references♥_1450-1470

[vocal vale]

yeah i figured that that one component oughta blast it into the future a few years

[restive geyser]

What arma mods you run with?

[terse bronze]

rn spearhead and northern front & iron front mainly

doing a finland vs urss antistasi campaign

[restive geyser]

Arma 3?

[terse bronze]

yes

[restive geyser]

Rn I play Arma reforger, usually do Bushwar and the usual Gulf War

[restive geyser]

Arma 3 ww2 mods are so much better imo than Arma reforgers

I miss the Spanish civil war servers

[coral path]

😉

❓

this one is appropriate

not any of the others tho

[vocal vale]

the goat

[white fulcrum]

omg it's the Fake History Hunter off that ye olde Twitte

[bright token]

Hell yeah french armour

What kind of helmet do you think the knight in red coat is wearing? It looks like great bascinet to me.
Saved this from medieval advisor’s facebook page

[restive geyser]

The visor reminds me of a sallet

[robust tendon]

great bassinet i think as well

[robust tendon]

important to remember visors dont define what helmets are

[fleet junco]

the houndskull

srg

[robust tendon]

blueman

[restive geyser]

Dats true

[silver heart]

visor and tail are defo reminiscent of a sallet but as for the ‘bevor’ it does strike me as great bascinet esque. what is the original source?

also, could someone source this? i’m pretty sure i originally got it from here but that was also eight months ago.

[restive geyser]

It's a painting of the auto-da-fè iirc

Scrap that, wrong

[restive geyser]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AQuc3aq9o/

Here the facebook post of it

[fast pagoda]

https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/francesco-pesellino-the-story-of-david-and-goliath

[desert acorn]

thank you for the correction. i was kind of being lazy for finding source material or era and grabbed some images i thought were funny looking

[coral path]

all good things dude

[restive geyser]

All good things dude

🦧

[coral path]

[restive geyser]

We need more Iberian armor

[desert acorn]

but it still stands to reason we WILL be aura farming like that when tempered armor fully releases

[coral path]

we should have the option to blue armour in the "adjust armour" with the armour smith

[desert acorn]

WHAT

YES

[restive geyser]

I would love for more i guess "ludicrous" armor sets.

Stuff from like the Pastrana Tapestries and All'antica but i doubt it

[desert acorn]

can we do the tempering range of colors?

[coral path]

we should also have a tailor

[restive geyser]

I would like it if we could alter some types of doublets

Like the basic doublet, have it untied, rolled sleeves or whatever

[coral path]

make our own scheckes and stuff

I also want to be able to adjust rivets on helmets

decorate our armour

[restive geyser]

Maheutres!! When?!?

[robust tendon]

we need more fancy civilian fashion

slashed maheutres…

[restive geyser]

I hate that they removed doublets with Maheutres...

Like why

It was literally my favorite doublet in demo :d

[coral path]

North German
Second half of the 15th century

[bright token]

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1242326441327342&set=pcb.1242332194660100

source of the pic

[coral path]

Bernt Notke's workshop
Dating: 1489

Second half of the 15th century, North German

Second half of the 15th century
North German

[mellow zealot]

3rd image text in the left bottom:
84/89
Prima officina Missaglia
per Francesco Missaglia
Gran bacinetto alla francese;
intorno al 1445/50
Sluderno-Schluderns, CH 19
google translate:
84/89
First Missaglia workshop
for Francesco Missaglia
Large French-style bascinet;
around 1445/50
Sluderno-Schluderns, CH 19

Great/Grand Bascinet.
Dated: 1450 - 1475.
Located: Southern Germany or Austria.
Institution: Unknown, part of a private collection.

Missaglia of Milan - ca 1450 - Churburg Castle

Helm of Frederick I, Italian - ca 1450 - Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna

by Conrad Treytz, Innsbruck - ca 1450-60 - Historisches Museum, Bern

sum great bascinets

[fleet junco]

@terse bronze what is that

[candid rapids]

a knight on a horse

[terse bronze]

what is what

[fleet junco]

the thingy

[terse bronze]

??

[mellow zealot]

which

[candid rapids]

i think hes talking about this

[terse bronze]

protectione

[fleet junco]

protectione

[lone osprey]

streiftartsche

[tall bough]

i would love for these types of helmets ingame

trypophobia my beloved

@vital stone

[coral path]

not accurate

[tall bough]

oh poop

[coral path]

although the first one is too late

[weak halo]

Yeah, I had a hard time finding only colander visors though

Most of them have eye slits

Stuff like these

[vocal vale]

i would venture to say the second one is too early too

[coral path]

I can see that

Im not well read about it

this would be fine

[coral path]

horse croissant

[lone osprey]

hoissant

[tight umbra]

looks tuff

[coarse temple]

In which century is the game based exactly?

[weak halo]

Mid to late 15th

[vivid solar]

brother read the channel title

[coarse temple]

hahahhaahahaha

dude, I can't believe I never realized

Thank you very much

[lone topaz]

silly guy from right around 1450

[pastel gust]

True..

[lone topaz]

https://klipy.com/gifs/zoolander-ben-stiller-8

[keen sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[unkempt rampart]

Embed fail

[tranquil gull]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[keen sequoia]

Morgan freeman true nodding gif

[tranquil gull]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[candid rain]

https://tenor.com/view/okurwa-kurwa-stachujones-stachu-jones-gif-13138130

[coral path]

wheres the references

[coral path]

1460-1470, 661 PO in Paris.

[lone topaz]

gigantic forehead on that bitch

[tall bough]

new pfp!!

[latent drift]

what country is this from

and or region

[royal wave]

It looks as if someone took their source material way too literally

[latent drift]

it does look a tad bit odd

[coral path]

The armour is definitely 1477-1490 iirc (Daniel von Mudersbach (died 1477) in the Dom of Limburg an der Lahn.) but "similar" armour is shown within half swords period (1450-1470)

[coral path]

wdym

it was a direct reconstruction of an effigy

[royal wave]

I was talking about the sallet

[terse bronze]

Yeah?

[coral path]

since Im being reacted

[unkempt rampart]

No leg harness?

