#the-tavern

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pastel oyster
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Old is new, and new is old, and the hipsters liked it before it was cool.

tepid burrow
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like powder shampoos

golden crystal
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But you forget something important. Your diet and surroundings change your smell. The people at that time didn't eat things like we today, they where outside all of the day. In the citys the smell where bad, because of all the human waste on the streets, but in villages I doubt the smell was that awful ^^ The human itself would be fine with a bath in the see/river once every two weeks. ^^

pastel oyster
tepid burrow
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so have people! sand baths and mud scrubs

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wait swap that mud baths and sand scrubs

viral star
woeful light
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yup, manure all day erry day

pastel oyster
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just because of what I eat

viral star
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I've done enough research personally, as sad as that sounds. About technology and how it developed, and human living conditions. How we build houses (which is why I summarized half timbered as a group, because it is). And I lived around Amish for 5 years, working with them every day. Even in todays world.... some things dont change.

narrow ferry
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any1 wanna start a new playthrough with me?

viral star
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And id say all the trans fats of today and sugar are way worse than any fresh veggies back then. We smell worse now then ever. Probably why we need so much soap

pastel oyster
golden crystal
viral star
pastel oyster
viral star
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livestock did not Roam

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Kira: please oh please dont bring religion in here

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or sports, or politics

pastel oyster
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not really talking religion, I am talking about how people misunderstand historic things, the nativity is just an example. I'm atheist, kiddo 😛

copper apex
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And dont make any jokes about vegan - thats tasteless 😆

viral star
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...

golden crystal
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Of course the roamed, with someone overlooking the livestock. If a cow wanted to go through a fence, they just walked over it. The only thing the cows don't do this today is because of electricity and the calves get shocked as soon as they can walk. ^^

viral star
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Just takes one spark Kira, to bring a half timbered barn down 😛

tepid burrow
viral star
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and even if you had no fences, which is unlikely, they would stay by the water. Which YOU created.

golden crystal
viral star
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errr

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no

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most the houses in europe are a few hundred years old

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your thinking thousands of years perhaps

pastel oyster
brittle iron
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Few thousands probably yeah

viral star
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you think humanity came all this way in 200 years?

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...

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im ...

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drops mic

golden crystal
woeful light
pastel oyster
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Dude... where I live, 200 years ago it was mostly native tribes and adobe houses. so yeah.

tepid burrow
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... my grams farm has a mudshed us grandkids summered in like camping..it was only a couple hundred years old

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im in colorado btw

pastel oyster
viral star
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dude America doesnt count

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we didnt have anything a few hundred years ago

tepid burrow
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ha

golden crystal
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USA is just a European colonie... x)

pastel oyster
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ah right, America doesn't count till the white people got here. Sounds about right 😛

viral star
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oof

brittle iron
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Well humanity is a pretty broad term deercat_derp In Europe they were already building Fachwerk houses in the 13th century. But there are also places today where people live in mudhuts, so...

golden crystal
viral star
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Indians were mostly roaming tribes, if you really want to get into it, they used wood in the surroundings to support the buckskins they carried with them to set up camp wherever

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wherver the food went

golden crystal
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true dat.

viral star
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Yes you can get into the very old structures built into the sandstone in some states, but that was... the exception, not the rule

tepid burrow
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yeah CO has quite a few pueblos

pastel oyster
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On the plains maybe. There were hundreds of different tribes here, some migratory, some not. And their cultures could not have been more different from each other. 🙂

viral star
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meh

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more alike then I think you give credit

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America is a country of extremes

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weather changes drastically and so does the landscape

golden crystal
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in my area there is a museum, Haithabu, it's an old viking village rebuild like the vikings lived. It is really intreresting: https://haithabu.de/en/homepage

viral star
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you cant feed a city of people on food that doesnt exist

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and agriculture is not practical year round

brittle iron
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Haithabu is an interesting place

pastel oyster
tepid burrow
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this is why i want to find a -live- city ingame. some hidden away toen thats thriving without knowledge of shroud

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we the flamborn came from one way, how why are they another

viral star
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If Native American Indians were content to live in one place it wouldve been farther south then most of their historical lands. Going all the way up into Canada. That is a hunting tribe, not agricultural, and why there is no permanent structures. And MOST tribes lived that way...

golden crystal
brittle iron
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Heimskr flashbacks

golden crystal
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Like in CP77 with the one crazy guy who is preaching about andromeda XD

viral star
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Its naturally a desert

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SoCo is completely artificial

pastel oyster
golden crystal
viral star
viral star
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I grew up in Arizona so dont think me some corn crop plains hobunk

pastel oyster
viral star
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No, it doesnt, because we designed it not to

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but it did

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all the way to Mexico

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thats people, agriculture, industry

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changed California into what it is

pastel oyster
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... it really wasn't.

viral star
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if you dont think irrigating millions of square miles with water didnt change the climate....

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only thing it had for it was the cooling effect from the ocean coming in on the jet stream

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all the water landed up north and east

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where there were mountains to make the pressure rise

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which btw the preciptation landed on the other side

pastel oyster
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yeah - not going to discuss this anymore. lol. I don't know where you are getting your information, but SoCal was not and has never in recorded history been a complete desert. 🤣

viral star
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okay

golden crystal
woeful light
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I grew up in norcal, I miss cardboard sliding in the summer

tepid burrow
golden crystal
pastel oyster
tepid burrow
pastel oyster
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at least that's what we did here.

viral star
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Theres the champions hill outside the world headquarters for little league baseball, they hand out cardboard for kids.

woeful light
golden crystal
tepid burrow
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any reason to slide a hill, mud, sand, grass..we made our own slipnslides with rain tarps and plastic painter shetts

lethal rune
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i saw a video that basically showed USA getting shafted for farm quality soil, and canada got the best parts

tepid burrow
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i mean we had snow too but usually summer is was mandated get our butts outside

viral star
woeful light
viral star
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now i got a song stuck in my head

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aint your scrub

golden crystal
viral star
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California will break off and Arizona will be ocean front property

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hey theres another song

golden crystal
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But with so many people from america here, there is a question I wanted always ask, Is it true you guys spray green color on dried out grass?

viral star
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yes

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in the desert states, ive known it to happen. Especially golf courses

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but at your house? no

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noone can afford the money for the water anyways

golden crystal
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I couldn't image someone would really do that. I thought it was all a troll or something. xD

lethal rune
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like maybe it was this video, usa got shafted for good farmland and basically has a belt in the middle, but it's still nowhere near as good as the thin band of farm land in canada. https://youtu.be/H9oT-7kDBFM?t=955

viral star
pastel oyster
golden crystal
pastel oyster
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But I don't know one person here that sprayed their grass green.

viral star
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but again, mostly... people just landscape with volcanic stone

golden crystal
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That's so horrible...

pastel oyster
viral star
lethal rune
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you have lots of it though, not like you're lacking

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its why half your states are empty

viral star
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half our states are empty because they are mountainous, desert, or swamp

golden crystal
lethal rune
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that's part of it too

viral star
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Anyone committed to making great farm land is capable of it

lethal rune
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or they are empty historically

viral star
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and I am not saying we have the best soil... its been farmed like hell for a long time

woeful light
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we provide food relief for so many countries, AND throw food out

lethal rune
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i recently saw a video about how USA drops a few million worms over panama

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anyone interested?

