other-games

[tranquil cove]

so again the ddos probably played into that decision not to lean into multiplayer

multiplayer seemed chaotic and volatile

[peak marsh]

Like, back when I was playing our main ship was the Pyramideon because the pilot liked to play aggressively and ram other ships and the pyra was great for that, and it was a really common and popular strategy. So after a couple tournaments when they saw pyra ramming was a popular tactic, they nerfed it to the point it felt like you were driving a tissue box around

Same with gattling greased rounds, they wanted long range play but they nerfed the greased rounds to half distance because people "weren't using other ammo types enough", things like that

[tranquil cove]

i forget did the game have rockets?

[peak marsh]

They wanted to eliminate metas but instead of making other things competitive they just made good things suck

[tranquil cove]

they should have added rockets

[peak marsh]

Yeah, they had 2 types of rockets

[tranquil cove]

i think you dont nerf the gatling, i think instead you introduce a new long range defense mechanic

that is skill based

but yeah i see your point

[peak marsh]

That's the frustrating thing though. They still wanted long range bombardment play, they just wanted people to use other ammo types but did it by making the long range option useless

[tranquil cove]

i still think most people quit the game for 1 reason

the reason being it wasnt 4k population, it was 400-800

thats why i quit, couldnt find games, that and the gameplay got old

they needed updates

[peak marsh]

I mean that's part of it. Our crew of 16 people total quit because they were patching out everything we liked to do, and we tried to adapt but the other options just weren't fun or good comparatively

And I mean, we had like 8 different main ship/weapon load out combos we liked, and they systematically made every single one suck

[timber prism]

Sounds like very inexperienced devs on the balancing front

Which is never good for pvp

[peak marsh]

There was an overwhelming feeling that outside of certain "liked" groups, they ignored the broader community and only made changes those people were asking for, along with what they felt the game should be

Which doesn't work in a primarily multiplayer competitive game like that because if the broader player base feels punished for having fun, they leave

[tranquil cove]

so i either quit before they did all of this, which means the game was 400 pop already

or i didn't care

which means you guys taking it too seriously.

[peak marsh]

Case in point, if what our crew did was so OP, why did we only ever come in second and lose to a crew playing more the way the "devs envisioned", prior to the balancing

[tranquil cove]

it was still fun when i quit basically, if you found a change so bad you quit, it means you didn't find it fun like i did, and therefore taking it too seriously.

[peak marsh]

We were specificlly a competition crew playing in official tournaments, of course we were taking it seriously to a degree xD

[tranquil cove]

just call yourselves what it is

try hards

lol

[peak marsh]

I mean, I had fun jumping on pubs and screwing around but we were trying to win tournaments xD

[tranquil cove]

metas shouldnt exist in games anyway

from another players perspective they are probably glad things were nerfed.

your perspective only highlights you like easy ways to win

[peak marsh]

You're ignoring the fact that I said we had 8 different ship/load out combinations. What we had fun with was also one of the most effective

[tranquil cove]

now im not saying reducing gatling range isn't the lazy solution, but probably the longer term solution would require 6 months of working it out and dev work to make a new defense mechanic.

[peak marsh]

I mean for random pubs we would use weird and silly setups but if we're playing in a tournament of course we're using whats good, effective, and fun for us. WDYM? xD

[tranquil cove]

yeah and if everyone else used what you did

who won?

usually the ship who got into position first

[peak marsh]

Plenty did. We won a lot because we were good at it xD

But we also lost to teams playing "non-meta"

[tranquil cove]

the game needed more environment damage

[peak marsh]

It has a lot more to do with the skill and communication of the crew

[tranquil cove]

environment damage whould have ensured people still play today with 4k servers

because what was lacking wasnt guns and nerfs dont really matter

what was lacking was movement freedom

you could do a lot to get away from an attacker, but if they were good, they would always be on your tail shooting you unless a third ship intervened.

with environment damage, you could fly under a ridge, shoot the ridge out, and have it collapse on them.

or fly near other hostile environment things

to lose your stalker

they could have added fire geysers

that have random timing

or storms, i think they had a sand storm? i cant remember

they could have designed air balloons of different sizes

and then add nooks and crany canyons, that only small air ships can fit through.

[peak marsh]

Yeah the dune map had storms that would sometimes reduce visibility

Or there were clouds you could hide in if you weren't targeted

[tranquil cove]

yeah they needed to do more environment stuff like i said, but probably their engine limited them anyway, so the game was doomed to never really hit that mark that sustained population, unless they made guns of icarus 2 with this in mind from the start

evasion/dodging/hiding from the enemy had to be expanded

thats how you improve skill ceiling

in all games skill starts from movement, not aim

[peak marsh]

I mean dropping a bunch of heavy handed nerfs then dropping balancing to add a pve mode only a handful of players wanted was a big part of it. Also adding 2 ships that weren't that great and never revisiting them, not working on new maps, list goes on

I mean between moonshine/drop chutes etc movement wasn't a huge issue, it was all in how the pilot and engineers handled using them/the damage they caused

Like burning moonshine would make your ship faster horizontally but also damage your engines, so there was strategy in using it and making sure the engies could keep up with it

[tranquil cove]

yeah i remember

[peak marsh]

Same with helium/drop chutes for vertical/balloon

[tranquil cove]

but still, there were pilots and techniques for staying on someones ass

having more map elements to run/hide would have been good, especially when out numbered.

especially if the map elements were interactable with

i played in every role, captain, guns, engineer

but i loved flying, evading etc. i was good at it

i was pretty much equally good at everything, aiming as well

[timber prism]

Imagine entering tourneys not trying to be serious about winning XD

I hope Wildgate devs are able to pull that game off but just between balance changes between the first test and second... its not looking good

The first test was super entertaining

[tepid wadi]

I definitely enjoyed it, though there are some balance things that feel pretty off. The character that can melee your ship and break windows and modules and stuff feels pretty busted.

[tranquil cove]

you can be serious about winning, but still not rage quit a game because something was nerfed.

when you're good you win regardless

you find another way to win, you enjoy the game regardless of balance of changes. unless the game became unplayable due to changes.

reducing gatling range doesn't sound like an unplayable change to me.

i just find it funny and disingenuous when people quit a game over balance changes. they aren't really fans of the game, it sounds like they are fans of winning the only way they knew how.

and in most cases balance changes are a process that happens over months, it's not going to be the final form.

people did the same crap with hell divers

none of the nerfs in hell divers bothered me in the slightest, when they undid the nerfs, i didn't care either.

and my gameplay was unaffected, the game was easy either way

the magnitudes of fun didn't decrease or increase based on the nerf, because 100% of my fun doesn't come from how much damage a rocket does

if it did that would make me borderline demented.

they nerfed things in enshrouded too, i still prefer the previous damage of acid and the fact that you used to have faster mana regen, but i didn't rage quit the game, post a negative review, or whatever. it just takes a little bit of extra work to kill things now. and again 100% of my fun didn't come from mage acid or mana regen.

if icarus was doing these nerfs, but also pushing out content, in my view nobody should have quit even if the nerfs were not preferenced. but i think because icarus was also failing to push content, it was a double whammy.

plus if you quit the game the nerfs stay in forever, if you stay and advocate for change you might get a rebalance that favors the gameplay you want. "from nothing comes nothing" - Parmenides. quitting and disappearing, earns you nothing except no game at all.

[timber prism]

This is a lot of words that has nothing to do with what I was commenting on... but yeah. You can totally stop supporting a game when devs clearly show their inability time and time again to nerf things properly and it isn't rage quitting. In competitive gaming, its important to not heavy hand nerf things

I didn't play Guns of Icarus so I can't comment on whether or not the devs intentions was to make the game for sports

So if it was all supposed to be casual fun then its whatever

[tranquil cove]

the dev doesn't always have to cater to the playerbase, since the playerbase is selfish or narrow sighted and might not always understand the game vision or see the whole picture.

personally, i wouldnt care about losing some stubborn players stuck on one system, if i was bringing players in with content to offset their loss. as long as you push good content, explain your changes and how these changes align with a long term vision - ie a future set of updates then i think the game dev deserves some freedom to implement the changes they want.

but you can't go to the extreme with that either

[timber prism]

From what was posted.. it clearly seems the game failed to bring people in with changes

[tranquil cove]

it was casual play, blended with serious people who i'm assuming joined some ladder or league? but most people played casual. and you could make guilds.

[peak marsh]

Youre right, the devs don't have to cater to the player base. The player base also doesn't have to play xD

There's a middle ground they never reached

[timber prism]

DDOSing can't be blamed for lost numbers

Every popular game has been DDOS'd

[tranquil cove]

didn't new world have server issues that impacted their numbers? or you think that doesnt matter? and hell divers for that matter.

tech issues, server capacity issues, and ddos

[peak marsh]

New world was too much of a circus to say it was server issues xD

[tranquil cove]

they all roll into the same basket

i dont think it affected the numbers of hell divers i guess

since hell divers is doing well today

[timber prism]

People complained about HD2 server issues killing the game and it was literally just complainers bc after it was all and done the numbers still skyrocketed

[tranquil cove]

but hell divers was insanely more popular than icarus

[timber prism]

It was literally just doomposting bc "i can't play right now"

There was that one troll in here that did it daily and said they refunded multiple times

They really wanted HD2 to fail for some reason or another lmao

[tranquil cove]

i just want a custom armor system

i dont really like their design

[peak marsh]

Some people just want to watch a train wreck happen

[tranquil cove]

would prefer if i could change colours, and even add the attributes i want to armor

they could design a beautiful system that was balanced to this effect

no idea why they don't. i dont get why game companies dont do no brainer ideas.

they afraid its too big of a change nobody would like i guess

[timber prism]

My guess is they dont because they want people to do their battle passes to get armor with those stats

[tranquil cove]

they could have made it so you unlock dyes/colours, textures, for your armor, and made it so certain armor attributes dont combine, so nothing is overpowered etc. it's not that complex for them to do. they could even keep everything else the same, so you still get sets, that start with certain colors, and 1 attribute like - throw 2 extra grenades, but then you can change the colours and add 1 more attribute.

they are doing textures for the mechs

but yeah i dunno, needs more freedom/customization on the armor side

[native topaz]

türk var mıı

[timber prism]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2993780/FANTASY_LIFE_i_The_Girl_Who_Steals_Time/

Steam

FANTASY LIFE i: The Girl Who Steals Time

Step into this Slow-Life RPG where you can freely switch between 14 unique jobs, so called "Lives," and enjoy a carefree life in a fantasy world.

