#šŸ’¬ā”‚general

1 messages Ā· Page 36 of 1

agile jay
#

Yep, they have too much control

half venture
#

Anyway imma go sleep

agile jay
#

Night Eun

half venture
#

Go enjoy your eggs

agile jay
#

Yum

half venture
#

And your lead

agile jay
#

You'll probably overtake me by tomorrow...

ornate cloud
#

Hi, I have a question. Perplexity pro is the same as gpt4 but more cheaper?

agile jay
#

Both more or less $20

livid mantle
#

ya im sure gpt4 has a variety of ai models too

ornate cloud
#

And which is the difference?

agile jay
#

Perplexity gives you access to GPT4Turbo, GPT4V, Dalle3, Claude 3 Sonnet and Opus, and Claude Vision too.

livid mantle
#

despite the context window, you won't have down time in perplexity ai unlike others becoming unavailable due to high volume of people using a llm, only occassionaly down times for website maintenance

ornate cloud
#

But GPT4 is the same of OpenAI?

agile jay
livid mantle
#

šŸ¤–

stark notch
#

sorry, newbie here. where do you click on "generate image"?

weary crescent
# stark notch sorry, newbie here. where do you click on "generate image"?

Click new thread > type some stuff about what you want (or anything) > click focus > writing then when it generates its answer find generate image in the top right (the last of 3 in the list), then you can pick a style and let it pick what to generate or you can click the wrench for a custom prompt

agile jay
#

Yep, they really need to make image gen a lot easier.

weary crescent
#

and you don't have to do writing mode but if you do then it won't get sources or anything, just straight generate text

ornate cloud
#

Not working this code

south kindle
#

whos got the message link to the thread that gets shared for this question.

agile jay
#

Yep, they disabled promo codes.

#

Most likely because of the copy.ai mistake.

weary crescent
agile jay
south kindle
ornate cloud
agile jay
south kindle
#

i'm still annoyed at all the year subs that went out with the nothing phone that will just sit in a box and never get used.

weary crescent
livid mantle
#

The video is a thorough introduction to using Perplexity, an AI-powered search engine, in 2024. The presenter compares Perplexity to Google and ChatGPT, highlighting its strengths in providing up-to-date information with sources, handling Japanese language queries, and offering a pro version with additional features. The video includes practical demonstrations of using Perplexity for various types of searches and generating content, as well as tips for getting the most out of the tool.

agile jay
south kindle
#

we we would need to translate it. where's the elevenlabs plugin to automate that process

livid mantle
agile jay
#

Some Japanese video

livid mantle
#

japanese girl voice over in english

south kindle
#

we still need a link though

#

you just sent a screenshot of it. ha

agile jay
#

Better not be a rickrole...

#

ć€Œę™‚é–“ćŒćŖć„ć€ć€Œć‚¹ć‚­ćƒ«ćŒćŖć„ć€ćć‚“ćŖäŗŗć«ćŸć‚ć«äøøęŠ•ć’ć§ćć‚‹ćƒ–ćƒ­ć‚°ä»£č”Œć‚µćƒ¼ćƒ“ć‚¹ć€ŒHands+ć€ć‚’å§‹ć‚ć¾ć—ćŸć€‚ → https://bit.ly/blog-beginner

ę¤œē“¢ć‚Øćƒ³ć‚øćƒ³ć‹ć‚‰ć®é›†å®¢ć‚’å¢—ć‚„ć—ćŸć„ä¼ę„­ę§˜å‘ć‘ć®ć‚Ŗć‚¦ćƒ³ćƒ‰ćƒ”ćƒ‡ć‚£ć‚¢ē«‹ć”äøŠć’ć‚µćƒ¼ćƒ“ć‚¹ćÆć“ć”ć‚‰ → https://bit.ly/owned-media

6,700äŗŗä»„äøŠćŒę‰€å±žć™ć‚‹AIć‚’å­¦ć¹ć‚‹ē„”ę–™ć‚³ćƒŸćƒ„ćƒ‹ćƒ†ć‚£ć€ŒAIćƒ©ćƒœć€ļ¼šhttps://note.com/merilinc/n/n054c1f948e72

ęœ¬ę°—ć§ćƒ–ćƒ­ć‚°ć§å­¦ć³ćŸć„äŗŗć®ćŸć‚ć®ē„”ę–™ćƒ”ćƒ¼ćƒ«č¬›åŗ§ļ¼šhttps://affi-note.com/online_mail_course?blog_nm=youtube_20240404

åˆč‘—ę›øć€Œćƒ–ćƒ­ć‚°ćƒ©ć‚¤ćƒ†ć‚£ćƒ³ć‚°ć®ę•™ē§‘ę›øć€ļ¼š...

ā–¶ Play video
south kindle
#

you must have a plugin running doing the translation? still in Japanese

agile jay
#

Anyway, cya guys later, need to get ready to leave to the airport.

south kindle
#

have a safe flight!

agile jay
#

Thanks

stark notch
#

thanks

weary crescent
sullen ether
#

@long sierra whats the core tech behind the searching of information in perplexity ai?

south kindle
#

I regret nothing

south kindle
#

That’s a humorous phrase not a threat. FYI.

#

Maybe they will explain I don’t know. My gut reaction is they would want to keep some things private for competitive reasons.

sullen ether
#

Sonar model's time to first token is 2.5 seconds, mine is 2

#

"average"

south kindle
#

So what’s the intention in asking then? If you already have a better system?

sullen ether
#

Just because i wanted to know if i was lacking behind in some sort

#

Like the maps one

south kindle
#

If you are trying to steal something you’re doing it with the grace of an elephant. Ha. All questions are fair and good. I stand behind that. We can see what they say. Just be aware if they know what you’re working on, they likely wouldn’t want to help improve a competing product. I’d assume they could do a high level overview. But that’s not my place or domain to say. just replying with my gut reaction to it.

tranquil orchidBOT
sullen ether
#

I have made my own algos for all the things

#

And everything i could do in a month

#

Ig they dont have a copyright over the developement of search engine ai integration

tranquil orchidBOT
south kindle
#

was your platform Omniplex? out of curiosty?

sullen ether
silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 1 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @south kindle

south kindle
# sullen ether nope

just double checking. i'm off to sleep since its 1am. good luck on your stuff! I asked about the other one because the person behind it seemed like the most arrogant rude person that was entirely building his platform essentially for spite against PPLX. that's a terrible use of someones time when they could use their skills to build something not created yet.

