references♥_1450-1470

[turbid shadow]

Aye since ya asked more for heroic armor refs so here ya go

[candid dawn]

Ah yeee this is hot stuff!!

[turbid shadow]

Yeah pretty neat!

[candid dawn]

Ive seen one or two of those armors before but ye they could totaly be made at some point

[turbid shadow]

Yeah these are kinda popular

Archduke Sigismund’s harness

[candid dawn]

Lets add these here too

[turbid shadow]

Not sure what century is this, but it could be to 14th to 15th maybe?

You know asymmetrical legs could be cool

[candid dawn]

Think those are early 15th century so in the ball park for this one 👌

[candid dawn]

This one

[candid dawn]

This one im not sure, ive seen it on pinteest n saw it was some depoction from a more modern period

[turbid shadow]

I think it could be 15th century, cause it’s using some of the archduke sigismunds pieces you could say

[candid dawn]

What we would love to make is a armor system that allowes the player to make their hero as they want him to be, with a combinstion of the armor parts we will make. But we will end up with similar parts id belive 🙂

[turbid shadow]

Yeah, similar to mordhau

In mordhau you can customize how fat,strong,skinny your character is and can customize the colors of the armor sets, and patterns

@candid dawn do you think these are possible to implement? And not just have the walking animation loook goofy on them?

Bth they are from the 1520

And called tonlet, supposed armor for Henry himself

[turbid ether]

surely we add the grand Horned Helmet of King Henry the VIII (made between 1511 - 1514)

[turbid shadow]

This’ll look so perfect in game

Foot armor for once again Henry in the 1520

[turbid ether]

honestly t this point they should just add King Henry VIII into the game lol

[turbid shadow]

Could you post a higher resolution screenshot for that?

[turbid shadow]

Mmm could be interesting what if you meet him as a boss at some point

[turbid ether]

Henry the VIII gilded Greenwich armour

this better?

[turbid shadow]

Much much better

Although you have to keep in mind, the devs are currently making armor/weapons in the early 15ths so yea

[turbid ether]

So Maximilian Armour would be age appropriate?

[turbid shadow]

maxi armor is from the 16th century

[turbid ether]

ohh right sorry i thought you mean 1500's mb

[turbid shadow]

But don’t worry, devs are gonna add them later down the line

Like I said they are working on adding weapons plus armor from the 15th century

And after they finish doing that they’ll go to other periods and add them

[candid dawn]

Yes! It will take time and might look like a few sets of armor parts, but the stuff we show are usually right from the rnd process, but the wish is really to fill a need where other games display few armor parts or a lot of fantacy in the art, so if anyone like me have the same feeling where games underearimate realistic armor grounded in history is where we would love do a bit different or explore more from what is already out there. Already saying grounded in history is a huge statement imo as non of us developers are historical scollars but love the setting and the estetics so its the direction we will go for, we will do that to the best of our abilities. With this said I personally would really appriciate feedback from people who have more of greater perspektive of the arms and armor to give in their toughts and siggestions, have to say already now that all feedback will be read and il do my best to adress it.

[turbid shadow]

schecke armor

[candid dawn]

Hehe now thats some tall armor. But lets keep it within the time period of the goal and scope of the game for the refrence :))) so we dont loose out on some refrences and clear up the confusion ❤️⚔️

[turbid ether]

so this would be time appropriate then?

concept was designed in 1487, which falls under the 15th century parameters

[round siren]

(was built too which makes it historically accurate)

[turbid shadow]

milanese armor

?

[hoary oyster]

I love milanese armor

[turbid shadow]

ayeee your here now

one of our very many fellow exanimates here

[turbid shadow]

@candid dawn Hey man, just saw the Wallace barbute in the art work channel And noticed something wrong with it

And also the helmet is from the 1469 -1486

[candid dawn]

Eloo mate! Not sure whats wrong with it but do let me know 😅 im not sure i used the wallace barbute as my refrence when i made those but that one is a very fine specimin👌👌👌

[zealous seal]

nothing seems wrong with it, you did a fine job. this guy is just a charlatan

[zealous seal]

how are you going to say something is wrong with the model and then post two practically identical images as substantiation to your claim?

just because they didn't model it exactly like how your google image looks doesn't make it wrong.

[turbid shadow]

Ahhh sorry then

[slender fiber]

lmao

[turbid shadow]

oh yeah thanks for reminding me to tell him the deference's between the two

[slender fiber]

?

[turbid shadow]

Its just this thing that looks odd about it, other than that its very awesome

[glossy knot]

Yeah I agree with Fencer, that does look odd

That would be a bit weird in sword fight, as if a blow came from below it could get caught on the nose thingy and do some bad stuff to the guy wearing it

[zealous seal]

it's alright, sorry i exploded

[candid dawn]

Alrite, ima revisit this one once im back after the holidays! Cheers for pointing that one out! 🙂

[crude vine]

honestly, your model looks really good

the fighting isn't 100% realistic either

imo you shouldn't worry about that helmet

don't waste your energy on some insignificant details

[turbid shadow]

I mean, I don’t think He’s gonna spend a lotta time on it, he’s just gonna adjust one little thing

[candid dawn]

Ayyy nice reffs my dude!!

Havent seen most of these before!

