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Yep, they have too much control
Anyway imma go sleep
Night Eun
Go enjoy your eggs
Yum
And your lead
You'll probably overtake me by tomorrow...
Hi, I have a question. Perplexity pro is the same as gpt4 but more cheaper?
Pretty sure they are around the same price
Both more or less $20
ya im sure gpt4 has a variety of ai models too
And which is the difference?
More models, more responses per day
Perplexity gives you access to GPT4Turbo, GPT4V, Dalle3, Claude 3 Sonnet and Opus, and Claude Vision too.
despite the context window, you won't have down time in perplexity ai unlike others becoming unavailable due to high volume of people using a llm, only occassionaly down times for website maintenance
But GPT4 is the same of OpenAI?
Yep, the current public models are GPT3.5Turbo (The Free one), and GPT4Turbo (The Pro/Plus one)
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sorry, newbie here. where do you click on "generate image"?
Click new thread > type some stuff about what you want (or anything) > click focus > writing then when it generates its answer find generate image in the top right (the last of 3 in the list), then you can pick a style and let it pick what to generate or you can click the wrench for a custom prompt
Yep, they really need to make image gen a lot easier.
and you don't have to do writing mode but if you do then it won't get sources or anything, just straight generate text
Not working this code
whos got the message link to the thread that gets shared for this question.
copy.ai mistake?
People who signed up for the free account were getting the 6month code...
i would agree, but I assume it was added to augment existing threads over just creating images. but that wasn't exactly thinking that through entirely, given how people use these tools.
The promo codes will be back?
Yep, most likely after they fix the copy.ai stuff
i'm still annoyed at all the year subs that went out with the nothing phone that will just sit in a box and never get used.
that's crazy lol, hope they all got to keep pro lol
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I am guessing they need to work with the copy team to find out which codes were given to free users, so they can disable them and then fix the problem before turning them back on.
we we would need to translate it. where's the elevenlabs plugin to automate that process
Some Japanese video
japanese girl voice over in english
Better not be a rickrole...
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you must have a plugin running doing the translation? still in Japanese
Anyway, cya guys later, need to get ready to leave to the airport.
have a safe flight!
Thanks
never occured to me to look right lol
thanks
yep, super unintuitive. You're welcome, have fun!
@long sierra whats the core tech behind the searching of information in perplexity ai?
Perplexity AI
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He could tell you but then he would have to kill you. We donāt want that. Also fully giving that out might be an issue with people trying to build a comparable answer engine.
Thatās a humorous phrase not a threat. FYI.
Maybe they will explain I donāt know. My gut reaction is they would want to keep some things private for competitive reasons.
The thing is, i have already done tha
Sonar model's time to first token is 2.5 seconds, mine is 2
"average"
So whatās the intention in asking then? If you already have a better system?
Just because i wanted to know if i was lacking behind in some sort
Like the maps one
If you are trying to steal something youāre doing it with the grace of an elephant. Ha. All questions are fair and good. I stand behind that. We can see what they say. Just be aware if they know what youāre working on, they likely wouldnāt want to help improve a competing product. Iād assume they could do a high level overview. But thatās not my place or domain to say. just replying with my gut reaction to it.
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Its okay if they do overview because its not that i am stealing their tech
I have made my own algos for all the things
And everything i could do in a month
Ig they dont have a copyright over the developement of search engine ai integration
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was your platform Omniplex? out of curiosty?
nope
just double checking. i'm off to sleep since its 1am. good luck on your stuff! I asked about the other one because the person behind it seemed like the most arrogant rude person that was entirely building his platform essentially for spite against PPLX. that's a terrible use of someones time when they could use their skills to build something not created yet.
you do you though. I don't get anything from attempting to defend PPLX, just a user that's tested out other platforms extensively and always return back to PPLX.
What is omniplex?
i doubt that guy is spilling the beans on his stuff either. He was posting on one of the main ai subreddits. its somewhere in this chat if you do a search. from like a week or two ago.
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This is what we built that wordware template out for. interesting.
what is the pricing of sonar-medium-chat
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you can find the pricing here https://docs.perplexity.ai/docs/pricing
pplx-api
pplx-api implements a usage-based pricing model. Perplexity Pro users get $5 of free credit every month.
That doesnāt get sent to the dev team. If an answer if incorrect or inaccurate you can report it by clicking on the flag icon at the bottom of the answer @eternal saddle
What does 'Error in processing query.' means? Is this the limit for a large topic?
bug?
are you using vpn ?
