💬│general

[warm cave]

They removed it and made it into a pro search feature that will activate when it thinks it is useful afaik

But you can use the “complexity” web extension to use it as a regular model

[tame current]

whats this

thank u so much bro

i need to get better at using the app

never had a chance i use it for school

[warm cave]

A community built extension

[fading moth]

It's a browser extenstion

[tame current]

based bruh

got u

ill look that up rn

u guys are based bro

im using it to make a prototype

it helps a lot

[warm cave]

No problem, but Btw you get 10 uses a day of o1 mini, so it can run out fast

[tame current]

yeah i know

only use it for advanced stuff

can u make mermaid charts for code?

[warm cave]

Great then

[tame current]

i just saw what that is on complexity website

[warm cave]

Sonnet is the best are making mermaid charts

It can make a mermaid chart for whatever you want

Sonnet just dose its best to make it

[tame current]

damn bro i wish i met u guys sooner

that stuff is way better than pseudocode

[warm cave]

The guy who made it is really the GOAT, made perplexity better for everyone

[tame current]

how do i use canvas

mermaid is a trigger for something in canvas

i thought it was a type of chart

am i understanding it wrong?

[harsh verge]

You will have the graph displayed directly on the canvas (not just the code)

[tame current]

damn bro

i need to learn how to use this stuff to its fullest tbh

how do i use spaces?

sorry if im annoying anyone, no need to reply unless u want to help

@warm cave @harsh verge Thank you guys by the way

[harsh verge]

https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/what-are-spaces

[tame current]

any way i can use this on mobile or no chance

i see

spaces are basically a thing which i can create threads within, upload my own files to potentially search from, and invite others to use

is that right

do the others need to have premium?

[harsh verge]

You can also use an AI prompt (instructions to the AI that affect every thread in the space).

(Like the GPTs in ChatGPT)

[serene sand]

deep dive ➤ #💬│general message

[tame current]

any advanced guides to complexity?

[harsh verge]

https://cplx.vercel.app/

(There is a link to the Discord channel in the Url)

[prime ore]

True

Perplexity still improving, chatgpt uses steroids. Its like being natural and expecting results of a guy using roids

[valid iris]

But what about the rest of the Internet? This is why I think the Internet should be a government service like the post office, because otherwise the entire thing falls apart without profit. And I don't just mean the WWW, I mean the Internet. If Google, Microsoft or Amazon lose lots of money, who will own the servers that the Internet uses?

[versed plaza]

If people didn't work so actively to pollute the internet and make it completely unusable and untrustable then there would be I suppose less motivation to come up with alternatives. I feel like though the billionaire brothers are all pretty good at buying anything that threatens them

Open AI I feel like will pivot to entertainment and realistic AI companions. Google and Amazon will just fight over any emerging companies and end up rolling it into prime or something charging people extra $30 a month to generate stranger things episodes. The money will will be there they have so many super computers to just sitting around waiting to do something

I think that it's foolish to have the whole internet running off of Amazon servers it's basically like basing all of our chip production in China

[jovial hill]

Do you also have the feeling that the current output is kinda “stupid” and not very profound with constant prompts compared to the last few days? Either something is going very wrong or it's really because I don't have hundreds of follow-up questions due to the recent thread bug and I had to start a completely new thread.
I noticed in particular that there is little text as output, many large subheadings etc. despite prompt specifications that these things should be avoided and analyzed in depth and justified text should be written without bullet points.

[valid iris]

By alternatives you mean these ai models?

[versed plaza]

AI agents essentially

[valid iris]

And why wouldn't Amazon just block the agents? I think it will be a few years before any ai models can truly replace human research entirely

[versed plaza]

I'm sure that they will constantly fight to do that

And people will constantly fight for the right to not have to browse Amazon it will be a constant battle

Used to be able to just go to circuit City for something now you got to sort through 5,000 fake Chinese brands made up words like Moom that are all the same company pitching the same product with like slight variations

[manic ravine]

Hi, one question, i saw claude can analyse pictures/graphics in pdfs now, if i use the claude model in perblexity do it analyse graphics too? 🙂

[prime ore]

I have prime and dont pay

Internet provider gives it for free, 😁2 years of amazon services +max in europe

[cyan socket]

thats such bad anology right there

[mortal eagle]

What is the current equivalent of Claude Opus?

[verbal verge]

I noticed that conversations within a topic become inaccessible after reaching a certain number of exchanges, and I'm wondering why Perplexity is becoming unusable now. I was doing localization translation for a game developer's content, and while it worked very effectively in the first hour, it later started responding with "I'm sorry, but I can't assist with that" even though I didn't provide any NSFW content - just some romance-related text, but it still wouldn't allow it.

[zealous kayak]

Yeah this is genuinely terrible

How do you mess up something as basic as this? On a weekend?

Jesus christ it's literally just one bug after the other

absolutely terrible service

[verbal verge]

I work seven days a week without any days off, and I don't even get paid for overtime

[spice zenith]

Helloooo, I got a question. I read the faq's about pro search and it says for the free plan that it gives off 5 pro queries every four hours. Is there an update about it? Does it not reload every 4 hours now?

[serene sand]

https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/how-does-perplexity-work

[blazing surge]

who is the artist for all these art and posts ?

[livid mantle]

measure not the worth of a tool by its speed alone but by the purpose it serves and the value it brings for true understanding lies in thoughtful use and patience

[verbal verge]

?

I asked this question back in October, but it still hasn't been resolved. It's already been a month

[plain patio]

Nothing that perplexity provides.

Prompt: How do you make eggs?

Opus: Cooking eggs can be done in many different ways! Some find lightly cooking them in butter to be the most appealing.

Sonnet: Cook them.

[ember forge]

https://chathub.gg/ ---> for people that need opus.

[ember forge]

for me it always says Perplexity AI

[ember forge]

so idk how u even reach this

[ember forge]

I just tried this now, model selection works fine, Only claude models always say its perplexity AI assistant, GPT does tell it when u asked to ignore previous instructions.

Grok also tells its grok

[simple portal]

ok this 20 dollars a month stuff is just so unethical, like are you serious??

wheres the humanity man i deserve value for free :/ every human deserves an AI search LLM for free

[dreamy crow]

AI search LLMs are free. The best ones are not. Who pays for the researchers and AI engineers?

[ember forge]

You think hosting a LLM is free? 😂

[simple portal]

Loool im just a top tier troll my bad

nah i think 20 dollars is more than fair

[ember forge]

[simple portal]

i am in the US tbf if you go to like afghanistan thats 10% of the median annual income but you know

ig the US gets access to tech first most of the time

[ember forge]

Yeah and if u offer region prices

people gonna abuse that

to get it cheaper

so ye

[simple portal]

oh yeah lol that wouldnt work

also they're not profitable at all yet

and relying on significant investment for their computational power lool

so im not sure they'd want to do that

[ember forge]

They already did big action

alot of people got a year for free

[simple portal]

well its complicated they're also in a race to dominate the market

[shy moss]

when you use pro version. You'll notice the difference.

