combat-and-skills

[raw bone]

Is there any good builds for mid 20s? with about 70 skill points?
Most of what I see is for later-game builds

[runic tree]

I know mid 20s is around when mage gameplay starts to feel not-terrible. Melee builds are generally pretty solid for most of the game. Not sure what ranger builds are like in the mid 20s though, so I don't know how they compare at that point.

Of course with the recent skill tree overhaul it's probably a good idea to take any previous builds with a grain of salt now.

[raw bone]

Ya... So for I looted the end-game blue sword (intentionally vague)
And so I have a Kick/Shockwave 2H build

But I was hoping to try different things out

[north nest]

there's a guy who does a shroud depot type thing for items in 5lv increments

idk what level eternal spells come up for mage but im pretty sure a 5% mana leech staff will relatively "solve" mana issues

and i know my most fun had was hollowed halls on mage

[runic tree]

Yeah, Mana Leech does a lot of heavy lifting at solving mage mana issues. Especially if you're lucky enough to score a staff with it between levels 5 and 20.

It's not as mandatory at later levels, but it's still nice to have. Especially since increasing max mana via Spirit is kind of pointless without any other form of percent based mana regen.

[north nest]

ya

[runic tree]

But yeah, I'm not too familiar with 2H weapon builds. Even with the animation changes in the last update I find them a bit unwieldy for my playstyle. I'm more of a 1H sword and staff build.

Gives me a nice balance of speed, survivability and support.

[raw bone]

I use a 1H for most things, but I am also loving the sword for swarms

But that is most of what I'm running into is swarms lol

The Great sword changes are great for that

[prisma salmon]

Is 1h different with shield and without? Forgive me if its a silly question

[runic tree]

My strategy for swarms has been to blast away with Light Burst, spawn a bunch of recovery orbs, and then cut everything up while picking up the orbs if I need to.

Used to have a bit more crowd control before Terror got nerfed, but the pushback from the spell is still useful for breathing room.

[ionic viper]

You can still block if that is what you mean.

[prisma salmon]

Doesn't change damage profile at all though, eh? So pretty pointless to not have a shield.

[ionic viper]

Yeah, having a shield is simply better.

[runic tree]

Yeah, if you're using a 1H there's no reason not to use a shield. Though if you don't want a hunk of metal hanging off your arm for aesthetic reasons the magical wards serve a similar function and only have a visual when actively blocking (though they're better at parrying than they are sustained blocking).

[bronze hollow]

Shields have better perks for blocking/parrying

[ionic viper]

I believe you don't get a damage boost when you do not use a sheild.

[raw bone]

Always use a shield. It's better than not having it

[quiet yacht]

Hey any idea Tricks for get strong into early game as Tank?

[cursive citrus]

The Pocket Sun Strat to spawn ten billion orbs, will never not be funny. 90% bloodletting and lightning channel creates similar hilarity

[spiral plinth]

It's really hard if you don't have rings with health leach, there's a 1h sword that drops from the bugbear things with 2x health leach

[glad adder]

so do more levels of Earth Aura just increase the size of the aura, not the defensive power?

[cursive citrus]

Correct

[glad adder]

Thanks

[keen lava]

Have the devs ever considered making some single handed and larger weapons have dex scaling?

[iron shale]

Anyone has a good two hand build that also handles some range well enough?
I'm terrible at building something that feels balanced

[cursive citrus]

Here’s my greatsword spellblade if you’re interested

@iron shale

[iron shale]

Thank you, I'll try it out but I am not sure I liked the feeling of the greatsword

[cursive citrus]

Feel free to change the weapon

The idea is there regardless

[fossil oak]

Are there any decent battlemage tank builds out there I could be pointed at? I love the Paladin feels.

[drowsy hamlet]

Im kinda working on one but I'm only level 15 so far.

Useing burning weapons and a shield.

Started up warrior path in slashing, went up to bash then started the tank and healer trees. Will be working through the healer tree over to mage for arsonist.

Took merciless attack and nodes for perry and block.

[fossil oak]

I'm so new to this game I just don't even know what's "good".

Thanks for the tips!

At least respeccing seems super easy.

[spiral plinth]

I have to air a grievance. Those things that divide in the air and turn into projectiles are terrible and they either need nerfed or something needs to be done with them

[strange nest]

You mean the ones the banshee's throw? You can dodge them. That's what I (mostly) do. I have a stack of health potions for the ones that I fail to dodge

[mossy ridge]

I think he means the wisps

[weary crane]

I can copy what I've got so far, but I'm not maxed. I'm recently returned from 1.5 years ago where the max was 35 and 114 points. I think at this point I'm up to maybe 39 and like 140ish points? Sec.

[misty sedge]

Just parry them

[weary crane]

@fossil oak Ok, pretty rough cut, got some stuff going on so effectively I'm working with just the one eye right now... 😢

Unfortunately you can't really do paladin like you would traditionally think of one in Enshrouded. (I at least think of limited burst heals, auras, etc.) so I'm thinking more of like "Frost Knight". You've got staff, maining ice blast, for range. While you can use magic gloves or rings to get +quick cast, I don't know that it's really the best idea.

Right now I've taken off Tower and Warden because they don't feel super necessary compared to the others. (Damage vs ranged and extra crit chance.) I'm also trying to work my way back into the stamina recovery node, as well as the 4th food slot. Sooo... flushed out max end game, add on Tower, Warden, 4th food slot, food regen, Retribution Aura, Greatsword boost, take the multi-nodes to max which you can (like I think I'm only at +2% crit here), and then very last bump Int as much as you can.

At range if there is a group of 3 or more, boop them with as many Ice shots as you can (usually you'll run out of mana right as they get into melee range) then finish the rest off with melee. If it's just 1-2 guys don't even bother with staff UNLESS you get super short on mana, then back out, Ice Ice baby until that stamina comes back.

If you were to build from zero, I guess where you go depends on your playstyle. I'd prioritize blink dodge (personally I can't play without that), then quick cast (because staff is just intollerably slow with none), then build down into warrior on 1hd stuff.

Note, you can pretty much ignore 2hd if you want, HOWEVER, once you get your ult, if you have them, swapping over, hitting ult, then swapping back to 1hd can situatually do some very massive damage. Personally I find the 1hd ult is fine for most cases, but like vs specific bosses that really big targeted hit is great, or if you are somehow totally surrounded the greatsword whirlwind can be helpful (though honestly I'd prefer to back out and just Fireball a group like that.)

Oh PS, you may want Power Parry, Bash, and Shockwave. Personally I felt I trigger those way too infrequently, so those are very low on my list and I'll get them near last.

[fossil oak]

Thanks man!

[weary crane]

Oh ps ps, also note that things like Retribution Aura require you be hit. If you parry, or are blocking, it seems like that doesn't work. (It never did back when I was playing 1.5 years ago and that looks unchanged.) Sooo... if you are good at parrying, or are like me and tend to hold block, then attack in a chain, it's almost never going to go off. So it really has extremely limited usefulness. (Especially since it really doesn't seem to do much vs heavier targets and is just meh against ranged ones.)

[leaden pivot]

perhaps they could expand to include deflection buffs in the future

[junior aurora]

does chain hit and mass desctruction work on a sword with lightning ?

[weary crane]

Ps Ps Ps if you play in groups you might also want to build out to Bloodletting. But, theoretically, in solo play, you probably won't get much benefit from that because if you are fighting at range you either aren't hurt, the Water Aura is enough to keep you topped off, or you are nearly dead and trying to panic get the hell outa there. In any of those cases the drops won't be super benefitial.

[weary crane]

I've been asking for different auras and such that don't require you be hit for years now, heh. I honestly think there needs to be about 20% more abilities, because it really feels like with the current interation you are kind of forced to go into different specs away from your main to cover areas the main isn't great in. (Which, I guess, is fine, but like with my build I'm 90% melee, 10% magic, and sure that's about how my points are split, but I shouldn't NEED to take those magic ones to fill in where melee is lacking.)

I could easily see half a dozen different ones down in the 'battle mage' area for that.

And things that improve defensiveness overall, like a node that increases block amount, reduces block stamina, etc.

I also put in a suggestion last week that now that they have gems having 'skill tree gems' would be nice. Things that can flip existing skills. Like there could be a gem that flips Water Aura to be based on Strength instead of Intellegence. Or there could be stamina gems, which could reduce the stamina cost of some skills, etc.

[leaden pivot]

no idea if they plan to expand the skill tree again or not

if higher levels and new maps come into play perhaps we'll see that

[weary crane]

It seems unlikely. It's taken them 2 years so far and we barely got anything changed, heh.

[leaden pivot]

to be fair they are developing the base game so their hands are pretty full

after initial development that's when things can get crazy seeing as they plan to continue making content

[weary crane]

Sure sure, and in all honesty it's a super casual game, so it's... fine... really as is.

[leaden pivot]

still its easier to impliment some things during these earlier stages too so we should always give our feedback asap

[wind arch]

I'm trying to unlock the Eternal Ice Bolt I spell but my quest is bugged.

[cunning mural]

what seems to be the problem?

[wind arch]

The "An Eternal Spell" quest is bugged, and it's my understanding I need to complete it in order to progress to find the other eternal spells

[cunning mural]

which eternal spell quest are you on?

what biome are you in?

[wind arch]

Ice bolt. The alchemist quest

[cunning mural]

which biome

springlands / low meadows? is it the starter quest one?

[wind arch]

low meadow

[cunning mural]

okay... what is bugged about it?

[wind arch]

The tomb is already open

[cunning mural]

so did someone else open it then?

[wind arch]

No, i'm playing private

[cunning mural]

did you kill the enemy down there and loot them?

[wind arch]

there were no enemie

enemies*

[cunning mural]

low meadows, hidden tomb entry... no enemies, and no loot?

[wind arch]

correct

[cunning mural]

from what I understand, I just did the quest myself right now...
you go in, get to the end, defeat an enemy, obtain spell on it's corpse, and the room looks like this

[wind arch]

There was no enemy or corpse for me

[cunning mural]

the only things I can think of then would be:

1. maybe you're playing with "less enemies" and that prevented the guy from spawning somehow?
   or
2. that you/someone did that quest before, was down there, slayed those enemies... and they haven't respawned yet.

[wind arch]

That's an interesting point on the #1

But I am playing on default

[cunning mural]

you could "verify integrity of game files" but there really isn't any reason they shouldn't spawn.
they either need to have been killed in that world save before
or... no that's really it? it's not a random thing, it's a "set in stone" kind of thing
less enemies or already killed

[wind arch]

Does in-game time pass if I sleep to next day?

[cunning mural]

if you mean for respawning things, no

[naive knot]

Hello! I'm new. Is there a way to disable attack "queue'ing"?

[grim breach]

Am I just missing them or is there only one skill that increases damage of two hand weapon types? I only see two handed great swords skill titan edge.

[raw bone]

What level does gem of agility return 20 stamina?

I've seen conflicting photos, and I don't want max level numbers... Just how much refunds the melee dash

[compact sandal]

Does this work with all weapons?

[bronze hollow]

yes

[compact sandal]

thank you

[cursive citrus]

I’m currently building an arcane archer. Focused on bow with eternal frost arrows and explosive arrrows. Combined with wands and stacking as much elemental damage as possible

It genuinely feels incredible even with 50 ish points currently

[noble sentinel]

hi guys, i just downloaded enshrouded few minutes ago.. can anyone help me limit my fps to 60? i only have vsyn on/off option.

[spark wagon]

What GPU do you have?

[noble sentinel]

RTX3080

[spark wagon]

Go to the Nvidia App

The tab, I think its called Graphics, look for the game settings for Enshrouded. There should be a max FPS setting somewhere

I'll be back at my pc in 5 mins so I can have a look. It'll be in german tho 😅

[noble sentinel]

im on nvdia app rn, i cant find where to change fps 😅.. sry im must be blind

[spark wagon]

There should be more options below that. Something something global

Unless they hid that away with the latest update, I'll check once Im back

[noble sentinel]

found it.. thank you so much..

[spark wagon]

Just dont change Global global or youre limiting everything to 60 😅

[noble sentinel]

this one right?

max frame rate 60 fps

i wanted to max quality but if my fps is more than 150, my gpu temp goes over board

[spark wagon]

Yeah if youre still under Graphics > Enshrouded and thats in the lower part, thats the setting

[noble sentinel]

im checking if 60 fps still move smooth.. other wise gonna have to make it higher XD

[spark wagon]

I got mine set at 60, as you can see, and I run a 5090 >.<

No need to cook my GPU for this lol

[lone yoke]

Ive a 4080 it has 3 wires that are held together by hope and prayers i love nvidea for this fire hazard soltution

🥹

[noble sentinel]

ahaha..

