#(Resolved) Ozimade - Crashing

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ashen pollen
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Okay I am gonna look through the history in troubleshooting to make a list of everything to put in here. Can you just describe what seems to be happening and any patterns you may have noticed?

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and yeah - that is everything

arctic seal
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That's the problem there is no pattern I can put my finger on. Except for now where it just started crashing trying to gbet over the shroud but other than that it's random

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How do i put the whole file log in here as that isnt the whole log

ashen pollen
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It is the whole log. it gets truncated in discord and I have to download it.,

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I am going through it now

arctic seal
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Oh ok sorry about that

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But yea it always ends up on each log the same error at the bottom

ashen pollen
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yeah - it's a generic error

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pretty much all the logs after crashes end in that no matter tha cause.

arctic seal
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ok

ashen pollen
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You are playing a solo game, right?

arctic seal
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yes

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havent tried joining a server or multiplayer since i started playing again

ashen pollen
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okay just making sure. I didn't see you enter in the log, but wanted to make sure

arctic seal
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no worries

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Is there any other tests i can do on the gpu other than stress testing it?

ashen pollen
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I had you stress test in 3D mark right?

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or was that someone else... lol

arctic seal
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The computer guy ran heaven benchmark i believe for nearly 2 hours on full stress mode

ashen pollen
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Ah - right you said you brought it to a guy. I would say I wouldn't worry about it being a hardware failure right now if he did that ๐Ÿ™‚

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I am seeing something that is a little concerning in your log. I don't know if we asked you to try this, but have you turned steam cloud save off and tried to see if it's still crashing?

arctic seal
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ok. Wasnt sure. Thing is he said software isn;t his thing in terms of he repairs and builds PCs but is limited on software knowledge

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No no one mentioned it before

ashen pollen
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(a little concerning meaning it could be nothing, but might be a cloue)

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you are using cloudsave, yes?

arctic seal
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i will say yes lol. It says cloud upodating when logging out of a game

ashen pollen
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Okay, can you copy the files from this location - ..\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\[YourSteamID]\1203620\remote
YourSteamID is your unique Steam ID number - to this location - ..\Users\%username%\Saved Games\Enshrouded - and then turn cloudsave off and try to launch your game?

arctic seal
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That would be in the steam folder or?

ashen pollen
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The .. is the drive that your game and steam are installed on

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actually, the second one might be on your windows drive if it's different

arctic seal
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I must be doing something wrong can't find it

ashen pollen
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which one?

arctic seal
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1st one. Havent even got to second one yet lol

ashen pollen
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Okay open up file explorer - this icon on your desktop

arctic seal
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ok

ashen pollen
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Click on This PC

arctic seal
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yep

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os c. i only got 1 ssd

ashen pollen
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okay so click on C

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then "Program Files (86)

arctic seal
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yep

ashen pollen
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Steam

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Userdata

arctic seal
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yep

ashen pollen
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you should only have one folder in the next one

arctic seal
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yep

ashen pollen
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open that then find 1203620

arctic seal
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yep

ashen pollen
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then remote

arctic seal
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it says i have 9 charachters but only have 2 wtf lol

ashen pollen
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that folder contains all of your save files - character and world, including backups.

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It's the same file and backups. The character save is all your characters in one file

arctic seal
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is that my own chars? or includes followers in game

ashen pollen
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it's 1 save and 9 backups

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same with the world saves. each slot has an id - like 3ad85aea for slot 1, and 9 backups

arctic seal
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ok.

ashen pollen
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and info files for the world saves as well

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so take all of those files and copy them to ..\Users\%username%\Saved Games\Enshrouded

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the %username% will be whatever you called yourself on the computer

arctic seal
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i dont even remember lol

ashen pollen
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so right click on file explorer again and click "File explorer" then go to this pc > (C:) > Users > whatever your user name is > Saved Games > Enshrouded

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and select all the files in the remote folder, to the enshrouded folder. right click them and click copy, then right click inside the enshrouded folder and click paste. Please make sure to choose the right files, as if you overwrite your saves there is no easy way to get them back.

arctic seal
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so i open the enshrouded file and copy into that

ashen pollen
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the folder, yeah

arctic seal
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ok i think im done with that lol

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what could go wrong ๐Ÿคฃ

ashen pollen
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so everything that was in the one folder is now in both?

arctic seal
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yea went into enshrouded user json file

ashen pollen
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I don't understand what you mean

arctic seal
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when i clicked open enshrouded foulder there was 1 file in there called enshrouded_user.json file

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i think i done it right anyways. not worried if i lose the saves but think im good to go

ashen pollen
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as long as everything from the one folder went into the other folder.