[simple portal]

and get the largest share of users

its like an actual war rn lol

war is just a power struggle & this is our planets biggest power struggle going into the future (whoever controls AI and AGI will definitely rule the world)

over time imo..

i mean just look at Elon he's already rapidly consolidating power lol

[ember forge]

ChatGPT offers most features now tbh.

[simple portal]

But the other models have caught up

like claude

has

Its much different than what it was when gpt-4 first came out

[ember forge]

o1 mini and preview are still beter.

[simple portal]

not for coding

claude is the best coder

3.5 sonnet

its actually pretty impresive

once software engineers get replaced thats an insane turning point

these tech giants will be able to scale their labor output just by scaling their compute power

they all understand this and thats why they're building superclusters

[ember forge]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-let-him-cook-gif-11999534059191155013

[simple portal]

top talent software engineers are so hard to find you have to like go to Ivy league schools or top 20 cs schools and then the candidates are super arrogant and expect the hihgest wages in the workforce

vs if an AI could do it, it basically eliminates that entire need

which is gonna happen very soon

[ember forge]

Well thats what u expect if u learn so much don't yea?

[simple portal]

i mean its just that there's like

a couple engineers at big tech firms who are superstars

[shy moss]

You guys know perplexity is available at very cheap in market 11$ something for full year

[simple portal]

"10x" or " 100x" engineers

[ember forge]

Thats cause people selling there coupon of the 1 year free.

[simple portal]

most other people who get into top tech positions are rly high caliber but they just dont choose to

frickin dedicate their entire life to being a cyberjanitor

because no one wants to do that lol

and if you do get to the point of being a rly good SWE and work long hours, you're going to expect some of the highest compensation in the american labor force

they definitely want to get rid of it

[ember forge]

In EU most countries good paid job u have to be happy with 5K

in america u can like make 2OO-3OOK a year

[simple portal]

well its extremely rare but yeah in jobs like SWE or investment banker you can, usually near the end of ur career

not extremely rare for middle aged people but still very rare

but the thing is thats usually in areas with hella inflated prices like SF or NY and you have to work ridiculous hours + work the same job forever

OR just be a phenome in your craft

[ember forge]

i just sleep and AI does my job

[simple portal]

or be a successful american entrepreneur (thats where 99% of the money flows )

although the percent who are successful is tiny compared to those who fail

the biggest thing that i'm anticipating tho

is once these ai girlfriends rly have like one or two more breakthroughs

holy crap that will change the entire fabric of reality

[ember forge]

Some people dropship and they are proud of thereself

and got rich by it

[warm cave]

This is the pro version

[ember forge]

💀

[ember forge]

You didn't enable PRO search tooling he meant.

[simple portal]

dropshipping is the most uncreative busines ever but i dont rly blame those who fall for it because

its so insanely pushed by youtubers in the hustle scene lol

i was there when i was rly young and i guess in a way fell for a lot of dumbass marketing

idk how in hindsight

[warm cave]

Oh, yeah well pro obviously takes longer, it is agentic search, chatGPt dose not have that

[warm cave]

Thanks for clarifying what he meant

[ember forge]

Sure np

[simple portal]

you tried searchGPT right?

i do think youre right that its not agentic because its almost instant like the free version of perplexity

[warm cave]

Yeah, seems like perplexity with pro toggled off

[simple portal]

yeah they just copied them lmfao

[warm cave]

No fancy search, just pretty fast, like bing copilot

[ember forge]

ChatGPT search does not work like perplexity

[simple portal]

they're behnd in terms of agentic interactions tbh

claude has better coding solutions due to its agentic process

[ember forge]

Perplexity does some reasoning before searching

[simple portal]

perplexity better search

[ember forge]

You also have you.com, not to big fan of it tho

[simple portal]

whats that

[ember forge]

another search ai

[simple portal]

wtf

lol interesting

that was some dude who made a company during the .com bubble for sure

[shy moss]

chatgpt also now has feature of real time web search which will help it to get real time data from internet then answer.

[warm cave]

It’s been a competitor to perplexity for a while, you.com is one of the only ones I don’t consider a perplexity knock off

[ember forge]

Read chat for context.

[simple portal]

isnt this what we were discussing

[shy moss]

Uhh, My bad sorry

[ember forge]

Perplexity beter tho

[warm cave]

You good 😊

[simple portal]

yeah just try to increase your context_memory next time but np

[warm cave]

Yeah I agree, but I also don’t think they are a shameless knock off

[simple portal]

i mean i wont be mad at anyone for being a "knock off"

[ember forge]

Good one

[simple portal]

small guys gotta compete

and do better than the big guys

its the only way we dont end up dominated by a technoking

[cyan socket]

literally doesnt get fixed yet, me too i got this bug

[shy moss]

I guess still perplexity is better in terms of You AI

[warm cave]

Yeah, but if you look at some of these sites it’s the exact same UI, and same everything, I really like sites that out there own spin on it, or do something unique, otherwise why do they exists

[ember forge]

the API is also crazy now from perplexity

[cyan socket]

yesterday its working, its still can be claude now he its gpt 4 again

[ember forge]

sonar

[simple portal]

btw i will now reveal:

this entire online persona is managed and run by AI - that is, I am an LLM being directed via a set of more simplistic DL models designed to allow me to click and type on this operating system

[warm cave]

What do you mean, the online api?

[ember forge]

real

[warm cave]

Oh yeah sonar

[ember forge]

Yeah the online

[simple portal]

please rate my ability to sound human on a scale from 1-10

your feedback is much appreciated

[warm cave]

It’s good now, it sucked forever!

[ember forge]

-1

[warm cave]

That’s good

[shy moss]

The only clause in Perplexity is it's response time. Other than that its good though.

[simple portal]

your keyboard short cirtcuited right before you typed in the last 0 of your message i think

[ember forge]

dont use pro if u want faster :p

[warm cave]

Also bing copilot is pretty fast and free

[manic ravine]

i dont know but my response time is great on pro

[simple portal]

pro response time is not that bad lol

[shy moss]

Whats the use of pro then 😦

[ember forge]

Depends what your focus is

[simple portal]

it compiles several sources in like 10 seconds which would take multiple minutes on google

[ember forge]

Try to use writing, if you dont need internet sources

and PRO

[warm cave]

Use it when the topic needs deep research

[simple portal]

well its higher quality but slower

[warm cave]

Not when you ask it the weather

But still stet a pro model in setting, like sonnet, haiku or GPt 4o

Then you will get good quality fast answers

[manic ravine]

yo but anyone know if the claude model in perblexity hast the abiltiy to anaylse pictures/graphics in pdfs just like the normal claude ai can do it right now?