[spark wagon]

I have my 5090 at 90% powerdraw, I am not allowing that connector to draw its full 600W throught that flimsy cable

[lone yoke]

Yeah the cable is lame

Idk how they havent fixed it yet its so easy

Cant wait till they realise they can also add the power cable to the back sife of the card instead of the front side

I run a i7 8700k so i never should be able to reach full power on the 4080 i think

[noble sentinel]

i wanted to buy new pc since this one is already old.. but RAM price now a days is crazy

[lone yoke]

Ram is going down

Heard cpu is gnna start soon

[spark wagon]

Oh the CPU has no say in this. Just hit up CP2077 with pathtracing and DLSS and your card will draw whatever it can lol

[noble sentinel]

i'm waiting maybe next year.. hope it goes down to normal price

[lone yoke]

No reason to do that on purpose i havent bought my solar pannels yet

I wnna upgrade the pc but wait till they release something nicer for 4k gaming

Current upgrades are kinda meh

[spark wagon]

Honestly, the 4090 and 5090 were the first 2 cards where I just went... okay, no tinkering needed, set it to max, turn on framegen and DLSS, turn down powertarget to 90% and be done with it

all the cards before I always overclocked, adjusted boost curves etc etc.

no more.

Plug and play. Be done with it

Im at 80-ish % 4k tho, not full 4k

5120x1440p

[lone yoke]

When i got my 1080ti when it released i was very happy it worked great out of the box even 4k gaming and looked awesome

My 4080 went from long to tiny and thick

Its water cooled as well

And instead of adding the pipe part to the shorter end they put it on the fat side

Increasing the thickness

Than the fire hazard cables on top

Great engineering

🥹

[noble sentinel]

how long to change liquid for water cool set up? is it 6 months?

[lone yoke]

Ive it for 2 years i think and havent changed it

So far great stuff

My 1080ti i had since like 2018 ish gave it to my dad and it still runs great

[noble sentinel]

water cooled?

[lone yoke]

Nah that one was air

But still works 1080ti was awesome

[noble sentinel]

yeah.. same mine i gave to my brother.. still works for 8 years now..

[lone yoke]

If the 3080ti had frame regen i prob would have gotn it instead of the 4080 tbh

Yeah it was an amazing card

First one to trully play 4k decent

But yeah hope that they release a decent card soon than i will upgrade my pc

The 4090 had great power but heard the vram got waay too hot for comfort

[noble sentinel]

i was thinking RTX 5060 is it good?

[lone yoke]

Yeah its a good card

[noble sentinel]

hope before GTA release ram price is already back to normal price

[lone yoke]

Im looking a little bit more towards amd though now a days

Nvidea is rlly great but they dont give all the extra fancy software updates to older cards

So unless you buy their best every year amd might catch up

Bcz they seem to kinda do it

[noble sentinel]

yeah that's what my friend also suggested to me

[lone yoke]

🫠

3080ti should have frame gen

But instead its a 40 series+

💀

[spark wagon]

AMD is doing the same thing with FSR4 tho

and this turned into a topic for https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1105417250065879150

[noble sentinel]

ahahha

[lone yoke]

I hope your snow drops

[noble sentinel]

its a good learning info for me someone with little knowledge about tech stuff

[lone yoke]

Im also no tech veteran but its always good to ask so far 2 years without water change nor issues with it even moved the pc with the coolant in it but now back to combat and skills before we get send to the dungeons

[noble sentinel]

Qq though regarding AMD, is AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT better than RTX5060?

a little price diff but idk about their performance

[lone yoke]

Overal i think amd is better but when games are proper optimised for ai tools like dlss nvidea usualy beats em

[lone yoke]

Get the one that is cheapest in that case

[noble sentinel]

Thank you for the info..

[lone yoke]

Im playing as a tank any pro tips here

[noble sentinel]

i last played Aug 2024, haha i got no idea any build now.. my build was reset and i forgot the basic. I'm actually thinking of just starting over again.

[lone yoke]

Ive picked it up during a sale last week

Lvl 11 now having quite some fun

I play as a tank and my gf as a mage currently

[noble sentinel]

im mage back then.. im gonna play mage again maybe..

tank is the unkillable right, they have lifesteal

[lone yoke]

Mage sounds full i usualy like suport roles like healer or tank

[noble sentinel]

im more on backliner.. nuker healer and builder is my role in my squad haha.

btw qq, do we need to build house for the npc's?

[north nest]

kind of, they need a bed and roof over the bed

i don't like building so my "base" is just a giant floor of all the different crafting tables and chests, then "upstairs" is just a floor of beds with a roof over it

[lone yoke]

Would love a class that cooks with great buff items sadly need more ppl for great benefits

[lone yoke]

Yeah ive build them all houses that fit em

Make a cool village i hope

[lament shard]

They don't all need houses, my Alchemist has a tower.

[lone yoke]

Thats kinda cool ngl

What does he do in the tower

[lament shard]

Just wanders around it

But it's all set up with most of his stuff

[weary crane]

Not a pro level game. it's effectively a cozy game. The nodes are super logical just look around at the tree parts you can reach. Really the only thing I could think of that might be critical as a melee person is I'd recommend Blink and Emergency Blink to get out of stun lock.

[weary crane]

Not as much as you'd think. A big hit is going to chunk you down, period. It's not like other games where a tank is significantly more durable than other classes. Lifesteal works by doing damage. If you can't or aren't doing damage currently, you aren't getting anything back.

[weary crane]

Mage can run support. Don't think of it so much as the traditional 3 roles, because there is a lot of bleed between different things here. Like ALL magic is Int based, so your Water Aura heal will scale off of Int, your fireball damage will scale off Int. So offensive / support Mage are really the same thing here. It just depends which abilities you take. For support you'd want the one that has up to a 15% chance on magic damage to generate supportive balls. (I forget the name, but it's up in Trickster), and of course Water Aura.

[weary crane]

That will probably only work well until the late 30s. At that point your crafting stations start taking up a lot of room. (My current biggest base is like that. That was the one I had at lv 35 back in the day when that was max level.)

I'm now starting to move to a place where they can get their own areas. I'll probably be targeting 4x3 (at the big 4x4 squares) for their crafting area, then probably 2x3 for their bedroom areas, and giving everyone different buildings.

[lament kiln]

Hey all, I'm back to the game since some time off before the update, and I notice my fishing baits are ineffective, but I can't find anything in the patch notes about this change. What are you all using for bait now?

[north nest]

huh? just make the floor bigger lmao

[weary crane]

Lighting becomes more of an issue the bigger your open space gets.

[north nest]

mine is fine

[weary crane]

Like my main base that is like yours is something like 9x12? (In the big squares) and I had to put torches pretty much every big square otherwise it was basically pitch black at night (with just wall lighting)

[north nest]

only beds need roofs, crafting stations don't

[weary crane]

Plus it's not just that. The stations are more than 1 big unit tall now, so that's becoming an issue as well.

[brave quest]

I always just build / dig custom themed areas for each storage or work area.

We have a cliff side hobbit hole right now.

Amazing how the base can feel vibrantly different just on where and how you build

[wise karma]

Question, has anybody tried to use thowables as primary weapons with success?

[sour rain]

for end game wizard stuff is staff or wands the best now given that wands has an ult and staff doesnt

[north nest]

the "ult" doesn't change much imo, wand is best for single target dps while staff still aoes hardest

[silver elbow]

has anyone else have the issue of great swords prioritizing targeting inanimate objects like farm dirt or a wooden wall when using the hold left attack rather than the enemy infront of you?

[cunning mural]

yes/kind of?
heavy attacks (at least on 1H) can only hit one thing, so they hit the inanimate object first... and ignore the enemy in front of you...

[silver elbow]

so the heavy attack on 2 handed does attack one item at a time. so it's not just me. IDK why it prioritizes that way but good to know I am not the only one.

[cunning mural]

likely just.. "They coded it that way" and didn't realize

[lone yoke]

Emergency blink sounds nice didnt know it existed

[mossy ridge]

Absolute must have - I've found it a bit wild this patch, sometimes does like a double distance teleport - but still, absolutely vital skill

Only reason to take the other dodge is a team based backstabber build really, blinks with emergency is just so much better

[lone yoke]

Nice indeed

[sharp turret]

Is Eagle Eye a passive skill or do I need to press an additional button than right click to zoom in with it?

[misty sedge]

This may be true at earlier levels, but I tend to refund it around mid-late game as I'm just not in a position where I'm liable to be stunned by an enemy

I think the only thing that stuns me nowadays is mismanaging my stamina and blocking at the wrong time, but Emergency Blink doesn't help there anyway

[weary crane]

Some info I’ve found on “Frost”…,

First “freeze an enemy” is inaccurate. You can see the Frost debuff on them as a swirly snowflake under them. It does not seem to stack. It just seems to be applied or not. As a rough guess I’d say it reduces movement and attack speed about 15%.

Second, and this was why I thought it wasn’t working, is when you hit with an Ice Bolt it causes a poof of cold which applies the Frost debuff. I think it lasts about 5 seconds. So if you are staff/melee hybrid they will likely already have the debuff by the time they get to melee.

Soooo… yes it can slightly help, but it doesn’t “freeze” in the sense of them being immobilized and not attacking, and it’s not more than staff ice shots do (though the application would run out without it, and with only 3 in quick charge I’m not fast enough to get a shot off vs multiple gator badguy enemies because invariably one will charge and interrupt the cast.)

[lusty zephyr]

Hey can anyone tell me what the yellow bar is for above the aiming reticle?

I've seen it change around enemies - but haven't figured out it's exact purpose so I'm curious

[weary crane]

Maybe it’s range and damage drop off? 🤔

[mossy ridge]

Pretty sure that's the focus bar for the special

[lusty zephyr]

hmmm I'll I haven't unlocked the special ability for bow yet 🤔💭

[lusty zephyr]

oooh I'll have to test that one

[mossy ridge]

It's definitely the focus bar, just tested it - you still get the bar even if you don't have the focus attack

[lusty zephyr]

oh weird - makes it kinda confusing - buuuuut most people are oblivious to hud and UI elements and don't notice them unless they're immediately relevent lol

[weary crane]

Makes sense since you can put it on Q and then it's not on the bar at all.

Though since all specials share the one bar it does seem odd it's not just going by the big main bar. 🤷‍♂️

[sonic gyro]

Guys, before posting a thread on a feedback forum:
Does anything change/suppose to change when you destroy Fell's glowing growth?

[mossy ridge]

Shroud roots?

[dusty garden]

is main use bow good and then 2de weapon greatsword great combo ? someone can help me

[mossy ridge]

Haven't seen anyone using that combo - I use it the other way around with GS main, bow secondary - it's good

You're probably better off using daggers though, since it's all in the same tree and easier to spread points - having bow as secondary it doesn't do a lot of damage for me - I just needed a ranged option for certain enemies and mechanics

[real bay]

hello where do you farm the sunpiercer armor set?

[sonic gyro]

Sorry, was away.No, i meant blue bulbs that counted as skillshot when you shoot them off

[lusty zephyr]

Does each weapon's special have their own seperatly tracked bar? I've been assuming it's just one bar - for no reason than I just didn't notice the bar unter the item bar changing when I swapped weapons

[weary crane]

Not from what I can tell. I've got 1hd and 2hd, and they share one bar. Soooo... unless it's by like different weapon category (melee / ranged) then I'd think it's just one bar.

[lusty zephyr]

Yeah I just tested it;s the same bar lol

And the one ubove the bow reticle went up too

I will say that shooting the magic ice arros didn't seem to change the bar

[cunning mural]

I grabbed the pickaxe specialization/focus skill so I can max it out before battle via just... digging at walls and stuff, lol

[cunning mural]

projectiles and all weapons need to hit something, usually an enemy though

[lusty zephyr]

Yes. I was hitting an enemy with the wand, bow, 1h, and daggers, and the bow didn't move the bar.

looking for more enemies to keep testing

Hol'up...

Weapons th you do not have the ability unlocked for do no affect the bars level I think

[steady crystal]

Dealing damage with spells does fill the bar and the staff does not have a special skill , using the wand specialization as possible without using the wand to fill up the bar by filling it up with spell cast

[cunning mural]

ooo neat

[lusty zephyr]

I haven't tested the staff - ONLY bow, 1h, daggers, and wand.
Bow and daggers did not fill the meter and I do not have the skill unlocked for them. BUT 1h and wand DID fill the meter and I DO have the skill on locked for them.
If the staff doesn't have the ability AT ALL but DOES fill the meter that DOES NOT change the results of my tests... It just mean that staff magic fills the bar but doesn't have the ability.

