#references♥_1450-1470

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Frank von Kronberg der Ältere, c. 1461

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“Epitaph des Johann VII von Kronberg (1488) und Katharina von Reifenberg (1479)”

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“Effigy of count Eberhard V von Kirchberg and his wife Kunigunde von Wertheim (1475~)”

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Cooking

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Happens quite a bit, there's a famous depiction of Azincourt in a later 15thc MS that shoes archers wearing great bascinets and full plate, even gauntlets

But what "freaky" said is true, just wanted to add on that

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defense and offense in one piece of equipment, what a baller

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The armet will be interesting to see ingame, because I think we will be able to attach a wrapper to it, instead of having it be apart of the same helmet

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so It'll make for some cool combos, whom we shall see later down the future

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modular helms and armor pieces would be dope

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Like wearing plackart no BP or whatever else

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@robust tendon Guess what

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what

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I feel like i know the answer

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@turbid shadow do you recognize what manuscript this is from? it looks very interesting

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St Mary, Dennington, Suffolk: detail of the effigies of Lord and Lady Bardolph, set on 1440, From England obviously

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thanks brotherman

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Good MS, Ivan should check it out some more

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Yoooo I've never seen the first one, where is it from? Looks Catalan/Aragonese/Valencian based on the coat of arms

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# prisma raven Yoooo I've never seen the first one, where is it from? Looks Catalan/Aragonese/V...

This book of hours was produced ca. 1510-1520 for a member of the Catalonian Almugavar (or Almogàver) family, whose coat of arms appears throughout the manuscript in the borders of the lavish full-page miniatures. There are twenty-six full-page polychrome miniatures (three are missing), of which six were removed from the original quire structure...

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replying to this so I can go back and save all the photos on my phone

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Manuscript: ULB Darmstadt Hs 1 Historienbibel
Dating: 1430
Location : Hagenau, Germany

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Manuscript Bib. Mazarine MS.1595 Faits et dits mémorables
Dating 1430
Location France

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Manuscript DKB GKS 79 2º Speculum humanae salvationis
Dating 1430
Location Germany

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Manuscript Morgan M.1040 Book of Hours
Dating 1430
Location Brittany, France
Institution Morgan Library

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Manuscript Morgan M.64 Book of Hours
Dating 1430
Location France

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Manuscript UBH Cod. Pal. germ 148 Biblia Pauperum
Dating 1430-1450
Location Eichstätt, Germany

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Manuscript Morgan M.893 Beauchamp or Warwick hours and psalter
Dating 1430-1445
Location London, England

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Manuscript Walters W.165 Book of Hours
Dating 1440-1460
Location Delft, Netherlands

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Manuscript Walters W.168 Book of Hours
Dating 1430-1435
Location Utrecht, Netherlands

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Manuscript Morgan M.944 Book of Prayers
Dating 1430
Location Milan, Italy

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Manuscript Morgan M.77 Evangeliary
Dating 1430-1440
Location Regensburg, German

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who would win

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Really nice kits

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Nice armor though.

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graah

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trying to download the spiezer kronik but all i can do is look at it through the clunky web viewer

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*** Brabantsche Yeesten (ca. 1440-1450) ***
1440-1450, Brabant, Brussels KBR ms. IV 684

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Ah, Really love this MS

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[1414 Germany (Elsass) BSB Cgm 1111 - Schachzabelbuch]
I know this clearly doesn't fit the game's time period but I'd thought I'd share it, the Visors of the bascinets look so cool

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1450-1500 France, BNF Francais 55-58 - Jean Mansel, Fleurs des Histoire

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funny little all'antica helmet

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[1450-1475 France, BNF Français 41 - Valerius Maximus]

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*** 1450-1456 Flanders, KBR ms. 10238 - Histoire des Seigneurs de Gavre ***

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Obviously, they send the actual source of the MS's

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ca. 1450-1480 Germany, BAV Vat.lat.5961 - engineering treatise by Konrad Gruter

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1450 Germany, in Copenhagen, Arnamagnæanske Samling, AM 374 fol

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1426- ca. 1450 England, Cotton MS Tiberius A VII/1 - The pilgrimage of the life of man, by John Lydgate

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The Hardest Kastenburst Depiction [Marx Reichlich (1460–1520)]

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Crucifixion of Christ. Dated 1449, by Conrad Laib. Exhibited in the Lower Belvedere in Vienna. And a few details of the various suits of armour.

