halfsword-chat-⚔

[vapid cipher]

Only in brawls

[slow iris]

I'm trying to make it to 1000 days by this year sire

I don't wanna fight like 20 when it's op to just spend 200p

it should not be that cheap

[hazy root]

the economy is weird

[slow iris]

one blinker at a time....

[hazy root]

first few ranks you get paid like $0.20 to murder several people

[misty basin]

but also consider that killing 20 is kinda easy

[hazy root]

and then later you have infinite

[vapid cipher]

The infinite money's for all of your attempts on the baron

[hazy root]

attempts?

pollaxe go bonk

[slow iris]

takes like 4 minutes compared to 7 seconds of clicking

[misty basin]

steal his items always you can grab all of them

[hazy root]

hes saying hes timemaxxing

[misty basin]

ye foshu

[lost rover]

I got myself infinite crossbow bolts from a script some guy made

Love it

I can larp as a special forces soldier

[hazy root]

is that true? i tried stripping him first time i fought him and it wouldnt let me

[misty basin]

nono you need to let him hold all of them to get them

knock out one and wait a bit then another

[misty basin]

only weapons

[hazy root]

oh you mean his sword?

yeah i did that

[misty basin]

truthfully i simply used an insurance scam to make money

fraudmaxing

[hazy root]

its funny to use but impossible cause you're not a 7 foot tall roided out freak of nature

[lost rover]

Managed to land a nasty kirkshot

[misty basin]

use it as a halsfsword only weapon like the 2 stance

[hazy root]

LMAO

[hazy root]

yeah thats what i ended up doing but i like parryin n shit cause im an online larper

[cunning nebula]

why bring a tool to my opponents face when I can bring his face to the fucking fence 😄

[vapid cipher]

you can properly swing all of baron's weapons

it's not the demo anymore

[dark fern]

I should try dual wielding tiny casted maces

[vapid cipher]

Dual wielding greataxes works wonders

[dark fern]

well not necessarily tiny but short one handeds

infinite bonk

[vapid cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-emblem-gba-game-boy-advance-axe-nintendo-gif-20356432

[hazy root]

i have max height and weight and the sword is still floppy for me

[vapid cipher]

Then its a technique issue

[hazy root]

meh, i'd rather have a lighter sword that can do a parry/counter in one motion

[vapid cipher]

I weighed 94 in militia and could still operate the 4kg BFS

It's just that it flops around after your swing, so swap hands after swinging

[hazy root]

reminds me of a funny story

[vapid cipher]

That's the point of not choosing the heaviest stuff available

However it falls off quickly since you'll fight willies in armor

[hazy root]

in the demo, fighting commoner boss, he knocked me over and was doing an overhead swing and i managed to just barely parry it while getting up, but my knee was at an awkward angle so the momentum transfer snapped it in half

coolest shit ever tbh

[vapid cipher]

Lucky you

I could barely block it

[hazy root]

yeah its ridiculously hard

he swings like a truck

[slow iris]

I love using the barons beak!

[hazy root]

thats its special technique

ever heard of king arthur dumbass

jk ily

[vapid cipher]

Happens during spawn but at least...

[pearl ferry]

my favorite shit was dueling the commoner boss in mirror fights

[hazy root]

clean as hell

holy shit

[vapid cipher]

Second to cleaving him in half with the scythe

[dark fern]

they should bring the unique bosses back

[dark fern]

I don't understand why they got rid of them, the tourneys are so generic now

[idle siren]

That guy fucked me up more than any other boss

[dark fern]

there's just one slightly larger guy in each one of them but they're not unique

[vapid cipher]

No mouse buttons challenge

[slow iris]

not difficult enough

[lost rover]

Each day i get sharper

[dark fern]

this is even easier with a warstaff

[pearl ferry]

lmao yea id try so hard to parry him with a smalelr sword and it wasnt very good to me

[vapid cipher]

Plancon isn't properly flexing on these peasants

[pearl ferry]

i miss old abyss

i also miss old greatswords but whatever i just have to listen to people tell me i'm just "balancing my swords wrong" for the next 8 months whenever i complain about swords sucking

[idle siren]

I figured out staying a farmer and just cornering him with a pitchfork was the most consistent strat

[pearl ferry]

yea ofc but i didnt want to be lame i wanted to be a fucken sword saint

[hazy root]

pitchfork was so fuckin busted

[hazy root]

same

[hardy hemlock]

didn't know he could spawn here

[idle siren]

It was yeah

[hazy root]

return my armor or suffer my curse

[restive barn]

hair is so fucking laggy

it made my video card run out of memory

[pearl ferry]

yea i always make my willie bald

idk why the hair needs to be like kingdom hearts 3 tv cutscene levels of rendered

[hazy root]

the hair physics are janky lol

boycotting halfsword until they add jiggle physics to willie's ass too

[pearl ferry]

i thought all the body parts had jiggle physics to some extent

i know his face does

[hazy root]

https://tenor.com/view/emotiboy-joe-joecoin-emoji-emoji-twerk-joe-gif-16554236902662760373

no im talkin this

[sullen wagon]

embed fail

[hazy root]

tfw no rank

CLICK THE LINK MFER 😠

[north gazelle]

So real bro

[lost rover]

I'm lowkey a sharp shot

[sullen wagon]

you might wake the mods

[hazy root]

im personally a bastard sword/1.0kg pavise fan

[sullen wagon]

what'd you throw?

oh

[lost rover]

Crossbow bolt

[sullen wagon]

nvm I'm dumb

[hazy root]

is stuff thats postable from the app itself actually against the rules/

[pearl ferry]

some more clean sword saint shit from the archives

[sullen wagon]

nah I'm just joking that you're saying to click a link

[pearl ferry]

all these 100 hour andys telling me i need to make a valyrian steel sword to fix my wobbly wrists or whatever

[lost rover]

Something's changed with their sword fighting i can feel it

[hazy root]

your technique is clean, i love the hand checks

and yeah i feel like the swords feel a little different from the demo but i'm not sure if thats just cause they made the weapons so moddable

[pearl ferry]

slapping their arms down and then absolutely slapchecking them is my favorite

[hazy root]

i had the arming sword down to a science in the demo

[pearl ferry]

no it's definitely like some weird core change to the way it all works

[idle siren]

I often wonder how people are able to move limbs in a single direction like that. When I try and swing slow or fast my guy just flaps his arms or cuts through the dimensional fabric

[pearl ferry]

i dont really know how to articulate it

[fickle panther]

Sorry to interrupt but I would absolutely love a cheat mode for free mode. Being able to build weapons with any weapon attachments from other weapons and so on and being able to slider change the chars height and weight . I still think free mode should have Tons of options

[pearl ferry]

i just know it's wrong

[north gazelle]

Yeah anyone that doesn't see the issue with current physics has no idea how things work irl, and doesn't seem to be aware of their own capacities either, any valid human being have better wrists strength than the 93 kg max willie, current wrists are like child/senior citizen wrists

[hazy root]

noodly-er?

[sleek mica]

The handling and overall finesse/fluidity doesn't exist anymore

[hazy root]

like your guy doesn't know how to tense his arms

[sullen wagon]

even i can handle things better than willie and i haven't fought a day in my life

[pearl ferry]

yeahhhh

[pearl ferry]

kind of? like, that's just a result of the problem though

or like a symptom

[north gazelle]

Exactly ye, he let his wrists flop around without any strength, like he's losing on purpose

[hazy root]

i've held real swords cause my uncle does restoration for work and theyre not nearly as heavy as even the strongiest willie makes them look

[pearl ferry]

it's something else

[lost rover]

Notha kirked

[north gazelle]

Fr bro, i can picture myself swinging way better and i never touched a sword.