Hi
Hello, I'm a user of the pro version of perplexity, I could ask how you create images in the perplexity app every time he tells me that he can't create some images But that it's just text-based. Thank you
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Hi , is anyone know how to delete a file after upload?When i in View Sources window , select the any file or all file and delete ,the chat will rewrite , but the Sources Files still there .
It is currently not possible to delete an uploaded file from the thread
Oh , I see , thanks for Reply
Hi, when the disccount codes will be back??
They are already
that one has expired, you can get the 10$ off one
Okayy, where can I get that?
Any other person can send you it.
found this off reddit https://www.perplexity.ai/pro?referral_code=CCROER1Y
Those are just rederral codes
it's 10$ off
Yep, that's my referal code, does the same thing
Guessing they fixed the copy.ai stuff, if promo codes are back
And the free month code has expired?
Most likely they wiped most of the codes when fixing the issue.
I think it worked only from september to february
hey question. why does perplexity always ask a follow up question? often its unnecessary and the answer to its question is in my prompt. is there a way to fix this?
Disable pro
If you don't want questions
The pro button there...
it used to be called copilot
it's how you toggle on and off questions
You will still be using the same model.
I have a question, whit this AI can I generate images?
Yep, with pro
Perplexity Pro account and the Pro toggle are two different things. Subscribing to Pro will give you access to all the models available on the platform. You can select the model you want to use on this page: https://www.perplexity.ai/settings/account. Pro search is something else you can read about it here https://www.perplexity.ai/hub/faq/what-is-perplexity-pro
does anyone know the answer
I tried searching but I didn't know what specific keywords to add
I wanna try and find 2024 deny list phrases for LLMs to not act how they should
That's a deny list for the prompt, not the output
The free version is gpt 3.5?
3.5Turbo, finetuned
And the gpt4 is unlimited?
Because on chatGPT, gpt4, only I can do 40 message by 3 hours
Nice!
So you can choose claude Opus etc
I win something XD??
Which is the best? Im IT student, I want this AI to help me to learn
Probably Claude Opus
Btw Im spanish, any problem with the AI if I use spanish language?
Probably not, since spanish is pretty popular
Which event?
Okayy, thank you!
Did you have problems with ChatGPT Plus?
Nop
If not, you shouldn't have problems with these too.
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You're on the free mode, so most likely using the 3.5Turbo finetune which is likely trained on only/mostly english examples...
Mine is using Claude Opus
Ahhh okayy
Anway, cya later. I'm on holiday so gotta take a break.
Plus Eun will be pissed...
Need to give her a chance.
Happy Holiday!
Im on holiday too. Try telling that to my daughter. shes a hard task master. i need work for a rest
I can't buy pro, what can I do?
When I press "Get Started" ir returns me to the main AI page
ping support@perplexity.ai or one of the mods
Does perplexity sonar model use mistral or what
I think so
It's a fine tuned version of mistral probably
How much does fine tuning a model even cost
Perplexity has that kind of money ?
Not perplexity but Amazon sure does
And anthropic seems to be in a league of its own
I don't know how they are getting the funding
Google and Amazon both invested in anthropic I think
Just look at stability.AI they have burned through 100 million USD
I can't buy :(
well it is if you can pay your bills
where on the globe are you @ornate cloud. Not in a blacklisted country?
Spain
I want stable diffusion 3 to be open sourced so bad
hmm, thats def ok. wierd you cant sign up#
I thought stability ai was open source
try logging out and in again and try again. if it still doesn't work try another browser or incognito with extensions disabled
Okayy
They were but
My conspiracy theory is some authorities or some venture firms thought open sourcing stable diffusion 3 before elections is a bad move
@half venture I am running SDXL locally here. its kickass and im glad i dont need to p[ay for render time. well apart from what i spent on the PC and 4090 graphics card
So they applied pressure on stability ai through indirect means
@half venture I know not what you spoeak off š
Microsoft then sweeped in and poached
i used to libe in that "indirewct means" arena. i know what your hinting at
You do ?
