halfsword-chat-⚔

[night harbor]

its basically this offline only cheat thing

[night harbor]

oh i did it

[dire zephyr]

Woohoooo!

[night harbor]

how do you get da epic purple clothing

[sharp orchid]

https://www.nexusmods.com/halfsword/mods/232

[night harbor]

ooo

also

i might get biting mod

[sharp orchid]

yeah its pretty good from what i heard

[night harbor]

so i can resort to more violence if im losing

just bite their jugular vaines out

[sharp orchid]

i have the half sword enchancer version of it at least, and its fun

[night harbor]

poor willy

[night harbor]

does it need ue4lss

[sharp orchid]

no

[night harbor]

where did you take him

[sharp orchid]

i spawned him way outside of the slums map

[night harbor]

with hs enhancer im guessing

[sharp orchid]

yes

[quaint ingot]

you shoulda made him suffer longer

[sharp orchid]

oh i did, that guy was skinless for a WHILE man

[potent mantle]

man i wish they knew where they were going with this game

[sharp orchid]

0/10 ragebait

[quaint ingot]

you shoulda just left him to suffer without skin

[vague mulch]

ah sweet! man made horrors in halfsword-chat!

[night harbor]

how do you make them skinless

[sharp orchid]

remember that mod link i sent earlier

[tough hollow]

do i have to specically train my legs for them to get bigger or do they scale with the torso muscles

[sharp orchid]

one weapon in there can do that

[sharp orchid]

they should be able to scale

[tough hollow]

ok

[night harbor]

whats the weapon called in it that does that

[sharp orchid]

fist ball of doom and despair

an example of what it can do

[night harbor]

this should be a crime

[tough hollow]

how can i see if a match will be a fist fight or weapon

[night harbor]

justice for the willy victims of fist ball of doom and despair

[night harbor]

it would say brawl if it was a fistfight

[quaint ingot]

no

[tough hollow]

ok

[sharp orchid]

yo idk where you live where murder is legal but it is a crime everywhere else

[fallen glacier]

yall ever done some acrobatic shit like this before

[tough hollow]

anyway to reset my matches

[night harbor]

how tf do you get the cape

snatching it from willys im guessing

right

[fallen glacier]

yes

[quaint ingot]

tabard you can steal from the npcs

[fallen glacier]

lmaaoo that hollering at the end had me dyin

[spiral crow]

How do you guys go beyond 93 kilos

[quaint ingot]

tf did I just watch

[fallen glacier]

you have to be past at least day 30

[sharp orchid]

idk either man

[spiral crow]

I'm night 61 bro

[fallen glacier]

what rank are you

[spiral crow]

Lord

[dire moon]

How tall r u

[quaint ingot]

normally you can’t

[dire moon]

You're not mad height u won't go past certain weight. I think anyway. I'm topped out at 93

[spiral crow]

Idk

[dire moon]

83*

[fallen glacier]

idk then. Keep working out I guess, burn a bunch of stamina. The earliest I hit 94kg was day 30

[quaint ingot]

I went max height and cap at 93

[dire moon]

Idk man but seems plenty heavy to me. I'm crushing it out here with 83 kg

[fallen glacier]

yes you can, it just takes a while. The weight cap (typically) gradually increases beyond at least day 30, the earliest I've seen it reach 94kg

[quaint ingot]

Wait yeah I’m at 94

[warped apex]

it took me a week

but I finally got enough clips for the edit

[dire moon]

Build a heavier weapon. Fight low rank losers til u gain a bit.

Heaviest weapon possible.

[warped apex]

Peak

[dire moon]

That sounds accurate

[warped apex]

Now it just needs more editing

and effects

how is it so far?

[quaint ingot]

yeah I haven’t made any videos on EA yet mainly since I’m mostly just messing around

[dire moon]

What are we watching

[warped apex]

I don't even know

[dire moon]

Ea is so much better tbh

[warped apex]

sacrilege

[quaint ingot]

yeah I’ve just been messing around in EA and haven’t really gotten around to record me playing since kinda takes away my enjoyment

[dire moon]

What is lol

[sharp orchid]

literally every weapon in that mod is a crime

[night harbor]

why are my spaulder and vambraces area marked off

i cant put them on

[dire moon]

Recording can do that yes

[dire moon]

The armor or gambeson u r wearing

[sharp orchid]

are you wearing a jack?

[dire moon]

Need arming doublet

[quaint ingot]

I tend to play games for over 100h just for fun and then possibly start recording me playing

[sharp orchid]

I dont think my game likes it when I commit a war crimew

[dire moon]

That's awesome

[dire moon]

Yea. Purple is pretty criminal

[crimson compass]

except almost all the physics and the enemy AI is worse and the optimization

[quaint ingot]

Yeah I tend to play for fun and not often for clips or to post something

[crimson compass]

Put like 60 hours into EA just to go back to the demo lol

[sharp orchid]

dont you disrespect the baron purple like that

[dire moon]

What do u mean as far as the physics

[dire moon]

Ouch. That's rough af

I don't touch the demo now

[dire moon]

I thought baron wears read

Red*

[sharp orchid]

not in the demo he didnt

[dire moon]

Personally I enjoy the ea more than the demo

[dire moon]

No the ea baron I mean

[crimson compass]

limp wrists, polearms losing grip constantly, x to switch sides has a huge stamina cost, stabbing is literally broken, blunt damage is too strong even when you don't actually get a good hit with the head of the weapon, shields are magic force fields that sap all momentum from swings, longsword handling is completely butchered

[dire moon]

Demo baron was long ago for me. Too many blows to the armet

[sharp orchid]

yeah, the demo baron wears red but i miss the purple baron so much

[dire moon]

How is stab broken

[sharp orchid]

fair enough

[warped apex]

it doesn't work with right hand

[crimson compass]

https://discord.com/channels/1043854763189600337/1475543211303899227

[dire moon]

Indeed

[sharp orchid]

ea has been out for like a month btw

[jovial basalt]

Bro 2nd match of the night and I hit this magnificent clip

[quaint ingot]

I’ll take photos of shit I’m doing but that’s basically what I’ve done the entire time even during the arena demo

[dire moon]

R u doing it wrong?

I will give that my knife stabs are not as good

I can still spear stab fine

[crimson compass]

Goes off to the sides for no reason at all. You literally can't stab straight on like oyu could in the demo whatsoever. Also 1 handed stabbing in the right hand straight up doesn't work

[warped apex]

@dire moon

lol the stabbing is terrible

[crimson compass]

Ah I haven't really tried the spears tbh

[sharp orchid]

js cuz you have a skill issue doesnt mean stabbing is bad

[dire moon]

Take halfsword grip, hold stab alt, release the halfsword into the full grip as u thrust

[fallen glacier]

you can stab one-handed with the right hand it just takes practice. It's not a typical stab stance like it was before

It's meant more for parrying/guard

[quaint ingot]

I don’t mind stabbing since I just go into halfsword and do it that way

[dire moon]

I stab ok? This is weird af

[crimson compass]

Ah yes another brainless 'skill issue' glazer. please crawl back under whatever rock you came from it is plain as day to the rest of us it's busted

[sharp orchid]

its not busted, you just aint good

[dire moon]

Try doing the way I mentioned

Get a spear and hold halfsword. Put the point to enemy by moving mouse to right side of body

[crimson compass]

I haven't tried that but why should I have to do this when the demo alt stabbing literally worked completely fine

[warped apex]

all the players I know with like 1000hrs or tons of playtime aren't the biggest fans of EA lol

[fallen glacier]

man what's with you, always coming around hating and talking shit. You don't have anything better to do?