[coral path]

half armour

half plate

wtvr

[prisma raven]

Coselete maxxing

[coral path]

had look look up some spanish 😂

didnt know that was the word for it lmao

[coral path]

on the right french armour arlert

the gorget looks very comfy

[fleet junco]

matt

[vocal vale]

mogged

[coral path]

when you see her again tell her I said hey lmaooo

[vocal vale]

i might in march

[coral path]

[vocal vale]

usually my mentor invites her because she taught him

[coral path]

jelous

[vocal vale]

she’s like my fencing grandma

[coral path]

oh damn

thats badass

[vocal vale]

we traded swords for a bout and mine is super long and hers is comparatively a lot shorter so i kept thrusting and missing by half inch increments and she kept stepping with thrusts when she didn’t need to and putting her body weight into like.. armpit stabs

[coral path]

spar of a lifetime in hema

bet you wont forget that lmao

[trail totem]

damn this looks badass

i hope they add middle eastern designs too or like mongol / timmurid designs

[vocal vale]

unfortunately very unrealistic for the game’s scope

[trail totem]

ah shucks welp if they ever add mods someone out there will make smh like that i hope

[night kindle]

The dude on the right in the first pic is the guy who I modeled my armor after :D

[eager mica]

oh shit it's matt easton from schola gladiatoria

[coarse temple]

Amazing YouTube channel, honestly

[prisma raven]

PEAK

[fleet junco]

panzerhose

[robust tendon]

peakerhose

[quaint shore]

Is this kastenbrust or some form of early peascod its tripping me up

[robust tendon]

kastenbrust

[coral path]

pretty much yeah

[quaint shore]

ok

[tranquil gull]

Armour names

[night kindle]

YEAHHHHHH

[tacit plaza]

Yall how thick should sword crossgaurds be?

[slate mulch]

thick enough

[quaint shore]

Yeah

[terse bronze]

So cool

[coral path]

absolutely badass kit from CarameL

[weak halo]

Aren't the frills going to get stuck in spaulders or pauldrons?

[coral path]

No.

[coral path]

old world armoury brigandine

[coral path]

1445-1450. From the Ulrich IX suit in Churburg. Weight: 19.3 Kg

The guantlets and helmet dont match the suit. Not sure about the rest of it.

Weight: 41.24 Kg. dude was about 2 meters tall (6'7)

[night kindle]

GAS

Idk maybe I’ll make something new bc I’m bored

[coral path]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-smiling-friends-charlie-smiling-friends-pim-pim-pimling-charlie-dompler-gif-8433658508173157316

[coral path]

gonna repost this

[fleet junco]

blume

[pure drum]

Whats that helmet in the middle picture with the two things sticking out on the top?

[coral path]

frogmouth

Jousting helm

[pure drum]

There a version of it used during battles?

[coral path]

wdym

[pure drum]

I might be a tiny bit confused by weren't jousting helmets used outside of battle for shows or competitions?

Its why I was wondering if there was a helmet that looks similar to it that was used during battles outside of those situations

[coral path]

I usually see great bascinets used in tournys only in the period

[pure drum]

Okay 👍

[coral path]

(unless if someone else has a source, ofc)

I dont want to spread misinfo so im not gonna answer directly

[slate mulch]

dude looks like a ghoul

[vivid solar]

@coral path how outdated are hounskull bascinets for the game's timeframe?

[quaint shore]

by like 40 years maybe

[coral path]

nah from what I understand is that they were used in the early 15th century and "went out of style" in around 1430s-1440s or so

[quaint shore]

somewhere around that

yea

[marsh river]

I actually love that sallet

freaking beautiful

[vocal vale]

i have never seen any in a non-antique source past 1420

[vocal vale]

personal opinion is ~55 years

though they began to "die out" ~65-70

[robust tendon]

personally i think some may still have been around in 1430 but thats just my opinion

perhaps in some regions

[prisma raven]

1436-1443, But yeah again a biblical scene with possible "archaic" elements

[vocal vale]

i mean we have a little bit of evidence for like scandinavian territories right?

[vocal vale]

with the way almost everybody is wearing one and a few of them notably have "crude" looking aventail-less ones i think its safe to say its an artistic device

[robust tendon]

yeah there's the paul dolnstein artwork which shows swedish peasants wearing them in 1502

[prisma raven]

Yeah I agree

[robust tendon]

so maybe it could be conjectured that, in sweden at least, they persisted throughout the 15th century? idk

[vocal vale]

there are rounded hounskull visors that seem to sustain into ~1470 but thats all i know for mainland europe

[prisma raven]

Also them Irish wearing bascinets even throughout all the 16th century

[robust tendon]

yea

[prisma raven]

Well yeah great bascinet were used throughout all the 15th C.

[vocal vale]

seems like their frequency decreases a lot past ~1440 but they're used up until 1470

[quaint shore]

Unless your irish

[vocal vale]

they're special

[quaint shore]

Yeah

Lamellar and bascinets in the 16th century FTWWW

[prisma raven]

Btw aventail-less bascients were pretty common in Iberia and Italy during the second half of the 14th C. and first decades of the 15th C.

[vocal vale]

same for italy

but mainly bascinets with projected cheeks

[prisma raven]

I love these

[coral path]

Ireland had their own stuff goin on

[quaint shore]

yea

[coral path]

this

[coral path]

I also think I saw a polish source around 1460 or 1470 with a bascinet

I cant prove it until I find it

[vivid solar]

1465-1470?

[vocal vale]

65-70 years before 1475 i meant

[vivid solar]

ah

[coral path]

https://discord.com/channels/1043854763189600337/1476404043197976617

[fleet junco]

poland somewhat mentioned!!! 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱

[lethal adder]

https://tenor.com/view/polska-better-call-saul-poland-november11th-11listopada-gif-23750177

[desert acorn]

Color tempered armor

[fleet junco]

john greenwich

[quaint shore]

oh my farb on some of these

[stark compass]

I know houndskull is super super outdated for the game, but when did the klappvisor die out?

[terse bronze]

klappvisiers can be hounskulls too btw

but essentially

some time before, roughly

[stark compass]

Isn’t it a thing likeevery hounskull is a klappvisor but not every klappvisor is a hounskull?

[terse bronze]

Althought there is some very few example of klappvisiers used in the early 15thc i'm thinking about those, but they're still quite marginal at that time

[terse bronze]

Klappvisiers refer to the mount, not the shape of the visor itself

the central forehead hinge is "klappvisier" but the visor shape can be a hounskull, or flat ect

[stark compass]

Wow that’s a really interesting design, almost like a sallet or barbute

[terse bronze]

yeah that's essentially what many people call proto/early barbute

[stark compass]

Ohhhhh, thanks for correcting me

[terse bronze]

(still technically a bascinet tho, but like, you can see where the "barbute" design is coming from)

[stark compass]

Yeah

[restive geyser]

Those are mostly showing Mongolias iirc

[lethal adder]

omg visored barbute... for honor was right all along....