[cursive citrus]

You can craft the rare versions from the blacksmith with materials from the Veilwater Basin. Otherwise the epic and legendary versions drops from chests in the Veilwater Basin

I would also suggest using the Greatsword Gauntlets found in Goldrock Saddle

As it’s a piece of armor that doesn’t reduce wet time, and is easily attainable. On top of the immense boosts to GS damage it gives

If you’re using the megalodon Greatsword, sun piercer arms are actually worse, because it boosts slashing damage, which the Megalodon has a split damage type between Slashing and Shock

And it leans more into shock

Whereas if you’re using the Guard of the North sword. It’s the reverse

[nimble otter]

Not sure if this is the right channel but, trying to get some up to date information on what affects daggers directly.

Does "melee damage" buff them?
Does "Cutting melee damage" buff them?
Do some skills, like the jump up to flyer work for them?

Trying to figure out where to go next with my tree, and would prefer skipping the testing phase for this

As a general side note, is it possible to get Vukah daggers at higher level in epic/legendary? Loved the damn things, and now I'm stuck with "lesser" daggers

[cunning mural]

the melee "cutting" and other types of damage should affect daggers... strength does not affect daggers, only Dex... as for "Melee damage" from armor... maybe... I don't know that one, I'd have to test it...
but there is specifically armor with "+dagger damage" and that is blatantly for daggers only

oh, and the Vukah Daggers, if they're the ||"Sacrificial Vukah Daggers" are a Lore item and thus are craftable, but only up to "Rare" and the level for them depends on your progression||

[nimble otter]

Damn it, was really hoping I could get them later as a world drop or something

Crafted ones just don't cut it, considering they miss out on that second 5% leech

Strength I assumed as much, just trying to figure out if I can milk some of the red tree sections for more damage or not

[cunning mural]

you can, just not strength specifically, but the cutting and piercing, and "evasion attack" should work with daggers, and jump attack and crash down too

[nimble otter]

👌

Cheers, I'll wrap up my bow skills then mess with the red side a bit more I guess

Will likely just have to accept that I need to run the damn leech rings

I'll keep hope that later on there will be more leech daggers. Since I'm the closest damn thing we have to a tank, Imma need it 💀

[native sapphire]

is gem of currents the best in slot gem for end game currently? prolly any ice or shock weapon with that slotted?

[cursive citrus]

I would say yes

[azure field]

Before I look at the feedback page, I wanted to ask if anyone knows if, when they update wand combat, that they're planning on adding some form of animation canceling mid attack? I noticed that its easy with melee mid swing to block and dodge, but not so mid attack with wand (even with the blink ability). Would definitely help with survivability, since I've died a couple times now because I can't run away. Maybe its just a skill issue lol

[cunning mural]

we have heard they are going to update the mage combat in 1.0... but we don't know what or how

[azure field]

Indeed. Thank you for responding! I'll go look at the feedback page

Yay! there was a wand animation canceling suggestion already, in case anyone in the future is searching for these keywords.

[trim trail]

Is Counter Battery (Damage against ranged enemies is increased by 8% per level) your damage against ranged type enemies like archers/mages, or damage you deal to enemies from a range (like your hitting them with magic or bow-n-arrow)?

[raw bone]

Question with Blood Rage... Is there a "melee" weapon that can kill further than 5 meters?

[misty sedge]

I think the only thing that could possibly count for this would be the projectile from the 1H special attack

[raw bone]

That is what I thought...... it makes the "upgrades" to blood rage feel very lack luster

[misty sedge]

the upgrades only help in multiplayer, literally

unless you get miraculously lucky and one mob manages to kill another

I've had the big boss Drak kill smaller Drak and proc blood rage

[raw bone]

Thought I will say, I'm having fun with blood rage and soul vial gem

Gem of Soul Reaping

I feel like I'm abusing it to it's fullest though

[misty sedge]

also in a very specific instance, not sure if you are aware, but blood rage procs on those rock spikes the big Drak throw out

[raw bone]

I've not technically faced the Drak yet

[misty sedge]

Blood Rage good, I just wish the upgrades were a bit more meaningful for solo players

[raw bone]

Even if it was duration

[steel dune]

kick skill can be used with two hand weapons?

[noble coral]

Yes

[mossy igloo]

Can anyone tell me if the fire arrow with the 2 second stun works on the dragon after this update?

[grim frigate]

Guys do you have some tips to beat the Dragon's son. I just cant beat him.

I cant beat him

Its possible some friends log into my game to help me if it?

I spend 128 stun arrows but without success

[raw bone]

Which one is this?
The actual Dragon, or the Wisp?

[grim frigate]

The one in the frozzen montain

[spark wagon]

Well since its a Dragon Youngling, I suppose we have localization understanding problems

[grim frigate]

It keep fliyng

and when i cant drop it, It just get up so fast

[raw bone]

Oh I see

[grim frigate]

And need so much stun arrows of it

[raw bone]

Not localization I just thought it was a dragon, never read the youngling part after

[grim frigate]

I dont get it with 128 stun arrows

[raw bone]

Stun arrows and parry the meteors

[grim frigate]

hummmm

I didnt it

Will try it later

Eletrical staff works?

for stun?

[grim frigate]

OMG have a Wisp yet hahahah I Toasted

[cursive citrus]

Keep in mind, you can parry his meteors back at him. Which fills the bar very quickly

[earnest wing]

I am not sure if this is intended, or is a bug:
I created an ALT.
That ALT is not getting skill points for Elixir Wells.

This is in the same dedicated server as my main.
My main had previously cleared the Elixir Well.
My Alt cleared it solo.
Level 5 Alt, who has a total of 11 skill points (should be at least 13??).
Thanks for any information 🙂

[cursive citrus]

As someone who is also leveling another character in my main save

You need to re clear an elixir well and cut the roots down for the points

Even if they’ve been cleared before

[earnest wing]

Thanks, I did cut down the root in the Elixir well. Unless that one only gives 1 point (the first one, just east of the Braelyn Bridge). At level 5 I figured I should have 10 skill points. I'll have to test that.

The next one, just west of the Springlands Ancient Spire did give me 3 points as expected.

[mortal sparrow]

Sup guys! Just sharing some legendary items specs that I didn't saw here yet.

For those who're searching by the name and not the image: Sunpiercer Helmet, Quetzal Hunter Chest, Waveborne Ritualist Gloves, Radiant Paladin Boots, Skull Stalker Shoes and Tidecaller Shoes

[grim frigate]

And where can i found Sunpiercer Helmet?

[mossy ridge]

You can craft a blue rare version - the rest is RNG drops from chests

[weary crane]

Staff neither has a special nor does it build skill. (Only ones where you've unlocked the special will build into it. Ex; you unlocked 1 hd, but not 2 hd. When using a 2 hd you do NOT build into ultimate.)

[cursive sorrel]

Are you referring to focus?

[weary crane]

The crit perks and life on crit will.

[weary crane]

99% sure it's against "ranged" enemies, no matter what your range, or damage type is (magic, ranged, melee).

[cursive citrus]

This is correct

It’s a universal damage modifier

[weary crane]

Maybe I wasn't responding to the original person, but it looked like it was a question of if Staff had an unlockable ult and built into the ult skill charge.

[cursive citrus]

Same with Sunpiercers arms boosting all damage vs melee enemies by 5%

[weary crane]

I'm assuming it won't have one because the spells are varried, and the reason they added them to the others were they were 'one note' in what they did.

[cursive citrus]

Greatsword Gauntlets boosting damage vs flying enemies

[cursive sorrel]

k - not sure if this is how you meant it or not but staff does build focus charge for the r skill use

[cursive citrus]

Etc

[cursive sorrel]

at least, for me it does - i only have the wand skill so maybe its tied to that

[weary crane]

If that's true I've never seen it.

Could be wand does, and staff doesn't. I only use staff.

[cursive sorrel]

just to make sure i wasnt crazy i went and tested it just now. and yep, it grew when i hit something with eternal ice

[weary crane]

And if it follows the others it would only build skill if you had the ult unlocked for that type.

[cursive sorrel]

the only focus skill i have unlocked is wand (not even axe/pick) so i guess it could be tied to that

[weary crane]

Ummmm I'll watch more carefully, but as far as I know it's never charaged on my staff use. (I'm 'Frost Knight' build so only have like 12 total points in the magic area.)

[placid crater]

Hai, gem forging is quite clanky isn't it? I can't see the gem statuses when upgrading or forging

[weary crane]

Looking in the tree there IS a wand specalization, so if you've unlocked that, wand would build alt.

There is not for staff, so it should definately not be building into it.

[cursive sorrel]

yes definite. but it does build

[weary crane]

The UI for that is... bad.

Finding a critter to boop with eternal ice to check.

100% no. Zero charge on loading in, 9 ice staff boops against aligator, zero charge increase. Finished him off with melee, every hit built charge.

[cursive sorrel]

before and after usign the steaff

[weary crane]

So... if staff is building charge, then that's likely a bug connected to wand.

That or because my character / world is from >1.5 years ago.

[cursive sorrel]

that would make sense

wand spec not age lol

[weary crane]

Cause when I've speced out of 2hd ult, it never generated ult even though I for sure saw 1hd/2hd both built into it and could be used when both were unlocked.

Probs. I have like zero interest in wand since I'm Paladin-ish (so big boop at far range with staff, or smash the face in melee)

[cursive sorrel]

i just specd out of wand specialty and have no bar now

(which tracks0

let me see what happens with a random other spec

yep - zero charge from staff with just the pickaxe spec

and soon as i spec back into wand spec it works again. So ... hidden benefit or bug?

[cursive citrus]

I’ll get on and test my spellblade

But I’m almost positive that I don’t generate focus with my staff

And only do with my Greatsword

[normal swan]

do dagger skills properly add damage to daggers with the update now?

[weary crane]

I'd think it's likely a bug. Though I'm just guesing from a design decision that the ultimate was given to things that aren't flexible. The stafff can do all the things, so it doesn't really need an ult because it's doing all kinds of different moves.

Technically bug or not there's no Staff ult, so you couldn't like, do an ult where none exists even with full charge, heh.

[cursive sorrel]

right, which is why it doesnt generate any focus when you dont have a spec for a weapon

but it does generate focus and i use it to power my wand focus all the time. It could be a bug, but the fact that it only works with one spec (wands) may indicate its not - or that wand 'shots' and staff charges are the same thing / related thing in the code (and so a bug/unintended)

[steel dune]

damn KICK + twohand weapons KICK ASS build so OP

[cursive sorrel]

maybe your wand just has an built in ' Eternal Wand Shot' in the background 😁

[weary crane]

But that was my point with 1hd / 2hd melee. If you only have the ult unlocked for one of them, the other WILL NOT generate charge (nor can you use it's ult because you don't have it unlocked.) Which is why wand / staff charging on either with wand unlocked seems like a bug.

Because if you don't have the staff ult unlocked it should not generate any, but since it doesn't even have one it definately shouldn't.

Unless... squints that's the logic of it... because it can't ult it generates ult for the wand... but that'd be... weird. And definately should be explained in the game somewhere if that's intentional.

[cursive sorrel]

yep, i can see your point for it being a bug. Maybe the devs will be nice and it will stay / be enshrined because wand combat needs a little help i feel.

[weary crane]

What do you think is missing? I've never used it, never saw the point doing wand being melee/staff Paladin-like. But I've seen recent build guides that say if you unlock the wand things it can super wreck things.

[cursive sorrel]

its ... ok.

so advantages - always have range, all the time for no "cost" (arrows/charge) - awesome.

Its ult has a suction action, which helps keep them off you.

It uses elemental damage which can be great for 'effective' hits easily

cons - yeah you can wear a tank chest but you are still loosing out on a lot of tankyness. its squishy. One on level fel with the big sword / mace takes about a 3rd to half of my health, and thats with the best health food i have access too. Unless you cross spec / have friends (lol) its rough

it uses elemental damage. I carry two wands to deal with resistances - that means twice the upgrade cost, twice the hope of finding a good item

there is something weird with its interaction with parry - the parry doesn't cancel out (any? enough?) of the animation time, so if you are even still barely in your attack animation you can't parry which feels terrible - which means you spend a lot of time either waiting around for them to hit so you can safely attack after a parry or dodging which uses a lot of stamina.

[cunning mural]

let's assume the staff is creating ult for the wand, and they will "fix" it once the staff ult is added... if a staff ult is added

[cursive sorrel]

now keep in mind im only level 20 and mostly through the highlands so ... maybe max level its fine and amazing and these pains will go away, but i kinda feel like those rough edges then should be smoothed out.

[mossy igloo]

I am running a bow, dagger, and 1 handed melee build. I have points to spend but not sure where to place them now. Should I keep increasing melee area and does melee damage affect the dagger also? Or only the specific nodes that say daggers.