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lol

viral star
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But... like here in Illinois for instance, its on a ancient bed of ocean, so lots of seashells and poop. It does pretty well. I have been to almost every state, hell ive been in Canada too (not every state) and the dirt here, is almost black.

lethal rune
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also just panama and usa history is super interesting in general

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since it's how USA became king in trade with the panama canal etc.

tepid burrow
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most homes around here do xeriscaping

viral star
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No offense but i dont just randmoly click on youtube videos when ppl drop them like its a conversational piece

golden crystal
lethal rune
tepid burrow
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@warteks you need to calm down sir

lethal rune
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usually i just save the videos and watch them later

golden crystal
viral star
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sorry.... it.... made sense

tepid burrow
lethal rune
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if you get rick rolled nobody has to know

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like maybe i just got ricked rolled 5 times in the last minute

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but nobody would know

pastel oyster
golden crystal
tepid burrow
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which was so soft on feet

pastel oyster
golden crystal
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I really need to visit USA and see this for myself. 😄

lethal rune
viral star
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well when I worked at a golf course (yes thats why i said that earlier) we used a certain granular sand

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definately helps with the oxygen

pastel oyster
viral star
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very true

lethal rune
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i feel like the whole world except for dictatorships are kinda really diverse places now

tepid burrow
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so the couple had full clover with step pad moss bits and edging, they wore shoes in house, but barefooted on lawn

viral star
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best to do it with family, in a RV, for a month, and lots of doughnuts to pay off the cops that pull you over for having no clue

lethal rune
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it's not really a staple tied to one country anymore

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australia, canada, most of europe, all kinda really diverse lol

pastel oyster
viral star
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Couldnt do that in Arizona, goat heads would get you every time

tepid burrow
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im nearly always barefoot myself

pastel oyster
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same 🤣

viral star
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what I love about being farther east... green... and stuff isnt trying to kill you

tepid burrow
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nope grew up running thru em

golden crystal
lethal rune
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turkey is probably really diverse, russia is technically diverse since it's so huge, and made up of many cultures - but say moscow as a city would probably be less diverse than new york

tepid burrow
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my soles are like a sewers finger, smooth callous

viral star
pastel oyster
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it takes about 26 hours to drive from the southern most part of the west coast to the northern - a lot more on the east coast... and about 3-4 days (I think) to drive from east to west coast.

viral star
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...... wth are you talking about

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oh

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you said just the west coast

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I was gonna throw a fit just then

woeful light
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I drove from louisville to seattle in just under 2 days

tepid burrow
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so long as we aint driving in Australia

pastel oyster
woeful light
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once XD in salt lake city

tepid burrow
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lies you dont sleep in salt lake

viral star
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not my favorite spot

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My personal best is Phoenix to Philly in 39 hours. two stops for 2 hours sleep

pastel oyster
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eh - says it's about a 34 hour drive, I suppose that's possible, but it's making my hips hurt just thinking about it. xD

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(louisville to seattle)

viral star
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but reality sets in right. Tornado turns you down. Highway under construction. Tollway you didnt expect and you forgot to just let them send the dealership the ticket.

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random idiots driving irradically

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all these things make you want to stop and find a bar

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which we do have plenty of

golden crystal
lethal rune
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there's only a few reasons to drive 36 hours, family, work (trucker), see a girl you met online, abortion, you're kinda crazy, can't afford a plane ticket... tourism? i feel like tourism is not a common one among americans. so many just live in a little 10 mile radius all their lives. tourism more likely for me, as a canadian we drove across USA once when i was a kid.

golden crystal
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But not gonna lie, we have the same people here in EU 😄

lethal rune
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never drove across my own country

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lol

viral star
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yeah, i wanted to get to where I was going

lethal rune
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driving cross country used to be more of a thing up to the 90s maybe

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i feel like it might've dropped off since planes, i dunno

viral star
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i grew up driving everywhere

lethal rune
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maybe state to state flights got cheaper

viral star
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mom did it, step dad did it

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i ended up doing it

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this country is just... fun

golden crystal
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meanwhile most germany walk from village to village. XD

viral star
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lol

lethal rune
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japan does trains

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actually usa used to be big on trains too

viral star
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everyone yells at us for using so much gasoline... but we got to get to where we are going! its big

lethal rune
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too bad the money became less for that

viral star
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Amtrak is still a thing

tepid burrow
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ccolorado, if not born here you were a tourist at some point

viral star
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mostly eastern US

golden crystal
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When I was 16 I walked 15km drunk home. (legal are to drin beer in germany!)

viral star
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I know Colorado very well too. Lived in Durango for a bit. Brother grew up there. Been to Colo Springs many a time.

golden crystal
viral star
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hah

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What are you at per gallon

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i got google so you can spit out Marks

golden crystal
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we pay per liter

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~ 1.90€ per liter

viral star
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yeah your cheaper

lethal rune
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at euros?

viral star
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in anything

lethal rune
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what is gas in states?

viral star
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puts you at 3.8E per gallon

golden crystal
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1 gallon is 3,7 liters ^^

viral star
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well i did a quick google search for average in US

lethal rune
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we're at 160.9 cent(s)/litre

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canadian currency

viral star
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I guess its not far off

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did i do that math wrong on litres?

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i did, i typed in 1.9 into litres like an idiot and got .5 gallons

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so yeah you are definately more expensive

lethal rune
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we're paying 1.60 which is 1.09 euros

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so he's paying almost double in europe

viral star
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so thats 4.1202 a gallon

golden crystal
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its like 7,20$ per gallon in germany. and we only got the gasoline thats the worst in america. ^^

viral star
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and we were higher than that not too long ago but it came down, average now is about 3.45 nationally

tepid burrow
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but it averages out in use right? we constatly fill up most folks weekly, there my friend said it is maybe twice a month

lethal rune
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and 1.60 cnd is 1.16 US

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oh wait we're paying more obviously

viral star
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i did 1.09 Euro calc

lethal rune
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because the usa and euro currency is lower?

woeful light
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liters to gallons

viral star
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0.93 conversion. 1 dollar to

tepid burrow
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math teachers everywhere crying because we doing maths

viral star
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hold my beer

woeful light
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pint

subtle prawn
lethal rune
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usa and germany both use gallon?

golden crystal
viral star
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yea

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which is the oppositve of 0.93

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lol

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anyways

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youll get more US currency for your Euro

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The thing about the US average is it ranges like a 1.50 all over the US, mostly in the big cities

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-for gas

golden crystal
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yepp, that's why i wrote you, ca. 7.20$ per gallon in germany. ^^

viral star
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guess its good you can walk from town to town

lethal rune
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they need to get electric in europe

golden crystal
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haha, at least from village to viallge. 😄

lethal rune
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so it is cheapest in canada?

woeful light
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now that I work from home, I fill up every 4 months 😆 fell_justright

subtle prawn
viral star
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Canada is the best place to live, its the cheapest, the economy is doing great and its leadership is without fault, they dont even have any semi-drivers

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And housing is stupid cheap... forgot that

golden crystal
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I have colleagues driving with the bike ca. 20km (12,4274 freedom units) to work and back every day.

viral star
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Freedom units

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my brain just died

lethal rune
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canada isn't the best, but it might be slightly advantageous to many US states, in certain respects anyway

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some other US states less so

tepid burrow
subtle prawn
golden crystal
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Well that's why one of my Aunts moved to canada in the mit 80th. ^^

viral star
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Canada has one good thing going for it, Healthcare

lethal rune
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we're having high cost of homes and rent here, high food prices (price gouging from the food companies)... our supply chain is weak and relies on a lot from USA... everything i want to get, they don't have in canada, but you find in USA.... so it can be frustrating.