Good stuff 😄

[turbid shadow]

thanks, I was gonna go even further but I got bored and started playing halfsword

ITS JUST SO FUN

can't wait to have 14th century stuff in this game

[candid dawn]

Im also really exited to get back and work on it, currently the xmas period is a time consuming period 🤣

[turbid shadow]

Sigismund armor again

couldn't help my self

[turbid shadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/954397826098544650/1056993548370722966/20220814_152842.jpg?width=380&height=676

[turbid shadow]

chained variant of the hosen

[candid dawn]

Is it based on historical findings? Never heard of that before

[turbid shadow]

You know, let me make sure

I couldn't manage to find any, but heres some cool things

[slender fiber]

damn thats a lot of references

[turbid shadow]

https://books.google.fr/books?id=EzGTjiusL9EC&printsec=frontcover&hl=fr&source=gbs_ViewAPI&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

this has a lot of cool stuff that you may wanna check out

example

https://digital.wlb-stuttgart.de/pdf/urn:nbn:de:bsz:24-digibib-bsz3528837664/divid/LOG_0000

[turbid shadow]

that one also has a lotta cool stuff

https://www.pinterest.com/knyghterrant/ this guy has a lot of cool references For helmets and such

https://www.pinterest.com/tbiliter/

https://www.pinterest.com/macs_shop/

https://www.tumblr.com/george-steel-armours/186929373032/en-lightened-album-of-jorg-kölderer-realized

the bronze statues based on the concept art

https://www.nuremberg.museum/projects/show/587-albrecht-ii-innsbruck

https://www.pinterest.com/pushistyhvost/armet/

https://www.pinterest.com/pushistyhvost/sallet/

https://www.pinterest.com/pushistyhvost/11/

https://www.pinterest.com/pushistyhvost/barbutto/

https://www.pinterest.com/peterkalkman37/

https://www.pinterest.com/aboerbront/

[glossy knot]

God damn fencer

You have more armour content than an actual book I swear

[candid dawn]

Daamn these are really good my dude❤️

Thanks a lot for these!

[turbid shadow]

I'll continue on later, Pinterest is a really good way to have references

And in fact I have my own, but it does really lag sometimes because of the amount of things I saved

And theres no categories so you'll just scroll down

[turbid shadow]

all thanks to the folks on Pinterest

[turbid ether]

RoYaL aRmOuRiEs

[sly trench]

Wow, never saw the "skirt armor" in action. Didn't know it's so wobbly

[turbid shadow]

yea tonlet armor is very fancy, I could show more examples

hold on for a bit

[sly trench]

WOW

they were used on the battlefield?

[turbid shadow]

one of the weirder ones to be honest

[sly trench]

I thought it was tournament exclusive

[turbid shadow]

according to the drawing probably

I'd love to see tonlet armor on more games man

the only game I know that has one of these so called tonlet armor sets is a mobile game

[sly trench]

I had it in my previous build :)))

[turbid shadow]

called bloody bastards

[turbid shadow]

YOU HAD WHAT

[sly trench]

but it is super old build, made on ue4

and its crapp

y

[turbid shadow]

you didn't upload it anywhere right?

I didn't know this game had full plate armor already

more examples

[sly trench]

https://youtu.be/SPuIdsS_yuQ?t=98

this is literally the first thing I made on Unreal Engine, so its a piece of garbage

[turbid shadow]

sooo many cool armor that we haven't seen

[sly trench]

I may uplad a playable build here though :)))

[turbid shadow]

I'd love to play that!

its not even that bad

a lotta things are kinda clipping though

[sly trench]

hehe, I tried to make ps1 graphics at first. But the I decided it should be just a crappy 3d models with textures just stretched over them :)))

[turbid ether]

Now hear me out

[sly trench]

yee, it was just a little solo project for school, so I didnt care about visuals at all

[sly trench]

"bulletproof"

[turbid shadow]

really impressive for a solo project!

Maximillian armor

[sly trench]

Thank you!

[turbid shadow]

with grotesque helmet

[sly trench]

but now, when we have professionals working on our side, we can make a Real Tonlet Armor!!

and ugly helmets too!

btw, we have a barbute ready

will add it in the next update

[turbid shadow]

yeah, I saw it in the art work in progress thingy

@sly trench wanna see something cool?

https://robertoravioli.artstation.com/ look at this guys latest post

this guy somehow managed to make the exact same as this without missing it up

[sly trench]

Maximillian armor?

hehe

we should have it too!1

or wait...

[turbid shadow]

He also ported it into mordhau, if you've ever played that

[sly trench]

its too far in the future:)))

or......................

oh,sure

I played

[turbid shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785821250806480916/1055393934798499850/image.png heres one of the builds I made using his armor

[sly trench]

ok, Maximillan armor looks super

maybe we need it too :)))

[turbid shadow]

also, you think maybe allowing for accessories such as orles, plumes cool?

[sly trench]

Mordhau didnt have too many cool sets on the release though

they add them constantly

[turbid shadow]

Yeah, the armor I just showed you was on a modded server

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/785821250806480916/1055393630984093696/image.png?width=282&height=676 that gives you Wayyyy more options for armor

[sly trench]

I got one veeery cool set recently too

dragon armor

[turbid shadow]

That set is very awesome

I bought it when I first saw it lmao

and bth, it actually exists irl

I can show it to ya

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/573910521963610112/1055342182304841728/d33a0c647c560c9ee9e40c1cf5e69a38.jpg

[ruby hatch]

I honestly kinda like the sort of old school graphics.

[sly trench]

Gorgeous!

[sly trench]

but its late 16th century, right?

[turbid shadow]

I wouldn't be surprised

I dont know a lot of stuff about it, I just find it cool

lemme check

[sly trench]

we are trying to keep around 1450th

[turbid shadow]

oh really? I thought it was in the early 15th century

[sly trench]

yep, that was my initial idea

but @candid dawn loves sallets :)))

so we moved the brackets a bit :))))

[turbid shadow]

hmmm interesting

[sly trench]

let's say its early to mid 15th

I still want to have bascinets

[turbid shadow]

oh my beloved bascinets

https://platener.eu/zestawy_en.html

take a look at this place

has a lot of cool stuff of bascinets and armor

[sly trench]

yep, this one

and its fancy too

[turbid shadow]

The helmet from the game!

[turbid shadow]

his full kit is awesome too!