[dire moon]

That's just how I manage it. Hope it helps

[warped apex]

combat just be wonky currently

I hope they iron it out in the future

[warm void]

.iis it me or is that stick extra long?

Like, it's xxxl

[dire moon]

Instead of saying skill issue I tried to provide a basic tutorial in case u were not trying that way yet.

[sharp orchid]

they for sure will, i'll admit the loose wrists make the game harder but it doesnt mean its unplayable

[sharp orchid]

yeah its modded

[dire moon]

Cuz I want ppl to have fun on this not struggle

[sharp orchid]

https://www.nexusmods.com/halfsword/mods/232 this mod to be exactr

[crimson compass]

We have been over this. People glazing the game are doing a disservice to the devs. I actually want it to get better not stagnate.

[tough hollow]

first kinda hip throw in halfsword EA?

[warm void]

Is that a jarl axe?

[sharp orchid]

kissed that mf goodbye

[sharp orchid]

its a large bardiche

[fallen glacier]

I think a lot of this confusion around the new right handed alt stance and other stuff like what you have to wear to equip certain armor etc would be cleared up if the devs included a tutorial section that goes over and explains all of that stuff

[warm void]

Close enough.

[crimson compass]

I do appreciate that, I'll have to try it whenever the update comes out and i come back to try it out

[dire moon]

Yes

[warped apex]

You can barely move people at low strength, It sucks because playing low rank is my favourite way to enjoy the game

[crimson compass]

For now I have been playign demo and putting up with swords randomly phasing through full plate

[dire moon]

Nice good luck!

[warm void]

I'll try it out once I'm home.

[sharp orchid]

bet

im getting off its like 1 am

[warm void]

Btw, how does the mod work? How do I get the weapon?

[dire moon]

Just get to baron toer and then strip down to beggar gear

[fallen glacier]

Not everyone is glazing the game. I've given a fair amount of criticism and I've seen many other people do so as well. Just because we don't go around hating and complaining all the time =/= glazing. You know it's possible to give criticism without being a di­ck about it right?

[warped apex]

never @dire moon

armor is boring

[sharp orchid]

its a save file, just replace your current save file with that one, and probably make a backup of your own if you dont want to lose it

[quaint ingot]

yeah that way we won’t have to explain it every time or have people refund it out of frustration

[warped apex]

playing as a homeless man is peak compared to tank on tank fights

[crimson compass]

I'm sorry somebody responding "skill issue" to something that is objectively not functioning properly is literally the definition of glazing

[warm void]

Aight.

[crimson compass]

I have also posted multiple polite feedback threads.

[sharp orchid]

not quite sure you know what the definition of glazing is son 😭

[crimson compass]

And bug reports.

[fallen glacier]

it's literally skill issue though. Right handed one handed alt isn't a typical stab stance anymore, it's more for guard/parrying. You can still stab with it though, it just takes practice.

[dire moon]

It's a guard???

Oh fuss that's cool I'm gonna try it tonight t

[crimson compass]

#1474111196285370590 message

[fallen glacier]

yeah I'll send a vid in a minute to show what I'm talking about

[crimson compass]

Does that look like a stab to you bossman?

[warped apex]

atleast close up pommel strikes still work properly

[fallen glacier]

Have you practiced stabbing at all with alt right hand, bossman?

[crimson compass]

Sure you CAN stab with it, but you can also stab without the stab key by them just walking into you lol

[warped apex]

do you know how hard these are now compared to the demo with the noodle wrists

[quaint ingot]

I like using it as more momentum for clubbing

[sharp orchid]

you could always do that tho, whats your point?

[quaint ingot]

or you could swap hands

[warped apex]

it took a decent amount of clips for the edit

[crimson compass]

My point is that just because you can sometimes get a stab out of it doesn't make it a suitable replacement for right handed stabbing that we had in the demo.

[quaint ingot]

holy

[dire moon]

I would like to see this.

Thank u

[warped apex]

and still not done it

[sharp orchid]

just wait for the patch atp. the devs are well aware of all the fighting issues and my guess is that it will be adressed in the next patch

[crimson compass]

Still objectively lacking utility compared to the demo. Sometimes I want to stab with my right hand instead of my left depending on the position oo me and the enemy. In demo I was able to grapple and then stab somebody with a dagger or the rondel in either hand, depending on which side had an open spot to stab at.

[crimson compass]

That's what I'm doin. Been playing the demo until they fix some of this stuff.

[jovial basalt]

sidestep diagonal swing to this dudes shoulder

[warped apex]

we still move too fast, and everything is overly sensitive unfortunately

not to mention with the laughy taffy wrists

it's not too peak

[sharp orchid]

id also like to mention that if your mass is high enough, literally every problem youve mentioned thus far, even the limp wrists, gets fixed. This is just a by product of the mass system they added

[fallen glacier]

I do think the game would benefit from being able to toggle certain stances/holds/etc, which you can sort of do now with shift and alt and LMBx1/RMBx1 to switch your weapon's resting position. But it can certainly be more in-depth and dynamic

[warped apex]

I used to have to drag my mouse before some things, I barely move my wrist & fingers now for my mouse

[crimson compass]

Dawg my progression character is 96kg. It is not fixed at high weight.

[warped apex]

they do not get fixed what so ever lol

[hasty narwhal]

slimed the fuck out

[warped apex]

and I shouldn't need to be a body builder for a 3lb sword lol

[fallen glacier]

96kg isn't too much though. There's people I've seen with 100+, most I've seen is 110 I think. But I agree the wrists definitely need work

[crimson compass]

This was basically my suggestion for the "guard stance" thing on the 1h stabbing. I think it's cool and has it's uses BUT it 100% should have been a different keybind and they should have kept the normal stabbing

[sharp orchid]

oh no, im not talking 96 kg, im talking

[hasty narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814962822286802955/1418267393473384599/ezgif-33d2c750ec22dd.gif

[dire moon]

I want to see this guard stance

[crimson compass]

Yeah dude I'm not doing save file editing just to make the physics feel okay.

[fallen glacier]

this aint natty tho is it? I have no idea how long it would take to naturally get to that weight

[glad ore]

Apparently there’s some people using halfsword clips to promote their own game

[crimson compass]

I would prefer they just fix the damn game

[sharp orchid]

it take a little while lemme say

[fallen glacier]

yea the gladiator game right? lol shit's so goofy

[crimson compass]

email the devs tbh this will get lost in here

[sharp orchid]

fair, but im just saying this is a by product of the mass system

[hasty narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162762431072845966/1370578558623420550/caption.gif

[sharp orchid]

yeah ive heard of this before, like those shitty mobile game ads?

[crimson compass]

Yeah might be true. I hope they can get it tuned up because I'm disappointed with the EA at the moment.

[hasty narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-it-could-be-you-it-could-be-me-spy-gif-23428031

[crimson compass]

Looked forward to the release for over a year just to get a regression from the demo in almost all of the aspects I care about

[sharp orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043854764095582260/1476399540428079267/MedalTVHalfSword20260223230538004-tr-edit-1772071426-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

leads to some funny shit sometimes tho

[crimson compass]

the tenderizer

[sharp orchid]

yessir

[hasty narwhal]

"animals" aka horse

and tigers

lets fight tigers

[sharp orchid]

micheal jackson spin holy

[crimson compass]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-gif-230597167926076170

[warped apex]

food & water system should be added lol

[sharp orchid]

wolves and bears more likely

i bet someone would mod tigers tho

[hasty narwhal]

tigers

[warped apex]

different foods different buffs

[hasty narwhal]

jousting tigers

[fallen glacier]

there's already animals in the game besides the horse too

[warped apex]

you drink bad water = death

[jovial basalt]

This pains me considering I use proper technique when fighting lol

[sharp orchid]

oh?