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and we have a monopolies on internet/phone

viral star
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the rest of it is melting under duress. Being geographically what it is, the states with the population are overpopulated in the cities, and noone can afford the living in the cities. But there is nowhere to go. Its kinda tragic

tepid burrow
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nope dont et me started there for americass healthcare, we need new topic..

golden crystal
viral star
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be quiet Germany

subtle prawn
lethal rune
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and lets be honest, the weather kinda sucks in canada

golden crystal
lethal rune
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extreme cold in winter, extreme hot in summer... though the hot part is basically happening in more countries now

subtle prawn
viral star
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well yeah, geographically, very mountainous and it gets darn cold

golden crystal
viral star
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I love Canada, but I think it should just mate with US and Mexico into one big love bubble of ... let the people live wherever

lethal rune
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oh and unlike some european countries, too much car emphasis here....

subtle prawn
tepid burrow
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years and years ago the peak {pikes peak} had snow thick year round, now its a surprise if some is there in January

lethal rune
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like tons of suburbs, with fast and wide roads

golden crystal
subtle prawn
golden crystal
viral star
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I actually give lots of props to Germany for how the economy there is growing. And Switzerland has some of the best living conditions on the planet according to several sources

subtle prawn
viral star
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I would love to visit both places (i like mountains anyways, the Swiss Alps sound nice)

lethal rune
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and the suburb aspect obviously exacerbating the housing crisis along with traffic jams, since not enough compact housing for middle class... it's probably the same everywhere to some degree, though i know some european countries have way better government housing

viral star
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But I love my country too

vocal elm
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Well, the German Healthcare system is not what it was. If you do not have a private insurance the wait can be insane and you have to pay so much extra anyway. It is good for basic stuff yes.

golden crystal
viral star
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yeah ive been tip-toe-in all night

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sorry

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drove Kira to silence which is sad

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my fault

golden crystal
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Shhhh! LEt her sleep, she needs sleep!

lethal rune
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kira needs her sleep probably

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lol

viral star
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fair

lethal rune
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so do i, goodnight all

vocal elm
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Nah, lets enjoy the game! The rest is silence 😄

golden crystal
viral star
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o/

vocal elm
tepid burrow
viral star
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Some random game somebody mentioned to me, I decided to check out, and pay for early access. Here I am, using their discord, like its an AOL chatroom in the 90s

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Probably got a Mod assigned to me at this point

vocal elm
tepid burrow
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its needed, if wedont chatter we will live ingame

viral star
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not at all

vocal elm
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Do you remember the yahoo groups?

viral star
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do you yahoo?

vocal elm
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not anymore

viral star
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lol

tepid burrow
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oh that was my introduction to online playing euchre in yahoo

viral star
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yeah i had Yahoo messenger, MSN, AIM, ICQ

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man I used to dialup into BBs

golden crystal
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ICQ... AH OH! x)

vocal elm
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ICQ is finally dead, RIP!

viral star
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is it?

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havent checked in like 2 years

vocal elm
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Yep, sadly

viral star
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yeah... i loved ICQ

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it was my #1 for years

golden crystal
viral star
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hah

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i do have miles of chatlogs

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on the old harddrive, whichll never see light of day

vocal elm
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I have read it somewhere that they finally stoped (or will stop) their service soon.

vocal elm
viral star
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"
ICQ will stop working
from June 26"

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right off the website

golden crystal
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ICQ will stop working from June 26

tepid burrow
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ha

viral star
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watch, itll be the new dark web tool

vocal elm
vocal elm
golden crystal
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o7

viral star
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well its based off of SMS and IRC messages

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which anyone can send from anywhere

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makes sense, just got to designate a different DNS

golden crystal
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I see it like this, ICQ (with some others) is the grandmother of modern cmmunication like Whatsapp and co.

viral star
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i guess, i dont use them

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IRC is IRC, still Unix born

tepid burrow
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that discord is the prevalent chatter now boggles me, i remember games sending you passwords for forums

viral star
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everything else afterwards is just putting flavors and colors on it

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i agree in a sense

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Discord isnt what it was what it was when i got it and wanted it to be

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now its trying to be the everything, and it just kinda urks me

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Like I suddenly forgot Ventrillo, or Teamspeak

vocal elm
viral star
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Well now you said it

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next big thing will be some AI encrypted algorithmic ICQ

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*idea

tepid burrow
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oh my teamspeak! I was trying to recall it while talking to my son about everquest and such

viral star
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well thats what ICQ and AIM got famous for right? the ability to "voice chat"

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that was new stuff back in the day

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AIM had its in with AOL which was everyone email and chatroom program

golden crystal
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TeamSpeak is good, but Discord has more with the whole chat and much easier data exchange.

viral star
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thats exactly it

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Discord won because they dumped a ton of investment into server storage

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so people could share, for free, whatever

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whereas TS and Vent you had to have a host

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set up a host, pay for it, or do it on you own system

tepid burrow
golden crystal
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At the beginning Discord was horrible, really bad sound and everything but now it's so much better.

viral star
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TS was great at that, you could organize groups, and set different speaking channels. So a commander could be in multiple channels at once

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you still dont have that with Discord

golden crystal
viral star
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its one place only at a time

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...

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nah

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I used to be really uptight about what did what on my computer. I still am but, I dont worry about data theft. i dont ever give out anything anyone wants

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Conspiracy theorists crack me up. they spend so much time worrying about wha the government is interested in, they completely miss the point they are nobody to them

golden crystal
viral star
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Where people actually broke off into groups for strat

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dont do that on WoW, Raid is linear

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everyone is on the same fight

tepid burrow
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everquest, any raid like oh a seven day plane of air camp

viral star
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yeah idk Battlefield is where it shined for me, when you got 4 groups, 3 ground on objectives and one air group. and everyone cant be talking over each other that is nowhere near the other. TS shined

golden crystal
viral star
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as long as they dont have my banking information who cares what they do

tepid burrow
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thats why i a digging enshrouded atm, no raid type thing, we go we fight we fight more

viral star
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they are not stealing my Identity if that where you going with it

tepid burrow
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oh noes my keystrokes and game wishes are being noted

native pulsar
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dose anyone know if you can craft a target dummy where you can play around with the builds and test things out? :S

golden crystal
tepid burrow
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@native pulsar it doesnt take and show damage like you would want one too, i usually pick small mobs for build tests

golden crystal
viral star
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Biggest reason I like Enshrouded... well theres two, they are active, they actually fix bugs quickly, and release patches relatively within a month. And the engine they are building this game on is solid, and its thiers, they have a good in house programming group capable of achieving it and it works better than most out there performance wise (yes a few glitches)

vocal elm
viral star
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But I cant say that for 99% the rest of the world

golden crystal
tepid burrow
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i dont worry cause -I- got nothing

vocal elm
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We so far used Skype to talk while playing. Now with another group we use Discord and I have to say Discord works better for me.

viral star
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Ah Skype, theres the last redheaded child in the room. forgot all about him.

tepid burrow
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skype was good for overseas chatter, talking to Australia and the like

vocal elm
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I do not work in IT, but I am suspicious by nature ... 🙃

viral star
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so was ICQ

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well now everything is Microsoft Teams, and Google Groups