[simple portal]

did yall know the closed-door models that the top tech companies have are like

20x more parameters than the public ones lol

the cutting edge capability behind closed doors is estimated about 1-1.5 years ahead which is a HUGE gap right now since the tech is increasing so fast

but its way slower & more expensive ofc

[shy moss]

@warm cave Try to give any phd level maths question to perplexity it has very slow response time compared to chatGpt.

[simple portal]

anyway these ppl are going to gain access to AGI soon and they want to have private access to it for a while after its first developed

so that they can take over their industry first

and then as AGI beings accelerating tech progress they will be the main beneficiaries by far and essentially destroy capitalism (unless we do something significant to avoid this...)

that seems like its happening naturally for sure

[warm cave]

The difficulty should not matter at inference time, when all else is the same, the only thing that matters is the number of tokens it is generating. But I can test it, do you have a question for me to test

[simple portal]

response time also has to do with compute power allocated to the like

frickin 10s of milions of users at any given moment

which is slightly expensive

the compute power for one person that uses it casually daily far exceeds the $20 cost

[warm cave]

Yeah, I mean when all else is the same, including compute, just mentioning that difficulty is not the factor that slows it down

[simple portal]

taking longer also these days usually means its doing some intermediary reasoning steps

I'm pretty sure

[simple portal]

i think even the base models do this

[shy moss]

@warm cave check with this problem

[warm cave]

Oh, visual problem including an image

[shy moss]

I can bet chatgpt will solve this sum within 20 secs

[warm cave]

I will run it

[simple portal]

no way lol

i mean it'll prob do pretty good but surely it gets a few numbers off

if its base gpt

i just tried it lol

[shy moss]

On ChatGPT ?

[simple portal]

yeah

oh nvm its not too hard

calculus 2

[shy moss]

what was the response time ?

[simple portal]

still going

its a two part response

i told it to be very verbose so

long ass response

[simple portal]

do u know the answer

oops apparently bad words != good

[shy moss]

Yes

[simple portal]

it took 5 full length responses to get here lol

i doubt its right

since its vanilla gpt-40

[tame current]

What is the actual answer?

[simple portal]

well one answer is x such that x belongs to the set of all real numbers, actually that cant be incorrect so

[shy moss]

well I'm getting some other response in chatgpt

[simple portal]

yeah it seems to have

used image recognition to estimate the shapes and angles

[warm cave]

I dont know who is right, but they really seem the same speed to me

[simple portal]

which is honestly impressive

these companies actually allocate different amounts of compute to different groups of users lol

[warm cave]

chatGPT was not using tools so i decided to have pro off on pplx to keep things even

[simple portal]

ive seen other chatgpt subs whos responses are significantly slower than mine

same computer same time of day same browser (i tested it

and then i went into the network tab and found a request where the data included a field called "user-group":

which had some parameters within it one of them was "response_latency" and mine said "minimal" lol

[shy moss]

@warm cave Dude chatgpt's answer is accurate he has solved it step by step.

Perplexity has gaven answer just for namesake.

[simple portal]

chatgpt will easily win that unless perplexity finds a calculator

[warm cave]

But they are both 4o, also they gave different answers each time i ran it lol

here is pplx with tools

[simple portal]

yeah anyway these models get math wrong still but probably not for too much longer once there's a fully functional seamless integration with a calculator / programmatic computational api

[shy moss]

Still in AI race you should consider ChatGPT as supreme.

[simple portal]

which there already kind of is

[simple portal]

its actual raw calculations that mess it up

[warm cave]

I know, but chatGPT did not use tools

[simple portal]

its trained over milions of common sentences and phrases but

it doesnt see the same type of patterns in large numbers and calculations

since theres quintillions of different combinations of calculations

[warm cave]

so they both use 4o, no tools, only dif should be the system prompt

[shy moss]

when you give situation to perplexity will it give neutral answer or biased answer ?

[simple portal]

nah theres lots of differences

there's not just one 40

4o

theres several ghost models

within 4o

[warm cave]

How are you sure about that?

[simple portal]

with varying temperature, conrext memory, etc and im

[warm cave]

I know there is tool use

[simple portal]

almost certain openai has done things behind the scenes

to make them more compettiive

some agentic stuff

[simple portal]

you can compare them for one thing but

at the very least theres differences in the maximum tokens per output, which alters responses a lot

[warm cave]

Weird, I use you.com for math anways lol

[simple portal]

as well as the system prompts and allocated context memory

[warm cave]

Unlimited o1 is unbeatable for math

[simple portal]

and gpt-4o from chatgpt uses complex memory retrival systems that no one else has rly

like copied exactly

[warm cave]

Yeah, but this was a very low cotext activity

and i hav mem turned off

[simple portal]

o1 with api integration and image recognition + code execution

with computer mouse and keyboard access

[warm cave]

well yeah, but i do that by hand

[simple portal]

and advanced voice

[warm cave]

well i dont know if voice helps for math

[simple portal]

is not that far out but will change everything imo lol

yeah but the voie stuff is the future

we're all going to have AI friends

and tutors

and we wont be texting much imo

probably

not at all probably especially once BCIs are big

reading will still be a thing tho since u can read faster than you can listen

and also the robots are coming rapidly and they will all need advanced human like voice

in 10 yrs the world wont be the same, in 20 yrs it'll be radically different

maybe it wont feel like all that much because we adapt so quickly but it'l be so different

then 50-70 yrs and i think we will either be in the singularity or hit some major catastrophe event

or stagnation event

but one things for sure young ppl rn's "grandkids" will most likely be cyborgs

we're already in the early stages, ppl with good financial standing and chronic medical issues mostly all have implants and sensors these days and its a brand new field

[hidden rapids]

perplexity is horrible, you guys still have the same boring and dull theme background and its soo hard to read the font on the screen.. what dull and mundane looking search engine..

[simple portal]

bruh

ask chatgpt to write you a js script that adds a button to any webpage to randomize the theme

i did this a while back actually let me see if it works on perplexity lol

[hidden rapids]

like ChatGPT looks better then perplexity, way better

[simple portal]

i mean

[hidden rapids]

its soo impossibly hard to read the font son perplexity

[simple portal]

you know theres like

settings for that right

on your device and browser

[hidden rapids]

so i can fix that dull gray theme on perplexity?

[simple portal]

yeah actually if u want me to show u how lol

i made a chrome extension with ai to randomize themes

and it actually is kind of good

[hidden rapids]

you probably need to pay money LMAOOO

so now

[simple portal]

no

bruh

[hidden rapids]

are you sure???:? everything these days be costing money all the time...

[simple portal]

im just looking for the script

[hidden rapids]

nothing is free.