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672299047301939221/1456380996147740712/5C57BF2C-A92F-4226-B479-E7DB8491B79D.gif

[coral path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055560006407303188/1333291872105533572/8mb.video-I36-6dk9qlpD.mp4?ex=69a11cd1&is=699fcb51&hm=041dc3fa13f99a81cee82621065ad5a3645cc0f06ad305e5f69e00265a3d2943&

[coral path]

not what I was referring to

still cant find it

[robust tendon]

john burgundy

[quartz flume]

Yeah so beautiful

yep im searching messages on this server mentioning polish things

Wawel is very beautifull i highly recommend it for rennesiance period lovers

[terse bronze]

Renee Sience

[coral path]

breastplate

[robust tendon]

love those pointy couters

[restive geyser]

is that Jacksepticeye?????????

[bright token]

Whats the thing I circle?

I thought its croissant of plate but that thing would have cover his arm pit

[thorny otter]

Gorget

[vocal vale]

with a bevor?

[thorny otter]

why not

[vocal vale]

never seen

[royal wave]

Are there any images of the front of this armor?? Sorry for the ping

[prisma raven]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVLJBWkDOqQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

der_kriegsknecht_zu_landshut

Bereit um die Hussiten zu bekämpfen 😜⚔️
.
#1430 #kastenbrust #15thcentury #livinghistory #latemedieval

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[coral path]

making this guy in hs

Also this cuirass (based off of Ralph Fitzherbert iirc)

[true zodiac]

why faulds if it's already fully covered?

[coral path]

English armour stuff (possibly for fashion)

ofc it adds more protection over faulds for functional purposes

1483

[true zodiac]

Ah i see, was this common(or at least used) in other parts of the world?

[coral path]

Western Europe

(repro)

[fleet junco]

happy england man

[vocal vale]

i've only ever seen it in england

[fleet junco]

france maybe

[coral path]

I remember something similar in flanders, actually (ofc iirc)

but yeah def more "common" in england

actually nvm it was something else

[fleet junco]

they should add dunk and egg

[coral path]

more

[fleet junco]

flem

[coral path]

did he just say that his last name is burger?

[vocal vale]

Excusez -moi, est -ce qu 'il vient dire que son nom de famille est…. BURGER?!

[terse bronze]

Would be Bourgeois in french

When I was in high school the principal name was bourgeois.. let that sink it

[prime cave]

Mf was in college with the queen of England

[bright token]

French armour?

[cold yew]

Medieval food?

Milk, Bread, Sawdust Cheese

[dim mauve]

Just got invited to do a small reenactment event, but it's the type of reenactment event where all the kit has to be next to 100% accurate and you're supposed to stay authentic even during the night.

[terse bronze]

banger

[dim mauve]

...
I've got a friend, who's in his 70s, and knows basically everyone when it comes to armour research and has made bits of armour for tobias capwell and others.
Hes invited me to be his squire, and he's lending me his suit of armour. 😳

[terse bronze]

BAAAANGEERRR

living the dream

[dim mauve]

Yeah man.

I do have a mega awesome blackened ciurass but unfortunately I dont yet have the rest of a suit to go with it

I need to repair his leg harness a bit though because since I'm the only guy he knows who really fits them I've been borrowing them already for ages.

[turbid shadow]

Is this the armor of chris franklin?

[dim mauve]

Did you reverse search it or do you know him 😵‍💫

[turbid shadow]

I’ve talked with him on FB before

Usually under my posts asking stuff

[dim mauve]

Goddamn he does know everyone

He saw the blackened gothic courass I got and described it as "rather gorgeous" which as far as Im concerned is basically the highest seal of approval 😂

[turbid shadow]

that shits still pretty damn good all around

[dim mauve]

You wouldn't believe how much armour he has ngl

And he knows, EVERYTHING

[turbid shadow]

making me feel like he has an entire damn garniture

[dim mauve]

He basically has rooms full of armour bits, and I mean there were bits of armour he couldn't find in amongst the huge amounts he has lmao

The guy is like actually my hero

[turbid shadow]

so your telling me he basically has multiple harnesses in a way

that's pretty damn cool

probably can afford to lend his stuff away

[dim mauve]

Well that's his main suit I believe, but unfortunately he's too old now to use the armour himself really, since me and him basically have the same unusual build he lends me bits from time to time

[turbid shadow]

damn..

[dim mauve]

Aye he just does firearms now because he's like 72

I mean his wife handcrafts custom arming doulets among many other things so you can imagine how into history they are 😵‍💫

[turbid shadow]

reminds me of the couple that went on the metropolitan museum to show their sickass Milanese harness

actually.. the met

https://youtu.be/2HwRqJwXXcQ

[dim mauve]

BTW, I've posted this multiple times before, but I can't help myself, this is my ciurass. It's partly custom made for me partly not, the rest of the suit will be made by me.

[turbid shadow]

you intend to base the later harness off the statue?

[dim mauve]

St florian

[turbid shadow]

right on the money

[dim mauve]

Yep

[turbid shadow]

its looking pretty nice

[dim mauve]

It's not exact to the statue, especially since the faulds have four segments, since the guy made custom faulds for me to make up for my height

[turbid shadow]

close enough

[dim mauve]

When you're 6'5 everything has to be altered ngl

Or straight up made from scratch which is why I've been making hose from scratch

[turbid shadow]

its a good thing that there's a lot of stuff regarding making garments out there really

[dim mauve]

I've been using the company of St George website

This was my main suit for a while, although those metal legs are Chris Franklin's, they're the same as the ones in the other picture.

Much more franken armour overall

[lethal adder]

wenti spotted.

[lethal adder]

frickin sweet (niche family guy reference for those who know)

[latent drift]

at what age did soldiers usually retire

[fleet junco]

30

i think

[latent drift]

that is quite young

[fleet junco]

thats your mothers/fathers brother's status

[harsh sorrel]

73779 results from searching willie in the discord

[fleet junco]

i think soldiers usually retired at 13

[coral path]

https://royalarmouries.org/collection/object/rac-object-478

"Spanish style" sallet. (Either French or Spanish)

[unkempt rampart]

Mean damage to the side

What kind of weapon does that?

