other-games

[rapid yoke]

A little name calling or trash talking doesn't bother me

It's the straight gamer words and isms that push me off

If you make an extra sandwhich frie, I'll take one, but don't bother yourself!

[quaint cosmos]

our language will shorten down to grunts and moans. We'll all speak like cave dwellers from 60,000 BC.

[shy oasis]

Rude
People thinking I’m only good at making sandwiches

[rapid yoke]

I'd rather grunts and moans than f bombs and racism

[shy oasis]

Smh
Trust in my cooking skills ffs

[rapid yoke]

I'm sure you can make a fish too

or whatever else you want!

[shy oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-unga-bunga-loading-uga-gif-23786525

[rapid yoke]

But if you'd rather go fishing, I can cook

[shy oasis]

Hmmmmm

Actually

[rapid yoke]

go hit up the lake

I'll pre-heat the oven

I GOT YOU

[quaint cosmos]

a lake that's not frozen will be tough

[rapid yoke]

Not frozen here

[shy oasis]

Yeah

[rapid yoke]

I wish it was

[shy oasis]

I’d rather stay inside and bake some kids cookies in the oven

What?

[rapid yoke]

what kind of ki... oookies?

[shy oasis]

👀 Ehm

I’ll make a sandwich then lol

Fancy one though

[rapid yoke]

hahahahaha

[sullen crane]

I need pal world buddies

https://tenor.com/view/ramengrl-uwu-cat-pointing-finger-pointing-fingers-uwu-girl-gif-5775708587181192591

[rapid yoke]

it does look fun in a very unique way

[obtuse scroll]

Just in time for the DLC if it actually releases in Feb like the leak said. Aren't you lucky lol

[rapid yoke]

Alright cooldown is over, y'all have fun! See you when I get banned again!

[quaint cosmos]

Night everyone! I shall sleep as well.

[shy oasis]

Good night!

[rapid yoke]

First game back was glorious:

[shy oasis]

The name lol

[rapid yoke]

they hate me

Even if I top frag and carry, they hate me

[shy oasis]

People always hate on other people
It’s what it is
DEAL WITH IT

[rapid yoke]

I'm dealing, by winning 😄

[shy oasis]

Having fun too?

[rapid yoke]

of course, people have been chill so far these two games

[shy oasis]

Because the kids gotta go to school again

Less hate less bullshit

[rapid yoke]

I honestly feel it's the 20 somethings

they got their freedom, but they haven't learned yet

and some may never :/

[shy oasis]

Let’s not talk about this doomed generation

I’m too old apparently

[rapid yoke]

I think the kids are alright mostly, gen z at least, I dont know any alphas

[shy oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/i-felt-that-terry-crews-americas-got-talent-that's-heartfelt-i'm-touched-gif-9749041213614742270

[misty isle]

Posted this before, but I just let my Humble bundle run, and I often have some of the better games, so if anyone wants something to tide them over for 14 days, just pm me! all free of course, 1 key per person etc - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NXvC8G2GTZYXzPYHrLLhSwXVg-UVazz3cguQeymdRlw/edit#gid=755500510

[pale adder]

Was sick for the last month and a half, played Valheim and Conan Exiles to fill in for the wait on Enshrouded. Made me really miss the build system as well as the multitude of options. Not that those two games are bad or anything, more that they don't quite hit that survival / build sweet spot quite like Enshrouded does.

[timber prism]

Oh wow! Didn't realize Pax Dei is hitting EA in the spring

Also alpha 2 phase coming up shortly

[sullen crane]

When did they say that ?

[quaint cosmos]

steam store page

[timber prism]

Via newsletter email

[shy oasis]

lovely day in the Meadows

[quaint cosmos]

reminds me of that time that someone had a rule to not cut oak trees that are alone on the hills. I had to travel far away to cut them without them noticing first.

Why is the meadows having a huge shadow? Is it the clouds or something nearby?

[upbeat tangle]

I prefer not to cut them down until I can replace them with seedlings. They're such pretty trees.

[tepid wadi]

My only rule is to also remove the stumps

[upbeat tangle]

Only monsters don't remove stumps

[obtuse scroll]

They announced it Monday morning on their discord. They hadn't figured out combat yet in November, I think unless something SERIOUSLY changed, it's too early for them to go to EA. They are having an alpha 2 in the next month or so, then skipping beta and going straight to EA -_-. I had a bad experience with toxic players already on it and that was before they even implemented the PVP they were talking about. It went to the absolute bottom of my list for playing. I worry for the people that like it though, because too early of EA and people can really sour to a game.

An MMO has to hit the ground running with positive feedback or it dies before it can go anywhere.

[timber prism]

Toxic players goes hand in hand with multiplayer games especially survival types

[rapid yoke]

I've never dealt with toxic people in survival games

but I play with friends

[violet widget]

We have that same rule on our servers. We even built our farms around one and dubbed it "Lone Oak Farm"

[violet widget]

This is merely common decency... one must always remove their stumps 🤣

[timber prism]

Interesting. Rust / Myth of Empires / Atlas / Ark / Last Oasis... pretty much any pvp server has dozens.

[rapid yoke]

Ah, PvP games totally

I don't play PvP survival games

non-pvp survival games are super chill

[timber prism]

Gotcha. That would make sense then lmao

[rapid yoke]

like this one will be

[timber prism]

Oh. This one is gonna be super comfy

From my experince, it pretty much boils down to competitive gameplay that brings out the toxic players.. in any genre.. doesn't necessarily have to be pvp

[neon sleet]

Survival games are fun when people work together.

Not if someone acts like a prude

[rapid yoke]

any form of competitive gameplay is PvP

[shy oasis]

Basically the same
If you’re close enough

In a friendly way of course

[rapid yoke]

Yoooooo, chill

[shy oasis]

About the toxic people

[timber prism]

Nah. You will even see toxic players with pve content in games. Talking down to others with lower gearscores or having different equipment stats that stray from the "meta" that lead to auto kicking in parties when completing content because "it would go faster." Its only competitive in the sense that they see a lower time on their screen but in no way is it PvP.

[rapid yoke]

Are gear scores not some comparative value person to person?

That help you to compare one person to another?

Like a person, but versus another person?

[timber prism]

That is an interesting way to define what is considered pvp

[rapid yoke]

If it is competitive, it is pvp

[timber prism]

Just have to agree to disagree on that

[glacial gazelle]

By that argument every multiplayer game in existence could be pvp 🤣

[timber prism]

Exactly

[rapid yoke]

If there are competitive aspects to it

Not all multiplayer games have competitive aspects though

however, people can create them within the game, which then become pvp loops

[timber prism]

Interesting way to look at it

Never thought about it that way myself

[sullen crane]

Pve can be competitive

[timber prism]

Hence the difference in pve vs pvp servers in games is clearly defined by being able to attack another player with certain rulesets

[sullen crane]

Pve can still be pvpve

[glacial gazelle]

Yeah you have to make a defining line somewhere

[sullen crane]

Destiny raid leaderboards?

Competitive

Pve

[timber prism]

Yup. Fully agree on competive pve being a thing

[rapid yoke]

You don't have to make a defining line anywhere, that is the beauty of it

[sullen crane]

Even Minecraft building can be competitive

[timber prism]

But aren't you by saying any form of competition makes it PvP?

That is clearly a defining line.

[rapid yoke]

I think you can have multiple usages of words, most do

I think that PvP, as in killing other players is a totally valid use of Pvp

and never said it wasn't

[sullen crane]

It would probably be pvpve

Not pvp

[rapid yoke]

You want narrow usage, I'm opposed in this sense

[timber prism]

Aren't you the one that made it narrow by stating "if its competive, its pvp."

[rapid yoke]

That broadens it substantially from pvp is killing other players

[timber prism]

That really wasn't the discussion. I was stating comparing gear scores and equipment in gating players in parties and you stated that is pvp

[rapid yoke]

Right, it is competition

[timber prism]

Okay. Noted.

[rapid yoke]

it is a ranking system that players use to compare themselves to one another, in which players then technically compete for a spot in that party and the higher gear score, or at least a deemed acceptable score, will win out over a lower score. It is a moment of pvp

Same with like DPS logs

They are a pvp element of a game

Competition between players

player, versus, player for more dps

the act of fighting a boss cooperatively, totally PvE, but as soon as you make it a competition, you have introduced elements of pvp into the game

[sullen crane]

Yea but it’s still pve

Destiny has a huge system for this and it’s labeled competitive pve

It’s not PvP

[rapid yoke]

It's still a player versus player system

Even if the means to score is pve

the ranking is a pvp system

[sullen crane]

Competitive system

[rapid yoke]

between players

players pitted, versed, other players

[sullen crane]

Every game calls ranked or any leaderboard competitive not PvP

[rapid yoke]

And that is totally fine

There are a number of terms that have like meaning

PvP kinda came up in the RPG world

competition is x vs y from sports, to racing, to video games

videogames get the PvP tag, since that is where you tend to call people competing, players

[timber prism]

I personally think the definition is determined by the activity. Are you playing against another person in said content. PVP. Are you fighting against the computer/environment in said content. Then it's PVE. Someone determining if someone is joining your party versus someone else to do pve content is not PVP.