[sly trench]

hehe it might very well be the reference our modeler used :))

[turbid shadow]

its just that plume that looks quite eh about it but still very good

[sly trench]

I want this too

[turbid shadow]

that one would go well with bascinet

[sly trench]

ohh, the Agincourt armor

[sly trench]

initially this should have been my main visual reference

[turbid shadow]

I love the great helmet that he has on

[sly trench]

yes, me too!

but I also wanted armets and sallets to be in the game. And gothic armor is cool too

[turbid shadow]

From what I've heard from deod116, is that you guys want to go from century to century

make weapons/ armors in said century and than move on to the next one

that is if I didn't misunderstood him

[sly trench]

not quite like that. Our base game should be set in 15th century. But we can also make DLCs for Vikings or... Burgundians :)))

[turbid shadow]

ohhh so expansion packs

[sly trench]

yes!

[turbid shadow]

mmm alright

[sly trench]

but we will think about that later

for the base game we want to keep setting consistent

hehe

it would be cool though :))

[sly trench]

this

[turbid shadow]

for Burgundians you meant Herioc armor?

[sly trench]

like NFS Porsche Evolution

but about knights :)))

[turbid shadow]

knights with weapons and armor killin' each other

[sly trench]

Legendary tier :)))

[turbid shadow]

When I play this game, I just cant stop thinking about exanima for some reason

[sly trench]

I cant think about Exanima while making this game :)))))

[sly trench]

also our new music samples.... they remind me of that too :)))

[turbid shadow]

I even sometimes play some exanima ost while playing this game lol

[sly trench]

hehe

we have our own exanima ost IN the game now :))))))

OH DANG

[turbid shadow]

Sunset Sonata Beridan is such an awesome ost in that game

[sly trench]

i must pepare for the call with the author of those music :))))

ok ok I o now!

[turbid shadow]

Alrighty then, good luck!

[sly trench]

also I need to edit your videos!

want to upload the today :)))

[turbid shadow]

I wanna find more burgundain style of armor sets references for you guys

heres a plumed variant of one of the helmets that deod made

[neon cobalt]

https://www.facebook.com/KSK1475/about/?ref=page_internal

c. 1475 German reenactors

[turbid shadow]

He just dropped a bomb..............

[neon cobalt]

legalize nuclear bombs

[turbid shadow]

I knew having you here would be such awesome thing

[neon cobalt]

https://www.pinterest.se/katzb4lger/kit/ also my personal fun cool badass german stuff folder...

[candid dawn]

Ooohooo here we goo, more good stufff 🥲🥲🥲

[turbid shadow]

turns out the chained hosen was real thing!

[neon cobalt]

https://www.pinterest.se/katzb4lger/maille-strips/ more refs

[sullen charm]

🐣

[sullen charm]

(theoretical helmet)

[candid dawn]

Ayyy thats some nice pointy stuff 👌👌👌 i like 🥲

Very early 15th century no?

[sullen charm]

Late 14th early 15th yeah

Poland, Alla antique stylized probably Roman soldiers or barbarians

[sullen charm]

This type of visor is probably an artistic liberty done by the painter to match the blibical theme, but i think it might be a neat addition

[sullen charm]

Kit based on Alla antique artwork

[sullen charm]

From churburg i think

[candid dawn]

We got this ☝️👌

[sly trench]

Is this our bevor too?(:

Will we have the funny antennae knights?))

[sullen charm]

Are you guys accepting stuff from far eastern europe

Just so that we can have more antenna creatures

[limber badge]

@sly trench on the topic of eastern europe

all i want in terms of gear is the ability to wear a cool coat over your armor

is that planned?

or should i be asking deod

cause i still consider this the drippiest outfit ever created

[sullen charm]

The helmets not quite accurate tbh, especially since it's from osprey

(the real helmet)

[limber badge]

me resisting the urge to post a nerd emoji

https://tenor.com/view/urge-gif-24610801

[sullen charm]

🤓

[candid dawn]

Ayy nothing is impossible, rn if we can add the plate armor properly we can experiment with all sort of stuff 👌👌

[limber badge]

amazing

[sly trench]

I would say, that's not a huge problem (:

[sly trench]

We were going to have some physically simulated clothes anyway. And I haven't seen another game with pimp nights. We might be first)

[neon cobalt]

This was done plenty in western europe

[turbid shadow]

ohhhohoho I remember having the full manuscripit thing

hold on

the fookin

[golden ingot]

If this is the case, then hear me out

[neon cobalt]

https://www.pinterest.com/katzb4lger/bauernwehr-and-messers/ @candid dawn heres a collection i have of some nice messers, you might like them as reference for later

almost all are germanic 1450-1500

[candid dawn]

Ayyy these are great! Thanks my dude! :D❤️

[sullen charm]

based on a real find from lodz (poland)

[candid dawn]

ow thi stuff is good refrences, do you have more from poland based in the mid 15th century? @sullen charm

[sullen charm]

I'll send tomorrow

Besides that they pretty much wore German gear, so a kastenburst is a possibility if it's mid 15th

[candid dawn]

👌👌 anythign from mid 15th is super appriciated🥲

[turbid shadow]

Armor from the 1537

[neon cobalt]

https://pin.it/5QrmRxx https://pin.it/5Vvviw7

[candid dawn]

ayy this is beautiful! 😄

[sullen charm]

Irish - Scottish Lough henney helmet

[turbid shadow]

pretty cool helmet

[sullen charm]

Would be nice if we can get their laminar harness as well

[turbid shadow]

you know, what if we had scheke's think that'd be cool

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987081918363357194/1066079577828503643/95949074_3261503187216282_5941074638166556672_o.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/987081918363357194/1066079578159849604/fa57ae533d0499dc72d35b0031096320.jpg

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/987081918363357194/1066079578382143509/95c302a2593bf6488761264bbc360dd6.jpg?width=380&height=676

[sullen charm]

