halfsword-chat-⚔

[restive barn]

i think they did... some testing

[pliant crest]

That’s the biggest reason this feels like a rug pull

[pliant crest]

Nothing that made any difference in what…the one day they had testers with a test build?

[shell bronze]

early access implies that i get a game that's somewhat close to the finished product and should expect minor to moderate problems

[languid nest]

bro

[restive barn]

well obviously not, it may feel like one but it's not

[languid nest]

calling this a rugpull 😭

this is so lame

[pliant crest]

I’ll believe that when they update again

[restive barn]

it's hyperbole

[shell bronze]

PAID product btw

[rotund palm]

to be fair EA is trying to pretend that its an AAA game, while the dev team is considered indie, they need to work with smaller stuff so they can work faster and have a faster game, im just playing devils advocate though i dont agree with these guys

[pliant crest]

Once again, main issue is the lack of communication and any transparency at all.

[shell bronze]

this is missing straight content and still has gremlins from the free demo that have not been addressed since forever

[restive barn]

seriously just ATLEAST release a small patch buffing armor

[sleek gull]

That is high expectations for most EA games, lol. Most that I play are like 20% complete and sit in EA for 3 or so years

[pliant crest]

Literally anything

Like, they could’ve done so much small stuff to improve shit

[shell bronze]

which is a terrible paradigm shift imo

[pliant crest]

But no

Nothing at all to improve on anything rn.

[shell bronze]

the moment i throw money at the game it should be at least beta

[tiny pecan]

I've sunk 20 hours already on the game, I'm more than satisfied

[rotund palm]

plate?

[restive barn]

ye

[buoyant oyster]

Found an "old" vid in my things where I timed a pause after smashing someone's head open in the void beta

[rotund palm]

they should nerf blunt instead

blunt damage

[shell bronze]

1000 in demo and 200 in early access before i stopped playing entirely

[sleek gull]

Very far from the original intent of Early Access, which was just pay extra to play a game a couple weeks earlier than others.

[rotund palm]

plate is pretty good at sharp weapons

[shell bronze]

absolutely

[restive barn]

alr i gtg

[shell bronze]

used to be basically like a thank you for buying special/supporter editions

[tiny pecan]

Dawg, for 20 bucks you have played more than enough

Move on

[pliant crest]

Bai, have a good one chrome dome💙

[shell bronze]

nowadays it's glorified alpha/pre-alpha testing

[tiny pecan]

Watch some documentaries

[rotund palm]

beta was BRUTAL lmao

[buoyant oyster]

One whack to the head was all it took sometimes

[shell bronze]

if this is how you view playing the game then i will respectfully choose not to engage

i would rather have 20 bucks go to a steak dinner

[small glen]

Wassup clueless

[shell bronze]

what's up boss

[pliant crest]

I was gonna say something unhinged as fuck to this, but I chose peace instead.

[shell bronze]

😂

gotta abide by the almighty rulebook

[sleek gull]

but then big devs started thinking, hey, we can get people to pay US to stress test our severs.

Then it was, we can get people to pay extra to make sure it is balanced

Then it was, we can get people to pay us before we actually go to market with a full product, and beta test for us

lol. I love early access, but i'm not blind enough to forget that we are basically paying companies to do their work for them. This used to be a paid position lol, not a charged one.

[supple ember]

The only thing I expected is that it’s atleast better than the demo, which I guess in some very specific things it is, but in most the demo is lol

[rotund palm]

it still is but i didnt expect the CRANIAL PLATES to pop out

[buoyant oyster]

And eyes

[pliant crest]

You should know by now I follow it when I choose

[buoyant oyster]

Hell, even the brain goes brrr

[shell bronze]

this is exactly how it is

[rotund palm]

you can pirate the game

[rotund palm]

DIDNT EVEN SEE

[small glen]

I haven't played half sword in like a month bruh, I don't hate the game. Just mildly disappointed and waiting for updates rly

[shell bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/contemplating-thinking-gif-17339853886032698653

[buoyant oyster]

Is that why you have a mugshot

[pliant crest]

I have a mugshot?

Did they at least get my good side?

[sleek gull]

Join us back in the Demo where most of the OGs here went back to lol

[buoyant oyster]

Brother you look like a junkie pulled out from a meat grinder what do you think

[small glen]

I'll think about it

[shell bronze]

higher level core (as in bare bones) gameplay is way better

[pliant crest]

Tf? 😂😂😂

I’m not a brother

[tiny pecan]

Dawg, you paid 20 bucks and got 200 hours of entertainment

[buoyant oyster]

Nor a sister

[shell bronze]

you know ya game is cooked when all the advanced players abandon the paid product and return to the free demo

[tiny pecan]

What you doing in this discord

Just move on, look for other game

[pliant crest]

That’s what I’m doing

[shell bronze]

yeah and i paid 0 for 1000 that was more enjoyable so what's up with that

perspective son

[sharp thunder]

ea isnt even that bad tf

[pliant crest]

Tbh, actual dogshit opinion

[buoyant oyster]

Are you sure

[pliant crest]

Did you play the free demo?

[shell bronze]

if no likey then don't play 😂😂😂😂

ok bro

[tiny pecan]

Opinions like assholes, if you like it, lick it

[ember fern]

i just want split screen to stop crashing 🙁

[shell bronze]

i'm not allowed to discuss how a fun and infinitely replayable game i used to love and support became less fun and replayable

[pliant crest]

This sounds like some shit an edgy 14 year old would say thinking they some hot shit 😂😂😂

[tiny pecan]

No problem, enjoy madding

[shell bronze]

"Y-YOU'RE MAD BRO!"

https://tenor.com/view/people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-that-friend-who-keeps-lying-shut-up-attention-kamedwards-gif-10041408647564294101

[pliant crest]

If we hated the game, we wouldn’t be discussing the issues

[tiny pecan]

What you mean, I'm hot shit

[pliant crest]

We discuss the issues because we like the game and want to see it better than whatever this state is

[buoyant oyster]

Put him to bed you did

[shell bronze]

who tryna pay some random code monkeys to implement the jankiest most dogshit demo multiplayer ever

i'll go halfsies

[sleek gull]

Imo, it depends how far invested you were in the Demo combat physics.

I can see someone who played the Demo for like 20 hours feeling like EA is fine.

But those with like 300 or more hours in the Demo have a more critical eye, because they engaged deeply with the Demo combat physics. Going well beyond the basic skill set, and learning how to manipulate the movement in intricate ways.

[languid nest]

they never said the game was close to being done

ever

ts pmo

[tiny pecan]

People playing 300 hours on the demo need a family intervention

[languid nest]

i played both a lot like 300 hours each or something

[buoyant oyster]

Me with 100 hours using a glitch to launch myself at enemies in the demo to 1 tap them with a hammer or fist

[elder tendon]

i've played the demo for over 100 hrs and vastly prefer the EA version, the only thing i miss is being to able to select randomized loadouts based on tiers.

