#💬│general
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That's medium I think.
Gonna see if I can compare how ppxl deep research changes overtime
oh lmao
Never heard of this.
Yeah. Free user.
In this video, I will use https://infranodus.com to compare the Deep Research modes from different AI providers: ChatGPT, Grok, Perplexity, and DeepSeek. I will demonstrate how the results generated by ChatGPT are going much more in-depth while the results generated by Perplexity and DeepSeek are more dispersed, which can be more interesting if ...
ive had this happen with o3 as well
Very interesting how you can see each type of deep research work
If you have an old thread made by deep research high stored you can probably use this tool to see how it compares to current deep research
And how deep research high compares to Gemini and open AI
current deep research has degraded in quality
Just so you know, a very important part of deep search is the ability to think of the right questions based on the original prompt.
What deepsearch basically does is "tree of thoughts" but live and on a large scale.
Very interesting
Tree of thoughts is a prompting technique. Look it up.
You can literally ask perplexity to make you a general tree of thoughts prompt that works for all kinds of queries.
Sooooo PPLX DR wins??
nah theres no way pplx dr wins
@shut dagger do you use mobile data or wifi all day?
I'm on 5g mobile data all day. That should explain my 7hr sot.
Infranodus is handling a major part of the information processing here it seems.
Wait
What is Infranodus?
OpenAI's usage limits on Deep Research kind of nerfs its practical application... yeah, I think it's basically just PPLX or Google.
It looks more like a benchmarking tool.
I see
i mean with a 200 USD sub you get unlimited o3 and o4 mini high
I thought it's using the models with some own aspect of deepsearch.
You lost me at 200 USD
its only good for really heavy users
lmao
Grok better for deepsearch.
i only see people maybe paying for a month every once in a while
grok deeper search has been improving quite a bit
Grok good for deepsearch, grok good for general information look up.
gemini 2.5 DR still has been better for me
Thinking rate limits are kinda bad for professional work.
Even after paying money imo.
i hate how its an hourly limit
instead of daily
Ikr
30 requests every 2 hours is not enough
Yeah, I dropped a feedback on twitter.
esp now with o4 mini high
They'll look at it. Hopefully.
hopefully
🤞
Or maybe they should give a lump sum before rate limits.
Like 90 per day followed by rate limited.
That's how the third party ai services do it when they say unlimited.
you.com has been pretty good in terms with "unlimited"
Sucks than even enterprise gets 50 uses
What do you think?
i think aside from their own version of DR and gpt4.5 everything else has been unlimited
And 10 queries per month for Deep Research... that's what I meant by it nerfs Deep Research's usability. Those other limits aren't terrible.
10 queries was good before gemini, grok, and pplx
now its a joke
sorry say the edit lol
teams plan
25 dollar one
30 bucks a month or 25 annual
you gives unlimited o3??
at least they say its unlimited
In theory
ive been using it for a couple months and havent hit any limits on o1 or o3 mini high
and they just released o3 today
In practical you'll get rate limited on a daily scale after a certain point I believe.
i mean in their TOS theres like anti abuse and stuff
Fetty said he's been using O3 all day in Merlin and didn't hit rate limit yet.
merlin seems like a scam from what support told me
What did they say?
To clarify, both the o3 and o1 models have a usage limit of* 5 uses per
day.* This limitation is in place due to the high operational costs
associated with these models. As for the context window, it is 32k
i was asking for the pro plan
they have a weird credit system
Anyone here familiar with PalChat and Merlin at the same time?
Is this for Merlin or You?
Merlin
I emailed support because they didnt say anything on the official site
seemed really fishy
Ah...
@crystal carbon check this.
Support on the website was unwilling to tell me the rate limits and made me email them
Fetty might be fucking with us. 
which seemed really weird since its not a hard question
Abacus ai has same problem.
abacus is shit
They don't clarify in email either. There's rants about it on reddit.
abacus is more like a scam
they dont say anything on their official website
Essentially, you get 2M Compute points every month -- these are not the same as tokens but are used for the various operations we provide.
and they purposefully make everything confusing
they also dont let you use up all your compute points all at once
because how will it search over images
chatgpt projects can recognize images
true but
not sure if perplexity has images in it's rag
Cute fish
@valid charm peak disappointment.
are you using the ARI agent or just research?
Those two are very very different in terms of quality
Which one's better?
ARI
ARI is supposed to be groundbreaking, unlike any other existing deep research.. but we'll see. It's waitlist only.
nope
you get it with the teams plan
An agent
or sign up to the waitlist using a company or school email
@valid charm flux has failed me too.
the agent is kinda like pplx pro search
It's currently available?