I think Katz has a pin dedicated to it (posted it on top as well i think)

[turbid shadow]

hmm, cool

[sullen charm]

Super good

[turbid shadow]

https://www.pinterest.com/tbiliter/gilt-armour/pieces-from-2d-art/

[sullen charm]

Lithuanian and west Rus eastern conical helmet with rondel and bevor hybrid, taken from the radzivil chronicle

The rondel is attached to the bevor, something you don't see everyday

[sullen charm]

Eastern Helmets like this (from Belarus)

That + German bevor with rondel attached to it

And a flag on top

[sullen charm]

Irish effigy dated to 14th - 15th century

The bascinet based on it, not sure if it's supposed to be blackened like this though

[turbid shadow]

Great bascinet

cool 15th century sets

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/22277

[neon cobalt]

https://pin.it/1gz75RL german daggeraxes (dolchstreithammers)

Some were more like warhammers tho

And some were mounted on quite long hafts

[golden ingot]

Something on the subject, page 191-> https://www.armeemuseum.de/images/publikationen/2021_Schatzkammer_online.pdf

[neon cobalt]

ooh panzerhosen is cool

none of the stuff in game rn would fit with it tho

[sullen charm]

Scandinavian baggy trousers

1300

1500 - 1501

[neon cobalt]

Wolfs tooth fluting..

[sullen charm]

да

[sullen charm]

Hosen with flame pattern, from oratorio di san giovanni

[turbid shadow]

I could’ve sworn that I’ve wanted to post this for so long, just didn’t find drawing

[sullen charm]

It was on a Pinterest account i followed heh

[turbid shadow]

@sly trench https://www.pinterest.com/annebhd/wappen-des-heyligen-römischen-reichs-teutscher-nat/ I think Ive sent this here before but yeah a lotta cool landsknechts

[sly trench]

Awesome!! Thank you! @candid dawn you should see this too!

[sly trench]

@candid dawn and this!

[turbid shadow]

like this one is pure baller I cannot lie

[sly trench]

@candid dawn and this....

love this one so much

[sly trench]

yee this should be a 5-star lootbox stuff

[candid dawn]

ayy this is some hot stuff!

😄

[round siren]

whats the point with the pointy noses? what use did they make in combat

[languid kindle]

deflects arrows sometimes

[sullen charm]

mspaint diagram i made to try and explain this

of course a 2d representation of physics in a 3d space isnt the best

but you get the jist of it

[neon cobalt]

https://pin.it/5RCDNfM for if yall wanna do more textile armor

[round siren]

Thank you, this is art work. it made me shed a tear

[turbid shadow]

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/27791 almostttt mid 15th century but here anyways

[turbid shadow]

1464-1465, Jaume Huguet, Reial Capella Santa Agata, Barcelona

could possibly be the first boss!

[sullen charm]

I think there was a corrazina with a similar chest decoration in the middle too

[halcyon apex]

@sly trench take a look at what i found

it might be useful

for dismembered legs

[golden ingot]

Now I’m not much of an anatomy expert, but aren’t biceps triceps and the brachialis apart of our arms?

[halcyon apex]

I don't think, looking at the images, the biceps bone is more in the middle and has less divisions between the muscles, as for the thigh muscles, it has more divisions and looks more like the image I sent earlier.

the top image would be the legs, and the bottom would be the biceps and triceps.

[halcyon apex]

Sorry, it's the arm, I saw that the image has a muscle close to the biceps.

[sullen charm]

Guh

[lapis hamlet]

Lechon.

[sullen charm]

The pig.

[turbid shadow]

SCHEKE

[sullen charm]

Tru!

[sullen charm]

Since references for bardiches was asked, here's some 15th century ones

[turbid shadow]

https://www3.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/40001081?img=2 aaahaajajaa

[sullen charm]

katana

[warped surge]

it's a medival game not a samurai game

[sullen charm]

Samurais are medieval though

[warped vessel]

not european

[sullen charm]

Wouldn't hurt to have east asian stuff one day

[warped vessel]

it would. asian people arent real...

[winged glade]

no

[sullen charm]

Fr I'd kill to get dressed like this in game in the far future

[sullen charm]

asian people dont exist

[warped surge]

I think Asian people are robots

[unkempt hawk]

you cannot convince me that those korean stars arent robots with silicone faux skin

[warped surge]

[blissful tundra]

the "legs" cross section is arms. its got the ulnar and radial nerves, and the humerus bone.- 🤓

[wary veldt]

where i download the game

somebody can help me?

[blissful tundra]

on itch.io

i wish i knew how to open it though

i hate the launcher system for itch

[warped vessel]

dont use the launcher lol

just download it

[blissful tundra]

A ton of helmet designs in a meme template.

[limber badge]

Spangenhelm Is drippy as hell

[turbid shadow]

@sullen charm death

[sullen charm]

😕

[warped surge]

Suicide

Nah fr tho i choose frog mouth

[winged glade]

Frog-mouth looks like a toilet

[edgy prawn]

The frog mouth looks like dark/demon souls one

[mystic brook]

Bro Hounskull is for pinocchio 💀

[wise vigil]

Bascinet

[full delta]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-angry-hulk-smash-pissed-off-mad-gif-16087208

[sullen charm]

Great helm FTW

[golden ingot]

Can’t really tell the difference between the Torse and Orle unless they’re just the same thing but it’d be real nice if they made an appearance in the game, I really love the color it adds to the steel

[sullen charm]

Various cool brigandines

[turbid shadow]

I'm so glad I made you know of this game

this fucking awesome ass game

[sullen charm]

Mostly from French/Flemish sources (except the ones with the tassets which are from the Pastrana Tapestry)

[turbid shadow]

you think this fits with the period of this game?