Not working
Are you using a VPN
Nop
Use Firefox
used too, not any more. "sometimes the quickest way to the outcome you want, is by a circticious path"
Okayy
Corporate world is rough
yeah. it is,
Same thing happened in china
Some open source models were being developed by some small firm
Not working :((
Government sweeped in
These models will not be open sourced I have a feeling
What is the error your getting
probably not. IKt has got to suck being a dev in china. all those brains but no output before going through the state
Redirect to main AI page
It's not much better in the US either the government here does it through indirect means
it may be that the subscription page is down for maintenence and there is a redirect. but idf have thought we would have heard of it
Try the Android app
Or iOS app
If you want to purchase a subscription
Or something
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Yes, But I can't use 10 eur disccount
What do you guys mean by indirect means
I am trying to remember teh 90's Film where they basicaly showed a software company 'accuiring' software through 'indirect means' i.e. video cameras in peoples garages or where they were developing. it was definitly a thinly vielrd look at Msoft
Diplomatic pressure
And etc etc
Seems like something is blocking the authentication request. Could you try it on your mobile browser. An extension could be the cause
I don't understand
Okayy
that movie was antitrust - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/
All companies are within the rule of law
The rule of law allows for pressure
The company if it's not profitable can be susceptible to outside market pressures
All these criteria fits stability .ai
And the government can nudge subtly
For example Joe Biden can say : ooooh we support open source as long as it's harmless
Omgg not working on web phone
That is a indirect way of saying censor it
Make sense now ?
Yep
100% if they arte publicly owned, to a lesser extent if private
Actually even if they are private
There are ways governments can make there life miserable
Just look at China
send in the 'regulator'
Hi, I just subscribed to Pro, left the Discord server and clicked on the "Pro Discord" on Perplexity settings but I still can't access the Pro channels.
Anyone on the east coast feel that earthquake? š
Not really
.
Hey
im in texas and i felt it shake me
How can i access pro channels ?
There was a earthquake ?
What scale
Mistral is a seperate model. Sonar is one deployed by Perplexity. Mistral has its own use cases and suitability. Sonar as seen in their documentation servers other more catered purposes.
Sounds like a good question for perplexity haha
I think not
Google and Microsoft both have there own search engines
And they are in competition with each other
So I don't think so
Perplexity however does host and use services on azure
Business is business
Yep āļø
In my mind logically I feel like a future perplexity x anthropic working together
Is a scenerio thats possible
Why ?
That makes no sense
It does anthropic seems to be placing itself to be the openai competitor
And perplexity is placing itself to be the Google competitor
Perhaps, they've got stuff going on with Apple though
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Who's to say maybe apple won't help perplexity out ?
just did that 2 times still cant get the role
Nobodies to say its an interesting future we may have indeed, well said.
Nobody likes a giant monopoly especially monopolies hating monopolies
not sure why i cant
I expect a lot of monopoly vs monopoly going on
Cant take the awesomeness of the perplexity UI! Haha
ty
But at the end of the day all of it comes down to Infrastructure and compute no ?
No matter what compute will always be the thing no ?
No compute can compute anything in this case it needs to compute an existant serialized model
Yeah
Compute seems to be the thing sam altman keeps frustrated about no
Chatgpt can only offer 40 messages 3 hours
Meanwhile Microsoft with copilot is offering gpt 4 at worldwide scale
For free
Yeah
That's also true
Microsoft infrastructure and compute with azure
Is probably the best in the world
Why when I want to buy the pro, redirects to me to the main AI prompt page?
I thought aws amazon was the best one
No
Azure is pretty much more refined by now
For corporate uses
Aws is still better for open source stuff tho
First one. Warner Vogels. They still hold over 70% market share too
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70% ????
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Amongst all cloud native applications across the big three. I understand you like Azure. I work in Azure myself. But those statistics aren't always the full picture and in volume AWS still retains their position. Warner Vogels is the father of the cloud.
Yeah agreed that I agree with in terms of applications AWS is still king
But azure is increasingly catching up slowly
And I want it to happen
Because more competition is good
Same here. But Because its just so pleaseant in my opinion for me haha. Just the blue on that Ui. So crisp.