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the JSON is a settings file

arctic seal
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went from steam folder into c

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well saved from steam to enshrouded so think we are good

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so i turn off the cloud now for enshrouded?

ashen pollen
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Okay now, right click on enshrouded in the list of games in your steam library click on properties nad uncheck this setting:

arctic seal
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ok done

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well it loaded thats a start lol

ashen pollen
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start up the game and see if it crashes

arctic seal
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will have to give it a bit of playtime but i will report back to u.

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its never crashed on load up its always in game

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thank you for your help either way this turns out but i will message in here if we do or dont have success

ashen pollen
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Okay sounds good. ๐Ÿ™‚

arctic seal
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so the place i crashed 6 times before i made it past that so here;s hoping lol

ashen pollen
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Well I had noticed that you got an awful ping when your game was trying to save, which made me think your cloudsave was causing some issue. Not sure if it is the issue, or 100% of the issue - but I am glad to hear it's going well so far.

arctic seal
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1st crash. Was feeling lucky too lol. But it did get me through that area where i kept crashing

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Yea im not sure what's going on there. I sent all the info to keen devs. Idk just dont understand why there is no consistency to ikt.

ashen pollen
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Can you put the log in here if you haven't already jumped back in?

arctic seal
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sure

ashen pollen
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Did you already disable your integrated graphics card?

arctic seal
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i tried that a while back and didnt help but could try again. Probably should do a restart while im at it

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sry just did a restart

ashen pollen
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no worries.

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Integrated GPUs have been known to cause issues - and even if vulkan itself happens to load up the right GPU, one alt tab could switch the active GPU to your integrated card which has no VRAM, and is under spec to run the game.

arctic seal
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yea i will try disabling it. Gee it's a lot to go through just to play lol.

ashen pollen
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Even if you continue to crash, I would leave it off.

arctic seal
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idk if its an issue but there are so many things that want to control the gpu. Got nvidia home panel, windows, geforce and alienware command center. Its so many lol

ashen pollen
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If you do crash after doing this, though - chances are it's some other software running on your system that is causing the issue - maybe even one of those, or a combination of them that is causing issues. At that point it's a process of elimination.

arctic seal
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yea. Seriously thinking about taking it to someone who knows software inside out if i can find one

ashen pollen
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There isn't anyone around that would know everything and be able to track it down any differently than you would, honestly.

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nothing in computers is that predictable, and there are just too many possible combinations of issues.

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If you crash after disabling the integrated GPU, you are looking at going into your task manager and disabling everything you can in the start up apps. Everything if it lets you (nothing in there is integral to your windows or computer running)

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if the crashes stop after doing that, it's a matter of enabling the software 1-by-1 until it crashes again to figure out what it is.

arctic seal
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I could probably handle the crashes if you actually spawned back to the same place you crashed. It's a frustrating set up.

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Ah ok yea i will try that or just give up i think. Its too much stuffing around for 1 game. Reminds me of ARK. lol

ashen pollen
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Also - as you are using a laptop - I am not sure if your hardware guy told you, but laptops are prone to overheating issues. Make sure that your laptop is on a cool, solid surface, like wood or metal - no cloth or anything that can block the vents. Even though your hardware guy ran your computer through the gamut - he very likely did it on an appropriate surface, even possibly a cooling pad - so it may not have shown him if your system is having cooling issues.

arctic seal
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yep. I have it on a laptop stand plus on top of that i have it on laptop cooler pads

ashen pollen
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okay good.

arctic seal
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temps have been good been checking them out cpu/gpu 85 degrees celcius while gaming

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the fans are 100% all the time now

arctic seal
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Anyways really appreciate your time and help. Thing i will just leave it for now and see if the devs come back with anything. Thanks Kira.

arctic seal
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So had the game running for about 8hrs now and no crashing touch wood

arctic seal
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Not sure what I did that exactly worked though. Changed a few things.

ashen pollen
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also - (ahem) OMG YAY!!!! ๐Ÿฅ‚ ๐Ÿฅ‚ ๐ŸŽ‰

arctic seal
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First of all i deleted all my characters and saves. Maybe a corrupt save? Then changed graphic settings to quality instead of performance but then also changed something on steam. and yay lol

ashen pollen
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I am glad to hear it. ๐Ÿ’œ

arctic seal
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I turned this off

ashen pollen
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(Resolved) Ozimade - Crashing

arctic seal
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Was reading online with most people saying they disabled it. There was a small patch this morning not surte what it was.

ashen pollen
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That usually is something if you are stuck loading before the menu, but perhaps it's doing something. There was no patch for everyone this morning, that was likely you downloading shaders.

arctic seal
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Ah kk.

ashen pollen
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They don't work on the weekends there - so you'll never see a patch on the weekend.

arctic seal
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I dont know which of these things fixed but im leaning towards the steam thing or my game save was corrupted