Fish, cook, shape the island to your liking, or team up with friends to battle monsters across the vast world.It's up to you to choose what kind of Life you'll live!…

Price

$59.99

Recommendations

3094

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For the Animal Crossing / Zelda fans

[peak marsh]

So what, isekai simulator?

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/3hDQNtPceEQ?si=sKywTwu-F-XzzeXS

[timber prism]

Pretty much life(class) swapping Animal crossing

But link awakening style combat and coop mission

Very similar to AC where you invite people to your island or host missions. Its not people sharing one island

[peak marsh]

@tepid wadi need a cleanup for someone who missed the #self-promo channel xD

But also, Star Citizen xD

[tepid wadi]

Tsk tsk. Self promo channel exists for a reason.

[timber prism]

Gonna pick it up tonight!

[tepid wadi]

I loved the roguelike card game they did of the same name. Interested in the skyrim version for sure

[timber prism]

https://bsky.app/profile/rj.dcellgames.com/post/3lpttvi3o7224

rj (@rj.dcellgames.com)

happy world turtle day

now that the game has been out for 24 hours i can reveal that the topline melody of the bridge on the end credits theme for TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES: TACTICAL TAKEDOWN was made by drawing raph in midi

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[peak marsh]

Stuff like that is awesome

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnvC4u4xnHM

tl;dw: Nothing new in terms of the situation, just some actual quotes from former devs giving more insight into the situation

[peak marsh]

https://www.theverge.com/news/673938/gabe-newell-valve-founder-brain-computer-interface-first-chip-starfish

Just in time for the Steam OS release. Now you can just get Steam in your brain

[frank sonnet]

now your brain can run doom

[frank sonnet]

So marathon has a discord server

[peak marsh]

Probably mostly for people who want to meme about it

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOa2I_v_lds

Chrono Odyssey

[tepid wadi]

🤞

I'd love a MMO to be super successful to spark a new wave of them.

[peak marsh]

Same, this one looks pretty good

My only big concern is with Kakao and how they monetize

I guess they're doing a closed beta in June so we aren't too far from finding out

Though I'm happy to hear the game's main focus will supposedly be exploration, the leveling experience, and coop

[vague galleon]

im still waiting for an MMO to give me what I want, but I dont think that can exist to be fair.

[night current]

The only MMO I actually invested time and money into was Trove but I lost interest when they were bought by that one MMO-killing company that put profit before players and made it so the only way to do anything without paying for it is to grind for ungodly amounts of time just to get anything done

[fluid cedar]

for a very long time it was GUILD WARS (1 & 2) for me. even met people irl, still friends to this day

[vague galleon]

nice

never got to plays those.

i played runescape back in the early 2000s. was one of the best games I had to play at the time.

[timber prism]

Yes. Take away the MM from MMO

😂

https://youtu.be/1lAc0wqXLvw

dev interview for anyone who is interested

[thin grove]

I've hit a strange milestone in my agedness where few games hold my attention. I'm having to rediscover what my tastes are

I almost went back to Skyrim again but Enshrouded has delayed the inevitable quite effectively

[timber prism]

I have hit this milestone many times XD

welcome to the club \o/

Im really enjoying this comfy animal crossing zelda game

[vague galleon]

ya, old final fantasy games just wont hold my attention anymore.

i really should just look up some story focused playthroughs and call it a day for a lot of them.

[peak marsh]

Yeah, Gamigo is notorious for over monetizing and then killing MMOs

[fluid cedar]

so is most ANY game from EA

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0OjNhJ-lPE

Hour long video, but it's a pretty hilarious breakdown of how Bethesda sucks at storywriting xD

Good Sunday afternoon watch

[vague galleon]

story is as, UI and gameplay are decent.

it's fine if you just like to loot and shoot.

also i love having all sorts of settlements to build up. although some are way too small.

good game, awful story.

[peak marsh]

That's a lot of what he dives into, and why Fallout 3, 4, and 76 suck

At least from a story perspective

Basically at the end he concludes that the 'real' Fallout games are 1, 2, and NV

But also he talks about how some elements of the game and story seem like they were actually tacked on and changed haphazardly and there's the core of an actual compelling story in there

[vague galleon]

there's one perfect example of the issue with fallout 4 I think, and it's the robot derby.

you come across it, hear the announcer, and from a distance it sounds like a cool place with interesting NPCs, maybe you can even bet on the robots!

nope, just more enemies to kill!

[peak marsh]

xD He actually points one of those out

The fighting arena

[vague galleon]

there was a moment in that new wolfenstien when you're sneaking around and you hear an officer on the phone, terrified of his superior, worried about his family, a human moment from someone from an evil evil army, a reminder of the gray areas, but the momeny he spots you theres no hesitation, there's no interaction, just instant "raarg die player character!" same for the check in guy for the moon base.
just a blip and it's back to shoot everything that movies.

[peak marsh]

Yeah that's a lot of what he calls out with Fallout 4. Everything is basically just a reskin of a raider

And no depth or interesting player choices or dilemmas, just a big sandbox to shoot your way through

[vague galleon]

oh man, dont get me started on the gunners

should have been a neutral party but nope, just better armed raiders

AND THE NPCS WILL NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT THEM

ya, the only good parts of fallout 4 is the quality of life upgrades over new vegas (went back to new vegas and man inventory management is AWFUL)
and the weapon customization and base building.

also the pipe weapons are utterly pointless, before i even leave the vault I already have better weapons.

[peak marsh]

You should check out that video when you have time, sounds like you're going to agree with a lot of it

[vague galleon]

lol probably.

I'll throw it in a background tab.

right now i got a chateau rebuild going on my second monitor next to discord

[peak marsh]

It's been a while since I last played NMS

[vague galleon]

same. i keep saying ill go back one day, but flight controls are hard to relearn.

[tepid wadi]

I love the concept of NMS, but even with all the added content, I find that I "see the seams" in the procedural generation after a while and it gets boring. That said, I'm super stoked for Light No Fire

Every update they do to NMS, you can tell they're making big engine upgrades for LNF and it makes me more hyped.

[peak marsh]

Same, given history I'm taking a wait and see approach to LNF but they've definitely got a strong foundation to work from. I feel like the proc gen will be less intrusive on a single world vs generating infinite ones

Because yeah, by the time you've hit your 5th or 6th solar system you start really seeing the patterns

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, my friends and I have often talked about the concept of taking the power of the universe generation from NMS and using it to generate a single interesting planet.

I'm so glad they're doing it

[vague galleon]

is LNF like, a medieval game or something?

but ya, planets got dull fast and I played a good chunk of the game before most of the new content came out and now i have enshrouded soooo

[peak marsh]

Kind of. Think NMS, but in a fantasy instead of sci fi setting and on one massive planet and online instead of instanced

Like, scale wise I think they want the size of the planet to literally be Earth sized

[vague galleon]

wild.

well at long as it isnt massively empty like all the planets.

[frank sonnet]

i want to try NMS in vr

[tepid wadi]

I've heard NMS in VR is one of the better VR experiences

[tranquil cove]

nms is a good game

[tranquil cove]

if you last it played it over 2 years ago or more? then you might be surprised if you play it now.

they added massive content and improvements, and even recently improved planets

the only thing still kind of lackluster is the base building system

you can probably still recognize the patterns in the generation, but it's still so much better, i would argue it was wierder to some extent in the early days but also more barren sometimes.

early days being 2015 or whatever

finding earth like planets is probably one of the best things too

though its difficult, i've done like 200 jumps and only found like 10, and only 1 of those was truly earth like

and only 1 had water

[frank sonnet]

imo i like the base building. unlike games like enshrouded or ark the building system isn't obtuse and a relatively basic base actually looks good instead of being a ugly crap shack

[tranquil cove]

its dated needs a lot of work, and hard to get something looking good

its basically fallout 4 level building

wire system, power system, dated

snap issues, texture issues, lighting issues

storage issues too

i'm not saying its terrible, just that they updated literally everything else in NMS, they could revisit building and improve a lot.

[tranquil cove]

like not opinion based, i could show you screenshots of all of this

well documented

ive also made pretty bases, but it's also taken me like 10 extra hours of learning how to do it than it would have in a more qol building system

especially because i'm picky

so ill struggle with any little tiny thing that i dont like how it looks for like 1 hour

plus ive never really been a fan of free placement games

having to free placement lighting, on ceiling or walls? and no snap feature for furniture or other things.. the tedium...

the built in lighting in walls having zero effect on lighting your base

in the prefabs its good, but the wood walls come with some built in lighting too that doesn't seem to work

snapping stairs being a disaster sometimes too

cargo containers free placement, no snap

they actually snap incorrectly.

like someone in the dev department? coding? has to go into the game and fix it, they dont align properly

i have screenshots of their snap being broken

its just a long long long list of troubles in the building system

[vague galleon]

one of the things i hate the most about NMS is the ladders.