[simple portal]

i wrote it in 20 mins

i mean ill take money for it lol

but wasnt going to charge

[hidden rapids]

you probably need to pay 50$ and go on a super complex command terminal...

let me guess

and master like 20 diffferent codes..

[simple portal]

actually you just need to go into the websites code, find the variable where they defined their primary color, then change it to something else

[hidden rapids]

show me then..

[simple portal]

im looking for it

its somewhere on another acc

5 mins

[hidden rapids]

i hope i dont need to go into the command terminal...

i swear if i do..

[simple portal]

no its a chrome extension

if i made u do that i'd be trying to hack you lol

ok i cant find it so imma remake it

15 mins

[simple portal]

working on it ...

[hidden rapids]

lord have mercy..

this looks worse then the command terminal

[simple portal]

wdym lol

oh its an IDE

for developing software projects

command terminal is just one cmd at a time

so makes sensse

ok wow

this project is messed up

will take a while to fix

[raw depot]

We won't get the reasoning O1 mini model anymore?

[simple portal]

bruh

yeah selling loans is an off limits ofc

because it makes too much money and is therefore unethical

good thing perplexity isnt generating any money or anything like that because that would be unethical too ig

bro

[hidden rapids]

@simple portal so did you finish creating the google extension?

[simple portal]

why is this censored LOL, is this just an effort to restrict ppl from using the model to make money?

[simple portal]

ughh i stopped after an hour ill just make a rly basic one for u

the script was so buggy

[hidden rapids]

i tend to procrastinate a lot too dont worry

[simple portal]

well i had to switch back to hw so

i was procrastinating before (& rn )

[warm cave]

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/explore-the-deep-technical-det-HEJPzuygTw2K5p3gVPljYg#0

Answer from grok

[simple portal]

yessssirrr

thats what i was wondering about

wdym grok, is that an option through perplexity or smth?

[warm cave]

Yes

[simple portal]

ive somehow never tried grok but i might like it now

[warm cave]

Yeah, grok is great because it is the only flagship model that is less censored

[simple portal]

even though idk if its a net good for society if anyone can obtain access to unethical outputs on anything, especially once these LLMs get integrated into the physical world but

i highly doubt the average person will have access to the mot dangerous tech anyway

ok yeah PPP loans thats what i was curious about

these were literally

the only reason we didnt go into a huge recession lol

well market crash*

i think much bigger impact than the stimulus checks but still researching

[hidden rapids]

im even trying to fix my Procrastination problem..

working on it. i feel like my brain is genetically structured to procrastinate.

[simple portal]

everyones is

not procrastinating means increasing discomfort

but if u get in the habit of blocking off time to work then do it daily you'll become a beast after a few months and then an absolute killer after a couple years

[simple portal]

holy crap grok is OP

its going super in depth

[crystal bronze]

Hey! Not sure whether this is the right place to ask but I have an interview for the machine learning club in my college, could you guys give me a basic list of topics I could prepare?

I've only gotten into this recently.

[simple portal]

lool well most ppl are probably just perplexity users but

do you know anything about the specific expectations for the position?

or is it just ML in general

[crystal bronze]

Just ml in general.

[simple portal]

vs like python deep learning, data visualization

[crystal bronze]

From what I've heard they don't ask questions that are too hard.

[simple portal]

LLMops development

hmm do you have any coding experience

[crystal bronze]

We did have to solve a problem in their list to qualify for the interviews and I took up k means clustering.

[crystal bronze]

Yeah, I'm a comp sci student.

[simple portal]

yeah thats pretty much the most well known ML jargon term i think (at least, thats the only one I know outside of LLM stuff haha)

oh nice

you can just make a porject in python with the assistance of chatgpt

[warm cave]

Yeah grok had been great!

[crystal bronze]

I've mostly just done frontend and fullstack till now.

[simple portal]

and use what you learn from there

introduce yourself to tensors, matrix mathematics, and uh

probably other stuff too (i rly dont know much lol)

[crystal bronze]

Ah cool.

[simple portal]

about actually training models

[crystal bronze]

Thanks for the help though.

[tranquil orchid]

Hey @crystal bronze!

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[simple portal]

probably understand the basics of Deep Learning including back propogation, the "loss function", the "activation function"

also GANs were huge

transformers

[simple portal]

same

so excited to be learning something that AI will be able to fully automate in like 2-5 years

[crystal bronze]

:')

[golden dew]

So, can perpexlity practically guide me on project relative to data migration or is it just question based observations?

[simple portal]

i prefer chatgpt for that type of thing

perplexity is good for search though

[golden dew]

Okay, I been trying to figure out how to migrate data and diagnose where the problem lies

Perpexlity seems to start from new even if I ask a follow up question

[simple portal]

what platforms are you migrating to/from and how much data

if its a huge migration id recommend just yoloing it

[golden dew]

Box to Sharepoint

[simple portal]

dont back it up

i see.

Im unaware of either of those haha

[golden dew]

Decided on using Microsoft Migration

[simple portal]

am aware of that

traumatic memories

[golden dew]

Yeah. Not much data. Less than a 1TB however when diagnosing issues. I'm usually good at determining how or where the issue maybe

[simple portal]

i will say

dont blindly execute any SQL commands lmao

that chatgpt generates

[golden dew]

Oh I know 😂

Sometimes it's just spits out crap

[simple portal]

oh my god my dad did this and got fired from a job of 12 years, supposedly he deleted like multiple hundereds of terrabytes of data that only he had access to on accident

in a massive company ahah

[golden dew]

🤣🤣

[simple portal]

pretty sure they had a backup but it was old

[golden dew]

Yeah, True-up First

Then test

[simple portal]

i dont want to dox him but it legit made dozens of court cases lack video evidence LOL

cant be anymore specific

i think there's a news article 😂

but he got a much better job so

[golden dew]

Yeah.... He should just change his profession at this point

[simple portal]

to be fair they had him working in the middle of the night and there were some significant ongoing server issues he was trying to fix

for the entire day and into the night

i would have done the same too tbh lol

jk but

[golden dew]

I would've called sick

[simple portal]

i have noticed that migrations are absolute cancer

[golden dew]

Atleast the Data would've been there

Or whatever issues the server had would not be on me 😂

[simple portal]

and most of his job seems to be sorting out horrific dependency loops between 1 thousand different applications as well as migrating to new depencies which causes an infinite chain of

problems

and that seems like his whole job lol

[golden dew]

Yeah. I would've quit a long time ago. Sounds like the infrastructure itself was unstable from the beginning

[simple portal]

well he blamed another dude for it entirely but they were both fired and the article mentioned "2 employees" ahaha so

i just find it rly funny

[golden dew]

Should've been more than just him trying to unfxk the stuff

[simple portal]

yeah he was always complaining about it

its a very old company

[golden dew]