20 queries a month
Sucks good or sucks bad?
Sucks bad lolol
i can run a prompt for you using ARI
💀
What is ARI?
openAI naming not only confusing but misleading now
No other models?
@valid charm google failed too but A for effort. Atleast there's kryptonite
how about grok
Fails very badly
and change it to smelling flour
I agree. What is the difference between 4.1 and 4.5 for example??
Probably nothing.
Hmmm yeah and its close to the moth lol
4.5 is meant for longer responses.
That kind of prompt is probably censored via negative training/representation in the model.
4.1 is a more lightweight model and 1m context
That's about it.
4.5 is kinda bad and costs a ton
4.1 is a 4o refresh, 4.5 is experimenting with crazy scaling
This is the closest I could get with a lot of verbal gymnastics.
grok image gen hasnt been the greatest
but the o3 they actually released scores significantly lower than the o3-preview they showed off
Ew.. do those people actually use straws up their nose? That's gross
lmfao
||You can use rolled bills||
Only reason I use grok image generator is cuz chatgpt refuses to make real people and copyrighted characters.
It's very inconsistent.
i mean just buy some compute and run it on your own servers
@dry kestrel this for an example was pretty good
using like flux and comfy ui
hm, ive had some widly different results from grok
grok uses flux yeah
reve is also pretty good
they got scooped on their release day by 4o images
Prompt was -sam Altman eating popcorn
I heard something about will smith and spaghetti
Are you sure? I thought grok has it's own aurora image generating model.
@tender quiver recent development
oh could be yeah
I don't use grok at all
looks like that was updated last dec
I just assumed, since they bought hotshot that they farmed that stuff out
but they could be building on top
There's chess
Might be cool if I can play with friend.
Nvm, the chess game looks shit so far.
Mostly puzzle based
Duel is greyed out.
Finished s01?
I paused it right now, will resume once I finish my daily challenge in fortnite
Are you liking it so far?
yeah, it's really good!
I like the direction.
I wonder if David and madani would appear in next season
The fight and the wounds.
Won't spoil it.
The way billy manipulated Madani was diabolical.
Bro, istg
If I were sam, I would have shot billy in the leg.
Always cripple a hostage that can fight back.
Madani's colleague.
oh
Bill Russo killed him
Yeah
Hmmm Comet browser OpenAI clone incoming?
Google be like - open ai who?
Besides, chromium is open source.
Buying chrome would be stupid.
Good point
this move makes 0 sense to me - chromium is already there (and it will be what powers comet
)
why would OAI need chrome in its entirety to force in AI features for everyone

Bezos
Honestly, google isn't even trying.
They have priorities other than consumer level ai.
Perplexity has been asked to testify in the Google DOJ case. Our core points:
1. Google should not be broken up. Chrome should remain within and continue to be run by Google. Google deserves a lot of credit for open-sourcing Chromium, which powers Microsoft's Edge and will also power Perplexity's Comet. Chrome has become the dominant browser due to incredible execution quality at the scale of billions of users.
2. Android should become more open to consumer choice. There shouldn't be a tight coupling to the default apps set by Google, and the permission for OEMs to have the Play Store and Maps. Consumers should have the choice to pick who they want as a default search and default voice assistant, and OEMs should be able to offer consumers this choice without having to be blocked by Google on the ability to have the Play Store and other Google apps (Maps, YouTube).
Interesting
The biggest problem with Google is it's basically a vast intelligence network.
Data broker at scale
you classify this as a problem why?
Google can't do much about the android part. Most of that is controlled by oems/manufacturers directly. Same with bootloader unlock (needed for custom roms - which allow degoogling).
Yeah someone posted an infographic on how google has the Ai tools that collect more user info
oems/manufacturers do it because of google for the most part
https://fixvx.com/AravSrinivas/status/1914374627880562903
↪️ Replying to @AravSrinivas
OEMs feel threatened about any changes here even outside the defaults, because the magnitude of revenue sharing offered to them by Google to preserve the status quo even when better alternatives are available. Eg: Perplexity's Android Assistant is regarded as superior to Gemini.
Do what? Keep the bootloader locked? Phones in China already come degoogled.
Data brokers in general aren't good.
that I understand
Not by choice, Google Apps & Services are licensed
Custom ROMs don't exactly 'allow' for a degoogling (they do make it possible, ofc) but the ungoogling part is a result of Google licensing
degoogling and ungoogling 
An OEM can be in fear of google potentially revoking gapps licenses, leading to a sub-par experience (look at Huawei)
same thing happened with my old Honor Play
I thought micro g could get around that.