[hazy root]

i love the fantasy trope where greatswords are this huge strength based weapon with a three second windup, meanwhile in real life you're constantly swinging and twirling with the momentum as a zoning technique lmao

[sullen wagon]

I've got a bastard sword that isn't super historical and is probably heavier than a real one and I can handle it more strongly than willie

[slow iris]

fuck the baron doing way too much damage per micro hit

[north gazelle]

Willie acts like the sword weights 20 kg or something

[hazy root]

i have a different uncle who does archery and pulling that bow back is a complete workout, but according to video game logic, melee weapons = strength and ranged weapons = dexterity when irl its the complete opposite

[lost rover]

If you try really hard the crossbow bolt stabs

[bleak frost]

It is basically a mini spear

[slow iris]

it's because every fucking character starts like this for the first 100 days

[hazy root]

gem alert

[bleak frost]

Can't believe that guy is still making books

[north gazelle]

I'm like 70 kg and i know i would swing way better than 93 kg willie tbh

[bleak frost]

Proof

[idle siren]

I go to a bow range weekly, and im shooting 25lb. Im still learning, and hoping to get up to 50lb in the future. There is a guy shooting 45 pound that I see often and he is jacked

[hazy root]

im 67 and i have swung better than real willie lmao

[north gazelle]

Actual 93 kg buffed guy irl would swing very easely 5kg swords

[slow iris]

I wouldn't mind writing a million dollars ever so often

[hazy root]

his bow was set to 50 pound draw, my arms were on fire after a single shot, and i missed.

he had a bowflex and used it every day, absolutely shredded. miss him

[bleak frost]

Yeah. I think he's said publicly thats why he keeps writing

[bleak frost]

what did you just say

[hazy root]

holy fuck...

btw nuclear option player spotted

[pearl ferry]

chad demo willie who can actually use swords

[hazy root]

dap me up

[slow iris]

like how seth mcfarland just reads whatever the hell fox makes them too now he's lost all creative direction with family guy and he literally just doesn't care anymore, the show dies with him

[idle siren]

Yeah games also dont talk about how scary a bow is. Just shooting the bow can strip the skin off your fingers and the string hitting your arm can cause welting and severe bruising. My arm looks like a layered cake of bruises

[bleak frost]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[slow iris]

who's excited for simpsons season 5782????

[hazy root]

mfers had vambraces for a reason

lmao

[lost rover]

This zombie actually looks very aura

Need his fit

[idle siren]

The people who had to shoot bows in the war or just to hunt must have been Mr. Olympian level of strong.

[pearl ferry]

do you think the new update will have better optimization or are they going to start adding random shit that will crash my puter

[hazy root]

braaaaaiiinssssss this is balenciaga btw

[hazy root]

personally it runs fine for me on my old ass PC i think its a specific card/chip/whatever the fuck issue

[pearl ferry]

i have a nutty pc

[idle siren]

I hope we get blue armor. I miss it dearly

[pearl ferry]

it just runs so bad it makes me so upset

[hazy root]

1080ti, intel i7-8700k, 64gb ddr4 ram

i run it on low tho

[sleek mica]

I'm above recommended and it runs quite poorly

[bleak frost]

Goddamn, 64? Sell 32 and make a few hundred

[north gazelle]

Now imagine this with autoguard off

[hazy root]

i got it for free too from a college it class lmao

[bleak frost]

Nice. Pure profit

[pearl ferry]

i love playing with autoguard tbh i think i'vce just gotten used to it

[bleak frost]

There's autoguard?

[hazy root]

whats autoguard?

[bleak frost]

I guess I didn't delve into the settings much

[pearl ferry]

yeah if you hold your sword in front of you willie will automatically move the weapon around a little bit to "block"

[north gazelle]

They will add chrome aliens with 10 million polygons, and full retraycing, standing 1km away from the arena on a mountain

[pearl ferry]

but he doesnt do a very good job

[pearl ferry]

it's turned on by default and i dont think u can turn it off

[sleek mica]

People probably remember auto parry more than auto guard

[north gazelle]

Sometime it really messes up my gameplay lmao, but i agree it's a great feature, especially for newer players, i believe a on/off option would be great

[pearl ferry]

autoparry and autoguard are the same thing? right? it's just when willie moves his hands automatically when youre holding the weapon

that's the "autoguard"

[hazy root]

everyone bitching about all the changes but can we all appreciate for a sec how lock on no longer snaps me to the random guy 5000 miles away behind the dude im fighting

[bleak frost]

My willie definitely doesn't autoguard, and I never noticed a setting for it

[pearl ferry]

fromsoft still hasnt figured this shit out fromslop

[hazy root]

lmao

[sleek mica]

Yeah but everyone calls it auto parry or sometimes passive parry

[pearl ferry]

more like passive move my weapon out of the way so i get hurt parry

[bleak frost]

Doesn't do that, but it'll randomly unlock for some reason

[hazy root]

i haven't had that fortunately

[pearl ferry]

if you let go of m1 it'll unlock you

[idle siren]

Mine still does that :(

[bleak frost]

I've only had it a handful of times. Typically when I'm close to them

[hazy root]

whats your lock on strength at?

[bleak frost]

It happens while I'm holding m1 or m2

[pearl ferry]

i really really like all of the changes but i just cant enjoy them because they all run at 20 fps lol

[idle siren]

I didnt know there was a strength

[north gazelle]

Yeah i mean basically when you're trying to defend or attack a certain way and willie just moves the weapon up or down by himself and then proceed to get hit because of it, kinda like swinging into a invisible force that moved the weapon away

[hazy root]

im just mad i already beat the game and can only get ~4500 souls into the abyss before the inevitable fatal error

[pearl ferry]

i also wish old abyss to be brought back

[idle siren]

It was at max. Where hsould I put it to?

[pearl ferry]

a toggle between zombie and normal abyss would be nice

[hazy root]

mine is a lil above halfway https://i.imgur.com/9Aqet1C.png

i like the zombies

but yeah removing stuff people liked is never good

(in a singleplayer game)

[north gazelle]

I played the abyss a big amount of 1 time, and old abyss countless times, the current abyss is so easy that it became boring for me, and when fully armored it's impossible to die, fatal error is the end of the abyss

[pearl ferry]

zombies still bite through my armor and kill me even if i have full plate?

[bleak frost]

Yeah. When it told me I'd be fighting the souls of those I killed I imagined them as being regular
I guess the afterlife isn't so good after all...

[restive barn]

placeholder black hole asset until i buy a more high quality one

[pearl ferry]

my foot touched a flail and my whole leg broke and then a zombie nibbled on my steel chestplate and ripped my heart out or something

[north gazelle]

The gameplay of current abyss is 2 second interaction with a zombie, then finish him off for way longer on the ground, then move to the next zombie ans repeat lmao

[pearl ferry]

or the zombies just fall down on their own

[bleak frost]

Simply remove their armor to speed up the ground portion

[hazy root]

ive noticed ive been losing legs from stepping on knives less than the demo on that note

[bleak frost]

Don't do that

[pearl ferry]

yeah touching a polearm with your foot is way way wayyyy worse in this version than the old one

[hazy root]

i still AVOID it but it happens

[bleak frost]

I've found stepping on knives incredibly painful

[idle siren]

I agree

[slow iris]

my bedroom window the day after half life 3 comes out

[north gazelle]

That's kinda not the point, i would prefer the zombies to be able to fight, many times they drop their weapons right away too

[pearl ferry]

I fucking hate when a willie has their polearm between my legs but they're already dead and my ankle touches the head of the pollaxe and my whole leg just fucking explodes

[north gazelle]

Old abyss had actual knight coming in pack with bosses for endgame

It was actually challenging

[idle siren]

Whats with the rainbow of colors

[restive barn]

no clue

[north gazelle]

Same

[bleak frost]

I do agree with your overall point. It's way too easy. It's mostly just grueling and repetitive

[pearl ferry]

my stupid ass always tried to get the sweetest drip without covering myself in armor and just using longsword

once the enemies were full plate knights with polearms it was so rough

[north gazelle]

I knoww lmao, i aint fighting if im not dripped out

[hazy root]

i looked at my second monitor for two seconds and an abyss zombie ran up and decapitated me

im blaming you guys

[north gazelle]

I got to 44900 score but eventually even the old abyss feels very repetitive

But i feel like it's better than the current one

I understand the appeal for the current one tho with zombies etc

[idle siren]

The inner ring and the event horizon look clean.