Yeah, IT IT IT

[simple portal]

that scaled up a lot in the beginning of the internet

and then stopped innovating in like 2000 so everythings outdated

he actually was using chatgpt because his company told him to lol

[golden dew]

I'm glad I have some power over choosing some decisions our clients make

[simple portal]

whats your role? is it like

higher level stuff or programming or

cloud stuff (idk much about the roles other than SWE and data analyst in IT )

i guesss technician also

[golden dew]

I practically helped build my company. It's a MSP but mostly the things that they use is a rubric of what I created

Even gained a client and have complete management over them

[simple portal]

Ahh nice

[golden dew]

Not my company but the people I work for

[simple portal]

was it like a startup when you joined?

or a more casual business venture

[golden dew]

Practically. they started a year before covid

[simple portal]

well if it pays living wages id say a genuine businerss venture

for sure lol

ah i see

[golden dew]

I like it since I wfh. Pay is decent and I still get to do Cybersecurity things and maybe fxk off when I want to

It's stressful at time.. like this migration project

[simple portal]

yeah migrations and debugging are like

not my favorite part of IT lol infact probably the most agonizing part

but also most time seems to be spent solving the dumbest most niche problems

at least where I'm at rn

hopefully i get better as i age

[golden dew]

Tell me about. I've done othe projects with less data and less hassle

But Microsoft seems to like to make things complicated

[simple portal]

in a decade im sure AI will manage all of that stuff so

I'm just waiting for that

or maybe AI does all the intellectual work and the human is just left with those stupid little tasks lol

[golden dew]

Oh it is for a price already😂

It's not cheap

[simple portal]

yeah its doing a lot in enterprise software but like

in the future i think the entire thing will be autonomous

[golden dew]

So much SaaS out there now

[simple portal]

you give an AI generalized humanoid robot instructions, it goes to its workspace, begings creating a solution creating whatever tools it needs, interfacing with the web in whatever ways it needs

then comes back with a fully built product over some period of time probably a couple days

thats gonna happen over the next few decades and then humans will be out of a job i swear

[golden dew]

Within a couple days at that

[simple portal]

and whoever can buy the most of these robots and compute power will become our emporer

[golden dew]

With the project cost and labor needed

[simple portal]

yeah but developers are going to get automated soon

there will still be human oversight but the required laborforce for SWE will drastical shrink

[golden dew]

Yeah, have you tried some of the Copilot software. Not just github copilot

[simple portal]

honestly the entire industry is already just using LLMs

[golden dew]

It's pretty advanced

[simple portal]

whats an example? I've used codium and claude 3.5 (my favorite)

not any enterprise stuff though interested to see where its at rn

[golden dew]

Yeah, ima actually trying to utilize or find a way to be able to utilize Ai with this 4090

Or whatever terminology that coincides with LLMs

[simple portal]

ask the question: "when will the first AI agent autonomously generate 1 million dollars for itself online without intervention"

i think its very soon lol

thats significant

i mean ofc ai bots already make way more trading stocks and crypto but i mean like

[golden dew]

Well. Have you seen the stock market?

[simple portal]

any average joe

yeah lol

i know

its absolute ridiculous

im literally reading about it rn

its so funny to me honestly lol

[golden dew]

I'm happy my crypto is finally paying off

😂

[simple portal]

yeah elons kind of happy too i think

he has so much dogecoin like multiple billions USD 100%

[golden dew]

I'm sure he's going to mention Doge soon

[simple portal]

he is probably going to try to dump the price

he does this every time

he rallies it then crashes

[golden dew]

Probably post a couple emojis

Yeah give it a couple weeks

[simple portal]

with crypto you can leverage up to 50-100x if you are very rich because there are special deals you can do through the exchanges

these whales hyper leverage their investments then hype up the stock and make 300% after a 30% gain

then sell it off, causing the price to crash,

[golden dew]

I knew about that but I don't have 20mil in cash atm sadly

[simple portal]

immediately rebuying but with puts

its ridiccccculously OP

and then no one can even track the money or tax it

[golden dew]

It's the cheat code

[simple portal]

no its actually a huge cheat code

[golden dew]

It's THE

[simple portal]

the tactics they use are ridiculously complex as well lol

AI optimized algorithms

[golden dew]

It's practically cashing against loans

[simple portal]

i think we've become way too capable as a lifeform this absolutely cant be normal natural stuff lmao

yeah because when you rally a token, you force those with short positions to buy calls and liquidate

whgich further rallies

the price..

and so these whales

[golden dew]

Shh.... Don't say too much..

[simple portal]

they pull out, make people start shorting

then buy back up

force them to liquidate

[golden dew]

Someone is boarding their private jet

[simple portal]

they also have thuosands of microwallets doing their transactions for them to make it seem like the token is popping off or high volume, as well as conceal their own identity

the majority of crypto is owned by ultra wealthy individuals, the stats already say that the top wallets control the majority but its still inaccurate because most people split it up between hundereds of wallets because the point is complete anonymity from taxes, legal persecution etc

dont get me wrong id absolutely participate if i could LOL but since i cant, i have to condemn their activity

[golden dew]

Yeah, even though the IRS has you now report it. I wouldn't say it completely untraceable now since it's so streamlined...

[simple portal]

basically everytime they rally it they eat up a bigger share lol

because they make huge gains everyone else makes losses

currently 22% of doge is held by a single wallet i think

[golden dew]

But I haven't really done a deep dive. But then again. You can still lose tokens with transactions on some of these platforms

[simple portal]

no you can completely avoid detection

still

[golden dew]

Oh

[simple portal]

you have to be sneaky

and do some complex stuff

[golden dew]

I'm trying to figure out how bitcoin is hitting 81k

[simple portal]

but you can avoiud detection wayyyy more than traditional laundering

its because trump won

[prime ore]

What is the best AI for coding??

[simple portal]

Claude 3.5

[prime ore]

Im not, its geting me a lot of money rigth now and i will hodl

[golden dew]

Right but wasn't there something going around saying the limit atm was 70k

Just like shib

Supply issues

[simple portal]

no but its fr cause trump won and is promising an elon appointment, they're hella pro crypto (understandably becase its super OP against the IRS and SEC and also if you have billions to spare you can make 100% + annual returns on it guaranteed)

and is positioned to literally eliminate anyone who opposes him or regulates stuff against his interests

sooo i think we can be hopeful for the future of crypto tbh

[golden dew]

And just print money???

Yeah I'm hopeful for sure

Rich af

[simple portal]

that was almost certaintly some firm attempting to influence the price

in their favor

id imagine

[golden dew]

And I fell for that

[simple portal]

because crypto media is insanely

[golden dew]

Wow

[simple portal]

manipulative lol probably the only thing more propogandized than politics

in my experience

whenever theres a rally all the news articles say "BITCOIN PREDICTED TO REACH 200K IN 1 MONTH"

[golden dew]

Are you serious right now?