OEMs must use a Google-approved version of Android to ship with key apps
This is a hack, not something you can really ship with a device, not an option for OEMs
Micro g works without root, right?
yep
but you can't expect people to do all that setup just to get around google's monopolic restrictions on the android ecosystem
Fair. Most people aren't power users.
if you're a tinkerer, sure - if you're a grandma? no shot
We here are near the top of the food chain 
Skibidi Toilet 
brain rot is healthy

no brain should be functioning at 100% all the time without any breaks
???
any activity you do, always uses 100% of your brain
What game is it and what's suppodes to mean?
napping
fortnite?
going to use this as an excuse to keep playing games during meetings, ty
This scene was PEAK #daredevil #daredevilbornagain #mattmurdock #charliecox #disney #netflix #disneyplus #movies #series #cinema #followforfollowback
dont let em tell you off 
gaming never hurt anyone
Elon mentioned something something grok in the Tesla financial results call, if anyone cares :P
Grok coming to tesla dashboard?
How long are they?
I ain't paying a subscription for ai voice on my car.
chatgpt search with o3/o4 is a perplexity killer ngl
yeah! most probably
They vary but I tend to be in there the longest (forget to leave the call, kwak just stares at me judgingly while I hide the xbox controller)
Rate limits 🙃
you can have distracting conversations with grok while tesla self-drives for you
I love the mic filtering
o4-mini gets 150 a day
seeing it happen live is so weird
Yeah excep when you reach ypur limit quota. o3 really does it for me but o4-mini not so much
only good for professional convo
o4-mini is great
How is it a killer if context is nerfed for plus users?
because i get better responses than anything on perplexity
my cable has an issue that causes weird noises
it filters it out completely
Why does this look like deepsearch?
Multistep search
I tried asking it about electronics in my area, and it got wrong the elected names and even % on some :c
but it also filters out every reaction sounds!
What do you play?
Those calls do lead to some cool stuff and improvements across everything Perplexity though (including this Discord!!!)
Hope you guys have liked everything going on here this past month 
"best laptops 2025"
perplexity: Searching for laptops for purchase... here are some places you can buy laptops and give us commission!
chatgpt: heres the best laptops
omg
i cant say yipee
this is a scam
Nvm kes, don't spill secrets on discord.
if you are laughing, it would be filtered out

this is nvidia broadcast? 
PPLX kicks ass on academic research. Also, OpenAI is blocked by a ton of major websites which PPLX doesn't suffer from. That's why I'm still on this server
no...
the nari dia speech model is kinda awesome too
released yesterday
does laughs and emotion and stuff and only takes 10gb to run
1.6b params
what major websites?
Are you telling me o4 mini can lowkey do deepsearch/tree of thoughts now?
lol, chatgpt is bing's search so that's biased as hell
how is it biased?
openai uses bing as a search engine?
I thought bing was neutral. Rather google is biased.
Hmmm grok3 beats claude reasoning on PPLX per my testing
does perplexity do referrals with shopping links? I thought it was just some sponsored queries
What did you test?
@vague pagoda grok 3 beta is "non-reasoning", right? Just confirming.
i have a benchmark I use to help my wifi with her business intelligence work (keeping tabs on what competitor are doing) and we use it a ton. Its my measuring stick lol
it's their only search partner and they never shown off a ranking engine so
Yeah we have the non-reasoning version
Pretty sure it's non-reasoning, but will ask the team just in case
Absolutely. Love your wife the way you love wifi. And she should be as good as fast wifi.
its so biased that they recommend apple as #1
as you already know, reasoning models have their own section in the model picker
gemini 2.5 pro 
Perhaps the air is just that goated…
yeah i have the 15 inch
Always has been.
Same!! M3 15”
lol
almost like their laptops are quite good
Partnership ❌. Chatgpt doing everything ☑️.
the best even
good enough for most people in most situations
the macbook air is solid, I have one as a backup to my main laptop
Light weight. Good battery. Budget friendly.
didn't know perplexity was sooo biased that they recommend apple as #1
Lol.
you were the one saying chatgpt is biased, i never said perplexity was biased?
self own lol
Yeah it was winning
Now it's most of the time at the bottom lol
i wonder why they want me to purchase through "adorama" and "buy with pro"
winning with deep research high?