[brisk gazelle]

why'd my guy suddenly go from 94kgs to 80kg?

[slow iris]

5 seconds vs 5 minutes, 10p a soul

too op

[restive barn]

thanks i did the lighting myself

[north gazelle]

You have to eat 3 meals a day to keep your weight

[brisk gazelle]

im serious

is this a known bug

[north gazelle]

Bug vro

[brisk gazelle]

any way to fix it

[slow iris]

I'm serious too, you'll go vitamin deficient if you don't diet correctly ingame

[north gazelle]

I think i've seen people mentionning this bug ye but idk how to fix at all

[restive barn]

it's something called "shadow weight"

[north gazelle]

Gotta get your orange juice each morning at the tavern

[restive barn]

it appears after you directly go to the char selection screen after you wimn a match

[idle siren]

I have also gotten the bug, went into my save and fixed it with a blunt hammer

[north gazelle]

I've seen my weight flickering but it was just visual bug, it goes back to normal when exiting and going back to the chest

[slow iris]

there's also a 10% chance when you drink a water that's tainted and you lose a kg

[brisk gazelle]

lmao i just did that and im 95kg now

crazy

[north gazelle]

Don't drink no water offered by the baron

[slow iris]

you have to drink your water with wine that YOU have to craft to guarantee it's safety

[north gazelle]

There's a guy that got to 99 lol, apparently you can keep going

[slow iris]

the traveling merchant comes every other week

[brisk gazelle]

it did have an effect on my guy tho, last round he struggled with a 3000 gram poleaxe, despite him handling it fine normally, so its more than just a visual bug

[north gazelle]

Bro lost 20 kg overnight

[brisk gazelle]

he just went for a little run

[idle siren]

Pretty sure you would just die if that shit happened

[brisk gazelle]

damn i thought 94 was the max, i got an objective now

[tranquil lantern]

Casual 40 pound loss

[slow iris]

his food had a tapeworm

[tranquil lantern]

His tapeworms had tapeworms😭

[slow iris]

that's why you have to buy the expensive bread

[idle siren]

Literal super worm that kidnaped all his organs and ran away

[brisk gazelle]

how many pfennings?

[sly lodge]

Can u build up your quads

By jumping

[brisk gazelle]

i dont think its as detailed as that, but yes, you can train your lower body by running and jumping (gain more with heavier armor)

[idle siren]

YOU CAN JUMP?!

[brisk gazelle]

hold spacebar

[signal wedge]

incredible pfp

[brisk gazelle]

thank you, i love glorp

[north gazelle]

You too

[slow iris]

110pfennings, 200 on a sunday

[signal wedge]

thank you silly despair silly cat

[north gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-milly-bleh-silly-milly-meme-gif-9742481902338694059

[brisk gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1367176552839643156/1373206894373634108/4x.gif

[spiral crow]

Wait HS got autoguard??

[brisk gazelle]

yuh

[brisk gazelle]

what that mouth do, goddamn

[fallen glacier]

I'm still not certain this is an actual thing. I've asked for clarification from galaxy before and he didn't see the message or ignored or something. Mcwonder doesn't know either but is going to ask Frank when he has a chance.

I've been digging through the internal data of the game itself to try and find out, along with other things. I do think liver shots may be an actual thing since in the Willie_BP.uasset file, which afaik is used for the characters/player character, I found "Liver Pain" but I don't know for sure, I'm not really a coder/game dev just a dataminer

[spiral crow]

Where do I turn it on

I wanna test it out

[brisk gazelle]

with autoguard, you mean the guy automatically blocks an attack, right?

[brisk gazelle]

i dont know for certain either, its been mentioned here a lot so i assumed it to be true

[spiral crow]

If it was that I think it'd be called autoblock or autoparry

Idk what it is so I wanna test it out

[brisk gazelle]

ah my bad, im not sure what you mean with autoguard then

[eternal scaffold]

just hold your sword still in front of you

or if your getting hit with an overhead hold your sword above your head where its facing left or right

[spiral crow]

Is half of the sword okay?

[eternal scaffold]

no dont hold it in half sword

[brisk gazelle]

okay so you did mean what i thought you meant

[fallen glacier]

it does in a way I guess. If you right click to go into half sword, then left click, it will keep your elbows curled so the sword is in front of your chest instead of hanging down at your waist. You don't have to hold the clicks, just click once to switch positions back and forth.

[spiral crow]

[brisk gazelle]

it does work in half sword too

[eternal scaffold]

oh'

[idle siren]

Ah yes manmade horrors beyond my comprehension

[slow iris]

bro I just realized I was missing armor pieces

such an idiot

[spiral crow]

Man I always forget the name of the grip you do when right clicking polearms

[bleak frost]

I wasn't wearing a hauberk for a while lol

[bleak frost]

Halfsword /s

[brisk gazelle]

youre a helldiver sir, you might need to practise your desensitisation lessons more if feet scare you

[bleak frost]

I normally just call it a wide grip/stance

[brisk gazelle]

half pole

holding anything with 2 hands just adds the word half to it

for me

[idle siren]

Alien feet are not in my docket of things to understand.

[north gazelle]

Liver shot is real because i surrendered willies after one tapping them in the chest with a poleaxe (blunt not sharp damage)

It happens a lot actually

[spiral crow]

Imma call it half staff

[brisk gazelle]

thats a good one

[fallen glacier]

half haft I believe

[brisk gazelle]

theyre a key weak spot, seaf manual recommends aiming for them

[north gazelle]

They give up after 2-3 seconds even untouched

[spiral crow]

To be fair any species would be weak in the feet

[brisk gazelle]

i wish choking actually did something, like knock them out or suffocate them

[north gazelle]

You can taunt them and ghey give up eventually

[brisk gazelle]

im weak for feet too

[fallen glacier]

nice. It's pretty weird looking through this file, I found something else called "Angelic Touch" I'm not sure what to make of that

[spiral crow]

By the way I accidentally stabbed the drunk

[brisk gazelle]

yuh, i do that most of the time to get them to surrender quicker. just hold a weapon to their neck and yell ragamuffin

[idle siren]

I tend to burn things down with my flamer or blow them apart with my leveller. Aint no aiming for me

[north gazelle]

It's when you caress willie, then he starts kissing you and you can make out, it's a risky strat tho if there's other opponents around

[north gazelle]

Ragamuffin is the best

[brisk gazelle]

i do not trust people with the leveller anymore
too many deaths at the hands of teammates

[brisk gazelle]

i have seen more competence in my fellow willies than helldivers

[north gazelle]

Actual tears when i saw first person pov

[brisk gazelle]

love at first sight, the world is truly beautiful

[idle siren]

People assumed it would be similar to the ultimatum, when it has a blast more akin to the 500kg. There were... many lost to the dust

[fallen glacier]

shit had me dyin

he even set the lil candle holder beside them all romantic

[north gazelle]

That's one of the best half sword clips actually

[inland jolt]

they're cuddling

[brisk gazelle]

i've had guys shoot at the dropship right above their heads, hit a vox engine when im UNDERNEATH IT, and use it in close quarters 😭 genuinely hopeless

[idle siren]

Too many died on Cyberstan. Honestly the panic I saw in divers was more than I have seen in a long time. Lots of stupid mistakes were made

[brisk gazelle]

it took a while for me to get the hang of it, those vox engines were brutal

still, despite my constant rage, it was fun

[idle siren]

It was chaos at lvl10. The vox engines spawning into each other was horrid. I do think the cyborgs are amazing though.