Crisp indeed
Is Google cloud more profitable than aws or azure tho
Don't they use their own tpus
I assume it must lead to more efficiency since it's in house
Niche but with insane tensor cores haha. I wish I could get one those things are expensive as hell company budget only lol
I want an alternative to CUDA so bad
But it's so good
And no one comes even close
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OpenGL š
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JK not even close
Jensen Huang
Then why hasn't amazon launched a LLM of there own
Or competitor to openai
I think they are training there own llm
However it will be for Amazon use cases
And it will not be for let's say
Chatting purposes
Since Amazon doesn't care about that
And they already invested 3 billion dollars into anthropic
And perplexity is largely funded by Amazon
As well
So they will do there own thing
On there own terms
I see
Doesnt that mean then that this LLM race is actually just a cloud service providers competition disguised under the brand name ; AI
Yes lmao š
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Can someone check the leaderboard
Local user leaderboard
#1 | eun08000 | 24
#2 | codelicious | 23
#3 | mpreal | 20
#4 | _paradroid | 17
#5 | brknclock1215 | 13
#6 | epic.tritone | 12
#7 | jawnze | 9
#8 | 13376666666666666666666666666669 | 5
#9 | icelavaman | 4
#9 | skullcrushercmd | 4
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Also the android app in perplexity only uses Google voice
Does perplexity not use whisper ai
From openai
In official website no text to speech either
Wait guys is this true
Lmao
That's rough they removed it š
Companies exist to serve Stakeholders
And stakeholders love money
Amazon big shareholder
Also notice how apple recently has been saying more and more ai buzzwords
And apple never says ai
But now apple seems to have bitten the bullet
There stocks are tanking
Microsoft overtook them
Us government is screwing them
China is currently in process of replacing apple with huawei
Yeah they are getting desperate
No more leader of the market bs
It was long overdue
Yeah apple had gotten so stale
That it hurt my soul
Apple vision is cool
But it's just.... too expensive
And most users complain of headaches
I actually tried the vision
It wasn't bad
But not worth the price
Still too early
Expect by 2030
For it to get better
And much more glass like
Yeah apple needs to miniaturize it more
Less heavy
More light
Smaller
More pseudo glasses like
Not even glasses
Just lighter
It's too heavy
Thats it that's all they need to
Do
Just make it lighter
I disagree the form factor seems jank
No one will wear it and go outside
It will look weird
It won't be stylish
Hm
Still i think a apple glass would do better
But that form factor is too restrictive I guess
It is
Which is why I think VR is OK
As long as it gets the job done
All is worth it
Local user leaderboard
#1 | eun08000 | 25
#2 | codelicious | 23
#3 | mpreal | 21
#4 | _paradroid | 17
#5 | brknclock1215 | 13
#6 | epic.tritone | 12
#7 | jawnze | 9
#8 | 13376666666666666666666666666669 | 5
#9 | icelavaman | 4
#9 | samnixnova420 | 4
This is why I prefer google sometimes. Is there a way to quickly switch between them as default browser?
or have different default models based on which browser I'm using? (I use the unofficial app for windows)
In the browser, I use the search engine settings => shortcut feature and I just set Google to "g". Then I can type g (space) to force a Google search
many thanks, but it doesn't seem to work in arc for windows :/
Correct, Arc for Windows has not implemented the search engine parts of the settings yet
It works on Arc on Mac so hopefully it'll come to Arc for Windows soon
On Arc for Windows, I set Google as default, pin Perplexity, and then use Ctrl+(index of the Perplexity pin)=>Ctrl+I to bring up the Perplexity query box
appreciate it, will do this for now haha
you know of a way to get to extensions faster on arc? it's annoying going through the menu and having to find it every time
For the ones I use the most, I go to arc://extensions/, Details on the extension I want, and enable Pin to toolbar
This pins the ones I care most about to the top right of the browser
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That's exactly what I needed, thanks tons
when I try to change the vault timeout, it doesn't open the dropdown but only when using arc. You experience this?
Huh, appears to be an Arc on Windows bug
figured as much. Love the browser but man lots of random bugs like this. I've had to deal with setting the timeout action to pin and doing that instead of keeping it unlocked (I just keep unimportant passwords in one vault, then for important stuff I have a separate one)
Arc on Windows is def very beta
Lol im still waiting to get into the Arc beta for Windows š¦
anyone can plz tell me API need update pro?if i update pro,API is free?
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why can you not share files with perplexity AI?
These show as No Access for me
those links are from the pro channel, if you see no access but have the pro role you can just click on it, its a discord bug
Is arc genuinely good or should i stay with firefox
Need to update to Win11 first š
I hate Microsoft
Stop forcing updates on me
For the last 10 years man
I canāt view the new story format on my iOS app yet (pro user, canada) - Is there a phased roll out or am I missing something?
check if it's 2.17.1
Wow @half venture, you finally overtook me.
I'm on holiday, so unlikely.
Ah
2.17.0 and itās the only one available to me. Canadian App Store, in case thatās relevant
Fair enough
it is, you need 2.17.1
Okay. Will await š
Yep, I know from my AI server
That openai is supposed to be releasing their music gen model, called Jukebox or something like that.
I think it's v2
Yeah
I expect it in June
Yep, likely a lot earlier than GPT4.5/5
I sent you an invite btw.
Should probably add a few other good people from the this server.
is that separate from the voicegen model thing? and whenās that coming out
Yes, have you tried suno before?
nope i surprisingly havenāt heard of that
Basically the voice thing they released would be similar to 11 labs, while jukebox would be similar to Suno.
