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vague galleon
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Hawken......................................

timber prism
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I was really hopeful on Hawken

peak marsh
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Yeah xD But if they can put the kind of intricacy into it that they put into Absolver and Sifu, it could be kind of amazing

timber prism
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There is definitely a high skill ceiling for Rematch just like RL

vague galleon
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i dropped like 30-50 bucks on bundles for Hawken. I liked it that much. it was soooo good. except for dealing with fast mechs. bastards always escaped with like 5 HP left.

timber prism
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But yeah its different haha

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Instead of Hawken we do have new mecha game which is extremely fun

peak marsh
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vague galleon
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its already dead on PC.

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has been for years.

timber prism
peak marsh
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Yep, that's the one. Mecha Break looks kind of amazing

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Like Mechwarrior meets Virtual On

timber prism
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Its improved a lot through closed testing

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Excited for launch

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Virtua On is 🥰

peak marsh
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And I mean that, like it has the kind of weighty mechanics of Mechwarrior, but the arcade-y over the top feel of Virtual On and I'm totally here for it xD

vague galleon
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speaking of mechs.

peak marsh
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(Yes I had a Saturn xD)

frank sonnet
peak marsh
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Top 5 Saturn games right now off the top of my head: Guardian Heroes, Virtual On, Virtua Fighter 2, Nights, Sega Rally Championship. Fite me

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Though TBF arguments could be made for working Panzier Dragoon in there but like, what would you remove to make it fit? xD

timber prism
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No Panzeer Dragoon????

tepid wadi
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This is where I would put my exciting new MMO release... IF I HAD ONE

vague galleon
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MMOs are overrated anyway

timber prism
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Snake Eater remake

vague galleon
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they're all trash

peak marsh
# timber prism No Panzeer Dragoon????

And I mean also Shining Force. Also Daytona. Also Legend of Oasis. The Saturn had some really great games but like those would be my five "desert island" picks xD

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Like for as fun and unique and replayable as they all are

frank sonnet
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since the topics of mechs and old school games came up did you know Capcom made two mech games?

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peak marsh
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Oh yeah, that's where Shin (and Blodia) from MVC comes from IIRC

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Sorry Jin, not Shin

timber prism
peak marsh
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Sega Rally was so good though xD

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And I mean as Saturn racers go easily the best. Daytona is fun for an afternoon but it gets really repetitive with only 3 tracks. Like props for doing an accurate arcade port for the time but it really felt more like a "demo mode" game than an actual game

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Like, the game they have running on the kiosk at GameStop until you get "DAYYYYTOONNNNAAAA DOOT DO DO DOOT" stuck in your head xD

tepid wadi
# vague galleon they're all trash

Just because all the new ones we see are moneygrubbing garbage doesn't mean they HAVE to be trash. You definitely can design one that isn't, you just have to actually think about it instead of blindly copying the past.

peak marsh
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Yeah, while I can't argue that the vast, vast majority of MMOs over the last decade have been trash, the genre itself is not at fault for that. It's just a genre that predatory investors see as ripe for the picking

tepid wadi
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It's also probably the hardest genre of games to get right because it's such a massive spiderweb of interconnected systems. But if one in a hundred does manage to get it right, they'll be able to retain players forever.

peak marsh
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Yeah but from the predatory investor standpoint, they see a genre that's starved for content, where the player base is invested and all they need to do is make something serviceable to see a steady revenue stream

tepid wadi
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Yep, which sucks and is kind of ironic because they make things that are serviceable but forget that they have to continually work on them to keep the revenue stream steady

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New World is a great example of the "flash in the pan" serviceable MMO

peak marsh
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And they're already copying that xD

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(I've seen more evidence, Chrono Odyssey is totally copying New World xD)

tepid wadi
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oh? I'd love to see it

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Also, there are certain things about NW that are worth copying. Like most MMOs, there's a nugget of goodness in there and you have to take that, not just wholesale copy the thing.

peak marsh
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And I stand by my earlier point, maybe we're being too harsh xD Amazon will probably drop New World when their LotR MMO releases and those entrenched players will need some place to go to

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Like, maybe in this one case a little copying isn't a bad thing xD

tepid wadi
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Yeah, I mean if someone designs a really strong PvP area (the forts), then what's the problem with copying it? Also, you can only design a fort in so many ways before it doesn't serve it's actual purpose.

I mean I have questions about why that's the POI they'd copy since it sounds like Chrono Odyssey is a PvE game, but that's a different question 😝

peak marsh
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It probably wont happen right away, it'll be a year-long process, but New World isn't exactly lighting up the charts or dethroning WoW so I don't see much reason for them to sustain it

tepid wadi
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Yeah, I mean people like new stuff. Almost everyone who bought NW is gonna buy a LOTR MMO, why keep supporting NW?

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It'll never have the IP reach that LOTR will

peak marsh
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But in the meantime, NW players will want something familiar xD

tranquil cove
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the bad thing with battlefront 2 is the campaign 😆 they are humanizing the empire for some weird reason. these people aren't ideologically equivalents of the rebellion, they aren't just misinformed by palpatine, they are complicit in atrocities. EA is trying to make it seem like both sides could be the good side from perspective. ROFL, so the player can enjoy playing the empire? nah EA you suck, and your narrative sucks. This character just witnessed the deathstar get destroyed, and she goes "it's okay we can grieve later" lol grieve for what? you have no friends, you're in a cut throat regime, where its everyone for themselves. grieving that the empire is losing? or lost a planet destroying weapon? I don't think an empire soldier would grieve or say that unless they were batcrap crazy fanatical about the empire controlling the universe.

tepid wadi
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I mean its no different than disney trying to sanitize the sith

tranquil cove
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it's just 12 year old level story telling, it's annoying

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maybe this character switches to the rebellion after? that would be cool, but the impact is now lessened, if she wasn't somehow verifiably evil at first.

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like mara jade was

peak marsh
tranquil cove
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anyway aside from the story the campaign is done well, and the settings, graphics, interactions etc. all nice.

tepid wadi
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The heroes on the empire side are the ones that worked with the rebellion. Rogue One is a great example

tranquil cove
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gameplay is good, but can we at least acknolwedge these are the bad guys beyond being called empire? and empire symbols?

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i want this character to be evil, go on a spiritual journey somehow

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and then end up fighting for rebellion

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not be "relatively good" and then realize shes on the bad side

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how flipping clueless do you need to be

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that is if it is a switching sides story, i dont know yet

frank sonnet
tranquil cove
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like her ship is called the eviscerator, and her squad is called inferno squad. lol she can't clue in that shes evil?

tepid wadi
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lol

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"Are we the baddies?"

tranquil cove
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to be fair the campaign could have me just playing both sides separately

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and there is no character development at all

peak marsh
tepid wadi
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I don't think people play star wars games that feature main characters from the movies so they can have character development. They play them so they can blast people as han solo or force throw people as darth vader.

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For character development, you'd have to go to game specific characters like the Jedi Survivor games

peak marsh
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Nah true story, people play Star Wars games because light saber go brrrr haha

tepid wadi
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Yeah exactly

peak marsh
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But I mean as a competitive shooter it has a lot to lend to the genre, especially with the specter off mtx removed

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Side note, this is a take I more or less agree with, https://youtu.be/fMsTxy351CE?t=1425

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tranquil cove
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space combat is pretty bad in battlefront

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in terms of realism

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like i'm not supposed to get 48 kills in a tie fighter

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the best starwars pilots maybe got like 6-8 kills a mission lol

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especially on empires side, where they have no shields

frank sonnet
tranquil cove
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yeah, well even real world accuracy

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fighter pilots in world war 2 didn't single handedly shoot down 48 planes

tepid wadi
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Not with that kind of attitude, certainly

tranquil cove
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x-wing commander was a better game

tepid wadi
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I don't think people are too concerned with real world accuracy in their future past space wizards and laser swords universe

tranquil cove
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they are spawning rebel ships

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like rebel army is 500 times more rich than empire

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it's pretty ridiculous

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lol

tepid wadi
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I'ma be honest. I don't think anyone but you really cares/puts much thought into that, heh. They just want to play fun game.

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If you're playing empire, you need lots of rebel ships to blow up. That's it

tranquil cove
# tepid wadi If you're playing empire, you need lots of rebel ships to blow up. That's it

yeah but really its not well done imo, it's lazy. people change lore to push plot they made instead of basing plot around lore. and we just agreed disney tells bad stories and EA tells bad stories too, so the payoff is minimal.

for example you could create a story situation where you're 1 ship vs 12 x-wings. and then just make the x-wing hard to defeat, and make it where you fly in canyons to evade them, and give them shields, and suddenly it's a challenging and more realistic game.

the rebels wouldn't have 50 ships, 12 is a squadron size, and as an empire soldier you're alone, so they don't need 50 ships, so 1 vs 12 makes sense. the rebels would send just 12 x-wings against whole star destroyers. 200 ships comes in a final battle, or when the rebellion actually turns into the new republic.

the whole you're a hero look at you shoot 120 ships outta the sky, isn't fun to me. it's boring, that only works in actual multiplayer setting. i guess the game has this problem because its an MP game with a campaign and they wanted the campaign to be practice for the MP rather than be totally different in terms of difficulty.

timber prism
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how boring would the game be if you destroyed like 1 ship per space battle?

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I would never play that game

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its an arcadey multiplayer shooter with hero units... the goal is not for lore accuracy

tranquil cove
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it's boring now, its like asteroids — thats how many ships there are, and they are as challenging as rocks. if you need to destroy 50 ships to feel good about yourself, it shows why games are so bad today. id rather have fewer enemies but with actual AI where its hard to shoot them down. i prefer my space combat more simulator and less arcade, and this also matches with rebels not having 150 ships. the alternative a few x-wings vs 50 tie fighters makes sense though, thats why x-wings had shields.