[brisk gazelle]

the true fear of seeing a smoke grenade land at your feet, knowing a gigantic angry man was running to you at mach fuck was real

[undone wagon]

I heard cyberstan at lvl 10 was impossible from vets

[idle siren]

It was possible, you just couldnt stay in one place at any time. You basically had to death run through the map. Complete the main objective and anything else on the way out. If you got trapped in 1 spot the mission was over

Flags were the worst by FAR

[brisk gazelle]

being a vet just means you saw more events unfold, i joined on christmas 2024, im no vet but i know my way around the game, diff10 was definitely possible, just not without casualties

[brisk gazelle]

agreed, there was no point in doing those. it was a genuine death trap

i loved the mission where you blow up the cyborg fab though

holy shit my guy just got hit on his helmet and the jester wants me to pay 53 pfennings to 'heal' my wounds, dude's straight up robbing me

[undone wagon]

That’s generally good advice though. Never get pinned down because you WILL get overwhelmed

[undone wagon]

With vet i mean, played the game a lot more, not necessarily for longer. I got it around launch but i’m by no means a vet

[fallen glacier]

rest a few times first to heal a bit for free

then heal the rest of the way at lower prices

[idle siren]

Its good to kill certain spawns unless you are able to run. Bugs can outrun you with certain strains, and squids can fly after you. Bots are usually just good to run from though

[undone wagon]

I mean, do what you can, stay on the move, don’t shoot up every single patrol

[brisk gazelle]

ah i see

[brisk gazelle]

im at 26.400 pfennings so its not such a huge deal, i still go to the innkeeper for a lower price though, yeah

[idle siren]

I wouldnt call myself a vet either, I have been playing for 2 years and havent really taken any breaks or missed any events since. But I wasnt around at launch and missed the creek by about a month

[brisk gazelle]

it is to be expected that the jester would charge so much

he is a jester after all

[brisk gazelle]

at that point you can be called a vet, the creek gets way too much attention imo. if you've been playing for 2 years and hadnt taken many breaks, its quite clear you've been playing for a while. im at about 600 hours now, the game is still as good as ever (just wish they fix some of the major bugs now)

[eternal scaffold]

what game are we talking about?

[brisk gazelle]

helldivers 2

[eternal scaffold]

never played it

is it too late to start?

[brisk gazelle]

never

new events always arrive

warbonds arent limited to time

[idle siren]

I dont know I dont like to claim vet status. I only have 820 hours and im still lvl 123

[eternal scaffold]

im just scared cuz i just got into sea of theives and now its starting to die

trust issues

[brisk gazelle]

what difficulty do you play on?

[eternal scaffold]

battlebit was the first game to give me them

[idle siren]

I shift between lvl 5 and lvl 10 depending on how I feel or if the MO is important

[brisk gazelle]

i get that, but helldivers is still as lively as ever. since the latest megaupdate the player count jumped to 200k+ again. it'll slowly go down to 40-80k, but for these big events everyone is back

[bleak frost]

HD2 is at 50k players rn. The devs are really good with pushing updates and continuing the "story"

[eternal scaffold]

i also heard of some sketchy stuff going on on pc with the game

[brisk gazelle]

ah, yeah progression is very slow at lover difficulties. i've only been on diff10 for that reason, and more

[undone wagon]

You simply didn’t know what the creek was like

sips coffee

[idle siren]

Were you there for the invasion of super earth?

[brisk gazelle]

it had huge performance issues a while back, but they spent about a month or two fixing most issues. it runs fine now, and they dramatically reduced the size of the game

[undone wagon]

Oh, absolutely. Dragged all my friends onto that one too

[brisk gazelle]

nah i know it was tough, but people drag it on too much. creekers compare everything to malevelon, they even said "the creek was harder than cyberstan" which is just insane

[idle siren]

It was amazing, The lead up was peak.

[brisk gazelle]

loved the battle of super earth, had to take a long break from squids afterwards lmao

[undone wagon]

Emotionally it was. Cyberstan was mismanaged. The creek was forgotten. Like a surrounded division valiantly fighting to the bitter end. The game was also newer then and the heroic moments where you dodged dipped ducked dived and dodged between robots left more of a mark

[brisk gazelle]

that is true

the game itself was harder back then, the units we faced on cyberstan were more brutal though

[undone wagon]

I think it’s also a bit of larp, people can’t too seriously say it was GENUINELY more difficult than anything else

[brisk gazelle]

helldivers larp 24/7

[idle siren]

Honestly until they fix the blobs going through walls I wont play them again

[brisk gazelle]

same, i wont spoil anything, but they're gonna get some exciting stuff in the future too

for now i just switch between bots and bugs depending how i feel

[tall dagger]

filthy leg strike

[small mortar]

The armoured Cyborgs weren’t really an issue all it took was one Eruptor shot, the ones that ran at you were scary though

[brisk gazelle]

they were so fast and constantly kicking you down lmao

[eternal scaffold]

anyone here play foxhole? its kinda like helldivers in a way

[brisk gazelle]

i know the game, dont got it though

[idle siren]

Oh I love larping in the discord. Im the Khornite Helldiver so I scream at any red star commy clanker I see.

[brisk gazelle]

just beating my willie atm

[small mortar]

They countered my Eruptor by just constantly getting in my face

[idle siren]

The roundhouse kicks were honestly terrifying

[brisk gazelle]

we're gonna face a real 'red star' now that we lost cyberstan, this story is gonna be so peak

[brisk gazelle]

senator had my back for such occasions

[small mortar]

I’m POOR I can’t afford steeled veterans 😔

[brisk gazelle]

yeah i wouldnt actually get it just for the senator, there's better warbonds out there. i just got it with the Super Citizen upgrade

super credit farming is actually super easy and quick though

[idle siren]

It feels like we are getting close to another invasion of super earth. Have you guys seen the straight to hell fan animation?

[small mortar]

Not for me it’s not

[eternal scaffold]

your in the pz server as well? havent played in about 5 months

[small mortar]

The game must hate me or something I’m getting like 1 or 2 credit caches every other mission

[brisk gazelle]

i have not, i couldnt get through it (too 'corny' for my taste, but i get the appeal)

[idle siren]

You can farm them on diff 1, just go around and hit up all the poi and then dip and repeat

[small mortar]

That’s what I do

[idle siren]

fair enough

[brisk gazelle]

there's specific biomes that best for it, they're more open so they spawn more POI's. if you have the warp pack or a friend, you can get in the bunkers too

[brisk gazelle]

i was addicted to that game some time ago lmao, until i got hoi4 and now im in love with that

[small mortar]

The warp pack for grinding it’s so good

[brisk gazelle]

pz is still goated

[small mortar]

Okay I go now bye

[brisk gazelle]

cya

im gonna continue with halfsword, farewell lads

[halcyon canyon]

why are my arms constantly swinging like im holding down both mouse buttons

shit is annoying

[spice wharf]

Photo mode on the demo is weird

I was able to pass out and activate photo mode at the same time, which effectively caused me to get menu storage

I was in the mode select UI but I was still fully controlling my character with my mouse, and photo mode was on top of the mode select UI too

[halcyon canyon]

cant look around properly, can't control my attacks, nothing, because the game always thinks im holding the mouse buttons

[spice wharf]

I managed to get myself killed in that state and the game just didn't know what to do at that point, I was just lying on the floor dead with nothing happening

that was really funny

Hope the EA has that sorted out

[fallen glacier]

@north gazelle speaking of the liver shots earlier, nut shots are definitely real too it seems lol. To the point of there being a left and right ball, if I'm reading this right

[soft osprey]

That’s hilarious. How is that calculated without uh…anything..physically there

[north gazelle]

Whye the right one got one more hp lmao

[brisk gazelle]

poor willie got testicular cancer

[soft osprey]

I don’t think Thats the health amount lol

[fallen glacier]

I'm not sure that's hp just some sort of numerator

[north gazelle]

True

[undone wagon]

Is it known that sometimes (especially in the abyss) your character can start hyperventilating and never gets up again?

[soft osprey]

So this means they’ll add nether regions eventually?

[rigid cairn]

Half sw]

[soft osprey]

Will Willie get a fully modeled Willie?

[undone wagon]

What you want to see the penis you chop off?

