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So them adding new buildings to the area is not important?
🥸
ofc it is, but what people do with the town... they can nuke them and build their own.
Let me give a solution: a second world where you have an altar near that said city you built in
Join that world, awe the architecture, collect the new notes and items etc. and go back to your world
My point is that any change can be important, depending who's asking the question and who's giving the answer.
A dev might hang a banner on a wall... they don't think it's important, but then it turns out to clash with something that someone has built... that person will then think it's important.
What you're asking for is not simple and easy.
For the thing that everything outside the altar range is oddly changed:
Dinkelburg
By the way, your english is perfectly fine ^^
Honestly, you should build with the expectation that it will be destroyed or be changed at some point in the development cycle
that was my thought when I build my base. I choosed a pretty empty and non important place cause I was Like ''ok, dev are going to make something here, for sure'' or ''ok If I have some friends who want to join my world and make their own quest, I cant build where something important is lootable or where a quest is given
it was mindmelting at first
i still think you can simplify the question with "is there anything new on this location that can block the player adventure" => yes patch note
no. no patch note.
but i hear you
and yes i pretty much do it now
What do you do if it’s not changed in this update but the next lol
You’re just talking in circles at this point
Spin me!
Again, the answer to that can be yes, so you move your base... then it turns out all that's changed is a wall has been added, or a door has been added or something... something that most wouldn't find important.
yes we are exchanging point of view. why the "what are you gonna do if..." stay back if you can't handle the discussion
Spin me right round baby!
…?
and it's part of the early access stuffs.
Maybe it would be great to mention it for everygame in their early access stage, but yep. Reality is that your constructions might be glitched or even destroyed in the future before the official release
I'm okay with it now. I've lost so many hours and rocks
Even after release, but the chances of that happening are significantly lower 😄
yup, it's kind of always well better marked when a released game doesn't want you to place something ... just... right... HERE
xD
Pretty much, yea 😄
but I can relate on the ''RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH'' feelings when it happens to you
Absolutely. The deflated feeling when you spend blood sweat and tears on something is real.
maybe you even skipped lunch at this moment...
Devs, you're great, but you've created traumas
gaming wolrd really prepared me for the rough part of adult's life
'''oh your convention papers has been lost''
no problem
bolck per block sir
we WILL do it together
anyway, 4 more days left before we see a wave of people comming here telling'' WTF where's half of my city ?????''
and we will be there to support the CMS
Spreadsheets online (Anyone that gets that, i feel your pain.) Is a very real lesson on 'If you cant afford to lose it, don't use it.'
spreadsheets ? I don't understand that word
Tables, graphs, numbers.
oh ok
It's a reference to a particular MMO space sim.
thanks for the info
can't wait for the day they deleted the pillar of creation so we can admire to many floatting stuff
I freacking need to pratice more of terraforming. It's hard to get the same renders as the rendered world cliffs and montains
What does it do?
Flame stuff
same vibe
It brings light to a darkened world
😈
But it helps with moderation
😮
did u start ur base?
You need to seem dumber than us, yup
The flame altar is a placeable that allows you to build a base and fast travel
It gives you a zone where you can build
you can upgrade this zone
it goes like a square, upside and downside
plus the around
I am waiting for the update if I am correct my location is gonna have an issue
how
and you can even make more altars feet with the existent one tho have a bigger place to build in
I may nave come across a trail of breadcrumbs that led me to believe the area I wasnt to use will change
👀

You can tell me where you’re building but I won’t tell you if it’ll be affected or not lol
evil!
I am reworking the dragon cave
I already see one problem here, it's a questable zone
you wont be able to do it again I think, with a new charachter I mean
I was informed by one of my contacts in the industry that I may want to hold off. I already started a bit its claimable land
By one of your 'contacts' So either someone in Keen, under an NDA or digging into files they technically shouldn't be? 😄
I wouldn’t be bragging that someone breached nda
Naw none of my dev freinds work for keen
It's typically an attempt to show off they know more than they should 😄
I wouldn’t be bragging that my friend broke nda lmao
And reasons like that are reasons we cant have nice things.
it's like all the gta VI channel that were ''ok the next GTA will be set in ''insert 3 city'' and when it drops on one they tolds they're like ''OH MY GOD I WASSO RIGHT I'M A MEDIUM''
I am serious lol no one i know works on this game
🫠
NDA's aren't bound to those 'working' on the game. So that still leaves that option open. The only other option is they've got information they shouldn't have in the first place ^^
good luck for the meeting tonight Keen AHAH
I’ve definitely been bound to an NDA on products I’ve worked on
hi, is the game now playable with 4gb vram?
'''well, INFO CHAT, someone rats''
Check recommend specs
I meant more in the sense of, they aren't only used for people working on a project ^^
My friends are all former devs I used to work with and we all kinda felt that area was meant for more than it is currently used for just alot of work went into the design for such a small payoff
hey, does someone know where i can find the reptiles for the reptile leather?
So guess work and speculation or literally making up as you go along 😄
blackmire
Swampy swamp.
You really can just get a feel for those kind of things if you work with them long enough
100% you can, but that does still mean it's guess work and speculation.
You originally made the statement as if you had insider information.
Anyway, food is calling, take care for now all!
I was actually just trying to joke around but yeah hence why i elaborated lol
Swamp puppies (;
😂
yesterday i bought bread .. and i picked up stale one .... XD
That is expected to get from store Called " Fresh"
I toasted an entire loaf of my friend’s bread once. He wasn’t amused.
Thought it was all stale
i hate toasts
how do i make the graphics not look blurry and well
kidna bad
i have max graphics on and at 1440p and it just doesnt look very great

(no offense)
i like them french toasts xD with cinemon
What specs is your PC? Looks amazing on mine
7900 XTX 7600x
the frames arent the problem :p
Weird, I'm a 3080 and it's pretty good looking. Had some early release hiccups where I couldn't get it to run very well but lately it's been fine
also the quality of stuff in the distance is TERRIBLE
No problem.
The farer I'm away my quality goes up.
If you zoom in on me it only gets worse
this way terrain and me can coexist.