[coral path]

it was claimed as damage from the museum but it could also be just deterioration

that would be crazy if it was weapon damage

[unkempt rampart]

It’s on a straight line and there’s little damage elsewhere

[coral path]

I dont know of anything that would do something this nuts but a heavy sharp one

[thorny otter]

My fav armorer made another banger last year - cuirass and croissants for Anton Stark by Elthien, based on portuguese sources

[robust tendon]

gussets !!

[vocal vale]

love anton's kit

[prisma raven]

PEAK!

[terse bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-its-so-peak-gohan-crying-gohan-its-so-peak-peak-gif-11211568239007237362

[robust tendon]

i love gussets

[fleet junco]

i see him

[coral path]

dope as fuck bro

[coral path]

[coral path]

these photos weren't loading for me so here they are

I like this one too

[slate mulch]

the red leather is so pretty

[cloud siren]

whats the specific word for this kind of bascinet helmet ?

[fierce cargo]

isn't it like houndskull?

might be wrong, but its similar

[fleet junco]

bascinet

churburg 16

🤷

[fierce cargo]

found it

[cloud siren]

i mean the eye slits , is there a name or style ?

[fierce cargo]

houndskull pig-faced bascinet

[cloud siren]

oh yeah it is churburg style

[fierce cargo]

pretty sure thats just called grill

[cloud siren]

oh ok thanks a bunch

i was wondering if there was a name to it

[fleet junco]

sights

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150518656866984046/1265158475432853584/OilingUp.gif

[fallen schooner]

This particular bascinet is based on Wien A12 and A24 (Wien referring to the Wien Karlsplatz museum in Vienna)

[fleet junco]

it kinda looks franken

[fallen schooner]

Oh and also this one that got excavated in Ukraine

[fallen schooner]

I'm pretty sure a24 is homogeneous since it belonged to a former Duke of Tirol but that is something to consider

[coral path]

these are not 1450-1470

https://discord.com/channels/1043854763189600337/1287593473217790034

[fallen schooner]

Apologies

[fleet junco]

hope we can get some painted stuff

[bright token]

Peak fluted western style by Jeffrey Wasson

[terse bronze]

It's very different

[quaint shore]

Huh, wonder how it got there

[terse bronze]

Because they also used bascinets

[loud brook]

how do i upload a pic here im clicking on the plus and its not giving me the option to upload a pic

[earnest raptor]

talk more, you don'y have image perms

here at least

[loud brook]

oh damn

[quaint shore]

I see

[loud brook]

well how is your day going then

[quaint shore]

Yeah that

Probably is the likely answer

[loud brook]

me when im not real apparently

JUST LET ME UPLOAD PICS OF RAPIERS

I WANT RAPIERS IN THE GAME

I UNDERSTAND ITS NOT FUCTIONAL FOR ARORED COMBAT BUT THEY LOOK COOL AND COULD HAVE FUN BENDY MECANICS

[earnest raptor]

not with the ram shortages

[loud brook]

sigh

[terse bronze]

Hey so basically, rapiers could absolutely be functional for armored combat, as for early war rapiers were used alongside full harnesses

However, what I imagine you're picturing when talking about rapiers, don't fit the game's timeframe

[loud brook]

i mean its 1475 so its elizibitheian era so i was just thinking rapiers for that time

[terse bronze]

1475 is not Elizabethan era tho?

[unkempt rampart]

It is NOT the Elizabethian era bro 😭

[loud brook]

they would only be found or crafted in the higher up ranks despite being best used against peasants

[terse bronze]

Is this the troll channel

[loud brook]

oh mb i typed in 1745 😭

[unkempt rampart]

That’s not the Elizabethan era either

The elizbathen era is from the mid 1500s to the start of the 1600s

When the actual queen Elizabeth was queen

It stopped when she died

[loud brook]

ok look idk what the hell i typed in but i typed something into google and it said elizabethan era so that my bad

[quaint shore]

What form of rapier would make sense are like

Swords with finger-rings around the guard

[terse bronze]

"Spada da lato" type shit

[quaint shore]

Which are more akin to early sideswords IIRC

[quaint shore]

Ya

[quaint shore]

Than rapier

[loud brook]

look either way i want my damn rapier in the game

[quaint shore]

Tho im maybe the least reliable someone might have better knowledge

[terse bronze]

1475

[unkempt rampart]

There’s your rapier

[loud brook]

i want to be able to jab and slash a little better than what i can already do

[quaint shore]

there ya go

[loud brook]

yeah id be totally cool with that

[terse bronze]

Spada da lato just making side sword in Italian tbh so

[quaint shore]

God i kind of want a side sword now

Early sidesword

Thats really swag ngl

[loud brook]

ikr

[unkempt rampart]

You can very easily make that sword that’s coming out of the sheathe in game rn

[terse bronze]

With the rings ?

[unkempt rampart]

The one with the simple cross guard

[loud brook]

well yeah but using alt and shit you still dont jab and slash like you would with a rapier

[quaint shore]

didn’t even notice the one with two rings i was focused on the one on the ground

[loud brook]

unless im using the wrong kind of sword

[terse bronze]

They all have rings

[quaint shore]

Onion

[unkempt rampart]

Oh shit how did I miss that

[quaint shore]

i got the picture somewhere else but would this harness fit ingame

[terse bronze]

Yeah

Bermejo THE GOAT

[quaint shore]

Awesome

Really swag cuirass

[unkempt rampart]

Didn’t Ramsay make a 3D model of that one recently?

[loud brook]

what should i make to fit what i want rn

[quaint shore]

Hold on

[loud brook]

dude holy aura btw

[unkempt rampart]

Sword with small handle and long blade

[terse bronze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164082942109290676/1472678576770777259/michael_cuirass.gif

He only made the cuirass iicr

[quaint shore]

Same thinf

[loud brook]

wait could we get that in different colors and shit?

[quaint shore]

God if i won the lottery im not telling anyone but there WILL be signs

[unkempt rampart]

There it is

[loud brook]

literally

[unkempt rampart]

Ramsay the goat

[terse bronze]

Wdym?