[torpid briar]

Anyone playing Tainted Grail and have issues with it? My game worked fine until today; started crashing whenever going to the Keep.

[timber prism]

I played a hour last night with no issues @torpid briar

[torpid briar]

That's good. I have 11 hours and today it started crashing when trying to go into the keep. Going anywhere else seems ok. I'm still at Act 1 though.

[timber prism]

That sucks. I didn't really like the game so Uninstalled and gonna get a refund

[torpid briar]

That's fair.

[peak marsh]

I've heard it didn't quite live up to expectations

[torpid briar]

Well, I didn't have much expectations, but it needs fixes badly.

[vague galleon]

nothing can compare to elder scrolls!

[frank sonnet]

so I've been thinking have graphics actually gotten better over the past ten years?

[vague galleon]

eh

a little bit

[tepid wadi]

I've heard pretty good things about tainted grail, actually. I haven't fired it up, but I own it because I bought the roguelike they made forever ago

[vague galleon]

seems popular. ill pass on it.

[timber prism]

I think so. Games like Alan Wake 2, Space Marine 2, FF7 Rebirth all look better than prior games in the series

[tepid wadi]

It's like... Elder Scrolls but Arthurian lore. Probably doesn't meet the same bar as ES games, but since ES6 is slated to come out in 2143, it's probably a good time.

[vague galleon]

its not arthurian lore.
its grimdark what if a bunch of awful stuff happened in arthurian lore.

[tepid wadi]

Same difference to me, I guess. Grimdark <lore> is still <lore>

[peak marsh]

That's why they keep re-releasing the same ones

[frank sonnet]

I'm going to pass on tainted grail because tbh i hate the idea of evil King Arthur its the same reason i was turned off by sworn

[tepid wadi]

My understanding is that king arthur is still a good guy, but things have gone to shit because he died a long time ago, and you're a vessel for his spirit trying to fix things.

[timber prism]

Its not a bad game but for me it was just kinda boring and the combat didn't do anything for me. You have an active dodge and I could just walk forward charge attack, dodge backwards and repeat .. on ever single mob I fought in that hour I played.

[tepid wadi]

Yeah that's fair

[timber prism]

I'm playing Tinkerlands with a friend and that is much more enjoyable

It feels like a cross of core keeper + terraria but with mapping

[tepid wadi]

I've been playing a lot of deadlock while I wait for Dune to come out. Been feeling dry on survival games lately, and haven't been quite ready for another Enshrouded playthrough yet.

[torpid briar]

There was update for Tainted Grail and I can walk into the Keep again without crashing!

[frank sonnet]

speaking of dune

[tranquil cove]

poly bridge so annoying

i always hit the next button by accident

instead of replay

and it doesnt save what you did

so you need to build the crap all over again

they needed better ui

[frank sonnet]

good lord the roamer is a tank

[misty arch]

EA date announced
https://youtu.be/52u8LIuzA-Y?si=_39fWt4-KUNu5N2h

[fluid cedar]

but. it is they who shall not be named (EA)

[timber prism]

https://youtu.be/OKFRLoApMoY?si=dIQk4cwJKG0AaZrR

[peak marsh]

GTA_CJ_HereWeGoAgain.gif

[untold yarrow]

dam

[frank sonnet]

I think I botched my opportunity at obtaining a freighter in no man’s sky

[round beacon]

wdym?

[frank sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dammit-damn-damn-it-ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-gif-19792726

[round beacon]

can always get another

[frank sonnet]

Well after I took care of the pirates the captain gave me the planet in distress mission and I existed out of my game shortly after while it’s true their will be other opportunities it’s still frustrating

[round beacon]

eh, at the end you be huntin for S rank Freighter anyway^^

[peak marsh]

https://variety.com/2025/gaming/news/black-panther-video-game-canceled-electronic-arts-layoffs-1236412168/ -Meanwhile, the Electronic Arts sausage grinder churns ever onward

[wraith knoll]

Who else is excited for Nightreign

[timber prism]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/tiny-tinas-wonderlands

Free to claim till June 5th

Might actually try it now

[vague galleon]

its okay.

[peak marsh]

I've heard it's good but IDK how much I trust Gearbox after their latest TOS

[vague galleon]

ya its alright. one of the 3 good BL games.

although its a reminder that tina is only entertaining in small doses.

[hollow barn]

Tina wasn't the worst character in the game tbh

[vague galleon]

no. i liked her.

im just saying that listening to her for an entire game is a bit much.

id rate her mid tier. she was fine. not a favorite or hated.

[hollow barn]

Out of the 3 main character she probably was the best

[vague galleon]

Torque I liked. Torque was always funny.

Tina was a main character?

oh you mean in the tina game.

i mean compared to those other two, ya.

[hollow barn]

I mean it isn't hard to be better then those two

[vague galleon]

yaaaaa

i was just saying i prefered her amount of screen time in bl2

[hollow barn]

The game obviously isn't even close to bl2

[vague galleon]

BL2 was a masterpiece. 9/10

tales one was good too.

[peak marsh]

Yeah, for me Tina is one of those characters that's great in limited doses. I could see it being a little much for an entire game's runtime

Like in BL2 she was great when she was being hyperactive and irreverant around a bunch of more "serious" characters

[timber prism]

Her dlc was my fav but I also feel like she is only good in small doses... which is why I never played this game

Also bc 3 was absolutely awful so I stopped caring about their games

Will probably try BL4 once it's free

[vague galleon]

I would recommend BL2 and Tales from the Borderlands 1.

other than that, nah.

[peak marsh]

Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen kind of has my interest, but recent reviews are mixed and I'm skeptical about an in-development MMORPG that's looking backward instead of forward

Like, maybe if they smooth the experience and iterate on it but as is it just seems like a prettier, less complete version of EQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMU8kemUn8U

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrBnMv8bOhI - Note: This isn't "games guaranteed to come out" but current notable active MMO projects with a sprinkling of rumors and tweets mixed in. Just a snapshot of where the genre is currently at

[peak marsh]

The most shocking thing from that video is that apparently Camelot Unchained is still being worked on somehow xD

[frank sonnet]

Got one

[honest whale]

Nice!

[sweet patrol]

@limber barn Had a quick question about fountain of youth. At what point in the game did you decide to actually build a base thats more than a simple shelter?

[limber barn]

Fairly early on, when I reached the small harbor on the Island of Hope if I recall I was looking for the spyglass the captain left behind per the quest.

[sweet patrol]

ok was just curious got back into it and just got to the second set of islands. wasnt sure If I should settle down at this point and start building my equiptment and armor up

[limber barn]

Honestly the only two islands I found any good for a base are Hope and Copper. The other islands are just too stormy and or dark all the time and some of them like crocodile and sulfur island the environment just sucks. My first largest and main base is on Hope, all around it's the best place to build and probably the most prime spot is the southern corner of the inlet to the harbor a lot of open and pretty level ground, room to expand and plenty of shoreline to add docks and there's a fishing spot right there. When you can survive the heat Copper is a really good spot the best place I've found there is on the southern shore there are several palm trees and very level ground to build on

[sweet patrol]

Awesome thanks! I think I will head back to hope and build there. Apparently I missed alot of stuff there since I left there before EA was done

[tranquil cove]

are you trying to get zerax obsessed and unable to stop typing about this for 1 week

congrats on helper, what would you say you help with? is it channel specific?

[peak marsh]

xD I've personally been an MMO gamer since 97/98, I respect Zerax's opinions on the genre xD

[peak marsh]

Nothing particular, it's just Keen saying I've been around for a while and might know a thing or two about Enshrouded xD

[tranquil cove]

nice

[tranquil cove]

how many hours do you have in the game now?

[peak marsh]

400-ish

[tranquil cove]

ahh not bad

im only 160

[peak marsh]

Which isn;t a lot in terms of hours, but I've been playing since literal launch day and been on the discord since before that xD

[tranquil cove]

ive been waiting for full release to get back into it

[tranquil cove]

imo its good enough for helper

400 is more than one would think, i mean provided you didnt afk whole time

[peak marsh]

Nah. I'll admit some of it was afk waiting for crop plants to finish but the vast majority was playing hours

[tranquil cove]

in 160 hours i have 3 chars maxed out, and basically 2 playthroughs, though some of these playthroughs without the latest game updates

[peak marsh]

Mine were one character

[tranquil cove]

yeah my group hasnt started again, so if they never start, ill have to find a new group or just play solo once the game is in 1.0

[peak marsh]

I can't speak much to magic or pure melee, but I have thoughts on bow/daggers xD

[tranquil cove]

my two chars are mages, and 1 is bow

no melee yet

[peak marsh]

Daggers are my favorite. They're so fun and so much more dynamic than any other melee style currently available xD

Great at parry, great for making use of merciless/stun, and they have a varied move set

[limber barn]

I just like a big friggin hammer to smash things

No style, no finesse no dancing around, just smash and laugh

[peak marsh]

I like the finesse and dancing around. It makes me feel like a classy gentlemen xD

As I stab them in the face xD

And is this not the look of a classy gentlemen xD

[tepid wadi]

I have approximate knowledge of many things

[peak marsh]

That's an opinion I can respect because it's one that I share xD

[vague galleon]

i wish timesplitters and resistance were on PC.... stupid sony.