[crimson compass]

what the hell 😭

[sharp orchid]

ik but physics bugs give it aura

[sharp orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-mike-ehrmantraut-scream-ai-bcs-gif-13936852466482969483

[jovial basalt]

I'm geeked and I am just hitting crazy clean clips rn

[fallen glacier]

flies, robber flies, wasps. We can also hear dogs barking and cats meowing at night in the arena

[sharp orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043854764095582260/1476736945739661463/MedalTVHalfSword20260223191228288-tr-edit-aef4-1772151778-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[jovial basalt]

I love that

[fallen glacier]

I imagine they may add boars and actual dogs, since they're painted on the walls in the cellar

I think there will also be more revenant types

[glad ore]

I got this clip from the demo

[sharp orchid]

do bugs count as animals tho?

[fallen glacier]

There's that one painting of a revenant riding on a horse with a scythe, looks really cool

[jovial basalt]

[glad ore]

Too broke to get the early access atm

[fallen glacier]

yes, insects are animals

[sharp orchid]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tuff-sick

[jovial basalt]

[sharp orchid]

but are they really?

[fallen glacier]

yeah, wym?

look it up fam. Insects are animals

[sharp orchid]

like in spirit would you consider a bug to be an animal or its own thing

[spiral crow]

WHY IS WILLY SPINNING THE FUCKING SHAFT OF THE POLLAXE

[fallen glacier]

I would consider it to be an animal cus it's a literal animal

[sharp orchid]

let willie spin his shaft man

[spiral crow]

I CAN'T SMASH THE DAMN ZOMBIE HEAD BECAUSE OF THIS

[sand herald]

Tweaker o'clock

[sharp orchid]

but like in spirit

ykwim?

[fallen glacier]

I can't tell if you're trolling or what

[sharp orchid]

im just tired asf

lowky ima sleep gn yall

[fallen glacier]

night fam be safe

[fallen glacier]

had some shit like that happen to me a minute ago. Can't believe I stuck the landing

[spiral crow]

What does the backpack icon mean..

[jovial basalt]

where do I get that key and mouse display????

[fallen glacier]

#1263255402729181184 message - Half Sword themed OBS key overlay by Sable

https://github.com/dcki-dietrich/hs-mouse-visualizer/releases/tag/release - Half Sword mouse visualizer overlay by dcki-dietrich

[night harbor]

how do i grab the armor off them again

[fallen glacier]

grab them and hold the grab button

[night harbor]

the same grab button i used to grab them?

[fallen glacier]

yes

[little sorrel]

how do you kill really armored guys :)

[acoustic dagger]

pole weapons, blunt weapons

the endgame is soooooo tedious.............

the barons dont wear armored shoes, they have their feet as weakpoints like in the playtest/demo

i wish i got the set, i only get one piece every time, now i need to kill him like four more times

[spiral crow]

Wait that was it? That's the baron fight?

[acoustic dagger]

right?

when i first beat him i was like

how do i take off his armor, i wanna fight the baron next round, i need to be ready

not realizing his pushover ass was the baron

https://tenor.com/view/risitas-el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-issou-jesus-gif-12145166

[spiral crow]

That was the most anticlimactic final boss ever

[acoustic dagger]

honestly

im genuinely sorry to say it was ass

i didnt even know he was the boss

[spiral crow]

Well time to spend 10 hours getting full black armour set

[acoustic dagger]

the black pieces r rare but i like them

im halfway done with it

i have the gloves greaves cuisses and the vambrace

im honestly thinking of modding the game atp

idek if i will cause it runs poorly still

even tho i have a 3080 and i9 12th gen

i play on 640x480 on LOW

and i still barely get 50 frames

and if i plug in my monitor? forget it

[crimson compass]

You can't

[acoustic dagger]

whaaaaaat noooo

[crimson compass]

They aren't in the game (for some inexplicable reason)

[acoustic dagger]

you gotta be kidding me

[spiral crow]

What

[crimson compass]

There are bits and pieces but not a whole set

[spiral crow]

Why

[crimson compass]

IDK

[fallen glacier]

they are they're just unobtainable

[acoustic dagger]

booooooooooo

mod the game time

[fallen glacier]

I imagine they'll add them in the future

[acoustic dagger]

they should add female willies

i wanna play as a girl knight

(i am a girl knight in real life)

[crimson compass]

Another baffling dev decision. They existed in the demo and still exist in the game files they just forgot to add them to the pool of active items to torture us lol

[acoustic dagger]

trolololoo

the game is very grindy and repetitive

[crimson compass]

did you ever get those blue shoulder pieces btw?

[acoustic dagger]

i honestly had more fun on the playtests and demos

than on the version i spent money on

[crimson compass]

Yeah I mean I also went back to playing the demo after 60ish hrs of EA. Lot of stuff is broken/weird/missing

[acoustic dagger]

facts 😭

i like the idea of half sword early access more than the execution

[fallen glacier]

I did yeah, took a while though lol. I was on the hunt for them ever since and finally found them on a mercenary. Had to hire him and get him knocked down/killed but I got them. I think I actually have a video of me doing that. He was hard for enemies to kill so eventually I grabbed a bundle of hay and beat him with it until he was unconscious then took his armor.

This is how I found out that mercenaries retrieve their entire set of armor after the battle if you steal it from them. So I was going to get a 2nd set of blue spaulders but then something happened we both died or something and I wasn't able to. But then later on the blued spaulders appeared at the trader, I couldn't believe it. First and only time I've seen them at the trader. I went ahead and bought them so I have 2 sets. Haven't ever seen them again though

[crimson compass]

Hopefully they will fix it up over time cause I agree.

[crimson compass]

Damn luuuuucky. I was not able to find one before I gave up on the EA.

Maybe next patch if they fix enough stuff

or update not patch it's supposed to be i guess

[fallen glacier]

I think they may be one of the rarest pieces. I've only seen them 4 times my whole time playing

[crimson compass]

Yeah definitely. I gotta check the mercs every day when I get back to it, never really thought about them as a source of rare armor

I typically grab interesting bits from enemies

[fallen glacier]

true same

[dire moon]

Did u send that block vid. Just got home

[fallen glacier]

not yet I will in a bit

[winter creek]

the demo honestly controls better

[acoustic dagger]

super duper truth nuke

[winter creek]

so many little things wrong with EA right now that stack up to it being an overall worse experience. Like going into first person and getting the super jittery camera experience

combat feels so clean and responsive

[acoustic dagger]

in the

demo / playtest

[winter creek]

yea the demo

[warped apex]

However the demo controls far better

@acoustic dagger @winter creek after 100hrs of the demo I can begin to do stuff like this

[acoustic dagger]

impressive!

[warped apex]

@acoustic dagger not as impressive as my demo gameplay

[acoustic dagger]

HIRE THIS MAN!!

you need to
make ads for the hs team

[warped apex]

Wromg clip

[acoustic dagger]

HAHAHAA

that was NOT the wrong clip you sly dog

[graceful rapids]

Guys should we give the drunk patron a break?

[fallen glacier]

got a nice stab in too with my parrying dagger at the end

[dire moon]

Cool af. I can't believe I didn't see it before but it's very obviously a block

[covert forge]

neck broken

[dire moon]

Can't seem to get grappling down

How did u do that

Looks like u swing with the right and go low then lift over u?