#

you do you though. I don't get anything from attempting to defend PPLX, just a user that's tested out other platforms extensively and always return back to PPLX.

south kindle
#

i doubt that guy is spilling the beans on his stuff either. He was posting on one of the main ai subreddits. its somewhere in this chat if you do a search. from like a week or two ago.

sullen ether
#

HMm

south kindle
#
#

This is what we built that wordware template out for. interesting.

wild quest
#

what is the pricing of sonar-medium-chat

south kindle
#

https://youtu.be/ADyaGQza8pI?si=otoajSewAMrRC3x4 - this was also a think I missed

Join host Craig Smith on episode #175 of Eye on AI as he engages in an enlightening conversation with Aravind Srinivas, co-founder and CEO of Perplexity AI.

In this episode, Aravind delves into the intricacies of Perplexity AI, a groundbreaking conversational answer engine designed to redefine the landscape of online search.

Discover how Perp...

ā–¶ Play video
wraith crow
tame current
#

@wraith crow

#

^

wraith crow
# tame current <@736698531997548556>

That doesn’t get sent to the dev team. If an answer if incorrect or inaccurate you can report it by clicking on the flag icon at the bottom of the answer @eternal saddle

vocal flint
#

What does 'Error in processing query.' means? Is this the limit for a large topic?

#

bug?

vocal flint
#

Nope

#

I only assume that the topic was too long that it could not handle it anymore

serene sand
orchid forum
#

Hi

lethal wyvern
#

Hello, I'm a user of the pro version of perplexity, I could ask how you create images in the perplexity app every time he tells me that he can't create some images But that it's just text-based. Thank you

hallow flume
#

你还

#

你儽

#

who is napolon

serene sand
lunar ivy
#

Hi , is anyone know how to delete a file after upload?When i in View Sources window , select the any file or all file and delete ,the chat will rewrite , but the Sources Files still there .

wraith crow
lunar ivy
ornate cloud
#

Hi, when the disccount codes will be back??

jovial mantle
#

They are already

ornate cloud
#

This code is for free month

jovial mantle
#

that one has expired, you can get the 10$ off one

ornate cloud
agile jay
#

Any other person can send you it.

jovial mantle
agile jay
#

Those are just rederral codes

jovial mantle
#

it's 10$ off

agile jay
#

Yep, that's my referal code, does the same thing

#

Guessing they fixed the copy.ai stuff, if promo codes are back

ornate cloud
#

And the free month code has expired?

agile jay
#

Most likely they wiped most of the codes when fixing the issue.

jovial mantle
#

I think it worked only from september to february

gray lava
#

hey question. why does perplexity always ask a follow up question? often its unnecessary and the answer to its question is in my prompt. is there a way to fix this?

agile jay
#

If you don't want questions

gray lava
#

i want claude opus... that's why i got pro. is there no way around it?

#

seems silly

agile jay
#

The pro button there...

#

it used to be called copilot

#

it's how you toggle on and off questions

#

You will still be using the same model.

ornate cloud
#

I have a question, whit this AI can I generate images?

agile jay
#

Yep, with pro

wraith crow
gray lava
#

ohhhh

#

ok that is very helpful

#

thanks... wasn't clear to me

obtuse hatch
#

does anyone know the answer

#

I tried searching but I didn't know what specific keywords to add

#

I wanna try and find 2024 deny list phrases for LLMs to not act how they should

agile jay
#

That's a deny list for the prompt, not the output

ornate cloud
#

The free version is gpt 3.5?

agile jay
ornate cloud
#

And the gpt4 is unlimited?

#

Because on chatGPT, gpt4, only I can do 40 message by 3 hours

agile jay
#

600 requests a day

#

For all models, they share the same 600 possible requests.

silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 4 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @keen solstice
• @ornate cloud
• @timid marsh
• @agile jay

ornate cloud
#

Nice!

agile jay
#

So you can choose claude Opus etc

ornate cloud
agile jay
#

Or GPT4Turbo

#

Just an egg for the event

ornate cloud
agile jay
#

Probably Claude Opus

ornate cloud
#

Btw Im spanish, any problem with the AI if I use spanish language?

agile jay
#

Probably not, since spanish is pretty popular

ornate cloud
ornate cloud
agile jay
#

Did you have problems with ChatGPT Plus?

ornate cloud
agile jay
#

If not, you shouldn't have problems with these too.

agile jay
#

Which ends on Sunday

#

Top 3 get a month free

ornate cloud
#

Lol

#

@agile jay

#

For example, I ask on spanish ang the AI reply me with english

agile jay
ornate cloud
#

šŸ¤”

agile jay
#

You're on the free mode, so most likely using the 3.5Turbo finetune which is likely trained on only/mostly english examples...

#

Mine is using Claude Opus

ornate cloud
#

Ahhh okayy

agile jay
#

Anway, cya later. I'm on holiday so gotta take a break.

#

Plus Eun will be pissed...

#

Need to give her a chance.

ornate cloud
fluid mauve
ornate cloud
#

I can't buy pro, what can I do?