Share a screen shot in https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1046840542006345841 ?
@tame seal yeah it does
do i maybe have some sort of upscaling enable without me knowing
Can you post a screenshot of what say... a wall looks like up close (Not nose close though)
Whats your graphic settings like?
Enshrouded has TWO diff upscaling/downscaling things.
One is the games own slider up topmost,
The second is done after via dlss or fsr, and depends on the quality option (perf, balanced, quality)
what is the json file for the settings called
Fsr2 usually comes across as a bit more blurry then dlss2,
While the internal topmost res-slider is a bit more unpredictable, should prolly be left 100% if not really needing to save perf.
Grfx drivers aa-settings vs games own can also give diff outcomes on perceived bluriness - unless its simply low lod textures due to being out of vram
does the game still have shared progression?
Yes and no.
Some quests are still shared across the server, others allow you to redo them yourself after others have already done them.
Attention please, the Hobbit mud wrestling event for this evening has been cancelled. That is all.
(we couldn't find any Hobbits. Elusive little buggers)
use some vukah!
does anybody know if there is an easy way to aquire anflamed sword
Random drop, I'm afraid. Loot gold chests.
So I've been doing some experimenting with bows and staves. It appears from experimentation and stopwatch tests that the stats on an equipped weapon don't actually activate at all unless the item is IN YOUR HAND, either by holding down Q to keep the ranged item ready, or having it in a slot on your bar and having that slot selected. Is that intentional? Having mana restore/spiritual on a staff, for onstance, doesn't really benefit you at all if it's not your active slot on your bar.
Best chances from the chest in the cave N of East Lapis, I found mine there after ~40-50 resets
waow dam
Seems the same for shields - Poison susceptability and shroud protection doesn't budge with equipping one of the wards or shield with poison protection. Does that only work when the shield is raised?
yeah, and you need lockpicks for that chest XD
There's another chest a little northeast of the sun temple east of Surat's Rest. No lockpick required.
Any of the Devs know the answer to my question? Are staves/bows/shields actually adding their stats to your character when equipped, or only when actively being held?
Only when actively being held
Doesn't seem super useful to have the "Equip" at all then.
is the enflamed sword diffrent from wailing sword?
I believe it's the high level version of the wailing sword. Same upgraded abilities, but the wailing sword is level 8.
gotcha
So what's the release date for U3 again? I don't have access to YouTube or Tiktok at the moment
Monday
Oh poggers I have that day off
Idk what else they're adding but honestly Armor Stands are all i want. Everything else added is just gravy.
I'd love if they introduced a lot more of their assets in to the crafting menu. Taller iron windows, secret sandstone/limestone door, metal jail doors, more clutter for shelves and the like, etc.
Door trims that match the stone you put them on not the ones we have lol
Would make it more simple, yeah.
has there been any talks about adding more Alters? Where im at rn, the current limit is 8
That is the current limit for all.
Think they mentioned a total of 16 by full release
Itching for the update.
You may have fleas
I do not, I checked.
Oh good, I’m glad to hear
permethrin ftw
oh no that stuff is far to toxic to cats.
Good morning
Best weather of the week. Humidity at 100%
ew
Better than warmth that I cannot get out of my bones. 
hot is awful humid is awful. I want Winter back.
Perhaps remove the bones?
We chose violence this morning (it’s 1am)
Winter ist humid + cold

If that'd be possible I'd do it, but that means I can never do gaming again.
My chef would find a way how I can work even in this state so...
I do really wonder with how much altars we may end up, given the fact that we have 1/3 of the map only by now.
yeah but it has the opposit effect in the cold.
It makes my bones shaking instead of melting. 
I love the cold. I wear short sleeves out in the snow.

Let's see.
I still doubt they brought what I wished for.
Thus I'm preparing myself to have a good ol' cry
I won't voice my concerns out loud but hey.
Mine is called World of Warcraft, the Pre Patch fight. 
i took a break from wow
i ll get back to it someday
i can t stay in a game for years
i always gotta change every few months
this new game i try has building but u gotta pay for cosmetics
at least for the cool ones
kinda..
Can understand that.
But after being in the comments section on the patch announcement yesterday, I feel like nothing can shake me anymore. Don't understand why many people care so much about the console release in Early Access... or say the last update was so bad.
Tbh.
On the one side complain about optimisation - on the other demanding console release.
The one should happen before console release. 
On the other hand, I just wonder what besides difficulty sliders and armor racks will be in
I mean, according to the updates name I'd anticipate at least 1-2 new enemies in the Shroud
people do not understand
they can t see the process behind
its always "i want" and stops to that
when i bought the game i made it clear for myself that i ll stick around Enshrouded for many years
on and off
it could go very well or it could go very bad
but i doubt it will go bad
You hoping for some h2o?
I hope an awful lot of bugfixes. Make my nemesis and archnemesis work.
Possibly a lot of smaller changes, but who knows. I think keen might have been cooking quite a bit and only has been given out some breadcrumbs so far
H2O in the shape of round objects that are made out of metal, yes
Also Good morning yall
Wheels
Hotwheels
Racing cars in Enshrouded
Lambos
I get you
I talk about coins. 
lol
Cars are not round shaped.
About the patch...
Assuming most of keens staff has had their holidays - which often happens in germany around the time of july-august, I just assume alot of small tweaks and fixes and maybe 2-3 selling points so far. Also, back into the Shroud just assumes for me that the sliders are what is the advertisement yet. I'd still hope for more enemy variety in the Shroud, especially Nomad and Kindlewastes area wise.
Maybe murder rabbids... But y'know. Wait and see.
Not cars! Wheels are round!
Jokes aside, this could be a valid point. Regardless of what it is. Still hyped, still happy. I think the fact that they are listening so closely to the community is one of the reasons this game is so good.
Im on vacation atm but when I come back I have 2 games I can play the fugg out of.
Since both have gotten an Update
morning
Morning
Morning Frog. 
Now that I see it.
Contest ends, so I guess Frog being busy making out with the devs who'll win
poor Froggy She will have busy day
Nah I will not bother the devs with this before the update, we‘ll announce the winners next week
That's reasonable
I want to know the jucy infos about the update x)
2 more days 🤞
More like 3 days
3 & 1/2
Something between 3 and 3.5 days
They release at 17:59. 