[covert forge]

yes

swing with the right and grab then swing the left and grab then lift

if i didn't lose my grip could've been cool

[modern harness]

my reaction when i see there's more ranks after reaching Lord

[spiral crow]

Nah it's just progress bar to fight the baron

[dire moon]

I'm shorter and about 83 kg
Is that enough is the question.

Might have to retire this character and just do the meta height weight thing.

[modern harness]

oh wow, that's good to know, not much left now then, phew

[dire moon]

What if halfsword was like Pokemon

[spiral crow]

Willie I choose you

[dire moon]

😂

No not quite

I mean traveling around to best different champions of the lands.

[vital bluff]

Oh word, ty friend

[slim meadow]

murder drones mentioned

[little sorrel]

does EVERY person you kill show up in the abyss??

[fallen glacier]

pretty much yea

[little sorrel]

i've been splitting a lot of heads without them showing up

and that sucks because i was really excited to kill them again

cuz surely if i cut a guys head off he's dead

[ivory yarrow]

yall peep this

[fallen glacier]

Don't fret boss, I got you covered. Quick and clean I promise.

[misty urchin]

why does full game cost a fortune

[vital bluff]

[main orbit]

all my gear randomly popped off

also have two gauntlets

[slim meadow]

it's a 50/50

either it's a bug

or general skill issue

[bleak frost]

this happened to me with the baron cuisess
did you retire/make a new character?

[main orbit]

no

[wicked depot]

That happened to me and it duplicated multiple custom weapons

Which was neat

It was after a brawl then i went to the next fight which was duel and i had nothing equipped

[supple dagger]

I present to you something I made up for a new way to play the game: the patron challenge
You start in beggar tier with only shoes, black hosen, and black doublet
Both player and npc damage are set to max
You can't unequip or change your clothing
You can only use weapons and armor you pick up in battle and you aren't allowed to insure them
You can't hire mercenaries
Goal: Defeat the commoner tourney or survive at least 50 days to end the challenge

[wicked depot]

Do you have a save file that starts at beggar tier with those items?

[supple dagger]

You can use any save file

[wicked depot]

Oh so you can do challenge at any weight as well

[supple dagger]

Well you have to start at beggar tier which puts you at the lowest weight

[slim meadow]

what if one were to go further

than commoner

[supple dagger]

They can if they want to, but the further they go, the higher the bar is for others (example, someone defeats militia tier or survives 70 days and now everyone else has to do the same thing to complete the challenge)

[wicked depot]

They should let us bring props into fights

I want frying pan baron fight

[supple dagger]

maybe in a new update theyll turn the frying pan into an actual weapon lol

[wicked depot]

No i want it to have no actual grip still lol

[supple dagger]

well it having actual grip requires it to be a weapon and not a prop

[wicked depot]

Right which we dont want

[supple dagger]

the first match

[vital bluff]

What's stopping people from just resting for like 90 days straight?

[wicked depot]

Wooden paddle start is crazy

[supple dagger]

well how about this
You can't rest unless it's for healing or nighttime

[supple dagger]

also for actually getting the black clothing i think either just stealing the clothes from the actual patron or just stealing some in battles before doing the challenge

[bleak frost]

you could always insure some black clothing so it can be used for the challenge
idk if that'd go against your no insuring rule though

[supple dagger]

No insuring only applies to armor and weapons
if you have black clothing already insured thats fine
after all you will need it if you die and want to retake the challenge

Dawg I'm cooked

[misty basin]

learn to use the weapons

or train up muscles in sparing

[misty basin]

xdddddd

[supple dagger]

seeing how I have both max damage and im not allowed to hire mercenaries I have a feeling im going to see the abyss a lot

[misty basin]

untill you get armour

[supple dagger]

also 60 kg willie is so bad at fighting it's comical

[supple dagger]

im in beggar tier and im not allowed to use the trade to get armor so every fight will be like this everytime until I get better

[misty basin]

yep

[misty basin]

muscle building works tho

[supple dagger]

yeah i might as well get that figured out before attempting the tourney again

omg i just love champion fights so muchhh

revenge

OMG I FORGOT CHESTS HAVE ARMOR IN THEM THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

DAMN IT

[restive barn]

asteroid

[waxen lance]

long fuckass mace

[supple dagger]

most optimal way to gain muscles

[slim meadow]

nice

[waxen lance]

I like the medieval shitting chutes they have on the slums map

[uneven berry]

i just lobotomised a guy i love the rondel dagger

[supple dagger]

YES FINALLY

[supple dagger]

Imagine seeing this while you're in one of the toilets

[steady cove]

Why else is the floor slippery?

[uneven berry]

i swear reverse grip dagger was the best addition to the game

[waxen lance]

Lmfaooo

[supple dagger]

alright yall imma go to bed now
for now heres the last clip I made

[lost whale]

MMO RPG Halfsword not so early access update when?
im sure it will be a good idea to do that and that there will not be need for enormous servers and for persons connection to be 100gb/s. there would definitely never be sync problems
🙂

[dark fern]

are abyss zombies able to bite if they have a full face helmet + bevor?

[naive depot]

How do I get demo willie in ea is it a mod or i got to dig trough the files

[sweet agate]

turn down the hair slider to 0

[plain brook]

watch this video and tell me again that wrists havent gotten worse in recent updates

half of this would not have been possible in day 1 EA due to weapons having collision originally

[rapid pond]

Wrist where not touched

[plain brook]

are you joking look at the video its pretty damn clear they messed wrists up

[rapid pond]

They where floppy since day 1 they didnt get "worse"

[plain brook]

they where floppy yes

they where really bad

they did however get even worse

[rapid pond]

Again, not touched since day 1, legs got touched

Not wrists

[plain brook]

partially due to a new control system in the patch that enabled weapon clipping

you have more control over wrist movement

[rapid pond]

Yes

Try not to yank the mouse though

[plain brook]

it doesnt matter

it does the same jank animations just slow

i play on a really low sens

[rapid pond]

Actually does, yanking your mouse wont necessarily do a better hit

Quite the oposite in fact

Go slower

[plain brook]

i know

i play on a low sense for that

but since the wrist patch

it hasnt even helped

the weapons are now uncontrollable

[bleak frost]

I have a pretty high sens and they feel fine
Granted, I'm playing on a 95kg willie

[zinc echo]

can someone send me a picture of willie's face? im making an avatar of willie in another game

[plain brook]

its not like its impossible to get situations where they still work but for the most part the weapon clipping and wrist control patch has made the gameplay so much less precise and thats on top of how bad it already was for everything other than polearms already

[zinc echo]

thx

[rapid pond]

Idk ive been getting quite the precise strikes recently, literraly just slowed down my movements even more

[plain brook]

perhaps you who was not playing that way before who are now are making up for the worse physics with better gameplay

but ive been dooing slower blows and stepping into accurate hits for ages now

[bleak frost]

Why is willie singing black hole sun?

[cobalt pollen]

Yeah I think it has changed somehow

Also swordplay is so unsatisfying in EA

[rapid pond]

Floppy wrists again, been addressed

Dont worry y'all

[plain brook]

demo clip for example

[rapid pond]

Never said i didnt miss this

It kinda seems like the wrist strenght never increases with the overall strenght system

[cobalt pollen]

can u check your strenght level in any way that’s not just looking in the save files?

