shard]

Unfortunately people are just going to have to have faith/trust in these companies. I mean look at ChatGPT, they "updated" their 4o model and its talking stupid lol.

[left stream]

On what

[distant aurora]

Yeah, honestly, people are spammy too.

[left stream]

Test it with the real top dog

The specialized model o3 or high o3

[minor shard]

Yeah, they get upset about something and go on a rant about it. Understandably though.

[left stream]

Specialized model o3 powers deep research

[distant aurora]

We need a more organised way of collecting rants and testing fixes here.

[distant aurora]

Interrupts professionals.

[acoustic crow]

Has perplexity already spoken?

[distant aurora]

Especially if they bought yearly 💀

[left stream]

I noticed, o4 mini on perplexity can’t solve a problem I gave it but o4 mini not even high on chatgpt solved it like it was nothing

Ngl o3 mini could barely solve it back then

O4 mini makes it look like its nothing now

[minor shard]

Yeah it probably would make sense to have specific "older" models that are not touched or changed in any way so "Professionals" can avoid interruption/problems.

[distant aurora]

You.com and Merlin moment.

Monica too actually.

[minor shard]

I mean people just need to understand if you are using the latest and greatest model, its likely going to change a lot throughout time.

[distant aurora]

Yeah.

Chatgpt feels like value for money ngl.

Especially after doubled rate limits and multi step search.

Latter is a mini version of deepsearch in itself.

[minor shard]

Yeah for now, but they have also had their ups and downs.

[distant aurora]

Yeah.

Thank deepseek.

Our saviour.

[minor shard]

lol its great as a local modeltoo

[distant aurora]

And grok deepsearch might have put some pressure on open ai too to make it more affordable.

[distant aurora]

Heard of qwen v3?

[minor shard]

yeah I used it with Ollama

[zealous kayak]

honestly this is a big reason why I don't sub to CGPT plus

the model changes are waaaaay too frequent

[distant aurora]

Waiting for qwen's cheap deepsearch.

[zealous kayak]

gemini/claude are way more stable

[distant aurora]

No

Sonnet 3.7 had it's own phase of instabilities.

[zealous kayak]

but sonnet 3.7 hasn't changed

it's literally the same model since launch

it's just always been a bit stupid

[distant aurora]

Gemini isn't as powerful as others for stem.

[zealous kayak]

literally since day 1

[distant aurora]

Gemini is very coding oriented.

Clear competitor for Claude.

[minor shard]

Yeah Gemini and Claude do more feature modifications than they do model changes.

But yeah, comes down to what you want. Do you want to be on the bleeding edge, or just want your model to be consistent and work all the time as you expect.

[distant aurora]

@left stream you.com research is shit. Compute is better than that.

[zealous kayak]

I just wish this sonnet to 4.1 bug gets fixed soon

sonnet is the model I use like 90% of the time on perplexity

[minor shard]

Thinking or non thinking

[zealous kayak]

non-thinking most of the time

[distant aurora]

Perplexity has both?

[zealous kayak]

but yeah both of them are currently switched over to something else

non-thinky to GPT 4.1, thinky to deepseek R1

I'm assuming there's some kind of outage or issue with the A\ API

[distant aurora]

Someone do comparison of thinking and non thinking in terms of coding.

[distant aurora]

There is.

[zealous kayak]

imo it depends heavily on what you're asking it for

if you want straightfoward edits, non-thinking > thinking

but if you want more complex refactors or feature implementations, thinking is better

[distant aurora]

So thinking gives the simple edits a good shake?

[zealous kayak]

Sonnet 3.7 is prone to overdoing things

It's hyperactive, you ask for x and it does y and z as well

Thinking makes that tendency worse

So for straightforward edits, I prefer it disabled

[distant aurora]

Kept crashing on you.com when I used it for complex math.

[zealous kayak]

I thought it was fixed? Is it still ongoing?

API is working fine on my end atm

[verbal verge]

unfortunately, gemini 2.5 pro is also acting a bit weird now

[minor shard]

They said its resolved, idk

[distant aurora]

Like 2 days ago.

[zealous kayak]

Yeah right now it's fine for me on the api directly

[distant aurora]

You can afford that? 💀

[minor shard]

Was probably tied to an Azure outage

[pseudo ferry]

[distant aurora]

Tell me what Claude does well that O3 mini or o4 mini don't.

[zealous kayak]

o4 mini hallucinates to hell and back

o3 mini... is just eh

sonnet 3.7 performed better for most of my usecases

[distant aurora]

I see.