3 days and 7hour and 45 minutes and 36 Seconds
I want an update on that timer every 10m
here is 7bilion people and if every one of them will give you a Dollar or a euro you would be a rich?
Pretty sure Embervale has less people and still no coins.
Runs and stomps in circles.

I might have melted all the coins to create my army
Then we'll have an epic war with each other. But I warn you. I've got a fridge magnet and I know how to use it
I have some hungry dudes
i personally would have set the release before the weekend maybe keep that in mind fpr the future ;D
for
Releasing on a Friday is never a good idea
I'd release in 2 weeks.
Nah just don't release it 
There is no good reason for the company to do it on a friday.
Nor for players to wish it on a Friday
Oh no, for the players i can understand wanting it on a friday. They just wont be happy when it goes ass up and there's no one there to fix it over the weekend ^^
what there is no reason for players exept that they have time to play it on a weekend lol
Read the above ^^
Wanting sure but most aren't aware of bugs that could make stuff interesting
As i say, they wont be happy ^^
No and just cry around xD
Eh...
Screenshot Contest is now over, right? Or are people still allowed to submit entrys and that will be extended?
Wouldn't it be Cest? Since we don't have wintertime rn
It does
Midnight Germany time 😄
CET is wintertime and CEST is summertime (MEZ/MESZ in german)
You learn something new every day
^^
I learned that some bus drivers have it out for me
one of them drove past me so close that he almost ripped off my mirror while I was standing still. Not much was missing. I sat inside and parked neatly. 
Oh. Sorry. Totally misread that. 
Anyway. I may be forgiven because you learned something new. 
No problem!
We should blame Toast for using the 12h clock xD
ayyy enjoy
And before someone asks, my stead only has one saddle. 🤠
Then don't fall from your horse
anyone else wonder what wea re gonna get in patch besides diff scaling
Hopefully a durability increase for weapons. It's been one of my biggest annoyances since starting.
Carry a second good weapon and just search for anvils
Or do the "back and forth recall"
I know there are 'solutions.' I haven't found a second weapon comparable to my first, so I have to do recalls. It's annoying and degrades my enjoyment of the game. 🤷♂️
The construction hammer and my staff has joined....
So, about weapons... According to the wiki, you can't really craft them?
You can craft weapons. But more often then not. It is basic stats weapons. And usually what you find of weapons in chests are better.
Pain.
It takes a little while but there are some pretty good weapons you can find early on.
just got the game and ngl I'm starting to get pretty pissed off by the stamina system
me when I fall off a climbing wall because my 70% stamina wasn't enough apparently
but the game doesn't have a climbing system... you are getting pissed off cuz you cant wall jump? 🤣
You can improve that by investing in dexterity
stamina food, and stamina potions
ahh the ones with the net, fair enough, i forgot about those ahahah
There are a fair bit of limitations in the beginning.
yeah that's what im saying. it's not a great experience. many will just say "this sucks" and stop playing
the general trope of "it gets better if you just push yourself through the bad part" is just bad
I've forgotten how many times it took me to calculate the amount of stamina needed to swing from the grapping hooks.
.....
Never played a game where stamina is crucial have you?
Because with most of those it does infact improve over time.
i have, but there's games that do it well and theres games that dont
not being able to have the permanent ability to sprint is just not good in my opinion
I hope you realise that this game is also not complete. It is still in early access
of course
I'm not saying it's a bad gane
I am just voicing my opinion on what I find not great
i also dont like how much it takes to cast something
i mean playing mage is fun but casting those spells are sometimes too long
any notes on how big Update 3 will be?
Update good
pls specifi resistance is futile 😄
;D
Spent all night on my entrance. This project may be too big.
So its either water, townnpcs or a biome expansion as a big surprise you say? ^^
The surprise is...
||Update.||
Could be anything, could even be a catastrophic event that unleashes a virus that only the Vukah are susceptible to and they’re all wiped out.
Pft, vukahs are immune due to constant miremud baths ^^
But you didn’t hear the leaks from me
Lol, i will contact the gaming websites right now!
What if prim says the truth?
The eradication of the Vukah will pave the way for a stable economic system. And possibly…
coins
Last time humans tried to have stable economy... elixir wells, and shroud and death to the lands!
Not their best decision.
Vukah are just guys who don’t get haircuts, sorry to tell you
Deus Vult!
Don't copy me kids.
Anyway... Time to choose between specs.
With hunger being added.. ||You may be able to eat some delicious|| grilled ||vukah||
I think even Ellis would try a bite of the perfectly seasoned Vukah
hunger is being added as a setting though right?
cause i kind of like afking in a house for 2 hours without dying
Vukah = oversized Ewoks
Sometimes I ask myself if I'm to blame that people are that against Vukahs.
Then I shrug shoulders and dig for coins anyway.
oversized ewoks are wookies
Surely. Thats not a to go.
No.
undersized ewoks are gremlins
Maybe it'll even get a warning. On the other hand... the most bad that could happen is you dying which would be next to your altar
A man of class
This way of thinking is exemplary.
That is actually so true xD
Yes
It’s optional
yeah, i wonder how the hunger mechanic is, if it actually kills you or just leaves you disabled with low health like valheim
Dunno why
cause if it just leaves you weak i could still afk in a house
I couldn’t play test so I can’t answer that unfortunately
But laughed at "disabled"
Happy weekend you guys!
Talk to you on Monday
have a good weekend
@pliant quarry Unsure if you can weigh in. Does the hunger mechanic kill you instantly, drain health or just stop at low health?
Byee have a good weekend, rest up
I mean I think for me personally itd be super cool if it kills, but then again, thats just me Ik a lot of ppl would feel otherwise
Happy Wee-end!
it could potentially also be a setting of how forgiving or unforgiving the hunger mechanic is, like you set it to kill or set it to leave your character weaker
We'll see on monday
What I saw was that you could adjust the time it needs until (or after) food it'll settle in
since they added a bunch of settings, i could see that being a thing too
True maybe the base level is what we have now, where if you dont drink up your stamina is gonna be dawgpoop
Imagine.