[soft osprey]

No comment

[spice pewter]

how do i enable the crosshair

ike in the tech demo

[brisk gazelle]

there is no crosshair

if you mean the lock on, its Z

[spice pewter]

what

OH

its a mod

im a little dumb

[fallen glacier]

possibly lol. I know that if you look inside Willie's guts, he has fully modelled intestines to the point his larger intestine/rectum goes down and connects to the skin where his anus/sphincter should be.

This reminds me one time in the demo I died by getting my genitals cut off with a scythe. I instantly died and it took me a sec to realize how I died

[nimble wren]

lord tourney is so cancerous dude

[bleak frost]

why

[nimble wren]

you fall over and just cant get up because of the three guys including baron just wailing on you

[bleak frost]

do you not hire mercs?

[nimble wren]

forgot that was a function bro holy

[bleak frost]

lmao, happens

Getting to the baron solo is pretty good though

[undone wagon]

Do you not hire mercenaries to help you?

[nimble wren]

ive already done it twice solo

[fallen glacier]

if you can't solo lord tourney with no clothes/armor/weapons, no running, no hit are you even playing the game?

[undone wagon]

Impressive, but it opens you up to falling over and never getting up

[nimble wren]

my barons beak has just spawned in the floor

[bleak frost]

average poleaxe experience

especially with longer/heavier ones

[arctic thunder]

why am i unable to equip vambrace? it doesnt look like i have anything equipped restricting it

[brisk gazelle]

shield on back is the most superior form of protection for falling flat on your face

[bleak frost]

do you have on an arming doublet?

[fallen glacier]

I may have found the value for AI begging for their life with a weapon to their throat, so that's cool. Confirmed to be a real thing at least, it seems.

[fallen glacier]

you need an arming doublet with the chains removed

[arctic thunder]

ohhh

i had the chains on

thank you

[brisk gazelle]

this makes sense, they do surrender quicker when i got it right on the throat. anywhere on the chest or head and they'll try to get up or surrender much slower

[undone wagon]

Yes but as you get up they still love whacking you back down as your head comes up

[fallen glacier]

true. I always hear them beg when I line up my blade to give them a merciful beheading after they've already surrendered

[brisk gazelle]

it is a possibility, but it's still miles better than getting knocked down the moment you try to get up. with the shield you at least have a higher chance of getting away

[brisk gazelle]

nothing like a completely ethical euthanization

[fallen glacier]

sometimes it doesn't always go so smoothly. This is why I try to get them to keep their neck straight, for their sake.

[slow iris]

would you rather fight 5 og pitchfork rioters or 5 mace rioters

[fallen glacier]

I'd rather fight them all at the same time

damn shoulders can get dislocated?

[slow iris]

makes sense

[fringe lagoon]

my dude keeps falling

[bleak frost]

what rank?

and map

[fringe lagoon]

any map and lord rank

ive tried lighter armor don't help much tho

[bleak frost]

odd. I normally only get random falls on forest

you're not getting out of stam are you?

[fringe lagoon]

I don't think so?

gambeson good?

[bleak frost]

it won't allow you to wear certain armor afaik

I wear full armor and don't fall, so I don't think armor is the problem

[fringe lagoon]

hmm

[empty tiger]

Animals in the roadmap?

[long barn]

How do I swap right mouse button to left in regards to my swinging, I dont like using left to swing with right arm

[near grotto]

I dont think you can remap controls as of now

[sharp wave]

is there a potential that multiplayer will be added anytime soon?

[near grotto]

Like online multiplayer?

[bleak frost]

I wouldn't expect it soon

[sleek gull]

#faq

[sharp wave]

eh

just invite some friends over steam yk

online ig

[near grotto]

Not for a long time, if ever

Unfortunately it seems like it'll be the 10,000th indie game that only has couch co-op

[fringe lagoon]

im crashin :(

is it cuz fullscreen

[bleak frost]

probably not

[scenic yoke]

they plan for online multi i think, if not just yeah couch co-op because the physics sim is too difficult

its too bad some games like this that are fighting games ONLY have local multiplayer because it seems like a huge draw

realistically this was never that kind of game tho

[quasi oxide]

guys is it the normal that the abyss enemies do no damage

[warped apex]

I casted him downward

[quasi oxide]

or like close to none

[real void]

a first person user? rare indeed

[slow iris]

day 250

!1

[warped apex]

It's not to rare, Right?

[slow iris]

83kg max stature or 100kg after the bug

[real void]

idk, i don't see an awful lot of people using first person

especially when helmets come into play

[bleak frost]

it's pretty rare. I use it sometimes cause aiming feels more accurate

[slow iris]

you can def gauge your distance better

[bleak frost]

that diving slam with the hammer was pretty sick

[slow iris]

I did beat lord tourney solo with the baron armet in first person tho

[fringe lagoon]

How do I take the barons armor?

[bleak frost]

you gotta win it by winning the tourney several times

[fringe lagoon]

Huh

but I killed him :(

My loot

:(

[bleak frost]

you can't take it off. After you win you'll be rewarded with a piece of it

do it again for another piece

and so on

[grave pecan]

because they cover alot of your vision

there's one helmet that just gives you the smallest eye gaps ever too

i have my baron armet visor gone so i tend to use first person some times cuz it's fun

[coarse urchin]

Can someone recommend me music for playing? bc i cant find any good song

[onyx moon]

big guy

[grave pecan]

i don't like how first person wobbles alot tho

unrealisitc

unrealistic

[bleak frost]

tbf the willies are wearing like 27 kilos of armor

though I agree for when they're not wearing a ton of armor

they don't like to keep their feet in one spot, especially on uneven terrain

[warped apex]

do you mean Parkinson sword

[merry ridge]

beautiful photo

[grave pecan]

i wish first person was a bit better

[onyx moon]

scoundrel getting the medieval submission

[grave pecan]

real problem i see in it is when ur weapon just goes offscreen

irl we can feel objects so it's not a big deal but this is half sword and it's a game

so we cant feel it

[onyx moon]

toss onto the barrel

[coarse urchin]

How to enable frame generation?

[onyx moon]

small incidenzt

[warped apex]

have 30 series or above

[lament bronze]

mastering wrestling is painful but it's so fun

[merry ridge]

bend over

[coarse urchin]

i have 3060 but i still cant use it

[grave pecan]

wig

[onyx moon]

why is he so scared

he keeps screaming

bro scared of the table

[brazen stirrup]

gpu too old

[grave pecan]

the experience

[onyx moon]

he keeps saying HEH HEH HEEEAHHH

why is he so scared of table

[coarse urchin]

the other guy said frame generation works from 30+ series, and i also can enable frame generation in other games

[onyx moon]

noo

i rammed the table into him and he fell

[brazen stirrup]

u can use fsr

not Nvidia frame gen on 3000 series

or use lossless scaling

or u can do what I recommend !! get new gpu ❤️

[merry ridge]

istvan toth average experience

[coarse urchin]

ill get it soon but i cant rn

[tough hollow]

from what ive seen frame generation lowk gets me more delay and stuff

and doesnt imrpoove my frames by much

[brazen stirrup]

ya they are fake frames

[merry ridge]

uhhh

[brazen stirrup]

but good if u have 45 fps and need it to hit 60

[tough hollow]

yea the ai frames are super mushy

and look like paint

[onyx moon]

medieval spanking

[brazen stirrup]

looks like the same to me

[tough hollow]

i can kinda see a difference on the alley map

in day time

and in the cellar

[onyx moon]

sleep tight

[brazen stirrup]

I dont notice at all if just playing normal. If you pixel peep sure you're bound to notice artifacting, but tbh the tech has gotten so good past couple years all I really notice now is just the input delay

[merry ridge]

i swinged my sword at him

[onyx moon]

he got off the bed.

now he gets a chop from hell

[tough hollow]

ye

cool flail disarm

[merry ridge]

oh my fucking god i am saving this one

[onyx moon]

wrong way

[tough hollow]

sent his axe flying

[merry ridge]

he ended up liek this btw

[onyx moon]

my new invention called the bed

what do you think opponent

why is he

arching his back

[merry ridge]

what do you think of THE SLICE

what do you think of my domain expension 😭
did i really have to reference cornball kaisen

[onyx moon]

why are you arching your back

[merry ridge]

STRAIGHTEN HIM

[onyx moon]

cant

hes got permanent spinal problems

[merry ridge]

this is pure domain expansion: forest of the ultralight slicing sword 😭

fucking cornball

(me)

[merry ridge]

CRUCIFY HIM

[onyx moon]

threw a stool onto him

[merry ridge]

🔥

[coarse urchin]

is there a big difference between directx 11 and directx 12?