[sullen charm]

Of course

[turbid shadow]

and stuff like this y'know

would fucking go hard with this game

especially the red dude in the purple dude

[sullen charm]

True, but that's the dev's decision if he wants all'antica stuff or keep it "real"

[turbid shadow]

oh I did send in all'antica stuff deod likes it pretty much If I recall

[sullen charm]

Although some all'antica elements can definitely be used irl like some pauldrons and such

[turbid shadow]

they also want Bascinets to be in the game too, I did do my own posting of that stuff

I can't wait to be walking around with armor like this

[turbid shadow]

I'll post the full thing later

[golden ingot]

I know most suits of armor are specifically built to be one comprehensive suit, but it would be cool to see them try a random armor generator kinda similar to the swords

[tepid steppe]

It’s a harness not a suit of armor 🫣

[turbid shadow]

I always thought of something like that, but the issue is that the game is trying to be accurate with its armor so that wouldn't really make sense I guess

[golden ingot]

https://youtu.be/TablMu23n0U not sure how credible this is but thanks for the info, for anyone else wondering about the difference this helps(if you have any information to prove this as not credible please tell me soon).

[golden ingot]

Well the issue comes when there’s only a few full harnesses, which considering the way we set up our choice of weapons and armor in the menu there’s bound to be mismatched armor pieces regardless

[tepid steppe]

harness is just the period name for what people call a "suit of armor" on top of that its also interchangeable with a lot of languages
harnisch in german
harness in english
harnais or harnois in french
harnesk in swedish
harnas in dutch

its also shorter too

[golden ingot]

So it’s just semantics?

[tepid steppe]

kind of, its just the more accurate way of saying it since "suit of armor" was never really used

[golden ingot]

Fabric covered cuirasses would be a very nice addition, a solid way to tell who’s on who’s side

[mortal terrace]

They're low key baller af

[turbid shadow]

We all agree with that lol

[sullen charm]

Finally someone not calling it placard over brigandine

Slight repost but I love that brigandine with a lance rest (the standalone piece is from an italian brig (or corazzina) from around the 1450s with notches to attach a lance rest)

sadly I can't find any recent pictures because there's a strong possibility that it got either lost of destroyed during ww2

[turbid shadow]

I can't recall, is maxi armor late 15th century or 16th century?

[sullen charm]

16

[turbid shadow]

dang it

woulda loved for it to appear in game, but oh well

[sullen charm]

However you see the premises of similar shaped stuff in the very last years on the 15thc

[turbid shadow]

what about these tonlet Harnesses, do they fit the time period?

[sullen charm]

Absolutely not

[turbid shadow]

as I thought so

[sullen charm]

Well it depends what period devs are going for exactly

And if it's strictly second half of 15thC., then no

[sullen charm]

Nice nice

[sullen charm]

Schecken

[turbid shadow]

oh yea I remember doing my own scheke posting lol

would look awesome ingame

you know it would be a combo if the hosen can have a cross like the scheke here

[sullen charm]

reposting this one cuz the one I posted before was low qual for some reasons

[sullen charm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/981636595729965086/1088479943836569730/fkng8o24f3i91.webp?width=207&height=676

[turbid shadow]

mm yeah something like that

I remember you posted something on the aeternis server

hold on a bitty

[sullen charm]

Was it the swiss guy

[turbid shadow]

I think so, I just remember it being black and orange maybe

and he had a cross in his left leg

[turbid shadow]

yeppp

exactly that

[sullen charm]

Imma go on aeternis methinks

[turbid shadow]

also yeah what about the fuckin

Milanese armor

the thingy that roberto has been making

[sullen charm]

Maille mittens rondel hi hello

[turbid shadow]

@candid dawn here ya go, one drawing with multiple scheke designs I guess

wait haven't I sent this before?

[grim ember]

right here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kressenbrunn

[turbid shadow]

good good

[golden ingot]

A sort of soft body piece that appears in the painting of the man carrying a crossbow

[sullen charm]

Oh yeah I love these jacks

[golden ingot]

Gotta admire their sense of fashion back then

[surreal pawn]

Cool axe and artwork

[mortal terrace]

https://youtu.be/_2zNfepNpb8

[tall garnet]

Pictorial references and descriptions:
https://www.pinterest.se/macs_shop/_saved/
https://www.pinterest.se/aboerbront/_saved/
https://www.pinterest.com/khaentlahn/
(there's probably a few dozen armorers I've found on Pinterest)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Nt741qNuMfXqY9But7F1oJlxMhAeyZxd
https://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilami/albums/

goofy ah videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjKbi7YUNaI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mflAGxs0mgM

bonus weebshit:
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/MwYKqBX/1/1/

[candid dawn]

AHH this is great stuff!! ❤️

[sullen charm]

Multiple albums of artefacts and visual sources from different centuries
https://www.flickr.com/photos/roelipilami/albums
Musée de l'Armée, Paris :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/98015679@N04/albums/72157634746853426/page1

[turbid shadow]

the two knights that are in the kickstarter for the funnies

[quasi portal]

What is wrong with the first guys eyebrows

[sullen charm]

that's the sallet's eye slits....

[sullen charm]

that's just the line getting thinner

[sullen charm]

i dont even know what you're trying to circle other than that

[quasi portal]

That

[sullen charm]

yeah that's just the line getting thinner

medieval artists made mistakes too

[manic bobcat]

we need witton le wear and coventry sallets

witton le wear

coventry

victoria and albert sallet

these are all supposedly english

[candid dawn]

O yes we doo!!!

[restive isle]

engilsh

[scarlet reef]

Word

[sullen charm]

wordington

[golden ingot]

A Sallet with the Gorget attached to the visor, found it to be pretty interesting, but it should be mentioned that it is a early 16th Century copy of a 15th century manuscript as stated https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Solothurner_Fechtbuch_(Cod.S.554)

[golden ingot]

Here appears to be the original of what was mentioned

[turbid shadow]

cool men

[candid dawn]

when fashion actually made sense and had function🤌

[turbid shadow]

fashion today vs fashion in the middle ages:

[candid dawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=memDWTAvcXs&ab_channel=EpidemicElectronic

[golden ingot]

☝️🤓

[turbid shadow]

I stare

[golden ingot]

Perhaps??