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also the story fleshed out, the emperor died, and issues order to destroy empire planets. and thats when the empire girl switches sides... constantly claiming "it's a new empire, with new orders" she thinks the empire was good before this lol. way to make the MC so clueless that I can't sympathize with her.

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she draws the line at genocide of her own planet, fine annhilating the rest of galaxy? but then also, was the empire not doing crazy stuff before palpatine died? suddenly palpatine is evil after death? it frames the empire as possibly okay before this. which isn't good.

tepid wadi
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It's bordering on the political, but a big part of showing that sort of thing is showing that a lot of people aren't concerned with other people unless they know them. Propaganda is a powerful thing and sometimes it only falls apart when things directly affect the person that has been swayed by it. I think that's what they were trying to convey, that she's 100% all in because she's basically been brainwashed, but then when it comes to blowing up HER planet where she KNOWS there are good people, it's a wake up call that all the things she's been told have been a lie.

tranquil cove
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i can count the number of aliens working for the empire on my hand, and they were high ranking. i don't get why this alien gets to be one of them.

tranquil cove
# tepid wadi It's bordering on the political, but a big part of showing that sort of thing is...

then i don't know, they need to show the brainwashing better. like maybe have her parents call her and tell her shes been brainwashed. the reason i don't buy it is because the empire spanned a galaxy, but it didn't have ironfist control like 1984 at any point. it didn't have the ability to really cover anything up, because that would require suppressing knowledge across a whole galaxy. you could always find the information if you were looking or even just knew people. she was also part of special operations team... surely the missions she was sent on were morally questionable.

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You're not being nitpicky — you're pointing out real narrative inconsistencies. If the game* wanted to tell a “redemption” story about someone waking up from fascist indoctrination, it needs to earn that arc through conflict, exposure to truth, and consequences — not by suddenly nuking her hometown and expecting that to be enough. And portraying the pre-Endor Empire as “not that bad” until Palpatine’s final act? That’s dangerously close to whitewashing a galactic fascist regime. If the writers were trying to show how someone can be blinded until it affects them personally — they fumbled the execution.
I guess you have to take my word for it, trust me I know starwars, or at least starwars before disney. None of this crap would fly. I read 50 books. Chatgpt agrees but probably because it has access to all of wookiepedia.

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tepid wadi
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There have been MMOs with decent combat. It's always going to be a bit worse than non-MMO games just because of the latency factor and hundreds of players at once. I've enjoyed combat in Rift, Archeage, Tera, GW2... probably others I can't think of right now. None of them have been perfect, but they've been plenty of fun.

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The combat isn't high octane action, but it can be tactical and interesting. And yeah it usually breaks down when there are massive zergs, but I feel like that's rarely a problem if the game is built to handle it at least somewhat.

round beacon
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Aion was damn fun aswell back in the day.
still.baffled how they got the pvp raids figured out so well. despite what some might say, they where a hell of a lot of fun and surprisingly good to handle even for mediocre machines

tepid wadi
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Yeah, I'm interested in Aion 2

round beacon
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oh im so lookin at that one. im... VEEEEERRYYY carefully optimistic. and it might also be some sort of oldschool bias. but i played the old one for a verylong time. and i had a shitton of fun with it. and contrary to other mmos i actualy enjoyed all aspects of it be it the dungeons. the raids the large scale siege pvp hell even the small scale open world pvp was fun

timber prism
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As unbalanced as it was, I was also a fan of Wildstar combat

round beacon
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Wildstar wasa banger of an Mmo and way to underated.

peak marsh
vague galleon
peak marsh
finite saffron
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honestly one of the craziest examples of DRM I've ever seen, I wonder if this will inspire any lawsuits or law changes

peak marsh
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Yeah, it really underscores the whole "you own nothing"

tepid wadi
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They probably just laid off the only person who knows how the permaban system works 🤷‍♀️

reef bobcat
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CE33, if you have a good computer.
This will be the very best game for you in 2025.
I spend 49 hours in my first game play, and game + grinding some and finished with the 2nd story line at 89 hours. 🙂
You should try it. ❤️
(Actual game footage)

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ashen notch
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I am mostly relaxing on my favorite game. Sometimes as a mermaid.

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frank sonnet
ashen notch
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Infinity Nikki. ❤️

timber prism
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Still have Bonanza to play

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And I currently have Death Stranding 2 above CE33

ashen notch
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I made exactly one screenshot of the first game. After that I bought a new PC and used a controller for it and always forgot about screenies.

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reef bobcat
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The beginning of my HUMOUNGOS BUILD.
Over 5000 blocks used just for the text🙂
(early piture) @low vine @ashen notch

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Planet Crafter ❤️

low vine
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wow nice 🙂

ashen notch
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wow

reef bobcat
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🥹

ashen notch
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Hmm, lemme find the screenshots. Hmm, no, seems I did not make many.

peak marsh
ashen notch
reef bobcat
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it is no more fun for me, as I know 100% what to do

ashen notch
reef bobcat
ashen notch
reef bobcat
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there is 4 in total, Prime is your main 3 others if your buy dlc

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late game is just way to easy 🙂

ashen notch
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A new DLC will come for sure. That is what I meant.

reef bobcat
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it already came out 🙂

ashen notch
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Not the moons. The next one in development.

reef bobcat
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"that's what they have been cooking" - they said

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do you have the full game ?

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I think it lack atm

ashen notch
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Look: We will now start to work on our next content. As announced previously, this will be a new DLC. We can already tell you it will be a new planet, with new mechanics and story telling. Codename: Toxicity.

reef bobcat
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maybe it is just me

ashen notch
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Yes, I have the full game.

reef bobcat
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hm

reef bobcat
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given us two lame updates, I feel taking in the long draw

ashen notch
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I will play it anyways. But it is not a AA game, so I have no expectations. I just enjoy the games vibes.:)

reef bobcat
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I just need more context, like quests, or something I can find

ashen notch
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Ah.

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Exploration and immersion are my main reason for gaming.

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And building of course.

reef bobcat
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and the quests is not fixed, it is really bad made, and you lose track really fast.

peak marsh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnQHlTab73A - it's interesting how press and large studios are shifting the blame for the industry's failures to the users instead of looking inward

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tepid wadi
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The sucky part is I can guarantee you that 80%+ of the people at any large corporation don't think like that. It's just the executive leeches that just care about stock price

lofty oriole
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Spreading the word

A EU initiative is underway to stop publishers from killing games THAT YOU BOUGHT after stopping their support.

Need all enshrouded players attention to it. Fight back against "you don't own anything".

https://www.stopkillinggames.com/eci

FAQ has answers to main questions.

Spreading the word

timber prism
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Uhhhhhh

tepid wadi
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It's legit, I've been seeing some stuff about it. It's basically a petition to create legislation in the EU to make dev teams offer tools to allow passionate players to create communities for online games when the game support is being sunsetted.

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So things like MMOs when the dev stops want to shut the game down, they'd need to publish the tools to let players keep the game up if they want.

peak marsh
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Yeah, it's nearing it's final days to support and it's actually a good initiative that's been taking a lot of flak and facing a lot of misinformation online

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And the dev tool publishing thing is actually part of that. It's not that the devs need to do anything but leave the game in a playable state. Right now you have games that will literally uninstall themselves from your system without permission when the company ends support for it

vague galleon
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definitely legit

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and maybe poorly designed that it might cause more trouble than good.

tepid wadi
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I mean it's an initiative, not an actual law. So there'd be a lot of discussion and specifics that would go into a law

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Even if it's poorly worded, the concept is strong and it would be a big consumer protection no matter how it got hashed out

peak marsh
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Yep, exactly. I also see it as an issue of overreach, no matter what they put in a TOS it shouldn't give the company the right to remove data that's physically on my HD

vague galleon
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there was a HUGE discussion about it in another discord of mine that I couldnt read all of.

peak marsh
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Also if the game is paid for it should be left playable so people could say, reverse engineer server emulation software etc. Not for profit of course, the purpose isn't to subvert copyright law

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But a user should have the option to keep operating a piece of software they legally purchased. That's basically what the legislation is about

tepid wadi
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Yeah, there'll probably be a lot of discussions about it because it's up against it's edge

vague galleon
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its crazy how fast we move onto new games and new stories these days.

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when thousands of years ago people probably shared so few.

tepid wadi
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Not even thousands of years ago. Lik 25 years ago, we had like... 3-5 decent game releases a year

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across ALL genres

peak marsh
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I'd put the number a little higher across all systems but yeah, significantly less than we see now just in spring xD

steel lagoon
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Hello, where can I get this item?

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tepid wadi
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Yeah I mean that's exaggerating a bit, but it wasn't too long ago that there were WAY fewer game release. But at the same time, gaming has also gotten a way bigger audience than it had before

tepid wadi
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This channel is for discussion on non-enshrouded games, mostly

vague galleon
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how many books did we have to read.

tepid wadi
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Yeah I mean if you're going that high level, for sure

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Couple thousand years ago, most people couldn't read and the only leisure activity that was similar was storytelling

peak marsh
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Until very, very recently, like 1900s I think? Books were a luxury for the wealthy

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Hard to store and difficult to produce, most people simply didn't have access except for maybe certain basic books

vague galleon
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yup. thats what im saying.