[rapid yoke]

It's a social PvP moment

racing is actually a really good example

[timber prism]

To you it is

[rapid yoke]

If you have two people racing against one another, technically they aren't competing against one another, but they are just fighting their skills vs the track

but we rank them vs one another

Racing is 100% a driver vs driver sport

[timber prism]

Correct. That would be pvp because you are racing against another person

[rapid yoke]

In this sense, PvP is the same thing when you create elements of competition

But you aren;t

You are just driving on the track

And others are there on the track with you

but they are also just testing their skills vs the track

[timber prism]

Me picking a car versus another car for said race doesn't make it car pvp

[rapid yoke]

Right?

Those selection processes are highly competitive, if someone isn't selected it was at someone elses benefit. It is a micro example of PvP, but it is still a PvP moment

[timber prism]

Disagree

[rapid yoke]

That's fine

[thorn pebble]

demolition derby would be pvp i think

I have no horse in this race, just trying to derail this topic even further

[rapid yoke]

HORSE RACING IS PVP

XD

but really it is

[thorn pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-gif-3576416911113554850

[misty arch]

just be aware that PVP stands for player vs player combat. Just that nobody adds the C.

[spring raptor]

Just 5 days to catch-em-all, before moving on to Enshrouded. Gonna be tight!

[rapid yoke]

I'm interested in seeing how it goes Folly, but from the sidelines

If any of you all stream, I'd join for abit

[timber prism]

Taking tests at school is PVP

[rapid yoke]

Oooh, maybe

But not the act of taking the test

The competition for admissions or programs may bring about some social PvP for sure

but just taking a test isn't inherently competitive

[rapid yoke]

Arbitrary and wildly unused

[timber prism]

It is for school. You get ranked by GPA

[uncut adder]

next couple of weeks gonna be expensive with Palworld and Enshrouded come out a week apart. massively looking forward to both these games.

[rapid yoke]

I don't know many students that care about the GPA rankings, but those that do are engaged in PvP

In the US, even in college, we don't really have this feature for most disciplines

[timber prism]

People graduate with honors wdym?

[rapid yoke]

I'm talking direct rankings, like posted exam scores and all that

If you want to turn those into a competition, then sure you are engaging in SvS

[timber prism]

💀

[rapid yoke]

I don't know many students though (always some), that engage in those types of competitions or are that competitive in general. I'm sure some disciplines have more than others.

Especially if pushing for masters or PHD programs

Highly competitive, definitely some student vs student going on there

[timber prism]

It is a competition regardless. Making deans list etc which are awards to top % whether you volunteer or not

[rapid yoke]

I do think you have to care about the competition to be involved in the competition, otherwise you aren't really competiting, even if others are trying to stack rank you

[timber prism]

Nope

[rapid yoke]

I get my quarterly dean's list emails and I really just don't care

It means nothing to me

I'm not competing, I'm just after a degree

[scenic brook]

Antone else going to try out Light No Fire when it comes out?

[peak marsh]

Not when it comes out. That's one I'm going to wait to see some early reviews on

[rapid yoke]

I'll gladly wait and see on that one Celestial

[timber prism]

Nope. Not playing

[scenic brook]

Hmmm I mean it looks good. But id likely be playing Enshrouded

I think its a good looking game though

[reef bobcat]

company is known for alot of issues lol

[rapid yoke]

It looks pretty for sure

[reef bobcat]

make it look pretty all you want, if it dont run right im not touching it

[rapid yoke]

It just also looks so empty

[reef bobcat]

this as well

[rapid yoke]

Very done with way too large of worlds with not much to do

[peak marsh]

My concern is that much like the early launch of NMS, it's going to be superficial at first and not offer a lot. Has the potential to be one of those games you buy 2 years later when its had some content drops

[scenic brook]

oh true

[rapid yoke]

yeah that 2 year anniversary sale

[scenic brook]

I actually never tried NMS so i havent no idea how that was early stages.

[rapid yoke]

Also, just no real gameplay loop footage prior to launch bothers me

I wasn't the bigges Path of Exile fan (like i really wont play it), but the second one looks good and the developers are VERY open about their game and how it works

some pretty trailer is just not enough to sell me on a game anymore

I need a little meat

but damn what a trailer

[reef bobcat]

what was that space game just came out lots of hype but failed so hard launching with bugs and crashes

[peak marsh]

Well here's the thing with NMS. They have added and done a lot since launch. A ton. It's laudable. But even for all that, it still feels like a very shallow and repetitive experience. Thousands of worlds and they start to resemble each other after your 3rd system, the rest is just doing repetitive missions

And here we're getting the early no-frills version of that experience but without space

[scenic brook]

that was NMS boba

[reef bobcat]

LOL

[scenic brook]

But i mean what i like is that they kept oing and made it into something way better than what it was

they stayed true to what they promised, eventually

[timber prism]

I agree with this. Just knowing how NMS launched I am very cautious about seeing how this new game pans out the first year

[scenic brook]

oh wait you said just came out

i have no idea what just came out lol

[peak marsh]

Starfield?

[scenic brook]

wait eve online?

whatever that game was lol

[timber prism]

I thought starfield was pretty good performance wise xd

I don't think I crashed more than once with over 40 hours

[rapid yoke]

Yeah I don't think starfield was considered super buggy, just super average

I don't know of any space game that launched recently that was bug ridden and crash heavy

[timber prism]

Yeah. It was alright. It was like a 6.5/10 for my personal tastes

[reef bobcat]

hm obv im wrong then 😉

[rapid yoke]

not saying you're wrong, just no idea which one it was

[reef bobcat]

pretty sure it was starfield

[rapid yoke]

big one was starfield though, and people just didn't like it at all

[timber prism]

Only hype space game that I can think of was Starfield

That collectors edition is sick thooo haha

[reef bobcat]

yup then i just got the 2 issues mixed

just a booty game lol

[rapid yoke]

yeah, very mid

the bethesda trend since fallout 4

just mid games

[spring raptor]

I still have not seen anything to set PoE2 apart from the first one. And I'm extremely skeptical from the amount of time they are taking to produce what is essentially a minor mod of their already finished game.
I'll certainly take a closer look at launch, but I'm not getting hyped.

[rapid yoke]

the entire skills shifting out of armor (meaning upgrading armor stats matter again for the whole game) and in general the slower pacing, not just one button builds

Both of which were major problems for me with PoE as an ARPG guy

Like zooming on screen and just killing everything pressing one button is not very engaging after a while

[hot brook]

I'm pretty excited about Light no Fire. I have heard/read about Hello Games and NMS. I've played NMS and agree with Rhoi's comments about it.

[misty arch]

https://www.pcgamer.com/best-survival-games-2024/

so many games, so little time

[peak marsh]

There's like 5 or 6 big ones dropping just in the first quarter

[tepid wadi]

TBH from that list, Enshrouded and Nightingale are the only ones I'm super stoked for

[peak marsh]

Enshrouded is easily my top, followed by Nightingale and Bellwright is working its way higher up on my radar

[tepid wadi]

Once human looks like a good time, but it feels more like MMO than Survival game

[neon sleet]

2020-2023
Objective: Survive

2024
"Hey, we heard you all like surviving..."

[tepid wadi]

Enshrouded is also first, which is a big deal when there are a ton of them coming out

[neon sleet]

Enshrouded will probably wind up being the basis for "modern survival-adventure " genre

[misty arch]

dont forget, most of the big survival games were made for pvp and to try to cash in on the fortnite/pubg craze. Meaning they had nothing to help keep you interested except for building once you were bored with the pvp. The new games like Enshrouded, Nightengale, Once Human, etc. are going the route of their worlds having actual storylines and things going on in their worlds. It is good to see these companies getting away from that older design.

[scenic brook]

@hot brook Oh nice! Whats your favorite part about the promotiona; stuff so far? I really like the mounts lol

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lghNsc0K3z8

[rapid yoke]

an absolute FLOOD of these types of games XD

[rapid yoke]

Watching him harvest that Macaw was hilarious

[tepid wadi]

Yeah I mean, it's pretty easy to buy all the component parts from the UE5 store and have 90% of a survival game completed

Wouldn't surprise me if we saw a lot of low effort ones come out that have mildly different themes

[rapid yoke]

definitely a big boom bust year, I hope people are selective and rate appropriately

Like, that just doesn't look good at all to me

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, survival games are starting to have to do things differently to becomes noticeable from the others. Like Enshrouded and Nightingale definitely stand out

[neon sleet]

Seems like there is a market for surviving against everything except each other XD

We are the difficult thing to survive against

[rapid yoke]

That's too real 😦

[neon sleet]

Ah yes.
People, our one weakness.

[hot brook]

The mounts, there appears to be sailing as well. The building, the characters are super cute. I kinda hate that there aren't female body types in NMS, but there were some in the trailer. I also like that they're seemingly aware of how NMS's nearly infinite universe feels so empty, so they're just going to focus on one planet.

[hot brook]

To be honest, I bought NMS because I love 65 Days of Static, not because I knew anything about the game really.

[scenic brook]

Oh nice. I also like the mounts but the visual of the game to me is pretty appealing. Ofcourse like you said with the empitness i might draw back and wait it out as well. Ive actually never played NMS lol. But when the game comes out and it seems like everyone is loving it ill give it a try for sure.