[plain brook]

yeah just saying slowing down your attacks only goes so far the wrists have been bad and now they are worse and its since they disabled clipping so i have to assume they changed something else then too

[rapid pond]

The only other thing that changed with that patch in particular was the legs stability, im guessing we just arent used to the clipping and that makes it seem worse for some

[rapid pond]

U just see the little bar under weight

[plain brook]

the only thing they told us about

secret or unnoted changes happen all the time and even moreso in indie games

[rapid pond]

They know about the wrists that will be changed eventually

[plain brook]

also i figured out the randomised fps bug

or i should say i figured how to fix it

turn dlss on and off

id bet its a vram leak of some kind

[median kindle]

A big laugh for anyone who does not have dlss

[plain brook]

what

how could you not have dlss

a bigger laugh for anyone who has an amd card

[median kindle]

Exactly

[cobalt pollen]

Naw

I’m happy with my 7800xt

[plain brook]

*as long as you play new games that support it and are happy waiting for half of said new games to get around to updating to fix their support

[cobalt pollen]

also AMD owners are not that concerned with Vram

[median kindle]

Let's all just accept the fact that optimization will be bad for the next couple months

[cobalt pollen]

Not to the degree that nvjdja people are

[plain brook]

are they stupid or something?

[cobalt pollen]

I mean yeah that’s true

But it’s not like I play that many new games

[plain brook]

then its worse

[cobalt pollen]

Nah we just get more vram

[plain brook]

many old games just dont work at all on amd cards

you have to rely on gog to preserve them

[cobalt pollen]

Nah my cards raw strength just pushes through

Atleast for now

I haven’t had any problems gaming

[plain brook]

its not about raw strength many older games simply dont work and dont have shaders for amd cards

[wind charm]

the smell of fear

[cobalt pollen]

Probably you’re right

As I’ve said I haven’t encountered any problems yet

[cobalt pollen]

In my 1,5 years of ownership

[median kindle]

And rtx people get stupid amounts of fps through frame gen and dlss

But that's just me

I'm extremely tired so

[plain brook]

frame gen is not fps

[median kindle]

Oops

[plain brook]

but dlss is way better (for now) than fsr

[cobalt pollen]

Yeah amds lagging behind on software more than it is on hardware

[plain brook]

frame gen is like negative fps because it will always slightly make latency worse which is the main advantage of a high fps

[frail veldt]

the main advantage of a high fps for me is it looks smooth

[plain brook]

in a time where software is becoming more important as the difference in raw compute power gets smaller and smaller each gen and games rely on dlss more and more

[frail veldt]

the latency is really negligible, people overexaggerate this part of frame gen

[plain brook]

the smooth look combined with the smooth feel, its why some games feel smooth at 30fps on console while pc games often feel sluggish when they run at 30

[frail veldt]

if you have a decent base framerate the frame gen latency isnt noticeable at all

[median kindle]

I never really notice the latency

[plain brook]

thats true but its missing the core issue

when you go from 60fps to 120fps the time between frames reduces by half

[cobalt pollen]

Yeah but isn’t frame gen mostly for people whose base frame rate isn’t good?

[frail veldt]

3x is where i start to notice something's off personally, 4x is when it starts to feel awful

[plain brook]

when you use framegen to turn 60 into 120 it doesnt do anything to the latence

[frail veldt]

no

[plain brook]

the issue isnt so much the latency it adds but the latency it doesnt remove

[frail veldt]

it's if you're getting 60 but want 120 basically, at those frames your latency wouldn't be too bad

if you're running 30 and want 60 or higher with frame gen though it'll start to feel like ass

frame gen also makes it easier to get a stable framerate i feel

[plain brook]

60fps has 16ms of delay and 120fps has 6ms

60fps with a 2x framegen can with the best case scenario have 16ms of delay

[frail veldt]

if im chugging between 80-100 but frame gen lets me lock at 120, thats a pretty big visual benefit for what is likely a negligible downside

[plain brook]

its not negligible but it gets close when the starting number is 80

but so is framegen at that point

[restive barn]

custom map

[frail veldt]

whether or not it's negligible i've found is mostly subjective, if it bothers you it bothers you, don't use it then, but if it doesn't then have at it

not everyone will notice, luckily im one of the people that doesn't unless im rlly blastin it

[plain brook]

the issue comes when people say it gives free frames when they are just adding glorified motion blur

it also ruins fps comparions when people say their fps is 60 when its really 43 x 3

its a cool feature for people who can fall for it

but its fake lipstick for a poor optimisation pig

[median kindle]

All these ai feature basically does is

Let's say u get 30 fos and now boom 60 through some miracle, still have the latency of 30 fps but you see 60 fps also sorry if any of you went over that lol

[plain brook]

this guy gets it

its not a miracle tho

it uses "deep learning" to basically make a smur between the previous frame and the next frame

[median kindle]

Yeah it takes the motion and compare previous frame and predicts

[plain brook]

sometimes they use the motion data and vertex (polygon) data from a game to make asumptions on which direction to blur

[cobalt pollen]

Wouldn’t that make teeeible motion blur?

[plain brook]

yeah it looks pretty bad when you can tell but at the intended 100+ fps the blur is subtle and can easily be mistaken for "smoothness"

[median kindle]

Think of it like gartic phone

You know how u get a drawing and u gotta continue it or something

[frail veldt]

why can't we just like, not hate everything every now and then?

[plain brook]

i dont hate everything dlss is free fps

its just i hate fake things

[median kindle]

That's what Ai is doing and sometimes it can end up with inaccuracy

[frail veldt]

if people like it they like it, i dont like it being a crutch for poor optimization but it really aint the worst thing ever

[plain brook]

like framegen

[cobalt pollen]

I mean the other guys are making a valid critique of it

Not really hating

[plain brook]

this is true too

[median kindle]

I really don't think its hating, more like giving your opinion and backing it up

Hating is trying to discourage use

[frail veldt]

critique is like 90% of what you hear about any topic

[cobalt pollen]

I mean yeah?

People talk about products, experiences and people

So they give their opinions

[plain brook]

can i marry you

[frail veldt]

you gotta admit bro, sometimes it's a lil exhausting even for you

[median kindle]

If there are cons it deserves to have some recognition and talking about how it impacts (in this situation) gameplay isn't all that hating especially if predominantly (for me) the feature is really great

[plain brook]

i like to talk about the stuff i like but i also like to discuss stuff i dont like to understand why and so do other people

[median kindle]

• If something is objectively good and is mutual between everyone then what is hate

[frail veldt]

so do i, but in all my years of being on the internet and it being a constant stream of criticism about any topic that gets brought up, it was super fun for like 12-13 years but eventually it started to get real old n im like can we just be positive every now and then and like things

[plain brook]

hell i use framegen all the time and even in the wrong way, i apply it to old emulator games because yeah it looks awful and doesnt help but it doesnt exactly hurt too because i understand its not really helping

[cobalt pollen]

discourse has always been that man

[plain brook]

yeah but its kinda dull to talk about stuff you like "hey i love this thing" "yeah me too" [CONVERSATION OVER]

[frail veldt]

discourse doesn't always have to be misery though, something about the internet uniquely brings it out and encourages it too

[plain brook]

who said misery

i love discussing why things are like they are good or bad

[frail veldt]

what about "i don't like this thing"
-"I like it"
-"yeah thats fair i just disagree"

[plain brook]

i would follow that up with "why do you disagree"

and it becomes interesting

[median kindle]

Concern brings tension, tension brings discussion, discussion creates engagement

[frail veldt]

if you can handle that followup without getting dismissive or getting your ego involved, yea it can be fun

[plain brook]

yeah?

the people who get dismissive or egotistical arent the type id talk with anyway

[frail veldt]

eh it's one of those things that sounds like "no shit sherlock" when you hear it but if you look closely enough you find that almost no one actually does that very often

everyone thinks they're the type of person that can argue without getting personally involved

in my experience it's genuinely a rare trait

[plain brook]

its not a whole thing

people usually have levels

[frail veldt]

what kinda levels

[plain brook]

they are willing to discuss within a safety margin of what they already think

some people have a large margin

[frail veldt]

yeah true, also a personal pet peeve of mine

[plain brook]

some a really small one

[frail veldt]

people like fighting in home territory basically

[wheat verge]

man im still sticking to the demo the preformance is ass in the full game

[plain brook]

*performance

[wheat verge]

i have been saying it wrong for a while it seems

[plain brook]

people often do

be better

[wheat verge]

anyway my way is better

[plain brook]

FUCK

[wheat verge]

makes more sense

[frail veldt]

the most draining person to be around is someone that likes to debate and argue, so they frequently instigate arguments or instinctively play devils advocate, but they don't actually have the spine to handle disagreement so they get frustrated and aggressive if they feel threatened or like they might be losing

[wind charm]

Have you tried dx12?