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I spent ... 7 hours this week so far in meetings with ppl all over the country in one of those two

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drives me crazy

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Google Meet, sorry

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whatever

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_<

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crazy

golden crystal
viral star
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no not really

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honestly

golden crystal
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Oh thats a rare one!

viral star
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this is big stuff were doing, were changing our database from inhouse, baked from 1982, still on a IBM OS/2 Mainframe here on site with tape backups and all that stuff you would expect, to a cloud, modern, GUI instead of Command Line, database and front end for both staff and students

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and its....... huge

vocal elm
viral star
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so its impossible to keep track of all that

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you need these meetings so we all can mesh. somebody says something about something you are working on and you got to be there to go WHAT, WAIT

golden crystal
viral star
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and if we dont, it just... messes the bed

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its fun. buts its stressfull. time constraints, and delays on that

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lots of programming

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because nothing just.... transfers

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and its millions of dollars

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somebody messes up, we get pushed back a day, the whole thing gets pushed back a day, a week.... got to get it ready for students in Fall

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just... stress

golden crystal
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I have my final exam on monday... have to repeat the basics again to prepare... SQL, NoSQL, Syntax basics, and so on...

viral star
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good skills

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SQL is very valuable

golden crystal
#

Yea... but for me it's just repeating what I already know ^^

viral star
#

programming is programming, the logic is always the same, just the syntax changes

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for the most part

golden crystal
viral star
#

OS/2 is COBOL and uses JCL so you have to understand dataset structures, allocated memory spacing. where its stored, ect... so its not just making a file, its how you make a file

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but once you get that too your gold

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programs are just programs, but once you get into mainframes its all about efficiency

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they have a different way programs communicate with memory, and how they are stored, for speed

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but in the end its still just a database so SQL is what we use for isntance to parse said data from the mainframe most of the time

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a COBOL program can process say... 40 million records in a few minutes. whereas the SQL doing the same would take days. But the SQL being what it is can parse the info in seconds for a data set

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I geeked everyone outa here I think

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good talk

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Sorry Kira. Im not a perfect person, didnt mean to ruffle your feathers tonight.

viral star
# lethal rune like maybe it was this video, usa got shafted for good farmland and basically ha...

Okay so I finally watched this a bit. It's clearly not a legitimate source of information, be that beside the fact, going on what he says, theyre talking about the soil quality existing in a existing forest that has never been touched by agriculture. Rip out all the trees, burn the stumps, rip out the roots, till the soil. Farm it for a few years... It's amazing what crops pull out of the soil. But not surprisingly its the same patch of ancient ocean that makes the US plains so fertile. What I'm trying to say is, you want to boast its better than US, but your barely virgin to being its caretaker as crop growing land. Unworthy comparison at the least.

golden crystal
viral star
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dangit man I was writing my epitaph

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now i cant ditch you

golden crystal
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Ah you can, because I have to read a little bit. xD

tepid burrow
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actually i saw it as -you geeked out ON everyone here..we gamers everyone some sorta geek

viral star
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gamers dont know anything about programming

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thats a different level

viral star
golden crystal
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My first programming was in / for Warcraft3, Enfo, Footy, TowerDefence and Dota Maps. 😄

viral star
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because Dota never became a thing

tepid burrow
golden crystal
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Well WC3 was the birthplace for Dota / LoL, never liked to play it, but loved to make the maps. ^^

viral star
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we are all geeks, we are here

viral star
golden crystal
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I once geeked out over Warcraft lore to my then girlfriend, she liked it so much I had to tell her Warcraft lore as a bed time story from that point onwards... deercat_derp

viral star
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Yeah thats where I messed up

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I married a woman that had none of those things

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but she had legs

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and love

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(i should clarify because of previous nonsense, i mean that with no perversion)

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I like what you said about your girlfriend but I feel theres nothing I can add to it without intruding

golden crystal
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Was just the geeking out part, happens to most of us, if one is invested in something it's easy to get hyped by the own words and start lamenting about it. But out in the internet are many people liking things like that. 😄

tepid burrow
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my sons dad introduced me to EQ..i was tabletop pen and paper before that..20 odd years later here i am {i still do tabletop and pen n paper though, imma dice goblin}

viral star
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I had a girlfriend once that saw my computer after months of dating and kinda freaked out. She wasnt very tech savvy and never saw me as that, even though I was.

viral star
tepid burrow
viral star
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actually looks pretty cool. but again you need a good Dungeon Master

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steam has Table Top Simulator, which is what most my friends use

golden crystal
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I have a friendgroup using "Tabletop Simulator" to play D&D online. I bought it too, because I wanted to start with them, but never really did. ^^

viral star
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^

warm gull
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everyone can play dnd but not everyone can dm

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have had so many poopy dms

viral scarab
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DMing is a LOT of work to do right

warm gull
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mhm

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wait can we

viral star
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i didnt see nothing

warm gull
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ruh roh

viral star
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quick delete the evidence

viral scarab
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Mostly no. There are a few low level ones that are fine, but we like to keep things family friendly.

golden crystal
#

Spam Frogs, so one one will see it... at first sight! Frog_happy

warm gull
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is piss allowed

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piss is very entrenched in my vernacular

viral star
#

I wasnt concerned until now

tepid burrow
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my son DMs, he is on spectrum {what used to be called high functioning aspergers} and has a disturbing knack for recal but thinks very outside box. {never play mtg with him, he knows the cards}

viral scarab
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You'll know what's not allowed because it'll block your messages from even sending. It's pretty clear

warm gull
#

oh sick

golden crystal
viral scarab
warm gull
viral star
golden crystal
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Anyone of you watch "Tales of stinky dragon" on YT? I love their Tabletop adventures with videos 😄

warm gull
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it's called autism spectrum disorder now cause mr asperger was a terrible horrible man

tepid burrow
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yeah my spawn is highly functioning, he is 23 holds down a job..but we deal with ocd and obsession sight daily

warm gull
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deeds very much not family friendly

viral star
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i got blocke Zerax le that one through

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wow that came out messed up

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see thats just rediculous.... but anyways, there were many words now for what we call now handicapable, oh wait, now its intellectualy disability. ugh. Dont think they care that much

viral scarab
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Yeah, the mods get notified any time messages get blocked (and some that are allowed through). Just keep things family friendly and regularly friendly and you'll be fine.

warm gull
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automod my beloved

viral star
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I know you got it, but you saw the context

warm gull
#

im gonna say what asperger was and did and then delete it is that cool or shall i just drop it

viral star
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or itll just block you possibly

viral scarab
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I'd say just drop it. If people are interested, they can look it up elsewhere

warm gull
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yeye i suggest u look it up tho

tepid burrow
#

drop if they dont deal with anyone on spectrum no need to know

viral scarab
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Not really necessary for a gaming discord 😝

warm gull
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ya agreed

viral star
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this is the Tavern

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we talk about farts and the comparison with shroud

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confirmed by Dev's

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its just a greasy ice rink in here

warm gull
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why don't we have a tankard emoji

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how are we meant to clink beers

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smh

viral star
#

yes, there should be a flat faced bloke on the deck emoji

golden crystal
#

My cousin is a "mentally challenged person" mostly called the "r" word (blocked on this server). But not in a bad way, he is 40 now but his brain will never develop more than like 15/16 years old. And he is like, yea, that's me. He don't give a flyfart about how someone calls him, as long as you don't plan to insult him with the words.