[pliant crest]

They also didn’t inform us they’d be downgrade the paid version from where the free version was

[languid nest]

exactly

[sleek gull]

There is a significant number of players who are well passed the 500 hour mark. lol

[tiny pecan]

I like the arcade gameplay loop of the demo, that's about it

[shell bronze]

your whole entire argument here is to tell people to get a life and you have 20 hours on a game where most people have 600+

[pliant crest]

Just ignore him bro, he’s been rage baiting

[languid nest]

i thought you blocked me for being a “troll”
anyways it’s not a downgrade i prefer it to the demo a lot

[shell bronze]

worst bait ever

[pliant crest]

He hasn’t added anything to the convo

[languid nest]

you just call anything you don’t like “bait”

[pliant crest]

I unblocked after I figured you quit rage baiting, but I can put it back if you like

[languid nest]

just mad to be mad

[rotund palm]

im genuinely confused whose side is which lol

[sleek gull]

This whole discussion is ratebait in a sense.

I just like to step it to inject facts. I have no horse in this race in all reality.

[pliant crest]

I’m not even mad bro, you’re the one telling us we wrong

I’m literally just saying “these are issue” and yall are going “NOOOOO NO ISSUES HERE”

[small glen]

I am team demo > Ea FOR NOW

I know in the next year

It will be Ea > Demo

[pliant crest]

It makes no damn sense

[languid nest]

there are issues

but they’re understandable

[pliant crest]

You’ve argued against every issue we’ve stated just about

[sleek gull]

What changes to the combat physics do you specifically enjoy in Early Access?

[languid nest]

i don’t j there was a rugpull or scam

[languid nest]

i enjoy the weapon customization

[sleek gull]

That is a tangent to the combat physics, but not really what I meant.

[languid nest]

and just the variety in maps

[elder tendon]

i like that bladed weapons aren't as sharp as lightsabers

[buoyant oyster]

I will soon buy EA so, I am expecting it to just get better and better overtime honestly

[rotund palm]

even though i think EA is better than demo rn i think this is the most factual sentence ever said here

[elder tendon]

textile armor actually works in the EA version, it basically means nothing in the demo

[sleek gull]

But what about the way the character model moves, and interacts with weapons?

[languid nest]

i mean i don’t really feel a massive difference

[pliant crest]

Too bad plate armor barely does shit at higher levels

[elder tendon]

wat

[pliant crest]

Enemies sometimes can just straight glitch through your plate

You can do the same to them

[sleek gull]

And how many hours did you play the Demo or Playtest for? Just so I understand your point of comparison

[elder tendon]

thats pretty rare and isn't a problem with the armor but the physics

[pliant crest]

Blunt weapons can one tap limbs despite having plate armor

[languid nest]

idk a lot

200+’

[elder tendon]

thats the point of blunt weapons in this game

[pliant crest]

Then why does the same issue not happen with textile armor?

[pliant crest]

To one shot people with 0 need for skill or timing?

[languid nest]

bring a shield or get better at blocking

[elder tendon]

it works exactly the same way in the demo

[rotund palm]

oh my god bro you need to have perfect timing to use a hafted

which weapon do you use the most

[sleek gull]

And you don't experience the difference in arm rigidity, or weapons phasing through your own character model, or the odd way the character poses and moves when using thrust mode?

[pliant crest]

I mean, sure, but not really

[elder tendon]

wat

[languid nest]

it’s a bit different yeah but i feel like a big contributor is people making shit weapons lol

[pliant crest]

Headshots, yeah, but you can’t break both legs with one swing on a poleaxe

[languid nest]

i mean it will be improved anyways

i have faith in the devs

[elder tendon]

you can absolutely break limbs in one shot in the demo

[pliant crest]

I can break both bro’s legs with one blunt swing despite full plate armor. Couldn’t do that in demo.

[pliant crest]

I never broke both legs from under a full plate knight with one half swing in demo.

[languid nest]

literally just decrease the damage sliders

the game has those for a reason you know

[rotund palm]

worse, you couldnt even pick up weapons if your hands were a tad bit damaged in the demo, EA fixed that

[languid nest]

if you don’t like how damage is, change it yourself lol

[steady dew]

what does z do?

[pliant crest]

Damage sliders are set the same as ea. but that still doesn’t even fix the issue

[languid nest]

autolock

[elder tendon]

idk man it sounds like you encountered something one time and then wrote off the rest of the game based on one single experience

[pliant crest]

Damn, sorry I expect devs to work on their game

[steady dew]

thank you

[languid nest]

it’s a feature they added to the game

[sleek gull]

No matter how you make a weapon, the wrists and arms will twist in unnatural ways when the sword gets stuck, or loses its pathing from quick mouse movement inputs. As well, the weapon phasing through your character isn't related to how it was made. And as well the thrust mode not thrusting with single handed weapons applies across the board.

[languid nest]

for that reason

[languid nest]

that’s fair. like i said there are issues.

[elder tendon]

a lot of this can be avoided by not swinging so fast, less is more especially with heavier weapons

but yeah its definitely annoying

[rotund palm]

weapon passing through your character is a temporary fix to a fixable problem the game currently has rn

[pliant crest]

Mainly the wrists

[languid nest]

i literally use like a max weight small as possible pollaxe all the time and can say this is true

[sleek gull]

The Worst Advice Of All Time.

I adore that people thing this solves it, but it 100% does not. I have shown people on stream that these issues happen even if I move as slowly a humanly possible.

[pliant crest]

Because your character has never wanked his Willie in his life.

[languid nest]

slow, smooth movements still work

[pliant crest]

This

[sleek gull]

That is a fact. But an issue that didn't exist in the Demo, and didn't require this work around.

[pliant crest]

Poleaxes can also just decide they no longer work

Like they become a static object in your fuckin hand

[rotund palm]

i just avoid heavy weapons or make them as heavy as possible without encountering that

[elder tendon]

yeah it's why it's called early access

its being worked on

[pliant crest]

I’ve had to entirely stop using poleaxes because how consistently it happens.

[pliant crest]

Shouldn’t be a downgrade from the free version tho

[elder tendon]

you guys are acting like nothing is going to improve

[languid nest]

i think game is fine for early access and is an upgrade and not a downgrade

[elder tendon]

imo it is a vast improvement over the free version

so

agree to disagree ig

[tiny pecan]

I guess this the first EA to many people

[languid nest]

yah

[pliant crest]

The weapon handling 100% is a downgrade

[tiny pecan]

I remember sending 12€ via PayPal to the original creator of M&B, some Turkish guy

[rotund palm]

i dont think its enough of an issue to be mentioned among the wrist twists and thrust stance

[sleek gull]

I'm not counted in "guys" because I know it will improve.

I'm anxiously waiting for it, but remaining patient. I just like to jump in when things being said don't make sense, are inaccurate, or is hyperbole.

[pliant crest]

Weapon handling had almost none of the issues in demo that is had in EA

[elder tendon]

ok

you're gonna have a bad time in this discord then

[rotund palm]

paypals banned here how did you even do that

[sleek gull]

The low priority is why I didn't mention the unsheathing issue, but that is a problem for an incredibly small number of players who actually do sheath quick draws.

[sleek gull]

I been here since 2024, I am resilient lol.

[rotund palm]

WHAT

[elder tendon]

the wrist thing is annoying but it can be almost entirely mitigated once your character is at max strength and you don't try to use weapons with maxed out size/mass.

it doesn't happen much with the weapons i use, only occasionally.