[peak marsh]

Not stupid because srsly, why aren't they

[limber barn]

stoopid stoopid Sony

stoopid

[peak marsh]

Also Bloodbourne remake when

[vague galleon]

sony is stupid cause they wont let me. if they're the reason.

man i just want more old console FPSes on PC....

[frank sonnet]

tbh fpses never belonged on consoles

[vague galleon]

so true

SO TRUE

[timber prism]

????

[vague galleon]

i REALLY want to play resistance fall of man but i am NOT spending cash on a PS3

[timber prism]

Halo to this day is still great on console

[vague galleon]

wish i bought it back when I lived with my bro

halo is better on PC.

[timber prism]

Goldeneye

Perfect Dark

[vague galleon]

n64 controller sucks

[timber prism]

sounds like user error

[vague galleon]

noooooooo XD

[timber prism]

XD

[vague galleon]

worst controller ever

[timber prism]

i love that controller

[vague galleon]

you're a masochist

[timber prism]

its so nostalgically great

[vague galleon]

no way

i'd rather use the sharpass NES controller

[timber prism]

Mario Party palm is real

so yes, i am a masochist

[frank sonnet]

fps games were designed for mouse and keyboard

[timber prism]

ummmm

agree to disagree

its for both

[vague galleon]

mouse aiming is vastly superior to joystick

[timber prism]

okay?

[vague galleon]

like 100 - 1

[timber prism]

i bet you would lose to a controller pro

XD

using your mouse and keyboard

[vague galleon]

nah

i am like, so good.

[timber prism]

oh okay

[vague galleon]

ya.

[timber prism]

sick

but yeah, i prefer keeb and mouse as well

but Halo plays great with a controller

and there are many good console fps games

[vague galleon]

and they'd be better on PC

[timber prism]

not really

theres a reason why esports Halo players use controllers

[timber prism]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2592160/Dispatch/

Steam

Dispatch

From the writers & directors of Tales from the Borderlands and The Wolf Among Us,
Dispatch is a superhero workplace comedy set in modern day Los Angeles.

You play as Robert Robertson, AKA Mecha Man, whose mech-suit is destroyed in a battle against his nemesis, forcing him to take a job at a superhero dispatch center: not as a hero, but a d…

Release Date

2025

▶ Play video

Demo available on steam!

[peak marsh]

I'd totally watch a Netflix show with that premise xD

[vague galleon]

same people or same company?

[vague galleon]

why netflix? why not a company that wont cancel it after 1-2 seasons?

if only netflix had been smarter with their shows and released them one episode a week TO STIR UP CHATTER ABOUT THEIR SHOWS.

[peak marsh]

Yeah xD I was just using Netflix as a general easy example

[vague galleon]

but ya, it does look entertaining.

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRnXFdFe_WI

[vague galleon]

why does he look so scared? what does he see?

[peak marsh]

He saw that video where they talked about Camelot Unchained still being in development xD

[tranquil cove]

you play a game where you pee in a toilet?

is that game voiced by george clooney

what the hell

reminds me of these games a little bit

i was close

it's Jeffrey Wright and Aaron Paul

https://www.ign.com/articles/dispatch-is-a-star-studded-new-game-with-aaron-paul-jeffrey-wright-laura-bailey-and-more-the-game-awards-2024

[peak marsh]

Definitely. Duke Nukem 3D xD

[tranquil cove]

sims also

[timber prism]

Most recently.. Inzoi

[round beacon]

I saw you got ur hands on ur first freighter - already on the hunt for a pirate one?^^

[frank sonnet]

i did fight a pirate dreadnought although i failed at taking it out down regardless I'm going to be giving my ship more fire power so the next one isn't so lucky

[tranquil cove]

you can find a system that always spawns them

[round beacon]

yeh, good luck for that.
if you want a tip in the future how to disable these guys to take em over, lemme know^^

[tranquil cove]

thats what i did, then i grinded for 5 hours to get an S class

lol

[round beacon]

jeah... first one took me about the same time. on the second charakter it was actualy the third one xD

[tranquil cove]

nice

i been grinding forever trying to find earth like worlds with water

very hard to find for me

can only find them without water

[round beacon]

realy? mh. weird. i found it pretty easy tbh. although larger ocean earth likes are a bit more rare yeah

[tranquil cove]

yeah i was even in the second system with more spawn

[frank sonnet]

i've also found finding water covered worlds pretty easily too

[tranquil cove]

thats what people tell me

[round beacon]

Green system?

[tranquil cove]

in the nms discord too

yeah

green system

[round beacon]

hm, guess you are just realy unlucky then^^

[tranquil cove]

yeah

[frank sonnet]

i found a lava planet with a ocean

[round beacon]

im honestly more about the exotics (like that for example) because literaly everyone builds bases on earthlikes^^

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BGec20gU1A

[frank sonnet]

i see ea is becoming the Netflix of videogames

[peak marsh]

If anything, Netflix is the EA of streaming services xD

EA has been a studio sausage grinder for years

Going all the way back to the mid 2000s when they bought and killed Westwood (RIP, that one still hurts )

[frank sonnet]

you'd think they would be like disney and try to utilize the acquired assets

[peak marsh]

Nah, their entire business model involves going through the industry like pac man and gobbling up smaller successful studios, taking their IP portfolio, then getting rid of said studio to "streamline assets" and "regain our core focus" (IE; show greater profits to the shareholders by closing studios)

[frank sonnet]

HULK SMASH!

[peak marsh]

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/windows-11s-biggest-update-in-months-also-includes-a-major-fix-for-gaming -this might explain it. I've actually had a couple freezes that required a restart with Enshrouded when I've never had that before. I was worried something was up with my GPU

[vague galleon]

im still on w10. i want to go back to w7....

[peak marsh]

Aside from the security flaws I miss Win10. Especially the ability to move the task bar to the right side of the screen like a civilized human

[vague galleon]

right side?

it sits at the bottom.

[peak marsh]

You can unlock it and move it. The horizontal edges take up more real estate than the sides on modern monitors but for some reason in 11 you can only do top or bottom. Drives me crazy

So all I can do is have it auto hide

[vague galleon]

ah. im just used to the bottom.

ill sadly have to get w11 when i build a new pc

[peak marsh]

https://www.ign.com/articles/nacon-revolution-x-unlimited-review -just in case anyone was curious about what $200 worth of controller looks like

[leaden yoke]

Got motivated to mess around with Cyberpunk modding again, and decided to try and create a dress inspired by this one by Cooltrede

It's still very much a WIP, but I'm having a lot of fun messing with blender again

[peak marsh]

I keep forgetting NMS added underwater stuff

[misty arch]

a lot of water stuff

https://youtu.be/Nthv4xF_zHU?si=DXFVsvs32rhy8ocI

[timber prism]

left side.. but yes... not a bottom commoner XD

[peak marsh]

The top and bottom are literally the worst spots on modern monitors >.<

And with modern programs at that, they're all designed for widescreen, meaning squishing them vertically by adding a taskbar to the top or bottom just makes them even smaller. I have allllll this horizontal space, let me align it on the side >.<

[timber prism]

https://bsky.app/profile/jasonschreier.bsky.social/post/3lqpsz6mslk2o

Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier.bsky.social)

I'm just saying, Final Fantasy Tactics is one of the greatest games ever made

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Bluesky · Jun 3, 2025, 5:30 PM

🙏

Please give us FF9 Remake and FFT Remake announcement this year

[peak marsh]

A true FFT remake would be amazing

Not a rehash/remaster, a real remake

To this day I think it's still one of if not the best game in that particular style

[timber prism]

its my favorite FF 100%

as tactics games goes.. I think the Disgaea series has to be my favorite

After finishing Expedition 33.. i started a modded FF9 playthrough haha

[misty arch]

unfortunately you will have to wait for a remake. Might I suggest a replacement instead.
https://youtu.be/HTbRSZmqFs0?si=S2DMiC_IF2tm7XR0

[autumn sleet]

I know, tech Demo but my god Ciri.

[timber prism]

Looks alright... not sure why there are so many few units in the gameplay vids though... the beauty of FFT and Disgaea is the amount of units you get to field.

[peak marsh]

And especially the number of ways you can evolve a base unit

[vague galleon]

i only ever played tactics advance, got far but never fimished it. had a character with the randomly generated name FUBAR. was quite funny.

[peak marsh]

Tactics advance is solid too, and honestly a better experience unless you're emulating the original. I'm still not sure how we survived tolerating some of those loading times xD

That's why it's crying out for a remake

[vague galleon]

i had thw final fantasy and chrono trigger remakes for ps1 and they were awful.

best CT version is the DS one.

i swear they ruined the steal skill in FF6 cause all i ever got were tonics. NEVER got my mithril claw! -.-
i also swear they removed a section of the train but i dunno. maybe im crazy.

i heard FFTA had a worse plot than the original but i never played the original. most tactic games dont interest me but i did love me some xcom.

[limber barn]

It always has been. They are just finally starting to collapse under the weight of their own stupid.

[peak marsh]

Yeah but the mechanics were there and again, no loading. That does a lot more for the experience than plot IMO. Though FFT did have a good plot

[timber prism]

I consider FFT the best story out of all the FF games

Music was great too

[peak marsh]

https://www.polygon.com/news/603493/no-mans-sky-beacon-update-switch-2-compatibility -apparently they're adding town building and management now

The tl;dr:

Players can become town mayor and take ownership of multiple settlements. You can construct buildings and upgrade each one, with new building types like jukebox bars where you can choose the music, merchants where you can build custom starships or even ponds you can chill and fish at.