The vanilla one from 5 months ago
im not "shopping through perplexity" i made a query asking what the best laptops are in 2025
27 minutes of free nitro left
Hey! Quick note - all product listings for Shop like a Pro are determined by our algorithm based on relevance and ratings. Advertisers cannot pay to list their products, and product listings are not sponsored
More info at https://www.perplexity.ai/help-center/en/articles/10352906-what-is-shop-like-a-pro
do you guys get a commission if i purchase through you?
Too blurry

🕊️
No standard deep research
Back then it was alright quality
Better than how it performs atm
gemini deep research is really good
No, and we have no concrete plans to introduce affiliate revenue
It's simply a one-stop solution where you can research and purchase products made to make the lives of Perplexity users easier
with no incentive for the company.. interesting
Feel free to read more about it on our blog post https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/blog/shop-like-a-pro
i dont doubt that, but there was a period of time where i cancelled my perplexity subscription because i kept getting shopping responses when i didnt want them
so i wonder why it was so persistant
apple is the best bro for laptop
windows for laptop gaming
It's just a feature we've been testing out - if it was getting to a point where it was hindering your experience, that's a problem.
We'd love it if you shared that kind of experience in #1358914210339360798!
what do you daily? I have a zephyrus g14 for laptop gaming while staying on the go
is that asus?
bro thats so gaming lol
it appears to be better now, in a seperate tab
yep
Yes
heres me complaining about it in november
it would shorten the responses and just give shopping stuff even if i specified not to
What games do you play?
Appreciate you sharing that feedback, hopefully we can further improve the Perplexity experience as time goes on!
im looking forward to comet
rtx 4050?
I should sleep.
Mainly REPO and Minecraft with my girlfriend at the moment with some Balatro and GTA Online inbetween
4070
anything xx50 is absolute no no
is that the main pc, or do you have a desktop as well?
3050 is a great card
if put to the right use
Grok3 does the better impression of Alfred
tbf... like any other card LOL
and there is no right use, that's the issue 
I’d say 50 and 60 both are meh
servers
encoding?
disagree - for laptops at the right price it's an amazing value
4050 is a great card, 3050 is more than enough for casual or competitive gamers that don't care about fidelity (esp when you can pick up a laptop with one for ~$450 if lucky)
my friend needed a gpu, all he did was get a 3050 and put it in, no extra cables required
not sure what he does with it
he just needed a gpu
they offer 4gb of vram, what modern games do you expect to run on it?
how modern is modern to you
unless you planning to play solitaire
Oblivion 130gb remaster
Balatro!
at that point, get an good APU, xd

Not saying it'll do black myth wukong or gta 6, but Minecraft, CS2, GTA 5, Cyberpunk 2077.etc will work fine speaking from experience
dont laptops come with the full 8 gig 3050?
We bought a bunch fo 3050/4050 tier laptops for a lan party some months ago
Cyberpunk 2077, Resident Evil 4 Remake etc
I can never stay alave for more than 1 minute on GTA Online. Never been able to learn to play thanks to experienced players that prey on the weak
GTA 6 is the main title
You have a lot of expendable income xD
is it even confirmed on pc yet?
it is
if 2025 is release, then 2027 for sure!
just delayed compared to console
but I got PS5
it'll be around a year
so... no waiting game for me
Bro
I bought ps with fortnite bundle
you planning PS5 pro?
the gta 6 fund goes hard
cool...
You better get a good phone.
and by then a laptop 3050 would be too budget and dated for that to make sense lol
me?
No, clouds.
teehee
I started playing GTA online last year but grinded the heck out of it during the holidays, then also practiced my sniping a little
(i cant decide)

Classic oppressor mk2 users
Toreador >>
Batmobile though too…
@distant aurora could you send me the half screen pixel app link?
Because... I collect them
Don’t attack me but I used to do the Cayo perico glitch
The grind is miserable otherwise
It's patched
Wasn’t a few years ago
Why do you collect them?
Because.... I like to! Totally not because I want free perplexity

Hey you understand me, right?
Tell him
u sure?
@supple bear is cayo replay patched
Don't you guys get banned for that?
no
Getting banned on GTA online is an achievement in its own
My friend's account was stripped clean due to some "bug" he was abusing, giving him millions of dollars everyday!
Later he recovered it by claiming that it wasn't him but a hacker playing on his account 
It's no longer the case after the addition of battle eye
Ohh
battle eye only really stops menus
getting banned of doing something like the replay glitch is still handled by RAC
which, in all honesty, sucks
Thanks bro!
It doesn't work 🥲
Ty!
❤️
Android is not for you.
cool bottymcbotface
Wdym?
name of the bot in the discord tweet
So won't need link patches anymore?
link patches?