[sleek gull]

A biut unique again, but you cannot make your free mode character. And after progression is over, Free mode is all that is left for me.

[elder tendon]

why not just keep playing progression mode

[rotund palm]

YES

THIS

bro

[elder tendon]

i really don't see the point in free mode in the EA version which is a problem

[rotund palm]

i hate freeplay in its current state

[elder tendon]

the freeplay mode should be the gamemode from the demo

[sleek gull]

I like to play lower ranks. Commoner and Militia. It gets annoying to rest 10 times to get a fight I want in the progression list.

[rotund palm]

this game has the best armor and weapon customisation ive seen

it NEEDS to have some kind of sandbox mode

itd be an opportunity for the devs to show off on their assets

[elder tendon]

sandbox mode?

[sleek gull]

stuff like this

[rotund palm]

they swung and missed when they didnt implement sandbox

[rotund palm]

holy

[rotund palm]

i mean

freeplay is kind of sandbox

because you get to pick enemies and battles

[elder tendon]

you do that in progression too

[rotund palm]

but the loadout customisation is stuck at like the mid tier

[sleek gull]

Just needs mode customization is all. There is a ton of feedback asking for it, so i'm confident it will come eventually.

[rotund palm]

but not battles and the trade system is randomised

[elder tendon]

anything you insure in progression will appear in the free mode also

[small glen]

Spin players are still struggling

[rotund palm]

i would be so happy if they just had a way to have access to EVERY item and their variants

[rotund palm]

spin kick?

[elder tendon]

yeah, maybe they will add it

[rotund palm]

hopefully

but they could have added it before EA

[sleek gull]

True, but lowkey, I don't expect that they will have any focus on making sure people can do things like that. It may end up something that can be done, but not by design lol

[rotund palm]

so thats a blunder

[elder tendon]

this is a weird take lol

they could have done a lot of things

[rotund palm]

not really

because

they had to pick preset armor

for the freeplay customisation

they could have just added every armor and their variants

its subjective instead of additive

[elder tendon]

they do not necessarily have the same priorities as you

[rotund palm]

im scared of these people bro

i hope when multiplayer comes out they add skill based matchmaking

[elder tendon]

IF multiplayer comes out

that's a big if

[rotund palm]

they can handle it

they can definitely FUND it

no doubt

[elder tendon]

it's not really that simple lol

[small glen]

That's me home dawg 🔥

[tidal sapphire]

it would be very hard to do

[rotund palm]

trust me its not as hard as people think

[elder tendon]

[rotund palm]

they already have crossplay working

[rotund palm]

if we fight in the future im forfeiting

[dusky zephyr]

If there a way to get like... a regular dagger and not just the Rondel dagger?

[rotund palm]

no way im winning THAT

[elder tendon]

you mean splitscreen?

[tawdry dirge]

I js died and I now have kill 289 souls that want revenge

[rotund palm]

make a small messer

[rotund palm]

yeah my bad

not crossplay

[elder tendon]

yeah the reason splitscreen works is because it's all running on the same machine

it doesn't have to interpolate physics over a network

[sharp thunder]

130 hours in the demo and 200 in ea i prefer ea combat

[elder tendon]

most games don't do this even with simple ragdolls

[rotund palm]

you spawn in detroit instead of the abyss LMAO

[tawdry dirge]

literally

js had to fight off like 5 fully armored knights

[rotund palm]

yeah it doesnt have to with multiplayer either

[sharp thunder]

but i do also have lukes autoparry disabler mod installed which makes sword fighting much better

[elder tendon]

...

ok bro, whatever you say, lol.

[rotund palm]

i guess it would be costly but realistically all they have to do is send and recieve datas about where each physics node is

[elder tendon]

"its easy just do it"

[rotund palm]

strawman fallacy

i dont think theyll implement it anytime soon

[elder tendon]

you have no idea what you're talking about

[rotund palm]

i only said they will

[rotund palm]

i am a beginner game dev

i have a good idea

[elder tendon]

sure

[rotund palm]

if you werent argumentative we would be on the same page

trust me

[elder tendon]

lmao

[rotund palm]

i agree on most stuff you say

[sharp thunder]

had to hit a spin move lest i lose my footing

[rotund palm]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-mark-mark-fisch-bach-gif-7656332

[rotund palm]

that movement is insane

[small glen]

Still mad that i got hit

[sharp thunder]

thanks im trying to actually git gud with polearms/axes

more hand-switching mostly

[rotund palm]

I AM NOT PLAYING MULTIPLAYER UNTIL IT HAS SKILLBASED MATCHMAKING

[small glen]

Repost

[devout lion]

seriously i just crashed twice on the same match on my lord tourney

what are they doing

[rotund palm]

you can keep playing after the error

for like

one more round

but i dont recommend it

[devout lion]

i lost a 250 day save because i died the round after and then it crashed

and we're still waiting for these basic fixes from the devs

[small glen]

Repost

[sharp thunder]

had to hit another spin to clear the crowd

hit my ultimate

[rotund palm]

preventing crashes isnt easy but yea it shouldnt crash this much

[small glen]

Repost

[devout lion]

i can understand a fatal error once in a while but to have it be a roll of the dice everytime i kill an enemy is ridiculous

polished and stable my buttcheeks

how did this get through them in testing

[small glen]

High weight sword is goated

[rotund palm]

they js wanted to release something soon

[rotund palm]

mrzacnono literally said he would stop making half sword content until the next major update 1 month before EA

granted this isnt even much of new content but most of the time was spent bettering stuff like control and other stuff

[devout lion]

i understand but when the audience has expectations it's better to meet them and delay the product

[small glen]

Repost, still one of my fav clips

[devout lion]

they are really bad at communication

we don't know what the next update focuses on

all we're told is to wait

when they've been consistently fumbling

[rotund palm]

they should have communicated but i dont think meeting the audiences expectations was enough

they didnt even add the pit mode lmfao

it was in the trailer

[devout lion]

yeah it was completely misleading

they didn't communicate that it wasn't added in this version

[small glen]

Demo clip, I reposted this a bunch

[rotund palm]

they need to make more of small updates so the playerbase knows theyre working on SOMETHING

[devout lion]

im fine with sneak peeks tbh

[rotund palm]

also then itd be way easier to get feedback on everything

[devout lion]

they used to have sneak peeks (although most of them were completely unhelpful/filler items)

[rotund palm]

instead of tirelessly working and spending your blood sweat and tears into a release that people hate the moment it comes out

[devout lion]

if i could get an idea what the update would be then it'd be better

[devout lion]

to be fair that's completely their fault for missing the mark

#1465774955009540257 tells them everything they need

like all the major issues have been constantly complained about

[rotund palm]

the problem was that the feedbacks didnt come until AFTER the update

[devout lion]

there now is enough time for EA feedback to sizzle and cook, so now I think the feedback is important

[devout lion]

yes

[elder tendon]

all you have to do is wait for the patch

[devout lion]

but i'd rather flame the developers for choosing the way they handled EA

we got floppy wrists, horrible balancing etc

[rotund palm]

yeah and as long as the updates come out one at a time itll be fine

[wanton zinc]

is there any way to play split screen on keyboard and mouse

[elder tendon]

this is how the overwhelming majority of game dev works

[devout lion]

i cant be certain about it if it is extremely vague

[rotund palm]

on one computer?