Each inhabitant can be conversed with, with their own abilities and attributes to manage. As town mayor you’ll be enlisted to welcome new settlers, resolve disputes, and make choices to create prosperity.

A well managed settlement can make their owners rich in resources, but they need to be protected. Travellers can hire a squadron of wingmen, who will now defend towns when they come under attack from roving pirates.

[burnt spear]

This.... Wasn't this already in the game with Settlements...?

[peak marsh]

No idea, it's been ages since I last really dug into NMS

[burnt spear]

I know I have a settlement that I can expand with new buildings now and then, and govern and get materials from. Perhaps they're just expanding that...

Making it more actively engaging.

[tepid wadi]

Probably, I found settlements to be pretty boring, personally

Good to see them expanding on the foundation of it

[vague galleon]

👀 👀 👀 👀

[sweet patrol]

WITCHER 4???? YES!!!!!

[misty arch]

this is everything NEW with the update

[tepid wadi]

Damn, seems like a big one. But also my brain goes "Advaned settlement tech? Sounds like something prepping for Light No Fire!"

[peak marsh]

Maybe using NMS as a test kitchen?

Or taking things they've already done in LNF and bringing them over 🤔

[misty arch]

yes to both. You can tell things coming to No Mans Sky are tech being tested for Light No Fire. The Water Planet update was a huge one to show what they are testing.

[frank sonnet]

i currently own a settlement pre this update it will be interesting to see what changes

[tepid wadi]

Both, would be my guess. A lot of the updates in the last year look like they'll be good for both games

[timber prism]

@peak marsh

[peak marsh]

Wait, Ivalice Chronicles? Does that mean a mash up of FFT and FFTA?

[timber prism]

Nah its the OG 1997 and War of the Lions

So you get both versions

[peak marsh]

Bah, Playstation exclusive

Fully voiced dialog too. Be nice if there's a PC version down the road

[vague galleon]

i should look up the plot of FFTA maybe

I have been debating back and forth for years on a big question.
Should I play and finish Golden Sun Lost Age?
or just try and find a youtube video covering the plot and save myself time?

honestly I feel the second option is what I should do for like 90% of the JRPGs I missed out on.

i recently watched a retrospective on dark cloud 1 and 2 and SHEEESH I dont have time for that!

[peak marsh]

Dark Cloud was a great game though

[vague galleon]

it was alright.

[peak marsh]

Especially now that you can emulate it with upscaling xD

[vague galleon]

I have mass nostalgia for DC2

DC2, ToSymphonia, Rogue Galaxy, these games are like, peak art style for me.

I love the art style for the 3 torchlights, each of them, and the First and only the first fable.

TSFP is decent too.

also cell shaded games. 🙂

[peak marsh]

I have a soft spot for cel shading. The first time I really remember it was Jet Set Radio on Dreamcast and I've liked it since

Which reminds me that I still need to get Bomb Rush Cyberfunk (kind of a spirtual successor to JSR)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1353230/Bomb_Rush_Cyberfunk/

Steam

Bomb Rush Cyberfunk

Team Reptile brings you Bomb Rush Cyberfunk, a future world from the mind of Dion Koster where self-styled graffiti crews equipped with personal boostpacks are battling each other for control of the streets. Start your own cypher and dance, paint graffiti, collect beats, combo your tricks and face off with the cops to stake your claim to the spra…

Price

$39.99

Recommendations

11420

▶ Play video

[vague galleon]

there's a few minor things that left me disapointed in that game, and one big thing. but ya it's cool.

[timber prism]

Looking forward to new Sega JSR

Shinobi looks really good so im sure they will do JSR justice

[vague galleon]

I'd LOVE to have a completed save file of JSR for PC so I can just freeroam and vibes. but man im getting salty over the controls from the last time I played. also why no JSF on steam?!

it's a shame the dreamcast failed, definitely one of the greatest consoles of all time.

and I say that unironically.

[peak marsh]

Here's hoping

[vague galleon]

oh ya, wasnt there a leak for a future game at some pont?!

[timber prism]

Yeah. Sega is redoing all their classics

Starting with Shinobi

[vague galleon]

im seeing red thinkingf about the time I tried to jump off some rails. that game had bad controls at times.

[peak marsh]

For sure. The controller wasn't well thought out (or the anti-piracy ) but as a console it was great. If not for the combination of Sega's screwups with 32x and Saturn plus the rampant piracy, it would have been top of it's generation

[timber prism]

Which comes out this summer

[vague galleon]

I had the PS2 shinobi in 2009. It was okay.

[timber prism]

Also crazy taxi

[vague galleon]

the VMU is awesome.

[timber prism]

I mean. Pirating dreamcast games was so easy

Literally just burn it to CD

[vague galleon]

2 things I miss.

1. GC's menu, the floating cube, the ambient sound, so cozy.
2. PS2's save file icons and all their animation.
   that was peak gaming era.

[peak marsh]

The VMU is awesome, but the design was outdated considering PS2 was already a thing, the wire stuck out in the wrong direction, and the analog stick was just bad

[vague galleon]

the DC controller wasnt perfected until the xbox one.

[peak marsh]

Yeah, me and my friends discovered that early on and made money around the neighborhood burning DC games XD

[vague galleon]

im surprised that many people owned one!

[timber prism]

My friends and I did the same and played all the Japanese ones

I mean dreamcast is goated

[peak marsh]

RIP Shenmue

[timber prism]

Soul caliber on launch with a first party arcade stick

[peak marsh]

Soul Calibur was amazing. Also Power Stone

[timber prism]

Yeah

[peak marsh]

Also Marvel vs Capcom 2 basically arcade quality at home

[timber prism]

Ready 2 rumble boxing

[peak marsh]

R2R was awesome xD

[timber prism]

@peak marsh https://bsky.app/profile/square-enix-games.com/post/3lqsszkjnyc26

Square Enix (@square-enix-games.com)

Final Fantasy Tactics - The Ivalice Chronicles launches Tuesday, September 30th, 2025 for Nintendo Switch 2, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 5, PlayStation 4, Xbox Series X|S, and Steam, and pre-orders will start later today

For more information regarding the game, check out our blog: sqex.link/FFTICa

Bluesky · Jun 4, 2025, 10:09 PM

[peak marsh]

Alright, we're back on the hype train then

The only one's I saw talked about PS4/5 only

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8ogtUklbPs - I'm kind of split on this. On one hand, I don't think review units are especially necessary in this case because we more or less know what we're getting with Switch 2, on the other I agree that it's a consumer unfriendly precedent to set. Though I guess it's just the logical extension of game companies treating early adopters as their unpaid beta testers

Ultimately the moral the industry keeps teaching us is "don't be a day 1 buyer"

[vague galleon]

never.

[peak marsh]

Like, it's not just "no review units", literally Switch 2s need a day 1 patch in order to even function

They're paperweights until Nintendo says so

[vague galleon]

ya, like you should NEVER play a game that's in early access, let alone the first month of launch.

[peak marsh]

-cough-Enshrouded-coughcough-

[vague galleon]

whaaaat, i dont know what you mean.

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-24688521

[peak marsh]

xD I mean especially for hardware. I want a Switch 2 but all things considered (limited supply at launch, not revealing hardware specs before launch, not allowing outlets to review 3rd party games for performance before launch, etc) I'm more convinced than ever to wait 6 months and see how it shakes out

And especially considering the issues with the original Switch hardware, namely the Joycons. I'd find it hard to believe they haven't addressed them after that but that too has me in more of a wait and see mindset

[vague galleon]

i'll buy a switch 2 if I can get one for under 400 and the new zelda game makes link a lefty again.

otherwise hardpass.

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/oDLzPdKuOkE?si=n8RNbFJW-tVicaJE

[peak marsh]

I mean, between the pretty huge 3rd party support and the 1st party titles I know I'll want, I'm getting one eventually, they've just convinced me not to want one in the next 6 months or so, so I can get a full picture, maybe find one discounted, but also the library at launch is nothing worth rushing out for. A bunch of games you can already get on Steam plus Mario Kart and that Donkey Kong thing

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/J4qY9DYE184?si=snDGyF9rPMW3csWG

[peak marsh]

Has anyone managed a good 007 game since Goldeneye?

[vague galleon]

eh

i think there's bene some okayish ones.

[misty arch]

devs behind Hitman though

[vague galleon]

but goldeneye wasn't good as much as it was "best we had"

although maybe it's just me, going back to old console controls for shooters is often abysmal and that N64 controller...

[misty arch]

Goldeneye introduced the console generation to FPS's. That was why it was so popular.

[vague galleon]

perfect dark was leagues better.

same company though.

[misty arch]

perfect dark was suppsed to be a goldeneye sequal

[vague galleon]

i mean, ya, to be fair, perfect dark being better is kind of a, well no shit.

I think If I ever had friends who wanted me to bust out my old N64 i'd go on ebay and buy a bunch of those reshaped controllers.

[misty arch]

mines in the closet

https://youtu.be/sSC0eQdzM20?si=aHXWCcWXCxSqVdj1

[peak marsh]

I mean, I'd put Goldeneye's presentation up against a lot of modern games. Blocky of-the-time graphics aside it hit the notes and atmosphere of the movie pretty perfectly while leaving things just open enough for player agency to still be a thing

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/IVvDc7_w5ZY?si=pmlTfw_EFBWSlCqU

[vague galleon]

with better controls, sure.