#

When I press "Get Started" ir returns me to the main AI page

fluid mauve
compact portal
#

Does perplexity sonar model use mistral or what

half venture
#

It's a fine tuned version of mistral probably

compact portal
#

How much does fine tuning a model even cost

half venture
#

A lot actually

#

Probably in the range of millions

compact portal
#

Perplexity has that kind of money ?

half venture
#

Not perplexity but Amazon sure does

#

And anthropic seems to be in a league of its own

#

I don't know how they are getting the funding

compact portal
#

Google and Amazon both invested in anthropic I think

fluid mauve
#

Just look at stability.AI they have burned through 100 million USD

half venture
#

Yeah

#

But it's a small price

#

For salvation

ornate cloud
#

I can't buy :(

fluid mauve
#

well it is if you can pay your bills

#

where on the globe are you @ornate cloud. Not in a blacklisted country?

half venture
#

I want stable diffusion 3 to be open sourced so bad

fluid mauve
#

hmm, thats def ok. wierd you cant sign up#

ornate cloud
#

Yesterday the pay page worked for me

#

And today not working

compact portal
wraith crow
half venture
#

My conspiracy theory is some authorities or some venture firms thought open sourcing stable diffusion 3 before elections is a bad move

fluid mauve
#

@half venture I am running SDXL locally here. its kickass and im glad i dont need to p[ay for render time. well apart from what i spent on the PC and 4090 graphics card

half venture
fluid mauve
#

@half venture I know not what you spoeak off šŸ˜›

half venture
#

Microsoft then sweeped in and poached

fluid mauve
#

i used to libe in that "indirewct means" arena. i know what your hinting at

half venture
ornate cloud
#

Nop

half venture
#

Use Firefox

fluid mauve
#

used too, not any more. "sometimes the quickest way to the outcome you want, is by a circticious path"

ornate cloud
half venture
#

Corporate world is rough

fluid mauve
#

yeah. it is,

half venture
#

Same thing happened in china
Some open source models were being developed by some small firm

ornate cloud
silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 2 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @half venture
• @keen solstice

half venture
#

These models will not be open sourced I have a feeling

half venture
fluid mauve
#

probably not. IKt has got to suck being a dev in china. all those brains but no output before going through the state

ornate cloud
half venture
fluid mauve
#

it may be that the subscription page is down for maintenence and there is a redirect. but idf have thought we would have heard of it

half venture
#

Try the Android app

#

Or iOS app

#

If you want to purchase a subscription

#

Or something

ornate cloud
half venture
#

Well

#

Rip

compact portal
#

What do you guys mean by indirect means

fluid mauve
#

I am trying to remember teh 90's Film where they basicaly showed a software company 'accuiring' software through 'indirect means' i.e. video cameras in peoples garages or where they were developing. it was definitly a thinly vielrd look at Msoft

half venture
#

And etc etc

wraith crow
# ornate cloud

Seems like something is blocking the authentication request. Could you try it on your mobile browser. An extension could be the cause

compact portal
#

I don't understand

fluid mauve
half venture
# compact portal I don't understand

All companies are within the rule of law
The rule of law allows for pressure
The company if it's not profitable can be susceptible to outside market pressures

half venture
#

And the government can nudge subtly

#

For example Joe Biden can say : ooooh we support open source as long as it's harmless

half venture
#

Make sense now ?

compact portal
#

Yeah

#

So basically companies if not profitable are vulnerable

half venture
#

Yep

fluid mauve
#

100% if they arte publicly owned, to a lesser extent if private

half venture
#

There are ways governments can make there life miserable

#

Just look at China

fluid mauve
#

send in the 'regulator'

near prism
#

Hi, I just subscribed to Pro, left the Discord server and clicked on the "Pro Discord" on Perplexity settings but I still can't access the Pro channels.

minor shard
#

Anyone on the east coast feel that earthquake? šŸ‘€

spiral briar
#

.

indigo imp
#

Hey

livid mantle
indigo imp
#

How can i access pro channels ?

half venture
#

What scale

compact portal
#

Quick question does Microsoft fund perplexity?

#

Do they have any stake

nova abyss
nova abyss
half venture
#

I think not

#

Google and Microsoft both have there own search engines

#

And they are in competition with each other

#

So I don't think so

#

Perplexity however does host and use services on azure

nova abyss
half venture
#

Yep āœ”ļø

#

In my mind logically I feel like a future perplexity x anthropic working together

#

Is a scenerio thats possible

half venture
#

It does anthropic seems to be placing itself to be the openai competitor

#

And perplexity is placing itself to be the Google competitor

nova abyss
wraith crow
half venture
indigo imp
nova abyss
half venture
#

Nobody likes a giant monopoly especially monopolies hating monopolies

indigo imp
#

not sure why i cant

half venture
#

I expect a lot of monopoly vs monopoly going on

silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 3 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @keen solstice
• @compact portal
• @half venture

nova abyss
indigo imp
compact portal
#

But at the end of the day all of it comes down to Infrastructure and compute no ?

#

No matter what compute will always be the thing no ?

nova abyss
half venture
#

Yeah

compact portal
#

Compute seems to be the thing sam altman keeps frustrated about no

#

Chatgpt can only offer 40 messages 3 hours

#

Meanwhile Microsoft with copilot is offering gpt 4 at worldwide scale

#

For free

half venture
#

Yeah

#

That's also true

#

Microsoft infrastructure and compute with azure

#

Is probably the best in the world

ornate cloud
#

Why when I want to buy the pro, redirects to me to the main AI prompt page?

compact portal
half venture
#

No

#

Azure is pretty much more refined by now

#

For corporate uses

#

Aws is still better for open source stuff tho

nova abyss
minor shard
half venture
#

Amazon Web Services (AWS) had a 31% market share in the worldwide cloud infrastructure market in the fourth quarter of 2023. This was a 2-point share decrease from the 33% market share AWS had in the fourth quarter of 2022. However, AWS still has the highest market share among the top 10 cloud providers, followed by Microsoft Azure (23%) and Google Cloud (10%

nova abyss
half venture
#

But azure is increasingly catching up slowly

#

And I want it to happen

#

Because more competition is good

nova abyss
#

Same here. But Because its just so pleaseant in my opinion for me haha. Just the blue on that Ui. So crisp.

half venture
#

Crisp indeed

#

Is Google cloud more profitable than aws or azure tho

#

Don't they use their own tpus

#

I assume it must lead to more efficiency since it's in house

errant pivot
#

Hello people!