tepid burrow
viral star
#

exactly what Lime said

hardy kindle
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Happy Friday gang Frog_happy

viral star
#

Frog

viral scarab
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Yeah, it's also good for kids, helps them learn math and engage and problem solve in ways that are very natural

golden crystal
#

A wild frog appeared Welcome! 😄

viral star
#

I feel a restriction on the word Re.ardation is an inhibit on general conversation. Though I would agree a block on just the shorthand would be worthy. Is there a say to accept one without the other?

tepid burrow
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Hes been playing since..I want to say 6 yrs old, He was doing MTG back then too

warm gull
#

bypassing the automod might be against the rules

hardy kindle
#

maybe it's time to change topic xD

viral star
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everyone knows what im talking about nymph

tepid burrow
viral star
#

hmm

golden crystal
viral star
#

in no derogitory manner were either of us using that word; we were having a conversation about intellectually disabled or otherwise alternate wordage in other counties

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Where does the He/Him/Her/She situation land I wonder

hardy kindle
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the term itself has a derogatory connotation, that is the issue. It's simply outdated

tepid burrow
viral star
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used in a derogitory manner yes, but the connotation is purely political

golden crystal
warm gull
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and many people have expressed discomfort over being described as that which is why they've asked people not to use it

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similar issue with the use of exonyms for groups of people

golden crystal
viral star
#

I could say, Frog, You could care less of a fly. and it would be taken a derogatory. Its all in the manner in which its used. Point is I think the filter is nannying a bit hard on that one. But I understand how it was configured, it was just using the first part of the word and not the whole

warm gull
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frogs are pretty cool

tepid burrow
viral star
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I'm quickly going to talk myself into trouble.

warm gull
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they breathe through their skin

viral star
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Should probably just get out of here

warm gull
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and have 3 chambered hearts (we have 4 chambered hearts)

viral star
#

Used to smoke on airplanes and grocery stores

golden crystal
tepid burrow
viral star
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Now if you somke anywhere near a public park you can get a ticket

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in half a lifetime things change like that

hardy kindle
#

I can see your point but the reason the ban is there isn't going to change
and yeah no need to discuss it

warm gull
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i caught a frog once and kept it in a soup pot over night

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woke up and it was gone

hardy kindle
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it was a magical frog

warm gull
#

i think he turned invisible

golden crystal
viral star
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Frog: keep up the good work

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and dont ever show up earlier than this

pastel oyster
subtle prawn
golden crystal
#

Kira is back awake, that was merely 2 hours! 😮

viral star
#

Yup time for me to leave. Adios amigos

gentle forum
pastel oyster
#

lol I didn't sleep yet.

golden crystal
viral star
#

Always is my friend. later

golden crystal
viral star
#

i TOLD you

floral helmBOT
#

If your name starts with the letter S, you’re out. Go to sleep.

warm gull
#

wuh

hardy kindle
warm gull
#

bye sophia i guess

golden crystal
#

Good night Support Bot!

hardy kindle
warm gull
#

now im getting sleepy it's only 9am

gentle forum
#

It’s 3am, nearly 4am. Is this normal sleep schedule, asking for a friend.

hardy kindle
#

it is not

warm gull
#

no

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ur gonna shrink

gentle forum
#

I didn’t like that answer, so I’ll ignore it.

golden crystal
subtle prawn
pastel oyster
#

ROFL - Did Froggy just hint at me to go to bed too? 🤣

tepid burrow
warm gull
#

bots cant lie

subtle prawn
gentle forum
#

My therapist told me yesterday that I have not “beaten my mental illness” and I cannot stop taking my meds.

pastel oyster
subtle prawn
warm gull
golden crystal
gentle forum
#

I think she was lying to me. I beat it 😏

gentle forum
warm gull
golden crystal
#

Because they are made by humans!

pastel oyster
gentle forum
pastel oyster
subtle prawn
golden crystal
gentle forum
#

I’m being gaslit. Mods, off with their heads.

warm gull
#

gaslight gatekeep girlboss

gentle forum
#

Head’s? Is it possessive

warm gull
#

heads

gentle forum
#

My head’s head?

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This hurts my head.

warm gull
#

your head or your heads

tepid burrow
#

dont type with your face then

gentle forum
#

I’m using eye tracking on iOS 18 ™️

golden crystal
#

I wanted to write something funny... but I'm lost for words...

gentle forum
#

I hope you find them

golden crystal
#

Na, I'm good. They needed a vacation anyways. ^^

tepid burrow
#

better lost forwords than backwords i always say

golden crystal
#

how can one loose backwords? english is confusing.

warm gull
#

it's a pun

tepid burrow
#

american english suuucks, every country speaks it better than the US, we lazy

golden crystal
tepid burrow
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well my joke was poor grammar, so say if you didnt get the jest, i thought you did though since you said loose not lose

golden crystal
tepid burrow
#

im a mom our jokes are always worse than we think

warm gull
#

it's ok i liked the joke

golden crystal
#

If I ever get a Mole as a pet, I will call him Avocado.

warm gull
#

NO

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call him

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Avogadro

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Avogadro's number

golden crystal
#

But, Guacamole is made out of Avocado... 😮

warm gull
#

but the mole of a substance is Avogadro's number

golden crystal
warm gull
#

it's the number of atoms per mole

elder parrot
#

Aldens number and coconut island on enshrouded chat?
Is horses and fashion-arc next? Sus 🤔 ^^

golden crystal
#

This are Jokes i try to build in my game. I love this kind of nonsence 😄

warm gull
#

i am ready for horses and fashion and horse fashion

elder parrot
#

^^ its a bunch of references

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Depending on where people spend their youtube-time ^^

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Also good morning ^^

pastel oyster
#

you know that gif of Cary Elwes blinking. Yeah, imagine that right now.

elder parrot
#

I am in a semi rush and should get ready, thats why im having a smoke and are on tablets discord, obviously ^^

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Ive a thingie to attend for supporting rsmh where ive worked (its the national organization for social and mental health) ^^

fossil parcel
pastel oyster
#

and I just found out it's not Cary Elwes. my world has been torn asunder.

elder parrot
#

Its prolly not stånk-tommy either ^^

fossil parcel
pastel oyster
#

that gif is apparently some guy named Drew Scanlon... seriously. world = upside down.

elder parrot
#

rushes

gentle forum
#

If I was a worm would you guys still like me?

hardy kindle
#

even more so

gentle forum
golden crystal
hardy kindle
#

pssst don't tell him

gentle forum
#

(Even if they eat you I suppose)

golden crystal
#

Snack like in... ahm... aah.... A beatiful man! (?)

vapid canopy
#

mornin Frog!

hardy kindle
#

hello Frog_happy

gentle forum
#

If I ever gain access to a Time Machine, I think I’d go back to April 22nd 2001.

subtle prawn
#

Why that date?

golden crystal
gentle forum
#

No one knows, really?

golden crystal
#

AH!

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But why would you? want to squeeze yourself in a cinema with sticky and loud kids to watch the best movie of all times? x)

gentle forum
golden crystal
#

NO! You want to sit there and shout the movieplot the moment the film starts. And spoil it for everyone!

gentle forum
#

Shh, I’m watching Shrek.

golden crystal
gentle forum
#

I have bee movie too somewhere

golden crystal
#

Oh my...