[cunning mural]

this is a loaded and confusing question

melee damage:
if STRENGTH? no (which is what the main attributes page is)
if RELATED to melee damage? (cutting, pierce) yes
but then there's also Dex, which is what affects daggers and... idk if it's even listed there

I kinda wish Daggers just benefitted from both strength and dex honestly

[weary crane]

Yeah the devs have some confusing wording choices. Like "ranged", well, magic is ranged too, sooo.

[cunning mural]

yep

[weary crane]

Probably choosing wording of "strength, dexterity, magic" and leaving those as the 3 types would have been clearer. Then things like 'melee' would affect, well anything melee, so daggers and 1hd/2hd.

At least there is the break-out page now. That makes things a teeny bit clearer... sort of... heh.

[mossy igloo]

Does anyone even use beast master? That line doesn't seem to do anything for any weapons at all ...

Ok so is the magic damage only attributed to spells and wands? Or will this affect magic fire damage on my bow?????

[river coral]

works on your melee weapons too. been working on a warrior wizard and you can blend some things

[vivid tendon]

for the beast master, wukah will not attack you and also on 50 meters rage they will protect ya, and animals will protect ya as well.

[weary crane]

Just remember (haven't confirmed) but that's a number of a number. So in theory, a weapon that does like 50 piercing, +10 fire, +10 fire, and you had a +30% to fire node in the mage tree, that'd change to 50 +13 +13. Soooo... theoretically wouldn't bump it a huge amount.

[cursive citrus]

Just tested

Staff does not give focus with my Greatsword

[mortal sparrow]

You will only get focus from weapons that you have unlock the ultimate, you can get focus to use the Greatsword ultimate by using a pickaxe if you have the pickaxe skill 😂

[river coral]

yea, thats what i think. you could maybe gem it too for fire

[mossy ridge]

Some melee weapons are split 50/50 with physical and elemental types

[cursive sorrel]

yes but as we were talking earlier, unlocking the Wand spec allows your staff to give you focus

bug or hidden feature remains to be seen

[weary crane]

Except earlier we found that wand special unlock ALSO caused staff to generate ultimate.

[weary crane]

I'd be nice if gems like that gave it an animation. I want flaming / frost swords. 🙂

[cursive sorrel]

weapon effects would be a hella awesome cosmetic

[mossy ridge]

Kind of odd they don't, they just have glow - since enemies do have flaming swords

[cursive sorrel]

possibly just a 'hasn't been prioritized' yet

[mossy ridge]

Could well be... who knows what 1.0 will bring

[lusty zephyr]

These were my findings as well :3

[mossy igloo]

Another question but about armor ... what does the state +15 Blunt Armor do???

[weary crane]

Reduces damage from blunt. I think I've heard armor is always a 1:1 ratio, so that's 30 less of blunt damage hitting you. (Unlocking both.)

[lusty zephyr]

Resistance to that damage type- iirc

[mossy igloo]

Ah ... ok so that is good for me right?

[cunning mural]

in general yes

[weary crane]

If you are getting hit with blunt, sure.

Getting hit by anything else, doesn't help, heh.

[mossy ridge]

Those parts are pretty much just the filler stats - they're not really important to consider

[weary crane]

Casters with the spinny blades are what wreck me. I'm guessing those are magic since I'm mostly melee and it's a way lower resistance rating.

It's like 'ya know, for a mostly tanky peep with like 20 con, nearly 2k hp buffed, I sure don't feel very tanky when things like that rip off 25% of my hp, then stun me, so I can't do anything about further hits'.

Sure, I can try and stun break blink dodge away and go 'shhhhtttapp' and try to boop back with ice shot, but nope, too slow, shuunk shuunk shunk, just circle knifed again.

[lament shard]

Fell sicklesythes are just plain deadly to anyone not use to them

They're the toughest fell minibosses around

[weary crane]

I meeeeannn I'm not new. Got to beyond max level back in the day. (Maxed, then grinded out to get more gold gear beyond that, probably had 250+ play hours over 1.5 years ago.) There are... more of them now. And there's ||some lizardy (females?) in the new water area who do it||, but it's like 'am I a tank build or not'?

It's like if they 1-2 shot non tank peeps then I'd feel better, but since I'm just me, I have no idea if it's 'my build' or not. I certainly can't be more defensive from what I can tell in the tree.

[lament shard]

It's just what they do

They are a stab them before they stab you enemy

But if you pot objects between the blades and you they can miss for no stamina cost

[prime forge]

hello! I've been trying to test my ranger build, and I know Arsonist increases my explosive arrows damange, but I've heard conflicting info about whether my elemental arrows damage such as eternal arrows and explosive arrows scale off of intelligence. Can someone please tell me which is correct?

[glad adder]

is Fireball good for structural attacks like an exploding arrow is?

[potent stratus]

nah

[cursive sorrel]

as much as i can figure out - Melee is synonymous with 1h/2h sometimes daggers, ranged is bows only, and magic is staff/wand - i think they are mostly hard categories.

But i also dont think anyone knows 100% for certain

respecing is pretty cheap, you could just put a bunch of points into int and see if your damage changes from having 0 points in it vrs having points in dex

[glad adder]

quick check with my archer's Eternal Ice Arrow 2, adding two points of INT did not change the damage

[cursive citrus]

I've seen this miss info even perpetuated by "content creators". In Enshrouded there are many key words highlighted in the tree, Melee, Ranged, Magic. These refer to how they interact with talents. Elemental damage however has nothing to do with the Magic keyword, yes most spells do elemental damage. But take Arsonist for example, each rank increases Fire damage by 10%. Whether you had 9 Intelligence or 20 intelligence, an Explosive Arrow 3 does 38 Fire damage+3.8 additional per Arsonist rank. All the Elemental boosts are universal damage buffs to those specific Elements. However the bonuses to Cutting/Blunt and Piercing in the red trees are Melee only, so you couldnt boost your normal arrow damage with them. They do however boost things like Daggers, even though Daggers do not scale with Strength

[void juniper]

yea I COMPLETELY understand

[exotic holly]

Is there a chance the developers will revisit the parry system? I think it's the most important thing to change in the game. Parry needs to reset the animations for each attack. Otherwise, the game becomes: 1) I stand still and wait for the enemies to attack. 2) I attack randomly and let the enemies hit me...

[alpine pewter]

for the most part is the night sanctums just a entrance to a gem forge with a chest?

[mossy ridge]

Some contain cosmetic sets etc

[raw bone]

It's more like, you have to remember each enemies' attack pattern to be effective

[exotic holly]

No. Remembering every enemy's pattern works in a game like Space Marines, where I can attack mercilessly, knowing I can interrupt the attack animation at any time and parry. In this game, even if I see an enemy about to attack me, I can't parry if I'm already attacking another enemy. Knowing enemy animations in this game only works if you stand still and wait for the enemy to make the first move. It rewards passive play, but there's no point in rewarding it. It takes all the fun out of it.

furthermore, as if that wasn't enough, they included the move that allows you to throw a kick, and this kick instantly stuns the enemies (a hundred thousand times more effective than the parry. It makes no sense)

[raw bone]

Ah this, yes I agree with

This gets solved by allowing anim-canceling for things like blocking and stopping the anim-cancel on being attacked

[raw bone]

Speaking from experiance, the skill kick is NOTHING close to a good parry

even with max dex

[ashen lantern]

How does the eternal frost arrows interact with magic damage?

[cursive citrus]

Scroll up, I did a whole breakdown

[ashen lantern]

Damn, what a shame. Could've been great for build diversity.

[cursive citrus]

You can still lean into it

[ashen lantern]

For 30% increased damage? When im still in early game? I don't think I will.

[weary crystal]

Hi. Doing the DpS swift swordsman for my character. Just something that bothers me. Sometimes I trigger a ”bonus strike” without clicking attack. It just comes during combat and I tend to lose control when this happens. Is this a bug or a feature?

[raw bone]

That would be a feature that player don't like thus we would class as a bug.
Fill out a bug report and we can hope they adjust it

[glass ferry]

Hopefully this doesn't make me look too dumb, but what is a "bonus strike"? I am unfamiliar with that term. Was it a mechanic we added with update 8?

It does sound weird that something would be happening without user input, though

[spark wagon]

Sounds like the attack-"queuing" some people mentioned, where if you hit attack twice before the character actually attacked once it will do another attack.

[glass ferry]

Ah I see, the way they wrote, it sounded like attacks were happening with no input at all, but queued attacks would make more sense

[raw bone]

100% this

[ashen lantern]

Another question regarding bows. This weapon level bonus uses the term "Magic Shock Damage" would this be classed as magic damage?

[raw bone]

That is covered above, but short answer is no

[ashen lantern]

smh

alright thanks

If i didn't ask the question here, would i be stupid to assume it would scale with magic damage increases tho?

[glad adder]

some of the wording of things IS annoyingly vague

or non-specific

[weary crystal]

idk. It comes sometimes. I tap the mouse attack 1, 2 and I get attack 1 and 2 but then there is a 3rd "bonus" attack that I did not trigger with the attack click. DK how or why it triggers.

[exotic holly]

Yesterday I tried the special attack with the bow (the one that allows you to unleash a more powerful attack after several hits), but the bar never filled. It works with the one-handed sword and the magic wand, but not with the bow. Is this a known bug?

[glad adder]

kind of obvious question but still gonna ask: do you have the Bow Specialization skill?

[mortal sparrow]

Guys, is there a way to find a better version of a weapon that is used to be found in the early areas? Like Wolf's Snarl Longbow or Forest Longbow but at lv 50?

[dusky oracle]

i'd like to ask, its true that after update 8 the devs stated that kindlewastes armor set such as radiant paladin, elder, and eagle eye are obtainable from chest even in higher level regions. but when i try to farm for veilwater basin armor set especially for sunpiercer and golden bulwark because i'm a melee, the chest just continuously gives me kindlewastes armor set. does anyone experience the same thing or do i just have a bad luck?

[misty sedge]

Just bad luck. I haven't gotten any Veilwater melee sets but I have gotten Veilwater mage and ranger armor

Honestly, I barely find any Radiant Paladin either. Just unlucky.

[mortal vapor]

in the current version of the game, can you make a build that tries to buff the magic damage on melee weapons? or did they revert that so the skill tree that buffs say shroud damage, doesn't increase melee weapon's shroud damage?

[cobalt bridge]

it's "all shroud/shock/fire/ice".
It is not restricted to spells-only.

[mortal vapor]

so just as an example, like with this weapon, the shroud damage +5.3, +5.3, should be buffed by the 'Dark Arts' skill tree node? does it just not display in the backpack UI?

or like does this node, increase the 'Magic Damage', on the melee weapon above? or it won't any only buffs weapons that are classified as 'Magic Weapon'?

[mortal sparrow]

The "Dark Arts" skill will increase the shroud damage of your sword, but intelligence will not, the same occurs with STR and dagger, the only attribute that increases the dagger damage is DEX.

[cobalt bridge]

yea, it's still bugged for intelligence but we're waiting some big fix around this part of the game in 1.0

[mortal vapor]

Ok cool, thank you. Nothing seems to affect the damage numbers that display in the backpack UI, so I am really confused what is intended by the devs.

i.e. I tested getting these nodes individually, and even with all of them placed, the damage display is still the exact same:

[exotic holly]

I spent the skill points needed to unlock the bow's special ability. The one that allows you to fire the special shot after a certain number of shots. It's the same thing I did with the one-handed weapon and the magic wand.

[glad adder]

Just wanted to be sure. The only other thing I can suggest is that you have to HOLD the button to fire the bow's special shot, in my experience. I dunno what else might causing trouble.

[glad adder]

I test this stuff with a practice dummy, the Hunter can craft them. There's also a couple at Longkeep, right near where you're supposed to build your first Flame Altar. I find the backpack UI... and the UI in general, such as under the "All Attributes" button... isn't always the most informative

[cursive sorrel]

ive been saying the same thing - its particularly grevious with the wand which animation seems to continue longer than the actual swing (maybe including part of the projectile leaving) making it very difficult to parry if you arent careful

perfectly makes sense if there is a portion of the animation that cant be interrupted - the middle bit - but canceling out early and near the end would be a huge upgrade to the entire combat system

[prime parcel]

Fishing Mechanics: Does your luck wear down the more you fish? I've been getting 95% only common fish with Epic Bait (the crafted one) and Lucky Rod, thought maybe it's bugged so I switched to simply Frogs as bait, then got about 5 epic Fish in the first like 50 throws, after that again to absolutely no epic fish for 100+ throws, all just common ones

[weary crane]

I'm pretty sure the weapons are NOT displaying passive tree or equipment boosts.