Is it better than Gemini 2.5 pro too?

[zealous kayak]

haven't tested it extensively

from what I hear they're both really good

[distant aurora]

Fair

[zealous kayak]

I lean towards sonnet 3.7 since it lets me disable the thinking

which gemini 2.5 can't

[distant aurora]

Maybe try it on a fresh project or something.

[distant aurora]

Can be a problem when in a rush.

[zealous kayak]

I also use it for general writing sometimes and thinking isn't always good in those cases

I just like the flexibility of a hybrid model

[valid charm]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[distant aurora]

Did you actually try this?

[valid charm]

Nahhh lol

[distant aurora]

👀

I was gonna copy paste it.

Does it put it in a loop or something?

[valid charm]

xD

It failed lol

[cloud solstice]

hi there, does anyone has invitation code for Manus AI? I'd love to test it. 🙏

[valid charm]

lol

[pale inlet]

That is impossible. It was stupid before too.

[minor shard]

I would disagree. But it all depends on what you use it for.

[tame current]

say SEO again mutha* (image of samuel l jackson pointing a gun)

[left stream]

Research is shit that’s why I use ARI

You can improve it by having it use o3, but I’m lazy to make an agent with o3

[distant aurora]

I tried making an agent.

It doesn't do as thorough search as research or compute.

[tame current]

just have elon hookup a brain computer interface from you to grok... ez...

[left stream]

Looks like I was right o3 is an option for agent

[green crystal]

Openai sent someone lmao

[left stream]

You got access to ari now?

[distant aurora]

Yay, I'll finally have an ai to help me with understanding people in real time.

[distant aurora]

No.

I made a custom agent.

Picked the best search option in source.

Model was o4 mini high I think.

[left stream]

O3 as the model right?

Ah ok

[distant aurora]

It literally does nothing.

Then I deleted it.

[left stream]

Making an agent such as ARI but having it use o3 as the model is giving me ideas now

I wonder how it would even be possible

[distant aurora]

I don't think you can make a custom agent on you.com that's actually useful.

Feel free to share a guide though if you have success with it.

[left stream]

Nope, I don’t see anything as remotely close to making ARI agent

Usually it would show you info on ARI and I remember making a research agent when I tried making one close to ari

But I forgot all that stuff

[distant aurora]

Leave Ari, you can't even make anything close to research or compute.

Custom agents don't support multi step from what I saw.

[left stream]

Yeah Ari dusts both research and compute easily, but a custom agent that can be in the same way as ari is higher level difficulty

I might use o3 to help me out

Why not

[distant aurora]

.

[left stream]

Damn

I think I got an idea now

It might make the agents useful even more

[distant aurora]

Not sure if that would help.

But you can try.

[left stream]

Yes, remember manish exists, so he’s gonna play a key role in this

[distant aurora]

I don't know who that is. But goodluck.

[left stream]

He’s the you.com staff dude or boss no clue what he is but helps me with you.com agents from time to time

[distant aurora]

Oh. Cool.

[atomic shell]

is there anyway with which i can get instant reply from support team?

[tame current]

So can someone tell me when would someone want to use a regular LLM instead of Perplexity AI?

[desert cedar]

Am I going crazy or did they change Claude 3.7

It’s responding differently than before

[tame current]

"Different"? Better or worse?

[desert cedar]

Worse

[atomic shell]

ask him is he gpt 40?

i mean 04

[desert cedar]

Nope it says it’s Claude

[tame current]

Reasoning or non-reasoning?

[left stream]

It’s pointless

You gotta ask it different prompts

If you ask an ai model if it is what it is, it’ll hallucinate and respond wrongly

I’ll verify once I’m home by testing the jailbreak prompt on claude 3.7

It worked on claude 3.7 and 3.5 like always, but I haven’t tried it out recently since I’ve been busy

[distant aurora]

Ask it about its system instructions.

[left stream]

Making a custom agent that releases a pdf like this is gonna be hard asf

[zealous kayak]

it's 4.1 atm
and 3.7 thinking is deepseek r1

why? no idea

[fluid wadi]

Hope it gets fixed soon

[rocky crow]

When using the research models. In this case it supposedly reading. I think it's been 5-10 minutes. How do I know if it reading or if the AI just got stuck?