[wanton zinc]

? via remote play

[rotund palm]

you already play with keyboard and mouse

[elder tendon]

its only been a little over a month since the last patch

and they said the next patch is going to be quite large

[devout lion]

game developers should at least have some innate QA

[elder tendon]

this is a very small indie game dev studio

the game is still very playable

[small glen]

Ima just say

We wouldn't be nearly as bad

Correction

[elder tendon]

this is why they warn people about buying early access games

[small glen]

Maf

[devout lion]

i understand but they had the demo, and then they somehow went downhill

[small glen]

Mad

If the devs didn't delay

Because tf was that delay for

[elder tendon]

well thats just like, your opinion, man.

[devout lion]

no one would be as angry if the EA was just an improved demo

[devout lion]

yes

[elder tendon]

not everyone agrees it went downhill.

[small glen]

"We delayed the game to watch the paint in our office dry!" - real reason behind the delay

[devout lion]

not everyone but there's a lot of people who are upset about the differences to demo and EA which many consider to make EA a downgrade in general

[rotund palm]

my already fair respect for the devs would increase if some of the devs occasionally visited these text channels (i wont undermine the stress of being blasted by all this feedback)

[elder tendon]

yeah game devs are really out here delaying games for no reason

[thin gyro]

This game is genuine utter dogwank compared to the demo

[small glen]

Ivan lurks

Galaxy is fairly active in chat

[devout lion]

i can sympathize with these devs because ive been there myself but its still unexcusable with what they're doing

[thin gyro]

I spawn into a buhurt with no teammates

[elder tendon]

this is the same thing everyone says about every game these days

[rotund palm]

oh damn

[elder tendon]

its kinda wild

[devout lion]

galaxy does vfx right he doesn't really have control over the technical aspects of the physics

[thin gyro]

I can't grab 2 handed weapons with 2 hands half the time

[devout lion]

or combat

[small glen]

He does the gore and blood

[devout lion]

or mechanics

[small glen]

Ivan does the modeling

Frank does the combat and balance

[rotund palm]

you need to buy mercenaries

[rotund palm]

"hire muscle" when talking to the fencer

[thin gyro]

of course I do

[devout lion]

yeah he's been the only dev whose been active about his work sometimes, even then i saw some of his messages and his response to some feedback looks quite dismissive

[wanton zinc]

no

[rapid pond]

Almost all of those issues seems to be caused by the improved willie bp, im guessing the bigger of the update is fixing just that

[wanton zinc]

only one of us can play with keyboard and mosue

[small glen]

I don't remember what Miłek does..

[devout lion]

hopefully

[small glen]

I think he does weapons?

Like weapon modeling? Not sure

[rotund palm]

too heavy?

[small glen]

Oh wait I think he does sfx

Or smthing

[rotund palm]

then idk

[rapid pond]

How much kg ?

[rotund palm]

r u playing remoteplay thru steam

[thin gyro]

like 1 i don't know its a sythe

[rapid pond]

Yep, and thats the only way rn, one gets kbm other gets controller

[rapid pond]

How much kg is your willie

[thin gyro]

Do mercs only have to be paid once?

[small glen]

Ivan does all armory, and uh the goat Malware does music

[raven talon]

Something I'm noticing the more I play, it feels like the AI just isn't nearly as active as the demo

is that just me or does anyone else feel that way?

like I'm going through my old clips and it feels sooo different

[rapid pond]

There are some downgrades in the ai imp, but again, they will change as time goes on tbh

Im hoping we get a per tier "skill level"

[rotund palm]

how did you find a scythe

[rapid pond]

You can find it in cellar and alley

[rotund palm]

thats rough bro

[thin gyro]

On the wall in a cellar retribution

[rapid pond]

Thats true as well

[rotund palm]

no

sadly

you have to keep paying them

[rapid pond]

Per day

[rotund palm]

i personally just dont mess with mercenaries

you cant customise them

[raven talon]

that's kinda what I was thinking, but I really do miss the aggression right now, the AI feels so passive in comparison and it's kinda boring

[wanton zinc]

thats at the very least awful

[rapid pond]

You can also pay them whenever you want for them to not show the prompt

[wanton zinc]

why?

[rotund palm]

throughout my playing i NEVER ONCE gotten a mercenary

[wanton zinc]

is there any good way to play split scren?

[rapid pond]

One with kbm one with controller is how most split screen capable games work on steam

We cannot use 2 controller right now, requires a bunch more works from the devs

[elder tendon]

same

i keep forgetting that even exists

[thin gyro]

Is there any way to actually control the arrows when loading a crossbow or do I just have to hope it goes in

[rapid pond]

I usually use mercs for tourneys

[wanton zinc]

? my friend was playing on controller and i was and it worked

i just wish to play on kbm

as well as my friend

[rotund palm]

SEE WE AGREE ON SOME STUFF

[rapid pond]

You can if he uses kbm

[eternal scaffold]

yeah REAL

[rotund palm]

i guess its different controllers

wait

do you mean ur playing on kbm

[wanton zinc]

? we can play if both of us play on controllers but that sucks because controllers suck

both of us want to play on kbm

[rapid pond]

Not possible currently, on most steam geames as well

[wanton zinc]

also why is there no enemy locking

[grave pecan]

not possible

[rapid pond]

Thats just a bug :F

[grave pecan]

yeah its bugged as hell

alot of keys missing too

[wanton zinc]

bruh

[rapid pond]

Pvp is completely new in hs its logical its a buggy mess

[grave pecan]

also ur slow motion key is binded to one of the grabo nes

[rapid pond]

Even the pvp focused build had issues

[rotund palm]

i cant believe how they managed to make pvp that bad to not have enemy locking

[rapid pond]

Its an entirely new concept in hs

It wasent even planned at first

[grave pecan]

what do you mean pvp focused build

[rotund palm]

if the player character follows the camera JUST ADD A NODE TO THE OTHER PLAYERS POSITION THAT HAS THE MAIN PLAYERS CAMERA POINT TO IT

[grave pecan]

lock on isnt a new concept

[eternal scaffold]

has lock on been fixed for splitscreen?

[rotund palm]

camera locking ist

yeah exactly what dev said

[rapid pond]

During gamescom thingy if i recall, they add a pvp hosted event

[rapid pond]

In pvp it is

[eternal scaffold]

we need jousting with horses

[rapid pond]

2 players is something hs isnt planned to even do

[eternal scaffold]

that will elevate the game

[rotund palm]

horses would be extremely hard to do currently bro

[rapid pond]

Y'all lucky we even got any pvp features

[rotund palm]

wait a year or two

[rotund palm]

ur right but its like making a cake and not adding anything sweet to it

im glad to have a cake but it tastes BLAND

[naive granite]

there havent been any updates for 2 months

and they dont care about split screen so doubt they will ever touch it

[grave pecan]

the thing is

they were having fun

[rapid pond]

Theres a big warning telling you its unfinished, its definitely gonna change in the futur, its a fun tweak rn

[grave pecan]

so i dont think it was broken like it is currently

[raven talon]

besides discord do they have any comm channels for progress updates?