Your Flameborn going to toilet and starving there.
Would finally explain those skeletons.
Excited either way, till then imma enjoy the rest of my vacation
you starve to death but somehow the farmer and other npcs never eat and are okay and just stand in the same spot constantly forever.
Someone finally thats about as braindaed in the head as i am
- refering to vanolia
No offense 😛
Theyll chip away at your supply of food
the skeletons died of thirst cause the shroud took all their water not much of a secret ;D
Each CM will eat their most expensive ressource
Imagine having to drink...
And go all 15 minutes to the well
Farmer will eat your saffron, Smith will eat your iron bars and leftover legendary items....
The nutjob of a carpenter is gonna eat glass
Food containing iron
But why does he eat runes.
The twisted immersion would be unreal
Exactly
and then they add weather, and it rains
and you're like damn if they only added weather sooner, those people could have had a drink 😄
😄
But why do our NPCs not die then.
I mean... They're explicitly said to be not Flameborn.
Do you guys think CUB is a Sonic fan 🤔
were they born of clay or something?
I think the npc arnt actually alive
isn't clay prepared in a flame...?
Mediocre fast food, if you ask me 🤷♀️
The games, the character or the merch 👀
Nightmare fuel
That’s unkind of you to speak about the video CUB filmed for our enjoyment
I'm a huge horror and weird creature fan
Like.... I'm feeding myself with scarying stuff
everyday
It was a compliment
Anyway..... THREE DAYS LEFT MOTHERLOVERS !!!
My socks are soggy
(I was trying to make a joke with MF and motherlover, but, is it an insult too ?)
No
Well yes
But no it isnt an insult
Ok, thanks !
Oh, wrong person to thank
Whatever, you both kind
You thanked me for my socks being soggy. 
Thanked for the information.
Everyone wanted... no... needed to know your socks were soggy.
Anticipation is strong for the update.
The only way this can get worse is if youre wearing shoes
yup, that was for the info, bnut .. indeed, soggy socks cant be unthankable xD
Never before have I wanted so badly to delete another mod's message.
It’s just socks, feet are nasty
feet aren't nasty unless you're a hobbit
putting wet sock gif is like putting a gif with someone scratching a chalk board
the very image disturbs people lol
Pretty sure toast is off today.
(That’s the joke)
Ah.
Well then.
Back to writing shitty code.
Had a talk with functional lead this morning for my project. Just had one question that needed answering, and he started throwing all these other requirements at me.
That’s why you never ask. Just do it
Luckily he used to write code, so he was able to tell me very concisely while I was making the changes what we needed to do. A few minor changes, but still.
"Oh, and we need to put all of the non-serialized items on the transfer journal." I'm sorry, WHAT do they want this to do?
Idiots.
lucky it wasn't me, i imagine i'd be like "okay so everything you did in the last few months, which i told you to do, i've tried it and don't like any of it, i think you should do something totally new and start from scratch" lol.
10/10 would eat!
i could be the weekend PR guy
seems like there's no weekend one
frog said goodbye for the weekend, toast is off on a friday
unless it's cubs
the rest of us getting back on monday https://media.tenor.com/MYZgsN2TDJAAAAAM/this-is.gif
Nah. More like the past few days, and then he's like, "Oh yeah, there's some stuff I forgot to add into the user story."
i'm capable of being very diplomatic and not offering my opinions actually, but i need to be paid to do that. 😛
But yeah Cub is the only one off on Fridays, it's just also often my busiest day
monday is my friday 
that actually feels like my room right now
it's always 30c in here
i am thankful for the new minni dungis with the lvl 30 weapons so i could farm there untill the update arrives forrthat thumbs up keen 😄
24c outside, but still 30c in here 😭
With CUB gone we know why. 
ideal job is work from home, fridays, saturday, sunday off
and good pay, obviously
or
wednesday off
If you read that, Toast, will all participants be informed even If they don't won?
Ideal job is making robots do it all and not selling your labor to the ruling class.
im off tue/wed/thu, its great being able to get done whatever I need to without dealing with traffic or rushing
And spending your time on creative pursuits.
I just get more days off the entire year as everyone else
And have fridays 1hr less
does that pay well? 😆
Doesn't matter if robots take care of society's basic needs.
We're heading in the wrong direction fast. AI is taking over art and creativity to leave humanity with more time for boring office drudgery.
hello!
80% of which has already been empirically proven to not be beneficial or necessary to society's function.
It's work for the sake of work.
Because we never really got away from feudalism.
Ouch
@pliant quarry Hi! I wanted to participate in the screenshot contest and thought I had more time. It said it would end "until Friday, July 26th at 11:59PM CET!" Is it fully closed or is it okay to submit my screenshot even if it's a little late? 😦
but idle hands....most people would become alcoholics if they didn't have work.
Nah.
Humans naturally want to create, to imagine and produce art.
Nobody wants to work on spreadsheets.
Just because hands might not be producing excess value to be stolen by the ruling class doesn't mean they'll be idle.
Not really true, data nerds exist 😝
Creativity comes in numerous forms, including scientific and mathmatical so say no one want to work spreadsheets is fundamentally wrong. BUT this really isn't the kind of place for such discussions 😄
But I agree with your point. If we took care of everyone, people would do creative things.
I am one of those 
i'm more of a pessimist i'm afraid - there's a lot of people who wouldn't know art or creativity if it hit them in the face
Hello friends
Ehh, that might be a product of environment, too. I tend to be more optimistic about that sort of thing, but I think the portion of people who wouldn't contribute is pretty low. Lots of those folks who aren't arty/creative might also enjoy working to help other people, or exploring new avenues that they've never had the opportunity to before, etc.
How are we loving the updates and changes to enshrouded?
There's another update dropping on Monday 👍 The stuff they've teased so far is awesome.
If you haven't played since EA dropped, there's an absurd amount of QOL and new features they've added.
Hell yeah thank you for the heads up
In the short term, peoples freedom to do what they want would be relative chaos, but things would settle relatively quickly when the 'rebellious' stage dies down and people settle down into a rhythm they like ^^ At least the way i'd see it.