[hot brook]

Worth watching for sure. I'd love to see more content. I think I watched over 50 hours of Enshrouded demo streaming- I rode first class on the hype train for a couple of weeks.

[scenic brook]

oh wow! I would probably been there as well had i known about the game earlier. I really did miss out on a lot i think lol

[hot brook]

I didn't play the demo either, but rather watched streams afterward (still all available on Youtube). I'm sorta ok with not finding out about Enshrouded until afterwards, because then it was only like 6 weeks 'til early access. Maybe if I had actually played, I might find it harder to wait.

[scenic brook]

Well thats definently true. WAiting a shorter time does help to not have to be teased for so long lmfao. Ive been watchign the youtube videos and those are great to pass the time. lol

[near girder]

Blight: Survival, Light no Fire, Dune: Awakening, and Ark 2 are the ones I'm most excited for.

[neon sleet]

Ark 2
Toxic community Boogaloo

[tidal pumice]

Soo excited for BLIGHT!

Looking forward to Hytale also

Riot games will do good by it 100%

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/OFSGJ3y8cFk?si=Gfwmc-VHN4RmitrA

[rapid yoke]

Is that enshrouded? I seee Search for Water 😄

[misty isle]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-your-head-gif-8604199

[compact narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/no-lies-national-geographic-not-lying-telling-the-truth-gif-4483366

[dusk bluff]

Anyone play league?

[untold lynx]

oh god

not if I can avoid it

I've almost not played it in 2024

[tidal osprey]

I sometimes play.

[peak marsh]

Nah, if I want to feel frustrated and uncertain about my performance I just clock in at work

[untold lynx]

are u ok

[peak marsh]

[untold lynx]

🫂

[honest valley]

[dusk bluff]

New season dropped with a ton of changes. It's a complete shit show and I love it

[tidal osprey]

At least we dont have to deal with the complete bull that was Duskblade.

[hallow oracle]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1371580/Myth_of_Empires/

Playtest on the 23/01

Steam

Myth of Empires

Embark Upon a Thrilling JourneyExplore a land with diverse landscapes, ecologies, and weather, as well as a realistic day/night cycle. The v1.0 release of Myth of Empires also features a new map – Dongzhou Island, offering new adventures and challenges.Build Your Own Empire From the Ground UpMyth of Empires features sandbox gameplay with a high ...

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[quaint cosmos]

Play test for 24hrs. Then marathon Enshrouded

[honest valley]

what month is 23/01 🤔

/s

[rapid yoke]

januar

no

NG+1 November

[sullen crane]

Is it a mmo?

[misty isle]

I play a lot of TFT as its super easy whilst netflixing etc 😛 but not LoL itself!

[sullen crane]

Didn’t that game plagiarize ark survival evolved?

Now snail game’s basically owns the game

And released it again

[dusk bluff]

I used to hate TFT. Auto chess was better. Now tft is better than auto chess lol

[misty isle]

Aye, its not perfect by any means, but yanno, when you've got your feet up watching something average on netflix.. its decent enough xD

layers on layers of RNG

[misty arch]

its a survival building game set in ancient china

[sullen crane]

does it have P2W?

[misty arch]

no

[sullen crane]

how do servers work?

[misty arch]

basically the same as ark, conan, rust, etc. they have officials and dedicated servers

[sullen crane]

how many people lol

per server

[misty arch]

that i cant remember, maybe 50 max, might be lower

[hallow oracle]

I believe so.

Just thought it might be competition for Enshrouded.

[misty arch]

its been around for awhile but had legal issues that got it removed from steam for a time

there are former ark devs on the team and they were accused of stealing code

it has all been settled now and the game is finally back on steam and that feb release is the official release. it has been in EA this entire time

one of the big new things coming with the official release is mod support. they havent had that in EA

[hallow oracle]

Are you in the EA @misty arch ?

[misty arch]

I was, played on a dedicated server

[hallow oracle]

any good?

[sullen crane]

Is there controller support?

[misty arch]

I enjoyed it. Has enough difference from the other games I mentioned plus the ancient chinese feel to it was fun.

[sullen crane]

I heard it’s coming to consoles too

[misty arch]

it is

[sullen crane]

So does it have controller support on pc rn

?

[misty arch]

i think so, i cant remember since i only played on mouse and keyboard

[hallow oracle]

Looks like the Dev team are all Chinese.

so I can understand the feel of the game being Chinese

[sullen crane]

How does that army system work?

[hallow oracle]

Think I'll avoide the Playtest since it's the day before Enshrouded

[sullen crane]

I was watching a video and only one person was following them

Lol

[misty arch]

I think it allowed more than one thrall/npc to follow you if you wanted. Think the army system had to do with pvp and raiding.

[sullen crane]

oh so how about the base defense ?

is there ai ?

[misty arch]

yes and you can build some pretty big forts and have defenders and what not.

also has animal husbandry, farming, and other things

[sullen crane]

how grindy are the official servers?

is it ark level

[misty arch]

they were pretty grindy and no, not that bad

[near girder]

Myth of Empires is one of the best games ever made, plagued by servers that like to disconnect and mega guilds who tend to swarm servers like locusts.

They're supposed to be launching new servers in NA/EU/and Asia when 1.0 releases though, maybe that'll help... maybe..

[tepid wadi]

Lol, sounds just like Ark as far as server 'ownership'

[near girder]

You can transfer your character along with a wagon full of supplies easily between servers. Even between PvP and PvE servers. Resource nodes can be captured by guilds and the ones on PvE servers are protected indefinitely once captured... so the mega guilds send in scouts to new PvE servers and grab up all the high level resource nodes before the freshies on those servers ever have a chance to reach them. Then the mega guilds gather the resources and send them to whatever server they need them on.

[tepid wadi]

That sounds... significantly worse than Ark.

Like, how do people who aren't in the megaguilds play PvE?

And, how do the non megaguilds compete in PvP?

[near girder]

They can usually get access to the low level nodes, but once they're all claimed on the map, they have to wait until the owners abandon them.

[peak marsh]

WC

[near girder]

They don't... they get wrecked on a regular basis. They can fight amongst themselves for scraps. There's also a single "title" that each guild can compete for on each server too. Whoever holds that title gets a bunch of coins to spend on skill upgrades or guild upgrades. If you want the title you have to declare war on the current title holder... so good luck.

[tepid wadi]

Sounds terrible for small groups of people, tbh. No real options to play without joining a megaguild.

[near girder]

And most of the mega guilds are Chinese.

[peak marsh]

That seems like what AoC is going to end up being. Join a megaguild or toil

[tepid wadi]

Or make a private server and just enjoy PvE casually. That's what my group does with Ark

[near girder]

There are no private servers in MoE

[misty arch]

yes there is, i played on one that a friend setup.

[near girder]

😮 interesting

[misty arch]

and with them letting mods be introduced. will be interesting to see what people come up with

[near girder]

Do you still have access to the market?

[misty arch]

you talkbing about the Fair?

[near girder]

The public trading feature where you can buy and sell warriors, horses, etc.

[misty arch]

i dont think so because of how dedicated is setup unless there are multiples connecteed

[quaint cosmos]

is steam just slow today or is it me?

[peak marsh]

It's both. Uncle Gabe is targeting you

[rapid yoke]

That's all I ever get anymore, hate my current internet setup and nothing I can do about it XD

[quaint cosmos]

dam. Imagine coming home and I download Enshrouded. I won't play until Thursday after work.

wow, the Demo was 30GB, too.

[rapid yoke]

I'll start downloading it when I can, and it will take as long as it does, def stoked to play though!

[peak marsh]

I'll be off work so I'm going to be checking that "launch the game when finished" button xD

[quaint cosmos]

so lucky, I meant to say Thursday.

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMe8L-QMF2w

Kinda reminds me of a more detailed Mark of the Ninja with the movement

That game was awesome if you're into 2d stealth exploration btw

Though if we're being honest really all you have to say is "Metroidvania" and you at least have my attention

[tepid wadi]

Yeah it looks good

[peak marsh]

Hoping against hope for a Switch port but with the Switch 2 release details getting leaked, it might be seen as not worth the effort

[spring raptor]

Prince of Persia made the move to 3D games, now returning to 2D. Feels like a big step backwards. Metroid all over again.

[peak marsh]

I don't see 2d as a step backwards, it's just another style. Besides, their recent 3d entries haven't exactly been strides forward

Also, Metroid Dread was pretty stellar, if you're avoiding it for being 2d you're missing out

Though they do need to get going on the next Prime

[sullen crane]

https://tenor.com/view/beyonce-queen-swag-strut-royalty-gif-17880139

[short sail]

Metroid 4 will be in 4d.