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it's kind of wild.

peak marsh
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Most entertainment was like, if a play was being performed in town or they were hanging a guy in the town square lol

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Throwing rotten vegetables at the guy who got put in the stocks for attempting to fornicate with livestock xD

vague galleon
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how the moment we had access to spreading tons of entertrainment that we are now flooded. like flipping a switch.

peak marsh
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Yeah, we have more access to more entertainment and information than anyone at any point in all of recorded history

frank sonnet
tepid wadi
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I disagree with that, actually. We still have some closeminded people, but things are FAR better for anyone than they were just a few decades ago.

peak marsh
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I'd agree, it's just that the ignorant and closed minded ones are the ones doing the most yelling

tepid wadi
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Let's keep away from politics in a game discord, but when you look at the numbers things are generally better across the board. Still lots of work to do? Yeah, but things are getting better.

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Our brains are simply not evolved in a way to deal with the amount of information (and misinformation) that we're constantly bombarded with. Even just 20ish years ago when I was a kid there was NOTHING comparing to the sort of stuff that gets shoved at us now.

peak marsh
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Yeah, we're going from having concerns on a local scale to thinking about things far more globally and our brains really aren't made for that.

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The term "monkeysphere" refers to the concept that humans can maintain a limited number of meaningful social relationships, typically around 150, due to cognitive and evolutionary constraints. This concept, also known as Dunbar's number, suggests that the human brain can only manage a certain number of complex social connections where individuals know each other and understand their relationships within the group

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Kind of that concept. We aren't wired to think about hundreds of people and equally many different complex situations all at once

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(it's called a monkeysphere because the idea came up from monkey researchers who noticed a pattern between different monkey types and the social groups they were able to form and maintain, and figured out that by looking at their brain structure you could accurately predict the size of the social structure they would form. Human brains being similar in design allow for that same level of prediction)

peak marsh
tepid wadi
peak marsh
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Trying to make people so scared/upset/angry that they stay tuned in for one more Proctor & Gamble advertisement

frank sonnet
peak marsh
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Well that's not what I'd call journalism, that's what I refer to as news media entertainment. Journalism sets out to convey information, NME sets out to sell you something, be it advertising or thought patterns

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But now I'm sounding a little tin foil hat xD

frank sonnet
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to get back on track anybody here about the Warhammer 40k space marine master crafted addition backlash?

peak marsh
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News to me

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(cwatididthar? xD)

frank sonnet
peak marsh
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"see what I did there?"

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c wat i did thar

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It was a joke, because we were talking about journalisim, and then "news to me".. ANYWAYS xD

frank sonnet
# peak marsh News to me

Tldr a bad remaster of space marine 1 got released going for the same price as anniversary edition but barely changing anything about it

peak marsh
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Like an official release?

frank sonnet
peak marsh
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I only see a handful of people talking about it on YT and they're mostly doing an early impressions version saying it's worthwhile

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Then again with rare exceptions 40k games almost never get a lot of coverage

tepid wadi
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I mean, I feel like some recent remasters are breaking the trend. Like, most of the time remasters we've gotten have been hot garbage cashgrabs. Just a few recent ones have been actually pretty good

stray coral
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Skyrim has been good

peak marsh
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The System Shock 2 remaster looks really good

vague galleon
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i wnjoyed space marine a lot but i was very bad at it so i had to drop it

stiff night
peak marsh
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One conversation I find myself having is back when news was mostly centralized and you got it primarily from the newspaper or one of the AP news outlets, we all got the same facts, and we could have discussions because we just differed on our opinions of those facts. Any more the facts are wildly different and our differences in opinion become irreconcilable because we can't even agree on the facts

stiff night
peak marsh
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Like (and no, I am absolutely not getting into a flat earther discussion xD) if you think the world is flat and I think the world is round, we'll never be able to have a common understanding on how sunsets happen

vague galleon
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why would you think the earth is round? ||(sadly I must clarify this is a joke but I dont want to. I WANT DRAMA)||

peak marsh
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And I mean not to wax nostalgic about centralized media either. We have a free flow of information without some presiding body deciding what is important for us to know and what isn't, and that's good, but the downside is we have a lot more to filter through and most people just aren't going to put in that effort. They'll accept whatever makes the most sense to them whether or not it's factually accurate

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I'm sure in cases I'm guilty as well

frank sonnet
vague galleon
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:D

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ICE WALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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vague galleon
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neeevaaaah

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vague galleon
tranquil cove
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you dont even own your operating system, nevermind a game

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you don't even own your cell phone

peak marsh
frank sonnet
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Deez nutz

peak marsh
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tranquil cove
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i agree with people i dislike, since my dedication is to the truth

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i've been on the internet for 27 years, this was stuff you fell into when you were 12 years old.

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except for new people on the internet it's stuff they will just be starting i guess

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and in a technical sense, i don't really dislike anyone, i dislike ideas or choices people make.

peak marsh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa1QqYPu0Lk - Looks like the devs are open to the criticisim they've been getting

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frank sonnet
ashen river
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Does anyone play STALKER 2 after new path? Is it worth to play right now?

vague galleon
peak marsh
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Yeaj, I posted that one a couple days ago. Another fine example of "you own nothing"

tranquil cove
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why cant you overturn it?

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no ban is permanent.

tepid wadi
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I joked before that if you fire the team who knows how the ban system works, it could be tough to unravel.

peak marsh
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Could be some intricate system level disabling of online functions. Nintendo is hard-line like that

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It's at least deep enough that a factory reset won't even fix it

tepid wadi
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Yeah, if it cant connect to the internet, they cant push updates

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And if an internet connection is required to finalize the factory reset...

peak marsh
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And in particular with Switch 2, it needed a day 1 patch to even function. No patch? Nice paperweight

tranquil cove
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eh i dont really buy it, theres no ban that is permanent, it's just time consuming to unban

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like if you want you can use a chip editor even to edit hardware

tepid wadi
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Yeah, but 98% of people arent gonna know what that is, much less do it.

peak marsh
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And at very least it's probably something they'd have to unbrick at the hardware end

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Could be why they're going with "can't do it"

tepid wadi
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Also nintendo isnt gonna basically teach people how to hack their product

peak marsh
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Though while I get doing that for using devices like flash carts (kind of..) in the article above they did it over a name they deemed offensive, which seems a little extra

tranquil cove
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sounds like nintendo has 1 ban system

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they should have done multiple ones that progressively get worse each time

peak marsh
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I mean, it already feels extra to effectively brick your $500 console but in the case of potential piracy I'll relent

tranquil cove
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so offensive name = light ban, the user probably wont know how to uban

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heavy ban = for a real troublemaker who also has knowledge how to unban the light bans

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i forget what the chip editors were called

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there was a name, now i just called it a generality based on what it does

tepid wadi
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Nintendo has never cared more about its consumer practices than it has about protecting its IP and such

peak marsh
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Yeahz otherwise we wouldn't see so many DCMAs or so much artificial scarcity that forces people into doing business with scalpers

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Especially with things like free not-for-profit fan projects (AM2R comes to mind)

lofty oriole
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Hi everyone, with the permission of mods I want to spread the word about an EU citizens initiative to stop publishers from killing our games https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

Basically the goal of the petition is to have talks with the European Commision so that publishers would leave their games in a playable state after abandoning them.

One blatant example of such a case if Ubisoft's The Crew, where last year Ubisoft delisted the game from the store and shut down the servers, making the game unplayable and basically ripping off their customers.

As for an analogy: imagine you have a car, paid off fully, and after a few years somebody remotely shuts it down and you can't use it. That's the current situation with video games.

This is less about games and about protecting consumer rights. Gamers and non-gamers alike from the EU should sign this petition.

Once again, https://www.stopkillinggames.com/ if you need more info, there is a separate discord with lots of people. Volunteers also could help by joining and spreading the word. We also need translators for the page and there is also a plan to reach out to countries' free-to-air TV broadcasters with an email. But we need help.

Fight back against "you own nothing" and help preserve video games. If you're not from the EU - help spread the word to your fellow EU people. If you're from the UK, there's a separate petition. If you're from France and had a copy of Ubisoft's The Crew, you can join an ongoing class action lawsuit against them.

Thanks to mods for approving this message

misty arch
tranquil cove
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its annoying that killingfloor had 2 sequels

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also none of those games interest me

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abiotic factor because i already own it, that's it

peak marsh
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https://www.rudebaguette.com/en/2025/06/worlds-first-ar-ad-blocker-erases-reality-shocking-new-tech-deletes-logos-and-branding-from-the-physical-world-in-real-time/ - they're making ad blockers for life now xD

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“World’s First AR Ad Blocker Erases Reality”: Shocking New Te...