[rotund palm]

im assuming camera locking is easy to implement which it is if its just a node for the enemy that the players camera follows with smoothing

[grave pecan]

#work-in-progress

[rapid pond]

It seemed to lack the lock on as well, im having fun too

[grave pecan]

they're radio silent so

[rotund palm]

if they managed to make THAT complicated then i have lost faith

[grave pecan]

all we know is that next update will be big and will have content

[naive granite]

they dont even send anything in there

[rapid pond]

They dont have interesting things to show yet

[grave pecan]

that still part of progress

[naive granite]

until they fix this abomination of an optimization this game is not worth playing

[rotund palm]

i just dont see the point of it in the main game if its unplayable

[grave pecan]

probaly

[rapid pond]

Im guessing its all bug fixes for now

[rotund palm]

but ig its a proof of concept

[grave pecan]

we are probaly gonna go back to how they updated the demo

[rapid pond]

You answered yourself

[raven talon]

I hope so, 2 months is a long time for silence and I'm hoping for a nice ass update soon. Scrap Mechanic has made me permanently sour on devs who think they don't need to report back

[grave pecan]

updates took long but big update

[rotund palm]

i meant proof of concept literally

[elder tendon]

not really, there's a lot of EA games that have much longer update gaps

[rotund palm]

as in its proof that theyre working on multiplayer

[rapid pond]

Well yea ? Its early acess for a reason, they are working on local pvp, so what we currently have is a test

[elder tendon]

they were putting out bugfixes almost every other day when EA first dropped, but they've slowed down now because the scope of the updates are getting much larger

[grave pecan]

i just checked the gamescom

[raven talon]

usually there's comms though, as far as I know there hasn't been for a while

[grave pecan]

no lock on?????

[rapid pond]

Ence proof of concept, like the gamescom event

[rotund palm]

im finally seeing another scrap mechanic player after years

[elder tendon]

in my experience most game devs aren't that communicative at all

this is pretty normal to me

[raven talon]

and devs that go a long time and no comms make me very, very unhappy

[rotund palm]

if i ever actually fully released my game i would literally spend hours talking in its social chats

[rapid pond]

Theres no way to tell. The main difference is them being in the lord's tourney map

[rotund palm]

i dont get devs who dont like talking abt their games

[raven talon]

bro the frustration of wasted potential 😭

[eternal scaffold]

atp just play space engineers

[rotund palm]

hows that like

[rotund palm]

holy hell

[rapid pond]

Less time spent on gamedev tbh

Exibit A : danidev

[eternal scaffold]

addicted you hop on for 20 mins and play for like 3 hours

[elder tendon]

its because the internet is full of incredibly toxic and entitled people who will fling abuse at you at all hours of the day

[eternal scaffold]

i only have about twenty

[raven talon]

I've been a KSH supporter since literally day 1, the boys know me

[rotund palm]

id love to argue with them

lol

unless if theyre attacking me or something

ive never seen something like that with other communities though

[elder tendon]

👀

[rotund palm]

idk what you mean

[tiny pecan]

dunno where "here" is, but it was several decades ago

[rotund palm]

ik danidev though

[rotund palm]

im turkish

several decades ago checks out

[tiny pecan]

2008

[pale stone]

this game crashing so bad lol anyone else?

good frames 100+ but crashin

[rapid pond]

Interacting with the community just sent him to the worst places

So he stopped
Entirely

[eternal scaffold]

who?

[rapid pond]

Danidev

He didn't stop

[raven talon]

legit probably one of the most enjoyable space games, there's endless experiments and stupid things to do with friends. Even just building cool ship ideas in creative can last you weeks on a single project

[rapid pond]

He just stopped interacting

But lets chill

Game is in an ea state

[raven talon]

mcwonderbeast is typing
Ayo my man

[rapid pond]

Yall please give constructive criticism

[eternal scaffold]

community isnt even that bad. We are just getting a little on edge about the lack of updates

[rapid pond]

And mcwonder i'll let you smoke us

[grave pecan]

danidev?

isnt it the same guy who made crab game

man i wish he updated it

[rapid pond]

Man thats debatable

But this aside

[elder tendon]

yeah

[rotund palm]

community managers here

[elder tendon]

very

[little verge]

If you are not prepared to deal with the intensity of the public it can take a serious toll.

Steam discussions also have a tendency to become very toxic, allot of devs make the mistake of living in those discussion boards.

[rotund palm]

hmm

how realistic is it

[naive granite]

all the bugs and crashes transferred from demo,ea has worse performance,worse free mode,worse ai and worse character control overall

[rapid pond]

And i honestly wonder how the team as been holding up. I genuially hope they all are good

[elder tendon]

look at the helldivers 2 community, that's one of my favorite games and i just have to ignore the community as much as possible due to how wildly over the top the toxicity is

[tiny pecan]

EA also has a lot of more mechanics demo didn't had

[naive granite]

stabbing is completely unusable on %80 of the weapons

[naive granite]

like what?

[rotund palm]

and they larp too

[tiny pecan]

weight system, rank system, weapon creation, mercenaries, progression

[raven talon]

It leans more arcade, there's a lot of limitations and the idea of "endgame" isn't all that strong, but you get enough tools to enjoy yourself and mods add an absolute toooon of whatever you want

[elder tendon]

i dont really care about the larp, thats usually harmless

[naive granite]

we have better wrestling better kicking better stabbing better weapon control in demo

[rotund palm]

i heard hes the dev behind megabonk

[naive granite]

we have progression in demo

weight system rank system weapon creation is just empty filler content

[rotund palm]

i guess

[tiny pecan]

ok, then play demo

[naive granite]

what it matters is the main gameplay

[naive granite]

check my profile

[tiny pecan]

no

I won't

[naive granite]

and what kind of weak argument is that

[rotund palm]

and how does the movement work.............

[tiny pecan]

what's even your argument

[rapid pond]

Mercs

Maps

Tourneys

Ability to use any gear in any tier

Strenght

[naive granite]

''if you dont like it dont play it''

lmao

[tiny pecan]

yes

[elder tendon]

ive been playing tf out of megabonk lately

i got all the skins for calcium today

[naive granite]

its criticism

[rotund palm]

weight system is my favourite thing in this game

[tiny pecan]

it's barely criticism, it's just whinning

[rapid pond]

1 handed handeling as well

[elder tendon]

tbh i couldn't care less about the weird wrestling stuff people were doing

[tiny pecan]

yes, introducing new mechanics will make a less developed version less enjoyable

so what

that's the nature of development

[elder tendon]

a lot of that stuff was very silly looking

[rotund palm]

sadly i havent checked it out recently

[naive granite]

wrestling is part of combat

[rotund palm]

YEA

[naive granite]

thats what people were doing

irl

when fighting

[elder tendon]

idk i see people basically playing this game like its an mma game and i just don't get that

[tiny pecan]

you guys want a game to be developed and have consistent perfect gameplay at all times while also have constant updates all the time

it's completely unrealistic

for games to develop they have to try different avenues and lines of development

sometimes you won't like some of those changes

big deal

[rotund palm]

its utopian and idealistic

[raven talon]

Unfortunately probably one of the weakest points. Speed limit of 100m/s due to stability but it's super easy to mod that to whatever you want (multiplayer is surprisingly fine up to around 1000m/s, single player doesn't have much bugs until like 3-5k m/s). You have a jetpack for yourself and ships have 3 types of thrusters with fuel requirements. Thrust doesn't take into account center of mass BUT there's a mod for that. There's also "subgrids", you can attach parts with dynamic pieces (hinges, rotors, pistons) like scrap mechanic but relatively more stable

[elder tendon]

same thing

[rotund palm]

hmm

no orbital mechanics?

ill check this game out

[raven talon]

not out of the box, but mods easily add them

[rotund palm]

BOUGHT.