So, like on your example if you had +30% shroud damage that should show +6.89 (ideally green or something so we know it's boosted.) Or if you've built into melee and have +15% cutting, that'd be 30.5 instead of 26.5. In my respecing a few times I've never seen any of the numbers change based on passive perks or bonuses from equipment.

[cursive citrus]

The displayed number will never change. Except from its own upgrades. However it’s absolutely boosted by any relevant talents

[mortal vapor]

thx all, tested on the training dummy, all of the traits are boosting the damage aside from intelligence points that boost magic damage (this has no affect on the magic damage of the sword; not sure if that is intended or not)

[mossy ridge]

The weapon damage is just elemental damage, not specifically magic

[mortal vapor]

Ah okay well they need to change the wording on the weapon UI then, it specifically says 'Magic Shroud Damage'

And on the intelligence pop-up UI it says 'Magic damage', so how it's currently worded I would assume it should affect that.

[mossy ridge]

Yeahhhh, lot of that with the game 😅

[cursive sorrel]

yeah best as i can figure out elements (Fire, ice, blunt, pierce, slash, lightning, shroud) are different from weapon type damage (1h/2h = Melee - sometimes includes daggers?, Ranged = bows (not staff, not wands) and Magic = staff and wands)

but very much agree its ambiguous and confusing

[weary crane]

Wait, so things like Fire or Ice on a weapon will NOT get boosted by the +Fire or +Ice % magic boosts in the magic area?!?!

[mossy ridge]

As far as I understand it - those things DO boost, but things that boost Magic damage DON'T boost those elements on non magic weapons

[weary crane]

Yeah, they really shouldn't have used "melee, ranged, and magic" for the descriptors on that. It gets super confusing. (Like is not magic also ranged? 🤔 Yes, yes it is.)

[mossy ridge]

Yeah it definitely needs a lot of refining and clarity

[native sapphire]

"evasion attack" says it does more damage than your normal auto, but i swear to god and i don't know if i'm going crazy but not using it does more damage

[tawdry meteor]

It probably means more damage than if you hadn't attacked at all, and is just worded poorly

[modern axle]

Does anyone find the tuning on Shroud Stalkers ridiculous?

Even with 2k HP, nearly all heavy armor, all tanky skills at max: a single attack = dead on Hard Mode. They are pretty brutal even on normal.

Trying to guage if I am missing something or this is just a case of "get gud" and not get hit at all and/or read the very vague telegraphs to parry?

[cursive citrus]

If you’re talking about their cannonball dive or bite. Yeah they’re just kinda supposed to be like that

It’s either I frame with your dodge of choice

Or parry

[modern axle]

On Hard Mode even a normal attack kills one shot for me. Okay, I can accept that they added a mob that is that deadly. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one that couldn't take hits from it...even with all my tanky-ness.

Zero-mistake mobs are rough.

[cursive citrus]

I play on basically on the hardest difficulty with max enemy density. But also max xp gains and 1 to 1 rune breakdowns so you’re not just hoarding runes but actually upgrading while progressing

The only thing you don’t want to to touch is attack frequency

That combined with max density is a nightmare

[modern axle]

I am sure it would be. thanks for the feedback!

[cursive citrus]

I think shroud stalkers actually hit harder then Hydrak Dal

Because their bite strips all buffs

[young badger]

Rly?

[cursive citrus]

It used to, unless it changed this patch

So bye bye food buffs

And you’d lose them in the same instance of taking damage

So you’d just

💥

[native sapphire]

ain't no way

[crystal needle]

Lol. I agree. Still a lot of fine tunning to do.

[raw bone]

It's not double, but I can confirm that it does more damage. Just tested on a training dummy and a level 25 fell commander

[north torrent]

Is hybrid melee and magic build possible?

[cunning mural]

definitely, although not necessarily the most rewarding of playstyles there is a magic focused sword that has mana leech on it and is clearly for a "staff + 1H melee" combo

[north torrent]

Oh may I know what that sword is? And mind if I ask what you mean be rewarding? I’m guessing damage wise?

I was thinking of greatsword + staff/wand tbh

[cunning mural]

I am unaware if there's a great sword that is good for magic players honestly, but the sword I was thinking of was "Major Arcana" or technically even "Minor Arcana" can be good too now with a staff

swapping between wand and sword may be a bit challenging though, as they're both hot-bar weapons

[north torrent]

Dang there goes my 2h wielding magic knight fantasy

[mossy ridge]

Morningdew greatsword has double mana leech, but also has backstab and piercing so it's not great

[cunning mural]

to be fair, I am just not a great sword user, there's also a lot of new ones in this most recent update, lol

[mossy ridge]

Greatsword is pretty skill point heavy though, doesn't pair that well with magic

[cunning mural]

there easily could be at least one that is great for you, but I don't know any off the top of my head...
but Major Arcana and Minor Arcana have been in the game since like... first release, lol

[mossy ridge]

1H also has rune apprentice/master with the double mana leech

[cunning mural]

oh yeah, those are somewhat new but definitely mage-focused

[north torrent]

That is true that it is skill point heavy, but being a hybrid kind of really forces you to make sacrifices

[mossy ridge]

Yeah Sword n Board just pairs better, because you can use staff as the primary big damage weapon

whereas greatsword is already the primary weapon

[north torrent]

I was really leaning more on greatsword as primary and staff as secondary

Where you butter em up using the staff at ranged

[cunning mural]

there's main/primary weapon, and a ranged weapon...
primary great sword or primary 1H weapon... it works however, you can probably even do daggers and staff, but "mage ranged" is usually the staff

my only question is "great sword and wand"
cause that'd be hard to swap between those two

[mossy ridge]

Up to you to try it, but I can see it being too heavy a skill point investment and losing utility

[cunning mural]

and wands are... really annoying

if you don't hate wands, you haven't used them

[north torrent]

I’ve tried wands and don’t want to use em, I prefer staff

[cunning mural]

feels like half the time my wand tries to target the thing far away it can't reach, instead of the bugs or wolves nibbling on my delicious ankles

[north torrent]

The skill points on armor is new to update 8 right?

Then it might actually be possible to sacrifice a skill point or 2

[mossy ridge]

I run Greatsword and Bow - I just put enough points into bow to make it useable on the few targets I need it for - has the plus of gaining extra crit in that tree area

[north torrent]

That sounds like a fun ranger from lotr type of build

[mossy ridge]

I think I have like 50% crit with the greatsword - and I have 42% extra sprint speed

[north torrent]

Are eternal spells still crafted, or can they be found? Cause my alchemist doesn’t display the option to craft em

[mossy ridge]

Some are crafted, others found

[cunning mural]

it depends on the spell and your progression

and once you find an eternal spell, that specific one is craftable, for instance the "eternal ice spell" you get very early on

[mossy ridge]

There's a whole quest chain in veilwater for like 4 or 5 of them

[cunning mural]

Kindlewastes I think unlocks a couple eternal spells too, but only craftable

[north torrent]

I’m trying to get eternal fireball and shock if there is

Though I don’t even know where to start looking for them

[cunning mural]

just be warned, higher level eternal spells cost more mana

try to keep your spells around your level, otherwise you won't be able to use them hardly at all, lol

[north torrent]

Yeah i’m looking for the level 1 one, I haven’t seen them at all the eternal versions

Just the ice one

[cunning mural]

early game ones require the spells as ammo, minus the ice one

and the higher level ones, even if you got them... if you're in the early game, you couldn't cast them cause they cost too much mana

[mossy ridge]

Have you got bronze bars yet?

[north torrent]

No actually, i’m not even sure where to get them

Only copper so far is the highest i’ve seen and I live in the nomad highlands atm

[mossy ridge]

I think bronze bars might be the trigger to unlock the recipe - which is copper, tin and charcoal

[north torrent]

Hmm i’ll look for bronze first then

[mossy ridge]

I haven't played the new updated version of the early game, so no idea what normal progress looks like now

[cunning mural]

it's mostly the same

except grindy

some things are better, some things are worse, and some things are...

https://tenor.com/b00IY.gif

[sly depot]

Is there any good way to build for both 1h melee/shield and staff? (In my long range slot)

[sly depot]

I won’t be splitting too much? Just trying to figure out how many skill points I should expect to be working with

[cunning mural]

dual-classing definitely makes you split skill points, no avoiding that

but you can still try to be Sword + Shield, with Staff as a range...
sadly though mages aren't... quite balanced yet?... they take a lot of skill points to be good

early game mage is terrible

just... abysmal...
but revelwood they get okay...
nomad highlands they get good... and uh... idk about after that... I am still playing a mage for the "kind of first time"

[sly depot]

Yeah I feel like just pewing with a wand for a big chunk of my first playthrough would be pretty boring when I could just be mercilessly attacking instead

[dense cliff]

Imho update 8 made them a little bit better. Fireball is a bit more effective now, due to bigger AoE range.

[cunning mural]

I haven't played springlands mage since last update, so I am glad it got a little better... I have heard there were improvements, but I have found myself in weird spots where things just... don't work

it sucks if you get hit while trying to change spells, it disables your staff and makes you scroll on your hotbar instead

[sly depot]

How far do I need to get to get access to the first staff spell?

[dense cliff]

Oh yeah I already had it where I was scrolling from my wand back to the staff, and accidentally switched my spell by scrolling to much.

You just need a couple resin, for the fire bolt

[cunning mural]

the first staff spell just requires Resin

[dense cliff]

Next stuff at the Alchemist.
So if you play Mage, get the Alchemist asap

[cunning mural]

chop trees with red leaves, or apparently "dead trees" now drop resin too, the ones with no leaves, outside of shroud

[sly depot]

Okay, I found a little from a chest but haven’t found a reliable way to get it yet

Ooh okay

So it’s super easy to get that then

[cunning mural]

you can craft the firebolt on your own through survival crafting too, similar to wooden arrows

fireBall will require the Alchemist, go obtain him and he'll give you access to more spells

[sly depot]

Trying to decide if I want to build up Strength or Intelligence now

[dense cliff]

As mage you definetly want Intelligence.
Intelligence even before Willpower, because a little bit more damage means the enemy might be dead in two Firebolts instead of three.

[cunning mural]

you'll also want "Rising Fighter" chest armor

mage or melee, rising fighter chest armor

[dense cliff]

What? I've gone with legendary mage chest shirt.
That one is good, in terms of skill points.

[cunning mural]

you need the defense, and you need the health, and you need the health!!

[sly depot]

I’m between 1h melee/shield and staff

The parrying is kinda fun

[cunning mural]

did you do the first hollow hall in springlands gear?

it was... so hard... as a mage

[dense cliff]

No not yet. Last time I did was update 7. But I did it in mage gear and nothing else.
I put 2 points into Constitution back then for some 75 more hitpoints.
Was possible back then, and I didn't really got hit by the skeletons anyways. But when I got in there I was like level 8 and had a legendary mace as backup weapon.

[cunning mural]

wait a second...

legendary... MAGE or Alchemist Apprentice?

[dense cliff]

Alchemist shirt, that one on level 5, the very first one

[cunning mural]

but... that doesn't come in legendary... does it?

[tawdry meteor]

Tbf, I did the first hollow halls at lvl 5 or 6 solo using a bow and good positioning, it's definitely possible it's just a slog

Took like 2 hours almost

[pseudo hawk]

hello where can i find a skill tree for battlemage. everything resetted after the update and cant find one on the internet

[exotic holly]

Hi everyone, I play in Italian, and an ability I unlocked said that my health points would double based on my strength points. Along the way, I unlocked 2 strength points and found myself with +7 HP... far from doubling. Does anyone know if it was translated incorrectly?

[floral musk]

I believe its 2 HP per 1 Str

[exotic holly]

But I haven't seen many strength points to add. How does it work? As the character levels up, his strength increases, and at a certain point he gets enough HP to make sense?

[cursive sorrel]

Curious Why do you think it's hard to swap? I swap between two wands all the time (fire for wolfs, ice for scavengers)

[cursive sorrel]

There are various nodes in the talents that give +1 str. You also get +1 to all attributes for each flame upgrade (the middle option in the altar that takes a lot of materials)

[mossy igloo]

So Fell enemies (and not the scavengers and the reptile folks) are the ONLY enemies that would be affected by the radiant aura ... correct? If that is the case why would anyone waste points to get that since you only do fell enemies in the shroud and half this game is outside the shroud. confused as to why they put stuff like that in the tree for specific areas. Kind of like the beast master one which is specifically more generated to an area of time.