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Master of Laufen! Painted between 1455 and 1460: The Carrying of the Cross and the Crucifixion of Christ. With details of various suits of armour. Exhibited in the Lower Belvedere in Vienna.

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[effigy of Georg I. Truchsess of Waldburg, died 1467] Last reference for the day

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good ol' fencer spam

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good shit tho

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need to fill this place with references

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francais 2609 bnf, 219v

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❤️ brigandine spaulders

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scottish guard lesgo

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love me some scots

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[ca. 1450 - 'l'Histoire du Fort Roy Clovis', tapestry, Arras or Tournai, Palais du Tau, Reims, dép. Marne, France] I do recall sending one Picture of this MS but not the full thing, so here is the full thing

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ca. 1450-1460 - 'St. Florian, Book of Hours, use of Rome', Salzburg, Austria, Dr. Jörn Günther Rare Books (Stalden (Sarnen) & Basel, Switzerland), TEFAF, Maastricht, Netherlands

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ca. 1450-1460 - 'St. George and St. Servatius', Lorenzkirche, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany

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Saint Veronica and a group of Knights
1477 - 1478

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Maille looks okay but sallet looks off

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Probably for buhurt or another style or armored sport

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1430-40 depiction of st michael

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Very similar to the tonlet/skirt/fauld seen here

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1440(?) augh

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One of the most beautiful depictions of a harness i’ve ever seen

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I think this is from the Book of Hours

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Reminds me a lot of this

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Also any of you able to elaborate on the accuracy of this fellow’s harness? I really like the look of it and it looks reasonable, but not entirely sure

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Murica

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got dang that’s beautiful

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Dark and Darker added a new helmet, that's... A barbarian exclusive??? I'm ready for y'all to tear this apart lmao Skull
why tf the sallet, the helmet commonly used for men at arms, restricted to the Nordic barbarian william

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And I'd guess here "barbarian" doesn't mean "outside of rome" but rather the classic fantasy class of melee warrior / barbarian

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it's just so out of place heresbarb

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🤷‍♂️

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Norse used sallets in the 15thc anyway !

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and see, that's the kinda facts I knew I'd find here lol, cause the dark and darker server is just full of screaming toxicity while here, we can actually break a conversation down 🗿

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people were yappin back and forth bout it in the general chat saying "this doesn't belong in the game, it looks out of place!" And I'm looking like, yknow, there's a man casting fireballs from a stick, and you really got a problem with that?

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go fuck yourself !!!!!! 🖕

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Sorry I let the goofy side shine

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We get a little silly around here

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Like imagine having baseball caps and sneakers in lotr because "Well, there's magic and orks so doesn't matter"

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well I mean I think there's a line that can be drawn 😂 this visored sallet from the unreal market isn't huge deal, but if a Bard came up to me with an electric guitar and started laying it down, I think I might call it 🫡

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tho that would be pretty hardcore... wow

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the electric luth in question

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this is the references channel, not the place for it

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the references in question

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(found at Neuss, where the siege took place)

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what are these things?

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spurs

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For the boots?

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ahh thats what I thought

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I wasn't sure if it was something like that, or some sorta torture device lmfao

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lol

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them bitches look ooooold. Definitely have seen some time.

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well the siege took place in 1474

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imagine spending that much time in the dirt, in a well or whatever

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I can’t imagine, of all things.. the little thin spurs you have in your boots is the only surviving thing

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@sullen charm @robust tendon @turbid shadow

Thank you guys for quite litteraly carrying this channel entirely, I never knew i'd see so much medieval stuff and varients of helmets and harnesses. Same with just thank you guys for helping me with idenifying stuff and asking how effective stuff is!

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1480-90

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I think roughly mid 15th, not sure as couldn't find much about this.

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1470s ish depiction of st florian, featuring a nice pearl(?) crown

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1470 again

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funky clothes, yet again 1470 (1490 according to a different source)

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🦔

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What about St George and St Florian?