[peak marsh]

That's what I mean, if you take the of-the-time aspects away and could do a modern remaster with modern controls but still have it be beat-for-beat the original, it'd probably still blow away modern attempts

[vague galleon]

maybe?

there's just been soooooooooo many good shooters since then

heck, i'd rather play Quake.

Love me some Quake.

[misty arch]

how about this classic
https://youtu.be/MBlRVZmA8fA?si=NU4LrRWe6NKdvWRh

[peak marsh]

Well I mean specifically 007 attempts, but it'd stand up with current shooters. Maybe not as the best of the best but at very least on par

But also I feel like every attempt at Bond the character since Daniel Craig doesn't quite work. In that trailer the impression I got is someone got some Nathan Drake into my Sam Fischer. It doesn't scream "Bond" to me

Trailer looks good, it just doesn't give me a Bond feel outside of the theme music

[vague galleon]

the best era was Roger Moore with all the spy gadgets.

for me the one thing I liked about james bond were all the cool spy gadgets.

a lot of the rest of it I hated.

[peak marsh]

Moore was a good era. Connery and Brosnan too, those are probably my top 3

We don't talk about Timothy Dalton

[vague galleon]

totally. although brosnan had some bad movies

honestly the movie goldeneye wasnt half as good as the game.

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/Idx9z6ke3tc?si=5UKAbCV0n5ZwuGGO

[peak marsh]

Yeah, Brosnan just fit the character well, the movies themselves had a lot of 90s cheese mixed in

[vague galleon]

ya

best spy movie ever is True Lies.

[misty arch]

then you never saw Spy Game

[vague galleon]

my absolute favorite arnold movie no questions.

what's Spy Game?

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/EH30237stWM?si=YApOKEJDBuygEuHN

[vague galleon]

oh is that an actual serious filn? no way it holds a candle to True Lies.
True Lies is cheese perfected.

[misty arch]

yes, it is a very serious and tries to be very realistic

and redford is the star

and amazing

[vague galleon]

"Your contact will be Boris, and your code name will be..."
"Natasha?!" ~ excited
"Doris..."

[misty arch]

its also a Tony Scott film

[timber prism]

Probably my fav MGS

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/KXGm-JaxY54?si=lJiGGVBuQUaWpmUJ

[timber prism]

Arc Sys getting the Marvel Tag was mindblowing

Best announcement that whole state of play

[vague galleon]

is that an MGS3 remake? I never could decide what difficulty to play on.

Also I always wanted to play Twin Snakes 3 times in a row but after each time I bought it I for some reason deleted my progression like an absolute fool and never got my third playthrough with both reward items. and each time I played it I did worse than the last. so weird.

[timber prism]

Yeah. Its a remake of MGS3

Snake eater

[misty arch]

new Thief but its VR
https://youtu.be/xrtbCcnZEhQ?si=O-yH5UEMe8j-50Yk

[timber prism]

https://youtu.be/6fbfrV5qqnU?si=P-abnCMbPkI3lPJ3

This right here is gaming news

[vague galleon]

i got paid back for something with thief 4 and boy was that a waste of money.

[timber prism]

Marvel swapping to ASW after doing business with Capcom for 30 years

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/Lpf9LoIWylA?si=U7IcexErv6KuAx3w

[peak marsh]

Guessing they think they can do better on the back of the movies? Not sure how considering Capcom is bacially one of the originators of the genre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ZmHYF6-xM

[timber prism]

For modern fighters, ASW has been top of the class for years

[peak marsh]

I mean yeah, Arc is solid, but hard to say better than Capcom? IDK, only the actual game will tell

[timber prism]

Especially tag stuff

I mean.. Capcom has done what? SF6?

[peak marsh]

TBF true, they've been more interested in releasing compilations lately

[timber prism]

Granblue, Dragonball, Guilty Gear Strive are all super good

I will also love Capcom arcade fighters but they really haven't done anything

And the budget they gave the latest MvC was so bad

That the game ended up dog tier

The trailer for the new Marvel looks really good. It will be interesting how they handle it

Supposed to be 4v4 or something

Which means crazy roster

[peak marsh]

4v4 would be some wild matches

But also what kind of roster will they have? One of the reasons MvC worked is because once you get past the relatively small list of A-Tier Marvel characters, they get pretty odd

For 4v4 you're going to need a pretty massive character selection so fights don't get repetitive fast

[timber prism]

The character designs are so amazing

https://youtu.be/alVaNljwtq4

Max is my spirit animal

[peak marsh]

Admittedly it's nice to see Ghost Rider represented. I loved Ghost Rider back in the day and I feel like he never gets represented much

In spite of having one of the better character designs. I mean, biker with a flaming skull for a head who fights with chains xD

[timber prism]

Mvc3

Im happy to see Ms marvel

[peak marsh]

I mean that, but in general Ghost Rider has had/been in hardly any games and one cheesy movie with Nicholas Cage

[timber prism]

You got so many. All of the mcu heroes and villains

Fantastic 4. Xmen

[peak marsh]

That's what I mean, outside of the core X Men and Avengers, and a handful from Spider Man, the characters in the MCU get pretty weak pretty fast (not physically, like conceptually)

It's not long before you're dragging out characters like Lockjaw or Darkhawk

[timber prism]

Not sure wym

Gotg

Like branding wise???

[sweet patrol]

I am going to play the HELL outa this when its out. LOVE the anime style rework the characters have

[peak marsh]

Like on a conceptual level

Agreed there, the trailer has some cool designs

[timber prism]

Like marvel has the biggest roster to pull from

[peak marsh]

I mean again, they have a LOT of characters that are just kind of odd or don't really hold up on their own. It's part of what's great about Marvel, they're so experimental, but also outside of the handful of big names the Marvel Universe gets pretty weird pretty fast

Not saying it can't be done I'm just curious what kind of roster they'll wind up coming up with

Like without another property to help balance it out

[timber prism]

Could name 30 right now lmao

So many Spiderman villains

[sweet patrol]

Imagine if they brought out frog thor......

[timber prism]

Red Hulk

Sandman

Kingpin

Memphisto

[peak marsh]

Venom, Carnage, maybe Electron and Goblin. So add in Black Cat and you have 9

Plus Spidey, 10

Maybe Rhino

[timber prism]

Mysterio

[sweet patrol]

Vulture and scorpion too

[timber prism]

Yup

[peak marsh]

Vulture is kind of digging

[sweet patrol]

there is no shortage of marvel characters to pull from without even touching the likes id Frog thor

[timber prism]

Hobgoblin

[peak marsh]

Yeah but now we're already hitting variants. Goblin/Hobgoblin, Hulk/Red Hulk

[timber prism]

No one said hulk

Xd

[peak marsh]

I mean, I'd assume Hulk would be in there

It'd be kind of weird if he wasn't

And granted Gob/Hob are two different characters but like for a fighting game how much different would they be fundamentally

[timber prism]

All the xmen

Jubilee

Beast

Xavier

[sweet patrol]

nightcravler

[peak marsh]

Wolv, Cyc, Storm, Jean, Nightcrawler,

[timber prism]

Gambit

Rogue

Psylocke

[sweet patrol]

Deadpool!!

[timber prism]

Sabretooth

[sweet patrol]

and he must have Ryan Reynolds voice!

[timber prism]

Haha

[peak marsh]

That would automatically make it 10/10

They wouldn't even need to do anything else

[sweet patrol]

Throw in nicepool for flavor🤣

[timber prism]

Juggs

Mr sinister

Magneto of course

White Queen

Haven't even talked about all the GOTG, Fantastic 4 heroes and villains

[peak marsh]

Isn't Fantastic 4 still in a chokehold because of Fox?

[timber prism]

Im sure they will be fine filling out a hefty roster of well known characters

Nah. They even have trailers of the new movie

[peak marsh]

Fair. Plus I'm completely overlooking that Dr Doom was in the trailer xD

[timber prism]

I think its the next MCU movie since Thunderbolts had them in it

[sweet patrol]

Doom looked absolutely sick

[peak marsh]

That'd be nice, because Fox hasen't done anything with it in 20 years

[timber prism]

Yeah. Doom is iconic

And has been OP since the old MVC games lmao

[sweet patrol]

I have so many fond memories of mvc and schooling my friends in the way of whoopass

[peak marsh]

xD Way back in the day there was a MAME plugin called Kaillera, that allowed for netplay on arcade emulators with public lobbies. I spent many, many hours in pick up games of MVC and KOF 2k2

Even had the setup where you could have 4 players on MVC where each player controls a different character

KOF also, you could do 3v3 with 6 players

[timber prism]

Mvc2 for dreamcast

Was a core memory

Unlocking to a roster of 56 characters was so fun in that game

[vague galleon]

theres some old pc fighting game that might be other there with hundreds of fanmade character like goku ssj5 and stuff.

cant remember what its called.

Mugen sounds about right.

[peak marsh]

Sounds like Mugen. Rather than a game, it's more like an open source fighting game engine where people can basically add whatever they want

So naturally hijinks ensue and you get fights like Goku vs Big Bird etc

[timber prism]

yeah

i have a mugen with like a crazy sized roster but its not like balanced for shit

which is also mvc2

[vague galleon]

i havent thought about that game since like 2007

i recall silver haired goku. thats it.

[rugged rapids]

Anyone ever play AvP extinction for PS2? That game needs a remaster on PC

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETVwCzxPqB4

[vague galleon]

250 hours, man, imagine sinking that much time into ONE game!