[turbid shadow]

ULTIMATE BRUGUNDY MAN

[sullen charm]

it's true

polehammer is also burgundian apparently, and housed in berne iicr but i was too lazy to fact check this so i have to trust the overpriced smith

[golden ingot]

Examples are not of century BUT regardless of such, with full plate duels, it would be pretty cool to see a secondary slot that could switched to by either throwing your weapon or sheathing it, that way you could pin point gaps in the armor with a more effectively precise dagger

[turbid shadow]

my god that guys harness is fucking beautiful, although looks quite weird

[tall garnet]

this looks 17th century

[golden ingot]

Yea my bad, I should’ve realized it was a closed helm, unfortunately I had it next to some foot helms of the 15th century

[golden ingot]

Two Armets from the mid 15th century, or around 1440

[candid dawn]

Hot stufff

[golden ingot]

Pretty cool😀

[golden ingot]

First image is a rug☝️

[turbid shadow]

English armor, fuckin love the great bascinet of his

[tall garnet]

way out of style but the time Halfsword's aesthetic was prevalent

[golden ingot]

Anyone got a clue on what kind Sallet this dude wearing

[sullen charm]

the sallet

[turbid shadow]

Thought it was this for a second

Not really Sure…. Although I do remember seeing it in some other manuscripts

[tall garnet]

love me some real fake helmets

[golden ingot]

Just thought it was interesting😕

[sudden veldt]

wheres the art from?

may be able to narrow it down

looks italian to me

actually

more that i look at it

it might be burgundian

[golden ingot]

https://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=mid&IllID=57373

[candid dawn]

Warwicks armor ❤️

[turbid shadow]

a life of Milanese

[lucid epoch]

jesus

tha would be heavy and hard to walk in

and to see in

[turbid shadow]

Not as heavy as you’d expect it to be

[manic bobcat]

probably not that hard to walk in

hard to see in, yes

and breathe in

depending on helmet style

also could get hot

that said i personally intend to get a somewhat light configuration

[silk tusk]

Could you even freaking see out of that?

[manic bobcat]

yes

the holes look a lot bigger an inch in front of your eyes

[sudden veldt]

if we do not get milanese style armours in this game i will FLIP

[candid dawn]

milanese style armor will be in the game 🙂

[turbid shadow]

yeahhhhh babyy

[manic bobcat]

Are brigandines coming?

[candid dawn]

Yes, in the future 🙂

[manic bobcat]

awesome

[sudden veldt]

and THIS is why we love deod

[shut orbit]

Is that holy body armor

[turbid shadow]

Italian helmet that's dated in the 1470, found on the royal Armories collection

[manic bobcat]

kettle hat plus tall bevor

[candid dawn]

We have that helmet in the backlog! :))

[turbid shadow]

Literally just realized that after posting it lol

we don’t have that bevor of it yet yeah?

[candid dawn]

Naa that one is to be done 🥲

We will have it

[turbid shadow]

This game is HYPE

great bascinet guy with a Milanese harness on hin

[manic bobcat]

dat's an anglo

[sullen charm]

i think they are called buffe

[manic bobcat]

same thing lol

[sullen charm]

yes

but no !!! ☝️🤓

if you have 20000 IQ you should call bevors barbutes

[manic bobcat]

yes but that sounds weird and confusing

[sullen charm]

It does but it's funny

[sick fable]

that sucks bro

its great

[turbid shadow]

huh

[sick fable]

it looks amazing

[sullen charm]

No

[turbid shadow]

the same picture hunts us all I see lol

kinda funny because I see the same thing in like any medieval game server

[sullen charm]

At least it's not Christos giannopoulos

[turbid shadow]

He’s the same person that drew the funky sallet yeah?

[shut orbit]

I love this

[timber saffron]

bro the mask

[blissful tundra]

Isn’t this picture some sort of historically inaccurate “armor evolution”

[turbid shadow]

yes, exactly

[sullen charm]

I love how the game has been announced to take place during the mid-late 15thC. but ppl still manage to post stuff that isn't within that period

[sullen charm]

he's so badass

[turbid shadow]

http://zeughaus.borisgauda.ru/personalia/artpieces-list.html

Pretty cool place that has some cool references

[limber badge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsqUlxHfxAQ

idk if their gear is accurate to half swords setting but their movements and stuff could all be used as reference

[frail lagoon]

i just realised u can now block overhead swings easily by grabbing the other bit of the sword

[blissful tundra]

holy shit i love dequitem

[turbid shadow]

churburg cuirass as well as helmet

looking to find more pics of the thing

[sullen charm]

[frail lagoon]

Average half sword enjoyer

[small moss]

What's the source on that?

[frail lagoon]

Prob just half sword on google

[silk tusk]

Update; I tested it out by looking through a bunch of super tiny holes made in a foldable weebshit fan, you could still see a good amount through.

[tall garnet]

http://bibliodyssey.blogspot.com/2007/11/duke-dress-and-heraldry.html

[unkempt rampart]

Isn’t that the Black Prince’s?

[tacit timber]

i will change this because the sword is too short

[frail lagoon]

Nicee

[wicked mist]

meant to post this in references mb

[turbid shadow]

made this one in seconds

I want to take actual examples of real heraldry and recreate them here

[tacit timber]

forgot to show a simpler design

[frail lagoon]

Nice

[fleet merlin]

you still awake??

gah dayum

[frail lagoon]

For me its 3 am

In Azerbaijan

In england its like twelve lol

[fleet merlin]

its 1:30 am for me

[frail lagoon]

Oh

Lol

[frail lagoon]

my bad

not done yet

[turbid shadow]

heraldry looks pretty good

[sullen charm]

thanks i made a ton

[timber saffron]

Final attempt to redesign.