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tepid wadi
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I support the concept, I hate ads in all forms

frank sonnet
vague galleon
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its stupid and i love it.

frank sonnet
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this is a joke you would have seen in futurama

tranquil cove
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i think i plan to boycott google

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gonna start using an alternative search engine, i dont need social media, so that works. i already ad block youtube like crazy.

peak marsh
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A lot of people are going fully off network and locally hosting their own AI driven search engines. Full control of all data sent

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And while I don't approve of a lot of egregious uses of AI, something like searching the web for text strings without conglomerates using your data like you're in one of those pods in The Matrix is a great application

peak marsh
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One tinkering project I've been thinking about getting into is first getting a raspberry pi and setting up a pi-hole on my network. Basically network-wide ad and tracker blocking that can't be detected/blocked by websites on any device connected to the network. Like it filters ads and trackers at the router level so any phone, tablet, TV, PC, etc is covered

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Then getting a midrange mini PC and setting up a local web search

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You can get a barebones mini PC with an AMD AI chip for around $500

vague galleon
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I kind of want to get one of my xunes working again..... 😭

peak marsh
stray coral
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See I need to find myself a tech to improve my PC , i use to be kinda knowledgeable on it but the speed it changes outran the speed i learn!

peak marsh
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The bullet points

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peak marsh
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Honestly if you've ever built a PC all you really need to do is brush up on a few acronyms and you're back in it xD

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Especially hardware-wise, if anything it's even easier because it's far more plug and play

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The stuff I'm talking about is the options I mentioned, raspberry pi is basically an extremely cheap and versatile micro PC you can configure to do a lot of simple tasks. Some people turn them into emulation consoles, some people use them for mechanical automation, some people set them up as automatic ad blockers like I'm talking about or local file servers, etc

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It's so cheap, in an issue of PC gamer they actually had a raspberry pi in a little ESD bag stapled to the cover. So it was a PC magazine where the PC they were talking about was actually included with the magazine xD

stray coral
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I have had no issues but know it is getting old .

peak marsh
peak marsh
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Certain components, especially video cards, have gotten drastically more expensive so it's really only worth it to upgrade then

tranquil cove
peak marsh
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And really, the performance on a lot of things is in a state where you really don't need a complete system replacement every 3 - 5 years

peak marsh
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There are a ton of tutorials out there for it too

tranquil cove
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pi hole means i need to buy a raspberry pi?

peak marsh
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Yep

tranquil cove
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i feel like if i search pi hole something bad will popup

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lol

tranquil cove
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will that one work

peak marsh
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Probably. It doesn't need much

tranquil cove
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but i dont know how to connect to it

peak marsh
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Like I said, there's a ton of really easy tutorials

tranquil cove
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btw do you know a good way to host a discord bot for free?

peak marsh
# tranquil cove but i dont know how to connect to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE21YjuaB6o

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World's Greatest Pi-hole Tutorial - Easy Raspberry Pi Project!

Pi-hole is a network-wide ad blocker that is designed to run on a Raspberry Pi. This is a fun and easy Raspberry Pi project that can be completed in less than an hour! Full written step-by-step directions are included at the link below!

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tranquil cove
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so i dont need to leave my computer online 24/7

peak marsh
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A cheapo mini PC or raspberry pi again would be good for that

tranquil cove
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so i can use the same raspberry pi

peak marsh
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Maybe. Depending on what pi it is and how much of it is needed for pi hole

tranquil cove
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my pi says

peak marsh
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I mean, a discord bot should be pretty light weight

tranquil cove
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Raspberry P1
2011.12

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Made in China.

tranquil cove
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my rapsberry has a sd card that says element14, debian 6 for linux

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4gig

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lol

peak marsh
tranquil cove
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oh it has a network, and hdmi port? you mean i need to connect this to a computer screen then?

peak marsh
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No screen required. That's why they're great to use as network filters

tranquil cove
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so im confused is this going to be a separate OS, or is it something that runs on my computer? to block the ads, or do you mean my network will go through the pihole and then my pc?

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i feel like that would slow my internet. also there is only one network port on the raspberry pi.

peak marsh
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Pretty much. AFAIK the pi hole runs on linux, which is installed on the pi. Once set up, the pi intercepts your network traffic, filters the ads, then you get the rest of the data

tranquil cove
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how does the raspberry connect to my pc

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i have a modem, connected to a router, and i like to hardwire directly to my PC

peak marsh
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Yeah it only needs one. Basically the pi connects to your router, and everything else uses the pi as it's DNS server meaning that you're using the router to connect to the pi

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Watch the tutorial, it explains it xD

tranquil cove
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so im using the PI to browse the internet then

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not my PC

peak marsh
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It's not slowing anything down because all the pi is doing is deciding what you can and can't see, and you tell it what those things are

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You're still using your PC, the pi is just stepping between the raw data and what you actually see

tranquil cove
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this makes no sense

peak marsh
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Like, think about it for a minute, how much more advanced is the chipset on your router vs the chipset on a pi? You're not downgrading your performance xD

tranquil cove
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maybe if it was a brand new pi

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but this pi from 2011

peak marsh
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Yeah, routers aren't much more advanced unless you have some ultra-premium $1500 wifi 7 router

tranquil cove
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this makes no sense it's not explaining how anything is connected to my PC

peak marsh
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Yeah, that

tranquil cove
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it just shows a magical arrow

peak marsh
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Yeah, that's how routing works xD You're using the Pi as your DNS server

tranquil cove
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so whats connected to my PC

peak marsh
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Your PC is connected physically to the router

tranquil cove
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and the router is connected to the PI?

peak marsh
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Yes

tranquil cove
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ah okay, so the router is going to do a step in the PI

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and then go to my PC after

peak marsh
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Through the magic of network infastructure, you're connecting locally to the Pi through the router, which is then filtering which domains are allowed to send you data

tranquil cove
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will this mess up wifi? for my PC in the other room or it will ad block for that PC too?

peak marsh
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Nope. Works on wifi too

tranquil cove
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okay sweet ty

peak marsh
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Again you're using it as a DNS server, as long as you and the pi are on the same network you can find it

tranquil cove
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but there are no DNS servers i can just search for online

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that will adblock already?

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and set my DNS

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like why is this better than that?

peak marsh
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I mean no, because those aren't local. You'd be better off using a software alternative like adblock or a VPN. The benefit of it being local is the "transaction" between your PC and the pi is far, far faster than your download speed, so you literally don't notice it

tranquil cove
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so it's also beneficial for privacy i guess?

peak marsh
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The Pi isn't transferring a bunch of data, it's just blocking what you download (ads, trackers, etc)

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Yep. Because now big tech isn't getting all that juicy tracker data from you

tranquil cove
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chatgpt insulted me

peak marsh
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The robot uprising has begun ._.

tranquil cove
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lol

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Your pi is old slow and has very little ram, would have been funny if it said "in other words it sucks"

peak marsh
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"Your pi is bad and you should feel bad" xD

tranquil cove
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it also gave me specs

peak marsh
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Nah, it should be fine for a lightweight discord bot

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Pi hole doesn't need a ton of resources to do what it does

tranquil cove
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You should upgrade the OS — Debian 6 is way too old.

Pi-hole now expects something more modern, like Raspberry Pi OS Lite (based on Debian 11 or 12).

You’ll need at least a 4GB SD card, preferably 8GB or more, for stability and logs.

peak marsh
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Yeah, most-all revisions of pi should be compatable with the latest OS

tranquil cove
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I mean i could upgrade if it's only 50 bucks

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how much does a pi go for now?

peak marsh
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Cheap cheap

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As low as 20 to as high as 120 depending on what specs you want

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But again for what you're doing you don't need a lot

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I'd hazard to say as long as what you have is running at 512 mb RAM you'll be fine

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Ram and storage will be your main bottlenecks, and you really don't need a ton of storage. Again, even with both you're not asking it to do a lot

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Like, it'd be different if you wanted it to be a pi hole and a discord bot but also be a streaming box and run emulation station. You're just asking it for mostly text based stuff and real time processing of data strings. Ram is the big thing in that case

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And even there, 512 should be plenty

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And that's considering it doing it's thing on multiple devices. Like assuming you have two PCs, a cell phone, and a tablet or smart tv all using it at once. Like it's not processing or compiling anything, it's just blocking domains

tranquil cove
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i might still buy a new one, and give this one to my friend

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gonna ask my friend if they want me to set up one for them too

peak marsh
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It's really far better than any software ad blocker as I understand it, because software ad blockers can be detected by sites while in this case, using hardware they really cant

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So no more "You can only watch 3 more videos without disabling your ad blocker" from YT

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Plus the software will auto update it's libraries so it's literally set it and forget it

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Set it up, get it running, never think about ads again

tranquil cove
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but i agree it will probably work well

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and if i can get rid of third party adblocks then why not

peak marsh
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It was an issue with a really popular one called uBlock Origin/Origin lite

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YT got wise to the fact that it was the most common ad blocker so it required changing to another lesser known one

tranquil cove
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right now im using all of these

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peak marsh
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But also, it doesn't just work on PC. Want to check out a video on your phone? Guess what, it's adblocked too without having to use Brave or some other 3rd party browser. Watch it in the YT app xD

tranquil cove
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so if i can downgrade to using none

peak marsh
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Erm, you generally don't want to use multiple ad block extensions at the same time

tranquil cove
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works lol

peak marsh
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If it's working cool, but like, it causes wacky results

tranquil cove
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ads are blocked on youtube and i can watch 100 videos

peak marsh
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I mean, I watch YT constantly with one ad blocker xD

tranquil cove
peak marsh
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No, I said at the beginning that it's a tinkering project I want to start, but I've done a ton of research into it

tranquil cove
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i like they got rid of youtube dislike

peak marsh
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Eh, I don't. Dislikes help to let you know when a video has high engagement (like a lot of views and comments) but bad information at a glance. It's useful for technical videos

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Sometimes the algorithm will push videos to the top of search and make you think they're good just because they have a lot of comments and views, but they might have those comments and views because people are like "WTF are you telling people that's completely wrong and will fry your system!" etc

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Dislikes save me from scrolling through 1,287 comments to reach that conclusion

tranquil cove
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i never really had an issue, i can usually tell if advice is good myself based on knowledge i already have. if it seems off i close the video. im also not scouting 50 new content creators daily in the PC building genre, where if i did 50 new ones daily there would be a chance to run into that issue. I already have a list of trusted content creators. for example it was easy for me to immediately tell if health videos are good, because i took a ton of health classes in university. i don't want to rely on thumbs up or down because these are often feeling based, or disingenious/politically motivated to harm people for stupid reasons.

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and yeah there will be content creators i avoid like the plague, like manosphere stuff or toxic political stuff.

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i don't need a thumbs down to know their ideology is bad and their basically a propaganda channel.

peak marsh
# tranquil cove i never really had an issue, i can usually tell if advice is good myself based o...