[north nest]

yes it's true

i take it because it's fun popping the beetles just by running around, but it isn't super good i agree

[glad adder]

if I upgrade golden bulwark shield, is the (for instance) +19 Cutting Armor a passive stat for just equipping it? I'm using 2h weapons so any shield/ward would essentially just be a stat/skill stick

[north nest]

i think that's correct

i actually have the time rn to load up the game and check

[glad adder]

I find that the All Attributes button in UI is not all that accurate or informative, so sometimes I just have to wonder

[north nest]

ya gonna let some enemies hit me

[spark wagon]

Naw you gotta activly block for the resistance to apply

So the shield has to be in active use.

[north nest]

it seems not

[north nest]

think it's working even if just holding 1h

257 vs 297 hits

[spark wagon]

Does not work with 2h weapons tho, since you dont actually have it "in active use" with those

[north nest]

right

[glad adder]

yeah, I tried it and no go, but at least it still gives a bonus to Power Parry skill

[cursive sorrel]

Because it's fairly easy to respec.

I respec out of resources gathering and into combat for various bosses, I put that skill on when doing shroud gathering. Likewise I have a wand just for clearing the Hollow.

Lots of talents aren't useful everywhere but there are what, 160 some talent points? It's fairly easy to get everything in a tree you want for a specific task

I do wish there was some sort of built in preset save for talent trees you could switch between easily, like at the flame for a rune cost

[mossy ridge]

A gear load out would be nice, make swapping between stuff like swimming/diving more convenient

[glad adder]

respec would be nicer if loadouts were a thing

[cursive sorrel]

You can kinda do a gear load out change with the manikins

[north nest]

haha yea i have all this gear on my hotbar and it's so annoying clicking through it all

[cursive sorrel]

You can swap all your armor off one

Not as nice as a proper system but you know. Something

[mossy ridge]

Yeah but no good "in the field"

I ended up crafting another diving helmet to use as a light source cosmetic so I didn't have to keep taking it off cosmetic, then swapping helmets just to dive for like 2 minutes...

[cursive sorrel]

Yeah I agree.

[north nest]

would be cool if we could have equipment per weapon, so just swap weapon and gear changes along with it

[cursive sorrel]

Tho also it's pretty easy to carry a spare altar and just jump back home most places (obviously some limitations.... Damn deep hollow crypts...

[north nest]

i know i have the wand v staff stuff that i never actually use

could link the swimming gear to some weapon

that mining helm to pickaxe

[mossy ridge]

I was actually surprised there wasn't a water weapon like a harpoon gun considering all the other stuff

[cursive sorrel]

I donno I do think some friction is a good thing, otherwise it's "optimal" to farm up several sets of gear and just switch weapons on the fly all the time

But like at the altar would make sense for talent spec changing to me

[glad adder]

one oddity is I'd like to be able to equip a weapon in a separate slot like I equip a bow. Which would make gear loadouts easier, too; just swap the entire gear loadout. Loadout tabs or something

[cursive sorrel]

I don't find that much difference between that and weapons in slot 1 and 2 of my hotbar

[north nest]

🤷‍♂️ to each their own i suppose, i like the mix/matching of gear and trying to optimize

not necessarily to make the game easier, just for the sake of options i think

[cursive sorrel]

I do too but make it so "easy" to swap around makes it less reason to focus. 🤷 one of those weird design philosophy choices I guess

[mossy ridge]

Yeah I dont mind a lack of "class" swapping- gives you a reason to play more from a business standpoint as well

But basic gear loadouts for like a mining set, diving set etc would be useful

[frozen kindle]

Hey, I have not played for a bit but we are starting a new Coop run. Is Wand durability still lacking?

[misty sedge]

Would also make adding a weapon vanity system much easier imo

The only issue I have with that method is potentially it could become cumbersome to swap between holding a weapon and being unarmed which would make Begone! even more niche and possibly unusable

[cursive citrus]

I’ve posted a template version of what I use, and I can clear the content in my world easily

Which is hard difficulty with max enemy density

But you actually have to ya know? Play the game. So dodging and creating space etc

[cursive sorrel]

If you get the renewable talent and maybe a bonus to it on the wand it's ok

[sharp turret]

Is there no benefits to Strategic Maneuver if you don't use lockon?

[frozen kindle]

Is Nemesis working now? would be nice for Co Op play

[misty sedge]

I believe that's correct

[weary crane]

I haven't looked at the settings, but I'm pretty sure there's tweakable durability.

[potent stratus]

durability for wands is still as, however there are some early on skils that lets you get +1 per skillpoint of durability per kill, and i think the mage shields all also give a point in that. and durability is also tweakable in the settings but that counts for all tools and weapons not just wands

[modern axle]

Did dagger kick get removed with the addition of the kick skill? Or have I just forgotten how to do a dagger kick?

[void juniper]

u have forgotten how to dagger kick

[edgy river]

Hey ho, does anyone have a good Ranger-Skillguide? I've just started and lvl 11 now 🙂

[bronze sparrow]

just so I understand, I currently have 970 health, and for the low low price of 2 skil points, I can get....12 more?!!?!?

[bronze hollow]

If your Strength is 6

[noble coral]

Isn't exactly a talent I'd want to get early

[cursive citrus]

Even late game, they’re grossly inefficient

A single point of Constitution is 50 points

To even rival that, you’d need atleast the second level of Athlete and 20+ points

Which is now 4 times the investment of a point of constitution

[tawdry meteor]

Grab 4 constitutions atp

[bronze hollow]

I'd only ever pick them up if they're on the way to something else or if I had extra points and nothing better to use them with... And that's never the case. I dunno who came up with that idea and thought "yeah, that's a great use of points that they could totally use elsewhere"

[steel dune]

this 2 weapons not the same name but the enchantment are same?

[thick jolt]

The golden one is the legendary version of the blue one (rare rank)

[mossy ridge]

Remnants of the gear changes - there's a bunch of them now that are just identical and go to legendary

Some have slightly different base damage types, but several are just identical

[cursive sorrel]

gold one can also get to level 50, whcih the blue one cant

and a pretty decent more durability

which may not be relevant to your question i realize now :p

[mossy ridge]

Another example

[ebon star]

The way it used to be, is that most weapons had a similar looking variant, that had the same enchantments, one version was available in Epic and Legendary form, and the other one was Common, Uncommon and Rare. Now all weapons go up to legendary, and the devs have already swithed some weapons out for new ones, for example, "Flail of Misery" has been replaced with an axe, while "Spine Splitter" has been redisigned in appearance. My guess is more weapons will either get new appearances, or they'll just be replaced alltogether with a different weapon.

[steel dune]

@mossy ridge ok ok they just cloned a better looking weapons with same stats lmao

[mossy ridge]

Yeahhhh, hopefully they change things around for 1.0 to add more variety

[ebon star]

Why are daggers so damn useless in this game? It literally takes 3-4 hits to take out one of the little critter bugs, and I can only hit one at a time. If they were single target with huge damage to offset that, they would make sense, but the way they are, not really worth using them. Bows also suffer from the same problems, their only redeeming factor is that you can grind till your mind melts and use exploding arrows, otherwise good luck spending half an hour to clear out a group of enemies. The dex weapons feel like nothing but an afterthought, with the bows being kind of necessary to take out like, 3-4 enemies in the game that can't be meleed.

[steel dune]

level 52 item? O.o

[mossy ridge]

known bug - they reset to 50 max if you upgrade them and relog

[cursive citrus]

As someone building a sort of arcane archer at the moment. The damage is absolutely not the problem for bows. The issue is that you need to abandon the standard arrows in favor of the Eternal ice Arrow 2, and stack as much elemental bonuses as possible and use gem of currents. Because then you’re doing 100% increased damage. And then the second is the resources for explosive arrows as you pointed out. However if you had eternal versions, I’d argue they’d be absolutely broken. Considering they can stun on hit for 2 seconds with the talent. They have cascading damage and as an unintended benefit, because they mine out the ground you can break enemies pathing abilities

I do believe that resource expenditure is not a healthy way to balance a thing, and Bow should have more eternal element arrows

As well as eternal explosive arrows, but not just fire. I’d like to see gas cloud arrows etc

I strongly disagree about the daggers however

The mistake many people make is thinking if you just take green tree talents, that they’re feature complete

You need to go down into the red tree to pick up the physical damage multipliers for cutting/piercing. Then veteran/battle heal, breach and all that goodness. With the right set up, daggers can have basically an instant merciless attack

And incredible DPS

[weary crane]

Pretty much all of the flame level based, and other things which aren't "spend 1 point to get 1 strength/dexterity/endurance/magic" are not worth it until you are basicaly 100% out of the 1-1 options.

[ebon star]

Yeah, but at that point I can just go for another onehanded or 2 handed weapon that scales with the stuff from the red trees, so why would I waste points into the dagger tree? I might be doing something wrong, but the daggers take like 20 hits to kill a scavenger. And Im outleveling said scavenger by 5 levels.

Stun bar gets filled in maybe 15 hits, if they block that much, but usually they block for a second and then power through my attack and stun me with their hits.

[candid axle]

For that you can take the kick

very useful

[ebon star]

Sure I could, but the problem of getting swarmed still remains. Usually I just jump around and levitate while shooting explosive arrows, the daggers are mostly an afterthought if there are maybe 1 or 2 enemies left, because against getting swarmed, the daggers can't do anything. I've been killed by bugs multiple times.

[candid axle]

it would be great to have the same spinning attack of the 2 h weapon

[cursive citrus]

You have a maximum of 184 points. You shouldn’t just limit yourself to just one tree. A mage build still absolutely wants desert stomach and the tank tree nodes for extra durability. You asked about how to make daggers better, that’s how

[ebon star]

I was mainly ranting about how useless they feel to me. Yeah I got 184 points, by the time Im max level and deplete all current content, at which point there is no reason to fight, only focus on base building and beautifiyng the world. Question is, why would I ever go with a dagger, when the red tree perks I have to pick for daggers also improve 1 handed weapons, which do more damage than the daggers do, AND they got horde control being able to hit multiple enemies?

[candid axle]

Challenge ? Fun ?

They are trash, yeah, but it is then that you can developp your own skills

And you also have to think that they will probably get buffed at some point to make them reliable

[ebon star]

I wouldn't say its fun to kite enemies around until you can finally get 2-3 on their own so you stand a chance to take them down painstakingly with dozens of hits. Did I mention I play with max amount of enemies? Yeah, I guess that one is on me, but still, melee and mage builds outclass dagger and bow builds by miles.

[candid axle]

Kick them

Poison them

[native sapphire]

honestly the venom mechanic of daggers should be enabled by the final perks of assassin tree, and replace the venom perks on weapons with something more useful
result: every dagger has now more damage on average, gives the fantasy of daggers being a rogue/poison thing, and venomous blades perk doesn't compete with others as a simple enabler by itself and nothing else

[ebon star]

Wait, those poison skills only work if my daggers actually have poison damage?

[native sapphire]

yes

i mean no, not even poison damage, it needs the specific perk "venomous blades"

[ebon star]

Wow, they look even more trash now. Plus pretty much everything ingame resist poison

[native sapphire]

heretics resisting poison damage always felt like a massive "screw you" tbh lol

[ebon star]

Honestly, I think daggers should become this great weapon that lets you take down bosses and bypass the armor of armored enemies, to give a use for them. A niche single target weapon. Now they are just a useless single target weapon. Bows are kind of OK I guess, if you go explosive and elemental, otherwise its a hard NO as well.

[ebon star]

What are heretics? The scavengers?

[native sapphire]

yea

like i said, the biggest potential of clearing groups as daggers is using poison, as there is this kinda fantasy of fast hitting multiple enemies as they slowly get poisoned to death while you dodge and parry around fast and quick

but then, the perk only works if you have a specific dagger that has a specific perk, and forces you to use those specific daggers

the potential exists, but the devs are kinda not allowing it, idk why

[candid axle]

it's still in developement

we have to tell them about it and they will change it

[devout fiber]

Is the nemesis skill working?

I feel like it's not doing anything

(purely anecdotal though, no idea if it's doing stuff in the background, or maybe it's poorly explained?)

[ebon star]

Game seems to crash on me when I use the explosive arrows.... Anyone else having this problem?

It does this consistently, it slows down, stutters, then if I fire some more arrows it crashes.

[bronze sparrow]

Bows are for pulling elites

[cursive citrus]

I’ve monitored my fps when I use them against large groups

It can seriously drop your FPS by 30-40

Because it’s lots of particle effects

Numbers

And terrain deformation

[ebon star]

Yeah, you can do that with them without investing a single point into them. So the existence of bow specific skill trees and stats should mean that the devs intent them to be useful on their own as well. Or at least I hope so.