I played right after HH update, so there were some definitely nice QOL
Tbh. Business administration was something in school that really made fun for me.
You know why...
I want weapon cosmetics.
There was another update between then and now that added a new zone as a part of the Revelwood that is pretty sizeable (and adds a lot of new blocks and stuff). Plus whatever's in the next update.
I’ve been waiting for big updates so I can have a wonderful replay. So thanks for the heads up on that
Reasonable.
But also...
Really hard to implement.
I see it if it's the same weapons type
I advocate for this game to every single person who even mentions an RPG lol
Well sure. Can't do disparate weapon types.
Even WoW only allows cosmetics from the same weapon class.
Yeah that makes sense.
it's all star trek, their society has replicators and transporters, two things that revolutionalize their world, they don't have hunger, and time to travel great distances to see friends is reduced. and AI/computers do most tasks too, so there is no requirement to have a job, a job becomes more about what you love to do and want to do - less about feeding your family or having a means to travel and not be stuck in a room because you need insurance for a car since your city is poorly designed for public transport.
Eh... That was a while ago
You can in WoW since a long time mog a sword into a mace.
Well, both are 1h.
Same class, but not same type, I guess.
Or maybe I need a more concise definition.
But that wouldn't do for Enshrouded. 
Sure it would.
Yeah, but it wouldn't be hard to communicate to the player that you have to make swords look like swords or daggers look like daggers 🤷♀️
For now
Daggers are their own weapon class and thus can only transmog as other daggers
Well, I know lots of us are hoping that doesn't stay that way forever
I'd love to see more differences between swords/axes/maces for both 1H and 2H
Even if the movesets get varied (thinking like Dark Souls), it would still work, I think, keeping 1h = 1h, 2h = 2h.
Even if an axe is made to look like a sword, it still attacks like an axe.
I guess the problem there is hitboxes.
Not sure how they're actually doing collision detection for that, if it's based on the weapon's actual model or not.
That could be an issue.
Swords are just long daggers. Spears are just daggers on a long stick.
Yeah, there's a lot of unknowns, like how much the weapon model affects hitboxes and stuff. Especially with the Hollow Halls weapons having a longer reach than other weapons of the same type.
Also, in the worst case it could fiddle with the resistances of enemies
I mean, if bad code happens
maces are just balls with many daggers sticking out of them
at least the maces that incorporate daggers in their design
Not all mace do that tho
Coins are just flat round daggers
Some maces are cleavers welded together.
You're thinking of morningstars, maces are just round
Agree 
Bows are just really bendy spears.
With the dagger part moved to a much smaller spear.
Baby spear.
The invention of bows Bro, what if we used a spear to throw another spear....?
My shoe armor would go into the mace category
"I want to stab that guy, but he's all the way over there"
Carlin's theory on the origin of the flamethrower.
Hey, you're totally right I think there must have been a miscommunication at some point, I'll open it back up until then.
Arrows are just spears that got the short twig
"I really want to set that guy over there on fire, but I'm too far away to get the job done."
Explain wands then
so technically we're all armed with flame throwers when we pass through airport security
Magic
You joke, but I get pulled aside by TSA every time because my fists are REGISTERED WITH THE STATE AS LETHAL WEAPONS.
By that logic, all hands are grenade launchers.
My punches are known to the state of California to cause cancer.
unrelated but kinda related......Hotdog is it a sandwich or taco!
binky tryna shit-stir now
i know it's not a dog, usually
Nothing new there then.
It's a sandwich
At least for me
Am not! Its a philosophical question lol
But I know technically it's a Taco
You're assuming a taco is a class in its own right.
And that a taco is not just a sub-class of sandwich.
Even the language experts have issued a verdict: Merriam-Webster came down definitively on the side of yes, a hot dog IS a sandwich, because “the definition of sandwich is 'two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between.
A sandwich is bread, sliced meat or filling and extras. The shape of a hot dog immediately disqualifies it! By definition - it is. An item of food consisting of two pieces of bread with meat, cheese, or other filling between them, eaten as a light meal.
That’s fine and all, but does ketchup belong on a hotdog?
Yes of course
yeah, ketchup and mustard
people dislike relish more
Ooh now we wait for the anti ketchup cult to join in
i love pickles
Blood for the Ketchup
Pineapples on Pizzas
some people who love pickles dont like relish
just as long as you don't start on Marmite. Those cultists are the WORST
the texture of relish/maybe the taste too
At this point I'm just an agent of chaos
Maggi seasoning on a Toast
Whats maggi seasoning?
Depends on the pickles and the relish. Lot of variety even there.
I can't stand sweet relish/pickles.
Anyone ever actually thought about how disorganized and terrible a chest actually would be for storing your items?
I like the vinegary dill taste.
That's how I used to store toys as a kid, and how we store toys for my kid now.
That's also why we use multiple smaller chests.
First, you need a truck that can roll down the street as fast as a pedestrian and simultaneously leave my house on this one day out of 1,095 possible days
And organize that way. "All the animals in here, all the drawing stuff in here, all the trucks/cars in here."
Can I just throw a hammer at you
No. Immune to that
There was a new Isekai that just dropped where they codified truck-kun.
There's a reason we tend to only pull an item or two out of chests... it's all we can be bothered to sort through.
I’ll just keep trying
"Oh yeah, that's truck-kun, our interdimentional hero delivery service."
no longer allowed in another world?
Yeah
"He seeks out people with miserable lives and offers them a second chance"
Had me rolling.
Almost as much as the Shadow in Eminance flashback to when he jumped in front of a truck with his underwear on his head screaming "MAGIC POWERS! MAGIC POWERS! MAGIC POWERS!"
That guy understood how world works
The flashback caught me so off guard.
I still think that anime might just be peak isekai.
"I. Am. Atomic."
I love it also. 
Discord anime viewing party lol
i like that enshrouded isnt a sort only type of game, and rather crafting stations will pull from chests so in most cases you don't need organized chests at all, ideally it would all be modular, every chest just adds to 1 storage system, so even if i put a stack of salt in 1 chest, and then a totally different chest, the game will find the salt within the whole storage system and combine them... but alas it is not modular.
not many games implement modular chest systems sadly
Btw. You keep missing.