[merry ridge]

dx12 is laggy dx 11 is good

[onyx moon]

chop to the cheek

[granite basin]

Yo uh, idk where to put this

[merry ridge]

admire my work

[merry ridge]

huh

[coarse urchin]

is this the only difference?

ok

[granite basin]

Someone got into dexter mortgages account

And I can't send images to prove it here it seems

[merry ridge]

who is dexter morgage

[granite basin]

Someone in the server

It's in half's sword images

"Photography"

Scamming piece of shit

I usually don't believe in eye for an eye, but identity thieves shouldn't have any. Cus they use them to steal

[merry ridge]

should i make horrifying gifs and send them here

[onyx moon]

why he fold

[granite basin]

Anyways just trying to warn ppl

And hopefully get him banned or something

[upbeat badger]

is everyone getting extreme lag spikes when someone bleeds?

or is it the trainer mod

[merry ridge]

so basically, your friend probably downloaded cheats or something from a sketchy website a few months ago, the files logged his login info, someone put up the info on the market, some other person bought it, logged into his account and dm'd all his friends with this same copypaste bullshit

[upbeat badger]

enchanced mod

[granite basin]

yeah most likely

[upbeat badger]

im still getting it when its off though

might have messed up my settings

[granite basin]

@rustic plank

[upbeat badger]

but it started when i downloaded it

[granite basin]

thats the guy

[upbeat badger]

what he do

[sudden sleet]

Is there something like a HP regenerating system in this game? Been trying with minimized dmg to NPC. It seems that as long as I cannot knock down npc or cutting down his torso, the NPC will be able to fight normally despite his neck is bleeding like crazy. 🤡

[granite basin]

look in photography

[granite basin]

its there

[bleak osprey]

Five hundred cigarettes

[granite basin]

@little verge idk if this is who ishould text over this sry for the ping but theres a scammer in here

[onyx moon]

pedigree??

[little verge]

#modmail

[merry ridge]

why is his ass bleeding

well the cheeks at least

fortunately

[pearl ferry]

all men are knights and all men are fools

[bleak osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/youngboy-nba-youngboy-handshake-dap-up-dap-gif-24581678

[pearl ferry]

when willies rock your shit so hard your pc's fans kick in

[onyx moon]

bro thought seeing stars were just in cartoons

[high frost]

[lost whale]

i would buy a second copy of early access if this thing came to game... alas it's non historical... but it's so cool

[true rain]

common boss needs to be nerfed bro

[lost whale]

who?

[true rain]

what

[slow iris]

w blood splatter

[slow iris]

use pitchfork if you can't kill him

[true rain]

why?

[pearl ferry]

??\

[slow iris]

because you can't kill him

[pearl ferry]

lol

[true rain]

no i mean like

how is that gonna be any better than a sword

[lost whale]

long

[pearl ferry]

long

[onyx moon]

why cant they make arms break like this

literally twisted

[true rain]

i love demo

i might re purchase early access

[pearl ferry]

its just not the same

[karmic cave]

Can you even kill someone by choking them

[onyx moon]

i might redownload demo

but i love early access

[true rain]

son

[slow iris]

' '>

bro someone needs to make a replay mod

[true rain]

did they make game perform better

[slow lintel]

You cannot, as far as I know!

[lost whale]

maybe choking instead drains stamina

[upbeat badger]

is the Stats n' Money mod safe?

[slow iris]

bro how do I reload a save

[heady quartz]

are some armors just not accessible through the merchant, I havent seen like half ||sword|| the things I can use in freemode at the merchant when im in progression

[onyx moon]

balls

OH MY GOD

[slow iris]

I DONT WANNA DO 260 FUCKING DAYS AGAIN OVER A BLUNDER

THE ONE TIM EI TAKE MY FUCKING ARMOR OFF

[heady quartz]

you didnt insure ur stuff?

[onyx moon]

OH MY GOD

[slow iris]

NO IT'S 260 DAYS OF MUSCLE

[onyx moon]

HES RUNNING AT ME

OH MY GOD

HELP

[heady quartz]

I mean you can just use that one mod that modifies ur stats, or go into the files or something I saw someone edit a numerical value for that too

youll just be slamming chud beggars with 260 days worth of muscle and armor

[slow iris]

OMG

[onyx moon]

bye bye

[remote crypt]

I need someone to explain how this man lost their leg.

[onyx moon]

ate the meanest 2 hande

[heady quartz]

is the stuff thats available in freemode stuff youve seen before in the merchant or is it just like a base set of things

+whatever baron unlocks you have i guess

[onyx moon]

how is this fair

he literally forced me onto the rgound ref

[near garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/despair-dark-mango-psychology-gif-3697906835056466084

[pearl ferry]

what in the super mario bros is this?

[crimson compass]

Just passed 100 hours on the demo 🔥

[remote crypt]

this is even better

[regal iris]

"Think fast chucklenuts"

[vivid lagoon]

perfectly on beat

[wary hull]

is getting the full game worth it rn

[near garnet]

Probably

idk

[wary hull]

for like 25 dollars

[crimson compass]

Not yet IMO

I bought it, played a bunch trying to enjoy it, then went back to the demo anyways lol

The actual combat is better in the demo. EA has better progression, details, and effects but the combat physics and the enemy AI are a HUGE step backwards

Plus EA is still not as well optimized if you don't have a beefy PC

[frail veldt]

i'd say it's worth 25 bucks

though yeah you'd need a good PC for it

[tepid wolf]

looks like you're not the only one lol

[frail veldt]

it's free and it is a different experience lol, hopefully at some point they port the demo gamemodes into the main game

[dire oar]

guys, the game doesn't save

[crimson compass]

Yeahhhhhh. I tried REALLY HARD to enjoy the EA but in its current state it's just not fun for me. Frustrating and dissatisfying.

[dire oar]

how can i fix the saving issue?

[frail veldt]

it'll get there lol, i think it takes a little managing expectations since it might take them a while to fix the things that broke with the new features

[crimson compass]

Yeah they'll probably fix it eventually. For right now I do not recommend it over the demo though.

[dreamy flame]

I enjoyed the EA for what it is, I trust the devs to deliver on their promises and I want to see how they deal with these early issues. Like they said, they plan on doing a larger update for the next one.

[frail veldt]

personally i recommend both to people when talking abt the game, demo is great for knowing if you like the whole concept while EA isn't a bad thing to invest in, it's still fun on its own even if the physics need some fixes

[dreamy flame]

It ran fine on my alright PC, except for slums in like riot or carnage. Weapons feel better in the later game and I had fun with the new weapons and crafting system.

[crimson compass]

Ehhhhhhh I'm not one for 'investing' in games especially when its not guarenteed they actually fix any of this stuff. The devs have made a lot of baffling and (IMO) stupid decisions in the last year developing EA. To be honest I don't know if I trust them anymore to clean up the mess they made.

[frail veldt]

yeah i have a pretty good pc and my frames still slow to a crawl in riots after i've killed a couple peasants

[crimson compass]

I bought it, even just to fork over some money for my demo hours. I'm not playing any more of it till they fix at least the limp wrists, the polearm handling, and the stabbing.

[frail veldt]

i dunno i feel like if you buy any EA game at all you're investing into it, it's kinda the point of EA

[dreamy flame]

My frames only majorly drop when there is a lot of blood

Yeah if you don't understand that the POINT of early access is that it is not the entire game

Then that is on you

Like I am not one to defend games that permanently stay in EA, but this EA quite literally came out less than a month ago.