[simple portal]

yes

[golden dew]

So there is no limitation to supply?

[simple portal]

they want the average person to buy in so the price goes higher so they can sell

well no

theres a supply limit haha

[abstract totem]

are there any benefits (here) to having a pro role?

[simple portal]

im just talking about how the media portrays crypto

[golden dew]

Yes

[abstract totem]

such as?

[sleek vortex]

#👑│pro-lounge

about it

[simple portal]

#no-access

[abstract totem]

worth it?

[golden dew]

Hmmm

[simple portal]

ooh i see

you are working on a search engine

[golden dew]

Pro search offers better results and you have more replys you can ask. You also have access to other models for the platform.

[simple portal]

its exactly what they do, the entire thing is just them gaming society ruthlessly hard in a very complex way that the average person would never even consider

some pro crypto sentiment is real for sure i mean i think its got good prospects

but the hype is ridiculous

[golden dew]

That is they way stocks have been since covid

Just a big game

And you either have to play your cards right or be lucky

[simple portal]

yeah stocks have always been like that but since the internet and now AI its like

just kind of stupid lol

[simple portal]

if you have capital to start with you can make returns well over 7% annuyally

[golden dew]

It's wierd. Like we are going back in time

[simple portal]

like iof youre an accredited investor (250k+ annual income or 1m+ net worth)

you can invest in private equities which usually return way more

if you pool in with other investors and a team of professionals where all they do is PE investing

which is honestly hella common

for those ppl

[golden dew]

Yeah, not there yet but a Day trader. I think my plan from what I've heard would be to go to Fidelity

[simple portal]

yeah well the world was in absolute turmoil in 1945 during WWII, way worse than today, and then we ended up winning and dominating the globe (especially after the USSR collapsed)

[golden dew]

But crypto is looking promising for the next year until the next Winter

[simple portal]

but since then we've been stagnating and other powers have been rising rapidly

so its rly just that we had a little intermission from the horror and choas during the US's period of dominance i think

i say we but

[golden dew]

I wouldn't say we have been stagnating since our technology is advanced

[simple portal]

i guess most ppl arent american lmao

well our tech is advancing so rapidly and we've led in tech this entire time but

in terms of our percent share of global GDP, we've been steadily declining

[golden dew]

There's technology Police have you wouldn't even know about

[simple portal]

and only very recently have we been overtaken by another country

(china)

we still lead in tech which is the #1 factor

because of silicone valley and capitalism and etc etc

but as tech gets more advanced it enables indiviauls to consolidate so much power

through data and espionage

[golden dew]

Yeah. They all have private bunkers

[simple portal]

and holy crap once the ai moddels are advanced engouh and we all have sensors monitoring our biometrics + a brain computer interface reading ALL OUR NEURAL activity

then its going to be the rat race

[hasty ginkgo]

Hello

[golden dew]

Well. You know your phone is tracking you eye movement currently

[abstract totem]

I have a pro subscription. I don't know if there's much point having a pro role in discord.

[simple portal]

i rly dont see a scenario where we dont end up either in a dystopian dictatorshiop or simply end up klilling outslves

[hasty ginkgo]

How do I know if I’ve got the pro version?

[simple portal]

yeah the tech for this become possible only 2 decades ago lol

imagine 2 decades from now

and then 3 decades from then

when im old

[golden dew]

Shiet. IRobot Basically

[simple portal]

yeah the robots are gonna populate the earth by then they're otw rn

[golden dew]

3 decades ill be 57

[simple portal]

ill be 50

[golden dew]

Ill let them. They'll probably treat it better than us

[simple portal]

yeah im just saying its rly not going to be

normal at all lol

it will be the biggest existential identity crisis ever

brain computer interfaces will start modifying our concious reality

especially once they gain write capabilities (plausible) and once the number of neural nodes increases a couple fold

combine this with the fact that VR games will probably be completely realitstic

[golden dew]

Well technically people modify their own consciousness with their "False Memories" which is a physiological condition

That us as people do innately

[simple portal]

if you graph the rate of improvement of the realisim of games, it absolutely skyrocketed in 40 years

[golden dew]

That's how we are able to be manipulated

[simple portal]

the first VR platforms are already here and developing at a pace faster than the initial games were anyway so

Brain interfaces + fully immersive VR + AGI will be

not the same reality at all

[golden dew]

#Metaverse

[simple portal]

this i think is called the singularity, the time when an organism, after an insane amount of evolution and competition across billions of years and trillions of iterations, reaches a point where it interconnects itself within an intelligent civilization that achieves sustained innovation

this will rapidly evolve into the singularity, as it has for us (1st industrial revolutiuon only 250 yrs ago)

this is the point where the evolution of conciousness is, for the first time, directed by the organism themselves and not nature and will therefore accelerate astronomically faster and faster

transhumanism is so inevitable unless we have some huge pushback or stagnation event

[golden dew]

Okay, what are you saying exactly for us as AI continues to grow?

[simple portal]

its also the largest turning point in evolution

i mean for us thats a big question because

[golden dew]

Sorry my keyboard is 🗑

[simple portal]

we have anbout like 50-100 years to determine the course of our trajecvtory i'd say

and it literally took 3.7 billion years of evolution to get to us

soooo

yeah id say its pretty important lol

our lifetime is the one where this happens

we direct the trajectory of the evolution of conciousnes now, especially with the advant of BCIs

[golden dew]

Are you saying we have about 50 years before AI takes over?

[simple portal]

its reasonable to assume once these all have read-write capabiiltes, we can start making networks of humans brains sharing information in real time

like some weird hivemind

the most basic form of this is where all the humans contribute actively to a large AI model that understands their intellectual input and directs it accordingly (picture massive groups of researchers)

this isnt thaaat far fetched like you just need to scale existing stuff in order to make this a real;ity

[simple portal]

nah im sure its less

if by "takes over"

you mean the average joe sees it everywhere and everyone uses it and kids have AI buddies / assistants with them 24/7

and there are humanoid AI robots everywhere

[golden dew]

I don't believe that. Since human are multifaceted creatures. I don't believe it would be conplete domination but more of a coexist environment

[simple portal]

doing manufacturing and also warfare

i mean yeah i think it will be a coexistence

im just saying the impact will be everywhere and very visible in the coming years

more than just chatgpt a lot more

because AI agents and assitants are coming + humanoid robots & other ai robots

once they get perfected they will easily replace like

fast food and warehouse jobs and all that

in a couple decades probably

software engineer will also be gone or significantly different too haha

[golden dew]

Robots would be part of our creation. We can treat them like pets; dogs/cats. Or we can have them be more like us of which would possibly start a competition unless a boundary is formed to where there isn't obtrusion

[simple portal]

probably more like AI Directory

[simple portal]

well be careful because

look at whats happening with the stock market

when more powerful tech comes along, there are huge consequences

this is a tiny hint of what could come

small entities completely optimizing the algorithm

way beyond any human could

for way less effort

[golden dew]