[naive granite]

adding a weight system is cool but if the kicking wrestling is pointless overall what benefit do you get from being strong

[raven talon]

KSH is VERY supportive of the modding community

[elder tendon]

wdym about kicking being useless

[naive granite]

wrestling is far more worse than demo

[rotund palm]

not actually lol im dirt poor but yea im getting this game

[elder tendon]

i knocked a guy out with a single kick earlier unless you mean something else

[tiny pecan]

give them time to balance the weight system

[naive granite]

how will you benefit from being tall and muscular if you are not punching kicking or grappling

[tiny pecan]

a whole new rpg mechanic got added and needs balancing

[naive granite]

stabbing doesnt even work on %80 of the weapons currently,your weapon just goes up

[rotund palm]

better weapon handling and weapons that weigh more

[raven talon]

Go check out the content creator Splitsie, he's well respected and has a lot of content to get a feel for the game

[rotund palm]

i think thats intentional but yea they should add the option to change stances

[tiny pecan]

yeah, because they are reworking the Alt key

to be a "different stance" system

[naive granite]

you were able to full rotate your camera to kick more precisely and kick with more strength,now you just fall down if you try to do anny of those

[rotund palm]

man tysm

i will

[tiny pecan]

I've seen some of the karate shit people were doing in the demo and that shit looks atrocious

[rotund palm]

in brawl it works

[tiny pecan]

I rather have a coherent close combat system that measures your weight

[rotund palm]

if you mean with armor and weapons then i dont think it would

[naive granite]

adding a whole new rpg mechanic is cool but if actual combat fidelity movement weapon control takes a hit in process to make room for that then its a problem

[elder tendon]

yeah like the jumping spin kicks and stuff were pretty silly

[rotund palm]

i dont think they played with the turn speed when unarmed but they did for some weapons

[elder tendon]

ideally people would be able to do both since its a singleplayer game and people being able to do that doesn't affect me at all

[nocturne stratus]

balls

[tiny pecan]

it's part of development

[naive granite]

its not even slightly close to demo

[tiny pecan]

if some of the gameplay becoming less usable due to new development being done is a big issue for you, I recommend leaving the game for a while and come back in several updates

[rotund palm]

THATS FOR BALANCING

[tiny pecan]

I've done that several times with other EAs

sometimes shit gets changed and I don't like those changes

so I just leave the game for a while

[elder tendon]

the demo was way too easy imo

[naive granite]

jumping is not a feature in the demo those were done with mods and thats what people were doing by the way there are different martial arts for purely on kicking,those are real

[tiny pecan]

I don't think a medieval fighting game should have flying kicks

[raven talon]

the demo was easier and harder in different ways, I think the lack of AI aggression still ruins EA for me by comparison though

[elder tendon]

i know that martial arts exist bro

[naive granite]

if the foundation gets worse for rpg mechanics thats not development is it

[tiny pecan]

yes, it is

I just don't think you have a coherent or reasonable concept of development of a game

I think you want the game to be exactly how you want it, at instant speed

[elder tendon]

its entirely subjective that the foundation is even worse to begin with

[rotund palm]

i think it should but it should be very hard to do because it wasnt a common practice back then

[naive granite]

sure things break in dev but usually you dont release a paid game when the core gameplay is worse than its demo

[tiny pecan]

you clearly haven't been around many EAs then

[tiny pecan]

to each their own, I prefer more weapons, scenarios and a coherent system of progression over flying kicks

[elder tendon]

i can't go back to the demo, i tried it the other day and it just feels hollow

[hazy junco]

Guys, this is Daft Punk???

[naive granite]

by that logic they could remove all the weapons and fighting and turn it into a farming sim its still development. change doesnt automatically mean improvementt

[tiny pecan]

and if my grandpa had wheels he would be a bycicle

like... what are we talking about here

[elder tendon]

Daft Ragamuffin

[naive granite]

im not asking for flying kicks those were never a thing im asking for basic physics to work as well as they did in the demo

you guys acting like i want a superhero game

[eternal scaffold]

im the opposite it just pains me to play EA, id rather play demo

[tiny pecan]

give it time

[raven talon]

Oh @tender quest I loved watching your greatsword clobbering clips in the demo, have you gotten used to the new combat enough to have some fancy new clips I can see? 😍

[tiny pecan]

or don't

[naive granite]

im talking about basic body control which is wrestling grappling kicking

[eternal scaffold]

somewhat there are things i dislike and like

[naive granite]

me too

[elder tendon]

i think the weapons generally feel way better, i do miss the randomized loadout tiers, that's the only thing i want back.

[tiny pecan]

the reason the gameplay feels off compared to the demo is explained with the weight system getting implemented

[tender quest]

😔

[eternal scaffold]

it feels off because willies fall over way to easy

they dont fall over enough if the demo.

[raven talon]

damn bro I need that crack

so fun to watch

[elder tendon]

i don't think EA even has greatswords

[eternal scaffold]

and the wrists feel bad AI is just so passive in eA

[naive granite]

if everyone like you says its a part of dev and ignores that its a downgrade the game will stay like this

[elder tendon]

even scaling up a longsword still doesn't quite feel like a greatsword

[naive granite]

wild way to dodge the point

[naive granite]

another example of it being a downgrade

[elder tendon]

change doesn't always mean its bad either

[rotund palm]

ur completely right but its not a downgrade

[raven talon]

Idk I made two greatswords so far, a nice beatdown stick and a super long and thin juggular-nabber. Not quite the same but they feel great

[naive granite]

its not just an opinion though, @eternal scaffold is right the ai is more passive and the wrist physics are clunkier

[elder tendon]

it is just an opinion actually

[naive granite]

when you move from reactive and agressive ai from demo to something like this in ea thats the definition of a downgrade

[elder tendon]

it's way easier to get killed in the EA version than in the demo

[naive granite]

ea is built on the foundation the demo created

[raven talon]

I think wrists do need tightened up, but only by like 20 or 30%. You can fix most of the issue by just balancing your weapon better and if you tighten it up too much, you start to lose the ability to flex the weapon's momentum for some cool strikes

[naive granite]

early access is for building on top of what works not downgrading it

[rotund palm]

theyre all called long swords

[elder tendon]

lowering mouse sensitivity/not swinging crazy fast also helps the weapon from flying out of your hand

[rotund palm]

i think a greatsword would have a far longer handle

[naive granite]

you dont throw away refined physics and ai just because you are adding new gameplay elements

[elder tendon]

the biggest longsword in the game still doesn't compare to the greatswords in the demo

they'll probably add them at some point tho

[naive granite]

the refined demo is free the unfinished ea is a paid product

[elder tendon]

yeah and there were clear warnings not to buy it unless you accept the fact that game is in a rough and unfinished state

[raven talon]

if you tighten up wrists TOO much, you stop being able to do neat things like

[elder tendon]

the demo had god awful physics too until they patched them. the wrists are likely a symptom of the muscle system that will undoubtedly get improved. nobody wants that to stay and it won't.