[frail veldt]

my understanding of EA is you buy an EA game because you:
-think whatever is already there is at least mostly worth the asking price
-like the core concept and trust the devs to expand it properly and deliver on promises

[tepid wolf]

You cant just deflect everything bad about the game because EA, which is what people try to do.
There isn't really any excuse for the performance issues compared to the demo.

[crimson compass]

Look I understand the point of EA. My problem is they are taking the game in a different direction and making stupid dev decisions that call into doubt if they will actually fix this stuff.

Perfect example is the HUGE stamina cost they added to switching sides on a polearm. There is literally ZERO realistic reason switching sides should cost 10x as much stamina as swinging the damn thing. People are claiming they did it to ""nerf"" people abusing the big circle swings though.

It calls into question what tf the devs are doing. Why are we adding in unrealistic things to "nerf" somebody's glitchy playstyle??? I genuinely do not care if somebody else glitches out the physics with it, I just want to be able to chain attacks with a poleaxe normally.

[frail veldt]

nobody is deflecting lol the game has flaws though you shouldn't expect a finished product if you're not paying for a finished product

[tepid wolf]

nobody is demanding the game be perfect. But regressing from the demo is a totally different story

[dreamy flame]

Ok these points I fully agree with, I do trust that the devs have listened to the community and I hope that the next update is that 'new physics' shown in the map.

[frail veldt]

what's your theory on why they regressed from the demo? do you believe it was intentional

[crimson compass]

To an extent it kind of HAS to be intentional.

Your options are either 1) it was intentional or 2) they literally are blind and did not playtest the game even a single time in the last year of development.

It takes all of 5 minutes of booting up the game to point out several MASSIVE problems with it. How this stuff made it past QA is beyond me.

[tepid wolf]

there is no theory behind adding zombies to the abyss instead of normal combat.
there is no theory behind not reverting a change that is universally disliked (limp wrists)
there is no theory, just fact, that the demo runs significantly better.
consumers should be able to expect the same performance a demo shows off lol.

[crimson compass]

I can only imagine that any playtesting happened WAYYYYYYY too late in the dev cycle to really change anything fundamentally.

[frail veldt]

what about the new muscle system may have broken the physics in ways that were unintended but the feature was already promised, they were already under pressure from players and investors because they already had to delay the game once and delaying it more wasn't an option, and fixing what was accidentally broken proved to be a more complicated process than they expected? it's their first game after all

game development takes time and a lot of energy lol, they've shown they intend to work on it and patch the issues that are already there, i don't really agree with the "now now now" mindset a lot of people show when talking about the game

like i grew up playing a whole lot of early access games that were in a terrible state when they went up on the store, or EA games that had a period where something got fucked up and they were shit for a while, in some cases they were never fixed, in my experience at least they were in most cases, you have to look at these releases with a more long term mindset rather than expecting everything to be fixed quickly

[crimson compass]

Right but the original question that started all of this was "Is EA worth my $25 [right now]" and IMO the answer is "No/Not yet"

[tepid wolf]

I grew up playing game demo's on CD.
I can't imagine buying the game and it saying "oh sorry this game cant run on ps1, only the demo can"

but yes in 6 months to a year all this shit will probably be fixed so who cares

[frail veldt]

how often do console games have performance issues at all? optimization is easy when all your players are guaranteed to use the same hardware, PC is a completely different beast

[tepid wolf]

yeah thats why every pc game releases broken and unplayable you're right great deflection

im gonna go byeee

[frail veldt]

sure that's a valid answer though i was moreso having an issue with you saying "the game being in a worse state has to be intentional" what dev would want their game to regress from the demo?

[crimson compass]

My reasonings for why it might be intentional are coming from things like the polearm switch sides "nerf" and the ""high guard"" thing that breaks the 1H stabbing on the right side. These were intentional dev decisions somebody had to go in and code.

[frail veldt]

i wasn't deflecting at all from any points you made bro i think you're just a bit entitled from being ignorant to where the difficulties of game development tend to lie, which is fair given that as a consumer it's hard to be informed on that stuff, arguments abt this arent all that deep

[crimson compass]

I do hope they fix all this stuff, then maybe I can wholeheartedly recommend it.

[feral moon]

The pregnant man emoji is never not funny

[crimson compass]

Right now I bought the game, did not refund it. They can get my money for their work on the demo. I'm not going to lie though I negatively reviewed it for the current state of the combat. I am 100% willing to change it to positive if/when they fix this stuff. So long as the demo combat is more satisfying I will just play that instead.

[feral moon]

The demo is far too stiff after putting 100 hours into EA

[frail veldt]

god damn man there were some stuff here i do think was intentional but you always go to the examples that i genuinely believe are accidents

the high guard thing im leaning towards "this was probably not intended" but i don't really know for sure, it would be bizarre to intentionally make stabbing raise your hand like that, some people in this chat said that they think the 1h thrusting is using the wrong animation and that's what happened, though i personally have no idea, ig to agree that it was intentional i'd have to be shown what the thought process might've been behind making the change

[feral moon]

At least imo. It's not a bad physics model, but I cant help but feel it's super sticky

[crimson compass]

How so? Because you can actually hold your weapon out without it wobbling around like a limp penis?

[thorn crest]

I wonder what the next patch will add

Pretty sure the patch notes said the next update would add new features

[crimson compass]

hopefully adding some bones and ligaments to willie's wrists

[thorn crest]

Honestly a balance focused patch would be great

It would probably also finally get the reviews up to mostly positive too

[tall dagger]

depends on what ur workin with

[thorn crest]

A lot of negative reviews talk about game feel

[wary hull]

not future proofed at all so prob can’t run it

[crimson compass]

My thought process is that it has its own animations, and multiple different stages for those animations. Somebody had to add that in purposefully.

Community is split on if it's supposed to be a "high guard" or if it was supposed to be used for the backwards rondel dagger. As of right now we don't know because the devs have not elaborated on it at all, which doesn't help. I feel like if it was just a bugged/misplaced animation that it could have been fixed easier though and it wouldnt still be in the game.

[wary hull]

if it’s worse performance than early demo

[feral moon]

Well the wobbling is still annoying, but it does allow for more finesse. When I did go back to the demo to get a feel for it again, I couldnt help but think how stiff the physics were compared to EA. I replayed the demo dispell if i felt the handling was me having rose tinted glasses.

But the wrist thing is super annoying, and that's a game issue, not player

[tall dagger]

definitely performs worse. i run it decently but theres some issues for sure

[crimson compass]

performance is MUCH MUCH worse than the demo.

So probably not going to run well for you unless they do a lot of optimizations

[feral moon]

I'm not gonna glaze EA either. There's very clear issues to be ironed out. Im also just bored of the game for the time being.

[frail veldt]

my biggest frustration with the game so far is the lack of communication from the devs, we wouldnt need to speculate so much if they actually told us what was going on but it's mostly radio silence or vague announcements

[tall dagger]

50th repost of the day!

[feral moon]

That's what most every dev does

[frail veldt]

communication is typically relatively sparse but this is particularly quiet for an indie dev, indie games thrive off community building and good communication from the devs since players don't have the security of being able to trust an established company with a big backlog

[feral moon]

Well that mcwonderbeast fellow pops in every now and then here. I think he responds to quite a few feedback threads too.

[frail veldt]

this is just one example but this was a complaint with mordhau too which i've played since release, but even in that case the devs gave us a lot more communication than the halfsword devs are, frequently posting clips and screenshots of WIP, the small dev team was extremely active in the discord with giving behind-the-scenes details and were a lot less vague on what they were planning and prioritizing

[frail veldt]

yeah those posts from him are relieving, i just wish there were more of them and they were more detailed

[crimson compass]

This is again why I'm leaning towards some of it being intentional. Some of it they have come out and said it's bugged/being worked on like the wrists and the performance. The stuff they are choosing to stay silent on has me worried, not going to lie.