#

Any thoughts on the new Apple 3b model?

half venture
#

It's good but niche

#

Narrow ai

nova abyss
half venture
#

But it's so good

#

And no one comes even close

#

😭

nova abyss
#

OpenGL šŸ˜‚

half venture
#

šŸ’€

nova abyss
#

JK not even close

half venture
#

Nvidia truly

#

Cooked with cuda

#

It's their golden egg

nova abyss
#

Jensen Huang

half venture
#

It just works - nvidia.

#

That's their magic

#

It just works

compact portal
#

Or competitor to openai

half venture
#

I think they are training there own llm

#

However it will be for Amazon use cases

#

And it will not be for let's say

#

Chatting purposes

#

Since Amazon doesn't care about that

#

And they already invested 3 billion dollars into anthropic

#

And perplexity is largely funded by Amazon

#

As well

#

So they will do there own thing

#

On there own terms

compact portal
#

I see

#

Doesnt that mean then that this LLM race is actually just a cloud service providers competition disguised under the brand name ; AI

half venture
#

Yes lmao šŸ˜‚

compact portal
#

šŸ¤”

half venture
#

Cloud service is the future

#

Once latency is cracked

#

And latency is improved

silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 3 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @keen solstice
• @half venture
• @compact portal

half venture
#

Can someone check the leaderboard

silent magnetBOT
#
Perplexity
Local user leaderboard

#1 | eun08000 | 24
#2 | codelicious | 23
#3 | mpreal | 20
#4 | _paradroid | 17
#5 | brknclock1215 | 13
#6 | epic.tritone | 12
#7 | jawnze | 9
#8 | 13376666666666666666666666666669 | 5
#9 | icelavaman | 4
#9 | skullcrushercmd | 4

wraith crow
#

šŸ‘€

half venture
#

YESSSSSS that sweet sweet #1 spot

#

Finally

#

Delicious

#

Eggtastic

trail lava
#

Hey does anyone know the context length of gpt 4 turbo in the app

#

Vs claude opus

compact portal
#

They are the same I think

#

32k

trail lava
#

Is there any official comment on thsf

#

That

#

Context length

compact portal
#

I think some reddit comments

#

Thats about it

trail lava
#

Also the android app in perplexity only uses Google voice

#

Does perplexity not use whisper ai

#

From openai

#

In official website no text to speech either

compact portal
#

Yeah

#

I think they are working on it

lone citrus
#

Wait guys is this true

compact portal
#

Lmao

trail lava
#

That's rough they removed it šŸ˜•

sweet jasper
#

Companies exist to serve Stakeholders

#

And stakeholders love money

#

Amazon big shareholder

compact portal
#

Agreed

#

It's a shame tho

trail lava
#

Also notice how apple recently has been saying more and more ai buzzwords

#

And apple never says ai

#

But now apple seems to have bitten the bullet

compact portal
#

There stocks are tanking

#

Microsoft overtook them

#

Us government is screwing them

#

China is currently in process of replacing apple with huawei

#

Yeah they are getting desperate

#

No more leader of the market bs

#

It was long overdue

trail lava
#

Yeah apple had gotten so stale

#

That it hurt my soul

#

Apple vision is cool

#

But it's just.... too expensive

#

And most users complain of headaches

compact portal
#

I actually tried the vision

#

It wasn't bad

#

But not worth the price

#

Still too early

#

Expect by 2030

#

For it to get better

#

And much more glass like

trail lava
#

Yeah apple needs to miniaturize it more

#

Less heavy

#

More light

#

Smaller

#

More pseudo glasses like

compact portal
#

Not even glasses

#

Just lighter

#

It's too heavy

#

Thats it that's all they need to

#

Do

#

Just make it lighter

trail lava
#

I disagree the form factor seems jank

#

No one will wear it and go outside

#

It will look weird

compact portal
#

Eh yu would be surprised

#

A lot of people would wear it imo

trail lava
#

It won't be stylish

compact portal
#

It is dystopia

#

Dystopian

#

Which is a style

trail lava
#

Hm

#

Still i think a apple glass would do better

#

But that form factor is too restrictive I guess

compact portal
#

It is

#

Which is why I think VR is OK

#

As long as it gets the job done

#

All is worth it

silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 4 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @keen solstice
• @half venture
• @trail lava
• @compact portal

silent magnetBOT
#
Perplexity
Local user leaderboard

#1 | eun08000 | 25
#2 | codelicious | 23
#3 | mpreal | 21
#4 | _paradroid | 17
#5 | brknclock1215 | 13
#6 | epic.tritone | 12
#7 | jawnze | 9
#8 | 13376666666666666666666666666669 | 5
#9 | icelavaman | 4
#9 | samnixnova420 | 4

weary crescent
#

This is why I prefer google sometimes. Is there a way to quickly switch between them as default browser?

#

or have different default models based on which browser I'm using? (I use the unofficial app for windows)

finite badger
weary crescent
finite badger
#

Correct, Arc for Windows has not implemented the search engine parts of the settings yet

#

It works on Arc on Mac so hopefully it'll come to Arc for Windows soon

weary crescent
#

I guess for now it's manual switch lol

finite badger
#

On Arc for Windows, I set Google as default, pin Perplexity, and then use Ctrl+(index of the Perplexity pin)=>Ctrl+I to bring up the Perplexity query box

weary crescent
#

you know of a way to get to extensions faster on arc? it's annoying going through the menu and having to find it every time

finite badger
#

For the ones I use the most, I go to arc://extensions/, Details on the extension I want, and enable Pin to toolbar

#

This pins the ones I care most about to the top right of the browser

weary crescent
#

fellow bitwarden user šŸ”„
That's exactly what I needed, thanks tons

#

when I try to change the vault timeout, it doesn't open the dropdown but only when using arc. You experience this?

finite badger
weary crescent
# finite badger Huh, appears to be an Arc on Windows bug

figured as much. Love the browser but man lots of random bugs like this. I've had to deal with setting the timeout action to pin and doing that instead of keeping it unlocked (I just keep unimportant passwords in one vault, then for important stuff I have a separate one)

finite badger
#

Arc on Windows is def very beta

minor shard
hard sedge
#

anyone can plz tell me API need update pro?if i update pro,API is free?