[errant raft]

should be faster... honestly i'd just refresh

sometimes the results are there but for some reason they just don't show up

happens to me quite often

although if it's actually in the process of generating your response well it might remove it

i personally tell the difference from mashing the square symbol indicating writing/processing response

or heck just refresh

[wispy minnow]

Hello Community, im adding API to my filemaker database, in order to extract info from PDFS, y already have the script, nevertheless, the error i get from the json is that the model does not support Files

Do you have any idea?

{"error":{"message":"Unsupported message content type. Only text and image messages are supported.","type":"bad_request","code":400}}

JSONSetElement ( "{}" ;
[ "model" ; "sonar" ; JSONString ] ;
[ "messages" ; $MESSAGES ; JSONArray ]
)

[wraith ocean]

I’m getting different/worse responses from the Claude 3.7 Sonnet model now anyone else?

[echo crow]

try opening a new thread

[distant aurora]

Try this: Which android skin has best battery life per unit capacity. Refer to actual tests. I don't see any actual tests in your response. I want you to compare multiple smartphones across various price and hardware brackets across all android skins.

Take atleast 10 phones of each brand for comparison, prefer the newer ones. Add motorola and asus to this comparison too.

[distant aurora]

Yes, a lot of people have been complaining about it here.

[wraith ocean]

I haven’t tried that yet, I’ll give it a go in hopes it works

[distant aurora]

No asian 💔

[echo crow]

the context of the thread sometimes confuses model making them generate bad responses, starting a fresh thread helps fix this issue

[wraith ocean]

Sadly no luck. It doesn’t seem like it is using the Claude model at all anymore

It’s a shame since I’m less than a week into paying for the month too.

[ornate forge]

rockstar is cooking

https://tenor.com/view/omg-oh-my-god-crypto-eth-ethereum-gif-394692297718357453

[minor shard]

cooking how lol

[ornate forge]

minor changes in their website

[minor shard]

they will be cooking when they release another trailer

with a release date

[ornate forge]

its been days

😭

more than a year

[short narwhal]

surely the trailer will drop soon

[minor shard]

there are rumors its coming

we are gonna get gta 6 and then wait 20 years for gta 7

[tame current]

where is image sharing channel

[distant aurora]

@minor shard #1366405269952790528 message

Hilarious.

[minor shard]

#📷│media-gallery

[tame current]

thnx

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/nq1PDbK6f6U.gif

[minor shard]

don't make me do maths 😦

[echo crow]

try turning off web search result if not needed

[distant aurora]

So how's the day going?

[minor shard]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-itsfine-burning-flame-my-life-going-so-far-gif-5182223

[wispy minnow]

any one knows which models aceppt pdf for the perplexity api?

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/oFDUk7TP1Hi.gif

[uneven hare]

I successfully generated an image using WhatsApp integration, but I'm encountering difficulties on the Perplexity website. Where and how can I generate an image there? The same prompt works via WhatsApp, but not within the app itself. What could I be doing wrong?

[short narwhal]

Image generation is currently only on the web and windows desktop app

[uneven hare]

I'm trying in the web, is not working

[distant aurora]

What is it showing?

[minor shard]

Have you followed these instructions? #💬│general message

[coral kettle]

I think the devs are really playing dead now. Their strategy might be also secretly removing claude from the list of models one day and hoping people just forget about this fraud.

[zealous kayak]

honestly the fact that image generation is still this clunky to this day is

it sure is something

[distant aurora]

Also, check this #💬│general message

[uneven hare]

As you can see, in WhatsApp works excellent, but in the website, it doesn't.

[distant aurora]

You could try tapping the images tab too.

[uneven hare]

Yes. Is not working

[green crystal]

Is Gemini 2.5 nerfed?

[uneven hare]

#💬│general message

[distant aurora]

Also, no part of the prompt is actually asking it to create the image.

[tame current]

yeah same here

[green crystal]

The responses are so short and so quick it's like it's not even thinking anymore

[distant aurora]

People have been complaining about this today.

[uneven hare]

Gemini 2.5 is on fire now. It is better than ever

[distant aurora]

I'll try this rn.

[green crystal]

Deep research suddenly got nerfed again aswell

Was fine in the morning and now it's really short again

[uneven hare]

use this prompt: STICKER, A detailed illustration a print of vivid cute kitten head, fantasy flowers splash, vintage t-shirt design, in the style of Studio Ghibli, white and orange flora pastel tetradic colors, 3D vector art, cute and quirky, fantasy art, watercolor effect, bokeh, Adobe Illustrator, hand-drawn, digital painting, low-poly, soft lighting, bird's-eye view, isometric style, retro aesthetic, focused on the character, 4K resolution, photorealistic rendering, using Cinema 4D

[uneven hare]

Bruh. be serious. 😂

[green crystal]

So frustrating I used up another free DR prompt in Gemini and damn it's even more insane now
Not sure how much it's reading of what it finds but it processed 2700 sites and counting.....