[timber prism]

2D Metroid best Metroid

As someone who grew up with 2D Prince of Persia.. im happy to see it again

Prime was good but I had more fun playing Super Metroid

[sullen crane]

lol

[peak marsh]

I'd agree with that. In more recent terms, I had more fun playing Dread than I did playing the Prime remaster (though the remaster was really good)

But Super Metroid and SOTN got me on a Metroidvania kick that I can't say ever really ended xD

[timber prism]

For real.. both those games are GOATed

[peak marsh]

More recently games like Dead Cells, Sundered: Eldritch Edition and Bloodstained have kept it rolling

[timber prism]

the GBA ones are pretty great too tbh

[peak marsh]

Oh yeah, Aria of Sorrow is fantastic, I actually revisited it not too long ago

Bloodstained is a revelation, I can't wait for the next Iga

[timber prism]

Yeah, i liked that one too

Even the Dead Cells Castlevania dlc was good haha

now i really want to play a metroidvania xD

[peak marsh]

The part that gets me with Bloodstained is they really went further on the ability to customize how you play based on your weapon, shard abilities, and how you stack your gear

Sundered is a great one that's pretty cheap. All the art is hand drawn

[timber prism]

How was Curse of the Moon 2?

Maybe I will give that one a shot

[peak marsh]

I fire that one up on my Switch periodically

Curse of the Moon 2 was fantastic

Definitely worth a play if you haven't yet

[timber prism]

I wish we had this convo during the steam sale lmao

[honest valley]

Enderlilies was a nice metroidvania kind of game i played

[misty isle]

Morning all!

[jolly mango]

@misty isle Wotlk timewalking is currently on retail dungeons + ulduar... The trauma though of farming fos/pos

[misty isle]

hah, fair enough

I've not played retail since uhm, that tower? where you got anima powers

that was fun

[jolly mango]

Well.. we tend to say that never existed 😄

One of the worst if not THE worst expansion

[misty isle]

The expansion itself wasn't great aye, didn't raid at all, but I enjoyed the tower. just for the power creep/fantasy of it!

[jolly mango]

currently it's easier than ever to get back into retail tbf

or to come in as a new player

since Metzen came back they fixed Dragonflight, catch up stuff were added, way easier to gear and craft bis gear

[peak marsh]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1710180/Skye_The_Misty_Isle/

Steam

Skye: The Misty Isle

Embark on an epic journey through a hyper-realistic, Viking survival game, set on the majestic Isle of Skye. Join Einar as he braves the elements and confronts fearsome predators, unravelling the fate of the land and the mystery of his arrival. Sharpen your axe and prepare to set sail - Valhalla awaits! Explore New WorldsImmerse yourself in a vi...

Release Date

Coming soon

▶ Play video

Very early days, but one for the wishlist backburner

https://www.pcgamer.com/prince-of-persia-the-lost-crown-has-a-free-demo-you-can-play-right-now/

[untold lynx]

would love to visit Skye for real

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, that's on my destination list as well.

[mossy quest]

anyone playing Once Human?

[misty arch]

not yet

[tepid wadi]

Not currently, but I played ~10-15 hours of the beta

It's pretty good

[mossy quest]

nice was getting ready to check it out curious what the thoughts on it were

[tepid wadi]

Feels like "Ubisoft sandbox the MMO" to me. Lots of strongholds to clear and things to do, but you can easily do it with a group of friends. Then sprinkle some survival gameplay and base building on top of it.

At the start of the game it feels kinda shitty seeing 1000 little box houses all over the place, but that's just because the initial "build yourself a base" quest exists. Then once you get out into the world, you'll come across people's actual houses and it's kinda cool

[mossy quest]

Awesome, yeah everything I have seen or read about it has been positive for the most part, has all been good

going into it solo, so should be interesting lol

[tepid wadi]

You'll have no problems. Just make sure you take LOTS of ammo into the boss fights.

Don't do what I did and end up half way through the fight trying to melee the boss down because you ran out of ammo 😝

[regal hatch]

https://youtu.be/pTkAH7OXocM?feature=shared

[timber prism]

Yeah. I killed a few of the bosses with friends. Its pretty entertaining

Bosses are a cake walk but just like Zerax said.. if you are playing solo just make sure to bring in lots of ammo.. like in the thousands XD

[quaint cosmos]

reminds me a bit of Remnant with level 1 weapons and running out of ammo in a boss fight. Not the good days (mainly because some weakpoints are harder to find)

I know it's early, but if Once Human allows you to level up all skills to max, would that solve the ammo shortage? I'm not sure how the skills work exactly to make you stronger or if skill tree is just for base functions.

[timber prism]

you can craft better ammo if you skill into it

also higher tiers of the same exact weapon

I haven't tried bosses solo but Im curious if its just that it doesn't scale the health depending on how many are in the party so you have to do the work of every party member even if solo which is why it you might run out of ammo... It also super easy to craft ammo so its not like you would ever be short on it unless you just didnt craft enough prior to entering the fight

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, once you tget a bit of loot there's no real ammo "problem". It's mostly once you're in the boss fight there's no way out of it without dying. So you gotta actually prepare instead of waltzing into it like I did.

[quaint cosmos]

tough

[whole nacelle]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2646460/Soulmask/

Steam

Soulmask

Soulmask is a sandbox game that prioritizes an authentic survival experience. As the "last one" blessed with the mysterious mask, players will grapple for survival in a primitive land steeped in mysterious faiths, carving out a path to ascendance. Start from nothing, explore, build, recruit tribesmen to fortify your clan, and ultimately unravel...

Release Date

2024

▶ Play video

[misty arch]

saw some people playing that, looks very interesting

this is next week
https://youtu.be/xtEXfrk4e3I?si=klSe6WBmjvgHR-PC

[regal hatch]

https://youtu.be/ojqC2_TwzQM?feature=shared

[sullen crane]

https://youtu.be/TxoxXbc0Ros?si=mM1HeK8CM5ghhSVJ

[misty isle]

IF anyone ever played City Of Heroes back in 2004 made by NCSoft, it is now back online, they had pservers before, but NCsoft has now granted them the license to host it properly..

https://forums.homecomingservers.com/getting-started/

[upbeat aspen]

@dapper gale Sons of the Forest

[craggy egret]

Just saying.. as AAA studios go.... I was really let down by Starfield once again.

[pale cove]

Don't even talk about it hot mess and I enjoyed it even

[rapid yoke]

I mean, it was just average

[craggy egret]

I really want BSG to figure out how to spend their millions of dollars on building an actually good UI.. instead of relying on modders to do their work for them for free.

[upbeat aspen]

@rapid yoke I agree with a lot of what you said, but it was 100% on the devs for why the story was horrible, writing was horrible, etc.

[rapid yoke]

I mean i the story is terrible, who checked on the story?

[upbeat aspen]

On this point, if modders can fix the game in literally 24 hours, the devs don't really have an excuse

[rapid yoke]

Or did we just let "talented creatives" slip by with no oversight?

[craggy egret]

I had it in my mind that Starfield was going to be a space sim. ( I love No Man Sky)... but I can't even flippin' fly a ship through space.. I can just act like it. Sorry. Starfield was the biggest waste of money lately I've spent on a game.

[upbeat aspen]

I'm glad they left, that's why we get games like Enshrouded

[pale cove]

They need an actual outside UX consultant on their games too, they're utterly garbage in that aspect

Ship Builder UI/UX is dogshit to put it lightly..

[tepid wadi]

I don't think "Talented creatives" who are individual contributors are the problem. The problem is the overall design space ended up being so bland and boring that there's no reason to live in the world. That's much more on the management/vision level.

[upbeat aspen]

I looooove NMS, Starfield was such a disappointment after that

[pale cove]

If I have to spend time and make a sheet like this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1idlpvoAhu2KHdi7J60Iz02HAIplHkEVpwt9JcmpWsKU/edit#gid=54782987 for me to be able to understand what some things do in the ship builder, its bad

[thin burrow]

I'm just fed up with BSG at this point. I started with Daggerfall and every single entry just feels more and more empty. Now we have Starfield which as all the depth of a dry mud puddle

[rapid yoke]

I was refering to the writers

[tepid wadi]

That's still a management problem. The writers all should be reporting to a lead writer/storyboard manager to make sure the story is good an interesting.

[rapid yoke]

If the main story was that bad, it's likely that it met leaderships bland vision, and blaming it on anyone else is pointless

[craggy egret]

That's not the point.. Modder's exist because games that miss on QoL, functionality or UI.. generally spend their own free time for nothing but a thanks... on improving good games.

But when an blatant disregard for gamers in general leads to the worst UX experience in the history of games ug.

OKay.. I gotta put my mod hat back on. But I'm triggered by talk of Starfield.

[upbeat aspen]

EXTREMELY hot take incoming, Skyrim is a tad overrated

[pale cove]

how's that hot 😂

[peak marsh]

When Starfield was first announced, my immediate thought was "what is this going to do that NMS doesnt?" My answer was "add a boring narrative"

[pale cove]

NMS near-nonexistant narrative is better

[upbeat aspen]

I'm not sure we disagree, did I miss something?

[craggy egret]

Frankly, I feel the story in NMS is actually quite nice.

[rapid yoke]

yeah bethesda's writing has never been anything special though, let's be real

[upbeat aspen]

People will kill ya over that lmfao

[craggy egret]

No.. just my internalized rage... lol

[pale cove]

FNV was okay, but thats also not bethesda so yeah 😂

[pale cove]

rose-tinted glasses people yes

[craggy egret]

Light No Fire, the follow up game from Hello World looks amazing.