You need more hit rating.
modded minecraft applied energistics 😄 the most genius system i've ever encountered in a game
ComputerCraft
I had a mod for Valheim that would auto-stash into nearby chests based on existing items in the chest.
But wait.
If we do that and get Isekai'd in Enshrouded
Who will make that Anime from us
I'd just walk up to my storage wall and hit 1 button. All loot stored.
i wanted them to go modular in core keeper, they could have made it so you could place storage boxes as ground, then covered up with tiles and then accessed from 1 terminal above ground.. but core keeper devs don't seem interested in this amazing idea for some reason.
grounded does that
Deal with the leftovers that I either hadn't collected yet, or maybe a chest was full.
Being poisoned's great. Losing 25% HP/sec for 20 seconds is wonderful... I hate it.
Block the bottles Joey
It has no drawback despite some stamina
Alternatively you can skill anti poison, take antiseptic with u or cleaned bandages
drink antiseptic - i read the description the other day and was enlightened
Please kids don't do that IRL
Since mire you can use it.
Not drink 
Ah.
I so did not know that
it amuses me more to think you drink it. foul idea.
you just dump it over your head and face right? lol
it's in a bottle - stuff in bottles you drink. swig it. quaff it. gulp it down with your sanddigger toasties
I want bottles of poision to throw too
I thought I had to put it on the bandage for it to be useful anti-poison.
But if I can just use it straight up, I'm assuming that's quicker and doesn't lock you into a 2 second animation.
Which makes it a lot more useful for jumping around trying to avoid damage and popping it real quick to remove poison.
i pray one day we will have 2h swords, spears, and crossbows 🙏
Gimme a catapult
Noo! I have duck and vukah on my 'dont nom' list, pft!
Ah she wants to eat duck and Vukah stew. Gotcha
Also i pause every time i have to go, but you all still type meanwhile. Not respecting my pause, broken discord server gwrah ^^
Grrwrah!
The day i realized i can drink antiseptic and improve me dodging the spells was the day I became a man
The other day I played an entirely dagger-dedicated build and needed to stab her from behind. That day something died inside me.
Stop stabbing people
But it's fun
And does alot of damage
whats going on guys, we dont have voice channels?
I am trying to get into the game, just started
its sort of fun, a higher volume valheim in a sense
Horror to moderate.
I start liking you.
It is not only sort of fun, it is - and I'm also coming from Valheim. 
Have u rescued the smith, made the armor from him with metal plates?
Will make the fight more easier.
Also, you can dodge attacks - try to see the pattern & dodge accordingly
I just dug a hole lured him into it and spammed him with a wand I found....
Kill the adventure before it started. 
You can craft a better one at the smith
Diggy Diggy Hole 🤣
man, buyilding downards is so frustrating, would be nice if you could place stuff further out below you like you can place it furthger out above you...
🥺
With the building tools?
You could hold Q and scroll with mouse to further distance the placeable object, non?
hmmm
i'll try that
i REALLY wish we had a floating camera for building
i was shicked to find FO76 did that.
im building cool spirals under my floating city.
Grounded has The handy gnat lol
does anyone wanna jump into a disc with me, im early in the game
just want some knowledge
You can always ask here.
But I'm busy in my own disc. right now. 
Glad I could help. 
Community LFG Discord server coming soon 🤫
Wait, ain't that channel in here for that
so how tf do i bujld this guy a fking shop
Will just go on and pretend I have any clue what you talking about.
Or I'm just a airbrain right meow
more than 8 people in a vocal chan and it goes like ''kfjngkfjdvnkjdfghhkopshk''
Separate discord server for lfg, not associated with keen.
??
bruh, i can just have ya jump into my disc. i feel like im losing braincells LOL
make a hammer. enter build mode.
IM there
just put up some walls and a roof.
Or only a roof
thats what i thought. BUT this mf shit wont build
He just wants to stand below something
if you make his forge and stuff it's an item in you inventory, put it in your tool bar.
what's up 
You need blocks crafted at a workbench
oh ya, you need to take wood or stone and make blocks to place.
Short or long answer?
Obviously not.
And even in Valheim you need materials.
Take your time, read the menu on the right side, what is told at the items itself, in the menus, et cetera. Most things have hints
that i get, on val we just have the mats and can build. its kinda cool you gotta preselect it and then drop in place
Needs time to get used to, but when you got used you'll build saurons castle
how do i break something i have built?>
i have my nitpicks but the building is very good.
you can pres Y to undo or hover a piece of it and right click
to remove.
For me it was Z
im so mad we can teleport in the air anymore. really annoying when building downwards. XD
i keep slipping off!
this is the price I pay for my hubris.
how do i move my storage unit without emptying it?
sadlyt you cant
whats the best skill tree path
if im new to the game
range doesnt feel that strong, mage been under whelming
meele fun
depends
Mage right now be the worst "class", ranger strongest late game. For early and as a beginner, melee 1h with shield is decent
But you choose what you deem fun & what vision you have.
If you want to be mage, don't let that stop you, find ways to make it work
I've picked some interesting skills in each path. Like the combo push power with the hand, teleportztion and hit with a big axe, switch to the dagger, wait for the ennemy to hit, counter, lil knee in the mouth, slash and... jump and booom
What fun would each game be if we go with 100% best builds into it
I think it lacks of combo for each weapons, but you can combine them and make pretty cool combos by switching weapon fastly
I just dig holes and explode things......
If it works
It works
War is not fight
War is to be win
But I like to win with style 😎
and even if you die, as long as you can stand up again you'll win
Take example by Goku, Asta and alotta other shonen protagonists
Id say life isn't a shonen, but some humans proves me wrong so...
I wish life was an isekai
its the genre where you get warped to another world
Yup, that kind of plot can be awesome
You end up in Enshrouded. What will you do
At this point though I would settle for not living in the country I do. Thankfully i have great games to distract me.
I wonder if keen will do something canon with the teleporters between worlds for the players.