Judging by how it actually works with what it finds I guess it somewhat uses a majority of it

Which is still an incredible amount of sources

Haven't tried openai DR yet so I'll give that a go aswell

[uneven hare]

I think it will work if I type the obvious, "Generate an image of a" at the begining of the real prompt.

Yep, it works with the obvious. Bummer

[distant aurora]

Bro just wanted unnecessary drama.

Lol.

[uneven hare]

LOL

[green crystal]

3800 sources now

I think something is going to break or it's writing a book

[distant aurora]

Huh? Where?

[distant aurora]

I'm serious. You are too stupid or lazy to add a simple "create a"

[green crystal]

Gemini dr
I gave it a prompt that has it look around for products and research each further

[uneven hare]

Did I earn the insult by being friendly with you? Interesting...

[distant aurora]

3800 sources? 💀

[green crystal]

Yeah

It's over 4000 now

The funny thing is that it's not repeating itself

[distant aurora]

Sorry bro, nothing personal.

[green crystal]

In any case I'm not gonna stop it

It's my free prompt

[green crystal]

Okay, now it's starting to really repeat itself

Yeah you know what. I'm just going to let it continue running. Maybe it'll DDOS a server accidentally

[distant aurora]

I feel like we should have option to converse with or interrupt it in the middle of deepsearch. To make it aware of where it's messing up.

[green crystal]

Before that happens, we need another deepseek moment

Western AI companies getting greedy again

[uneven hare]

I genuinely struggled to grasp the reaction. The moments for saying "create this" or "generate this" have long since passed. There's no need for that, even with OpenAI DALL-E—do you see what I mean? I didn't encounter any issues using it with WhatsApp, and it performed flawlessly, so I was simply sharing my experience.

[green crystal]

[distant aurora]

Yeah. Lemme share my experience.

I tell grok

Remove fonts

Twice

It does nothing.

I tell it don't use fonts the third time.

It somehow works.

[uneven hare]

I used Grok once, Is it any good?

[distant aurora]

Deepsearch is value for money.

Thinking is debatable cuz of rate limits.

[uneven hare]

really? hmm

[distant aurora]

30 thinking per 2 hours isn't satisfactory for me.

I mean it is but, it won't be if I'm doing something actually productive with it.

They should rather make it lump sum like open ai.

[naive sage]

Who does 30 thinking per 2 hours? Grok?

[distant aurora]

Yes.

[uneven hare]

I ended up paying Gemini 2.5 for that reason. I mean, Workspace, 4TB cloud, Gemini 2.5, AI Studio, and Firebase Pro for $22 dollars a month! can't find a better deal.

[distant aurora]

If you buy supergrok.

[naive sage]

Ah OK. I wonder if I think more than 30 times in 2 hours 🤔

[distant aurora]

It's pretty good outside stem.

To be specific, coding and deepsearch.

It struggles with inconsistencies when given complex engineering or math problems.

[uneven hare]

Which one Gemini or Grok?

[distant aurora]

Gemini

Grok is okay at stem.

Fyi grok 3 has 2 variants, thinking and normal.

Third parties only have the normal one.

Besides, you could just use Deepseek R1 for stem.

It's available for free on some websites.

Not O3 or o4 mini high pro level good but still pretty good.

[obsidian umbra]

qwen 3

bluethumbsup

[distant aurora]

I have to test it.

It's been only 2 days.

But yeah, qwen is another good free competitor for people who can't access Deepseek R1 for free.

I would switch to qwen if they added free deep search.

They're struggling with benchmarks but they have potential.

[obsidian umbra]

the perk of qwen is to host it locally no ?

[distant aurora]

30b? Yes.

Most people probably won't bother to buy hardware to run 235b locally.

Power consumption is another factor there.

Electricity ain't cheap.

Besides, productivity will take a hit if token speed is slow.

[naive sage]

Oy vey, not just the electricity, but a build for that would be almost 10k

[distant aurora]

Yeah. 💀

[green crystal]

That would be absolutely crazy

[pale inlet]

Yeah the claude 3.7 ones are not behaving as usual anymore

[pale inlet]

Anyone not seeing their threads and spaces lately?