[peak marsh]

I'd say so. It's there but it doesn't sit me down and force me to listen to it unless I seek it out

[upbeat aspen]

RIGHT!?!?! Just wish we don't have to wait so long

[thin burrow]

I saw that! I just hope private servers are a thing. I'm kinda burned out on MMOs at the moment

[upbeat aspen]

I like the story, but I prefer having a video essay on youtube walk me through it lol

[craggy egret]

I'm okay with the wait.. allows me to enjoy Enshrouded.. a few other games.. But it's definitely on the list of must watch out for.

[thin burrow]

Due to ESO, as it happens lol

[rapid yoke]

I think Light no Fire will also be bland and boring, but yeah it does look pretty

[craggy egret]

Fire, that's right..

lol

[upbeat aspen]

I think that they've learned a lot from their HORRIBLE NMS release

[peak marsh]

Also Hello Games, not Hello World, but I understand a programmer making that mistake xD

[upbeat aspen]

I'm convinced it'll be at the very least a decently enjoyable experience

[craggy egret]

Right Hello Games. 🙂

[rapid yoke]

So far it's main selling point is large world

[peak marsh]

5k hours of ESO burned me out on MMOs for the forseeable future

[rapid yoke]

and not gonna lie, large worlds are vast and empty

[craggy egret]

Let's hope.. though to their credit.. even with NMS having a pretty bad release.. they had enough there to keep people interested and paying attention through the updates.

[thin burrow]

Yup. I was on since 2015, finally bowed out last summer. I was so bored

[peak marsh]

Ah, so you stuck it through during the rough patch

[craggy egret]

NewWorld did me in on MMO's largely.

[peak marsh]

[craggy egret]

I did, only because I really liked the space flying simulator.

[thin burrow]

Yeah, when Vet levels were still a thing and Craglorn was a NO-GO zone if you were solo

[upbeat aspen]

I played at initial release, then didn't touch it for like 1.5 years

[rapid yoke]

I palyed wow classic hardcore for a bit, that was fun

I cant do MMOs anymore though

[craggy egret]

ooh so did I ..

[thin burrow]

So did we all lol

[upbeat aspen]

I just don't have the time

[rapid yoke]

If they created a world you could just log onto and do whatever in without feeling a need for some massive time investment, I'd consider one

[upbeat aspen]

I'm doing college work for 45ish hours a week, and work work about 25 hours a week

[craggy egret]

I'm an original WoW player.. from Closed Beta to WOTLK, then stopped for a minute.. came back for Classic and did raiding and World Boss fighting for a while.. then did Classic HC

[rapid yoke]

I was on defias pillager

Did a bit of raiding with HC elite

eventually quit

never died (well once at 13)

[thin burrow]

The upshot being, I don't think I'll buy Light No Fire if it's strictly an MMO.

[rapid yoke]

Money saved!

[thin burrow]

Yup lol

[rapid yoke]

These days I gotta really want a game to buy it, unless my friends wanna player it

[timber prism]

This was just setting yourself up for disappointment. I dont recall them ever stating it was going to be a sim game. I thought they just stated its a space themed RPG.

Nothing about that engine made me think simulation

[craggy egret]

Clearly I was incorrect. Lol

[timber prism]

haha. It happens! Its easy to build hype for genres you are excited about. I had that happen to me with CP2077 but it was a mix of not tempering expecations with false promises of features on their end.

[upbeat tangle]

As a matter of fact, there were some statements about it having a lot more sim-ish features/mechanics that got scrapped in development. I think there’s even been some evidence of cut stuff found in the games code by modders.

[timber prism]

Hrmmm got any links?

I didnt see anything like the sorts mentioned in that 15 minute gameplay reveal they last year

[upbeat tangle]

https://www.pcgamer.com/starfield-data-miners-uncover-fossilized-remains-of-a-much-cooler-more-hardcore-game-tucked-away-in-its-files-we-had-a-washed-version-of-the-game/

and here’s the Reddit thread that originally led me to that article: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/19503n4/starfield_data_miner_uncovers_fossilized_remains/

[timber prism]

ty

Well thats a bummer haha.. I guess they went the route of Amazon and changed the game during development. That makes sense why none of the survival mechs were talked about during the gameplay reveal.

[upbeat tangle]

Yeah, I think there were a few Howard interviews where he hinted at the difficulty the game could’ve had but said that internally testers didn’t think it was “fun” so, who knows what we could’ve had or if it would’ve helped at all in the end.

I personally got 150+ hours from the game as it is (a lot of ship customizing) but felt the story was ultimately very weak and the gameplay didn’t lend itself to much replayability even with the NG+ “twist”.

[timber prism]

All of my issues regarding Starfield weren't with sim/survival mechanics so it wouldn't have changed much for me haha

[upbeat tangle]

Same, for the most part

[timber prism]

I made it to around 40-50 hours before I just stopped altogether

[thin burrow]

I didn't even get that far

[timber prism]

I didnt make it to NG+ but i know all about the "twist"

[thin burrow]

What I really wanted was Fallout 4 Settlements in space.

I should just stick to modding FO4 with Sim Settlements 2 and call it a day

[timber prism]

I personally would have preferred 100 currated planets that had unique fun stuff to do over the 1000 planets they chose

[upbeat tangle]

I’ll keep holding on to my hope that TES6 is going to be good. But Starfield really hurt my optimism.

[timber prism]

Yeah... I have zero expectations on TES6 to be any good after playing Starfield haha

I do wish them well though and look forward to seeing what it ends up looking like. Probably watch a few streams before I try it out myself.

[thin burrow]

I've given up on TE6 altogether

[peak marsh]

TBF people said the same thing about TES after Oblivion and Skyrim went on to take a majority stake of the known universe

[thin burrow]

If they don't learn from BG3, TE6 will be dead on arrival

[peak marsh]

That and Starfield. One glaring issue is creation engine. I know it's Todd's baby but they really need to get something more contemporary, or at least with new bugs and glitches to enjoy

[rapid yoke]

I assume they are honestly using a new engine for TES6 and that is why it is taking remarkably longer

but we'll see

[upbeat tangle]

I’d hope so but Bethesda does what Bethesda do… sometimes they make weird choices.

[thin burrow]

I don't know that they've ever not made weird choices. Daggerfall is deeply strange in some ways, especially when it released. It was just that at the beginning, they worked out. They were new, innovative choices. But now the rest of the industry are actually innovating, while BSG is still making weird choices, but bland ones, which is not exactly an improvement.

[peak marsh]

Well, and it's worth remembering that for every Daggerfall there's a Battlespire or Redguard

Maybe TES6 will be amazing and Starfield will just be another footnote like those are

Not if they don't update their writing staff and keep them off Twitter, but still xD

[thin burrow]

Are you familiar with Matt Colville at all? He's a TTRPG guy now, the founder of MCDM games. But he started doing youtube videos while he was the head writer at a gaming studio for a game called Evolve. He did several videos explaining that having actual writers in a gaming studio was not the norm, and it usually shows.

[peak marsh]

I'll have to look those up, the name doesn't ring a bell but I remember Evolve. Also the point about gaming studios not usually having actual writers makes total sense considering that outside of a few outliers most games have the plot and exposition equivalent of a bad 90s comic book

[upbeat tangle]

I really like Matt Colville - he’s helped push me to be a better GM and player in my TTRPGs

[thin burrow]

Same. I've backed all the MCDM kickstarters and they make really good stuff. Can't wait to give their new TTRPG system a spin!

[quaint ember]

@rapid yoke Just to keep people happy, can you share the price in this channel? (if you have it)

[rapid yoke]

Pretty sure they said 29.99

I also think Nightingale is shooting for that as well

[quaint ember]

Ah nice. It is roughly the going rate.

[rapid yoke]

Right

I'd expect this game to be too

at least for EA

[quaint ember]

Most likely.

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/wHwhCElHWac?si=VgAqCzEbbxl_o9h-

[neon sleet]

Is that on steam?

[misty arch]

yes but not out yet

comes out the 19th

[upbeat tangle]

If Craftopia was any indication - Palworld won't change everything; just be a cool toy for a bit but ultimately broken.

[rapid yoke]

craftopia always seemed a bit subpar

[upbeat tangle]

I thought the idea was interesting - take a bunch of random crap from the genre and throw it into a game that doesn't take itself too seriously but, it was a bad gaming experience that got worse the more you played it.

[honest valley]

craftopia is why i wait and see with palworld

[upbeat tangle]

Palworld could be interesting and the idea of the gritty pokemon-esque thing is "fun" but, Im not gonna hold my breath at all.

[peak marsh]

To me Palworld just seems like a scattergun of ideas, with no cohesive theme outside of "pokemon but guns". IDK maybe they can make that work

[rapid yoke]

I mean that is kind of the problem, if you just throw a bunch of systems together and they don't blend with any real purpose, you really just made a meh game.