[plain brook]

also the slums is a bad first level

[wheat verge]

yes, still might be an AMD issue

[plain brook]

try the cellar map too

slums is real bad

its basically the worst you will get

[frail veldt]

turning down blood helps frames a lot

blood is just the frame slaughterer

[cobalt pollen]

Have u updated the drivers?

[wheat verge]

yesterday

[median kindle]

It was so bad starting off because first thing first you get the ol slip and it gives a nasty first impression, personal experience though

[plain brook]

this is true theres lots of people who are draining such is life

[frail veldt]

yeah on launch getting like 30fps while i was on ultra performance dlss was a real kick in the nuts

[wind charm]

I have heard of AMD getting the short end of the stick, sorry to hear that man. Soon I'm sure they will fix

[cobalt pollen]

What card then?

[frail veldt]

with my got damn 5080

[plain brook]

yeah i thought the balance was a lot worse than it is at first cause they dont really have much feedback that mud is slippery

[median kindle]

Yeah , realize how having valid concerns about a topic created a topic already

[frail veldt]

yeah this needs to somehow be better communicated to the player

[wheat verge]

RX 3080

[frail veldt]

slums is like the first place you'll ever going to be fighting in, then your character just eats shit (literally) for seemingly no reason, makes the game feel broken

[plain brook]

i thought about it for a bit and all my ideas seemed to comedic

[wheat verge]

nah mb radeon 3080'

[plain brook]

its kinda hard to indicate something has made you slip in a serious manner

[frail veldt]

honestly you could just do it with some sorta particle effect to show that your character's feet are slipping in something

[cobalt pollen]

??

[wheat verge]

do yo usay the rx? or is the rtx for nvidia, honestly im out of the loop on graphics cards

[cobalt pollen]

Rx for amd

[plain brook]

thats not bad i suppose that could work

[cobalt pollen]

But I don’t think there’s a 3080

[plain brook]

i would love mud shader effects

[cobalt pollen]

For amd

[plain brook]

LET ME GET DIRTY

[median kindle]

Including strength system, my old frail Willie took forever to stand up and I got mad especially that it just felt a worse version and I never knew you could get stronger

[wheat verge]

leme check with my pc

[median kindle]

All it needs is like a better tutorial

[frail veldt]

the new blood changes are so weird, i feel like im getting less blood overall but a bigger performance impact

[wind charm]

https://youtu.be/Aa-ZIXJdDW4?si=lOVt21ZpjbfNPE48

[wheat verge]

ahh RX 5700 XT

im just stupid

[cobalt pollen]

So that might just be a pure power thing tbh

[plain brook]

this was literally my first thought when i was like "how would they indicate slips"

[cobalt pollen]

The game is still unoptimized

[frail veldt]

devs can add a more serious sound effect, someones gotta mod this badboy in tho

[median kindle]

Yes because they HAD to render the entire slums

It was needed

[plain brook]

imagine seeing someone slip in the mud and getting back up and they whole face now brown

[frail veldt]

vine boom sound effect on war staff overhead hits

[plain brook]

i super want mud shader effects

[cobalt pollen]

That’s just optimal obviously

[wheat verge]

yeah fair, i mean its a solid GPU, i aint thinking of upgrading for another few years

[frail veldt]

nvidia app has suddenly gotten so buggy for me, driver updates stop at 100% and cant be resumed

[plain brook]

might be time for the rapture

i reset everything once a year or so

windows tends to acumulate bad humors

[frail veldt]

im in a relatively new windows install man 😿

[plain brook]

needs to be bled to get rid of them

[frail veldt]

this didnt happen on windows 10

[bleak frost]

Good news! Windows 11 is worse!

[plain brook]

could be windows 9

[bleak frost]

Damn, didn't think of that

[frail veldt]

i had to upgrade my ram because windows 10 created a black hole that made it so i basically couldnt use my pc for anything if i had a browser going too

[bleak frost]

Play halfsword on winXP

[frail veldt]

and im pretty sure windows 11 is greedier but i dont notice cuz i upgraded

do you still have to restart your pc after driver updates? it used to be mandatory pretty much but you're not asked to do it at all anymore

[bleak frost]

You're supposed to, but you can delay it

Most of the time they ask if you want to do it now

[median kindle]

But towards a point it forces you but you can still avoid it by emergency shutting down

[plain brook]

i cant wait till valve makes windows totally optional

[frail veldt]

been years since it asked me

it just upgrades n then is like go off king

[plain brook]

ive been through the bell curve of linux and yeah its still not quite there but its getting close

[frail veldt]

linux users 🥀

[plain brook]

i now know linux is great its just a little too much effort to manage a double boot for the 5 things you still need windows for

its not even hard to install anymore

most distros have auto setup

[dark fern]

are the devs aware that NPCs don't path around objects?

[plain brook]

thats gotta be real low on the priority list

[rapid pond]

Way better than day 1 ate at lwast

[frail veldt]

upgrading to windows 11 from 10 was a fucking headache on its own lmfao

[cobalt pollen]

I think so

[plain brook]

windows is much more painful to install than linux

[dark fern]

really? it's the most obvious bug, even more than whatever limp wrist problems y'all are having

[frail veldt]

i had to use a workaround because it was arbitrarily impossible on my existing machine

[plain brook]

i had a major issue with my pc and windows literally would not install till i fixed it

linux worked the first try

[dark fern]

it's fine with objects that can be kicked around but willies will literally just run into the cart on the forest map indefinitely

sometimes they knock themselves out on it, I've won several forest duels without ever seeing the enemy (not until after winning at least)

[bleak frost]

I've created a weird problem with my win11 install. The drive it's on isn't technically able to run windows, but there's some black magic with my bios that allows it to boot still
I don't even have secure boot on somehow

[plain brook]

oh i got a clip for this

[frail veldt]

sometimes they knock themselves out on their own feet

[gaunt pulsar]

Hi guys

[bleak frost]

Yeah. I was on the alley map, and the other willie was in one of the side alleys and so was I. He just never came up to me until I exited to the main road

[frail veldt]

peaked when i got this kill

[dark fern]

hm, I haven't seen that

[bleak frost]

nice

[dark fern]

but the cart on the forest map is really bad, especially given how many poles stick out from it

[bleak frost]

Definitely

[gaunt pulsar]

How do you get in the cart on the forest map

[bleak frost]

They'll fall over sometimes from running into it

[dark fern]

one time I knocked a guy under it, he kept trying to get up and bonking his head on the underside of it and slowly moving backward, so I just walked around and killed him when he finally got out again

[rapid pond]

managing that with the baron's peak is even peaker lmao

that thing weights 2 tons

[frail veldt]

as far as im concerned the baron's beak can't thrustr

that is a weapon for bonking thru and thru

[gaunt pulsar]

I kept spawning in the same spot on the forest map and kept falling down

[rapid pond]

it can kinda thrust

it has the spike to do so

[frail veldt]

this was just some bullshit

like i wish drag cuts were a thing

[quasi talon]

why cant both players use mouse and keyboard through remote play or parsec

and is that changing

[dark fern]

can you kill people in brawl?