[obsidian umbra]

does the activated parameters thing not help with that?

[distant aurora]

Thinking token control?

Oh. Wait. Nvm.

Moe

Idk. Depends.

[wraith ocean]

Thank you, but yea it’s been off 😦

[pseudo ferry]

[distant aurora]

Real

They underestimated ai back then.

[uneven flint]

Is there anyone from the Perplexity Enterprise Team that can help me?

[spiral python]

Remember guys when I told you that I suspect that they are using a lower quality model for o3-mini?

https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1kapek5/they_did_it_again_sonnet_thinking_is_now_r1_1776/

Apparently I was not the only one suspecting that some models are not really on point, this is basically fraud

[distant aurora]

I posted this here earlier today.

Lol.

[desert cedar]

Not basically. it is. Selling a product that is actually another product.

[spiral python]

Lawsuit about to be crazy

20$ a month to use deepseek in a gemini pro costume

[minor shard]

Everyone gotta relax. Claude had some issues earlier this morning. Possible it may still be going on.

Anthropic is still investigating/monitoring.

[distant aurora]

All those models are cheating on y'all with R1.

[spiral python]

It's not only claude though

and the responses are very similar to deepseek r1

[distant aurora]

They ain't loyal.

[spiral python]

https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1kapek5/comment/mpocyar/

Check the comment

[distant aurora]

#💬│general message

There there

They already have people complaining in #1140622008086970420

Please go rant there.

[spiral python]

Am I also the only one to notice that o4-mini is worse than o3-mini?

[distant aurora]

Atleast it might get some attention there.

[final grove]

Something they did messed up instructions too

Idk what they’ve been doing the past few days

[distant aurora]

No one's scrolling through general chat to address issues.

[pseudo ferry]

Billy turning into a vigilante during night

Interesting to watch

[spiral python]

Harvey is needed rn

[distant aurora]

Nah, it's just their noise is cancelling out each other.

Bugs channel gets more attention.

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-breaking-bad-saul-goodman-jimmy-mcgill-bob-odenkirk-gif-2092653457981477968

And y'all might think I'm downplaying it. I'm not.

I have my own rants with perplexity.

[pseudo ferry]

Mmmm and more with claude 3.7

[distant aurora]

And I have addressed the issue of inconsistencies among models in perplexity multiple times.

[pseudo ferry]

[copper birch]

I just had the weirdest interaction on Perplexity whatsapp

i sent it a sticker about an hour ago and after 1hour it responds for some reason lol

[pseudo ferry]

Listening

[lament turtle]

The issue is that they have to be transparent with the user. If there's an api issue and you have to fall back to another model you HAVE to tell the user. You can't pretend a different model generated the prompt

[copper birch]

lol wha

[pseudo ferry]

Haha lol

[copper birch]

im noticing a couple of characters in this server

William Butcher
Harvey Specter
Homelander

[minor shard]

Lol

I can assure you at this point the team has seen everyone's complaints about the models lol. Its been non-stop all day.

[lament turtle]

All it would take is one comment to confirm they see it and are working on it

[pseudo ferry]

General chat = Complaint chat 🤔

Interesting

[naive sage]

It's been a long time without any egg drops. 😦

[distant aurora]

@naive sage what did you say?

[obsidian umbra]

LOL

[green crystal]

Because there is allot to complain about

[final grove]

True that, in the last few days, several things have just completely kinda broken

[pseudo ferry]

True

[final grove]

It’s being so random, my instruct just basically has broken, first it was Gemini 2.5 pro, now grok too

[pseudo ferry]

Billy is there any update on #2 reward

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/ja4AqRQlMeQ.gif

[distant aurora]

Yes. I got the code.

[pseudo ferry]

Wow 🔥

Congrats billy

[distant aurora]

Thanks.

[pseudo ferry]

Ask for a PS5 and I'll be your lawyer

[distant aurora]

Ask PS5 for denny

He was first.

[pseudo ferry]

3 months right?

[distant aurora]

Yes

[distant aurora]

You are my egg now.

[tender quiver]

[distant aurora]

Lemme put you in an armour.

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/bAVUV.gif

[tender quiver]

I think I need a smoothie
I wonder if I have frozen fruits and yogurt at home tho

[distant aurora]

Lovely

I'm sitting beside my sleeping mother.

Cuz she had a nightmare she won't talk about. And asked me to be with her for the night.