Like kinda worried about enshrouded long term for this tbh, but it will depend on how well implemented crafting is long term

[peak marsh]

Im not so worried with Enshrouded. Between building and trying different character builds I think there's plenty of replayability to be had

But then again I love build tinkering so I may have a skewed perspective

[rapid yoke]

Less about replayability, but more how well integrated systems are to progression

and not just like the "killed a boss, now the next place" either, but truly like wanted to bring resources back to craft all sorts of things before moving forward

Chest loot just seems so plentiful

[neon sleet]

So I was playing Terraria
And made a house in the underground, with the bottom filled with a little lava.
Moved the guide in and summoned wall of flesh.

One Hard Mode later

Going over the stuff I'll need to start building when the guide moves in.
And dies.
WoF summoned again.
I'm like "wait... did he spawn back in the... oh crap"
So I rush down the hellivator but can't get to the house in time before WoF catches up n kills me.

No biggie, I'll just go now to...
Scott the Guide has arrived
Oh crap oh sht oh...
Scott the Guide was slain. Wall of Flesh has awoken
Did I just... softlock myself?

Long story short it happened 6 more times, me trying to race back to the house to destroy it before wall killed me.

Eventually I realized guide was spawning faster than wall was despawning.
So I waited for him to spawn, changed his home to a spare I had. Died to the wall. Guide then spawned back at base.
Mission update: make sure we don't go through that sht again
Stormed into the underground and B-lined it to the house and broke the furniture.
Then blew up the house for good measure.
A sigh of relief. I am finally free from the nightmare.

Rare enemy nearby: Voodoo Demon
You have GOT to be kidding me.
-turn off minions, teleport back to spawn
-looks left, right, listens.
Is it over?
-sigh of relief-
The Blood Moon has Arrived
MotherFU

And that's how my latest Hardmode Terraria world started.

[sullen crane]

I’m ready for blue protocol and The first descendant

https://tenor.com/view/blue-protocol-dance-emote-rpg-gif-17471697

[unique panther]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-comp-cringe-shrek-shrek-cringe-compilation-snap-gif-11981937

XD

[amber lagoon]

I just built this pc a bit over a month ago

and its performance still astonishes me

60 fps with giga boosted minecraft shaders, with both discord and my browser running at the same time

in a modpack with almost 400 mods

my old pc wouldnt even be able to run the modpack >.>

much less everything else

[tepid wadi]

That'll always be amusing to me though, modpacks or no.
"I just built this awesome godlike computer that wasn't even possible a year ago."
"What are you going to play on it?"
"Minecraft."

[peak marsh]

It's the new "...But does it run Doom?"

[timber prism]

Haha

[honest valley]

but blue protocol got censored and delayed in the west by amazon ....

japan has had it for months now

[timber prism]

They probably don't want to risk bans

I played JP for a while. It was decent

[amber lagoon]

the first descendant probably isnt going to get very far ngl

[sullen crane]

Lol

[hallow oracle]

My Wishlist will soon become shorter

[sullen crane]

What is bell wright

[hallow oracle]

from the makers of ARK possibly something to avoid

[rapid yoke]

bellwright looks pretty meh

[sullen crane]

Pal world looks fun

They started showing gameplay

[rapid yoke]

It looks somewhat fluid

Which is good

It will be one of the more unique takes in the space and I praise them for it

[quaint cosmos]

I would only look into the top 3 of the list though. The rest I'm not sure about.

[sturdy otter]

What else are you sure about

[ashen garden]

I played the alpha of Nightengale, it was "ok" 😐

[rapid yoke]

I heard a lot of that Wildcherry

Like the testing folks are saying the game put them off actually wanting it

Which is sad

Hopefully they can pull it together by EA

[reef bobcat]

Called it lol

[rapid yoke]

I don't know enough about the game to comment, it didn't pull me in

[misty isle]

I enjoyed it for what it was, but it still has a long way to go.

but hell, I also wasted money on Return to Moria.. so what do I know! 😄

[rapid yoke]

We're all jonesing for a good game Bor

won't lie, I was poking around last night and really there just isn't much out there

Maybe it's good that 2024 will be the year of the crafting games

that way we can snag a few gems out of the 100 new additions

[misty isle]

Aye, I'm in the same boat, hell, I just want something to tide me over for the next 9 days, but I find myself going back to Siege, as nothing else grabs me xD

[timber prism]

@misty isle do you like old school mmos?

[misty isle]

Some yes, I'm fairly picky. xD

[timber prism]

Ravendawn Online starts tomorrow I believe

[misty isle]

I recently went back to City Of Heroes, which is 20 years old, does that count? xD

[timber prism]

Its a 2D mmo that has tradepavks so its like Archeage

Should be fun to go around a kill people for packs to turn in

And*

[misty isle]

ooh, I'll check it out! thanks for the tip!

[timber prism]

Np

TTK doesn't look bad so decent room for skilled group play

Pick 2 archetypes to make a class

[peak marsh]

Survival builder mixed with village sim. You build a village and control NPCs inside of it and build up for when the army comes to attack you

I'm mildly interested because I love sims and building, but I'm waiting to see how it actually works out

[old hill]

have you guys seen on steem Tiny Glade might be a good castle creator for ideas in enshrouded

[reef bobcat]

Looks relaxing

[craggy wing]

Top 5 Steam wishlist, go

[rapid yoke]

Literally my only two XD

[craggy wing]

Keeping it simple. I like it

[quaint cosmos]

my top 5

[craggy wing]

Never heard of elements

[quaint cosmos]

its a single player or local co op split screen adventure game of getting 8 elemental gems. You can craft, build, upgrade gear and weapons, I think. I'm not sure about level system, but it looks nice for an RPG.

[edgy pine]

Thats my Jam!

[quaint cosmos]

I would have played Oath a few years ago if it was real, but thankfully I didn't pay money since it was a scam and didn't exist. Elements is the closest game to looking and playing like Oath.

[craggy wing]

Sounds interesting. What's the perspective of the player/game? Like, is it isometric, third person?

[quaint cosmos]

3rd person action combat.

[craggy wing]

No Enshrouded. Riot

[peak marsh]

No Bomb Rush Cyberfunk. Bigger riot

[craggy wing]

Ooooh, I'm gonna look at it right now

[rapid yoke]

avowed may be on my list eventually Angie, I keep forgetting it exists

[thin burrow]

I added it to my wishlist so I'd stop forgetting about it 😂

[rapid yoke]

[peak marsh]

Dude. Bomb Rush Cyberfunk is literally Jet Set Radio 3. It's kind of amazing and the soundtrack is actually amazing xD

[thin burrow]

It also keeps me from impulse buying games I won't play. I add it to the wishlist and if I come back to it in like a month and I can't remember what I liked about it, it gets removed. I've saved a shitton of money that way

If the ADHD gets TOO out of hand and I need a dopamine hit, I'll go download some Sims 4 CC to get the shopping rush without the price tag lol

[craggy wing]

We need more wishlists

Lemme see what you people want to play

[rapid yoke]

What's that other game that's coming out eventually this year that is a super colorful survival/craft game

[craggy wing]

Tell me about Lost Skies

[rapid yoke]

yeah that one I don't recognize and was gonna ask the same thing

[upbeat aspen]

It's based off one of their previous games, Worlds Adrift, one of my top 3 fav games of all time

[upbeat aspen]

The servers shut down after about a year due to low player numbers, so since it shut down years ago, I've been praying they'd bring it back

[thin burrow]

Nightingale? Or that Pal one?

[rapid yoke]

nah further out angie

like very vibrant colors

looks like its sent in a tropicalish world

[upbeat aspen]

Now they are doing a coop version with a story instead of the previous sandbox pvp game

Basically you play as air pirates, building your flying "pirate ship" to floating islands, and fighting other flying "pirate ships"

[craggy wing]

Also never heard of this one

[rapid yoke]

Under a Rock

That's the one I was thinking of

[upbeat aspen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uKrQYp_sao
The farewell video, makes me lowkey heartbroken every time, SUCH a good song too

It was made by the people who made surgeon simulator and I am fish

[rain flare]

Yeah it was a pretty good game but they had issues with spatial os and didn't want to commit the resources to fixing the game

[quaint cosmos]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1468110/Elements/

[languid fiber]

I've put Enshrouded in second place on my wish list.

[upbeat aspen]

Traitor

[thin burrow]

It's second on my list too 😂

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/PuaFdvysulU?si=UaQ4Khc2Hkstm3nZ

[craggy wing]

Darktide is a great game if you like co-op FPS

Vermintide 2 is also great. And it has more content than Darktide at this point. It's also in active development still - they are just going to start a closed alpha for the versus mode

[sullen crane]

Pal world is now number 8

Passing enshrouded

[craggy wing]

That's something that it will solve itself by the 19th

[languid fiber]

Traitor? me? nah you got the wrong person lol.

[languid fiber]

I never played co-op FPS before so I have it on my wish list in case I have money one day and check it out.

[craggy wing]

Hmm, I would suggest starting with Deep Rock Galactic, then :D

[rapid yoke]

mercy, you gonna stream Palworld for us?

[sullen crane]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk-anime-lucy-cyberpunk-edgerunners-smoking-gif-26712687

I will probably be joining a official server and joining a guild

[rapid yoke]

I just don't feel like it's a game I want, but would be interested in seeing some of the loop. I'm sure I'll find someone to watch!

[short sail]

Starting on building my big castle.