[unkempt rampart]

Best bannerlord modeler of all time

[quaint shore]

big fan of how the plackart just looks like a fancy jewelry necklace

[loud brook]

like if that came to the game could we get armour with different color trims and shit cus that would be swaggy as hell

[quaint shore]

Or a crown even

In a weird way

[loud brook]

YES THAT WOULD BE SO COOL

[terse bronze]

Type shit you see in franco-burgundian art tbh, try to look up the caesar tapestry

[quaint shore]

could you send pictures for the whole class

[terse bronze]

In it, caesar has stones embeded in the armor

[terse bronze]

I'm not on my pc so I can't rn

[quaint shore]

ab

Ah

[terse bronze]

Yeah true

[quaint shore]

i have stuff i want to post but i feel like most of them have already been posted + i might get fried for it

[loud brook]

caesar knew absolute swag ball dude

[loud brook]

dude do it

so what if its alr been posted

[robust tendon]

this one is 1460-70 iirc

[quaint shore]

99% sure these are already posted ones

ingame im rocking a barbute with my milanese set its Really Swag

[terse bronze]

https://www.bhm.ch/en/collections/caesar-tapestries

[quaint shore]

Fuck yeah

What was the tapestry that had brigandine tassets

[terse bronze]

Pastrana ?

[quaint shore]

I think so

[robust tendon]

cool short(er) pollaxe in there

[terse bronze]

Yur

And vouges

[loud brook]

@terse bronze you think this will work for a rapier style sword?

[robust tendon]

yeah those ones with the very big blade are neat

[terse bronze]

Guard is a bit huge

[loud brook]

fair

i was trying to balence it towards the base of the blade so i made it a bit big

cus i want a good long one handed blade that i dont have to fight the wrist flop to use

thats basically all i want man

i want to be able to 🤺 "have at you" type shi

wait it actually kinda works

[tight umbra]

Anyone have references from around this period (15th century) or a bit earlier of serbian plate armor? I know its mostly italian but i need the references

[quaint shore]

Holy guard

[fallen cape]

at this point you might aswell use the guard as a makeshift blunt weapon

[blazing quail]

Where is this from

[quaint shore]

^^^

[blazing quail]

I meant the armor model

Is this just someone that created this or is it something from the game ?

[blazing quail]

Looks really good

[prisma raven]

1460, Flanders, Utrecht, Bibliothèque royale de Belgique KBR Ms II 7619

[coral path]

awesome

[vivid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-whoa-lord-of-the-rings-gif-6821738216332904300

[tight umbra]

Wanna ask this again

[quaint shore]

oh sorry didn’t see this

someone created it

it isnt ingame

[blazing quail]

Okay

[quaint shore]

Ya

[coral path]

new ( @bright token )

[coral path]

made of 4130 hardened steel.

[minor merlin]

shiny ass helmet

[coral path]

mirror polish that mf

[tight umbra]

does this armor fit into the game? its from around the same time period

[coral path]

No

[tight umbra]

awh

looks cool though

[coral path]

I believe it is a modern reproduction. (educational guess)

[tight umbra]

the picture i took from wikipedia says its from a military museum but nothing further

[coral path]

I would recommend staying away from wikipedia

[tight umbra]

why?

[coral path]

generally it spreads misinfo or just very unefficient with the sources they got directly

[tight umbra]

so where should i look for the sources?

[coral path]

and theres a lot more than that but I'd start here

[tight umbra]

i see thanks

[prisma raven]

For Serbian and Balkan stuff you should definitely check Đorđe Aranđelović's art

[prisma raven]

nice plume holder

[coral path]

I thought I had seen more photos of it posted here but idk

[tight umbra]

what period is his art from? does he do any set period (ex. 14th century) or just random ones? i'm looking more specifically 15th and 14th century armor pieces so just wanna make sure

[prisma raven]

It's mid to late 15th C. He also has art from the late 14th century

[tight umbra]

oh its exactly what i need, thanks

[coral path]

Second half XVth century.

[lone topaz]

It's from a museum in Belgrade Serbia

The armor is dubious but there's some cool stuff there

It's in the military museum in Kalemegdan castle

[coral path]

why are there no references being posted this is bs

[fleet junco]

we posted all we can

we gotta wait for toby to find new stuff

[cloud siren]

is this a flemish sallet archer helmet ?

[fleet junco]

i think thats burgandy

[cloud siren]

flemish has a smaller snout but idk if the picture i was replying to had the same feature

[vocal vale]

franco-burgundian

[vocal vale]

not universal for flemish sallets mind you

[cloud siren]

so whats the diff between burgundian and flemish style sallets ?

[terse bronze]

Virtually none tbf

[worldly cradle]

Aren't tassets uncommon for gothic style, is it more of an alla tedesca style? The cuirass on the second pic, that is.

[gray yoke]

these medieval guys used to be snatched 💝

[vocal vale]

you need not delineate every helmet into certain countries tbh

most things used in france and burgundy and flanders are semi-interchangeable to a degree

[coral path]

Rerebraces by themselves

[coral path]

[coral path]

"How the bald lady sent a letter to the Temple of Apollo so that she might receive an answer about her daughter Polyxena and how she came to the temple, where the priest ordained that she should marry her son, and she married him to the son of Duke Nestor of Pylos. After the death of Troilus, menacingly, with mourning and lamentation, the Trojan duke, the most noble, took his wife and his children and all the people of the city, and they all say that they have lost Hector."

damn the more I look at this manuscript the more fucked up it is

[coral path]

'

[quaint shore]

Milanese?

[plucky turtle]

when the boys jokingly light a candle on your head but it legit just stays there

[coral path]

well yeah

[quaint shore]

ok

just wanted to maek sure Heh,,

[coral path]

after you see enough of the extant pieces you recognize what the armour was based off of

[nimble mason]

was there a general area fringed hoods were used more commonly

cuz i feel like most of the thinghs i see are german

[coral path]

A lot of polish sources show them and in germany/bohemia i'd say

[nimble mason]

interesting

i feel like i dont see alot of sources on them in general

[coral path]

well I guess Ill have to make a post about them

(with sources)

[nimble mason]

that would be lovely

[coral path]

give me a few

[coral path]

the polish source is more just a "hood", not really "fringed" or of cloth bevors

[coral path]

https://discord.com/channels/1043854763189600337/1479287498017345649

did hoods of all sorts

more can be posted ofc

[nimble mason]

thank u bor.