[finite saffron]

Force sinks that much time into every game lol

He definitely breaks the game reviewer stereotypes, he is super dedicated to the games he reviews

[vague galleon]

oh I was just making a joke about how I have like 930 hours in enshrouded.

[frank sonnet]

he can actually beat the first level?

[rugged rapids]

Lmao I’ve sunken around 600hrs into enshrouded. Finally found a game that passed my 500 hours in fallout 4 🤣🤣😂😂

930hrs is insane! I love it 😂😎

[vague galleon]

it's going to be at number 2 for a long time for me

all the bethesda games are 200-400 hours for me (except FO3 which i mostly played on my brothers Xbox)

Torchlight 2 and Terraria are in my top 5.

[frank sonnet]

i have 600 hours in ark

[peak marsh]

It'll be a while till anything passes ESO on my list

[peak marsh]

This is a bit part of why I like his reviews, he really plays each game thoroughly and if anything changes his thoughts he updates. That and he has pretty balanced, reasonable takes

[vague galleon]

i got like 3300 in gta online

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P4sNZvmzxA

[frank sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/you-tube-eddy-burback-yikes-sign-gif-13461371

[peak marsh]

Apparently CDPR learned nothing from the whole Cyberpunk launch experience

Like I'd buy the whole "this is just a technical presentation to show the things we're excited to bring to the game" if they didn't have a guy on stage pantomiming with a controller like he was actually playing it -.-

[frank sonnet]

at this point i don't know how another video game crash has not happened yet

[vague galleon]

doesnt CDPR own GOG?

[frank sonnet]

they do

[vague galleon]

shame. gog is so cool. how ironic.

[peak marsh]

Well like, they own it but they didn't create it, do the things that made it cool, or even maintain it. It's just a thing they own

Actually I take that back, in a respect they founded it

GOG.com is a separate subsidiary of CD Projekt, though it is often seen as a sister company to CD Projekt Red

[vague galleon]

hmm

[peak marsh]

Though I think it's completely segregated from what CDPR does

[frank sonnet]

new twitch drop item for Poe1

[frank sonnet]

https://youtu.be/puoaqrXxHPs?si=ijkDdWkqGNbiQD_4 this video was a interesting watch

[peak marsh]

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-screen-punctures-ruin-launch-day-for-fans-due-to-store-receipts-stapled-into-consoles-box -Never change GameStop,, never change xD

[peak marsh]

I'm less surprised that they were damaging Switch 2s with staples and more surprised people are still going to GameStop for preorders

[vague galleon]

where else would you go? walmart?

[peak marsh]

Directly through Nintendo. Maybe Best Buy

I mean if you're preordering a Switch 2 I'm betting you have regular internet access, literally no reason to go through GameStop

[sweet patrol]

Why in the H E doublw hockey sticks would they use staples and not tape????

[peak marsh]

I asked myself the same question and the only answer I can come up with is "because GameStop"

And their long, storied tradition of having some kind of massive, catastrophic screw up every time something big launches

[vague galleon]

lol

[misty arch]

13 min to start
https://www.youtube.com/live/-Hr6Q2hln_M?si=6wAkMa8lQEqA2zXG

[vague galleon]

7min

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3G-_0irJx0

[vague galleon]

you know what i hate about the switch? it's just a bloody tablet with some controllers attached

ive been dying since the GC for them to just make a normal damn console.

[peak marsh]

Owning a Switch Lite and having played the OG Switch, it really does feel different. I had an Asus gaming tablet around the time of the Switch launch and the experience really is leagues different

Like it feels like what console gaming should be headed towards

Just the ability to take your game from the TV to the bedroom to the toilet and back again, vs PS/Xbox which both just feel like specialized, less powerful PCs

I really can't fault them for the innovation

That said other handhelds do it better in terms of power or ergonomics or functions, but as a single package Switch does a lot of things very well

In speaking to the Switch vs Tablet thing, playing on tablet with an expanding controller was cool but felt a little fiddly, and you could only do so much with it. Picking up my Switch Lite, I feel like I'm playing a current gen game and it just works. No frames, no stutters, no settings or setup. Pick it up, play a game

Until you get on the e-shop -.-

The Nintendo e-shop runs on pencil lead and has the performance of a snail trying to cross a street

[vague galleon]

i just want a console to be a powerful cosole, and im sorry, but, I miss the game boy line. I liked when there was gimmicks tying gameboy and console games together, well, sort of.
i hated using the GBA controller instead of a controller for 4 swords and crystal chronicles

im also sad the PSP line failed.

[peak marsh]

That's one gripe I have with the Switch/Switch Lite, the controls are designed for tiny, tiny elves

[vague galleon]

to be fair though im tied to my PC too hard.

i barely touch my portable consoles anymore.....

[peak marsh]

This times 1,000, the PS Vita was great and too ignored

[vague galleon]

one day i'll finish chrono trigger and golden sun lost age......

i did recently buy a new psp battery, and then latery found one in storage that wasnt bloated lol

ive "tossed" at least 2 bloated psp batteries.

[peak marsh]

These days Sony seems stuck on the PS Portal, which is a terrible substitute

Like apparently it's gotten better but like, what's the point when you're still married to the console itself?

I'd rather use a PC handheld that does more or wait for a Steam Deck 2 and grab the big Sony titles when they eventually hit Steam

[misty arch]

new mmo coming in the world of Atomic Heart
https://youtu.be/YHHJM-KZfss?si=relezV7ETlcnWZHn

https://youtu.be/sfufcWOh2LE?si=svsDFmUL7LSaOjrK

[peak marsh]

See CDPR? You can say it's not actual gameplay in your trailer

[tepid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/skepticles-skepticism-gravity-falls-mabel-pines-gif-14805695

[peak marsh]

So I'm not alone in feeling it feels kind of milquetoast and stupid to base an MMO around a giant box xD

"So like, think Halo, but square"

Is this the Skinner Box we've been talking about? xD

[tepid wadi]

Well, to be fair the setting of Atomic Heart was the most interesting piece of it. But the stuff shown in that screams "extraction game" more than "MMO" to me

I'll bet you $50 right now that the gameplay involves going to the cube, gathering resources and defeating enemies (and maybe other players) and extracting to the "base".

[peak marsh]

That too. Also the lingering shot on the female characters belly button annoys me. Just make a good game, don't try to pander to me as your "target male audience". That alone sets off my alarm bells

If you had enough of the right gameplay, gratuity wouldn't be necessary

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, I agree in general, though you can have both. It's amusing how many asks there have been on the feature upvote for sexier armor in Enshrouded 😝

[peak marsh]

Every frame of a game trailer is a highly cultivated thing. People spent weeks deciding what to show and feature and when part of that is just a female character model in a skin tight extremely revealing costume with lingering shots, you're telling me that your gameplay wasn't enough to showcase

[tepid wadi]

Indeed

[peak marsh]

Literally she isn't doing anything cool, she's just kind of.. walking

[tepid wadi]

Something something reveal trailer

But yeah, to your main point, a rotating cube as the primary environment for a MMO doesn't have me leaping out of my seat

[peak marsh]

Well and like, there's no intrigue. No antoganist. What are we fighting against? CUBE What is the main driving force behind the plot? CUBE Why do we need to become stronger and what do we need to overcome? CUBE

What makes me want to live in Cubeworld, not that Cubeworld but this Cubeworld, and why do I care? xD

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, ironically it feels kind of... one dimensional 😝

[misty arch]

Seemed like the cube was more a representation for a portal for groups of people to enter into other worlds to explore.

[tepid wadi]

I dunno it seemed like there were a couple scenes in there of people leaping onto different sections of a map as it started to diverge

But obviously it's not gameplay, so until we see that I'm going to assume it's a cover-based shooter ala Outriders 😝

[peak marsh]

I'm expecting a kind of Once Human thing where it's actually based around a different genre but tacks on MMO to try to bring in more of that crowd

It doesn't feel legitimate

Like what is the world? Who are the powers at play? Why do I care? xD

"OMG we got this big F-ing cube!" Okay, what makes me care about it?

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, as a reveal trailer it misses a lot of obvious hooks for MMO folks. Like I said, extraction is the vibe I get from it.

Stop me before I start ranting about community and large group interactions being the key element of MMOs again, heh

[vague galleon]

okay who has a belly button fetish....

[peak marsh]

I mean, it isn't that but over 30-some-odd-years of being advertised to as a gamer, I recognize pretty immediately when I'm being pandered to

[vague galleon]

ya. honestly while i have zero issue with fan service, i also dont play games with it. for reasons.

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/3CcNErRwmTU?si=uZjw5YcbC9nrsgXZ

[peak marsh]

Like, when you have to push your female character's femininity so far foreword, it means you don't have any actual gameplay reasons for me to be interested

It's filler designed to distract me from the fact that there isn't enough substance to fill a 3 minute trailer

Not to say that can't be artistic and cool in certain applications, but when it's as abrupt as that you're telling me a lot about what you have to offer

If it was say, a Lara Croft game where a female protagonist was at the forefront, okay. For an MMO? 🤔

Femininity can be a really strong character trait, if that's the character. This isn't one of those games xD

[tepid wadi]

One of the great things about MMOs is customization, and I'm not sure that this trailer really showed off anything that showcases that. Like one of the main things that makes that sort of hyperfeminine options is the existence of other options for people who prefer to look otherwise.

Also I had to rewatch it to be sure, but I don't think we see a single shot of a male character in anything other than standard military-looking gear.