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Is it bad, that I don't need the sound to know what exactly is spoken?

gentle forum
#

It’s a masterpiece.

tepid burrow
#

please say we all arent staring at micro shrek

elder parrot
#

Its very bright out here, could you all like.. type brighter and more visible? ^^

subtle prawn
#

Sorry I'm too dark to do that

warm gull
#

turn on light mode

elder parrot
#

Cant turn on light mode, its a crime ^^

subtle prawn
#

Light mode is a horror story and not an option

elder parrot
#

True ^^

quasi saffron
#

Good uh...
Sheesh. Already afternoon... deercat_derp
Meetings kill very boring time

low kite
#

Eh, I'm at work bored out my mind preparing for work trip the entire next week, with a stay in a vacation apartment.

That's gonna be fun (not).

warm gull
#

im in bed sick

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womp womp

golden crystal
subtle prawn
golden crystal
golden crystal
subtle prawn
#

Denied

golden crystal
subtle prawn
#

That is no proof

golden crystal
#

I just learned, why prices end mostly on 99 cents. One of the reasons where: Pricing with amounts like 9.99€ forces cashiers to open the register to give change, ensuring that every sale is properly recorded. This was historically a method to ensure the honesty of cashiers and minimize the risk of theft. In modern times, this practice continues to support accurate accounting and monitoring of sales.

#

Now you have learned something totally useless, but you learned it.

carmine scroll
#

imteresting. not the story i heard but it makes more sense.

#

i still hate it though.

warm gull
#

99 just feels so much cheaper than 1.00

subtle prawn
#

How about 98 then?

pseudo palm
#

Morning everyone ☀️

#

How's the day going?

warm gull
#

98 even better

#

afternoon

golden crystal
carmine scroll
fluid knot
#

hey guys, i am trying to make a loki build

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anything viable comes to mind?

#

obv i am going dagger and some kind of magic

restive quarry
#

Define viable

fluid knot
#

wont die if i see an enemy 3 lvls above me

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or manage to kill it before runnig out of weapon durability

quasi saffron
#

That'll be hard. In the end they'll be 5 levels up deercat_derp

restive quarry
#

I feel like mixing daggers with magic is a bad idea considering the investment you need to have daggers deal decent damage.

quasi saffron
#

And "casting" just takes a fair bit of time

restive quarry
#

And if you also want survivability that's tank tree.

fluid knot
#

dang

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are there magic daggers or something in the game?

restive quarry
#

daggers are weapons for bow users mostly. They also have synergies with sneak or merciless attacks.

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They're far from magic.

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But a build like this might work, won't be the best around, might or not be viable though, that'll be up to you to tell us :D

fluid knot
#

kek

#

i will look

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btw can i craft a well?

warm gull
#

gun

fluid knot
#

what

#

oh i got a better question. does well water end? i cant seem to get it after 5 waters

elder parrot
#

One day cycle and wells replenish

#

You get first craftable well from carpenter a bit into the progression #nonspoiler

#

Tip is to craft 10-20 wells when you can ^^

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You will want to grow/gather alot of flax flowers

fluid knot
#

thx

lethal rune
# viral star Okay so I finally watched this a bit. It's clearly not a legitimate source of in...

it was a video like this not sure if it's the video i saw. but the extremely fertile land in canada is not all covered by forest. it's being used. the thin strip in alberta/sk is all being used. we have similar land in toronto that's all being used for farming. "The Aspen Parkland is characterized by farmland, towns and large urban centres (Figure 3). It includes some of the most productive agricultural land in Canada and produces a wide variety of crops, including canola, alfalfa and wheat. Cultivation of land for pasture is also widespread."

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basically there was a video about how montana has farmland but it wasn't as fertile as this thin strip in alberta right above it

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so canada got lucky with their borders

hardy kindle
#

who's ready for the weekend?

#

I for sure am

lethal rune
#

"Great changes have taken place in the ecology of the aspen parkland since
it was invaded by man. Dominant animals and plants have been
greatly reduced in numbers and many communities have been destroyed. Their
places have been taken by the herds and crops of the settlers and their associ-
ated weeds and insect pests. Certain native species, however, have increased
in numbers at the expense of those less adaptable. Conditions continue to
change with the introduction of new farming methods. Oxen gave way to
horses, which were in turn replaced by tractors. The swather and combine
took the place of the binder and thresher; the plow was supplanted by the one-
way disk. New methods and implements are continually being introduced.
These man-made ecological changes are superimposed on changes that are
taking place continuously without the intervention of man."

lol so yeah it's probably not ALL trees. https://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2013/aac-aafc/agrhist/A43-1066-1961-eng.pdf

warm gull
#

i am not ready for the weekend because i have to prepare for 4 back to back labs

#

womp womp

pliant quarry
#

How goes everyone's friday?

pliant quarry
ionic hemlock
pliant quarry
#

Were you at least done with it or did you have more stuff that needed drilling and nothing to drill it with lol

ionic hemlock
#

Not done but I have more drills

warm gull
#

i just have to make a load of ethanoic acid

#

& look at some little fellas

#

it's the paperwork that's the hard part deercat_cozy

pseudo palm
elder parrot
#

Weekend starts now for me, finally home - got nommy sodas in the fridge, good food-building stuff in freezer and smokies in the cupboard. ^^ breathes out

elder parrot
warm gull
#

i wish

#

50% of my grade comes from that paperwork

#

warhghhhh

elder parrot
#

Its typical in so many fields, the extra paperwork put on less people, i feel.

warm gull
#

for stem it makes a lot of sense

#

u gotta document exactrly what u did so if something goes wrong they can blame u

#

it's also just useful

#

i hope to head into research some day and that's literally all paperwork

pliant quarry
#

The academics/paperwork is the entire reason I chose not to get into psychiatry even though I wanted to lol

Love the field, don't love 8 years of school+debt and 4 years of residency after that before you can start practicing

#

now I work in videogames cause you don't need to go to school hehehe

fair verge
#

was the banners moved away from the carpenter?

noble anchor
#

Yes, to the Bard.

fossil parcel
#

@golden crystal you called it

calm pulsar
#

What about you, @pliant quarry?

pliant quarry
#

Pretty chill day here, just holdin down the fort and watching all the social medias

elder parrot
#

Any death threats yet? ^^

#

Bearded old men in robes coming waving their wands angrily,
But making 0 damage to the team since they nerfed them moahaha ^^

pliant quarry
#

...yet? deercat_derp

fossil parcel
elder parrot
#

^^

#

Im.. not an optimist erryday ^^

warm gull
#

ellis what are u planning...

elder parrot
#

And i still read steam forums too much, i see the tone there ^^

pliant quarry
#

Steam forums users want to kill everybody that's normal

strong summit
#

Honestly the wand nerf feels like it's completely being overexaggerated to me... Unless you're literally using nothing but wand and not using staff+spells too anyway...

elder parrot
#

Sticks are for bonking, not waving around!

strong summit
#

The main damage of mage has never been wand, it's always been spells...

elder parrot
#

The wands and staffs all become runes for me anyways ^^

warm gull
#

ya i think it rebalances things

fossil parcel
fair verge
pliant quarry
fossil parcel
elder parrot
#

Then we melee people will yell and want our swords to shoot lazers and.., jk ^^

pliant quarry
warm gull
#

magic swords with projectiles r great

elder parrot
#

I feel melee has a good mid-diff balance.
Will just be fun when there are more types to find ^^

pliant quarry
#

Look at like, the baldurs gate 3 steam forums for example if you don't believe me. It's always so negative lol

elder parrot
#

Yeah. Bg3 and starfield both was horrible!