[leaden pivot]

you get enough points to multiclass quite deep

[wise karma]

While fishing I notice that the percentage of catching certain fish with certain bait was not matching up with what I found online. So I did a little study with Epic bait, Rare bait, Frogs, Scarabs, Pillbugs. I did 100 casts with each bait, each time and after 50 casts I went abck home briefly to get fully rested. If I hooked a fish I always couahg tit. There were no lost fish that would skew the data. I first did 100 casts at a lake east of the Fishing Island in Veilwater basin. The lake did not have a fishing circle. From 100 cast using crafted Epic Bait I caught 25-Shimmerfin, 37-Lakehopper, 3-Silverback, 12-Sunscale, 9-Stripetail, 1-Whiskerfin, 0-Crimsonback, 1-Emberfin, 2-Shadowtail, 1-Waveleaper, 0-Shockfin, 2-Thornridge, 1-Yellowfin, 6-Trash loot pulls. So 3% of my catches pulled in a EPIC fish using crafted EPIC bait which is supposed to be 29% for each epic fish. But as you can see that was not the case. Then I went to the Fishing Island in Veilwater Basin with the fishing circle and did another 100 casts. I did 100 casts like before used Crafted Epic bait again and I caught 24-Shimmerfin, 27-Lakehopper, 9-Silverback, 3-Sunscale, 7-Stripetail, 3-Whiskerfin, 2-Crimsonback, 0-Emberfin, 1-Shadowtail, 0-Waveleaper, 0-Shockfin, 2-Thornridge, 1-Yellowfin, 21-Trash loot pulls. So again the catught percentage of Epic fish using crafter EPIC bait was again 3% but with alot more trash pulls, so even less fish. This made me even more curious. So I used 100 Frogs this time at the Fishing Island and did 100 casts again. I caught 33-Shimmerfin, 22-Lakehopper, 6-Silverback, 4-Sunscale, 5-Stripetail, 7-Whiskerfin, 0-Crimsonback, 2-Emberfin, 1-Shadowtail, 1-Waveleaper, 3-Shockfin, 1-Thronridge, 3-Yellowfin, and 12 trash loot pulls. I actually got slightly better results with just frogs as you can see but percentages are not falling inline with what's posted with just Frogs either. I will post the number but 100 Rare bait, Scarabs and Pills bugs, they too are not matching.

To add to my previous post. I crafter 100 Rare bait and again did 100 casts at the Fishing Island in Veilwater Basin. I caught 28-Shimmerfin, 27-Lakehopper, 4-Silverback, 5-Sunscale, 2-Stripetail, 2-Whiskerfin, 2-Crimsonback, 6-Enberfin, 2-Shadowtail, 2-Waveleaper, 2-Shockfin, 1-Thornridge, 0-Yellowfin, and 17 trash loot pulls. Again my data not not matching up with what's post online. I kept going and did 100 casts of Scarabs. I caught 35-Shimmerfin, 33-Lakehopper, 3-Silverback, 5-Sunscale, 4-Stripetail, 0-Whiskerfin, 2-Crimsonback, 1-Emberfin, 0-Shadowtail, 1-Waveleaper, 2-Shockfin, 2-Thornridge, 0-Yellowfin, and 12 trash loot pulls. Again not matching. I did one last study on pillbugs. Again I used 100 pillbugs and did 100 casts and I caught 26-Shimmerfin, 37-Lakehopper, 3-Silverback, 4-Sunscale, 8-Stripetail, 2-Whiskerfin, 1-Crimsonback, 1-Emberfin, 0-Shadowtail, 5-Waveleaper, 1-Shockfin, 1-Thronridge, 1-Yellowfin, 10-Trash loot pulls. Again not matching with the data percentages online. Hopefully someone sees this and looks into the fishing bait percentages cause somethings isn't adding up.

[mossy igloo]

Does battle heal work with daggers??

[cursive citrus]

Any talent that says Melee will work with daggers

Unless it calls out specific words

Like one handed melee

Or two handed

So Battle heal

Veteran

Crash down

Etc

[mossy igloo]

Thank you ...

[cursive citrus]

[winter elk]

Had an idea that I'd love to see for bows and daggers (since they're more single-target):
Skill point called Toxic Fumes: Poisons you inflict (with Critical Hits?) are also inflicted on enemies in a X meter radius from the poisoned target

[bronze sparrow]

this is an example of a discord post that should be a google sheet

[wise karma]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR85WrQTGi226BNa4pkz88BIJbEvaN_-9EUBCsCtGAoQCrFfs-r2reDYlUcWjI3-xwmYBBrinAmewq6/pub?output=ods

[kindred moon]

Is it normal to need 7105 exp for level 9 to 10?

[dry pivot]

heyo peeps, question.

Why 2 handed weapons hit so much compared to wands ? or is it just me and i'm crazy
in terms of DPS
not just 1 hit
my buddy can remove enemies in seconds, while me, well, it takes a while
And the "ultimate" or idk how the R focus skills are called, i just call them ult.

The wand one has almost no AoE (kinda misses a lot or it gets bugged)
meanwhile my buddy can 1 shot or do like 3/4 hp dmg

plus, the 2hand weapons get a ton of focus per swing

[north torrent]

What’s currently better? Board and blade or 2 hand?

[glad adder]

Two questions:

1. does upward slash have more closing power when I actually have a target?
2. Does Grounding Hook work with any flying enemy? Barring that damn Dragon, of course.

[cursive citrus]

Yes, to both. But the latter doesn’t actually ground them. Just pull them closer to the ground

[cursive citrus]

Wands per projectile don’t hit as hard as the per swing damage of a two handed. However wands can have multiple projectiles firing off with the right wand and talents. Which also builds focus very quickly. Wands also have incredibly high sustained damage, and with sting only gets stronger. They do have less AoE, but with things like chain hit and mass destruction it can add up very quickly

[ripe rune]

Because melee is privileged in all games
And because wands particularly in this game are trash

[cursive citrus]

It’s funny you say that, because 9/10 times when someone is complaining about the fell dragon

It’s a melee build

Despite being clearable very easily without any changes to their build

[candid axle]

parry the fire balls with your shield and use the bone arrows

[ripe rune]

And its the only fight in the game when melees get to complain

And yea u can parry them

Its just many melee players dont learn to parry, because they are fine without it

[candid axle]

I mean there are the witch

they are closer to the ground than before but it's still a pain in the but to defeat them with a melee build

[ripe rune]

They dont count as flying enemies eligible to hook grab?

[candid axle]

I don't know

I never use that skill as it is useless half the times

[cursive sorrel]

with how fast focus is gained the special is easily the best AOE

while it does take 2-3 "swings" to take down most enemies if level'd appropriately, its about the same time length as 2hers swings so i feel the dps is similar - but im not max level yet so maybe that changes.

But most fights im already 3/4ths refilled on the focus bar before my first special runs out.

[cursive citrus]

I will also note, that if you’re building towards frost, but especially shock. You can do an easy 100% increased damage with the gem of currents and specific gear choices

I’m not downplaying two handed strength and focus generation. But wand can generate focus incredibly fast as well with how many hits each attack generates

Now in a pure AoE contest with just wand, it is reliant on talents and its focus attack for AoE

But if you factor staff into it, it’s not even close

[smoky lagoon]

Ya, I noticed that fishing was broken awhile back, I have made SURE to let the devs know, they are aware, but I have no idea if or when things will be patched. :S hopefully in the next one......

[mossy ridge]

You can hook the wraiths and banshees - you can't hook the big jellyfish things down, that'll pull you up which will put you under them and damage you

[dry pivot]

i think lightning wands have more projectiles than normal and still i don't get enough focus compared to my guy with some miserable swings

and the extra projectiles is like 30% i think, it's not that much tho :c

the lightning thing is a good AoE but remember it's only in crits and it's what, 30% or not even that of my actual hit :c

compared to a smack of a big sword and bam, 300 dmg xD

[dry pivot]

ye, the attack moveset of wand is pretty sad

specially now that the skill we have bugs all the time and deals no dmg at all 🤣

[cursive citrus]

It depends on if the wand has innate mulishot, and while it’s true that chain hit and mass destruction are on crit effects. If you’re using Gem of currents and Circlet of lightning. You have around 50% crit chance. And that’s per projectile

[dry pivot]

me just started midgame tho

i barely have a wand 🤣

[cursive citrus]

That’s fair, I’m evaluating it based on what it can do

[dry pivot]

best gem i've saw dropped, was the shroud one from the dementors

[wise karma]

Ty for the update.

[open mural]

Anybody got a good skilltree suggestion for Ranger focus with one handed axe/sword build?

[thick jolt]

Hi.
Does the skill "Fatal Precision" (ranger tree) work with magic attacks (like magic staff or others) ?

[raw bone]

What is the "best" gem for a staff?

[cunning mural]

the "problem" with this question is that... it really depends on so many factors, there isn't really a "meta" for this game.

[raw bone]

Some gems are worthless on a staff though, so I'm just trying to see what is even viable

[cunning mural]

it depends on what staff, what spells, and what play style you want to go with... the humble and simple "gem of burning" in the early game.. paired with fireball or light burst, could potentially be amazing

[raw bone]

I'm only using chain lighting or lightning channel

[cunning mural]

then likely the gem of storm's eye

[raw bone]

I'm mostly melee with stunning magic

Gem of Storm's Eye

[calm yoke]

Question: If I have 3/3 "Heavy Plate", and then I get a piece of armor that gives +1 Heavy Plate, do I end up with 4/3 Heavy Plate skill? Or should I reskill to 2/3 (+1).
The tool tip seems to indicate the latter.

[raw bone]

It give the bonus

[cunning mural]

it'd be 4/3

[raw bone]

I have armor/rings that gets me to 5/3 and 20% DR

[hearty nymph]

Afaik, you overcap bonuses

[calm yoke]

#facepalm. Never mind, I get it now. It's not a "Heavy plate" bonus, it's a "shiny plate" bonus, and that is indeed 3/3+1.

[cursive citrus]

Yes, as it’s universal crit chance

[cursive citrus]

My go to Gems are Burning, Storms Eye and Currents

If you’re leaning into shock/frost, Currents is imo the best

Extra damage procs and a 30% increase to those damage types

[thick jolt]

Thx 😉

[weary crane]

Yes, gear allows you to exceed what you can put in in terms of points into the skill tree.

[minor solar]

any archer ?

[gleaming pond]

Question about health regen: does it continue through damage taken, or does damage interrupt it?

[cursive citrus]

[north nest]

i think by the description and similar mechanics (mana/stamina regen) it does get interrupted

[gleaming pond]

Shame. Thank you.

[weary crane]

It's really never going to be significant enough to notice.

As a tank build, taking nearly every strength and con point, with effectively nothing in Intelligence, picking up the base level of Water aura effectively doubles your regeneration speed.

A base level bandage will do FAR more to recover HP than both of those combined.

[gleaming pond]

It's mostly a flavor thing for me so to speak. But thank you.

[tawdry meteor]

If you want to do it you'd need to do tank/battlemage and invest heavily into healing increases and probably use magic weapons instead of a sword

At least for it to be effective

Somewhat

[weary crane]

That's what I'm saying. It's not. With nearly max Str/Con, you could completely remove my HP regeneration rate and it wouldn't even be noticible becuase it's that low compared to every other source of healing.

Which is not what it should be with someone who has nearly max Str/Con.

[bronze sparrow]

hrmmm

[glad adder]

Thoughts on strategic maneuver vs blink for 2h melee? I have trouble ignoring blink because of emergency blink, but I wonder if SM would improve my melee experience. My main is a ranger, so this is a change of pace for me.

[misty sedge]

SM is how roll worked before U8 and I preferred it infinitely to blink even with emergency blink

[kindred moon]

What weapon can i get that helps me get to the Capital

[slow panther]

I'm wanting to do a sandbox mode run and want to get all of the best gear

[mossy ridge]

Blink all the way for me personally - I'd probably only take SM on a backstab build

[dense cliff]

Strategic Maneuver feels pretty useless to me imho. Due to iFrames you can just dodge roll forward to get behind the enemy to get some bonus damage in.
If you fight without the lock in, you don't really need it.

[misty sedge]

Yeah it really doesn't have any effect if you're not using lock-on

[slender schooner]

https://hacktheminotaur.com/enshrouded/ultimate-enshrouded-tank-build/ just wondering if anyone followed this build. and if it worked for you or not.

[dark birch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/I2LzI2MDMq0

[steel dune]

anyone can explain to me wetdog and soaked dog?