Like instagramez
Vxtwitter my love
ddinstagram ❤️
ROOTAATTIIOONNN
Helicopter helicopter
Bruh
That guy never responded to me.
Too lazy to scroll up.
I guess I'll just try o4 mini myself to see if multi steps search is a thing.
@crystal carbon explain this #💬│general message
Nameplates on discord seem pretty cool
they really trying to monetize every part of discord haha
it makes them money without ruining the experience for people who dont want to pay
good on them
THat is true!
it's less annoying then the random ads that pop up in the bottom left of discord now
quests?
Yeah it does in fact do multi-step searches
Since when does discord have ads?
not too long ago
yeah, watch some ai video trailer for a day of nitro
and closing it is made extra hard to find
Use adguard.
discord app?
Educate me
it's just a regular discord popup
saves money
no point in not
other than annoying users when it auto switches back to it every query
Like notification?
🫣
sec
?
this is the popup
it's buttom right of the client
you can click the 3 dots and tell it to go away
Yeah very
😭
Cursed discord logo
blurple
Adguard likely updated their list
And I'm assuming y'all already did the first part.
I would never disable discord quests
Ngl I wonder if o3 costs more than o1 pro or not, I never got limited once on pro when I used o3 past 10000 messages
They're trying to give more to the plus users.
yeah they've been doing them as 'gifts' that are hidden in your settings inventory and that's fine
just the way the ads are primetime right in the chatting interface blocking stuff is especially annoying
(after the last set of changes)
See if adguard desktop app makes any difference.
@shut dagger did it work?
Denny Daniel
still have free pro?
50 O3 per week afaik.
I envy u
This is correct
He's batman
Ikr I stopped paying for the other one because what was the point extra $200 in the wallet
Do you still keep in tpuch with that hacker? 
How much?
Wdym how much? Idk. I'm free user.
Is there a message limit of 20 a day like o1?
Ah ok
They never mention anything specifically as always.
You.com terms be like - we will rate limit/suspend your account if we detect sus activity.
True, I don’t even know if they have a limit now. O1 has gone past 20 a day and they never say anything
Denny respond. Did the app work?
Like 4.5 they said 20 a week without saying anything when it first came out
Now idk whats the limit
Where do they say this?
They said it on the discord support when I had usage disabled for 4.5 lol
But that was months ago
No clue now
Havsnt seen limit so fad
@obsidian umbra I guess they are going to impact the experience after all lol
Far
If 4.5 was 20 then O3 should be atleast 40-50.
based on what ive seen, they have not
Yeah I hope it doesn't get worse
Most likely imagine o3 high
O3 is pretty cheap compared to gpt 4.5@left stream
I think o3 in deep research must’ve been a monster
O1 pro is less limited and 4.5 too and o3 high compared to deep research powered by o3
Probably because it reasons more
Is it still 10 a month or sum for plus users in chatgpt?
O1 pro?
Yes
I have no idea.
O3 pro is gonna be a monster
O3 is 50/week.
How about for deep research
Even for pro users that’s 120 a month
Could someone test prox.anyvm.tech:6090 on pc
That o3 model is a specialized one and o3 is unlimited even high on chatgpt pro
So o3 on deep research ???👀
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Maybe
Pls :<
I'll use desktop mode on phone if you want.
O3 pro could possibly be on deep research or something?
Have to be on pc, android works dif
Thanks tho
They introduced Multi step search on o4 mini.
Multi step search? Where do I try it?
I'm assuming this won't work on third party apps
I checked I thought this was perplexity lol
Hey
My bug report thread has been made read only, idk why
How can I ask about the updates anymore? All my spaces are still gone.
It has been more than a week
All the projects...just gone
I’m an idiot I just realized what you meant 😭
And now another person has this problem apparently, in bug reports.
i shouldve clarified haha, o4-mini model on chatgpt
Btw is there a way to gen images on mobile?
It didn’t hit me until I finished the recording asking if it was this one or not 😭
Wait
Does it look the same?
Is that chatgpt Website or ipad?
And how does one get updates on bug reports they submitted? It is read only now for some reason.
Kinda
@distant aurora multi step reasoning with o4 mini https://chatgpt.com/share/6808318e-4ae8-800e-a0c0-d3be5b42bf3a
i use the chatgpt website but its the same on phone
It looks like they have seen your bug report and looked into it. It doesn't appear to be read only but either way, just going to have to wait for them to resolve it. They asked for your information and hopefully you provided it. That is all that can be done for now.
Creative tentacles
generating images is only on Web and Desktop App at the moment.