I mean, it depends on how informed on the topic you are. If you're jumping in blind on something, lets take raspberry pi for example xD You're probably pretty clever on your politics or your general PC understanding, but if you heard about Pi hole somewhere else and wanted information, without this Discord you'd be searching YT. There might be videos that are a load of old bollocks and don't have good information, but because they're so bad they have a lot of comments and get pushed to the top of the list. With dislikes, you can sniff that out in a glance

tranquil cove
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i had that issue with coding a discord bot, every code i tried from a YT video didn't work. but i think the process helped me learn more, even though at the time it felt like waste of time. and eventually i came across a youtuber whose code slightly worked. and then i found their github and found an updated bot framework, and used the framework and then got chat GPT to help me understand it and how to make it work.

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so now i have a working bot

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i think because every discord bot YT video was out of date by 2 years to 6 years. and i couldn't find a recent one.

peak marsh
tranquil cove
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yeah i get that, i'm just saying dislikes have negatives too

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people weaponize them, sometimes rightfully, sometimes against good people.

peak marsh
tranquil cove
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oh okay, cool

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thats true

peak marsh
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In Steam dislikes bury you in the algorithm, in YT they elevate you just as much as likes do. It feels like a better overall system as long as both are represented

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Which is where I take issue with removing dislikes xD

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Like as long as poeple are making the video relevant, let me see the video. Same should be for games. No Rest For the Wicked is a great Steam example. It got recently buried under a mountain of dislikes, only to listen to player feedback and make major changes. Should that game still be buried even though they listened to and addressed the player feedback only because most people will forget to change their review scores?

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I mean whether or not is still irrelevant, if I wasn't following certain gaming YT channels I wouldn't have known about the update at all, at least not from Steam

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I would have thought the same terrible reviews still apply when a lot of them now don't

timber prism
tranquil cove
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i feel like i can get some info from positive likes

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if something is disliked it will have less likes than if it was universally liked

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and also im just tired of seeing negative stuff online

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i'll judge for myself if it's good, it's not as if seeing dislikes will make me not watch the video anyway

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that means having to trust other people and i basically absolutely don't because i need to see the video to judge for myself if it's good. i'm not relying on misinformation, review bombers etc or simply just another persons preferences.

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just like a very disliked game, doesn't necessarily mean i wont buy the game

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i've bought games with bad reviews or launches before

frank sonnet
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i wish they got rid of comment likes on youtube

timber prism
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I dont have the mindset of seeing a dislike as a negative. It just means a disagreement of content or comment

peak marsh
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In particular when the original intent is disseminating information

tranquil cove
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eh i always take the same critical view of everything

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it's not like i turn off my brain and just agree with what someone tells me because it has thumbs up

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lol i still don't agree with you guys

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but to each their own

tranquil cove
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so i had to criticize it

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it now agrees with me

peak marsh
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I guess, but that's the thing. You can't create an argument for a utpoian world becuase it will never exist. You can only argue in current understandings and evolve yourself as those understandings change ^^

timber prism
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😂

tranquil cove
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chatgpt got the gist of my idealism, in that green checkmark list, that's what i want. but how to achieve that, i'm not sure.

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probably we achieve that through better education and it has nothing to do with likes or dislike function.

timber prism
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I mean. There was a discussion about background story and housing and you failed to concede to that

tranquil cove
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because there is nothing to concede

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alot of the disagreements with me, are because i operate from different criteria/framework.

timber prism
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You were proven wrong by everyone

tranquil cove
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you probably shouldn't bring up past discussions, it's not constructive. mod will tell you the same thing.

timber prism
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Its current to what you were saying now

tranquil cove
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we were talking about this discussion

timber prism
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And you said even if not correct you will concede and just pointing it out

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That's all. Its okay to be stubborn

tranquil cove
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i was talking about this discussion

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i was reframing it

timber prism
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Oh gotcha

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So just this discussion you are willing to do that

tranquil cove
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i live in the moment, not the past

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the past discussion, all the details are gone, i dont want to spend 1 hour rehashing it

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it was just different perspectives

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nobody was wrong

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somewhat similar to this discussion, but i'm willing to admit i'm wrong here, because likes or dislikes doesn't achieve the green list chatgpt made, we've already had no likes on youtube and we still have toxic culture online.

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im saying what i was really arguing about was that green list though

timber prism
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Its your mentality of thinking likes and dislikes equal positive or negative

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Its neither

tranquil cove
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on youtube the harm for dislikes was scaled back, but dislike and likes, literally mean negative and positve... the words themselves. plus i've been around on the internet and i've seen how people use these tools maliciously. and also how even comment sections can be problematic, creating propaganda bubbles, and misinformation from bots etc. for example news articles and videos are better off without comment sections.

timber prism
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It doesnt.... its more to agree or disagree

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There is nothing good or bad but people are conditioned to think they are

tranquil cove
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yeah but i don't think a society based on the popularity of who agrees or disagrees is necessarily better.

timber prism
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Why people farm likes

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Are you okay with likes or want get rid of all of it?

tranquil cove
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im indifferent to likes, they don't cause as much harm, if likes were gone it would be fine.

timber prism
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Likes cause just as much harm

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Because people will literally create content and false opinions for likes

tranquil cove
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i dont notice either of them so i think it's fine if they dont exist

timber prism
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There are companies even based around fake profiling and view counts

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To help generate revenue and exposure

tranquil cove
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i cant remember the last time i liked a video, never? or the last time i even looked a videos likes. i think never too.

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i come from tv days, you watch tv no good? change channel

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lol

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imagine if everyone could leave a comment somewhere on the tv they just watched

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like why do we need everyones unfiltered opinions lol, (funny coming from me)

timber prism
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Bc that's the internet lmao

tranquil cove
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everyone is an expert now, or the best critic, and it just makes all this toxic mess and misinformation too, it's nice when it works, but it's not always working great.

timber prism
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Everyone thinks their opinion holds the same value and have the right to have it shared Xd

tranquil cove
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i dont leave youtube comments

timber prism
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Before you just had to suffer through it by seeing said person... in person

tranquil cove
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its weird too, you're leaving a comment into a void usually, of like 5000 to 500,000 other comments.

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chances of anyone reading what you wrote are slim

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i understand steam reviews, because i can have friends who read my reviews or something.

timber prism
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Idk. I tend to leave mostly personal and positive stuff on YT and people respond somewhat regularly with positive comments

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But its usually with music topics since that is my main passion

tranquil cove
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might be different if your a YTuber or have friends on there

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if i like a youtube, i subscribe thats about it

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but i have to really like it

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or keep coming across that channels videos a few times

peak marsh
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Personally I watch YT for a variety of subjects. Music, gaming news, tech news, informational/instuctional vidoes, history, world events, etc. I use likes frequently for when I approve of content and want to see more of it, and I avoid interacting (liking, disliking, commenting) when its something I want to see less of, because that's how the algorithm works

tranquil cove
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I'm against giving people views or money. But also a bit of a hypocrite where I still want to see things. So i end up making sure to adblock everything, even videos i like, and no comment or likes anything. I tend to never sign into youtube. And I also disabled every type of information collecting it does when logged in. But yeah even subscribing bothers me. So I deal with that by rarely logging in. I watch science, gaming, listen to music, construction, health, politics/history etc.

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I directly use youtube by searching for what I want to see. I remember all the channel names.

peak marsh
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Oh I adblock everything, but I give money (super likes) to creators and videos I like because while I don't support the way the platform goes about it, those creators deserve to be paid

tranquil cove
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I don't login etc.

peak marsh
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Not every single one, but I do it frequently enough to say that I do it xD

tranquil cove
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well my contribution is they get my view count. but not ad revenue.

peak marsh
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But the beauty of ad blocking everything is I can decide exactly which vidoes and creators see a profit from my views xD

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I'm never in a sutiation where I'm watching a video then 3/4th of the way through the video they have some wild take or view I don't agree with but too late, they already got the ad revenue xD

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And I mean nothing crazy, here and there I'll throw a $5 super like as a thanks. Still cheaper than premium xD

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There's a channel I watch that does 3 shows a week, and there's a guy who literally every show sends them a $100 super chat. Like, $300 a week and he's been doing it for the last year

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That is crazy

timber prism
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I like to send likes and talk to the content creator who is often a musician

peak marsh
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For me it's less parasocial. I just want to appreciate the work they've done. I've had short conversations here and there but it's less about communication and more about "hey I like that, keep doing it xD"

timber prism
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For me its like. Let's network and book you at a venue

tranquil cove
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im just worried, you support someone and then you see they are in a pdiddy trial. 😆 so i don't really want to support anyone. if i could live off grid i would. but i also feel conflicted because my ideal life, would be off grid, but i could teleport into the city to see friends in 10 seconds. but teleporters aren't invented yet. so it sucks.

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i watch too much of the good place

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where giving your friend flowers results in net negative -100 damage to the world

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and you end up in the good place

frank sonnet
peak marsh
tranquil cove
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living off grid? doesn't need to be a big transition, can be gradual.

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and also you don't know me

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when people are about to die, they can do a lot lol

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as long as you come prepared

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again my issue with the lifestyle isn't the hard work, it's the fact that everything is 1 week away.

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and i want to actually see friends in a way that is convenient and in person.

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i have no problem with people, i just dislike society

peak marsh
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My most supported channel is Retro Game Corps. The channel creator/person is a guy named Russ, retired Navy sailor who lives in Hawaii with his wife and has no wild issues or politics. Just a down to earth guy who talks about handheld consoles.

timber prism
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To never support anyone because of the low chance that they might not be a good human is crazy

tranquil cove
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i don't know them, if i met them and we were friends i would support them

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this is probably why i never been to a concert either

timber prism
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Yeah. That is also crazy to me but I have been about that scene since I was 16 lmao

peak marsh
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Concerts are pretty amaszing experiences xD

timber prism
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Live music is the best thing this world has to offer

peak marsh
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My first concert was when I was 14 xD

tranquil cove
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yeah people say that... but the whole.. like i dont care about musicians, i dont need to see them in person, or meet them, i dont want autographs etc.