[naive granite]

players dont care if it was a rework or copy paste they care if its fun

[elder tendon]

you can play the demo until the EA version gets patched also.

[naive granite]

the fact that people are telling me to go back to free demo because its better than the paid one says everything 😂

[rotund palm]

holy hell

[naive granite]

support is a promise for the future

[elder tendon]

lmao

[naive granite]

i am talking about the actual state of the game right now

''everything will get better'' doesnt change anything

[elder tendon]

yeah your complaints have been said by a thousand other people a thousand other times, it takes times

[naive granite]

the game right now is a mess

[elder tendon]

and this is why the devs don't communicate here more

[naive granite]

and i will keep going until they fix it

[elder tendon]

case and point, right here

[naive granite]

this is completely false btw

they were never communicating properly

[rotund palm]

who peed in the cellar

[elder tendon]

they communicate as much as any other professional game dev does

honestly they probably communicate more than most devs do

[rotund palm]

WHAT

you can do both

[naive granite]

this is complete radio silence btw

[elder tendon]

its been a month

[sharp thunder]

You act like the devs arent acutely aware of every issue you bring up, they literally said in #announcements that they plan to work on and fix almost every issue youve brought up

[elder tendon]

relax bro

[naive granite]

im not the reason they dont communicate im just one of the people not pretending that ea is an improvement

[elder tendon]

people acting like going a month without a patch is the end of the world

[raven talon]

tbh the biggest thing I want right now is for beaks and lucerns to be able to pierce armor with enough force. I made a war pick that feels so impotent. Feels better to pommel strike than use the head

[elder tendon]

they can actually

[rotund palm]

IVE MADE THAT EXACT AXEHEAD BEFORE

[elder tendon]

i've done it many times

[naive granite]

there is a difference between posting and actually addressing the mechanics

[raven talon]

Damn, maybe I need to rebalance it. It just slaps them without even doing concussive damage

[naive granite]

a post in announcements doesnt fix the game

[rotund palm]

and yea i think so too

[elder tendon]

i have screenshots

let me grab some

[naive granite]

im not saying its the end of the world im saying the current build is a downgrade

[naive granite]

two days or a month the combat still feels hollow compared to demo

[elder tendon]

there, one that went straight through a breastplate

[elder tendon]

i feel the exact opposite of that personally

yeah exactly

some people just want to crusade about something

[rotund palm]

https://tenor.com/view/sonion-gif-1722807189204709072

[raven talon]

I need to do more testing, I'm still at <20 hours in the EA

[naive granite]

i want them to communicate solutions instead of post status updates

[raven talon]

weapon crafting is so fun

[naive granite]

saying we plan to fix it doesnt change the fact that the current combat feels worse than demo

youre acting like being aware of the problem is the same as solving it

[rotund palm]

sadly this motion sickness inducing one is the only thing i could find

[elder tendon]

oh my god bro

you have got to stop

you've said the same thing 100 times now

[rotund palm]

people find amazing gifs and add some whack filter or effect to them

it sucks

[naive granite]

ill stop when the combat isnt a downgrade

[elder tendon]

shitting up the discord isn't going to help anything

literal child behavior

i'm going to cry until my mom brings me my chocolate milk!!!

[naive granite]

do you expect me to go to the devs house and talk to them about this

[elder tendon]

#1465774955009540257

post about it and shut up lol

[naive granite]

the only one acting likek a child is the person throwing a tantrum because i have a different opinion on the game

[elder tendon]

lmao

"i know you are but what am i" type shit

that's amazing

[naive granite]

calling feedback that they havent adressed over in months is a way to avoid

[soft osprey]

Alright fellas let’s all be nice.

[elder tendon]

its been 46 days btw

and they did address it

[remote kindle]

what does red mean

[rotund palm]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-keery-steve-harrington-steve-meme-steve-harrington-meme-st-gif-9100547204461809542

[elder tendon]

means its an abyss item and costs more to insure

[soft osprey]

Im not sure what else you’d like them to address; they’ve already made people aware they know the issues and are working on them. They could repeat themselves i guess, but that won’t speed up their work

[remote kindle]

is that like bad

[naive granite]

irony of calling someone a child while using sonion gifs and memes is hilarious

[remote kindle]

ah

[rotund palm]

does it???

[raven talon]

Technically yes I think, it has a reduced sell price?

I think

[elder tendon]

yea

[rotund palm]

2 different people

[naive granite]

you guys are move invested in defending the devs honor than the actual game lmao

[rotund palm]

damn i never knew that

i usually sell those items tho

i dont like the red

[soft osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-squirrel-me-calling-my-friends-gif-18345054713742446931

[elder tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner-scrolling-gif-23683039

[naive granite]

the game is still broken after months later of them acknowledging it

[elder tendon]

its weird sometimes, my baron's weapons were originally that orange/red for whatever reason

[soft osprey]

That doesn’t really answer my question

[rotund palm]

do you guys know if the lord tier adds something new

[elder tendon]

wdym

[crude flower]

After 1.5 months of them saying they've been working on it

[elder tendon]

you get the riot matches

[soft osprey]

Updates dont come out overnight and theyre not gonna release an update that doesnt fix what they aim to fix lol

[naive granite]

my question is simple,why pay for rework that is worse than the original foundation?acknowledging a problem isnt the same as solving it

[rotund palm]

oh the baron items come insured

[naive granite]

its been months

[elder tendon]

do they?

[crude flower]

1 month tops

[rotund palm]

but no new weapon customisations right?

[soft osprey]

Again, theyre working on it. If you don’t want to buy it then dont

[rotund palm]

or armor

[crude flower]

Baron armor

[rotund palm]

i think so

[past kestrel]

there are these hotfixes that they did

HEY, at least optimization exists now

[soft osprey]

It’s early access. Don’t expect a perfect and fully finished game

[crude flower]

They fixed the hot

[rotund palm]

i mean in trades

[elder tendon]

also the game is FACTUALLY not broken.

it is very playable.