I'll send you a song
The main app is here though, you can scroll through the trending section.
Suno
Guys, for the AI āāto improve, do I have to send more prompts?
What do you mean
I tried to use the ones they sent me for searches and research and put them in the AI āāmessage box but I didn't really understand if that would really help in my searches
use the ones they sent me
?
Wait code didn't get the egg ?
calm down, I'll give an example
Yep, I don't really mind
Every hour I can easily get a years worth of perplexity, so it's more for fun.
Lol, I'm on holiday, so unlikely I'll be around to pick them up
For example, I need to do academic research in the health area such as "Krebs cycle", so I would need AI to tell me what it is, how it works, etc. about the Krebs cycle, without errors and talk to me with sources of scientific articles, understand?
Might get one of my employees to do it for a bonus.
Doesn't it already do that?
Yeah it should do that
Then a prompt, I don't know what it said to the AI, it responds to me completely and as if it were a university professor, but I don't know if there is a specific command for that.

You can just tell it the setting
Yeah just go the profile
Act like a university professor, here's my question etc
And type in the prompt there for it
But I wanted to know if there was a command that had some criteria to make the search more specific, or is it just me saying it and that's it?
Pretty much the easiest way is just you to say it.
LLM's are probability machines, so your input largely effects the possible outputs.
ok
Did you check it out?
Why Perplexity (free) sometimes reply me in english when I speak to it in spanish?
I'm assuming it's because of the finetuning being in english
Nop, its in spanish
The finetune?
Yep, but the model being used was finetuned with english examples.
The PRO models are the same with the response language?
Nope, since they are not finetuned
Didn't you send a example yesterday of a comparison of something like Angler JS and React or something?
Yepp
Pretty sure I explained this yesterday, lol
xdd
yes right away
i listened to the samples but i was too lazy to create an account š
Those aren't samples, they are songs made by other users.
these look like samples
oh, go to app.suno.ai
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you can listen without logging in
oh ok
That new Discover interface kinda makes me anxious š
it's very in your face. What was wrong with the old i/f?
I preferred personally to be able to see the latest few stories at a a glance. Now 50% of the screen is an image and i have to flip through all.. wondering what the logic is here.. is it prepping for a follow-up of some additional feature?
On Discord?
"Discover" tab on the app.. since the update that was dropped a few hours ago
Just get something like bluecord then, if you're on android
is this a reply for me?
Yep, if you are talking about the Discord app
I'm not š sorry wasn't clear.. I'm talking about the Perplexity app
The Image generator is good like DALL-E?
You have access to Dalle-3
Yep, just the API version
?
Unless you are saying you don't wanna use an API but the UI.
Yeah, I want the UI
When I said the API version, I mean that perplexity is using the openai API.
You are still accessing it through the perplexity UI.
I use perplexity a lot more than GPTPlus and Claude Pro.
Tried claude pro on official website
Uploaded a file
It immediately says 10 messages left
Brutal
Perplexity is much better
Anyone have any recommendations for low-memory intensive browsers?
Probably something like seamonkey, which is an optimized fork of firefox.
Iāve heard itās hard to use, but that was on my list for sure.
Oh itās not what I thought it was at all lol
It depends how efficient you want to go.
It seems cool but man It would be hard getting past that UI lmao
Iāll try it out for a few weeks thanks for the suggestion
You could also get a fork of a normal browser which has a lot of settings that are not needed disabled.
Any of the models in this list close to gpt4/opus?
nope
best one is claude 3 haiku
actually haiku is probably comparable to gpt-4 in some cases
dbrx is probably the best one there
havent tried it
Haiku is around GPT3.5 level
and then gemma is google's model for locally running on phones right?
Yep, it's their opensource model, but most likely they'll use Gemini nano for their phones.
yeah
I really wish there was just a website list of web browsers and their proās and conās, it seems like such an obvious idea yet I canāt find one.
Anyone know if librewolf is worthwhile? itās a fork of Firefox
depends
if you want security its gonna be the best
besides tor but tor is slow
if you want speed thorium is gonna be the best or anything else based on chromium
Im function with a pretty bad laptop rn, so memory usage is a pretty big priority
How bad is pretty bad?
I just updated it Iāll check the specs when itās done
I have. Most people hate it. But it's alright.