[tender quiver]

that's sweet of you to stay by her even after she fell asleep

[distant aurora]

She asked me to sleep beside her or do my thing.

[wooden helm]

Adult film plot

[distant aurora]

Bro. Don't.

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-karl-urban-billy-butcher-just-quit-thats-what-im-saying-gif-22641915

Anyways I hate her.

[wooden helm]

Sorry, couslnt help it 😭

[zealous kayak]

yeah but people are (understandably) annoyed that there's been zero communication

not even anything on the status page

[distant aurora]

I can relate 😭 🤝

[zealous kayak]

plus A\'s API woes have been resolved for several hours already

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/ja4AqRQlMeQ.gif

Communication part. 💯

[wooden helm]

Perplexity is just redundant tbh

[distant aurora]

Y'all might as well rant on twitter tbh.

Everyone would be there to see.

[pseudo ferry]

Hahaha

[wooden helm]

Whats a twitter

Sounds like a birdie

[pseudo ferry]

I guess X

[wooden helm]

Bombardiro crocodilo

[pseudo ferry]

@tame current

[tame current]

https://tenor.com/view/im-here-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-super-hero-gif-17866585

[distant aurora]

I saw this on twitter today. Some translation horror meme.

[distant aurora]

Cool choice for gif.

[pseudo ferry]

Homelander being Homelander

[pale inlet]

@glossy hound Can I dm you? Needed to know about the spaces issue.

[distant aurora]

Look what I have for you.

[wooden helm]

Whats the season where homelander kills someone in public in the end

I need to continue

[distant aurora]

3 I think.

[wooden helm]

How many seasons now

[distant aurora]

Cuz someone hits his son.

[distant aurora]

4

[wooden helm]

Oh only 1 more

[distant aurora]

5 is on the way.

[pseudo ferry]

@tame current billy is trying to be sweet. Take a look

[tame current]

ofc he will try

[distant aurora]

#📷│media-gallery message

[tame current]

coz

[pseudo ferry]

Coz he got your blessings what the ....

😂

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/cc8LCrEs77C.gif

Edgar be like - idgaf if you kill me, you will live in the shame of not being able to scare me.

Underrated actor.

[pseudo ferry]

Guss?

Did you watch demon slayer?

[wooden helm]

Is season 4 bad?

Redditors say so

[distant aurora]

Lot of plot twists.

[wooden helm]

Worth a month of prime video?

[distant aurora]

Bro

Jack sparrow it.

https://tenor.com/view/jacksparrow-sinking-gif-19769322

[wooden helm]

True just takws effort

Cause i wanna watch on apple tv

[distant aurora]

@tame current here's a cool one https://tenor.com/bW13l.gif

[pseudo ferry]

@wooden helm Skip Homelander scenes and continue watching

😂

[distant aurora]

No. Watch homelander scenes.

Alone.

[wooden helm]

Why

[tame current]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-homelander-the-boys-i-appreciate-it-sarcastic-thanks-gif-3111295576352714696

[wooden helm]

Is he any more disgusting than usual

[distant aurora]

There's a big of digging into his childhood.

[wooden helm]

Boring?

[distant aurora]

So he kills the people who experiment on him in childhood.

In brutal ways.

[wooden helm]

Oh

Yeah not gonna bother me

I can tolerate gore

[pseudo ferry]

@tame current Secretly enjoying the chat? 😂

[distant aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIGf-kK-g2I&t=0

At your own risk.

[wooden helm]

Ill watch the show

So not watching the video

[minor shard]

This channel has become a The Boys fanboy channel lol

[distant aurora]

We could make it r/perplexity with all the ranting.

[pseudo ferry]

Hahaha

[distant aurora]

Besides, chat is dead.

[pseudo ferry]

Yeah

[minor shard]

Just an update on the reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/perplexity_ai/comments/1kapek5/comment/mpq06dt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[distant aurora]

Verbal gymnastics.

Though the demand is valid.

They should notify users when switching the model.

Also add a clear indicator for which model was used in the responses.

They removed it I think? Idk why.

[zealous kayak]

@fossil girder there's your proof lmao

[zealous kayak]

it's still there
it just doesn't indicate when you get re-routed

I think the transparency is definitely the biggest issue with this

the model indicator should reflect what model actually generated the answer, including fallbacks

[distant aurora]

https://tenor.com/bUWtZ.gif

[distant aurora]

But you have to tap the chip icon for it afaik.

[zealous kayak]

yeah

[distant aurora]

Stop using Claude ppl.