Late 15th Century, allegedly. 1478 specifically. I wasn't aware Bearpaw Sabatons appeared that early, but that's something to note, maybe?

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1450-1493 Flanders, Rouen BM Martainville 192 - Heures de la Vierge

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Scenes of life of St. Elisabeth, 1490-1495, at the Dordrecht museum.

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1490-1510 Flanders, Bibliothèque de Genève Ms. fr. 182 - Pelerinage de Vie HumaineGenève, Bibliothèque de Genève, Ms. fr. 182
Genève, Bibliothèque de Genève, Ms. fr. 182https://iiif.biblissima.fr/collections/manifest/68487f199511d6293735017f30b1741a1b357f58?tify={%22pages%22:[29],%22view%22:%22info%22}

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Battle fresco by Pisanello, 1433. Ducal palace, Mantua'

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[1462-1465 France, BNF Français 2695 - René I d'Anjou, Traité de la forme et devis comme on peut faire les tournois] @robust tendon They made a whole MS based on you

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1436 Flanders, Bodleian Library, MS. Douce 305 - Pelerinade de vie humaine

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Photorealistic medieval towns and castles: the Auvergne Armorial

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Monument John Cherowin
Dating 1441
Location Porchester Castle, Brading, Isle of Wight, England

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Monument Sir Thomas Blennerhassett
Dating 1531
Location St Andrew's Church, Frenze, Norfolk, England

buh this guys coat of arms is so fucking cool, too bad that this man is way off the time period

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Monument Sir Martin de Visch
Dating 1452
Location Brugge Cathedral, Brugge, West Flanders, Belgium Here's a coool man

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Monument Günther von Bünau
Dating 1431
Location Church, Droyßig, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany

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Monument Edward Delahale
Dating 1431
Location Wotton, Surrey, England
Gender Male

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Monument Thomas Chaucer , Esquire
Dating 1433
Location Church of St Peter and St Paul, Dorchester, Oxfordshire, England
Gender Male

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Monument Sir John Harpedon
Dating 1438
Location Westminster Abbey, London, London, England

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Monument Sir Bryan Stapleton
Dating 1438
Location Ingham Priory, Ingham, Norfolk, England

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Monument Unknown Neville
Dating 1484
Location St Brandon's Church, Brancepeth, Durham, England

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Monument Anna of Handschuhsheim
Dating 1477
Location City Church, Kronberg, Hesse, Germany

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Dating 1457
Location Marienstiftskirche, Lich, Hesse, Germany

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Monument Philipp of Solms
Dating 1460
Location Marienstiftskirche, Lich, Hesse, Germany

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Monument Heinrich von Ringelstein
Dating 1470
Location St Martin's Church, Ebingen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

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Manuscript ONB Cod.2774 Bibelparaphrase
Dating 1448
Location Vienna, Austria

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Manuscript BNF Italien 81 il Dittamondo
Dating 1447
Location Florence, Italy

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KBR Ms.14697 Tristan und Isolde Dating 1447-1449

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Manuscript Bodley Laud Misc. 570 Épître d'Othéa
Dating 1450
Location France

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Manuscript MMW 10 B 34 Speculum humanae salvationis
Dating 1450
Location Cologne, Germany

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Manuscript Morgan M.385 Speculum humanae salvationis
Dating 1450
Location Bruges, Belgium

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Manuscript Morgan M.255 Book of Hours
Dating 1450
Location Winchester, England

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Manuscript Tours BM MS.1850 Histoire ancienne jusqu'à César
Dating 1450
Location France

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Dating 1450
Location Bruges, Belgium

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Manuscript BL Harley 4205 Sir Thomas Holme's Book of Arms
Dating 1445-1450
Location England

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Manuscript BNF Latin 4915 Mare Historiarum
Dating 1447-1455
Location Anjou, France

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Manuscript UBF Ms.germ.qu.6 Der Renner
Dating 1446-1450
Location Swabia, Germany

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Manuscript SBB Ms. germ. fol. 1 The Trojan War
Dating 1445-1455
Location Hagenau, France

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Manuscript NYPL MA 104 Bible History
Dating 1445
Location Germany

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It's not the sabatons, it's more the armet that the dude on the left is wearing

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Looks 16th century

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not 15th

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I think the source is just incorrect, though I'm not too sure

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It's hard to tell exactly what the construction is, but it's possibly, I have doubt it's 15th Century, though this is from "The Coronation of David" from 1501, so perhaps it's some strange transitional helmet.