#

The forums

#

On steam

#

^^

fossil parcel
pliant quarry
#

the "clown bait" problem doesn't help at all either

elder parrot
#

Its also baffling for me companies let steam forums keep horrid threads on central steam be there in recent threads for months sometimes. Gives such an unproffesional view if someone isnt used to the fud.

fossil parcel
strong summit
#

I was trying to point out that poison is a general non-issue because of antisceptic and cleaned bandages now removing poison and people were blowing up at me over it on the forums. e.e Like, you have to fight ONE matron, that is level 9 I believe. And then you can get the antisceptic and bandages. And that's if you don't find any prior. I found a couple by the edge of the Revelwoods/Highlands border.

#

Who would have guessed not bringing antidotes to a fight with an enemy that primarily uses poison would end badly for you. I mean really. e.e

pliant quarry
#

lmao I went to the baldurs gate 3 forums and looked at the first obvious troll bait post I saw, and the same user also posted this thread a month ago

Surely just a coincidence and has nothing to do with clown awards being a thing...

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elder parrot
#

Steam should remove the reactions idea to posts, its usually 90% makes more flames

fossil parcel
strong summit
#

And also, by the time you are even at the point where you would be fighting that matron you probably have a dozen or more skull vessels you could throw at the person to basically kill her without even risking poison to you...

#

That's how I killed her with my new character.

elder parrot
#

I melee around the matrons

strong summit
#

It's like, people don't want to use strategy, or think to defeat stuff...

elder parrot
#

With enough stamina you can get behind them and poision

strong summit
#

Yeah.

elder parrot
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I sword their bums ^^

strong summit
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There's plenty of ways to kill them. Some more 'skill based' than others.

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The lazy thing is like what I did. throw a dozen skulls out to murder her while I just sit down and watch*

elder parrot
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When an oopsie its run away and potion, and then back to dance the matron again ^^

strong summit
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xD

fossil parcel
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Yeah Matrons like other enemies are predictable once you get your timing right. And after you avoid the double poison throw the rest is easy honestly

elder parrot
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Nauw, we all find our ways ^^

strong summit
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Either way, even if you can't predict them. It's pretty easy to dodge their vials... it's not like they are fast...

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Unless you get stuck on terrain anyway.

elder parrot
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Also the green dual sword weilders,
One just have to remember after blocking them, they will feign and quick attack right after your own first counter, its tense but exciting imo

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Or., run away and scream for a bit ^^

strong summit
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hah.

elder parrot
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Running back is part of the melee moveset, not to be forgotten ^^

strong summit
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In my case I usually just lure one over to nearby wildlife. be it rats or wolves or etc. I have the perks that makes nearby animals enraged if they see someone trying to hurt me >_>

fossil parcel
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Running away is always a valid strategy, especially if you skill the blink

strong summit
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Poison seems to do jack to npcs for some reason

fossil parcel
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after that, just come back and pick them apart

elder parrot
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^^

strong summit
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Oh, another funny thing I ran into...

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I went into...er... I forget what scavenger camp it was... but I found almost half the people in the entire camp were either dead or almost dead.

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As it turns out, bees do not like them >_>

elder parrot
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Good bees ❤️

strong summit
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There was a hive in the base and a swarm of bees was regularly coming out of it and murdering them all xD

fossil parcel
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Muahahahah nature fights back! 😄

strong summit
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but they didn't bother me because of the beastmaster perks.

elder parrot
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New skilltree, bee-keeper! ^^

strong summit
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but seriously. it was just a single hive. The fact it murdered over half the base was hilarious.

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I think it was the hill of scavengers.

elder parrot
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I love them early, cus i need scrap.
I hate them lategame cus i want like bars of tin or other rng,
But their containers are 95% metal scrap ^^

strong summit
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just wish the game would recognize animals as proper 'allies' or etc with the perks. I was basically a druid. I used wand/staff and had beastmaster perks. But having my wand damage friendly/allied animals because it critically hit a freaking fence and causing them to attack me is just stupid.

fair sundial
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Really sad to see they didn’t even acknowledge the green light issue. 😦

pliant quarry
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The one with the glowing green blocks?

fair sundial
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Yes toast

strong summit
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They did acknowledge it in the patch notes

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Literally said 'it's not you, it's them'

pliant quarry
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I thought we aknowledged it somewhere but maybe not, but yes it's on our radar

fair sundial
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Ok thanks

strong summit
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You absolutely did

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BUT ALSO
We are still investigating an issue with green luminescent blocks emitting too much light. It’s not you, it’s them.

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from the patch notes.

pliant quarry
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Ah yeah I couldn't remember if we said that in the patch notes or not, I remember aknowledging it on reddit

strong summit
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Yep.

pliant quarry
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It's easy to miss things like that buried in patch notes though

fair sundial
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You guys are great, havnt stopped playing since launch. Masterpiece of a builder

strong summit
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So far my only real complaints is that my lore pages in Kindlewastes have disappeared from my journal, there seems to be a second page in Val's Valiant Tales? And they never fixed the 'Banishment'/Exiled lore not showing up in the hollow journal. xD Oh, and that there are like... five daggers that can't be legendary quality or something?

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I'm a lore junkie/collector of stuff. So having it removed or not added properly bugs me >:

fossil parcel
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No the Exiled was fixed afaik, I had it before the latest update. I had Kindlewastes lore disappear too, I'm sure the devs are on it

strong summit
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Odd... I might have to try going back to read it again, because it was not added to my journal prior to the blackmire update...

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in spite of having read it, and it not having a red glow

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...Crap. where was it again?

fossil parcel
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I remember finding it after a long search in East Lapis, it was glowing red and it was added to the lore list after reading it. Now it's not again, and if I go back there the paper is considered "read" and not glowing anymore

strong summit
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Yeah, east lapis.

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Although the wiki says hollow halls...

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I forgot where in east lapis though... Grr

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Also has anyone found the second page to Val's valiant tales or whatever?

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Cause the journal now says there is a second but...

fossil parcel
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yeah it says that, but it's wrong for that specific page

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I think I've found it in the Mire, let me check

strong summit
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I am reasonably sure that the exiled is in east lapis somewhere, or nearby. But... I'm not 100% sure since I got it a long time ago

sonic field
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Dude they need to add an assassin skill tree! I wanna backstab with daggers and stealth

strong summit
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They...literally have one

fossil parcel
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Yes, it is 100% above ground in East Lapis, in a building, and not in the local HH

strong summit
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Speaking of daggers though, their sneak attacks seem really brutal compared to other weapons. Do they have some kind of innate damage bonus that isn't listed?

fossil parcel
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Going to search! 😄

strong summit
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The crappy thing is I have no idea where to even start to look for it, or if it's even properly in the game. xD

fossil parcel
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The first one was in the Blue Goblet tavern, so it could be everywhere on the map

strong summit
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The blue goblet wasn't even on the map until recently

elder parrot
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If archers gets dex-daggers,
Will melee'ers get smol strenght based crossbows or something, hmm? For fairness

(Tho i dont mind for real tho ^^ i dont need to pewpew)

fossil parcel
strong summit
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I said 'on the map'

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Meaning there was no icon

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not that it didn't exist

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I actually put a manual icon for it prior to the update xD

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Okay... read banishment...still wasn't added to my lore. So for me at least, it's still bugged. >:

elder parrot
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time to get back to enshrouded ^^
need to flax to make more wells to grow more flax,
and i need to burn copper ore to mix with tin to get more bronze
but i also need sand to get more smelters.