[mossy ridge]

There are 2 debuffs called wet and soaked that damage your stamina regeneration and ice/shock resistances when applied - those skills lessen the effects of the debuffs

[steel dune]

hmm it can apply soak and wet to enemies? but how can you get wet often even your not around in a puddle of water

[mossy ridge]

There are ways to apply it to enemies such as water balloons or the water pump - but it's typically applied to the player via the rain or swimming

[steel dune]

we got those water grenades? ok ok gona make a build using 50% physical/electric weapon variants

[mossy ridge]

One of the main endgame meta builds is by soaking yourself and enemies and using the gem of currents for a load of extra shock damage

[idle palm]

How does Blink work? I can't figure out the key in combat that lets me use that skill.

[frosty sentinel]

It replaces your dodge.

So whatever your dodge keybind is.

[feral path]

not sure if i'm better off running bow or 1h+shield now? which is generally better after updates?

[tawdry hill]

How can I find out which is the best wand currently available?

I currently have a level 40 mythical wand, but it's too weak for my enemies.

[mossy ridge]

45/50 upgraded to 50/50 Legendary is the highest tier level of gear

"Best" is going to depend on the build

[vital iron]

I'd be so much less salty about this if it weren't for the fact that I can't tell the difference between Yellowfin and SilvERBACK

[north torrent]

I don’t get it.. Is greatsword damage bugged or something?

My greataxe and gs have the same damage stats and yet my axe does more damage despite the additional 15% boost of titant edge

[mossy ridge]

I've seen some debate over whether another skill that should boost all 2H damage actually affects GS

[north torrent]

Ah you mean barbarian’s path? It should affect it since gs is classified as a 2 hander

It should be a bug if it didn’t affect it at all

[mossy ridge]

I'm terrible with names, but that's probably the one

I've seen it get brought up a few times now - people saying it doesn't seem to work, or they can't quite tell

[autumn shadow]

guys i wonder if i unlock both the "Blink" and "Strategic Maneuver" will my blink have iframe from the "Strategic Maneuver" skill?

[north torrent]

It seems likely that it is bugged since the stats of my gaxe and gs are completely identical

And yet my gaxe dealt 505 while my gs dealt 342

[autumn shadow]

tested, yea my blink have iframe now

[mossy ridge]

From my understanding - it gets complicated when you start to factor in the different damage types and how they affect different enemy types

[north torrent]

It sucks cause gs has slower attack animations compared to gmace or gaxe

You get staggered out before you hit your 2nd swing on gs a lot more

[mossy ridge]

I'll have to try and remember to take a look myself later - see about adding/removing just the skill itself and see if it makes a difference to the dmg values

[mossy ridge]

Patch notes suggest Blink should already have an iframe - "Dodge rolls and blink now have short time windows during which players are immune to damage, also known as i-frames. Fat roll enjoyers rejoice!"

[autumn shadow]

ohhhhhhh

tysm anyways

[fossil otter]

(prefacing this to say, I am literally just venting, I don't want advice or be told git gud just let me vent and get it out of my system)

I HATE FELL SICKLESCYTHES. Period. THey're f***ing cringe, un-fun to fight, just not a good or fun or "challenging" enemy, I hate them. Delete them from the game. Thx.

[mossy ridge]

You're right...

They should replace them with fell dragons... fell dragons everywhere... meteor fireballs raining down from the sky

[cunning mural]

I will say, not as a "git gud" message, but as just "hey you might not have known this"
you can parry their sickles that they throw... but it can cost a lot of stamina, and if you have "grounding hook" that lets you pull flying enemies to you, it does two things:

1. lets you pull them to you (obviously )
2. ...lets you see where they're going to teleport in from when they vanish

but I do agree that they are harder since the update

honestly I feel like the whole game got a little harder since the update? like sure, we got new combat moves... but the heavy attack sucks cause it only hits ONE target, and often doesn't hit enemies, it will bonk on a tree or a plant or a literal corpse at your feet, and ignore the enemy in front of you...
and armor got... half nerfed, half buffed, but "wildlife" (wolves, ||boar, hyenas, snowleopards||) hit like a TRUCK now

[fossil otter]

ty

[north torrent]

There’s definitely something wrong with gs, the damage is much lower vs the axe or hammer

[mossy ridge]

Ok, Barbarian's Path DOES NOT increase Greatsword damage - tested on base rank weapons with the same gear, no barbarians path or titan edge and they have the exact same base damage on Greatsword and Greataxe

1 point in Barbarians path with +1 from gear for 10% extra damage increases the greataxe damage, but does NOT increase the greatsword damage

[north torrent]

They need to fix that.. No wonder gs feels so underwhelming atm

[mossy ridge]

They do however have the same base damages on the initial swing - I haven't tested further into the combo chains - but damage is identical between greataxe and greatsword on the first hit

That does mean both Paladin and Sunpiercer helmets provide no bonuses to greatsword builds for those skills

[cursive citrus]

Yeah, we brought this to Toasts attention

[north torrent]

Such a weird bug where it only affects the first hit and not the rest

[fringe wing]

Anybody got combat tipps for a newb?
I dont know what i want to play .. im kinda defaulting for a "Ranger" or "Rogue" build

[mossy ridge]

Ok, cool

Well, spread those points out for now at least... cba trying to rework the build into something else, even if the helmet is basically only providing basic stats now

[mossy ridge]

Early game - 1H and Shield is the easiest thing imo

Magic doesn't pick up until mid-late outside of just spamming wand, dagger and bow is an easy pairing, but can struggle against big mobs early on

[fringe wing]

So basically play tank till mid game ? xD

[mossy ridge]

kind of... yeah 😅

1H n shield just has good AoE, attack speed and parry/block going for it "as is"

Everything else basically picks up later

[fringe wing]

Sound very boring ngl

Makes me wana use cheats just to skip that

[misty sedge]

AND leaves you defenseless for a full second after the animation ends AND doesn't do more meaningful damage than a jump attack or evasion attack with gem of agility...

[gleaming pond]

Question about Arsonist, will it boost the damage of Counterstrike?

[cursive citrus]

Yes

Elemental boosts are universal to any source of those elements

[void juniper]

yo

I think u should add big chill as a boss

https://tenor.com/view/big-chill-ben-10-ice-ice-breath-gif-4177578585173452387

from ben 10

[void juniper]

NOOO

why does it do this to me

[spark wagon]

No gifs for us peasants

[gleaming pond]

Great, thank you. It read as if it did, but verification is nice to see

[void juniper]

sad 😔

[cursive citrus]

I’m here to help, I’ve especially taken to the build planning and answering questions

[gleaming pond]

Thank you for your service

[sleek rover]

Guys do u think melee combat has to be improved?

[gleaming pond]

I don't know about "has" to be improved, but there is room for improvement for sure.

[quasi shale]

It just feels very lacklustre compared to mages.

As a mage you have a large variety of skills. You can put points into Trickster, Wizard, Healer and Guardian, and have great benefits of all of them.

But playing a 2H weapon, you don’t benefit from the 1H skills and vice versa, half of the guardian stuff is just mana recovery and again more beneficial for mages. Athletics is just bad. All that’s left is to put points into survival and backstab damage.

I have played mage, archer and 1h and 2h melees. The melees are just not fun, their parry skills are not working against bosses. Was hoping that a good parry shockwave can stop a swarm of wolves, but it’s super unreliable.

Overall the melee experience sucks in this game.

[candid axle]

the main build is the tank with leach on everything

that's kind off sad

[quasi shale]

Yes, but it’s boring af

[candid axle]

for real

it lacks range and movement

[quasi shale]

Leech is anyway a very bad game mechanic, I’d would like to see it remove but have a reworked melee tree with useful skills, and most importantly being able to parry bosses. Also there should be a throwing tree for range strength damage, like Javelins.

Of course to stun a boss should require multiple parries, like in other games too. But so many skills just feel useless.

[candid axle]

I would LOVE spears and trident

[quasi shale]

Yeah, absolutely

[candid axle]

like the fell have SPEARS AND TRIDENT

I NEED them

you could make it like a dex / str

[quasi shale]

Throwing tree, with strength weapons for the range weapon (bow) slot, would save the strength build

[candid axle]

and better use for the shield

cuz we all use 2 h mainly but poor shield are just here

while the magic shield gives bonus and they don't

[quasi shale]

I’d just love to have more of a Sekiro, Stellar blade or similar experience as a melee. Where I stand in the danger zone, but with good reaction, timing and skill, you have great reward.

But it just feels like a diablo 2 lifesteal barb.

[candid axle]

getting stunned every 2 sec

by some random guy

[quasi shale]

True, like the guardin tree should also feature some shield strikes or something. Rather than mana regeneration.

[candid axle]

I don't get the mana regen on a TANK

why ?

the only thing you can TRY to get is blink

[quasi shale]

Better blocks, some reflect damage. Something

Yeah

[candid axle]

and then its uprageds

it's cool and all but you don't need mana regen

or at least not now cuz we don't have any skill that requires mana on the mele tree

[quasi shale]

Also something I could imagine, like whirlwind or other skills should use mana instead of endurance.

Having no endurance after depleting your stamina on an whirlwind and not killing the enemy.

[candid axle]

and it could be buffed through mana too

like there is stone and water magic but only for the god damn draks guy and mage

[quasi shale]

….
What’s also very frustrating, why do caster and archer foes have such a high poise? I’m hitting them with my axe and they continue casting like nothing happened.

[candid axle]

could be nice to have more magic like wind and water then make str / int build

[candid axle]

that's . . . real

again

like I get ONE shot by some guy with a mace when using my bow

but he be like, "nah I will tank"

[wild aurora]

Especially daggers

[cunning mural]

that is so valid
we get hit by a weak skeleton, and get hit-stun
but archers and stuff can be smacked with a giant mallet and be totally fine and keep shooting

[quasi shale]

Exactly this

I really hope melees will get some major reworks before release

[candid axle]

I don't thing rework are needed but new skills definetly

[quasi shale]

That’s what I mean, just rework the strength trees.

[candid axle]

personaly more weapon like throwables, spears and trident, and even a better ragdol when using 2h and contendent

[sleek rover]

Yeah, I'm playing 2H and my friend is playing mage. He can kill a large amount of enemies, and I suffer with 2 wolves 💀

[weary crane]

Probably because a melee person could easily 'stun lock them' if they could be super easily interupted.

[weary crane]

Ice Aura, blink out, Ice shot.

I just wish "Frozen" was actually a debuff that stacked until they were, you know, actually frozen.

[misty sedge]

Before U8, Greatsword could literally staggerlock enemies with regular swings. It almost wasn't fun

[cunning mural]

I wish melee attacks "Traded" more, where both parties take damage

[steel dune]

finally my shock 2hand build is complete

[fossil otter]

feels like Blackmire was DEFINITELY not this obnoxious before lol.... falling in the black goop shouldn't be basically a guaranteed death sentence. Just annoying and "artificial difficulty"

there's a reason u dont see these things in soulsborne

[cunning mural]

I swear Tar got worse

you sink faster, have to jump more often, jumping takes way too much stamina... something, idk what
it felt like you could escape it before, now it's just "ugh, fine, I guess I am dead now, struggling to escape isn't real, it's a myth, it just makes death take longer"

[misty sedge]

it did get worse

I think it was mentioned in U8 patch notes

[fossil otter]

well, un-worse it lol

[livid sundial]

Can somebody explain me the levels of jewels? I upgraded them till lvl 10 but the stats did not change? 🤔

[fossil otter]

like holy shit it wouldnt be so bad if the terrain around here didnt frickin just.... slide you right back into the sludge u are trying to escape

[steel dune]

aight ready for the next patch

[quasi shale]

I mean, that would make sense. They should be forced to draw a melee weapon in such a situation.

[north torrent]

Anyone know a good gem for 2 handed weapons? I’m still at kindlewastes

[mossy ridge]

The HH there I believe is what drops the gems of soul reaping, that's a best gem for everything

The rest depends on the weapon and build

[north torrent]

Hmmm… I’ll check it out

Thank you

[mossy ridge]

Soul reaping is a healing gem, its crazy good for fighting mobs

Most gems aren't really that great, but if you have say a 2H with fire damage then burning is a decent option, same for a weapon with shroud damage and a shroud gem

Battle Mania is probably the main gem for builds not running a gem of currents build - but it's more of a boss fight gem and requires elixir

I've taken to running like 5 different greatswords at max 😅

I have a piercing, soul reaping, shroud, lycanthropy for night and a battle mania for bosses

[north torrent]

Gem of storm’s eye sounds promising for clustered mobs

I wonder if it’s good with the gs ulti

[bronze hollow]

Gem of Hopeful Embers is the only one you need

[mossy ridge]

Think I forgot to test the chain lightning - can't remember if I made a sword with it

I know it has an internal cooldown though of like 1S

[north torrent]

In concept it sounds good though, imagine chain lightning through the ulti of gs

Not to mention the cool lighting vfx that pops out of your character from time to time