[sturdy otter]

Oh hell yeah

[rapid yoke]

my village is coming along too:

[sturdy otter]

Oh word

[short sail]

Oh. Which game?

[rapid yoke]

these bean stalks are wild

This is farthest frontier

little city builder by the grim dawn guys

That gate looks really cool Vanolia

Like premium set up

[sturdy otter]

Nice

[rapid yoke]

and mels got the island valheim vibes

viking fiji

[short sail]

I just want now a big castle to be with my riches. I'll go full Wario with my spoils.

[rapid yoke]

not waluigi?

[sturdy otter]

Just a really big deck

[short sail]

Waluigi is more of the poor neighbour xD

[sturdy otter]

We also have the Michael J Lox Memorial Sanctuary

[rapid yoke]

LOL

[short sail]

But in fact, we cannot say, because Waluigi was never fleshed out I guess?

[rapid yoke]

It looks good

[sturdy otter]

Nah it looks terrible

[rapid yoke]

No better way to herd lox than a massive pit

[sturdy otter]

We had big plans at the time

[short sail]

Natural pit for monstrous beasts

[rapid yoke]

I build a super large dope looking enclosure for lox over a pit

they still kept breaking the door

Worst animal

[sturdy otter]

They do be breaking

In the second playthrough, we just tamed them free range

[rapid yoke]

as long as they are far enough away yeah

much smarter

no bat raids to kill them off

[sturdy otter]

Away from what

Oh yeah word

I mean you might lose one here or there

😩

[rapid yoke]

Man, lox riding was so bad

[sturdy otter]

Lox riding is the real reason I bought the game

I wish I was kidding

[rapid yoke]

are you happy with your lox riding?

[sturdy otter]

Meh I didn't really do it enough

So much going on

We didn't use them to battle or anything

[rapid yoke]

Man I thought it was terribly implemented

[sturdy otter]

It wasn't easy

[rapid yoke]

They had a chance to have a really good, fun system and just said "nah, here's this I gues"

[sturdy otter]

Lol

[short sail]

Yea... I'm also not really buying the riding aspect.

Anyway. I finally got to figure out, how to make a staircase in a semi-round tower.

[rapid yoke]

Nice, one of the trickier valheim moves

[timber prism]

game looks pretty fun

[spring raptor]

I'm cautiously optimistic. The fact that every preview video so far is either completely scripted or heavily edited does give me pause. Hopefully we will see some real gameplay before launch.

[timber prism]

im watching a stream atm

https://www.twitch.tv/crown1427

i watched that streamer fly in and fight that pal

there are ground mounts too and you can fight and use their abilities while riding them haha

[rapid yoke]

Man that really turned me off from the game, I hope it does well, but it is now definitely not for me

[timber prism]

I am here for it.. these pals look so adorable

mounted combat is sweet

[rapid yoke]

Sick, glad they have an audience! For what it's worth, neither of those things were what put me off 🙂

[timber prism]

i mean.. who doesn't like adorable things and mounted combat

i would hope they wouldn't XD

[shy oasis]

@rapid yoke do you still play core keeper btw?

[rapid yoke]

I don't

I think it is a great game, but I've kinda wrapped the content too many times

[shy oasis]

Hmm understandable

[rapid yoke]

The crystal biome wasn't enough to bring me back

great game though, always recommend

[shy oasis]

I feel in love with the game but now it’s just a bit boring if you know your way around

Through the caves

[rapid yoke]

I definitely know my way around that game XD

[shy oasis]

I’ll play it again if we get more updates and content
Too repetitive

Did you decorate much?

[rapid yoke]

That was my last world before I logged back in for the crystal biome

I did do some decoration

[shy oasis]

Oh no

My eyes

xD

You love marking your things

[rapid yoke]

Those were all ore nodes

This was the base I was working on before I quit too

did you end up putting together a bunch of stuff?

[shy oasis]

Has potential! Maybe - one day - you’ll finish it (is it finished?)

[shy oasis]

I was fully into decorating and even decorated for other people on the server

and then my motivation left me and now my world looks like a shit show

[rapid yoke]

It was very very far from finished, it was gonna be a volcano island with little parks around it representing each biome

[shy oasis]

With good elements

[shy oasis]

If you finish it at some point I expect you to show me lol

[rapid yoke]

I probably wont

but if I build something here I'll let you know!

[shy oasis]

🤝

I can’t show you screenshots rn of some of my good base areas

#work

[rapid yoke]

i had to go to their discord to dig those up

but yeah share away when you can access them!

[shy oasis]

If there would be more to work with, I might just go for creative mode

I will

Only if you’re interested though

You might couldn’t care less

[rapid yoke]

nah I love seeing others peoples work

[shy oasis]

Alright

I’ll do that maybe later today

[rapid yoke]

feel free to tag in case chat gets wild I can find it

or dm, whichever

[shy oasis]

Looking forward to just waste time on enshrouded while building stuff

[rapid yoke]

god i know

[shy oasis]

Noted sir!

[rapid yoke]

nothing else is satisfying right now gaming wise

literally nothing

[shy oasis]

😦

Yep

Nothing excites me anymore

[rapid yoke]

Even my weekly game nights are just "yeah this game is whatever, hey two weeks!"

[shy oasis]

So truly looking forward to spending time on this game

[shy oasis]

Filling the void with other games

[rapid yoke]

a friend is trying to get me through outerwilds, which is a lovely game if you haven't played, but can't really do more than a few runs a day before I just need something else

[shy oasis]

It was on my wishlist at some point

Game hopping

Huh

[rapid yoke]

doing my best to stay sane in these dark times

[shy oasis]

Good luck with that!

I lost faith

[rapid yoke]

I won't say I'm far off XD

[shy oasis]

Ehm

You got this 💪🏼 || probably not ||

Also

https://store.steampowered.com/app/973810/Journey_To_The_Savage_Planet/

Steam

Journey To The Savage Planet

Onward to AdventureWELCOME TO THE PIONEER PROGRAM! As the newest recruit of Kindred Aerospace - The 4th best interstellar space exploration company - Your job is to determine if the planet ARY-26 planet is fit for humans. You may be short on equipment and experience, but good luck!Play with a friend Play solo or online with a friend. If you have...

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

4403

Metacritic

76

▶ Play video

This was pretty fun

[neon sleet]

How about a sequel?

[rapid yoke]

Gives subnautica in space vibes

[shy oasis]

Hmm didn’t play that one
But you can slap cute little alien monsters and they get yeeted into the sky
Or slap your duos butt

[rapid yoke]

perfect

there is nothing more needed in a game really

[shy oasis]

Right?

Gameplay is fun too ofc
But wouldn’t buy it for full price

[amber lagoon]

hmm interesting

I dont really jive with that music though

[misty arch]

https://youtu.be/PWlLOpqIYjA?si=yW_as3brliIH12cO

[boreal mirage]

IXION was solid as well if you enjoy base buildy survival stuff

amazing soundtrack as well, perfect i'd almost say

(if you like space pipe organ)

[peak marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35vgcakBClc

[finite saffron]

Force's ability to pump out videos on literally every single game ever made will never cease to amaze me

[rapid yoke]

We're all waiting you to pump out videos on one game, so yeah I can see why you think every game is a challenge XD

[finite saffron]

[tepid wadi]

Sick burn

[rapid yoke]

Hmm cult of the lamb is on sale

[tepid wadi]

I hear it was good, didn't pick it up though. If you like Roguelikes, Tiny Rogues just got a bit update a bit ago and apparently it's great

[rapid yoke]

too late, it's already be boughted

[timber prism]

Been playing Tiny Rogues the past couple days and its fun

[tepid wadi]

Yeah, it's a good one

[timber prism]

Cult of the Lamb is okay

I had fun with it but totally forgot about this new update other than the way it came about XD

what is your fav class in Tiny Rogues?

i have just been playing the ranger and the basic mage one

i was very close on winning my very first playthrough but choked on like the 8th boss i think XD

[tepid wadi]

I feel like I liked the main fighter class, but I don't really remember tbh, I haven't played it in quite a while

[hushed vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35vgcakBClc

uh oh

doesnt look goooood

[short sail]

Uh? That video... I know it. Wait. If I scroll up...

[hushed vector]

no Quinfall

it keeps getting worse and worse for me

my hopes

going down gg

[short sail]

I... I mean that video has been posted before. If you scroll a bit up...

[hushed vector]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[hushed vector]

sucks Im losing hope in this game

I was trying look for you to talk about this XD

[craggy wing]

A friend just showed me this game. Looks incredible!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2178070/Towers_of_Aghasba/

Steam

Towers of Aghasba

Towers of Aghasba is an open-world fantasy experience where players must balance between constructing bustling villages for their growing tribe and nurturing exotic ecosystems of otherworldly plant life. Express your creativity by developing your island however you’d like, explore the whimsical land of Aghasba, and connect with friends to show o...

Release Date

Coming soon

▶ Play video

[short sail]

👉 👈 Awww... No one has taken my bait #enshrouded-chat message.

[misty arch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayrVeyyLifs

[quaint cosmos]

thanks for the link. I was wondering if the gameplay was worth it, and it feels average. I am glad to see the 3rd person mode as an option to help see my surroundings better. I may give it a chance if it gets released later.