Really, it's the Visor that is the most puzzling part. Especially for something allegedly from 1478.

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I've actually posted this one before, and people more knowledgeable than I am have said that it looks like early 16th stuff

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since it's 1 year into the 16th century, it's not gonna have that much of a radical change from older 15th century stuff

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for example, this is the field harness of Ferdinand V, of aragon and sicily. This is dated 1490-1500.

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very nice

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yeah, it's really a nice kit

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the gold work really looks good

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“Burgundian wars soldier”

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I love how he is wearing sweatpants

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hmmm didn’t notice that

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Cuirass and scheke looks good thougj

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Manuscript UBH Cod. Pal. germ. 339 Parzival
Dating 1443-1446
Location Hagenau, Germany

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Manuscript UBH Cod. Pal. germ. 149 Historia septem sapientum; Chronicon pontificum et imperatorum
Dating 1450
Location Hagenau, Germany

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Manuscript le Mans BM MS.223 Nantes Missal
Dating 1450
Location France

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Manuscript UBH Cod.Pal.germ. 324 Virginal
Dating 1444-1448
Location Hagenau, Germany

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Manuscript UBH Cod. Pal. germ. 362 Flore und Blanscheflur
Dating 1442-1444
Location Hagenau, Germany

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the two duos

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gonna try and find da resources of these later

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this guy is me

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he is sad that he won't be in da HS

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UNLESS

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ivan snicks him in

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hopefully if extension comes it wont be viking samurai spartan warrior but 90s

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ppl suggesting those just aren't aware of the sheer amount of variety just a decade can have

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we can have these if HS team decides to make a BIG extension 1490 to possibly 1540 to maybee 1550 even though that would be LATE as fuck

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1490 to 1500/1510 would be a great expension

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still is relatively 15thc coded

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but different enough to feel like a new thing

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but at the same time I feel like we kinda wanna 1400-1425 type shit

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but I'd say maybe they do the 1490-1510 extension dlc and then they go into the meat and potatoes of that

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I mean expensions could be forward and backward i feel

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up to like 1415 ish the armor feels very 15thc anyway

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life could be a dream

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you still have armets, Gbascinets and such

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look at that lance rest my god

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if we were to make it something like 1440-1490 then I feel like we'd be missing a shit ton of stuff in 1430, one thing that comes in mind is some really cool bicoques tho I think they were still really present in the later times

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And kastenbrusts

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definitely 1430 need to stay

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those are fucking major

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really major

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coventry sallet

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might already be in the game i cant remember

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too many sallets

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italian sallet visor with divided sights

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inside of a brigandine

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cool decorated breastplate

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armor of ulrich IX von matsch

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these are all italian

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Bernat Martorell, 1434/35

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IMO : smooth german armor > fluted german armor

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i go wild for fluted cuirasses but past that it gets a little extravagant

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i like both of them very much but when you've got just the right amount of complexity in just the right areas its perfect

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some spicy all'antica

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Thousand of years ?

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He ressurrected 3 days after !

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thanks

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smooth maxi > fluted maxi

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never seen it

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i like fluted and unfluted, though less a fan of "pure" italian armour

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in general

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I see what you mean now

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gorgeous

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hopefully we get a dlc for this period of armor

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zweihanders/proper greatswords would be so nice

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that and early period, maybe william the conquerer's day

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love owlface sallets

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actually havent heard them called that, but i can see it

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they are good

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they are pretty doo doo fart if you ask me…

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mods..