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so like i can enjoy their music at home

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going out in a mosh pit crowd, with loud music giving me a headache doesn't really appeal to me

timber prism
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Its not about the person.. its about the emotions that happen from live music which can't be achieved not in person

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But I understand its not for everyone but its sad XD

tranquil cove
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i experienced that once, it was okay

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in my highschools assembly, the whole school was there, and we had a band from the school play a beatles song, and everyone raised up their lighters in the dark and were waving them around. it was nice.

peak marsh
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It's about experiencing an event with an entire group of people who are more or less experiencing the same thing with you. It's an experience that's hard to describe but is one of the ones in life most worth having

timber prism
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Yeah. That is not the same at all

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Xd

tranquil cove
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it's close enough

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about 1000 people

timber prism
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It really isnt

tranquil cove
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listening to music

timber prism
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The sounds system alone

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Is not even close

tranquil cove
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was still live

timber prism
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Yeah uhhhh

peak marsh
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I mean, a high school assemby is kind of a "forced" event, its different when you have 1,000 people who all made a conscious effort to be there xD

tranquil cove
timber prism
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I would take you to your fav bands concert if you lived near me XD

tranquil cove
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you're adding interpretation though

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you said this

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"its about the emotions that happen from live music which can't be achieved not in person"

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and i replied, i experienced that once

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highschool assembly with 1000 people waving lighters to live music qualifies.

timber prism
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Sorry. You are right. I didn't think you would associate the two like that

tranquil cove
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you didn't stipulate like specific details, like concert vs a live event in a club or whatever

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yeah

timber prism
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You stated concert

tranquil cove
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but yeah the highschool one was a forced event

timber prism
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So i assumed you meant an actual concert

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Not your school assembly

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The whole live music was in reference to an actual concert

tranquil cove
timber prism
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Gotcha. You are one of those people

tranquil cove
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it's hard for me to say i really admire a band or musician, and i also like older music, where the musicians are all dead now anyway.

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or they cant perform as good as they used to

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i don't know i'm weird probably, i just dont get very fan like

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i don't really admire people easily

timber prism
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I just saw a 68 perform last May and he was amazing

tranquil cove
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and i dont see the difference between listening to a song from the convenience of my home, vs at a concert, where being an introvert there will be a lot of things i dislike

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just smelling weed, will annoy me

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100% will be at a concert rofl

timber prism
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Im introverted and love them

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  1. sound system
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But you have to be an audio guy to care

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But im not gonna sit here and debate you on why its better. Im just sad for you

tranquil cove
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well no reason to be, i cant even think of anyone id want to see

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or listen to live

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now if you said you could bring back the beatles from the grave and have a concert

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i'd be interested in that

timber prism
tranquil cove
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but only because they are being risen from the dead

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and its once in a life time event in that case

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see my bar is very high lol

timber prism
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Beatles are awesome

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I was a big fan of watching Yellow Submarine

tranquil cove
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see like i cant think of anyone i currently want to listen to in a concert. if you said we can go back in time to any concert

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id take you up on that and go to a bunch

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that would interest me

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because it's also being apart of history in the making

peak marsh
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Coal Chamber as the opener

timber prism
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Siiick

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Misfits are good times

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Mine was Local H and Stone Temple Pilots

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That was actually 14. 16 was my first rave haha

peak marsh
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My favorite was Tool with Saliva and Ozzy Osbourne xD

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(technically Ozzy was the headliner but nah, it was Tool xD)

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Buckcherry was there but meh, it was Buckcherry xD

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Staind was also great live xD

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Mudshovel hits different in front of the amps xD

peak marsh
sweet patrol
timber prism
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it was 2019 haha

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the one time during the show where he said we were allowed to take a picture XD

tranquil cove
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i even encrypted it

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apparently pihole doesn't encrypt it for you

runic basin
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I have a bit of an odd story. I’m not a huge fan of Japanese music (I live in Japan), but there’s one band I love. So imagine my surprise when one of the singers from that band became my student for 3 or 4 years. (I’m an English teacher)

peak marsh
cursive wolf
peak marsh
tranquil cove
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this is becoming a lot of work lol

#

What Pi-hole Doesn't Do Automatically (And You Need to Set Up):

SSH Security:
Pi-hole doesn't set up SSH key-based authentication or change the default user password. You need to manually configure SSH to ensure it's secure. You should disable password authentication for SSH and only allow key-based login.

Firewall Rules:
Pi-hole doesn’t automatically set up a firewall to block all external access, or to limit access to the Pi-hole admin panel. You should configure this yourself using ufw or another firewall.

Operating System Updates:
Pi-hole won’t update your Raspberry Pi OS or install critical security patches for your system. You need to manually update the Raspberry Pi operating system and Pi-hole itself.

Two-Factor Authentication (2FA):
Pi-hole doesn’t natively support two-factor authentication (2FA) for the web interface. You would need to set this up using a reverse proxy and external authentication tools like nginx or traefik if you want 2FA for Pi-hole.

Remote Access Configuration:
If you plan to access Pi-hole remotely, Pi-hole doesn’t automatically set up a VPN or other secure access methods. You would need to configure this manually.

DNS Over HTTPS/TLS (DoH/DoT):
While Pi-hole supports DNS over HTTPS (DoH) or DNS over TLS (DoT), it doesn't automatically set this up. You will need to configure DoH/DoT manually by installing additional software like cloudflared or Stubby for encrypted DNS traffic.

Security Monitoring:
Pi-hole doesn’t monitor your system for unauthorized access attempts, malicious activity, or abnormal behavior. You'll need to set up a monitoring tool (e.g., fail2ban) to detect and respond to malicious activity, like brute force SSH login attempts.

peak marsh
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Yeah it takes some configuring to populate the lists. There are a bunch of pre made and auto updating lists available, just find a good tutorial

peak marsh
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Like, it's not for network security, you probably aren't using DNS over HTTPS, it's not for remote access, and you probably don't need to set it up with 2FA

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You're just using it to block ads and trackers

tranquil cove
#

yeah but it can be hacked

peak marsh
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So can anything xD

tranquil cove
#

yeah but this is more vulnerable than anything else

peak marsh
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The traffic still has to go through your modem/router first, so it's at least as secure as those are

peak marsh
short sail
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At this rate, I feel Rhois is somehow now all of our news feed

timber prism
peak marsh
peak marsh
vague galleon
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after the fiasco around 3 im done with the series.
i loved 2 and tales 1 was good but the series has gone to shit.

peak marsh
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The copper golem especially is interesting. Finally some chest automation that doesn't require an engineering degree xD

peak marsh
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And that's 4 years into the development of Subnautica 2, slated for EA "in 2025"

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If you're keeping score at home

tranquil cove
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who is krafton?

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Unknown Worlds Entertainment is an American video game developer based in San Francisco. The studio is best known for the Natural Selection and Subnautica series. In October 2021, the studio was acquired by South Korean video game developer Krafton.

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I mean sounds like they made a mistake selling out.

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And also subnautica 2 is a mistake

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I was never hyped about it, what can they do differently or deliver, that wasn't already explored in the first 2 games?

peak marsh
# tranquil cove who is krafton?

Krafton Inc. is a South Korean video game publisher and holding company based in Bundang District, Seongnam. It was created in November 2018 to serve as the parent company for Bluehole, founded by Chang Byung-gyu in Seoul in March 2007, and its subsidiaries.

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I mean, there are always things to add, elaborate on, and/or improve with new tech, a new engine, etc

tranquil cove
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it's one thing to make a sequel, when you have an old engine and your first game is a pile of crap strung together over 13 years, like space engineers 1. but it's another thing to keep sequelling a good game already.

tranquil cove
tepid wadi
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Name me one game you think can't be improved or added to

tranquil cove
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subnautica, i dont know what they can add to that franchise except more story. that was my question. what are they doing that is new?

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a new vehicle doesn't cut it

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i'm talking game mechanics new

tepid wadi
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New story, new biomes, new exploration, new world, multiplayer integration

tranquil cove
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im saying engine limitation new

tepid wadi
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There's tons of stuff you could add

tranquil cove
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multiplayer, that's about it.

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make the game coop maybe

tepid wadi
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I'm sure they could add a bunch of new vehicles and mechanics, not just "a new vehicle"

tranquil cove
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everything else doesn't matter, i already got a good game in the first game, i dont feel like im missing 10 biomes.

tepid wadi
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Maybe you don't feel that way, but maybe the dev team had some sick ideas for new areas that they couldn't fit into the first game, that all come with new mechanics and trials

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But they got cut because they didn't fit the story, didn't have time, or whatever

tranquil cove
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maybe maybe a lot of things, i was asking for specifics not maybes, they are saying they are making subnautica 2, they are working on it. so what are they doing that is different to interest their fans?

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it would have been better not to make a sequel still imo

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make a new game, call it something else. this way you're not directly competing within a good franchise already. and your subnautica title is still advertising for you. you dont need to call the game the same thing.

tepid wadi
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We'll see how the community reacts when the sequel comes out, perhaps you'll be proven right. Or maybe they'll nail the sequel and you'll eat your words. We won't know for sure until it releases

tranquil cove
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now if they were for sure adding coop, i'd say that qualifies as something new

tepid wadi
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Co-op is listed on the steam page

tranquil cove
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space engineers 2, huge graphics, voxel editing, building qol improvements, inclusion of water, gameplay systems and loops added.