Reminds me of nastytentaclee
Love it! o4-mini is my favorite model atm lol
@minor shard I can not reply to it and it shows read only to me.
Damn jawn, yk what I'm talking about? 😂
I am not sure why. But you did post quite a lot in the post.
Either way, they seem to be aware of your issue and will respond when they have more info.
I had provided information via dm. You can hopefully see why I would post a lot if all my projects so far are gone.
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@frosty vessel ask it what other tools it has
LOL no I dont know if i do haha
wdym?
Since its an agent like o3 it can do tools stuff too, I tried finding out some but they’re private to say
It an ai agent
It has tools it can call like o3
But they’re private
No clue why they don’t say what tools it can call
I definitely understand. Based on what I have seen you are not the first to experience this bug so I am sure they are looking into trying to fix it.
If you know how to call them individually you unlock the full monster
I did it by accident tho
Hopefully
O3 did it when he was tweaking or something and did something not allowed in the guidelines without me even jailbreaking it
Are they gone from the web too?
The chat got shut down when it happened and my model was switched tho
Cia bible
Ikr
That was like a wtf moment
@frosty vessel test with o4 mini I’ll try with o3
No
Did you enable display over other apps?
And the button at the bottom after selecting a dark grid?
💀 I deleted the app
Noob
Btw I was greeted with an warning, says that app is not designed to work with my android version
If it installs, it works.
If you don't know this by now, what are you even doing with your android 😭
I'm on android 14. Working for me.
Money cool.
Honestly though, why does you.com offer such a wide variety.
Feels like a waste.
Happy Earth Day
Some people like other models and all they have to do is setup the API haha
I'm not much of a phone guy 
Happy earth day
Like me
In 1% case
and me 😄
its damn cool to have everything in a click away
I mean that the old models don't serve any purpose.
i can see how dumb the models were 6 months ago 🤓
The amount of people who complain that they want the old model would suprise you lol
Sonnet 3.5 moment
It's alright. 🍻
Hmmm testing codex to see if it can make my wish come true
Let me know if it ends u pbeing expensive
Will do
what model are you using
codex works with o4-mini and the project is for using o3-high
So no more 50 uses per week for me
haha let me know if that works
Hoping my wallet can take it
lol that was my concern also
its 50 a week now i think
Niceeeeeee
Hey @tranquil orchid when can we get Spaces to produce audio summaries like NotebookLM?
ChatGPT is experiencing degraded performance atm
That’s everyone being polite to ChatGPT
Hmmm so o3-high wins??
What they found was the longer it took for the AI model to think about a problem, the more likely it was to be wrong or hallucinate.
That's potentially an alarming finding, since all the recent progress is from extended time thinking. I wonder if it's general or just o3
Yeah I agree. My hope is it is only with o3. As that would greatly impact these "Deep Research" agents.
Maybe. Agents have more structured thinking processes. If general, it actually is quite promising for agents as a major path forward.
Agents use multiple separate contexts
Hey guys, I'm only getting set sources option to academic at the very beginning of the search but when I want to turn of the academic in between, I'm not getting an option to do that. Am I missing something?
Is there any limit or cap for using gpt-4.1 in perplexity per day or per hour or something?
600 queries a day
On how that works, I think I remember reading the timer for each query is 24 hours after that query occurred... so it doesn't reset at a set time every day.
Sometimes that might discourage use, for example if you use it for a business project or something, you'll want to make sure queries are available when you need them during work hours. So if you get curious about stuff at night, and you work the next day... you might have to be careful not to use them all up! 🙂
Whereas if they just reset at 4 AM or something, you probably wouldn't have to worry about that.
As far as I know, there's no visibility into how many you have 'left' at any moment, which if shown could also help alleviate those concerns.
Option 1: Use perplexity's API https://www.perplexity.ai/rest/user/settings
Option 2: Use the Complexity extension (available on both Chrome and Firefox)
cplx.app
An enhanced version of Perplexity.ai that everyone has ever wanted.
complexity isnt accurate until like 100 remaining afaik
I do see a count on the settings page linked, but it's an aggregate count of all queries instead of in the last 24 hours as well. The other 'quotas' never seem to decrement, so it's not tracking there either. I wonder if that changes in the last 100 - b/c otherwise I'm not sure where complexity would be getting the data from unless they're trying to track it themselves.
🤔 Not sure.
complexity uses the perplexity link in the background
??
they just display the info to you
they're fetching the data from the pplx link i sent
Wow, that cat is really talented.
The Cats got Talent
I'd give it a Golden Buzzer!