There might be one brief flash of one

Mildly amusing

[peak marsh]

Which kind of drives my point xD

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, I mean MMOs generally have a hard time with reveal trailers because there's just... so much to a good one.

It's hard to capture it in a 90 second trailer

[peak marsh]

I mean again, you could talk about the driving forces behind the world, show some cool gameplay hooks, showcase your character customization or how you can customize your place in the world. This game? "We got f-king CUBES"

[peak marsh]

"What are they? WE DON'T KNOW! F-KING CUBES!"

[frank sonnet]

this was such a disappointment

[peak marsh]

Description/screen seems cool

[frank sonnet]

unfortunately it won't be coming out because the dev was outed as a pedo

[peak marsh]

I'm not sure I'd describe that as a disappointment

[vague galleon]

i would legit play Cones of Dunshire.

[peak marsh]

Like I get what you mean, it sucks that what looks like a good game was scrapped for not-game reasons but like, all for the best

[frank sonnet]

what i mean is its disipointing the creator of the game is a pos

[tepid wadi]

It always sucks when promising things are tainted by the actions of their creators, that's for sure.

[peak marsh]

I mean realistically all we as gamers care about is the end product, the game. Like it sucks the game isn't happening but also like, it isn't disappointing that the creator was outed as a POS it's a net positive, because he can't continue to be a POS and better, more respectable developers will finish what he couldn't because he was too busy being that POS

As ever game design is an iterative art form and even if one promising developer winds up being shitty, several more will step up and take their place

[rare summit]

watching his devlogs was fun though 😄

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/FjFHrE7Ls4Q?si=LFT4RN9kb9Dm845g

[timber prism]

I was so excited that this was either gonna be def jam or a remake of the old wu tang game but this is cool too @misty arch

[frank sonnet]

Thiers going to be a demo of this during next fest

[vague galleon]

roguelite.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[frank sonnet]

???????

[vague galleon]

JUST LET ME PLAY THROUGH THE GAME

im sick of so many cool shooters just being roguelikes, it's just lazy.

cause hey, i make mistakes, more than most, so I never make it past like level 3.

so i wasted my money on a game that should have had normal progression.

[timber prism]

Siiick. I love roguelites!

[vague galleon]

im sick of them. booooooooooo
its just a lazy way of of avoiding actually making a full length game.

[timber prism]

@vague galleon just sounds like its a genre not for you. Especially if you can't finish one.

[vague galleon]

maybe, but I love good shooter and I just feel tricked.

the only roguelike I enjoy is/was RoR2

[timber prism]

Not sure what's tricking you. Too challenging? You get perma upgrades so that you should eventually beat whatevers gating you from winning a run

Oh wait. You wrote roguelike not lites

[vague galleon]

is there even a difference?!

[timber prism]

Yeah

[vague galleon]

thinking I found a fun new shooter and it's just a "ooweewoowee procedural levels!" and not an actual lengthy game.

[timber prism]

Roguelikes dont have anything that carries over

[vague galleon]

the worst one was rogue legacy.

lets make the game harder EVERY time you die!

[timber prism]

That's the fun of that one

And its not harder

Its potentially much easier depending on the trait

[peak marsh]

Not shooters but if you want a good roguelike experience that can show you the potential of the genre try Hades or Dead Cells

Both great games that do roguelike really well

[timber prism]

Those are both roguelites

But yes. Good games

[vague galleon]

Delver was decent.

[peak marsh]

Yeah, lite not like, but as far as the core gameplay loop

[vague galleon]

my brain is never going to get that right, words too similiar.

[peak marsh]

Like = truly start over every time you die, gameplay loop results in trial and error to get further each time. Lite = start over but keep some form of progression from the previous run, resulting in growing stronger with each new attempt

[timber prism]

Get stronger "every" run? Roguelite

[vague galleon]

ziggurat requires too much grinding to gain any advantages.

my one complaint about risk of rain 2 is not being able to save my run for later. would be so cool.

like let me save 2-3 runs. >_>

i never could beat the final boss in FTL and the one good mod was never updated for the dlc.

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/2WIhc9hjlTQ?si=cxd7SWPBeBg7_-mJ

[peak marsh]

I love that he did a Doogie Howser bit for it xD

[frank sonnet]

i hope we get a demo or playtest of this

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeM3lJeqTLA

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/eyXGm8JCBrk?si=z2tWlLOflTfnBx2e

[frank sonnet]

am i the only one who thinks the way steam is doing its game events is ultra confusing

[misty arch]

its not their events so that is why it looks so confusing. There are multiple things going on at the same time.

[peak marsh]

Yeah, there's Summer Games Fest, The PC Gaming Show, and Gamesummit all happening at once along with the Switch 2 launch. Journalists are existing entirely on caffeine right now

[frank sonnet]

its too much

[peak marsh]

They're all getting their big announcements in ahead of the holiday season but also summer when school is out and a lot of the world goes on vacation is the best time to get a lot eyes on your new trailers

[frank sonnet]

i tried the fall of Avalon demo

[peak marsh]

How was it

[tepid wadi]

One of my buddies loves it, I fully intend to load it up at some point

Grimdark Arthurian Skyrim is a solid combo for me

[peak marsh]

It has my interest. Especially considering the full list of confirmed MMOs releasing this year are 7, and 4 of those are cross platform with mobile -.-

[tranquil cove]

you guys post a new game every day, you gotta be millionaires to buy and play this many games 😆

lol

https://youtu.be/mAzJS23-itE

i dunno none of these games scream buy me to me

this video starts with npc talking forever and putting me to sleep

[peak marsh]

Following and learning about games is exactly what you do when you're not a millionaire. You make educated choices so you don't waste your money

[tranquil cove]

is that as fast as you can walk in this game?

the rate at which he is walking is getting on my nerves 😆

can he shift run please

is the character wearing full plate mail or something

why is the character so slow

cinematic gameplay mode

the game doesn't really capture anything, at least in this gameplay video

it's just a mine, with monsters they invented

typically not a fan of horror games, which invent monsters

puts it in high fantasy for me

like high imagination or horror culture, vs mythology/established monsters

you could invent monsters that have a mythological basis though

like you say avalon, and king arthur, but im not getting anything that feels like that lore or magic or location, the castle and the guy speaking in a british accent is not enough. you can get that in games not even located in britain.

seems more like a psychological horror/myst puzzle game at the rate this guy is walking making everything cinematic lol

so its loosely based on avalon meaning they used the name avalon and thats it

would be cool to have a game actually based on welsh mythology

The Otherworld is usually called Annwn in Welsh mythology and Avalon in Arthurian legend. In Irish mythology it is Tír na nÓg. There is also Mag Mell and Emain Ablach, Tech Duinn, the last of which is where the souls of the dead gather. the Otherworld in Welsh mythology. Ruled by Arawn[1][2] (or, in Arthurian literature, by Gwyn ap Nudd[3]), it is a world of delights and eternal youth where disease is absent and food is ever-abundant.

if devs read history/mythology it would be nice

Achren has been thought of as a goddess. She is mentioned as fighting in the Battle of Godeu. But the manuscript that speaks of her is very late – in fact, from the 17th century! We are told in this late source that the god Bran was also in the battle, and that if anyone could guess either her name or his, then the side that person was on would win the battle. Bran had with him sprigs of alder (or alder depicted on his shield), and it was because of this that Gwydion was able to guess his name. For was not Bran’s son named Gwern, which in Welsh is ‘Alder’?

But Achren herself was not a goddess – she was a divine bird from Annwn, the Otherworld. In the Welsh Triads we are told that the cause of the Battle of Godeu was the theft of a plover, white roebuck and a whelp from Arawn, Lord of Annwn, by Amaethon son of Don. When the tale is told in the 17th century, only the white roebuck and whelp are said to be the cause of the battle. The plover is oddly missing.

So what happened to the plover? This bird in the early Welsh tongue was ‘chornugil’, and in the text of the Triads chornugil is preceded by ‘a’. Achren is nothing more than a corruption for ‘a chornugil’. In other words, Achren is the plover of Annwn.

This is why she is paired with Bran, whose name means ‘Raven’. They were both sacred birds of the Gangani or ‘Branch’ people. The plover migrates very long distances, and often does so without stopping along the way. Its flight is rapid, and it also is quick to give alarm calls, and so is the sentinel for other shorebirds.

like i want to play a game with goddess birds

In Welsh mythology and literature, the Pair Dadeni (Cauldron of Rebirth) is a magical cauldron able to resurrect the dead. It plays a key role in Branwen ferch Llŷr, the second branch of the Mabinogi. It is one of a number of magic cauldrons in Welsh legend and folklore, including the cauldron of Diwrnach the Irishman in Culhwch and Olwen, the cauldron of the Head of Annwn in Preiddeu Annwfn and the cauldron of Cerridwen in the tale of Taliesin.

like there is crazy magical stuff in welsh mythology

probably moreso than norse

In Welsh mythology, the Pair Dadeni, known as the Cauldron of Rebirth, appears in the second branch of the Mabinogi. It could return the dead to life but without the power of speech.

the only recently invented lore i ever really liked was ultima online, but thats because they wove in virtues and good music.

put in good music and you can sell your lore to me

[frank sonnet]

good this the kind of game i can sink my teeth into

[frank sonnet]

play the demo. it does a better job than this ign video

[tepid wadi]

Without diving too much into it, King Arthur and the knights of the court are all very important features to the game.

[tranquil cove]

i gotta make a game

some company needs to get behind me

let me the be the ceo

then you'll understand why i knock on some of these games, once i complete something