^^ time to be strong woman and get to grind!

fossil parcel
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Sand is easy at least 😄

strong summit
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Honestly, I think some of the farming recipes are just stupidly overly convoluted. Like, "I take fruit from this tree. Why do I need 5 other things just to make seeds out of it?"

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Because when you combine the time it takes for the plants to fully grow, and all the materials required to make the seeds, it's often easier and faster to just farm the stuff in the wild...

ancient bane
strong summit
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Howso? When you can build a piddly level 1 flame altar near a source. Log in, grab, log out, repeat.

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no resources required to make seeds. no time waiting for the plants to grow.

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My statement is in no way false whatsoever

fossil parcel
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But you are exploiting the system in that way, it's like using devcommands on valheim to generate resources fast

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If you want to play full survival, you have to take the time to do all the steps to get what you want

strong summit
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The world resetting is literally a feature of the game.

sonic field
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how is the stealth in this game?

strong summit
fossil parcel
strong summit
sonic field
strong summit
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Like the hollow halls? It's almost impossible to stealth in them because there are sheer hordes of skeletons.

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and narrow hallways where you pretty much cannot sneak

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And in some cases the skeletons are 100% always looking towards the entrance so... you literally cannot get in unseen.

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But like you said, if you want to do the purist route and grow everything? Whatever you find fun.

fossil parcel
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For some others you are not, and your statement is true.

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So it's a matter of point of views and no more, it's useless to fight on such points because you'll never be able to convince the other that you're right and he is not.

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So, I say, just play, and that's it ^^

strong summit
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Thing is, it's not cheating at all. You don't have to use any mods, third party programs, or anything. That isn't an opinion, that's an objective fact. The game mechanics are that you log out, the world resets. Now if you have your own server and you make your own 'house rules'? that's another story.

sonic field
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so u think it's worth the buy, if im looking to backstab and stealth majority of the time? or wait for some updates?

strong summit
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Hmm... I personally have enjoyed the stealth gameplay of the game yeah. especially if you lure enemies into their own traps and stuff. You CAN use arrows and etc to distract enemies too.

fossil parcel
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Does it means that, in general, you are cheating? No, it doesn't. It's all on perspective and point of views, no more, no less.

strong summit
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I personally consider 'cheating' to be if you are breaking the actual game rules itself or doing stuff that you flat out normally cannot do at all. EG: enabling godmode, flying, etc.

pliant quarry
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I mean you can set whatever rules for yourself you want, including using mods, logout cheesing (or not), etc. We're not cops

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Personally I think the logout cheese is very... Not fun? But I also get why some people do it if they really want to chase the best gear possible. I don't like doing it in my playthroughs though.

strong summit
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I do it in some cases, specifically because farming is not fun at all.

fossil parcel
strong summit
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Spend 5 minutes waiting for seed to turn into sapling at the garden thing, spend 15 minutes waiting for the damn plant to grow period... this isn't fun for me. xD

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But it is worth noting that without any world resetting mechanics, the entire world would end up empty very fast. To my knowledge stuff doesn't really respawn

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So you'd almost never be able to really get many things, especially armor sets...

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But yeah, I apologize if i seemed to come off as a bit abraisive.

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I completely agree that this is a game so you should play in ways that you find fun. (Unless that includes griefing people in the multiplayer games... that is a completely different story)

fossil parcel
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Well, if you play "hardmode" (that is, never logout/login) you have to wait for some time before everything pops back again.

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Plants regrow, chests reset, and all that, at least every "game day".

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I think the only resource that did not regrow was obsidian, for obvious reasons XD

strong summit
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Odd. Because I remember coming back to a chest at the oasis about 2-3 real life hours later...The chest was 'closed' but when I kicked it open nothing was in it etc...

fossil parcel
strong summit
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:

fossil parcel
strong summit
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Oh. Are Scavengers Humans by the way? Does anyone actually know? Reason I'm asking is because it's kind of annoying that they can just hang out in the shroud for hours without any consequence but you die in like 10 minutes.

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Cause there are multiple places where there are scavengers near or inside the shroud. and they don't take any damage or anything from being in it. |:

fossil parcel
strong summit
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Wait, does it show up in any of the lore pages? I could probably read it for myself then. xD

fossil parcel
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It was quite interesting

strong summit
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Yeah. the Matrons are... Disturbing.

fossil parcel
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Yep, honestly after you read about them you understand that they are one of the most... horrifying things about the story of the game

strong summit
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I do wonder exactly what the heck the Elixir is made out of exactly, and why you can't find any of the actual liquid of the elixir itself, even in the elixir wells. Only pre-bottled stuff. xD

fossil parcel
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That's in the lore too, a good explanation on what actually the Elixir is is given by the Alchemist. Another very interesting read

strong summit
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The shroud seems to be some kinda weird ass mushroom that more or less highjacks the entire DNA of whatever breathes it in. Almost reminds me of that fungus that turns animals into aggressive zombies etc

fossil parcel
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Honestly, this to the devs, the lore of this game is sooo good!! fell_justright

strong summit
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Yeah. I agree.

viral scarab
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It's always given me Nausicaa vibes, which is definitely not a bad thing.

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I'm waiting for them to add a lush area just called "Valley of the Wind" or something 😝

strong summit
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Although I will say it's kind of weird that you are supposedly this magical creature powered by fire, but you can apparently die to a campfire if you walk through it >_>

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Flameborn: walks through a campfire they put down
Also Flameborn: burns to death
Flameborn: FLAME, WHY HAVE YOU BETRAYED ME?

fossil parcel
strong summit
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Like I dunno it just feels like you should have some kind of natural resistance to fire or something xDDD

fossil parcel
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Yeah I mean, dear Ancients could you have prepared these vessels in a better way? C'mon! 😄

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ancients reappear and wipe us off the map XD

strong summit
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I will say one thing though...

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If they are going to make some kinda last ditch legendary hero to save the world...

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Why the hell put them with little more than rags on their backs, no weapons, no food, no anything in the place you keep them etc. |:

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Like c'mon wtf man. you're gonna make this thing that is supposed to save the world and then just "Yeah... Why should we supply them with weapons or armor? That's too much work."

viral scarab
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If I recall correctly, the plan was for you to wake up after a few years, not like... untold hundreds

strong summit
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Feels like training soldiers irl, spending 3-8 years doing so, and then 'Oh we aren't gonna give you a gun or anything.'

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Yeah, but still, you don't find any stockpiles of weapons,decayed or otherwise in the place you wake up at. So they literally didn't give you anything xD

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Meanwhile survivors? Wake up and have hammers, lutes, full sets of clothing, etc,etc

fossil parcel
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instead now we don't even know how many years have passed, probably hundreds

strong summit
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Honestly though, I really would like to see the game world before everything went to hell basically. Cause they have some potentially beautiful looking cities.

viral scarab
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Yeah, I imagine it to be more of an emergency "get in the pod" scenario than a "carefully prepared with everything in place" scenario

strong summit
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That'd make kind of a cool pre-quel game honestly.

viral scarab
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Bonus points if it's reversible with one side pre-calamity and other side post-calamity

fossil parcel
fossil parcel
pliant quarry