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make this guy walk the plank

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put him into the rat room

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the oubliette

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make him eat british cuisine

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omppfgg

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i love early armets

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yes they are quite nice

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more of a transitional period guy, myself tho

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jupons my beloved

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hounskull bascinet my beloved

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and the pazallo ducale basc

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however you spell it, i forget

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the hounskull armet fits the same period as the palazzo ducale gb

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Was about to post this image and talk about the fourth one and how similar the pointed skull is to a bascinet

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haha yep

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love that pointed skull armet

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WAS ABOUT TO POST IT ASWELL

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we should boycotte stock image companies

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true

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i'm gonna lose it

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"THIS IS MY IMAGE OF A DEAD GUY'S PAINTING"

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smh

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"PAY ME BECAUSE I TOTALLY OWN THIS"

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rigid neck armet btw

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great bascinet time beat, but armet

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Just realised i commented on your art on twitter this morning

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1432, basillica cathedral of St. Denis, Île de france

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Bruno von Pleissen, 1436, St Marien’s church, Naumburg, Saxony-anhalt, HRE

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Antoine des Essarts, 1442, Notre-dame, Paris

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George von Leckendorf, 1444, Münster S. Marien und Jakobus, Heilsbronn, Bavaria, HRE

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Konrad von Weinsberg, 1446, Katholische Pfarrkirche Sankt Joeseph, Schöntal, Baden-Württemberg, HRE

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Btw, before anyone asks; these are all from effigies and brasses

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Jana z Garbowa, date 1454, Koło, Greater Poland Voivodship

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Richard de Wygtham, date 1455, All Saints church, Wytham, Berkshire, England.

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Aysmmetrical couters

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John Framlingham, 1465, Church of St Mary Magdelene, Debenham, Suffolk, Englanf

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we out here balling (spherically)

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Derwick von der Merwede, 1452, Meeuwen, North Brabant, Netherlands

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Sir John Newton, 1440, Church of St John the Evangelist, Yatton, Somerset, England

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KBR Ms. Bruxellensis 14689-91 Künige Der Buch, Schwabenspiegel

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hagenau, 1430-40

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ULB Darmstadt Hs 1 Historienbibel, 1430, once again Hagenau

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maybe i don’t remember

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if it has i’ll delete it

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Keep it its no problem

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I’ve posted some of the pages but not all of them i think

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lotta cool helms in this script

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1448 Innsbruck

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I love the 15th century but boy were sallet popular

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Not always and it depends on decade and location

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armet was pretty popular, you also have GB, bicoque, kettle

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Just not a lot of hounskul or pig faced bascinets which are two I like the look of

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Well you do see hounskull bicoques

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1434-35

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True

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1465-75

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Does anybody here have Eastern European armor by chance?

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i don’t have much

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pickelhaubes with hounskull visors are always pretty dope

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more lithuania

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The pointy pot hat is so ugly but so prolific

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so they had just foot soldier like equipment?

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Well the lemellar is an iconic component of the eastern panoply

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it is absolutely swagger

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if i ever get into bohurt or whatever its called, ill get a kit with that helmet

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I require C.O.A.’s

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~ { Coats of Arms }

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Send me the finest.

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Any others?

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does anyone have a small collection of armets with hounskull visors? similar to this

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im trying to figure out where they were popular and get drawing reference and all that

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found one

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WILLY spotted IN PUBLIC

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HELLO CHAT !!!!!!! HELLO !!!!!!!!!

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what are those pictures from on the right??? that golden guy looks dope

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crowned and plumed one is baller

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i love grill-sighted visors so much

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Armour based on the Swabian statue of St George by Manning Imperial

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I wonder, do they get these custom made or make it themselves

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they make it themselves

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they commission it or make it

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love the purple cloth

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we balling with da pollax

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Add

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Jk!!!!!

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big if true

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Amiens. Bibliothèques d'Amiens Métropole, Ms. 483, C. 1440-45

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thoughts?

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Classic old modern drawings, overall "ok" but actually shabby when you look at it closer

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also doesn't fit the game's timeframe

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i think so

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But was just making a precision

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(visor is supposed to be above the grills)

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youre right, i was mixed up

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What do you find shabby in the drawing btw

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the aventail, the legs, the upper arm defense, the shield
I'm less knowledgeable on weapons but the mace looks wayyy later

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I don't think "knight's belts" were worn that way, i mean the way it hangs down.