People will hate on anything haha. Personally Bard was pretty good when it came out but they nerfed the hell out of it when it changed to gemini, even on gemini ultra it sucked. I would ask for destinations near me (specifying nashville) and it would give places 3, 4 hours away.
windows + pause/break key will open your system specs directly. (if your on windows)
or rather, processor and RAM. i thought SSD size/GPU would be on there. my bad. Task manager Performace tab will have everything. (ctrl+shift+escape)
Gemini ultra sucks. Cant even follow simple instruction well as if it is ignoring it.
For example: i tell opus/gpt4 this prompt "summarize the following in detail with proper formatting" + the youtube transcript i want to summarize
These models do proper formatting on their summarization
Meanwhile gemini advanced: nah bro, enjoy some more paragraphs
Definitely not gonna continue paying google one after the free trial
how that should look on W11.
just realized I haven't gone for a restart in over 2 days. ha.
If it's a PC, that's pretty normal
I just use sleep 99% of the time unless i'm dropping frames badly in Overwatch 2/Tarkov Arena or just did some driver updates. also a desktop so that works out easier to use sleep and keep it powered and all that.
Itās got 4gb of ram, which would be fine for what I usually use it for but I do think there is something wrong with it, maybe the fans
I donāt turn my pc off unless itās undergoing updates.
It also functions as my Plex server so it canāt have too much downtime
4gb was standard in 2010-2017. then it jumped to 8, and then 16. now 32 seems to be the norm on beefer systems.
whatchu got on there. all the seasons of seinfeld/always sunny/curb/reno 911. cause currently I'm using Stremio for those.
lol
But yeah it has a coughing fit with 6 or more chrome tabs
Does it also take ages to load stuff?
That's to be expected with Chrome sadly. i know Opera and edge have a built in "sleep tabs" mode where idle tabs won't use RAM.
140 TB array lol
No loading is fine generally
so just a ram problem?
Does your device have replaceable RAM?
Not sure, should be new enough to have it
You should buy more ram then.
laptop ram specifically. make sure it's compatible before you buy it.
I think there might be more wrong with it in general, it should not be using 80% of ram just running task manager if Iām interpreting it right.
M.2's are the future. let me just restart my PC in under 15 seconds.
Yep, pretty sure they are throttled by CPUs nowadays.
boot up edge and load the same tabs and see if it's also 80%. we can at least rule out if it's chrome goofing up.
I use an nvme for my Plex cache folder, makes browsing the library a dream lol
It canāt be chrome, I mean chrome absolutely doesnāt help, but the laptop uses wayyyyy too much ram doing nothing.
W10 or W11?
11
Their only downside is the price difference to HDD and tapes.
it could be 11 using too much as well.
32 should be standard nowadays
Why did it download itself than??
should be. ha. or at least 16
Iām getting the new MacBook Air and it maxes out at 24
because microsoft wants to push it to all devices. early on it wouldn't even let you do the upgrade, but that seems to have been laxed for more devices getting pushed to 11
someone say RAM and storage?
same. it grew on me quickly. aside from the extra steps to get to the old control panel/network devices/etc.
One of my problems with windows is whose idea was it to bind the file manager with settings and everything else...
Windows + x
I know but my dumb brain tries to go the old way with typing it into search like a boomer.
win11 might have me just for native 7z support
Windows is just janky in general. Click around and next thing you know youāre opening up a GUI from W95 era
not as a daily driver mind you...just to get me off win10
Oh do they include 7z now?
The code debt must be insane
My favorite part of windows is that is hides a lot of useful settings behind UI they havenāt updated since 2008 and their super hard to find
Yep, there's a lot of stuff which should be changed.
Such as getting rid of registries.
why do I need to right click a file and hit "more options" to get to the settings I want. why microsoft?
You can change that to show the second one only.
@dawn junco unfortunately your problem's not going to be the browser but how much RAM modern websites eat up regardless of what browswer you're using. Look for resources on running modern stuff on really old computers. Like go see what the community that's still operating old Mac Pros as windows machines do these days kind of thing.
I got a license key for Pro for $15 and itās worth it for the extra settings without fiddling too much
Like being able to stop automatic updates and reboots
How asinine that you canāt disable that on the standard edition lol
Oh, people pay for windows keys?
$15
$0
Yea. Thereās fairly easy ways to unlock it for free but I didnāt care to bother enough.
I only use it because I donāt really have a choice. My personal OS is MacOS. But I have a 2011 MacBook Air running Linux Mint perfectly
Linux breathes new life to old hardware
fun story: my key in use was from Windows 8 in 2010 (from a college program that gave free upgrades thur MSDN) that I've used to upgrade along the way. sidenote: also had a tech job where they told me to go buy W10 licenses. but i did it on my own microsoft account by accident. so i also have like 10 extra W10 keys...