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NMS sequel could improve a ton on the game, because the game is ancient now - the base building alone could be vastly improved. but even NMS didn't directly sequel, they made a new game.

tepid wadi
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I mean, Light No Fire looks awesome

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Hopefully we get more info about it someday

tranquil cove
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No more room in hell 2, done in unreal 5, siginficant improvement over NMRIH. Not sure i like the game better, but if you did like the game, you could argue they improved and added a ton. but again NMRIH is from 2011.

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fallout 4 is old enough that it could be improved a ton too, the building system in that game is also trash.

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Skyrim same deal

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Subnautica just got a lot right for me. I never found myself saying - i wish i could do this.

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maybe the building system could be expanded/improved. but it would be an improvement from adequate to amazing. vs other games where it's from trash to good.

peak marsh
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Well and I think enough people bought and loved the first Subnautica that it makes sense to give them more, with some new ideas

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I'm betting a lot of players would love another excuse to get into that universe

tranquil cove
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the subzero one

tepid wadi
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TBH I'm looking forward to it JUST for co-op. Playing with friends is substantially more fun than single player survival

vague galleon
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too many single player survival games out there.

tranquil cove
#

there is this game i saw

peak marsh
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I'm a big fan of that developer

tranquil cove
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yeah? i didnt hear of them

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but the game looks interesting/fun

past marsh
tranquil cove
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hopefully getting that with light no fire/space engineers 2

peak marsh
# tranquil cove yeah? i didnt hear of them

Yeah, SloClap's last two games were a souls/martial arts action MMO called Absolver (great game, still running) and a single player martial arts game called Sifu, where every time you "die" you age like 5-10 years, meaning you gradually have more power but less stamina. If you die as an old man it's game over

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And basically you're martial arts-ing your way through various thugs and gangs to find the person who killed your master. There's actually an ending where if you're too old, the person you wanted revenge on already died, meaning you have to try to lose as little as possible for the good ending

peak marsh
#

But yeah they do really inventive stuff. Plus keeping Absolver going even though it's very much a cult game with a small following. Like idk how they're keeping the servers running but I checked a couple months ago and sure enough, still up

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It's actually really, really good with such a small community, it makes player encounters feel really meaningful

tepid wadi
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Yeah absolver is a gem

peak marsh
vague galleon
#

huh?

peak marsh
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9uI7dopC30 -Niche, but a cool design and refreshing to see handheld makers doing something besides bricks and clamshells

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I'd actually be more interested in it for tate mode games since there are very few things that play those properly, unless you have one of those monitors you can spin 90º

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(tate mode refers to older arcade games where the screen was aligned vertically, sometimes using two monitors stacked on top of each other or custom wide screen displays. Think vertical shoot em ups)

peak marsh
vague galleon
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why is stop killing games doomed but cant be stopped

peak marsh
#

Oh. Basically, until recently it was kind of dying off in terms of attention and new signatures, but ever since PirateSoftware did his video talking about it and a lot of other creators responded to it, it's gotten a massive upsurge of support

vague galleon
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oh neat

misty arch
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https://youtu.be/xwi78ZbjIR0?si=g1r2tx7ehceCgWfd

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tepid wadi
#

It's actually getting pretty close, almost 900k signs and a few days ago it was at 600k

peak marsh
tepid wadi
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Yeah, that bump is still meaningful though

peak marsh
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Oh massively, especially when you consider that before all the drama started up the initiative was basically stalling out at around 600k

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And they still have 30 days to go

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Which may sound like a while but the fact it was stalling out with 400k still needed is why people were being so fatalistic about it, at the trend it was going it wasn't even going to come close

tranquil cove
#

why is he obligated to stick around to try and save his team? especially if there is like a 98% chance he would just die too?

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was he a healer or something?

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is there perma death?

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no perma death, then who cares?

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sounds like the dumbest take/controversy to have, how people choose to play is up to them, encourage team play, dont guild kick.

peak marsh
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Honestly I don't get that one either. I watched what happened and the raid lead gave the call to run, which when that happens you ... run. Then some people decided to try to stop and fight and everyone wiped

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He wasn't a healer, he was a DPS

tranquil cove
#

and everyone wiped, and what did they lose their characters?

peak marsh
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Yeah I think it was on HC

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I mean in high level raids like that you don't stop and second guess once the call to run is made. As soon as the lead says run, that's all you do. Frankly Thor was doing what he should have

tranquil cove
#

yeah

peak marsh
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But people love blaming other people with only half the facts

tranquil cove
#

this guy says pirate software didnt own up to the fact that he could have stayed and helped, and said something to the effect of my bad i could have done more there, and doing so in a way that feels authentic...

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so basically calling him inauthentic..

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isn't it authentic to say, yeah i should have run, because i got the call to run

peak marsh
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I mean, the call to run was made by the lead

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All he has to own is the fact that he ran when he was told lol

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Like, if you second guess raid lead orders in high level raids, you don't get invited to high level raids, That's how that works

tranquil cove
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so his mistake is replying at all

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these people dont care about logical write ups that expalain your position if they are calling for you to be cancelled, they just want you cancelled, and will latch onto anything.

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he should ignore 99.9% of every controversy. and never write about it. like mr beast did. lol

peak marsh
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Yeah I mean, again I watched the raid footage and I don't get the massive degree of hate towards Thor. Like he says there the whole thing seemed disorganized and if anything, the tank was more to blame for pulling more mobs after they were already in trouble

tranquil cove
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he is literally being authentic too with his response

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he just doesn't agree with the take that other people have on the situation

peak marsh
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Well I mean, the take they have is that he could have somehow saved the situation, which just isn't the case. The first call to run was the right one

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But also if you're taking something like that to the degree of death threats (both to him and to moderators who weren't even part of it), trying to get someone banned, lying to say he has felonies or that he's hurting animals, like that's unhinged sociopathic behavior

tepid wadi
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I have zero info about that controversy, but yeah that sounds pretty unhinged

peak marsh
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The short version is guy (PirateSoftware, streamer and former Blizzard employee) was streaming a WoW raid, raid went bad, raid leader made the call to run, then some people tried to save it but the streamer kept running, a bunch of people now blame him for not going back to help (mind you this is on hardcore with permadeath)

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Also of note he plays mage, it's not like he was the healer abandoning the team or something

tepid wadi
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Such a weird thing to get super upset about

peak marsh
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Yeah, especially to the degree people have

vague galleon
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gosh, imagine playing hardcore.

tepid wadi
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The only hardcore thing I saw that really resonated was the dude who griefed his raid and got everyone except like 2 people killed

vague galleon
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im not tryhard enough to play hardcore.

tranquil cove
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his guild didnt even kick him

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lol

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jk, but funny

jagged tree
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It's a game that's it nothing more .

peak marsh
vague galleon
#

NOOOOOOOOO

peak marsh
#

Yep. Microsoft just killed a lot of interesting new projects with a single layoff

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All because they can't seem to figure out what they're doing with Xbox

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Like, is it a console? Is it a brand that they license out to other hardware manufacturers like 3D0 tried to do? Is it a platform/storefront? They don't even seem to know anymore

vague galleon
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freaking heck

rapid tartan
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Did someone break their twitch drops?

peak marsh
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That purchase keeps getting better and better. My controller already supported windows, android, and switch, and now it supports switch 2 and steam os xD

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Like, anti cheat makers need to figure out a way to accommodate Linux users or it'll never take off

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And when I say Steam OS, it works on it on the Steam Deck, no idea if that's also the case for other devices or if they did something specific to the Deck to make it work

tepid wadi
peak marsh
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Yep. RIP another MMO before it even launches

tranquil cove
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why is microsoft putting people out of work?

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dont they have billions of dollars

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they aren't hurting right now as far as im aware all the tech companies are doing so great, especially with not paying taxes while profiting off other countries populations.

timber prism
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Microsoft does. Their Xbox brand does not

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They probably realizing how bad the Activision acquisition was

tranquil cove
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maybe they bought it for IP

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and a little bit for the brand awareness even if the brand is negative it's known

timber prism
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I mean. They paid a boat load of money for all of it

tranquil cove
#

what games did activision do?

timber prism
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So they are probably just trying to penny pinch in other areas now

tranquil cove
#

any good titles?

timber prism
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????

tranquil cove
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werent they a game company?

timber prism
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Historically yes. Call of Duty

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Blizzard games like WoW, Diablo

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Candy Crush

tranquil cove
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but it doesn't mean microsoft owns the rights to do call of duty or diablo/wow

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i guess?

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if not then i dont get what the point of buying was

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lol

timber prism
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They do

tranquil cove
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oh well there you go, maybe they can make their money back

timber prism
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They own Activision/Blizzard

tranquil cove
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if they do a good game

timber prism
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Yeah. They print money but its still an investment so it will take time

tranquil cove
#

they bought minecraft and kind of improved it slightly? except for the flying sleep things

timber prism
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It was like a 69 billion purchase?