[turbid shadow]

https://youtu.be/r3sCcRk5Qs4

[hollow holly]

hear me out

[wind widget]

WE NEED THAT

[young crescent]

Bro

Y have to add dpi options

[turbid shadow]

1460 France, KBR ms. 9547 - Petit Jean de Saintre got these from @sullen charm

[frail lagoon]

i love that type of art

[marble coral]

We should really add this!

[turbid shadow]

the plume?

actually I think we already have that

[turbid shadow]

so sad

[marble coral]

badass...

cant wait to see more varied styles of armour later down the line!!!

[turbid shadow]

scheke hehehe

[marble coral]

this will be me in halfsword

[turbid shadow]

I kinda sent some stuff about them already if I recall

hmm

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1055560006407303188/1088734183179952138/image.png

[marble coral]

youd look so hot and sexy if u wore that fencer

the colour suits u 😘

[turbid shadow]

da

[turbid shadow]

ikr right

so many good combos could be done with schekes

the time period of the game allows for a lot of good shit to be added too

[marble coral]

what is it exactly?

14th - 16th?

[turbid shadow]

1430 to-1480 I think

[marble coral]

ooo thats very cool

focusing on one period of armour would be sick since there would be more of that type of armour to chose from

where as mordhau u have like 5 decent 15th cent cuirasses

[golden ingot]

Cool book

[frail lagoon]

we gonna make it out the collosuem with this one 💯

[hybrid gazelle]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dZLXt_ghtt4 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G4rnn7kZU9Y

[dark niche]

My favorite channel

[turbid shadow]

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057636212394&sk=photos this person has some nice stuff

he has some nice kits and shows a lot of pics of them, which is really nice

[candid dawn]

Love the sallet❤️❤️

[turbid shadow]

yeah, his stuff is pretty cool like I said

[frail lagoon]

nah just for that we need to make half sword irl

part 2)

[turbid shadow]

what

[manic bobcat]

what an unusual helmet

[turbid shadow]

https://www.pinterest.com/aboerbront/xvth-century-italian-armour/

[mystic lagoon]

Add guns and drip to the game like this

[frail lagoon]

wtf happened to bro

[copper nova]

I bet he felt real smart not wearing any leg armour

[umbral tiger]

slicing through solid plate HOW

[small moss]

Source on this? This is some fun looks.

[turbid shadow]

its an anonymous manuscript sadly

[sullen charm]

https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/cpg152/0521/image,info,thumbs look a lot like this ms

i think it's that particular ms actually but can't look at all the invidual miniatures

@small moss ^

[lethal meteor]

ребята помогите как играть с других карт

[gusty mantle]

В новой демке? Никак

[lethal meteor]

пон

[small moss]

Thanks!

the picture posted originally is folio 23r

[tulip crown]

https://tenor.com/view/soldiers-elevator-looking-come-on-lets-go-gif-16991748

[turbid shadow]

I love this bth

[stuck pelican]

cloth over armor idk, might look badass..

PADDING!!!!!!!!!

VIKING LARP!

[golden palm]

errrmrmmm thats acthsually a gambeson

[stuck pelican]

gambeson all over your mom

[golden palm]

ujdjejsns

dhshajahan

[spice obsidian]

Isn’t gambeson a padded armor?

[tight sand]

viking larp 💀

i hope its a joke

[tight sand]

it would be nice. Surcoat was common back in the days

its early 15th century but still. I just couldnt
find mid 15th stuff. But i ve seen some sources with that

[stuck pelican]

we got like viking axes already, why not expand on it

[frail lagoon]

the whole game is just basically half axe

but it would be cool to see another great axe yknow

[marsh bronze]

The scyche is the great axe now}

[west coral]

if I could wish for anything it'd be waffenrocks, especially those with pointed/rounded ends like these

[marsh bronze]

lol

[tight sand]

wtf is the viking axe

[stuck pelican]

axe but axy

[tight sand]

btw two handed or one handed axe is not a weapon for a viking. It is spear a shield. Vikings were known for fighting in formation while axe was quite common for knight as a secondary weapon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyLpRLgD77A

here its 14th century axe

and 100 precent they were used in 15th century

moreover it doesnt have to a battle axe to

it could be the weapon to recreate peasants and etc

[stuck pelican]

wtf

I thought they used 2 handed axes, smaller ones

Or stuff like this

[ruby vector]

stop nerding out

[willow fiber]

Let the guy nerd out

Hes clearly having fun

[agile trench]

No, met him nerd out, it’s how we keep a setting for a historically themed game solid

Helmer

[west coral]

agreed, i think it'd be nice if the game had a really solid/accurate depiction of arms and armor from a specific time period

as opposed to something like mordhau where anything goes

[candid dawn]

We will have our focus on the European 15th century, we wont mix periods for arms and armor from different periods and areas of the world. Locations will be unspecific but it will be within the peropd of what you would see in the 15th century in Europe. 🙂

[marsh bronze]

Straight up shit 🔥 🔥 🔥

[sullen charm]

Ong

[stuck pelican]

Why 15th century?

[candid dawn]

Why not 😉

[stuck pelican]

Chain Mail is awsome

[candid dawn]

Will come in future 🙂

[stuck pelican]

Will you make armor dent, have scratch marks, or cut. Especially stuff like chain mail in the future?

[frail lagoon]

oh my god

imagine

chainmail

we dont need to bc the game is just tooo goood

[frail lagoon]

sooon

[south gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1014213757204971601/1161081257350930462/ezgif-4-e70c209e22.gif?ex=6537002f&is=65248b2f&hm=e029be98707a8fb3d41e5d0b8c713da646cb89b5cb00679240e13c0ca7422f32&

half sword refrence

[stuck pelican]

does nothing against mace

[stuck pelican]

scythe

[iron ledge]

wouldn't the common soldier still have often worn a mail shirt in the 15th century?