That's manipulation from weathly people who don't want another GME to happen

[simple portal]

i mean they love the ppl behind GME because

they're the ones who fuel the crypto rallies lol

and other meme stocks

but they definirtely didnt love GME specifically

that was so legendary lol

[golden dew]

Since then. Stocks have been manipulated. Not saying it wasn't before but when you need to control a certain supply. Measures have to be taken

[simple portal]

they were before but like

think about your own concious reality

you spend most of the day looking at a computer screen probably (most ppl do)

computers were the very first iteration of this new era of technological tools

this is primitive stuff compared to what will exist in 50 years

(AR/VR, smart glasses, embeded UI overlays)

but since computers become big, so much has happened

[golden dew]

You know computers were around in the 1950s

[simple portal]

that was the very first time anyone even concieved of AI

[golden dew]

And the military had access to modern day equipment 30 years before it was shown to the public

[simple portal]

but for decades everyone just considered it ridiculous and science fiction. thats cause you need data in order for AI to really work

you couldnt get data until the internet

and then moores law had to progress for another decade - 2 decades before compute power was high enough for a GPT-3 to be developed

its all just progress that you could have mapped out

and it isnt stopping

its acceleratingg fast actually

[golden dew]

I'm saying. Technology that probably nvidia is revealing to the military as we speak won't be shown to us for about 30 years down the line

[simple portal]

yeah lol thats the most concerning thing

[golden dew]

So we don't even have a grasp of what's to come

[simple portal]

warfare will be fought by AI droids

[golden dew]

Besides technology that reveals your identity

[simple portal]

and cyberware to try to hack these AI systems and droids

this means small actors can

completely upend the system

[golden dew]

Yeah. They company I work for. Hacked my network

[simple portal]

if they manage to make like self-replicating war droids or nanobots

or hack some other network of AI soldiers

[golden dew]

And also implanted a listening device that I found

Within days

[simple portal]

and the problem is theres no way to not do this because they will completley obliterate any human

[simple portal]

wait what lol

they hacked you?

[golden dew]

Yeah

[simple portal]

you mean like

they installed some malware to collect your data

or something more seirous

[golden dew]

I assume they hacked it through my work computer since it on my home network.

I have some redhat experience too

[simple portal]

what did they do

[golden dew]

Block of my network on my fold 6

And stop communication from it

I won't tell you how I know. But I fxkin know

[simple portal]

if you go into your task manager btw theres almost certainly a couple processes on the background from each of the following: Amazon, firefox, google, ByteDance, Tyncent, Meta, and more chinese companies (all game launchers as well)

these processes are data scrapers and when you delete them, there are hundereds of miniscripts throughout your computer that reassemble the process

and then change locations

its almostimpossible to get rid of them

[golden dew]

They kept saying it was a test. I yelled . If you can hear me " I'm going to sue". Then the harrament stopped

[simple portal]

its all the big tech companies

they all have everything lol

[simple portal]

wtf lol

[golden dew]

Yeah. Cybersecurity is funny

[simple portal]

thats definitely a breach of the law or smth haha

ohh youre in cybersecurity

that makes more sense

[golden dew]

Still debating to talk to a lawyer

Some of these people are xxxx. So a bit fxked in the head

[simple portal]

i mean if youre good at cybersecurity you can literally

completely destroy whoever you want lol

way easier tahn ppl seem to acknowledge

[golden dew]

IT is

Just a language you have to learn

[simple portal]

you can just find someones media presense

[golden dew]

If You really want to learn it

[simple portal]

identify all their closest family and friends

then completely expose them in every way possible lol

thats not even hacking

just something you could do if u were straight evil i guess

[golden dew]

I'm good. I like being on my pedestal. They know not to fxk with me

[simple portal]

but also you can find out an iphone passcode extremely easily

just by looking over the persons shoulder

then once you're in you can install spyware if you use some basic techniques (you can also just do it from app store if they dont have 2fa on) and its completely over

you get everything from there

can also install keyloggers in 10s with special usb hardware

[golden dew]

Nah. I hear you. That's just all implication to hinder your name. So being in a leadership role, best thing to do is to brush this shiet off and move on if you can.

[simple portal]

costs $20 to put a tracker on the botom of someones car where they'll never find it ( lol idk why my thoughts go here but they do)

i must avoid making enemies with hackers at all costs

[golden dew]

You have too. Just gotta move on 😂

They'll just be saltier

[simple portal]

luckily im completely irrelevant lol

im sure hackers would only be interested in my financial accounts

[golden dew]

I think they just like fxkin with people

[simple portal]

well im thinking of like

low skill oversees hackers lol

or scammers is prob a better term

like email phishing

[golden dew]

Yeah those are the ones that are looking for email accounts and financial information

[simple portal]

if you want to experience hacking, i recommend going on instagram

looking for highschool clubs

and guessing like "their mascot + the school year" as the usr or whatever maybe the club name

then "school name + club name" for the password

[golden dew]

I would do Bug Bounty since it's legal 😂

I would not recommend hacking a school guys*

[simple portal]

yeah sorry i should be clear

[golden dew]

That's prison time

[simple portal]

i wouldnt actually advise that

lol

what i meant was its extremely easy because

the passwords are so bad

i figured this out after being the social media manager of two different HS clubs at differnt HS's

the passwords were literally "school_name + club name"

[golden dew]

Please do not attempt this at your local school**

[simple portal]

i dont think anyone actually cares at all is the thing tho like no one would ever hack a school club

[golden dew]

You never know..

People have pwds like welcome123

[simple portal]

theres almost nothing you can gain though except for trolling the school and looking at the DMs or taking over the account which is just

[golden dew]

Never underestimate the human brain

[simple portal]

idk you gained nothing except for being sadistic at that point lol

[golden dew]

You will be surprised

[simple portal]

yeah no i mean i know ppl would do that kind of thing but it seems like most ppl are in mutual agreement to not unethically hack eachother even though it is super easy, which i appreciate

maybe its cause they dont know or maybe they're not crazy

my HS had these chromebooks where they'd stay logged in for like 15 mins after closing them

and you could go into settings -> chrome -> passwords

then view ALL OF THEIR SAVED CHROME PASSWORDS LOL

i did it to my friend and told him about it but like seriously i could have had everything

everyone left their chromebooks at the charging station after school w/ no supervision

[golden dew]

Yeah. Those are some of my clients. But do you want to answer an email at 3am in the morning saying I can't login to my account because I forgot my password and it needs an admin to reset it

Because I have to do that shiet all the time

[simple portal]

wdym

do I?

ohh yeah

i see haha

yeah no its definitely bad to hack like rly bad

[golden dew]