Like parallel universe or something. Like the ancient tried many things to stop the shroud to happen, but none works
And so its all the gamers worlds
Hmmmmm Dig a bunker and hide
Players*
If youre just starting out all of the classes will be kinda meh. Most classes will get a significant power boost at around lvl 12-15 and again at 23-25ish. And then from there on obviously getting proper weapons/armor and all the skill points from elixir wells
As much fun as wow is
Anywhere between a whole lot and none at all
A draconic vulture clips through the wall, you hear it screeching every minute. You're lvl 1 without equipment
You cant even end your life in this game...
But the spawn zone is pretty safe
I mean... the bunker
Nothing to eat that being said
Except if you invite some friends and feel enough tough to...
Well
You get me
Getting isekai'd ends up in 2 scenarios:
Either you get into situations you cannot or barely solve at all, because all odds are against u
Or you're that op that nothing really matters anyway.
Have a nice weekend Toast. 
Cut it down, smash it with your fists, go around it with the grapple hook or dig through the wall next to it
you're allowed to do all of these
17:59 CEST
I am looking for people to play with
Here is a time converter for those who don't know what CEST is 😉 https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/germany/berlin
Google. Google will help those who are in dire need.
It just costs our souls.
Just in time for lunch break in EDT
So, I now have more hours in Enshrouded than I do in skyrim, FONV, or FO4....>_>
Leave some interest for the 1.0 release there. At this rate you'll be fed up then. 
ya, im a tad worried, but i've mostly just been bulding stuff. like a floating island.
and it's somewhere the devs cant mess with it! >:D
Don't thyem hear that they will take it as a challenge and we will all suffer.
Imagine if they updated existing locations in the upcoming update
It’d be unheard of I know, but imagine if they did
that has never ever happened before cept the last time
What about the time before that 👀
we don't talk about that
Smart, smart
Anything could happen ^^ even something like 'oh the naming/numbering of build items doesnt work if we want to add this cool thing so we have to remake and rename them in a new system' and older parts would be pointing to non-existant items. Thus save unuasable.
I dont think that will happen, but with experience its good to be wary and just not get attached to anything to be ready and deal if ^^
Have to remind oneself that its like a continous beta test at this point. It might not make sense to have the one save to 'keep playing with' all into full release, just in sensible case
anything CAN happen!
remember... these are the people that made double doors 9 blocks wide (or was it 7?)
Im just having fun playtesting the updates for now,
Nothing tangible to loose and i will want to make a proper full replay come 1.0 ^^
don't they somehow have to fill out 50% of the map by 2025 ?
Replay from first ea, and then this one for mire update already feels different in pace a bit
At some point one might miss out things added earlier if stubbornly treating ones save as 'the one'
if next update doesnt have more map it would be tight i think lol
Doesnt matter
(Here we go again..)
why not? did they extend the timeline for that?
Does. Not. Matter.
There is no inscribed stone and blood contract.
No need to stress over 'we hope and aim to..'
Easier to not assume, and not be upset and stress.
It won't already confirmed
yeah but what people look forward to is different for everyone, more map will matter to some more than weather would for example, the new update with the game settings might get some people to play, but i think only a big content update that adds more map will get me to play for example.
like i wasn't personally looking for intricate game settings
Doesnt matter.
theres no way, not at this pace, imo systems are more important than "content", I wouldnt have released EA without public servers being ironed out
But it doesn't matter if you play again or not tho
Id just chill and enjoy stuff being worked on at iterated upon at the pace that brings the best game,
Looming at a clock and act like one is Electronic Arts publisher on keen is just wasted energy.
Let them cook and chill
My shoulder hurts
i guess because i have a bunch of games with intricate game settings, but i choose the standard and roll with it in most games... my play style is not to replay the game 10 times with different settings, i'm like a one and done player.
like no mans sky, i have 200 hours in one save, not going to make a new save with new settings lol
They are luckily not making a game tailored to what you personally like and want
thats not the point im making
It never is...
you said it doesn't matter, but i am only saying - it doesn't matter to you.
i'm an example of it mattering to someone.
why play EA then?
You are not their publisher, go work for electronic arts bobby
"AAA games are so shit rushed nowadays, also you indie studios without publisher, Please keep timelines as i dictate cus i dont like it how you are doing it and.."
is bobby a swedish insult or something?
oh i don't care if they keep the timeline, but i am saying some updates matter more to me than others
ideally every feature update comes with some sort of map/content update too
(Tho... embracer group, hurr)
ah ok, I get it
You are not very gamedev minded, you always think you have the 'way things should be'
You have a lack of "to me" in many statements
Or 'isnt it?, could it be? Ive a thought that maybe'
it's the internet, i'm precisely not trying to be precise at 2am in the morning
people are free to correct me - if that's where they want to spend their energy
I feel like thats valid, I mean its been 40-50 years of video game development. There are things that work and lessons learned, I think its fair to expect certain things from the industry.
Valourant has a history with claims in other channels here, so its not an isolated demeanour, otherwise id not retort
personally i like when games keep updating for 10 years, like no mans sky has, but there is also the camp of players (and developers) who want their game to have an end and be finished, and not just be a constant project for all eternity. so i guess timelines matter a bit for those people and those developers.
maybe because those devs also want to make the second iteration of their game, like house flipper 2, or valheim 2 etc.
For instance Valourant make statements about people with ADHD and mental health and what they think they do in public and why, about what lawyers in game copyright cases do wrong. And kinda iffy statements of that kind that clumsily paints groups in a bad/silly manner
So, i am not very 'benefit of the doubt' with how they adress things at this point.