raven turtle
#

Hey Guys. I have started a Podcast that discusses the intersection between AI and HI. We have some very mind opening topics.. Please take a listen, like, and subscribe. We mention Perplexity šŸ˜‰
https://www.youtube.com/@InfiniteIntellectPodcast

candid otter
#

why can you not share files with perplexity AI?

merry rain
#

These show as No Access for me

wraith crow
ripe void
#

Is arc genuinely good or should i stay with firefox

signal hamlet
half venture
#

I hate Microsoft

#

Stop forcing updates on me

#

For the last 10 years man

rapid cape
#

I can’t view the new story format on my iOS app yet (pro user, canada) - Is there a phased roll out or am I missing something?

agile jay
#

Wow @half venture, you finally overtook me.

half venture
#

Hahaha

#

Yes I did

#

Good luck getting it back

agile jay
#

I'm on holiday, so unlikely.

half venture
#

Ah

rapid cape
half venture
#

Fair enough

rapid cape
half venture
agile jay
#

Suno is already so good.

half venture
#

Mind you Jimmy still says that openai has something better in store

agile jay
#

Yep, I know from my AI server

half venture
#

Wait huh

#

What do you know

agile jay
#

I think it's v2

agile jay
#

Yep, likely a lot earlier than GPT4.5/5

#

I sent you an invite btw.

#

Should probably add a few other good people from the this server.

kindred folio
agile jay
kindred folio
agile jay
#

Basically the voice thing they released would be similar to 11 labs, while jukebox would be similar to Suno.

#

I'll send you a song

#

The main app is here though, you can scroll through the trending section.

weary plank
#

Guys, for the AI ​​to improve, do I have to send more prompts?

half venture
#

What do you mean

weary plank
#

I tried to use the ones they sent me for searches and research and put them in the AI ​​message box but I didn't really understand if that would really help in my searches

half venture
#

I am confused what are you searching for

#

And what prompts

silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 2 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @half venture
• @keen solstice

half venture
#

Wait code didn't get the egg ?

weary plank
agile jay
worn river
agile jay
#

Every hour I can easily get a years worth of perplexity, so it's more for fun.

half venture
#

Lmao true

#

I will not get eggs either then

#

Wait for you to catch up

agile jay
#

Lol, I'm on holiday, so unlikely I'll be around to pick them up

weary plank
# half venture I am confused what are you searching for

For example, I need to do academic research in the health area such as "Krebs cycle", so I would need AI to tell me what it is, how it works, etc. about the Krebs cycle, without errors and talk to me with sources of scientific articles, understand?

agile jay
#

Might get one of my employees to do it for a bonus.

half venture
#

Yeah it should do that

weary plank
#

Then a prompt, I don't know what it said to the AI, it responds to me completely and as if it were a university professor, but I don't know if there is a specific command for that.

agile jay
half venture
#

Yeah just go the profile

agile jay
#

Act like a university professor, here's my question etc

half venture
#

And type in the prompt there for it

weary plank
#

But I wanted to know if there was a command that had some criteria to make the search more specific, or is it just me saying it and that's it?

agile jay
#

Pretty much the easiest way is just you to say it.

#

LLM's are probability machines, so your input largely effects the possible outputs.

weary plank
#

ok

agile jay
ornate cloud
#

Why Perplexity (free) sometimes reply me in english when I speak to it in spanish?

agile jay
ornate cloud
#

Nop, its in spanish

agile jay
#

The finetune?

ornate cloud
agile jay
#

Yep, but the model being used was finetuned with english examples.

ornate cloud
#

The PRO models are the same with the response language?

agile jay
#

Nope, since they are not finetuned

#

Didn't you send a example yesterday of a comparison of something like Angler JS and React or something?

agile jay
#

Pretty sure I explained this yesterday, lol

ornate cloud
kindred folio
#

i listened to the samples but i was too lazy to create an account šŸ’€

agile jay
#

Those aren't samples, they are songs made by other users.

kindred folio
agile jay
kindred folio
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

agile jay
#

you can listen without logging in

kindred folio
#

oh ok

agile jay
glass ibex
#

That new Discover interface kinda makes me anxious šŸ˜… it's very in your face. What was wrong with the old i/f?
I preferred personally to be able to see the latest few stories at a a glance. Now 50% of the screen is an image and i have to flip through all.. wondering what the logic is here.. is it prepping for a follow-up of some additional feature?

glass ibex
agile jay
#

Just get something like bluecord then, if you're on android

glass ibex
agile jay
glass ibex
#

I'm not šŸ˜„ sorry wasn't clear.. I'm talking about the Perplexity app

ornate cloud
#

The Image generator is good like DALL-E?

agile jay
ornate cloud
#

Is the same?

agile jay
#

Yep, just the API version

ornate cloud
#

Ah, but I don't want the API version

#

I want the web version

agile jay
#

?

#

The only difference is gonna be the system message.

ornate cloud
#

?

agile jay
ornate cloud
#

Yeah, I want the UI

agile jay
#

When I said the API version, I mean that perplexity is using the openai API.

#

You are still accessing it through the perplexity UI.

ornate cloud
#

Ahhhh

#

Okayy, nice

agile jay
#

I use perplexity a lot more than GPTPlus and Claude Pro.

compact portal
#

Tried claude pro on official website

#

Uploaded a file

#

It immediately says 10 messages left

#

Brutal

#

Perplexity is much better

silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 1 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @agile jay

dawn junco
#

Anyone have any recommendations for low-memory intensive browsers?

agile jay
#

Probably something like seamonkey, which is an optimized fork of firefox.

dawn junco
#

I’ve heard it’s hard to use, but that was on my list for sure.