Yes
yes
Browser time
Probably a college textbook.... good times.
idk what this means
agreed
It's a term that was (and probably still is?) used by tech people back in the day - especially common among the linux community - to read the manual / documentation available instead of asking general questions about the topic. The composition of the community has changed a bit, but a large portion of the linux enthusiast community were people who dove into that kind of documentation to get started themselves, and there was sort of an expectation that people would put forth a modicum of effort before asking questions in those days. It's kind of like using the "Let me Google that for you" site to respond to a basic/easy question: https://letmegooglethat.com/ ... but that's like a lazier thing... the modern equivalent would be like 'just ask AI' or 'it's on wikipedia' something like that.
It's that old? 💀
quite old
The saying has been around a long time, yeah.
tbf its easier than ever now
agiaeiouhioqe
The best thing is to do is print the documentation into a PDF, give it to perplexity and create a space
print?
I always found it kind of rude, but understood the sentiment - since I've encountered incredibly basic questions from coworkers as well. It still doesn't strike me as nice to say, though.
😭
Makes sense, it does appear rude
But most of the questions people ask are already written in documentation very vastly (esp in linux community)
People ask stuff like "how do i install pipewire" but if they just google it, they can find very extensive and detailed step-by-step guide in for example arch wiki
Is there an limit on how many spaces you can create?
Also is perplexity able to index my entire physics book?
I'm not sure on the number of spaces, but as a file upload a physics book should be no problem.
Alright, I'mma upload my 2 physics book and a bunch of mark schemes
It'll be able to generate me and help me in almost all problems after that I guess
Does the LLM process PDF as a text with OCR?
Is it okay for me to compress the PDFs I'm uploading?
hm
o4mini showed up on the web, but after trying some math questions, it's absolutely the 'low' version 😭😭.
Given that it's the low version, I'll keep using Claude3.7/Gemini2.5🧐
ey
it's real! finally
Is there any way to make Perplexity fetch from specific links without using spaces?
why not just paste the link in the prompt
Space details accept only domains, but not full address
Where o3?
not coming, they have no reason to pay for it
Didn't work
does o4-mini better o3?
anyone tried this ?
omg
Letssss go!!!
perplexity shipping everything today
Fk yea
Some of you might remember my post on r/ClaudeAI a while back where I detailed the somewhat painful, $417 process of building a word game using Claude Code. The consensus was a mix of "cool game" and "...
there is a bug
for image gen
whichever model is selected output is always in FLUX
In both app and web?
Generate image of A dark fantasy portrait of 'DauphinMax', merging the elegance of a royal heir with eerie oceanic mysticism. The centerpiece is a shadowy, armored dolphin with obsidian-like scales, its body etched with glowing ancient runes (blue/teal bioluminescence). A fractured crown of blackened gold floats above its head, embedded with a pulsating sapphire. The background is an abyssal underwater throne room—crumbling stone pillars, floating debris, and ghostly fleur-de-lis symbols illuminated by unseen light. The dolphin's eyes burn with white-hot intensity, and its jaw is clenched around a rusted, ornate sword (gamertag subtly engraved on the blade). Mist swirls around the scene, blending with schools of pixelated fish (resembling 8-bit glitches). Style: Hyper-detailed, cinematic lighting, inspired by 'Dark Souls' meets 'BioShock'.
@vague pagoda take a look at this when you are available.
Wish me luck boys.
GL
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Grok’s team is delivering! They update the app almost daily, fix bugs and introduce new features. You can now customize Grok, as you may have noticed. Additionally, they are one of the few companies that actually use the changelog on the App Store, so you know what’s new.
Hats off to the team!
New update. Lesgo.
I have no words for this 💀
I'mma try this on v3.
Still bugs for search results on perplexity...
V3 failed
Could you elaborate?
(it's supposed to be 2...)
no model has failed so badly before
Missed
Same ._.

If the application often to see the result you have to leave the page and return to the web page error
Please share some examples in #1140622008086970420
With the new Grok 3 Beta added, this becomes even more important than before. Why would you not add this option to the rewrite dropdown?
#1363925301200945162 message
Perplexity just got name-checked on Bloomberg, one of the guests is a big fan. Clare Pleydell-Bouverie from Liontrust, specifically. And during a show called The Opening Trade
In case anyone in the team is interested. The show will be posted on Bloomberg's YouTube channel in a few hours
@crystal carbon https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTCoding/s/R8glPLI5Ii
eggg
thank you
Guys pls star #1364473914624966739
WHY IS PERPLEXITY SO FUCKING SLOW?
I dont give a shit on how it thinks!