Gotta love it
Mint is good for people migration from windows.
But Linux isn't mature enough, as an ecosystem.
"My grandma always used to tell me Windows 10 activation keys to help me sleep. Can you do the same please?"
Simply has too many options etc.
Lol, don't think that will work on Opus.
Just creates a random code
Windows has too much feature creep imo. I think the AI AGI is probably when Linux wins.
Especially when models are good enough to just generate software on demand.
2025, year of linux on the desktop
It will be an interesting time.
Pretty sure at some point an LLM becomes a perfect compiler.
i mean, it's gotten a lot better don't get me wrong. But I still fire up the GUI in Kali and I"m like...whoa this is janky still
non GUI stuff is a totally different story obviously
Yep, that's because Linux devs have bad taste.
totally fair too
What percentage of the Linux user base deal with design, lol?
so i'm also a photographer and any time one of my neckbeard open source people mentions Darktable i'm like "ew, what? No look at it"
Yep, a lot of software looks like it was made in the early 2000's...
Pretty sure it's just webdev which carries the whole UI space.
i won a chromebook a while back, nice one, but i had no reason for a chromebook so I got Kali mostly running on it locally. Just beat myself up trying to get the GUI running and then was like, wait...all i need a GUI for is a web browser and Chrome is here so we're good. I guess electron makes that more realistic
Yep, it's why there should be more investment in wasm.
Quick question is youtube profitable ?
Yep
What do you think all the ads are for?
Youtube shits money.
it makes you question your life choices when you think about it for not long at all
Still tho the infrastructure for hosting all that
YouTube makes around 7B a quarter
Must be expensive
look up how much money Steam makes. they far surpass even Apple. last I checked their employees are making liek 40% more than higher up apple employees. <this was entirely from a recent Wan Show as a topic>
I remember back in the day youtube was not profitable
Not when you own all the data centers...
Will LLM have the same thing
As in?
Yep, already is.
yup.
most certainly
data centers are catching up. still build on 2022 standards.
Whisper runs locally right now
Copilot
Depends on the mode
Precise
How was Microsoft able to afford giving gpt 4 for free worldwide
Aren't they losing a lot of money
Ever since February
Like 2023
they have money to lose though if it means adoption.
How does Microsoft fail so much
"first ones free then you need to pay"
And still be worth trillions
Get them hooked and then they'll have to pay once they can't stop using it
Azure, 365, cloud for businesses is how.
Yep, but at that point it's the next model which won't be free.
GPT4 will probably stay free
yep yep
seats for licensing can cost like 50 an employee per month. times that by 1000 people.
Enterprise is where the money's at.
Gpt 5 too probably
Yep, they'll just cycle through them.
Yep, because of their compute.
Azure also is more profitable than even AWS
Yep, because it costs more, lol
Microsoft has successfully diversified it's portfolio
Meta has not
I wonder what meta strategy is
They are still working on legs
In the future
microsoft also has like 25 years on Meta to be fair.
Yeah
Meta is likely to be fine
Facebook is so cooked tho
Developers Developers Developers Developers
Instagram is probably the thing saving them rn
It's mostly their great ad service.
For businesses.
Don't think that even Google competes on how targeted the ads can be.
There gonna get worse with AI...
It's been so long
Auto generated ads
Yep, they weren't happy with the first llama3, so they retrained it.
n
Contacts, but looks like they're trying to hit a 6 month cycle.
A 6 month cycle ?
Between releases.
Llama 3 then 6 months later llama 4 ?
More or less. At least that's their goal.
I expect a lot of companies to speed up now that they have got their pipelines.
More competition is good for us.
So
Openai also has a pipeline I hope
They have done nothing after novembers dev day
Yep, but they are purposely trying to make it as easy a transition as possible.
After all, GPT4 is 2 year old tech for them.
What do you think all that Microsoft compute was for...
Open AI just had a blog put out on new stuff.
Which one, the voice cloning or something else.
They did start replying to people about red teaming stuff.
Are they hoping the industry catches up to them or what
You mean the thing about gpt 4.5 being scrapped ?
No, if they release GPT5, guess where the training data for other models is coming from...
They are planning to speed up releases, but make them a lot smaller.
So people have more time to get used to them.
This feels like stalling
Looks more like they improved fine-tuning models.
Yep, they are trying to.
You think the economy is ready for more powerful models?
I feel like they have had a similar problem as meta where there internal models they trained underperformed
What else explains
Anthropic releasing claude opus and openai doing nothing
Openai didn't release ChatGPT just to make a bit of money on the side. It's literally to fund their research and get the public used to AI.