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/26849
yeah mail shirts were still around by the 1400s

[sharp island]

Yeah maille is pretty common in the 15th century but you don't always see it used

In Italy you see a lot of brigandine only guys

Or people wearing padded jacks

Guy with a jack and maille on his doublet sleeves

Some soldiers

[sharp island]

Still exist in the 16th century

[hallow hearth]

Portugese Armor (late 15th century)
Brigandine like armor with spaced out studs that were placed horizontaly
The helmets have a colored lining that goes over them, with rivets and ornaments on top of the helmet

[iron ledge]

Drippy as all heck

[gentle osprey]

very surprised theres no brigandine ingame

[sharp island]

Early build

[fleet junco]

the brigandine with the tassets

[west coral]

because 15th c. is the drippiest my man

i really hope we get to see some armor paint, sallets etc

[tender estuary]

Hey that's me

[turbid shadow]

Welcome aboard branko

[tender estuary]

Thank you!

[sullen charm]

erm akshually

[agile trench]

WHERES MAH GAWH DAMN MALLE BRAIES

[agile trench]

omg hi bossk

[sullen charm]

hiii tehe

[tender estuary]

So many mordhauians...

[turbid shadow]

its a mix out of everything

[weak halo]

Spiked duel shields anyone?

[tight sand]

not just mordhauians but mordhauians nerds 💀

[tender estuary]

The nerds are the best part of mordhau

[pliant minnow]

mordhau experts' carefully planned strategies being reduced to nothing when a half sword fan comes along with a scythe

[mental geode]

proceeds to get split in half like a boss

[hallow hearth]

To complete the sets of italian armor, a italian armet should def be made

wrapper can be a secondary attatchment just like the bevor

[tender estuary]

^

[agile trench]

Would need to make the wrapper only equipable with the armet though

[turbid shadow]

armets will always be awesome

[tiny valve]

only the real ones chose close helmet

Battle of Towton,
you can the different drip of 15th Century

[turbid shadow]

those are way too late for half sword

[tiny valve]

bruh i thought we were going to debate

[tiny valve]

nice drip

[turbid shadow]

not really as I like both styles of helmets

[tiny valve]

ok

[stuck pelican]

Bro I want a actual closed helmet and normal hit boxes for the neck protection

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166949002177171487/1166949002638528532/image.png?ex=654c58f3&is=6539e3f3&hm=2f4f327f2465854fed5fe6128b464e4137e96e0412b0f4f6bcfb0924a93fd682&

Whuuttt the helll

[agile trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1151152468328202360/Screenshot_20230912-135950.jpg?ex=654a4047&is=6537cb47&hm=8da4393230ff8569ee759db3c13cdef690c2632f0594cece5d44cbceca5dd5c8&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1149736320642588863/363341811_666105178885113_657195085447957177_n.jpg?ex=65451963&is=6532a463&hm=1d31b086f50f8f6242975277af46d6ebe5389e7e8a9e260f0f550cfdbd31945a&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1116411893305856020/349186110_965718227795791_8995256172042494226_n.jpg?ex=6543d619&is=65316119&hm=620454cadcb7e6a1886e9e7a8c9bf1caaa910ec7a2b24d20d50c36d103bb78d4&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1116411886527848529/IMG_9085.jpg?ex=6543d617&is=65316117&hm=fdc7421dc099cfcc5ff09e0cf42d34bd3fe4b1cb37626ad24c3a36cc3b31957f&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1116411899853144207/349612568_1154151952644275_582240150551650042_n.jpg?ex=6543d61a&is=6531611a&hm=e1ce77f9bd31e84bfebc8266284f24c319de0429fe4b976b6cd4fdf3b77837cb&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1116411880173473822/350133837_614522000618959_24679120792041621_n.jpg?ex=6543d616&is=65316116&hm=7ccdf604452456ab5ff5ea5e03e553c6eec5d1d05205cbae25dbbfac85736ab9&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1116411840084332696/IMG_9078.jpg?ex=6543d60c&is=6531610c&hm=d10deb97448e6561df0fecf61e8a4ae22e5b53c1290f90c4e089c7db869e041f&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1116411636970963094/350114791_144027678669819_732261926523390206_n.jpg?ex=6543d5dc&is=653160dc&hm=e3da055b890df9dd95c552c65d6699dcea5bc72e2c0d466ae54f604b4a0b91ce&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795108714083909632/1116411642087997510/350120625_779587187036011_7933660699616843487_n.jpg?ex=6543d5dd&is=653160dd&hm=6ce5faea3b8be177e774c891e61752506a31e170812231f27ed1a7b970cdd5f4&

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[candid dawn]

oh ye this is some good stuff! ❤️

[agile trench]

Only for you and the rest of the team

[stuck pelican]

One must imagine fancier clothing on top of mail

visor helmets?

Shoulder armor with ridges

This is later 15th, but the neck protection is something you guys should add as a secondary one. Same with the belt

Belt holsters

[sudden veldt]

if they somehow get belted scabbards to work in this game id actually nut

[agile trench]

We should keep in mind the the theme is a later 15th, bascinets and plate of such design would be a little out of place

[manic bobcat]

great bascinets could work

[turbid shadow]

yep^

[tepid steppe]

such a cool harness

[turbid shadow]

Indeed!

[agile trench]

Took me too fucking long to realize that those aren’t oculars and they’re just ornate gems or something

[agile trench]

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[true hornet]

Sallet my beloved

[agile trench]

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The bevor in question

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[turbid shadow]

The bevor killer

[agile trench]

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[turbid shadow]

Reminds me of this guy heh

[agile trench]

Civi clothing jumpscare

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