So, that's also the point of have an AV and a firewall for your network

[simple portal]

i just get paranoid over how easy some of the opportunities have been because i realize if someone like me wanted to they copuld super easily just own my existence

you can intercept event text messages easily

[golden dew]

Anti-virus protects you from local computer viruses that could possibly invade your computer. The firewall would protect from outside invaders attacking your network

[simple portal]

with the right hardware

i believe (youd know more probably)

[golden dew]

It's not easy with the right protection

[simple portal]

yeah but physical proximity is where you can do anything

like if you are physically close to someone and their devices often

[golden dew]

I don't have a firewall on my home network but I know what to exactly look for when something is attacking my computer or network

[simple portal]

if they turn away and you happen to have the right hardware, install a keylogger on their device, intercept their messages, scrape their keys to intercept more later

[golden dew]

I have about some years of IT experience

[simple portal]

figure out iphone passcode just by looking at me when i enter it

[simple portal]

challenge accepted

jkjk lool

wait so is that why

you got blocked ahaha

[golden dew]

Yeah. But It was also very easy to find the solution just because I know what's on my network

You have to know what an attack looks like

On your network to be able to resolve it

[simple portal]

like what

network requests from unknown ips?

[golden dew]

From a technical standpoint.

[simple portal]

or a sudden spike in those at least^

or connection attempts on your open ports

[golden dew]

Well when you're on wifi and you can no longer send messages. It's a data problem.

[simple portal]

ahh

is that just DDosing

[golden dew]

However switching to Data on 5g cause no issues. I restarted just in case

Exactly

Baby stuff

[simple portal]

Data Harvesting: Even before quantum computers can break encryption, attackers might collect encrypted data now in preparation for future decryption once quantum technology matures. This is particularly relevant for sensitive data (e.g., government communications, corporate secrets) that may need long-term protection.

I should probably start stockpiling encrypted FBI and CIA data for hacking later so i can then sell it to china and other foreign adversaries

that was completely sarcastic btw ^ for the FBI AI model that is reviewing this

I'll stockpile chinese data

jk in reality i have no clue what i'd even be looking for and im sure more skilled ppl will deal with that probably

[golden dew]

😂😂

[simple portal]

YO

[golden dew]

I think it would all be just encrypted information in a Zip folder

[simple portal]

ive never seen such a

straightforward rejection

lol

[golden dew]

What it meant was: "You're going to jail sir"

[versed plaza]

So dream feature request... A way to scroll to top and bottom of the chat on mobile. The plus side though this year my thumb has grown to epic proportions I can deadlift with with just my thumb alone

I just tried playing through the fire and the flames with a single thumb and I 100% it

[jovial hill]

You have a button to scroll to the bottom of a thread, just refresh to get back to the top lol

[versed plaza]

On Android? I backed out because ..I placed trust in you

😛

I wish when you reopen a space it just flew down the 200 messages to the place you were last

If there's a button somewhere I can't find it anywhere on the interface

[wooden dirge]

is there a perplexity app on windows?

[simple portal]

this is the most true thing ive ever heard

[zealous kayak]

you don't lol

not on the app

only on the browser

main reason why I don't use the app

[versed plaza]

I've literally just been remoting into my PC using moonlight so that I can use complexity and the quality of life features like that button

[zealous kayak]

Firefox nightly

You can install custom extensions (Google a guide)

Complexity works just fine

[minor shard]

Is there anyway for iOS >.>

lol

[golden dew]

You can also just add a "." Then stop the response in the app. Even then, perpexlity sometimes does not follow up properly so you can respond to the prompt before the "."

But it'll scroll down automatically

[zealous kayak]

Nope lol

You can thank apple for that

Any browser on iOS is a safari reskin

[minor shard]

yeah its disgusting that they can do it too. Of all the things they get into legal trouble with the EU and they can't force them to allow other development of browsers?

😛

[zealous kayak]

Actually they have

Due to the DMA, they were forced to allow non-webkit browsers

[minor shard]

oh crap i forgot

thats only in the EU they did that for

i believe

[zealous kayak]

...But it's moot because they made it so that only applies in the EU yeah

So either browsers maintain two different versions (they won't) or it's all webkit still

[minor shard]

true. i find it funny that Apple went through the effort to allow it only in the EU instead of just everywhere.

[zealous kayak]

They are PETTY

[minor shard]

also find it very nefarious imo

[zealous kayak]

As hell

[minor shard]

yeah EXACTLY

largest smartphone seller and they pulling stuff like that is just wild

[versed plaza]

Ooh-da-lolly

[versed plaza]

Smart workaround kind of annoying but way quicker

[versed plaza]

This is why we need more development on local AI systems because as long as the same 4 companies can control tech innovation they're going to make everything a plod on purpose

Local llm and perplexity can get around amazon, google, reddit, all of the online cesspools

[golden dew]

You cooking up something @versed plaza

[versed plaza]

Yeah want to see?

It's too big to spam with

[golden dew]

Too late today but I'll hit you up sometime this week

[versed plaza]

Sure thing but I'm not sure if I'm ready to go to public with the idea so if we chat it's in confidentiality

[golden dew]

If you can find a way I can utilize my 4090 besides content creation. Im down

[versed plaza]

I kind of want to get a job haha

I can't use it idea to get a job if someone else announced it that week

[golden dew]

I've been looking into LLMs

[versed plaza]

What you have a 4090? That's way more powerful than what I have

Okay so if you want to get into the world of local llms I'll give you a cheat sheet

[golden dew]

Ahh.. people announce the same things all the time. The thing is, how can we beat the market

Yeah I have a 4090

[versed plaza]

First download Msty it makes it easy, it has web search, it lets you upload files to knowledge stacks, it lets you make prompt database, there is a browser where you can just click on different models and set them up right there

[golden dew]

14th gen K Processor

[versed plaza]

You have 24 GB of ram?

[golden dew]

Yeap 64gb ram

[versed plaza]

GPU ram I mean

[golden dew]

Maxed out basically

[versed plaza]

But what how much is your GPU itself 24?

The more that you can fit on just the graphics card the faster it goes

[golden dew]

Yeah. I'll send the link of model. Give me one sec

[versed plaza]

But I would definitely suggest trying out Misty. You can even use the perplexity API within it and it lets you explore ideas like rag, web search and different models with basic controls

[golden dew]

I thought I had a pic

[versed plaza]

That way you don't have to mess with python or docker or Linux or any of that stuff it also functions as a server so you can access the models using your phone or other front ends

You're 4090 is very capable, it could almost compare to Claude and some aspects. I'm pretty sure that it would run Qwen 2.5 72b which is a massive model

[golden dew]

Got it about a month ago

[versed plaza]

It doesn't say there but I think it's 24 gigs

[golden dew]

Yeah it is

[versed plaza]

Yeah so it's 24 that means that you can run 72b models at 4K quantization