#

Oh it’s not what I thought it was at all lol

agile jay
#

It depends how efficient you want to go.

dawn junco
#

It seems cool but man It would be hard getting past that UI lmao

#

I’ll try it out for a few weeks thanks for the suggestion

agile jay
#

You could also get a fork of a normal browser which has a lot of settings that are not needed disabled.

weary crescent
#

Any of the models in this list close to gpt4/opus?

honest basin
#

nope

#

best one is claude 3 haiku

#

actually haiku is probably comparable to gpt-4 in some cases

agile jay
#

dbrx is probably the best one there

honest basin
#

havent tried it

agile jay
#

Haiku is around GPT3.5 level

weary crescent
#

and then gemma is google's model for locally running on phones right?

agile jay
#

Yep, it's their opensource model, but most likely they'll use Gemini nano for their phones.

honest basin
#

yeah

weary crescent
#

ah cool

#

played around with gemma at all?

dawn junco
#

Anyone know if librewolf is worthwhile? it’s a fork of Firefox

honest basin
#

depends

#

if you want security its gonna be the best

#

besides tor but tor is slow

#

if you want speed thorium is gonna be the best or anything else based on chromium

agile jay
#

I use thorium myself

#

They should really add an updater, lol

dawn junco
#

Im function with a pretty bad laptop rn, so memory usage is a pretty big priority

agile jay
#

How bad is pretty bad?

dawn junco
#

I just updated it I’ll check the specs when it’s done

sage lily
weary crescent
#

People will hate on anything haha. Personally Bard was pretty good when it came out but they nerfed the hell out of it when it changed to gemini, even on gemini ultra it sucked. I would ask for destinations near me (specifying nashville) and it would give places 3, 4 hours away.

south kindle
south kindle
scarlet schooner
#

Gemini ultra sucks. Cant even follow simple instruction well as if it is ignoring it.

For example: i tell opus/gpt4 this prompt "summarize the following in detail with proper formatting" + the youtube transcript i want to summarize

These models do proper formatting on their summarization

Meanwhile gemini advanced: nah bro, enjoy some more paragraphs

#

Definitely not gonna continue paying google one after the free trial

south kindle
#

just realized I haven't gone for a restart in over 2 days. ha.

agile jay
#

If it's a PC, that's pretty normal

south kindle
#

I just use sleep 99% of the time unless i'm dropping frames badly in Overwatch 2/Tarkov Arena or just did some driver updates. also a desktop so that works out easier to use sleep and keep it powered and all that.

dawn junco
#

It’s got 4gb of ram, which would be fine for what I usually use it for but I do think there is something wrong with it, maybe the fans

opaque stump
#

I don’t turn my pc off unless it’s undergoing updates.

#

It also functions as my Plex server so it can’t have too much downtime

south kindle
#

4gb was standard in 2010-2017. then it jumped to 8, and then 16. now 32 seems to be the norm on beefer systems.

south kindle
#

lol

dawn junco
#

But yeah it has a coughing fit with 6 or more chrome tabs

agile jay
#

Does it also take ages to load stuff?

south kindle
#

That's to be expected with Chrome sadly. i know Opera and edge have a built in "sleep tabs" mode where idle tabs won't use RAM.

dawn junco
agile jay
#

so just a ram problem?

agile jay
#

Does your device have replaceable RAM?

dawn junco
#

Not sure, should be new enough to have it

south kindle
#

what kind of laptop?

#

hit us with a product id

agile jay
#

You should buy more ram then.

south kindle
#

laptop ram specifically. make sure it's compatible before you buy it.

agile jay
#

Really all modern laptops should use a m.2 drive.

#

Super small and powerful

dawn junco
#

I think there might be more wrong with it in general, it should not be using 80% of ram just running task manager if I’m interpreting it right.

south kindle
#

M.2's are the future. let me just restart my PC in under 15 seconds.

agile jay
#

Yep, pretty sure they are throttled by CPUs nowadays.

south kindle
opaque stump
#

I use an nvme for my Plex cache folder, makes browsing the library a dream lol

agile jay
#

Have to wait for CPU clock cycles to catch up.

#

Yep, for my server its all m.2s

dawn junco
south kindle
#

W10 or W11?

dawn junco
#

11

agile jay
#

Their only downside is the price difference to HDD and tapes.

south kindle
#

it could be 11 using too much as well.

silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 3 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @agile jay
• @south kindle
• @opaque stump

south kindle
#

pretty sure the recomended RAM is 8 or 16 for W11

#

aka downgrading to W10 may help.

opaque stump
#

32 should be standard nowadays

dawn junco
#

Why did it download itself than??

south kindle
#

should be. ha. or at least 16

opaque stump
#

I’m getting the new MacBook Air and it maxes out at 24

agile jay
#

Or running a debloater.

#

I would wait for the Qualcomm chips.

#

A few months away.

south kindle
foggy whale
#

someone say RAM and storage?

opaque stump
#

I don’t mind 11.

#

It’s perfectly fine

#

At this point

south kindle
#

same. it grew on me quickly. aside from the extra steps to get to the old control panel/network devices/etc.

agile jay
#

One of my problems with windows is whose idea was it to bind the file manager with settings and everything else...

south kindle
#

I know but my dumb brain tries to go the old way with typing it into search like a boomer.

foggy whale
#

win11 might have me just for native 7z support

opaque stump
#

Windows is just janky in general. Click around and next thing you know you’re opening up a GUI from W95 era

foggy whale
#

not as a daily driver mind you...just to get me off win10

agile jay
#

Oh do they include 7z now?

opaque stump
#

The code debt must be insane

dawn junco
#

My favorite part of windows is that is hides a lot of useful settings behind UI they haven’t updated since 2008 and their super hard to find

agile jay
#

Yep, there's a lot of stuff which should be changed.

#

Such as getting rid of registries.

south kindle
#

why do I need to right click a file and hit "more options" to get to the settings I want. why microsoft?

agile jay
foggy whale
#

@dawn junco unfortunately your problem's not going to be the browser but how much RAM modern websites eat up regardless of what browswer you're using. Look for resources on running modern stuff on really old computers. Like go see what the community that's still operating old Mac Pros as windows machines do these days kind of thing.

opaque stump
#

I got a license key for Pro for $15 and it’s worth it for the extra settings without fiddling too much

#

Like being able to stop automatic updates and reboots

#

How asinine that you can’t disable that on the standard edition lol

agile jay
#

Oh, people pay for windows keys?

opaque stump
#

$15

agile jay
#

$0

opaque stump
#

Yea. There’s fairly easy ways to unlock it for free but I didn’t care to bother enough.

agile jay
#

I heard rumors of windows going full subscription mode...