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I've only seen them straight across

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maille is also drawn really poorly, looks oddly like wool

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i stand corrected

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a bit different in design

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what a goober, bronze sabatons

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or gilded idk what it's trying to portray. bit too orange for gilding

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easy to do

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sorry but i'm WAY too lazy right now to list everything

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# civic glade in what ways specifically?

for me it's a little difficult to be specific but at a glance it is of less quality to other renditions. i can say that the rerebrace is a bit short though, and the aventail is fitted a lil odd, if compared to other, better depicted aventails. the mace is definitely late for the armour, and the shield is shaped weirdly again compared to better examples

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It’s just too big

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the aventail

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It’s meant for neck protection i don’t think it hanged so low like it does here

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on the topic of the art the lack of a spaulder is really odd

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Early by like 20 years

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speaking of graham turner, this is his harness

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great bascinet with cavalry visor

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Looks very much like a frogmouth

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mirror polish sallet

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Absolutely beautiful harness

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58v-3/ BnF, Français 22547. 1470~

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Manuscript depicting the history of Alexander

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lots of “heroic”/all’antica armor, also some other interesting stuff

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visored barbute 😱

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made by Jeffrey Wasson, decorated by Ugo Serrano

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me at the tournament

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Why the holes in the breastplate i wonder? Lightening holes for a tourney where thrusting is prohibited maybe?

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But not on anythint except the breastplate and the neck of the Gb?

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note the flat tips

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this is from the same manuscript Bossk posted

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@sullen charm

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[Sword and scabbard from the statue of St George at St Wolfgang by Michael Pacher 1471-81.] This appears to be a very nice replica

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Rothenburg Ballock dagger,North Italian (Venetian) 1450.

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Italian Arming sword and Scabbard
Based on a sword in the Met, Oakeshott XV.9

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[ W872 from the Bayerisches National Museum Munich]A replica of the sword

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Legs in the Austrian style to match the surviving components of CH S25 from Churburg castle.

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location: Germany
Date: c. 1485

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Manuscript KK5013 Gladiatoria
Dating 1430-1439
Location Germany

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Beautiful swords not sure if these type of sword blade still popular in the game's time period

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I feel like they might be italian, I just have a feeling

They are beautiful tho

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They were the most popular one handed blade that is almost always paired with a shield

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A Schiavonesca in excavated condition,
OaL: 40 in/101.6 cm
Blade Length: 31.8 in/80.7 cm
Weight: 1.8 lbs/794 g
Eastern Europe, late 15th century, housed in the royalarmouries

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what were those types of handguards called?

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i've seen them quite a bit

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Also i've a question about all'antica stuff. i'm aware it was used, but to what extent is what i am not sure about. Like would this manuscript be a good resource of what could be worn in field/etc?

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I've my suspicions about some of these being artistic liberty

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thanks

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Italian amours worn without a hauberk or a separate mail skirt.
But just the mail skirt attached to the fauld, and separate loose short sleeves. Smart choice to save weight and tire less your warhorse.
From a 1448 painting by Lo Scheggia. Exactly like Urlich IX's cuirass in Churbug.

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MORE PDFS MORE PDFS OHNOSCREAM

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and the pointy-er armet visor

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very nice

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The cool sallet that will make an appearance ingame!

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such a cool sallet!

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repro by François l'Archeveque

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Looks really fucking sick

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"francois l'archeveque armurier" on Facebook, go take a look at his stuff

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it is top notch

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but do you know what else looks sick? this

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drip

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Français 2609 f.49v)

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1471

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some real nice armor in it

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archers with lowered visors in this one

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the gilder

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me when I see a cool apple

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idk if it's this exact ms or another one from the same series but there's a page showing a bishop(or whatever his rank is) in armor with a mitre ect

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I think i've seen those before, it's like the bishop's hat with maille right?

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Yeah it's the same ms, except f.219

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beauty

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love mitre paired with armor

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Can you guys guess this coat of arms ;)?

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A video shoving how to dress in and wear armor (harness) from late 14th century. The harness is a detailed reconstruction based on the effigy of the Black Prince (1330-1376) in the Canterbury Cathedral, other relevant effigies, paintings in 14th century manuscripts and late 14th century armour displayed in The Royal Armories in Leeds. For more i...