[soft osprey]

If you don’t want to deal with development pains then dont buy EA

wait for full release

[crude flower]

Halfsword demo still exists and you can play it

[naive granite]

i dont expect a perfect and fully finished game i expect an improvement from the demo

[rotund palm]

alr thanks

[past kestrel]

im playing with 8GB of ram and i can perfectly run EA on lowest graphics

[naive granite]

im repeating the points because the points havent been addressed

[raven talon]

This argument is stupid. The bardiche is the best pole and you can't change my mind

[soft osprey]

It is. If you don’t think it is, then again buy it or refund it

[elder tendon]

thats actually wild

[naive granite]

it is not

[rotund palm]

yeah same my rig is old as hell

[past kestrel]

my pc is like 7 years old

[soft osprey]

It’s been out for a couple months. You need to give them time to fix it. Stop repeating the same shit over and over, my god

[naive granite]

optimization is worse,wrists are janky,ai is just playtest passive ai

[rotund palm]

its second hand and the OS it came with literally kept crashing every 5 mins

[naive granite]

wrestling kicking all of those are far worse

[crude flower]

The amount of people who spew this filth could fill a lububu dubai stuffy

[soft osprey]

Theyre working on it. We get it. You dont like it. Refund and move on or dont buy it and move on. This topic doesnt need to keep going

It’s just a circle jerk now

[rotund palm]

its so cliche to me

like the warstaff

but thats just me

[naive granite]

awareness without improvement for months is exactlyt why people keep bringing it up

[past kestrel]

optimization got better since those hotfixes
wrists are janky because you use a weapon too heavy
A.I. is at least there for the fun of it, they can at least fight and use some basic techniques

[naive granite]

if youre tired of hearing it maybe its because deep down you know the demo is actually better

[elder tendon]

do you think they're just sitting around watching tv

[soft osprey]

Move on please, you made your point crystal clear and im tired of people arguing

[soft osprey]

Im tired of hearing YOU talk about it

[elder tendon]

devs just press the button that fixes it!!!

[past kestrel]

HE IS SAYING SHIT

[naive granite]

you guys are more upset about me talking than you are about the game regressing

[soft osprey]

Youre just repeating yourself over and over.

[crude flower]

We really aren't

This is just another day

[raven talon]

warstaffs are cool but they're technically not great against flesh. The flat axehead was never really meant to be sharp. It's more supposed to be a wedge against armor

[rotund palm]

10 min timeout incoming

[past kestrel]

the game is progressing from this point
more optimizations and bug fixes will come as well as more content

[crude flower]

People like you don't stay around while we stay around talking to people like you all day

[soft osprey]

Please stop engaging with the guy.

This is just ragebait at this point

We all know what his point is

https://tenor.com/view/move-chris-tucker-friday-shoo-keep-moving-gif-4965504

[crude flower]

Cut the point off

[naive granite]

yall completely stopped debating about the game and now just dogpiling on me personally

[rotund palm]

its HOPEFULLY ragebait

[raven talon]

I'm trying to move the conversation onto the cool stuff, like how the Bardiche can borrow my wife

[crude flower]

All you have to say is that something is worse, but i haven't seen a single bit of explaining from your end

It's funny

[soft osprey]

Im gonna ask you one more time to stop. You are upset the game isnt fixed yet. You are upset they aren’t communicating. Got it. You don’t need to repeat yourself a million times. The games been out for a couple months and they’re working on fixing it actively. Your message has been heard clearly. Move on.

[naive granite]

calling feedback ragebait just because youre tired of hearing it

[naive granite]

heard by who

you guys?

[elder tendon]

counterpoint

[soft osprey]

Im tired of hearing YOU specifically saying the same thing over and over again.

Please, move on, for the last time

[raven talon]

aight, sexy af last hit

[naive granite]

not a single dev heard anything i said btw

[raven talon]

you can have this one

[soft osprey]

Your message has been heard

Please

Kindly

Be quiet

[rotund palm]

oh my god

you know ball

[soft osprey]

Hes just going to go back to the other side now, addressing isnt fixing

Because he’s here to ragebait

Not actually discuss

[naive granite]

its funny how you guys only get brave enough to talk trash when theres four of you

[sharp thunder]

https://giphy.com/gifs/22aOFUbCvK3koDoMZc

[naive granite]

only if you could actually defend the game solo

[soft osprey]

Alright well, I tried

[crude flower]

You'd think that, but i think some people actually think what they bring to the table isn't just "this is worse, now fix it"

I think they just can't tell

[rotund palm]

i always giggle when i see this gif

[rotund palm]

how long

[raven talon]

This entire conversation can be summed up with a single videoclip. Bro got a warningshot and still kept swinging wildly

[elder tendon]

hahaha

[soft osprey]

Just to be clear, criticism is always welcome and his points weren’t even invalid. The issue is the arguing over it for 30 minutes

Like I said a dozen times, message has been heard

[small glen]

@soft osprey i made a dip from my heritage, Liptauer. Shit is good ❤️

[raven talon]

Thor'd his nuts

[rotund palm]

what kind of weapon is that even

completely modded????

[raven talon]

I haven't touched mods yet for EA, only the demo. I only like to mess around when I all the fun I could out of the base game

[gilded frigate]

Oh yeah, if the demo is so much better, then why do I love drinking raw milk from cow teets? Checkmate, Marxist scum.

[rotund palm]

thats what i guessed

which weapon did you change so that itd look like a sledgehammer?

[sharp thunder]

omg 😭

is this in your weapon pack?

[raven talon]

God I love giant slicing utensils

serving up willie like easter dinner

[sharp thunder]

ahh didnt even realioze it was demo

no hair gives it away though lol

[past kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

wheres the trashtalk when you're being called out for ragebait

[raven talon]

idk if it's just me, but the lighting also gives it away instantly. Demo just looks undercooked imo

[sharp thunder]

also the feet when you are walking are a bit floatier in the demo

[raven talon]

wait I didn't even realize the Fight splash is gone

[rare hearth]

nobody talking about the fit

and the body

it is tuff but im talking about the demo

[past kestrel]

caught him balding

[rapid kernel]

I NEED HELP

I'm going FUCKING INSANE

[rare hearth]

i miss it

[rapid kernel]

I NEED HELP TO MODIFY THE GAME FILES TO GET maximum muscle, MAXIMUM gold

[rotund palm]

i wish the people in riot had weapons meant for armor

[rapid kernel]

I've had absolute fucking hell trying to do this shit

someone fuckig help me

[raven talon]

I've fallen and I can't get up?

[rotund palm]

a youtube video covers it

[rapid kernel]

YES. also send me a friend request so I don appear as a likely spammer anymore

[rapid kernel]

What video? If you mean the: Go to GameProgress.sav, use UE5 editor, put DOUBLE, 5, IT DOESN'T WORK

hold on

I didn't appear as likely spammer to anyone?

??

[rare hearth]

no

[rapid kernel]

what the fuck

...huh

anyway

[rotund palm]

are you playing demo or EA

[rapid kernel]

the full real game

bro

I've spent the entire day on this fucking shit

[rotund palm]

it should work

[rare hearth]

what kind of dubious activities do u do in dms bro

[raven talon]

Gold and muscle isn't in the demo lol

[rapid kernel]

mass recruitment for my server via friend rquests and DMs

[rotund palm]

uhhhhhhh it should be the uesave editor one

[sharp thunder]

these food models lowk make my mouth water

looks so delicious

[past kestrel]

tf?

[rapid kernel]

YES, progression

YES, I REPLACE the files

[past kestrel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hell-naw-low-iq-unintelligent-mNal0EQtG3jbLtZPuD

[rapid kernel]

I'm not doing it here, chill out

anyway check this shit out

oh

can't send pics

whatever

But bro

[rotund palm]

HIS MAP???

yall are amazing

[raven talon]

I saw a mrzacnono video that went through the process of modding your character, use his resources https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmdNv0rXkrQ

[rare hearth]

bro that's lord tourny

wdym

[rotund palm]

yeah

[sharp thunder]

lords tourney aint dark like that

[rotund palm]

ive watched the video that uses uesave editor

the green website one

[rare hearth]

oh

oh