[peak marsh]

Yeah, it's looking more and more like a no-go

[reef bobcat]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=35vgcakBClc&si=sViYnlfH4wwA6cI-

[peak marsh]

That video is getting more traction than snow chains in august

[reef bobcat]

Most of the assets seem to have not been available for sale since 2016. With their statement of being developed for 3 years. Please don’t jump in immediately.

[mighty robin]

I love ForceGaming.

[peak marsh]

That's the third time that videos been posted today xD Also agreed, smells like a hot scam

[reef bobcat]

I worry some folks will take the wrong lesson from tdb

[sullen crane]

[quaint cosmos]

Oath had asset store objects in their MMO (trailer, never made it to release), before it was shut down over a grass asset.

[kindred bane]

https://youtu.be/PFQIxrzhxds

[boreal mirage]

i wanted to clear that co-op on on ps4/5 never happened sadly

[shy oasis]

Maybe on pc then?!

[boreal mirage]

but i hate buying stuff twice T_T

[shy oasis]

Understandable :/

But you could also play it solo if you don’t mind

[boreal mirage]

I'll get ther eone day sniffle ONE DAY! Thankfully i have entirely too many games to clear as-is, let alone all these bangers coming out

[hushed vector]

I was actiually getting pissed off

[candid quiver]

Just gonna post a few pics from worlds/maps ive built in a game called TU

you start with a blank grassfield, so its all done from scratch with primitive shapes like scalable cubes, cylinders, spheres and ingame items like trees and vegetations and such

This world/map is called "The Chillaxie Island", it has a main quest, and 3 optional areas to explore in any order. Jungle, mountains and down in the sewers.

Mossy Frogpond, an subarea within the large jungle

From within the jungle

A sewers maze area

(Not the reflective sewers maze ^^)

This is a part of another worldmap i made, "The chillaxie undercaves", this is from the desert city area ^^

And this is from the chillaxie undercaves, right after entering them. the desert area is far further ahead, behing 3 other areas with quests to complete until getting there ^^

And this is from the upper-platue snowarea of the undercaves ^^

Library puzzle place, objective there is to find 4 different books among them all :p ^^

This is from a third semi-openworld map, the dark unease. this is the toxic swampforest.

• I tried to find a pic from the reflective sewers maze, but haven't.
  Imma stop the spam now

thanks for the patience ❤️

[strong merlin]

New beta of Sunkenland is pretty fun.

Excited to see what mods are made for it once dedicated servers are released.

[clever halo]

Sunkenland is great and they are constantly working on improvements. I love how the devs communicate regularly.

[sullen crane]

Top 5 !!

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-wait-a-minute-battle-valkyrie-warrior-gif-17932453

[craggy egret]

Satisfactory is amazing, and Coffee Stain Studios is one of my favorites. I miss you Jace.

If you liked Satisfactory or Factorio, I have fallen for Techtonica.

[upbeat tangle]

I love Satisfactory, am a huge fan of Factorio, but Techtonica hasn't gotten its claws in me yet. I probably havent given it a totally fair shake though.

[sturdy otter]

I haven't played Factorio but I've thought about it a few times

I'm gonna have to really consider it now

[upbeat tangle]

Factorio wasn't the "original" automation game but it might as well have been - and its getting a massive update soon.

[craggy egret]

The last major update that came out, which included their base building.. really brought a great game to the table.

[upbeat tangle]

I'll need to go back and check it out more then! I didn't even know they had a new update of that size.

[craggy egret]

So.. I'm not a fan of the Space update coming to Factorio, but that's because I'm a major FActorio player.. and.. for a while did the Krastorio2 + Space Exploration mods... which was neat.. and I liked it.. but... my god some serious grinding. And hearing that the update for Factorio is basically Space Exploration watered down.. I'm... I dunno.. meh.

[upbeat tangle]

I come from a different approach - Ive been playing Factorio for years and have never touched any of the mods. I knew there was a space mod out there and liked the idea but just didn't want to fuss with it. Now that something similar is getting baked into the game, Im excited to see how expansive it gets AND to see what the modders do with it.

[craggy egret]

No you don't understand.. Space Exploration mod is amazing.

And the guy that is developing the Space update for Factorio.. is the same dev.. but he's openly said that it won't be the same mod.. and that part has me.. sad.

[upbeat tangle]

I had actually forgotten it was the same guy.

So, I guess the crux of what Im saying is that once its baked into the game, even if its not the same as the mod currently is, I'm excited to see what other modders do with that; how much taller can modders build their tower if the tower they're starting from is in space?

Regardless, Im excited to see/play the final product.

[craggy egret]

Yeah I'm am excited to see what they do with it.. but.. yeah.

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-373

There's a mod for that Earendel

A lot of people are going to make comparisons between the Space Age expansion and the Space Exploration mod. I've worked on the game design for both: On Space Age I made the first space + planets prototype builds and plus I've been involved in most of the gameplay discussions since. On Space Exploration, well it's my mod, I made it.

I think that makes me the most qualified to talk about how these two things are very different from the ground up. Sure there's some overlap in the broader topics: you go to space, you visit planets; but these similarities end up being fairly superficial when all of the decisions along the way are made with different design goals:

Target Audience: Space Exploration is targeted at a small set of challenge-seekers, it's not for everyone by design. Space Age is targeted at all Factorio players with better approachability in mind.
Game Length: Space Exploration is a long-form adventure designed for players to gradually uncover many interconnected challenges over 150-500 hours (or more). Space Age challenges are more streamlined and self-contained for a faster pace of 60-100 hours (rough estimate).

Complexity: Space Exploration challenges ramp up to a very high difficulty towards the end. Some of the last challenges cannot be automated without a set of arithmetic combinators, so it is not expected that all players will be able to complete it. Space Age has a lot of different challenges but they never get too extreme and the usage of combinators is quite lightweight, so we expect that most players will be able to complete it.

Engine Support: There are so many things that Space Exploration just can't do because it's a mod. Space Age has very different capabilities because the game engine can be made to support it. Large parts of the expansion are focused on game mechanics that just aren't possible otherwise, so the gameplay will be unique and refreshing even if you're a Space Exploration veteran.

There are many more differences that will become apparent when we look at individual features of the expansion in upcoming FFFs.

[upbeat tangle]

Yeah, Ive read that previously.
That section under "Engine Support" is specifically what Im excited about.

Im not a super advanced player. For all of the hours Ive logged in the game, I tend to goof off and try new things so, I could see how someone who has put a lot of hours into the game and the more advanced mods might not be as excited.

[sullen crane]

https://wutheringwaves.kurogame.com/m/en/cbt?inviterCode=HB8_LmAg&adtag=ownlink

[timber prism]

https://vxtwitter.com/Repiteo/status/1747746176944820236

[rapid yoke]

@ocean cave I think there is a lot of room for players to get both, but these styles of games often demand a bit of your time. Palworld just doesn't sell me on their systems and combat feels somehow more shallow than enshrouded, with exploration being even less rewarding. However, I do think their ideas are really cool and they innovate the survival genre space well by bringing some colony/factory sim into the mix. I just wish they had styled their pals after ANY other franchise than pokemon or really brought their own art direction in on them. Even the ideas are just direct copies (111 pals, lucky pals, eggs/breeding pals), they could have designed a much more unique system there.

I can't dip much time into a Palworld, but I hope it is a great game and a ton of people love it

[timber prism]

those direct copies you mention are all features that make a mon game good

it would be even harder for it to be successful if it didnt feature all of that

[ocean cave]

psst there another game too coming on jan 25 > Fractured Veil

[timber prism]

shinies, breeding/eggs and over a hundred mons seems like a good idea imo

[ocean cave]

that one is base building too x.x too many games to choose from this month

[timber prism]

the next three months is crazy for all genres haha

[ocean cave]

mind sharing what amazing games are out next month?

[timber prism]

Granblue Relink for RPGs

FF7 Rebirth

Tekken 8 next week

Unicorn Overlord

[rapid yoke]

Games like fractured veil are needed to make games like Palworld and Enshrouded look good

[timber prism]

Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth

Helldivers 2

Last Epoch goes 1.0

Dragons Dogma 2 in March

Rise of the Ronin in March

those are all the ones im looking forward to

[obtuse scroll]

You guys are also missing Elden Ring's DLC looks to be releasing like 2/24 or 2/25. As long as the leaks and the changes in steam lead to that. (on the two year anniversary)

[timber prism]

Yeah.. that too if you like Elden Ring

[ocean cave]

Nightingale i might look at some streams to see if it's worth buying ... not much else on my list >.> i'm looking for new games though

[timber prism]

I didnt see any announcement for the DLC

so i didnt even think about it

[ocean cave]

Dragon’s Dogma 1 was good but how good is dogma 2 though

[timber prism]

we shall see.. it looks promising from the gameplay vids

[ocean cave]

i guess AAA don't release demos?

[obtuse scroll]

There was an accidental leak of a release of accessories in Elden Ring themes 'to correspond with the upcoming dlc' with a release date of the end of Feb...then they added something in steam without actually putting what the line is for. So chances are the DLC is coming out then

[timber prism]

I'll wait for an actual announcement but that is pretty cool

seems like a trustworthy leak?