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It's a pretty well known video tbf

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it has some interesting design

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I think it's his own

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not that he's noble but i think he made it himself from scratch

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doubt it

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but i'm saying that he ola onsrud made that coat of arms up

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he isn't affiliated to any noble family and shit

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Maybe he talks about it in this video

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this is a very majestic piece of art, but the price.... I think only kings and rich noble families can afford this

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So yeah a pretty noble fellow indeed

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I didn't have that one in storage I just knew what to search on google lol

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But I have a lot of ref pics on my pc for mordhau modding

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It's also a pretty well known harness lol but yeah

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# sullen charm doubt it

i thought they did, to some extent? james douglas's son changed the coat of arms after his father died

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About expensive harnesses, i'll never be tired of mentioning this but - there's accounts of armors fully gilded in gold with jewelry enbedded in it

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And charles the bold once paid for 1 (one) sallet the same price as for ~4 "average" complete harnesses

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i vaguely remember something about people having kind of a "base" coat of arms and then every family member having a unique little spin on it

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like, warwick kingmaker's coat of arms is super unnecessarily complex, but it's not the coa of his whole family

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additionally, considering family members could be enemies of each other, having your own personally identifiable coat of arms that is separate from say your brother's or uncles would make things much less confusing even if it was just a few extra additions

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(Richard Temple-Nugent-Brydges-Chandos-Grenville, 2nd Duke of Buckingham and Chandos)

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not medieval

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then dont post it in references nerd_glasses

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:^)

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we do a macroscopic amount of trolling

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Decorative Knight armor with a Bird shaped Helmet

Source : Prague Castle

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what do you guys think of the design ?

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Frightening or Drippy ?

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is it victorian or is it The Real Deal

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Because the details on the armor is just insane

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I don't know which century though

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all i found on it

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it's not even victorian I think it's modern

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Yeah

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Prague castle kinda sucks

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In general armors that are in castles do suck cuz they aren't a museum

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It's "based" on a real harness tho lemme find it

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Armour of the Young King Sigismund Augustus, from the Wawel Royal Castle

Source: Czyżewski and Ochęduszko

This king has some drip 🙏

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Costume Armour for Foot Combat, probably made for Albrecht, Margrave of Brandenburg, Duke of Prussia, Northern Germany (Brunswick?), c. 1526

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(made for his wedding)

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Damn

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Imagine pulling up to your wedding like that

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like tourney and stuff

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that makes more sense in context

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imagine losing to a guy on your wedding day

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it's all fun and sports...

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thats like messing up the choreography for your Cool™️ Star Wars™️ Themed Wedding™️

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Parts of a Landsknecht Garniture, Innsbruck, c. 1520. A28

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This magnificent armour is designed to simulate and thus invoke the flamboyant clothing of the German Landsknechte

Even with its complex and elaborate decoration, created by combining embossing, chasing, etching and fire-gilding, this remains a practical war armour, probably made for a nobleman in command of squadrons of professional Landsknecht infantry.

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i really like 16thc armors showing traits from clothing

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like the rolls and slashes here

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Yup

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it's also a bit protective

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too bad the game sets in 1430-80

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uh?

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Imagine if Gunpowder was never discovered, would we still use medieval armors ? And how much could we possibly improve it ?

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yknow gunpowder didn't have as much of an impact as many people think

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in term of armor i mean

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many people seems to think that gunpowder = armor disappears

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took like around 200 years lol

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And it's still because of the gunpowder, ofcourse the weapons wasn't that strong before but after 200 years it became so effective they stopped using armors and very rare to see some people use it, because it has a very low chance to deflect a bullet

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When you think about some soldiers and police guys still use plates nowadays

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it just looks way lamer . . .

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gilgamesh never died

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caveman half sword expansion when? need to killa with rocka

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need some bronze age games ngl

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3D PRINTED

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is posting Codpiece armors allowed here ?

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me on my way to 3d print Milanese armor from aeternis

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codpieces are removeable pieces

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Like, do they just put it on it or inside ?

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tie it to the maille or arming garment like any other piece

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this one just happen to be on the dick for a myriad of reasons like fashion

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I mean your dick isn't inside it so

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I mean... it's better than not wearing any protection, Right ?

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also that's for the metal 16thc ones, but there's also cloth ones

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that just look like a bulge really but they're still codpiece

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Hmm

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The armors really wouldn't look great without its own Heraldry

it's really something that improves the fashion of the armor even further

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that crest does look good

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I think the drawing is by graham turner no?