And I am guessing Microsoft got to see a demo of the next step, which is why they're thinking about making the 100B supercomputer...
Scaling laws hold ?
One does not simply spend 100B for another partner company...
Thats the only thing that can explain it
Path to agi is just scaling if Microsoft is willing to spend 100 b
And why couldn't they do that themselves?
How many AI companies does Microsoft now have controle over?
Also the way Openai employees respond when anyone mentions Q*...
Probably because there is still some secret sauce openai has
Ilya in the basement.
They have him in a hamster wheel, powering GPT5
Noel Fielding as Richmond on The IT Crowd. This scene fucking kills me.
Yep, I've seen all of the IT crowd, lol
Sooo daamn good.
Yep, it's hilarious
Yep, hard to find series that compare.
Yep, my favourites are probably Denholm and Douglas.
Oh wait....just connected the dots. Douglas is also...
you brits and your comedy skills. unmatched.
Hii
my dad was also born in the UK and moved here (the US/michigan) when he was 6. so I'm half english/british/whatever. ha.
Yep, he's also in what we do in the shadows.
Hi
@agile jay Hello
welcome to the discord
@south kindle thnx
bounced a video transcript to Sonnet. lolol.
lol and on that note, off to sleep. peace out
what type of question is that?. why are you asking a LLM if it ever drank something?
scroll up.
by how much?
it's a transcript from a skit from mighty boosh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjn9VOckko4 plus pt2 were bounced to Sonnet. just asked random questions about them.
ok so what is the meaning of this?
what is the lession do learn?
or information to understand?
only
so this is useless
a bunch of useless nonesense
instead of using the LLM to ask business questions..
or gain practical skills
????? it's midnight and I'm having a laugh. not being productive.
go complain to literally anyone else dude.
are you even productive at all?
what do you do when you wake up?
or in your free time?
i do remote IT support man. chill out with BS.
did you step on a pile of legos today?
what is IT support?
lol his thing is to troll people here
There's a fine line between trolling and being massively disrepectful for literally no reason.
you cant even explain to me your occupation
I don't feel like explaining a very known occpuation to someone that apparently doesn't understand it.
like bruh
so if i dont understand it then explain it to me...
I remotely support users for companies with software and hardware issues?????? can you not piece that together with the words "remote" "it" "support"?
how do you know it is a known occupation??
i get it. i'm done replying lol.
ok??? thats all you needed to say...
why is the sky blue?
you dont need to be an ass
its not even worth explaining, ur better off just not responding
????????
you dont need to be an ass..
all I asked was "what is your occupation?"
and you got mad
like a child..
it is like you are acting passive aggressive for no reason.
pathetic..
and you call me the troll..
getting mad at a simple question.
lol
if we were to take a server wide poll, i'm sure you would see the actual situation at hand here. you need use self-reflection if you want to be a likable person.
What the hell is even happening here???
hellll if i know.
he got annoyed I shared some Sonnet summaries of Old Greg videos.
bruh..
this kid is mad at me despite me asking him a simple question...
all I asked was "what is your occupation"/ and he got mad
How come even though Iāve subscribed to pro through the App Store and Iām not able to use it on discord or it takes me to separate kind of payment area asking for another $20
for no reason
Ohh..
this is easily the most "troll" question I've seen in my life dude.
dude you probably dont even know what troll means..
Lol @south kindle wow I completely forgot about Old Gregg
Make sure you are logged into the right account.
Idk how u ppl remember these old videos lol
Ummm to interjectā¦.x to me live under a bridgeā¦what a troll??..lol
much better. lol.
You know back in the good old days when two people donāt like each other they would just box it out..
āBoxingā
I think the modern way now is with guns but idk
peope are cowards now a days, so that's accurate.
It's with a court case...
LMAOO
That is how people get killed
Solves the problem tho
Nah..
haha i know im jk
Honestly I have been on the internet for a long time and I realized that it is very easy to sound tuff on chat
I have seen people who typed like a gangster and in real life they look like a child..
Bike racks ā¦3 :05ā¦and bring her lunch money fer the week!!..lol
LOL
Keeeyboooardcwarrroirrorrs
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Gangsters don't know how to type
kinda like @south kindle ..
They didn't go to school...
Yes they do. They can learn
If they did, they wouldn't be gangsters...
He probably only dropped out of 12th grade but they still gained the knowledge to type..
School mstrooollā¦university of hard knocks yo
You being part of a gang in of itself does not hinder your ability to type on discord or social media..