#

For the next version.

opaque stump
#

I only use it because I don’t really have a choice. My personal OS is MacOS. But I have a 2011 MacBook Air running Linux Mint perfectly

#

Linux breathes new life to old hardware

south kindle
#

fun story: my key in use was from Windows 8 in 2010 (from a college program that gave free upgrades thur MSDN) that I've used to upgrade along the way. sidenote: also had a tech job where they told me to go buy W10 licenses. but i did it on my own microsoft account by accident. so i also have like 10 extra W10 keys...

opaque stump
#

Gotta love it

agile jay
#

Mint is good for people migration from windows.

#

But Linux isn't mature enough, as an ecosystem.

weary crescent
agile jay
#

Simply has too many options etc.

agile jay
#

Just creates a random code

#

Windows has too much feature creep imo. I think the AI AGI is probably when Linux wins.

#

Especially when models are good enough to just generate software on demand.

foggy whale
agile jay
#

It will be an interesting time.

#

Pretty sure at some point an LLM becomes a perfect compiler.

foggy whale
#

i mean, it's gotten a lot better don't get me wrong. But I still fire up the GUI in Kali and I"m like...whoa this is janky still

#

non GUI stuff is a totally different story obviously

agile jay
foggy whale
#

totally fair too

agile jay
#

What percentage of the Linux user base deal with design, lol?

foggy whale
#

so i'm also a photographer and any time one of my neckbeard open source people mentions Darktable i'm like "ew, what? No look at it"

agile jay
#

Pretty sure it's just webdev which carries the whole UI space.

foggy whale
#

i won a chromebook a while back, nice one, but i had no reason for a chromebook so I got Kali mostly running on it locally. Just beat myself up trying to get the GUI running and then was like, wait...all i need a GUI for is a web browser and Chrome is here so we're good. I guess electron makes that more realistic

agile jay
compact portal
#

Quick question is youtube profitable ?

agile jay
#

Yep

compact portal
#

How so

#

Last time I checked they were not

agile jay
#

What do you think all the ads are for?

south kindle
#

Youtube shits money.

foggy whale
#

it makes you question your life choices when you think about it for not long at all

compact portal
#

Still tho the infrastructure for hosting all that

agile jay
#

YouTube makes around 7B a quarter

compact portal
#

Must be expensive

south kindle
#

look up how much money Steam makes. they far surpass even Apple. last I checked their employees are making liek 40% more than higher up apple employees. <this was entirely from a recent Wan Show as a topic>

compact portal
#

I remember back in the day youtube was not profitable

agile jay
silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 5 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @compact portal
• @south kindle
• @agile jay
• @half venture
• @foggy whale

compact portal
#

Will LLM have the same thing

agile jay
compact portal
#

Become cheaper

#

Widely available

#

Have the infrastructure built

agile jay
#

Yep, already is.

south kindle
#

yup.

foggy whale
#

most certainly

compact portal
#

The infrastructure is not there yet

#

I fee

#

Feel

south kindle
#

data centers are catching up. still build on 2022 standards.

agile jay
#

You can use GPT-3.5 and Gemini 1 pro already for free right?

#

And Claude 3 Sonnet

compact portal
#

Gpt 4

#

Coilot

#

Coilot

foggy whale
#

Whisper runs locally right now

agile jay
#

Copilot

compact portal
#

Yeah

#

If you turn off search it's basucally gpt 4

#

A lobotomized gpt 4

agile jay
#

Depends on the mode

compact portal
#

Precise

agile jay
#

And the margins they have are pretty high too.

#

On their frontier models.

half venture
#

How was Microsoft able to afford giving gpt 4 for free worldwide

#

Aren't they losing a lot of money

#

Ever since February

#

Like 2023

south kindle
#

they have money to lose though if it means adoption.

half venture
#

How does Microsoft fail so much

cobalt shard
#

"first ones free then you need to pay"

half venture
#

And still be worth trillions

cobalt shard
#

Get them hooked and then they'll have to pay once they can't stop using it

south kindle
#

Azure, 365, cloud for businesses is how.

agile jay
#

GPT4 will probably stay free

cobalt shard
#

yep yep

south kindle
#

seats for licensing can cost like 50 an employee per month. times that by 1000 people.

agile jay
#

Enterprise is where the money's at.

half venture
agile jay
half venture
#

Microsoft still has the best

#

Latency and fastest gpt 4 speeds

#

Out there

agile jay
#

Yep, because of their compute.

half venture
#

Azure also is more profitable than even AWS

agile jay
#

Yep, because it costs more, lol

half venture
#

Microsoft has successfully diversified it's portfolio

#

Meta has not

#

I wonder what meta strategy is

agile jay
#

They are still working on legs

half venture
#

In the future

south kindle
#

microsoft also has like 25 years on Meta to be fair.

agile jay
#

Meta is likely to be fine

half venture
agile jay
half venture
#

Instagram is probably the thing saving them rn

agile jay
#

It's mostly their great ad service.

#

For businesses.

#

Don't think that even Google competes on how targeted the ads can be.

half venture
#

Dystopian ads tho

#

I just wish meta open sources llama 3 soon

agile jay
#

There gonna get worse with AI...

half venture
#

It's been so long

agile jay
#

Auto generated ads

agile jay
half venture
#

Wait really

#

How do you know

open root
#

n

agile jay
#

Contacts, but looks like they're trying to hit a 6 month cycle.

half venture
agile jay
#

Between releases.

half venture
#

Llama 3 then 6 months later llama 4 ?

agile jay
#

More or less. At least that's their goal.

#

I expect a lot of companies to speed up now that they have got their pipelines.

#

More competition is good for us.

half venture
#

So

#

Openai also has a pipeline I hope

#

They have done nothing after novembers dev day

agile jay
#

Yep, but they are purposely trying to make it as easy a transition as possible.