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Oh totally cost was 75 billion

tranquil cove
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yikes

timber prism
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Anyways. That probably why they are closing some studios and laying off people

tranquil cove
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im playing the new skate update, seems better, but now if you fall off board you instant fail a mission, instead of getting a few seconds to get back on. and you STILL cant skip replays... meaning if i play for 1 hour, about 30 minutes of that might be play time because the rest is loading screens and replays.

timber prism
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Microsoft in general has a lot of money but its heavily invested in AI now I think making weapons

tranquil cove
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i thought they were into bill gates mission for vaccines, or is bill gates not controlling microsoft anymore?

timber prism
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Well military weapon systems

tranquil cove
#

i see

peak marsh
# timber prism Candy Crush

Amusingly, of the four games you mentioned, Candy Crush still makes more than the other three combined twice over xD

peak marsh
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So that's a game from John Romero (though tbf I'd be more interested if it was Carmack), a Zenimax MMO, and a Perfect Dark sequel

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Plus one of the members of leadership at Zenimax left, and a Rare creative dev who has been with the company 35 years also left in the wake

timber prism
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This is why so many companies invest in mobile gaming

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Its super popular on the Eastern side of the world

tepid wadi
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Yeah, there's a reason why it gets so much focus

vague galleon
vague galleon
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WILL THEY BLOODY STOP

timber prism
# vague galleon WILL THEY BLOODY STOP

Seeing how corpo's are investing in nuclear plants... its already over lmao. Its crazy how much power consumption has spiked due to AI already. We are doomed. I'm glad ill be dead.

vague galleon
peak marsh
vague galleon
peak marsh
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I mean they all played their parts at Id back in the day but everyone knows Carmack was more the main designer and Romero was more interested in being a rock star

timber prism
peak marsh
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The issue I have with it is you now have tech companies getting into utilities, and tech companies have already proven to not be that trustworthy

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Both in terms of responsibility and in terms of how they affect the things around them

tranquil cove
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after playing battlefront for awhile i agree it sucks

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and this is after they removed the microtransactions

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still bad design and gameplay, campaign is better, and the campaign sucks.

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i don't like level based games, where the guy killing me is epic good because he unlocked all his cards, and upgraded them all with 3 stacks and has all the weapons.

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the amount of time investment before i can enjoy the game even as a casual player is too much, because it means casually playing at a disadvantage for many months, just to level up 1 class/character, and there are 50 characters.

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i still get a lot of kills and more kills than deaths, but its still playing at a disadvantage, where if i do die, i see the guy has stacked abilities.

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tranquil cove
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like i dont want to outright trash the game

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it's a pretty game, it's still nice, but it's nowhere near as good as it could have been

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so it reminds me of ubisoft

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lol

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plus they could have continued to update it

peak marsh
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Nah it's EA, as soon as they were forced to make it in such a way that they can't siphon money out of players like a mosquito it became not worth their time

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(and I say forced because the prevailing theory is that Disney made them take all the P2W and lootbox stuff out)

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People are confused why the game that was stuck in development hell for over 10 years died? lol

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I'm sad to see it never see the light of day, but can't say I was that surprised when I saw the news

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Lol

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWgTPKX2tzw - if you don't like the Twitch livestream format, to summarize apparently Phil Spencer of Xbox actually was impressed by Blackbird, the MMO project Zenimax was working on as recently as a couple months go during a studio tour. So naturally you lay off a bunch of staff, cancel the project, and "inspire" a Zenimax creative director to leave the company

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So my earlier assertation was correct, this is literally Microsoft with Xbox right now:

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I've been digging more into it, maybe out of morbid curiosity and one thing keeps striking me, like how did they get here? At a point Xbox was a competitive console and as recently as I want to say even a few months ago Gamepass was a winning prospect both as a business approach and for customers, like how did it get so bad so quickly?

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I feel like if a tipping point has to be found, it was right after the Xbone always online "Just buy an Xbox 360" thing. Or maybe more recently when they had the series X/S and decided to go full Sega by supporting 2 consoles at the same time

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Xbox chief Don Mattrick, in response to the backlash over the Xbox One requiring an internet connection, said that "fortunately, we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity, it's called Xbox 360."

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Is what I'm referring to with the Xbone thing

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(Yes it's XB One but I will never stop referring to it as the Xbone xD)

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timber prism
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Not if you read the steam reviews

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its people mad that you can't customize in a hero shooter aside from paying real money

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None of it affects actual gameplay

peak marsh
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I mean I haven't played myself so I can't say for sure (plan to this weekend xD) but for a F2P it wouldn't shock me

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Yeah that's my hope, that it's all just cosmetics in which case, who cares really?

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Like, of course they're going to push the mtx in a free to play, but if they aren't gameplay altering it's whatever

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It is and always has been tasteless to do it immediately after the tutorial but again, it's the price of admission for a F2P

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Like, you're going to get bombed with cash shop offers

timber prism
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Yeah.. of course they want you to see stuff immediately so they can keep servers up

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idk.. im used to gacha games so none of that affects me XD

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like have more self control and just dont spend

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I say this as i just spent 1k in a week on a gacha game BUT

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i voluntarily did it XD

peak marsh
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I mean same, I've played games like Genshin etc (and honstely a whole lot of others, that's just a quick example) so I honestly expect it

timber prism
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but yeah.. like someone gave a bad review because there are certain steam achievements for stuff you have to p2w

peak marsh
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In the case of Force I think it's because he's playing one of these games where he's primarily a paid, single player game kind of guy or an MMO player (but THERES NO NEW MMOS [deep breath])

timber prism
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there are

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Bitcraft Online :v

peak marsh
timber prism
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my friends are all playing and are enjoying it

peak marsh
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I mean that's cool, and I'm glad they came out with something that has that kind of Stardew feeling. It's just not what I'm after

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And tbh I feel like an MMO is something that has been missing from that kind of harvesting genre of games

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You know what disappointed me the most? Kurtzpel

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The start of that game was awesome and the PVE was engaging and fun and they just completely flubbed it

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(the most is probably hyperbole but sufficent to say disappointed me a lot xD)

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It felt like a fighting game with a partner where you had to effectively team up against bosses. Then they screwed the mechanics trying to make it better for pvp, made it better for neither, than said "screw it" and just went full cash shop

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I mean, that was almost entirely getting into random boss fights with rando players and having a blast with the combo mechanics

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I mean it feels like a "you got your chocooate in my peanut butter" situation. People love gathering harvesting games, why not blend that with an MMO social atmosphere?

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Yeah, you'd think it would be a no brainer.

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Its been done in a few places. Runescape, Archeage, Palia

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Probably others too

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A big problem modern MMOs have is the constricting of gameplay cycles into a small pool of function.

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Sort of like:
Combat is the central pillar of the game. Everything funnels into it.
-All your equipment is focused around combat stats
-Crafting exists to create combat gear
-Gathering supports crafting ^
-Exploration is tied to combat power progression
-Quests are tied to combat power progression and mastery
-Social systems exist to support combat engagements that are harder than one player can handle

Everything revolves around combat, so if you are a player who either doesn't love combat at all, or doesn't feel like doing combat stuff today, there's no real place for you in the MMO right now.

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runescape will always have a special place in my heart.

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In todays episode of "What is Microsoft doing with Xbox" xD

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RIP. Anthem is one of those games that just had SO much potential

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Sacrificed on the altar of live service without being designed properly for it

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last I saw we were at a million but there's a 200-400k error margin so we need more yep

tepid wadi
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Yeah, if I was EU based I'd definitely sign.

peak marsh
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So TL;DW is he thinks the game and the gameplay are good but he's disappointed by some of the P2W in the extraction mode (there are three modes: 3v3, 6v6, and extraction). And that said it's less P2W more P2 speed up progress. For example you can buy items that will let you extract the stuff you find to keep it whether or not you survive, or extract anywhere, in addition to buying specific mods and upgrades without relying on RNG to find them

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That said, the player economy is interesting. Basically you can sell items for the cash currency to other players and use that for what you want. Like, someone has to swipe at some point and you have to find things another player would want, but you can actually earn the cash currency without paying

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And that said extraction is split into 3 tiers based on gear score, with the final tier having no gear score cap, so early on you won't really run into a lot of P2W, just in the highest tier where people will be able to basically build a perfect mech and have a bunch of advantage items

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In the 3v3/6v6 modes it doesn't exist, everyone just has a standard loadout and it plays more like a hero shooter

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tepid wadi
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CEOs dont feel shame. If they did, they'd be replaced by other people who would be willing to do the cuts that capitalism requires.

vague galleon
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this country is going to absolute shit left and right.

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not even our games are safe!

peak marsh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=222nK7LJ99g -At least there's some positive news happening

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stable laurel
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Anyone have a cheap fun game reccomendation

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/200710/Torchlight_II?snr=1_25_4__318

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The award-winning Action RPG is back, bigger and better than ever! Torchlight II is filled to the brim with randomized levels, enemies and loot. Capturing all the flavor and excitement of the original, Torchlight II expands the world and adds features players wanted most, including online and LAN multiplayer. Once again, the fate of the world i…

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On the summer sale for $3.99

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peak marsh
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ARPG. Kill monsters, get loot, kill bigger monsters

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@vague galleon Could explain better

vague galleon
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no, you got it right.

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great graphics, it's my favorite ARPG ever.

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there's not much in the way of "end game" content BUT it does have a huge modding scene.

stable laurel
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Whats arpg?

vague galleon
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action

stable laurel
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Ahh okay

vague galleon
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like diablo

stable laurel
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Mines shadow of war

vague galleon
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you run around, fight stuff, barely any story.

stable laurel
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Looks funny

vague galleon
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i guess? it's really good.

stable laurel
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1 or 2?

vague galleon
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I would only suggest TL1 and TL2

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TL3 was.... a let down, despite doing some good stuff, but there's history there. >_>
it wasnt made by Runic Games.

stable laurel
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Ahh okay

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Do u prefer one or 2

vague galleon
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2 for sure, but 1 is still solid.

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1 is singleplayer only, a very unfortunate descision.

stable laurel
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Ahh okay

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I need 50 cents extra

vague galleon
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it's the only game ive actually maxed out characters in, persay.

stable laurel
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Can only add 5 euro

vague galleon
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oof.

stable laurel
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😭

peak marsh
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2 has a bit more going on, especially with modding since it's multiplayer

stable laurel
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I will probaly buy a key