[coral path]

Augusto Boer Bront (Magister Armorum) jousting helm based on German sources from circa 1460-1480 (wip)

new post from this guy is always great

[fleet junco]

lets just make a time machine and get the references ourselves

[lone osprey]

Wow is he making that?

[terse bronze]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2238420386383150/permalink/5332829450275546/

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zoy5ZaXZ12cl-zstwItl_R2ih9BJP2JQ/view?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExdkdYblNaODZqUE52Y1JlY3NydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR75txs3KrCFagEsjidg-DJx9Xqpgm9EHohjuhLlpwNE6XYxpFa7UYE4lMClgA_aem_lRb_dmCw1Iu_drryHI0Zrg&pli=1

[tight umbra]

Thanks

[coral path]

well this is peak af

[restive geyser]

Holy shi, they have a temple of me?!

[terse bronze]

erotic pollaxe picture

[bright token]

I know this is probably outdated for the game’s time period but I really wonder why later form of armets didn’t have that “teeth”. Maybe I haven’t search enough.

Modern reproduction btw I believe

[ancient pivot]

I imagine because they realise just using breaths is a lot easier and more efficient

[bright token]

I see

[unkempt rampart]

Slightly reference related

Second coming of fat Tony?

[terse bronze]

same mf arguing that adding a hounskull would make sense because imagine if a peasant looted it and gave it to his grandson it just makes sense!!!

[quaint shore]

Half sword should add houndskulls but they are falling apart as you play and on any impact it just shatters like paper

[unkempt rampart]

There’s another hounskull thread on the Reddit

Gem

[terse bronze]

yeah saw it

it's crazy

[unkempt rampart]

Do they just not get it

Do they not understand the game

[vale bronze]

wait so is it meant to be realistic or no

[coral path]

dumbass

[unkempt rampart]

Yes

Half Sword is meant to be a very realistic and very historically accurate game

[lethal adder]

in an ideal society this man would be flayed head to foot by a tall dude in a black hood

[unkempt rampart]

That is the point of the game

[lethal adder]

or perhaps beheaded with a big scary axe

[tight umbra]

sadly we have no hounskull despite it being a beautiful helmet

[light nova]

I think the better argument for houndskulls would be "idc they look cool to me" than the stupid ass peasant argument

[tight umbra]

sad that the game takes place like a few decades after they stopped using hounskulls?

[terse bronze]

a bit more thana few decades but yeah

[tight umbra]

didnt they stop using it around the early 1400's? i'd say thats a few decades

[terse bronze]

I mean it depends on what you call "few"

game sets in 1475

[tight umbra]

ohh thats a bit more than i expected it to be

yeah i see now

[quaint shore]

y'know, i'd much rather the "old helmets" theye are gonna add be like, earlier sallets/transitional

[tight umbra]

i just want them to add a saber lmao but its unlikely

[cloud siren]

were there sabers in 1475 ?

[uncut herald]

probably horrible for vision

[weak halo]

Definitely, but I don't think there were some in Western Europe

[lone osprey]

interestingly in a 1436 austrian inventory lists 2 'haydnische messer' that probably refer to something akin if not essentially sabres - heidenisch [literally just heathen] in a cultural context usually refers to arabic/oriental

[weak halo]

These could be mistaken for messers yeah 🤔

[lone topaz]

that second one literally says saber

"Saber, Mongolian or Hungarian, XIII or older-"

[weak halo]

Yeah, they're all sabers

[lone topaz]

oh im

dyslexic as fuck

[weak halo]

I said that they do kinda look like messers

[lone topaz]

you said messers 😭

[weak halo]

Hahaha no worries

These are all Hungarian though if I'm correct

Were Hungarians considered heathens?

[lone topaz]

apparently?

since whoever curated that sword and wrote that text specifically calls it Hungarian

i realize i read the text for 30 not 31, which is the sword in the picture

i wonder where that is cause thats all in Serbian or maybe a similar enough language

[lone osprey]

sometimes the term could be applied to them yes 👍

they have tendency in later decades inventories to specify if something is e.g. hungarian specifically though

[fleet junco]

can you guys add owls

[vocal vale]

there's only one armet with teeth

it doesnt seem to be a trend

[vocal vale]

this is really cool

[bright token]

Ngl that make it even cooler and unique

[vocal vale]

the harness has edgy toothy decor in more places too

[bright token]

Amazing

[terse bronze]

This is the description for item #30

The sword picture is item #31

[lone topaz]

i realized that after the fact 💔

[tight umbra]

Is this armor accurate? Its some sort of italian armor, also the knight guy is wearing a sallet i just didnt know how to draw that (ignore the very vibrant colors my stuff sucks for coloring)

[weak halo]

The proportions don't look exaggerated enough

[tight umbra]

Yeah ik they’re off a bit im still learning but i wonder if i did the armor good

[spark latch]

https://medal.tv/fr/games/half-sword/clips/mgoXVAedoy5xzVd7R?invite=cr-MSx2QmQsMjY3Mjg3NzA2&v=6

[tight umbra]

i dont think this is a reference

[unkempt rampart]

Wrong channel

[coral path]

Not very well fitted

this is gonna be nuts when finished

[earnest mango]

who's the artist?

[thorny otter]

Andreas Paul Muscat

[earnest mango]

much appreciated

[spark latch]

hey! by the way, where do i see the mods ?

the workshops

[tight umbra]

Can we somehow get a saber in the game officially or is it just impossible

[tight umbra]

Nexusmods

[spark latch]

in google chrome ?

[tight umbra]

Yup

Refer to general catfish next time this channel is for armor references for the game i think

[spark latch]

can u help me install a mod if it doesnt disturb u

[cloud siren]

Visored Bascinet from Italy ca. 1425-50 (source: https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/22773)

[coral path]

https://discord.com/channels/1043854763189600337/1287593473217790034

[coral path]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/T7ZoNuEY6ic

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_pdcdmJCg3c

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_tC_VJIMZAc

what a wasp waist holy

[coral path]

Based off of Ca. 1465 Hans von Ingelheim.