[frail veldt]

dont think so

i legit dont think blunt damage can kill in this game

i think people are gaslit into thinking it does

[dark fern]

very nice control

[dark fern]

well you can't exactly tell between someone who's dead and just unconscious

should be testable though

[frail veldt]

yeah i think thats why people are under the impression it kills

like this guy woke back up after like 45 sec

[graceful rapids]

You can kill people in a brawl 100%

I've done it

[dark fern]

pay off all spirits, go do a brawl, wail on someone with the footstool for 10 minutes, check how many spirits you have

[graceful rapids]

You need to hit the head atleast 20+ times with your fists

[frail veldt]

you're just knocking them out king

[graceful rapids]

You'll hear a crunch

[frail veldt]

wait long enough and they'll wake back up and start groaning

[graceful rapids]

That's when you'll know

[frail veldt]

crunch dont mean shit in EA

[dark fern]

ok let me just finish my lunch and I'll go test it

[graceful rapids]

I'll play probably when they release new content but if I play before that I'll test it

[frail veldt]

sometimes it takes a while for them to wake up but i assure you they will eventually

[naive depot]

wear a bevor kids

[frail veldt]

when testing make sure you're using a blunt weapon that doesnt have something that might accidentally become lethal

i.e a spike

[dark fern]

I'll just do the brawl gamemode specifically

[frail veldt]

i think that also might contribute to people thinking blunt kills, some hammers have small spikes on the side that definitely do kill if they make contact

[dark fern]

can you even find lethal weapons on any of the brawl maps?

I don't think so

at least I haven't found any in the cellar

[frail veldt]

nah, only environmental "weapons" that arent really weapons

[naive depot]

the pan in the cellar

[frail veldt]

i.e the pan in the cellar, the candlestick (not that one), the poles holding the crates up in alley

[dark fern]

I don't understand why they did that

we literally had a footstool weapon in the demo

but now it's just a prop

[weak roost]

Yeah for sure, it is then plan.

[acoustic dagger]

whoaa its ovrdth

[naive depot]

they realy gott to ad a way to put different textures on armor like those black helmets

[bleak frost]

I assume it's part of the plan to make the armor guy be able to make armor and choose the material

[formal summit]

will theya dd faction s back

[tight isle]

no

im john haLFdword

[formal summit]

why😔

[tight isle]

idk i lied

[bleak frost]

I'm gonna guess no. It just doesn't seem to fit in the direction they want to take the game

[frail veldt]

to all my custom weapon crafting chads in here: for some fucking reason with longswords, a smaller grip is almost always more control

[rancid jolt]

Quick question is there a chance the dev will change the spec for the game when it is finished ?

[dire moon]

Weight in the hand, not down below?

[frail veldt]

i've been maxing out the grip for my 2h longswords this whole time, now making a few with the grip only just at where it needs to be for it to be two handed, the thing controls beautifully

[frail veldt]

seems like thats what it is

[dire moon]

Yes indeed.

[rancid jolt]

Or the spec will be permanent ?

[frail veldt]

this kind of completely changes everything i thought i knew about forging swords

[dire moon]

The game allows u to get kinda crazy about it I think for a reason.

[frail veldt]

the only thing you seem to sacrifice with a smaller grip is a tiny bit of reach

[dire moon]

And yes experiment, there will eventually be a meta for building but I think from a general idea the speed always wins

[dire moon]

Yes the reach disadvantage is noticable but hear me out on the
Speed always wins
Thing.

[frail veldt]

actually i noticed with a grip as small as it can be for a 2 hander my willie struggles keeping the sword straight for certain swings, it'll like stand upright awkwardly

[dire moon]

It's an old aoe cheat code

[dire moon]

Interesting. Not enough leverage then

Longsword irl from what I can tell they use it like a lever

[frail veldt]

im trying to make my magnum opus sword rn because i finally have enough money to afford gold metal

[fading niche]

are there any benefits to not wearing armor?

[frail veldt]

and it's taking quite a while to get everything right

[fading niche]

peak

[frail veldt]

speed, fatigue, and stability

although i will say it's just not worth it

[fading niche]

perfect

[frail veldt]

without armor a single blow ends you

[fading niche]

its ok i can wear a helmet

[frail veldt]

my 96kg willie wears his armor like a second skin atp

dont think it weighs the boy down at all anymore

[frail veldt]

i've made countless custom weapons i genuinely don't think i could possibly make a guide on the forging

the more i play with it the more it feels like it's just experimentation and trial and error

any general rules i try to think of i just end up breaking eventually

like weapon forging is literally just vibes

you can make any build work hypothetically with enough slider tweaking

[bleak frost]

you mean the recommended/minimum specs?
no way for us to know

[frail veldt]

like some in-game guide would be nice, tell us what each slider actually does to the feel of the weapon

it'll still be elderitch alchemy but at least it's something

[bleak frost]

you do also have to keep in mind that minimum and recommended specs are based off what hardware the devs have available

[dire moon]

What do u mean? There should be consistency's

[frail veldt]

there are some but with 8 sliders to work with and each weapon component having different properties, consistencies are only consistent for that particular build

for instance with some sword blades you generally want the POB to be at a specific range, however if you tweak the ratio of pommel mass and guard mass you can break that rule completely

[dire moon]

So all swords are similar when 1 handed and 2 and such? I'm sorry I'm not understanding

[dire moon]

Ahh

But u are meaning irl to the game?

[frail veldt]

no i mean in the game

like it's arcane magic

you CAN follow specific rules and just make weapons like that

but you'll be making the same weapons over and over that have similar properties

[dire moon]

I wonder if we find out willies max swing speed

[restive barn]

who said magic

[frail veldt]

i.e i have in my head a specific set of rules for making a sword built for quick and accurate stabs

i can make a bunch of swords that do that, but i can't really change anything in the build or everything gets thrown off

i think "the blade should be light" i followed that rule for weeks

until i found a way to make a heavy blade result in a weapon with the same feel and agility

[dire moon]

Then I guess that's how u make a stabby sword? And that's the meta for it? I'm not certain I haven't used the building system outside of my pole hammer

[dire moon]

How?

[frail veldt]

polehammers are quite simple honestly

[dire moon]

Where do u put the balance

[frail veldt]

for polehammers or stabby swords?