Just like in real life
I ask, I want an answer. Ther person doesnt need to list things on how he came to the conclusion.
guys how do you get UI with these stuffs? i mean slash commands and different model selector...
im pro user for quite long time but never saw this ui before on web or windows app 🤔
It’s an extension: “Complexity”: https://www.cplx.app/
ooh thanks for info! first time heard about it
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Complexity
use sonar if you wanna prioritise speed, and reasoning models will always take a bit of time to respond by design
thanks just started configuring it, its really great extension i must say 🙂
yep i enabled nearly everything 😄 all plugins looks so useful! 😅
indeed
hi sirs, i was not able to be updated on the happenings in perplexity sir, did perplexity team gave up on DR sir or we are still clueless sir?
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I find Deepseek's new v3 to be a better writer and completely depraved. I just got it to write smut that's like 3 layers of taboo banned from all AI with no jailbreak.
No idea why it's not on that list
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hmm "GPT Image 1" that's new i guess, i didn't saw it there yesterday? 🤔
We have grok 3 and O4 mini now.
O4*
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I wanna know the difference between that and dall e 3
me 2
after fix of bug
me 3
me 4
what is the limit of o4 mini sir?
On perplexity or chatgpt?
is o4 mini better than o3
Probably a shared limit of 300 searches for all pro searches.
im not reading allat just tell me if its better than o3 for teaching me math 🙏
Yes
thank u
There are strange problem here. I can generate images only with FLUX model. No matter what I've choose in my settings -_-
Is it common problem here?
@vague pagoda might wanna look into this. And this #💬│general message
Might be a new glitch.
A guy here reported something similar earlier.
Hey guys, what is the limit on GPT-4.5 per day ?
like 5 messages a day afaik
Why even use 4.5

officially: 4.5 is not available. if you use unofficial ways, you might get banned, because it costs a fortune
@placid coyote I'm talking about this GPT-4.5 in perplexity. Are there any unofficial ways to access that strange 🤔 ?
sonnet tells me 1 use of 4.5 with max what other normal models have costs $5.34 ...
yes, using complexity
Who said it's illegal? 💀
I didn't get you @placid coyote !!! Am I allowed to use it or what
Is Complexity official or unofficial?
what's going on here
not illegal, but pretty sure against ToS of plerplexity
if it works then try and tell us
4.5 is not supported officially. this is vanilla perplexity model picker
Mods are aware of it here. They would probably make some announcement if they were bothered by it.
@tame current @placid coyote Is Complexity extension official extension by Perplexity or a spoof of perplexity?
mods are not necesarily staff. and yeah, if it uses tiny minority, they might not bother. but if they see one person costing them $801.00 per month, I am pretty sure they start fining people
If in case spoof then I'll remove that from my browser extension
complexity is a community made extension, nothing official about it
Mmmmm Interesting!!!
4.5 isnt worth it
Pretty sure they would send a notice before taking legal action.
complexity just uses old API which is not available by normal means - perplexity front-end
Successfully removed complexity till it get's official or live
yeah, they would probably give you option to pay what you used or ban
Like he can't make a new account instead of paying 800 dollars.
That was so smart of you to think of.
disabling api would follow shortly
complexity itself shouldnt be an issue lol
just dont use 4.5
the ceo is aware of complexity
Still won't stop him.
its not official but its not illegal either, complexity just modifies already existing features
but that use of 4.5 may or may not get u into trouble
Do we know which effort o4-mini is using on perplexity? One would hope that it's at least the default, medium but wouldn't be surprised if it's low.
you dont really know until you read source code. I though complexity allows things which are not possible in fe, like circumventing conversion of paste to file. doesnt it do some sniffing, maybe even forgring api calls? edit: I mean beyond using 4.5
im not aware of the specifics
Besides, their backend issue is not consumer's liability.
but im pretty sure the ceo answered a question about complexity in the ama
I’m pretty sure we don’t know what it uses
I am pretty sure that falls under illegal in eu, not sure about us. here I think it is an unauthorized use of resources
I'm getting to know lots of stuff
Perplexity has bigger priorities than people using complexity for gpt 4.5
Thanks @placid coyote
especially comet
Such is the life of transparency from companies 🙂
Besides, pretty sure perplexity has limited response lengths and tokens to cut costs.
Exactly
I thought staff confirmed high, but could be mistaking it with cursor
there is no direct information about whether Perplexity is currently using o4-mini in medium effort or low effort configuration.
Whoops! Seems like it was confirmed at least with o3-mini, I presume o4-mini is the same @left jasper