[tight umbra]

What are these pauldrons omg

[lone topaz]

winged pauldrons

[vocal vale]

been trying to find this for a while thanks

[vocal vale]

typical italian pauldrons

[coral path]

I was too and decided to post it here and subscribe to her channel lmao

[coral path]

you can really call them whatever since they dont actually have a historical name iirc

[lone topaz]

ofc but just saying 'pauldron' is a bit vague for nowadays

[coral path]

wdym

[lone topaz]

if i ask you to show me a pauldron that could mean almost anything

if i ask you to show me a winged pauldron

you know exactly what i mean

[coral path]

also depends on what you mean by "winged pauldron" ofc

and what you consider to be a pauldron

[lone topaz]

i guess

but that same thing applies to just calling everything a pauldron

it doesnt need to be a historical name to just refer to it as that

[coral path]

I completely agree

[coral path]

I've refered to them as wings in the past or what dave said

(considering that they overlap eachother)

[coral path]

I wonder if krystof samal knows the source for the inspiration of this

[tidal ermine]

Scottish claymore

[coral path]

that ones not even based off of an extant one before 1600

[tidal ermine]

I’m not an expert sorry

[coral path]

If anything, these may Possibly fit. I believe they line up with Irish and Scottish effigies from the mid/early 16th century

similar to this one (Ca.1540s)

[tidal ermine]

Also a Gjermundbu would be cool

Idk if it would fit in

[coral path]

I think your talking more about the specific Scandinavian helmet from the 900s

Like this?

[tidal ermine]

Yeah

[coral path]

It unfortunately is way out of period

[tidal ermine]

Where can I find historically accurate photos?

[coral path]

I'd start here

[tidal ermine]

Alright thanks

Hopefully someone could add a Gjermundbu as a mod

[coral path]

this is from frank... lmao

we shall see in the future

[terse bronze]

2022 / 2023

Ouch!

[coral path]

im traumatized now

damn its not even 2025 anymore

[vocal vale]

“developed italian pauldron”

[lone topaz]

if you really want you can call it that instead of the common name for it

[vocal vale]

literally every pauldron has wings lol that’s what makes a pauldron a pauldron

“angel wing” is a colloquial term for these italian ones but truthfully you can just say italian pauldron

[coral path]

Those pauldrons would look awesome with a fishtail placard

or like this

[terse bronze]

2013 barely started

[tight umbra]

Almost like we had a new years celebration

[lone osprey]

looks like italian couter reinforce + polder mitton - perhaps partially inspired by these drawings?
in Rome as per Ghost's messages
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[lone osprey]

there are also those in the KHM
the first one (part of S. II) is called italian (not originally belonging to the rest of the netherlandish armour) in bruno and gamber's catalogue of the KHM

[bright token]

Is it possible that a visored version of this open faced franco burgundian sallet might look like the sallet I drew at the bottom right? Sorry if this isnt the right place to ask

[thorny otter]

Well, there is the famous neapolitan armor with heavily decorated poldermiton at least, but it would be probably better to ask either Dario or Alberto directly for the resources used.

[lone osprey]

could you share this neopolitan armour?

[thorny otter]

Two more in the style, sadly without surviving arms defences.

Possibly used for the "neapolitan" style of joust - giostra al tavoliere, which in essence is that one of the guys is sitting in the place while the other attacks him and then they switch roles.

[lone osprey]

oh so it may be 'neopolitan' on account of the style of joust it may have been used for? (or its owner as the Sanseverino's were neopolitan?) as I believe the armour itself is Missaglia, along with the two others you posted in venice, which had me confused

do you have a source where they say that?

I ask because all I've read about it is that its owner, Gaspare Sanseverino, was sent by Ludovico Sforza to Innsbruck to joust "alla italiana" and then only managed to really joust with Maximilian's armourer maybe among others in a conventional way according to the reports before leaving that cuirass there

[thorny otter]

I base it of discussion with Augusto who is my source for italian stuff - i might check on later

[thorny otter]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CHWvux7sY/

Tldr: it's a bit of a speculation, the suits match description of the style used for the joust, and that Gaspare himself was from Naples.

[lone osprey]

huh that is very fascinating - a very cool lead, thanks for sharing

[vivid solar]

Holy mirror

Looks like a painting ngl

[coral path]

Thanks

this is awesome

[coral path]

more than likely I'd say

Elthien Armory just posted with Anton Stark (shamelessly stolen from Camacurt)

[coral path]

https://discord.com/channels/1043854763189600337/1480316007884128346

[coral path]

pauldrons

someone tell ivan

[tight umbra]

this blue armor looks cool

[coral path]

pretty sure its just the sky reflecting off of it

if anything

[tight umbra]

idk the armor seems too blue

for it just to be a reflection

[coral path]

I've never seen blued armour that light before

[solid mist]

i mean i never seen a dragon like the one depicted in the image. the blueing is probably just exaggerated for aesthetics but it'd still look really cool if it was adapted to something more realistic

[coral path]

blued armour looks like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiTaTVKF3Ug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APNUh5GTKA'

[neat sail]

this looked uncomfortably close to poo

[coral path]

or like this

[vocal vale]

polder mitton?

[tight umbra]

i love blued armor so much

[vocal vale]

i have never heard that term before

i didn’t think those had a name

[coral path]

yeah thats what this is referred to as

and ofc the couter is already in game

[coral path]

im confused

the blueing is probably just exaggerated for aesthetics?

[solid mist]

it's a painting

it's very clearly not meant to be very realistic

the artist probably just exaggerated the look of the blueing because it looked nice

[coral path]

this isnt even exaggerated for blued armour

[coral path]

thats not true

the armour is also all'antica and is supposed to illustrate in manner of the ancients

what makes you think that its not meant to be very realistic?

[robust tendon]

eh, its more so period fantasy rather than all'antica

imo

[coral path]

yeah

[robust tendon]

also the cuirass doesn't look too fantastical, just the helmet really

[coral path]

the helmet is what made me conclude it to be allantica, not the cuirass.

its similar to these guys

in which their leg harnesses aren't too off either

[fleet junco]

whyd she get stabbed

[tight umbra]

Im half awake and i thought this was a helmet visor

[coral path]

lmfao

[coral path]

Georges Jolliot does it yet again

kevlar should go visit fr

[pale karma]

I didn't know willie could get all geared up like that

[coral path]

Sir William Ryther, c.1475 by Graham Turner

[coral path]

wdym its pauldrons inspired on the "Sanseverino armor"

repro of SNZ LM-16807

[lone osprey]

beauties

[tight umbra]

How effective were these pauldrons?