Anyways, thats the why. As for enshrouded theyve been exemplary so far so i feel confident it will keep going forward ^^
it will be interesting to see the updated progress map after this update
like how much more is checked off the list
plus maybe they still developed a ton of map already and are just not releasing it
I think they’ve generated most of the terrain, it’s just actually building onto it
Though when I looked at the area for the swamp it was mostly flat and trees, so they sculpted and changed terrain
I think they also removed a bit of the unused terrain outside of the EA area with the swamp update
but hypothetically if the devs knew today that their statement of the game being out of early access by 2025 was going to be missed by 6 months, would devs usually reveal that right away or do they typically wait for the deadline to come and pass, and then say "oh yeah we've known since july that we were already behind by 6-8 months and it would be 2025 of august."
i feel like if they knew today they'd have said something already
2025 is a good period of time, 12 months
They don’t have to release in Jan and afaik it’s never been said when in 2025
They never said anything about 2025, they only mention aiming for 1 year but that was very optimistically
Just enjoy the ride
yeah, 1 year back when they first made the thing, i forget the word, the map, i think it was made in may not sure
what are the map things for development called
can't think of the word rofl
sleepy brain
A map of the road
OH
roadmap
oh was the roadmap really made in march, see i wanted to say march - but i said may
I haven't found anything stating in the post or roadmap about a 2025 release, not even roadmap will be fully done by then
1 year though is kinda more precise than - "anytime in 2025" 1 year from when they said that is march 2025
Roadmap came out 13th of March
yeh which i might vaguely and wrongly remember is when the 1 year statement was made by someone
The 1 year aim was said when the game launched but that only was a good guess which turned out to be not possible
I think expectations need to be tempered
launched on steam?
is that the first launch
Roadmap was features to be added to early access this year, but things on there could get added or removed.
The bottom part 100% won't happen this year, rest of the first part is a big maybe
game launched on steam on January 24, 2024 but the discords been around 1 year before that i think
That's the only launch
Discord exists since end of 22
oh i got enshrouded on launch day, nice
so then we probably are looking at december 25th 2025 by the time there is a chunky content update 😄
did they say they are updating the roadmap soon?
after this latest update release?
Early 25 for mountains is my guess
The roadmap isn't even done so doubt we get an update soon
ok
oh yeah the bottom of the road map, sharing bases, biomes, world events, and water
being able to blue print bases would be cool if that's what they mean by sharing them
Cant wait for an optimazation update.
I need bigger explosives
To remove stuff that got added sounds somehow rough
Has it been listed somewhere what will be in the next update on Monday?
nope we had only two teasers
Hello! New here! Do you know if in future will add pvp? Or some group feature?
Not quite known.
But the devs opinion in that regard (as of now, it might change) is this: #game-faq message
they can update existing locations all they want, they cant reach me in the SKYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
The Update after:
We patch in Sky Islands
the meteorite update
so, i just realized there isn't a chat function while playing multiplayer
it would be nice when joining a random server
to be able to chat with someone in game
Why do you want to talk to people...
Some people are just weird... I can't image wanting to talk to people... ._.
Just asking for trouble, if you ask me.
why ask you? that would involve talking to you.. and you said talking is bad right?
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hi buddies !
Got bored last night and made this #enshrouded-chat message can I has update hint?😇
Alright game....it is rude to shrink my backpack just for going to another world.
Nice try, but futile. No CM will show up here at the weekend. We're doomed to wait.
Imagine not knowing
eh I was just going for a laugh anyway
I was going for shattering hopes and dreams. Mwahahaha. 
I have a special room in my fortress just for you. has a wonderful view of the shroud !
That’s too nice for Van, he deserves a hole in the ground. He’s a treasonous fiend.
Why is now everyone mean to me. 
Anyway, I prefer my jail that has Shroud coming in.
Maybe you want to visit, guys.
Because you won’t reroll to WW Monk
Quite funny that you speak about that, I mained WW in BFA
I will not be playing TWW but WW Monk sounds like it might be fun
(I don’t play DPS)
Hero Talents are uninteresting, don’t care for rock dwarves, spider people or the zones
Delves felt unimpressive when I did them too
what game are we talking here sounds interesting
I'll just see what comes.
I'm not the person to play betas
I could never
my island is nearly done. what to build on it meow.....
the bottom is really cool
i wish i could play enshrouded
but i get paranoid about my PC running the game
just do it. mine is a potato
i'm still waiting to find a good company to install AC so I am not gaming in 30c weather in my room when it's only 25c outside.
my room is like always 31c, only goes down to 24 in the mornings when I've had the PC off for 6 hours
oof
the AC companies are crazy
wildly different quotes
so many people just trying to rip you off
one company trying to install like 3x more than you need, the other company saying, no that's crazy you only need this in this location
lol
My office is usually around 90F so I feel your pain
how big is your island
are you going to make more islands around it and connect structures on them or put gardens/farms?
Build a castle ontop of it with underground jail and dungeon! 
Build an Amazon warehouse instead
Employ the remaining citizens of Embervale to work there
Cruel 
Wow, I’m cruel for helping the country get back on their feet and find employment??
Not a bad idea a resource delivery company
I did that in connan set up a massive trading operation I was a straight up clan war profiteer lol
I’ve been driving through Houston the past 15 mins and I’ve seen people cut across this 4 lane highway with no blinkers, almost crash into each other and just other crap.
just one 160x160 square. somewhere around 10 deep. i didnt count how thick i made it.
hi
Isnt that why you have guns over there?
So you can shoot the cars not driving safely to make sure erryone is safe, or uhm, something ^^ 🤭
Hey there
Hello ^^
seems like a dangerous topic to bring up, "isn't that why america has guns" in a sort of not sensitive way
lol
Only if you’re sensitive
oh i am very sensitive
oh my god a keen employee reveals themselves
now i know of 3 who are not toast cubs or frog
There’s a bunch of em
ahh correction now i know of 4 + the 3 PR people = 7
Vrragrawr is my fave dev, the only vukah on the team, but they keep them in the basement =/
is anyone there had bag in the last dung? i posted picture in the #enshrouded-chat
A bug in hollow halls?
i retried do this dung from 0 cuz i had the same bag 40 minutes ago, but i still cant do it( cuz i need 1 thing
yep
the last one, when mobs are 25 lvl
lol i kept reading that as dung for real 💩
(If i could translate right) ah. Ive not done that yet
u can do it on ur lang i can translate
maybe this is a bag? like i need to try from 0 again this task
Oh no its just the accidental typos i mean. No worries tho,
Mebbe someone else knows more about a bug in the last hallow halls?
thank you