[dire moon]

Polehammer

I have a hook on bottom and double beak with long spear

[north wigeon]

Halfsword is a peak game that’s good amen

[frail veldt]

a lot of it is depending on what you want the size and mass of the hammer itself to be, generally with blunt weapons though you want the POB to be as high up as it can go without completely sacrificing control

heavier grip = more control, heavier hammer = more impact and damage, however with hammers specifically you do not need to maximize impact, try to build for more control

that means a lower point of balance closer to the hands

as long as it can KO on headshot, it's good enough with enough practice

if you want it to break limbs though that takes a lot more finesse with the forging

the pommel with polehammers is mostly just to affect the POB since the grip will always be relatively light compared to the hammer

[dire moon]

Interesting. I'll have to give it a shot and see how it feels that way
Does length add much to the factor

[frail veldt]

the baron's beak is the peak of arcane blacksmithing, that weapon i think is genuinely impossible to recreate in the forge

[frail veldt]

yes length significantly impacts pretty much everything

im always very wary to experiment with length because it basically means starting off from square 1 with tweaking all the sliders

also length increases the amount of practice you need with the weapon

getting used to weight and handling is relatively quick, getting used to length and the weapon's effective range at least for me takes a whole lot longer

when i make a longer hammer i have to deal with a lot of fights consisting of accidentally bashing them with the shaft

[spiral crow]

Ngl I think it's kinda lame that Baron has a beak now instead of his L O N G pollaxe

[lost rover]

Police steady watching me everyday they clocking me red alert everyday they clocking me

[tall dagger]

dead chat in the morning? 💔

[restive barn]

this is half sword

no editing

[fallen glacier]

looks like space engine

[restive barn]

ikr

gimme a sec im fixing the lighting

[deep shale]

this axe i made

[steel isle]

This short has 102% average time viewed but 20x less views than normal. Shameless plug but can yall give it a watch please?

https://youtube.com/shorts/EAMBqzAFhqI?feature=share

[fallen glacier]

hafted is underestimated

[quartz pecan]

do you lose gear when you die in abyss??? i had everything insured

[fallen glacier]

I don't think so. Try restarting

[deep shale]

the stuff you drop in the abyss gets returned to your inventory

[quartz pecan]

okay yeah that fixed it i thought i lost my baron shit lol

[deep shale]

whats the secret to making a good hafted hammer like yours

the axe i posted earlier, its good but prone to that bug with the wrist

[frail veldt]

lmao boxing an armored willie with my fists is more effective than pommel striking them

i hate the state of swords so much

i got fed up with my pommel strikes doing nothing to this dude, i dropped my sword and just started punching him and knocked him out in like 4 punches

[deep shale]

unironically

there is a warhammer in every pair of gauntlets

[frail veldt]

knight tier enemy with a polehammer and targe btw

[dark fern]

how do you do the quote thing

[deep shale]

ping makeitaquote

[frail veldt]

i know this was a while ago but what did you mean by this

at least with swords what is a "dangerous looking pommel"

[dark fern]

looks like max length, mid weight on the grip and then pretty high values on the head?

[dark fern]

pointy?

[frail veldt]

like does this count as pointy

or this

[cosmic hearth]

guys quick question

[deep shale]

i cant ever get a stab with any sort of messer

maybe they're not pointy

[cosmic hearth]

different swords within the same tier are different right?

[frail veldt]

well...yeah no shit

they're not for stabbin

[quartz pecan]

im tryna make a good one handed thrusting sword but its so hard

[cosmic hearth]

like the width of a longsword's blade matters?

[deep shale]

im a owner of a pointy mace and i love thrusts with it

[quartz pecan]

shit never goes where i want it to

[frozen heron]

pointy is scary

[frail veldt]

yes

longsword blades matter quite a bit to the longsword's function

and handling

im pretty sure the messer type choppy ones aren't double edged for instance

[cosmic hearth]

ok im not crazy

lowkey starting to love a thinner blade just because of how much nimble it feels

[frail veldt]

they are much more nimble but also a lot less damage

[fallen glacier]

which one looks better, in terms of quality?

[cosmic hearth]

yeah but im playing the tier with no armor so 1 hit is all it takes to kill

so dmg isnt that important

idk wha's it called

[restive barn]

no editing btw

[cosmic hearth]

it still chops tho

damn i cant post a pic

[frail veldt]

tryna commit crimes against humanity in hte forge rn

[cosmic hearth]

is this free mode?

[restive barn]

https://medal.tv/games/half-sword/clips/mcHUrFp9F3hfiq7AA?invite=cr-MSw0YjgsNDI2NzUzNTE4&v=15

[frail veldt]

theres no forge in free mode so no

[cosmic hearth]

ill keep waiting then

[frail veldt]

you can still use forged weapons in free mode

as long as they're insured

just cant forge them in there

[quartz pecan]

how does the thrust mode on a one handed sword work btw its so strange compared to the EA version

[frail veldt]

pretty sure it's bugged

[quartz pecan]

oh shit actually?

[fallen glacier]

it's different than it was before. When in the right hand it's more of a guard/parry stance. You can stab with it but it's not typical and takes practice. If you swap to left hand it's more of a normal stabbing position

[frail veldt]

yeth

[quartz pecan]

i can manage to stab with it a bit if i just quickly press the thrusting mode button but holding it in the mode is so wonky

[quartz pecan]

thanks

[frail veldt]

do we like this handling or does it need adjustments, chat

[frail veldt]

you hold shift a lot, wouldnt that make you run into problems

[fallen glacier]

not really. It puts you in a better more reactive stance. Sometimes I let off shift depending on what I'm trying to do, such as spear thrusts since shift stance with a spear lets the point down too low. Without it brings it up too high typically so I gotta work with it

[frail veldt]

the stance thing makes a real difference in demo, with the physics the way they are in EA im quite unsure

like im not sure what it would change at all

[fallen glacier]

I've certainly noticed it, personally

can't speak for others

[frail veldt]

what changes have you noticed in particular aside from thrust angle

[fallen glacier]

as I said, in general it's just more reactive. Able to move my feet quicker, ducked down a bit in a better position in case I need to swing low or high

[frail veldt]

dodges are definitely quicker, i dont think you can even dodge without shift

for advancing and stepping into strikes tho i feel like it can unbalance you

[fallen glacier]

fighting in non-shift stance just feels odd. There's no urgency in movement

[frail veldt]

i wish the steps were more controlled rather than just running at em

[proud cliff]

my slash made willie freeze in space-time

[soft wigeon]

my character got hit with a mace and flew into the sky took 10 minutes to fall and died

in abyss btw

[frail veldt]

edge alignment on underhand swings is...interesting

i did notice on polearms and blunt weapons the hand indicator in forge is just straight up lying to you

[cobalt pollen]

How big of a Willy is too big?

[wind charm]

360 jump head kick

[tall dagger]

i knew someone was gunning for my title...

[frail veldt]

just why

[warped apex]

Observe Peak

@tall dagger

Almost finished, Just needs all the subtitles

[frail veldt]

why does willie keep his elbows bent in such a weird way for swings opposite from the hand hes holding

my effective range for left sided swings is significantly lower than right sided ones because of this

like my backswing completely whiffs

when i really think it shouldn't

[wheat leaf]

If yer longsword has a pommel that visually looks like it’d suck to get hit in the head with more than other pommels, it’ll do more damage

Like the square one with three ridges on the bottom, that one’s essentially designed to be used for impact

[frail veldt]

i might make a feedback thread for this because this feels like a serious issue

and no config for the custom mace changes it

[heady cradle]

What's after beating the dude in golden armor in the lord tourney

[wheat leaf]

You do it again

Each tourney gives 1 piece of his gold armor

[heady cradle]

So I can't just loot his corpse?

I did just kinda break his neck in one hit

[frail veldt]

nope

you have to keep grinding it

[wheat leaf]

Look on the bright side, in a game this small it just draws out the progression more so your not done the game in one day

[hollow quiver]

smash?

[tall dagger]

Peaketh thy be!

[mild latch]

best weapon for the beggar tourney??

[hollow quiver]

fists

try to remember some basics of CQC

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-delta-cqc-throw-big-boss-gif-2216711631155490364

[frail veldt]

sickle goes hard

[odd kiln]

pitchfork