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for some reason the one you posted is blurry

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Unicorn

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Put a dragon or a lion head at least

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same

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I see

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yes

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the black things you see on the breton flag

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it's just unique, like if you see a knight with this coat of arms you immediately recognize which region he's from

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Yeah it's cool

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But be honest, Breton or the English Coat of arms Todd68

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They're drippy

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heraldry is important, if you just see knights without surcoats that display their coat of arms, nobody would know who their fighting

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that's what modern movies fail to realize sadly

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I just hate english more

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cooler

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(unbiased)

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[bossk is french I thrink]

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yeag

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honestly both the english and french and Italians have kick ass armor styles, that are fairly similar to each other

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# sullen charm yeag

You probably still have some ptsd because of the hundred years war, that's why you hate the English

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We won that war mate

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didn't the french win that

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yea

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the english took the L on the end

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English are just our best enemies, we love hitting each others in the face with comically large looney tunes hammers

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Just because everyone heard about Crécy, Poitiers and Azincourt already, please check out Castillion, Formigny and Patay thanks

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Yep

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Main reason why I hate burgundians

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good thing they took a massive L to the swiss and french later on

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check this vid out

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then those go away for the most part

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its more about economy

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armies got bigger and now they were manly consist of just people not by feudal lords who could afford this kind of armor

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and ofc armor got less effective. However France still had their cuirassiers

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# tight sand its more about economy

i think it was more about economy in the way that after the industrial revolution guns were easier and better to make than bespoke armor that protected against pike but not shot in a world where shot was the only thing you had to worry about

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Ye agree on that cuz it feels like plate or chain armor would be still effective even in 7 years war and etc

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Cuz a lot of countries like Prussia and Russia were relying on melee charge

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If i am not mistaken

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Napoleon did almost the same reform

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like this

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the idea was to rush through the enemy line infantry

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*** 1452 Germany, Cod. Donaueschingen 145 - Gesta Romanorum ***

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goblin

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stabbing the poor guy in the eyeslits

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this is tonlet armor to the extreme

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imagine if they actually made it articulated

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like most tonlets

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love that one

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shame it's so crusty tho!!!

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this guy looks epic as fuck

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh23lIBHPT0&ab_channel=IronCrownWorkshop here's this too but I think the video would've been better without the silly epic music

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Live action 15th century castle siege at Feldlarger 2023. Location Brandenburg Castle, Lauchröden. Event hosted by Arne Koets.

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the channel has some good shit

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i wish triternion devs weren't so fucking mute

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show snippets, talk to the community you morons

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that's why i always insist to john man to post snippets as soon as possible on aeternis

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the devs clearly didn't know shit about what period they wanted the game, instead they just added it random shit for the sake of it

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if the devs had some sense then we could've had maps that recreate actual battles from history

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hell that's not even a hot take, that's facts

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without roberto, or Terath, or john man, or any other person that added in proper arms and armor the server wouldn't be that popular

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fax

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the server was popular because of the new good cosmetics that were added, though to not discredit aleks he did a bunch of shit with the tints and the custom slot system

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aeternis is "the mod with custom armor" not "the mod with combat changes" or whatever

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i don't really mind that that much but my point is if it wasn't there no one would care, no one plays aeternis for the combat changes

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aeternis blows the vanilla shit so far out of the water it’s embarassing

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the only really good vanilla mordhau piece is the maximillian set

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I feel you but like

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In a proper physical fight, aggression is tempered by caution

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As nice as it is to strike true, its also true that getting stricken is a huge bummer

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ca. 1448 - ''Totenschild' of knight Wilhelm I von Wolfstein (+1448)', Regensburg?, Klosterkirche, Seligenporten, Pyrbaum, Bayern, Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Nürnberg, Bayern, Germany

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thats not a lion

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they got it all wrong

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Half sword if we had an update with arena

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mewehn when sword in half.. of when the half sowrd is real

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What a fella

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nice but doesn’t look in period for the game afaik

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not too sure though

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It looks late 14th to me

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I gave him tank and dwarf

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honestly dc’s stuff is all dope