[tight umbra]

I like the couters he has on, and the vambrace

[vocal vale]

very

[tight umbra]

That has to be restricting movement no way that wouldnt be a problem

[gaunt radish]

They do slide over each other. You'd be surprised how much mobility those armors would give you

[candid rapids]

plate armor gives you wings

[robust tendon]

iirc they do to an extent but u can still do everything you need to do

[tight umbra]

i know how flexible armor is and how much mobility they have but like they look really huge and it seems like a problem

[gaunt radish]

the size could be very beneficial here though. through a) flex in the sheets and b) bigger movement radii that might just give more wiggle room

note: this is just me theorizing. I am no expert, but looked at it and made some (in my head) logical conclusions

so take it with a grain of salt

[tight umbra]

oh wow

[coral path]

modern repro

they just overlap when this happens

[tight umbra]

beautiful

will we get this in half sword lol

[coral path]

I hope so

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510880287501189120/1446839864153739284/microwavecinishopium.gif

[tight umbra]

I wish we got more cuirasses like the barons cause it looks pretty nice

Like golden cuirass, also the ability to forge our own armor would be neat but i can only hope

And also what are things on the barons cuirass where the arms go it has some unique details that no other armor has

[coral path]

The textile covered breastplate?

the barons cuirass where the arms go?

[next orchid]

they did restrict movement lmao

Pietro Monte LITERALLY says they restrict movement

that they constantly touch and interfere

[next orchid]

all armor restricts movement

its very use essentially proves its effectiveness

and yes, it was a problem

[next orchid]

yes, after you self-limit what you "need" to do

"The pauldrons that cover the shoulders and shoulderblades should extend over the back of the cuirass toward the spine. But they should not be as they are commonly worn, covering the entire shoulderblade, so that one laps over the other, and they constantly touch and interfere with each other, adding weight without benefit."

[lone osprey]

truth nuke

[next orchid]

on the other hand, having the additional length means when you raise ur arm, you wont expose the back to a sword thrust

[coral path]

dictionary: "adequate to accomplish a purpose; producing the intended or expected result."

[tacit plaza]

Yall what thickness would quality (probably stainless) steel or titanium need to be to be puncture proof against heavy stabs?

[cold yew]

We need this Longsword Blade Type

Look at the blade

we need that blade

There's many types of blade

we need Type XVIII blades

its widely used in 1400s

yet somehow its not in the game

[fleet junco]

i think we do have

[cold yew]

What you say is type XVIII in the game isnt type XVIII

[fleet junco]

i think we no have

[cold yew]

Look

[cold yew]

No!

we need Blade Type XVIII

we only got XVa

not XVIII

[fleet junco]

i think we do have

[cold yew]

nein!

no

[fleet junco]

@sly trench do we have?

[cold yew]

Its XVa not XVIII

Look at the blade

just look

it has different shape

XV is for thrust

XVIII is for cut and Thrust

[coral path]

[cold yew]

zo yeah we no have

[fleet junco]

its a very important question

[coral path]

so you have chosen death... 💔

[fleet junco]

i feel like frank is okay with it

[cold yew]

don't Talk in here

[fleet junco]

oops

[cold yew]

We need Type XVIII

We only got type XV and XVa

not all XVIII types

[vocal vale]

@cold yew XVIII doesn’t fit the period as closely as XV and XVa

XVIII is mid 14th to early 15th

only the later subtypes fit

[fleet junco]

will frank say anything

[vocal vale]

probably not

[coral path]

maybe if you ask nicely

[fleet junco]

i did ask nicely

[coral path]

[cold yew]

no its not

The Oakeshott Type XVIII longsword (and its variants XVIIIa-c) was prevalent during the 15th century, specifically thriving between roughly 1400 and 1500. It was designed for the late medieval, transitional period, optimized for both cutting and thrusting against improved plate armor. These swords represent the apex of 15th-century versatile, tapered, diamond-section blades.
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Primary Period: 15th Century (c. 1400s–1500s).
Context: Used heavily in the late Middle Ages and early Renaissance.
Key Characteristics: Features a broad base for cutting, tapering rapidly to an awl-shaped point for penetrating armor gaps (e.g., maille or plate joints).
Subtype Usage: Type XVIIIa was popular in the 15th century as a balanced tool, while XVIIIb often featured long grips for two-handed use in the mid-15th century.

Its since 1400s-1500

@vocal vale

https://swordis.com/blog/oakeshott-type-xviii/?srsltid=AfmBOoq7baNeeQHPxEwps6XpQBnIqMnW-wRV2pqN7icEAQsxvQb0cpGd

Read this

[vocal vale]

which robot did you ask for this explanation

[cold yew]

read that

[cold yew]

google

its all over europe

what you mean its its since mid 14th century to 15th century

it start in 15th century man

not end in 15th century

[vocal vale]

i typically look toward this https://www.albion-swords.com/articles/oakeshott-typology.htm

[cold yew]

it end in 16th

[vocal vale]

im not stupid, we're using different commentaries

i know how centuries work

[cold yew]

looks like we have conflicting source

[cold yew]

but this have more information

please read it

i will read yours

Medieval History be like: Conflicting source

You read this @vocal vale
https://swordis.com/blog/oakeshott-type-xviii/?srsltid=AfmBOoq7baNeeQHPxEwps6XpQBnIqMnW-wRV2pqN7icEAQsxvQb0cpGd

and i will read https://www.albion-swords.com/articles/oakeshott-typology.htm

we share info 👍

It still Exist, Just look, At the Last one XVIII isn't just one type

it exists on game time period

The Type XVIIIb, XVIIIc, XVIIId, XVIIIe

Exist on the game Periods

that means Its on the Game's Era

[fleet junco]

tuck

[winter saddle]

might be a stupid question but were secrets ever worn under a chaperone at one point?

[silver heart]

specifically odd request but, does anyone have any artistic representations of those large flower shaped pauldron reinforcements?

[vocal vale]

what do you mean by "secrets"? skullcaps?

[winter saddle]

yeah

[vocal vale]

i dont believe there's any evidence for it

[vocal vale]

could you doodle one

[silver heart]

@vocal vale i could’ve sworn you sent something of the sort in here once, unless im tweaking…

unless i’m thinking of couters? it’s been a minute since i saw the image.

oh yeah nah i’m tweaking you didn’t send it.

[tight umbra]

Yup

We need more of it