#

After all, GPT4 is 2 year old tech for them.

#

What do you think all that Microsoft compute was for...

south kindle
#

Open AI just had a blog put out on new stuff.

agile jay
south kindle
agile jay
#

They did start replying to people about red teaming stuff.

half venture
#

Are they hoping the industry catches up to them or what

half venture
agile jay
#

No, if they release GPT5, guess where the training data for other models is coming from...

agile jay
#

So people have more time to get used to them.

half venture
agile jay
agile jay
#

You think the economy is ready for more powerful models?

half venture
#

I feel like they have had a similar problem as meta where there internal models they trained underperformed

#

What else explains

#

Anthropic releasing claude opus and openai doing nothing

agile jay
#

Openai didn't release ChatGPT just to make a bit of money on the side. It's literally to fund their research and get the public used to AI.

#

And I am guessing Microsoft got to see a demo of the next step, which is why they're thinking about making the 100B supercomputer...

agile jay
#

One does not simply spend 100B for another partner company...

half venture
#

Thats the only thing that can explain it

#

Path to agi is just scaling if Microsoft is willing to spend 100 b

agile jay
#

And why couldn't they do that themselves?

#

How many AI companies does Microsoft now have controle over?

#

Also the way Openai employees respond when anyone mentions Q*...

half venture
silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 2 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @agile jay
• @half venture

agile jay
south kindle
agile jay
#

They have him in a hamster wheel, powering GPT5

south kindle
agile jay
#

Yep, I've seen all of the IT crowd, lol

south kindle
#

Sooo daamn good.

agile jay
#

Yep, it's hilarious

south kindle
#

also Old Greg

#

that entire group is fantastic. lol.

agile jay
#

Yep, hard to find series that compare.

agile jay
south kindle
#

Oh wait....just connected the dots. Douglas is also...

#

you brits and your comedy skills. unmatched.

scarlet pagoda
#

Hii

south kindle
#

my dad was also born in the UK and moved here (the US/michigan) when he was 6. so I'm half english/british/whatever. ha.

agile jay
agile jay
scarlet pagoda
#

@agile jay Hello

south kindle
#

welcome to the discord

scarlet pagoda
#

@south kindle thnx

south kindle
#

lol and on that note, off to sleep. peace out

dark solstice
# south kindle

what type of question is that?. why are you asking a LLM if it ever drank something?

south kindle
#

scroll up.

dark solstice
south kindle
#

it's a transcript from a skit from mighty boosh

dark solstice
#

what is the lession do learn?

south kindle
#

no lesson.

#

humor

dark solstice
#

or information to understand?

south kindle
#

only

dark solstice
south kindle
#

go watch the skits if you want.

#

yes

#

yes it is.

#

congrats on figuing that out.

dark solstice
#

instead of using the LLM to ask business questions..

#

or gain practical skills

south kindle
#

????? it's midnight and I'm having a laugh. not being productive.

#

go complain to literally anyone else dude.

dark solstice
#

what do you do when you wake up?

#

or in your free time?

south kindle
#

i do remote IT support man. chill out with BS.

#

did you step on a pile of legos today?

dark solstice
south kindle
minor shard
dark solstice
#

waw

south kindle
#

There's a fine line between trolling and being massively disrepectful for literally no reason.

dark solstice
south kindle
#

I don't feel like explaining a very known occpuation to someone that apparently doesn't understand it.

dark solstice
#

like bruh

dark solstice
south kindle
#

I remotely support users for companies with software and hardware issues?????? can you not piece that together with the words "remote" "it" "support"?

dark solstice
south kindle
#

i get it. i'm done replying lol.

dark solstice
south kindle
#

why is the sky blue?

dark solstice
#

you dont need to be an ass

minor shard
south kindle
#

why is the grass green.

#

that's equal to your questions here.

#

yeah stepping away.

dark solstice
#

????????

#

you dont need to be an ass..

#

all I asked was "what is your occupation?"

#

and you got mad

#

like a child..

dark solstice
#

pathetic..

south kindle
#

you looking in the mirror over there?

#

lol

dark solstice
#

getting mad at a simple question.

#

lol

south kindle
#

if we were to take a server wide poll, i'm sure you would see the actual situation at hand here. you need use self-reflection if you want to be a likable person.

meager sparrow
#

What the hell is even happening here???

south kindle
#

hellll if i know.

#

he got annoyed I shared some Sonnet summaries of Old Greg videos.

dark solstice
#

all I asked was "what is your occupation"/ and he got mad

south tree
#

How come even though I’ve subscribed to pro through the App Store and I’m not able to use it on discord or it takes me to separate kind of payment area asking for another $20

dark solstice
#

for no reason

south kindle
#

this is easily the most "troll" question I've seen in my life dude.

dark solstice
minor shard
#

Lol @south kindle wow I completely forgot about Old Gregg

agile jay
minor shard
#

Idk how u ppl remember these old videos lol

south tree
#

Ummm to interject….x to me live under a bridge…what a troll??..lol

south kindle
#

much better. lol.

meager sparrow
#

ā€œBoxingā€

minor shard
south kindle
#

peope are cowards now a days, so that's accurate.

agile jay
#

It's with a court case...

meager sparrow
meager sparrow
minor shard
meager sparrow
minor shard
meager sparrow
#

Honestly I have been on the internet for a long time and I realized that it is very easy to sound tuff on chat

meager sparrow
south tree
#

Bike racks …3 :05…and bring her lunch money fer the week!!..lol

south tree
#

Keeeyboooardcwarrroirrorrs

agile jay
#

Gangsters don't know how to type

dark solstice
#

kinda like @south kindle ..

agile jay
#

They didn't go to school...

meager sparrow
silent magnetBOT
#
Easter eggs collected

You were able to grab 1 Easter eggs.

Collected by

• @agile jay

agile jay
#

If they did, they wouldn't be gangsters...

meager sparrow
south tree
#

School mstroooll…university of hard knocks yo

meager sparrow