[feral moon]

But seeing how gamers can be, if I were an indie dev, I'd err heavily on the side of caution of talking to my community

[frail veldt]

when mordhau devs started struggling with keeping up with informing the players what they had their community manager do is post monthly threads on what the team was actively working on and the threads doubled as feedback threads on the game's subreddit, think the halfsword devs might benefit from doing the same

[feral moon]

It's not helpful development or mental health wise to read the same angry messages about performance and glitches

[frail veldt]

yeah it's not, that's why you usually just have the community manager do it

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mordhau/comments/pjqyxm/weekly_feedbackdiscussion_97_913_patchie_edition/

heres an example of one of those threads, not terribly long, the community loved this, would personally love to see the halfsword team do something similarly, they just had the CM listen in on dev meetings before writing these

[vocal obsidian]

Do the devs even listen? Pretty sure the wrist has been a problem for a while now, yet nothing has changed.

[feral moon]

As much as people like this sort of thing, I think it's best not to oversaturate the community and rather just post when there's actually something important to say. I'm quite on the cautious side when it comes to speaking professionally.

[feral moon]

I suspect there's major things breaking in a domino effect applying a fix so trying to iron that issue out causes several more

[deep shale]

shocking to see mordhau mentioned in half sword

[feral moon]

Is it? They're a pretty natural comparison

[crimson compass]

Yeah people have been telling me "limp wrists will be fixed next update relax!" for like 5 patches now.

[deep shale]

i got 2.5k hours in mord. but haven't played the game since like 2020

[frail veldt]

1.5k for me but i've been playing on and off since release

[tall dagger]

is mentioned atleast 3 times a week

[vocal obsidian]

Exactly.

[tall dagger]

yeah but "people" know about as much as you or i do

[frail veldt]

pretty much anything you see here about future patches thats not from the team themselves is just speculation

[vocal obsidian]

Which are always wrong, unless the speculation is optimization.

[deep shale]

we need challenge speculating

[vocal obsidian]

Which by the way still isn't on point, The Slums is still crazy unoptimized.

[tall dagger]

slums is rendering so much bullshit all at once for no reason 😭

[frail veldt]

waiting like a week for some big bugs to be fixed, seeing the game updated with the words "blood hotfix" underneath damn near gave me an aneurysm

[vocal obsidian]

Yes, we don't need a full forest view in the background.

[tall dagger]

only get to play on a 20th of the map like....

[deep shale]

i do not care about the blood, personally
yet here i am, playing the game which is priding itself on revolutionary gore

[feral moon]

It's why I stopped coping and playing. Just being patient and doing other shit.

[vocal obsidian]

Yeah I was so disappointed as well, it took so long but only so little came out.😭

[tall dagger]

meanwhile...

[vocal obsidian]

Next patch is "Optimized the shit stains in The Slums, which wasn't the problem in the first place".

[frail veldt]

next patch dropping in 2 months

Patch notes:
"-removed book from slums map to help optimization
-enemies will now call the player 'hedgeborn' a little less
Thanks for the patience guys, we appreciate your support!"

[tall dagger]

"optimized eye textures on the horses eyes in the forest"

[vocal obsidian]

Hell yeah big update guys

[frail veldt]

"fixed a broken mesh on the slums UFO"

[tall dagger]

"added barely visible airplane 30,000 feet in the sky on slums"

KCD ripoff easteregg lol

[vocal obsidian]

Do people still defend this game? I got it that they defended it at launch but I mean cmon... Almost a month for blood optimization isn't great.

[tall dagger]

i love this game and will defend it til the day i die

still like to poke fun at the issues tho

[vocal obsidian]

I like it too but people get butthurt when you mention the issues in this game.

[frail veldt]

i'll defend it night and day but as long as i get to also bitch endlessly when im the one mad

[hidden schooner]

So theres a burger in vegas

[tall dagger]

theres burgers everywhere .-.

[vocal obsidian]

All they gotta do is watch one review of the game and fix all the issues mentioned, boom, they have a game.

[deep shale]

new update
1000 blood optimizations (looks the same as before)

[hidden schooner]

last name is borger

burger?

[tall dagger]

..

[frail veldt]

oh mother's feeding us well with that one

[tall dagger]

is this some kind of reference or are you on something? 😭

[vocal obsidian]

New update: moved the chandelier one centimeter.
New issue: the game doesn't fucking load anymore.

[hidden schooner]

#memes-🤣 message

[frail veldt]

this is basically what happened with polearms

[tall dagger]

reduced zombie bite force by .001%
but the game crashes every time you load up slums

[sleek mica]

Breaking the core gameplay whether unintended or not is pretty bad

[deep shale]

i remembered when helldivers did updates, and they had a "known issues" list. and every update, the list would just get bigger

[frail veldt]

at this point these resemble sims 4 patch notes more than halfsword

"fixed a minor bug with the skybox"
half the playerbase can no longer load into the game at all

spaghetti code is truly a beauty to watch unfold before your eyes

[main venture]

Just me or ever since the blood optimization update, the blood actually gives you worse fps faster?

[frail veldt]

changing willie's wrists to be 5% stiffer, now his ankles no longer support his weight while wearing armor

[tall dagger]

just you.

[vocal obsidian]

I know right? Like the blood patch just made my average fps go down by twenty. What? Why? I don't know because I have blood off and it shouldn't affect me, but it does.🤷‍♂️

[frail veldt]

kinda happened to me too

[main venture]

💀

[jovial basalt]

I want swinging to be less of a gamble tbh

[vocal obsidian]

And do they even check the feedback channel? When have they even implemented something from there?

[jovial basalt]

Performance first and all, yeah, but I dont want noodle wrist

[deep shale]

my dad is demanding a feature where you can snap the shafts of polearms to shorten them

[frail veldt]

first lets make walking less of a gamble

[jovial basalt]

That too lol

[deep shale]

because and i quote "this thing is too big to swing indoors, and its what i would do"

[jovial basalt]

Maybe its the way I play but very often my willie will like kneel down to the ground when switching guards and trying to move at the same time, its probably how im moving and swinging but idk

[frail veldt]

im pretty sure it is quite hard to break a polearm shaft in two

it's not exactly just a stick

[jovial basalt]

It would be cool if weapons could break

If done right

[frail veldt]

in the current state of the game? please no

[jovial basalt]

Ye lol

[vocal obsidian]

Fatal error on the main menu.

[deep shale]

im a fan of weapons breaking when there's a benefit

[vocal obsidian]

If that was put in the game.

[deep shale]

like having your longsword break inside an enemy results in a guranteed critical hit (if we were playing an RPG)

[frail veldt]

first make it so my willie actually maintains his grip on weapons THEN we can discuss if we wanna add durability

rn if your willie lets go of his polearm during a fight (he will btw) you can kiss that thing goodbye

it's long gone

[deep shale]

should be cosmetic/aesthetic if anything
like how armor becomes dented

[frail veldt]

personally i think they should start patching the game like the dead by daylight devs do, that is each patch just makes the game progressively worse until the playerbase develops stockholm syndrome and gaslights themselves into thinking it's better

[jovial basalt]

I want this game to be amazing

Its like nothing ive ever played personally, and it scratches that medieval itch

I also just absolutely love swordplay, longswords are by far my favorite weapons to use

[deep shale]

i want to love longswords but fighting armored opponents in the current game is kinda hard

there's gotta be more elegant solutions than just pommel strikes

[frail veldt]

anyone else thinks pommel strikes kinda feel awkward in EA? in demo i was boxing them with that thing but in EA its so awkward

[jovial basalt]

I wish you could hilt strike

I was kinda surprised hilt striking isn't in the game tbh

[frosty musk]

is there any upside to being short?

[jovial basalt]

Mordschlag or whatever they call it

[frail veldt]

r/explainlikeimfive ahh question

also the answer is probably not

[frosty musk]

well that wasnt very nice

[frail veldt]

i didnt mean it like that 🙁

[frosty musk]

ah its fine i dont really care :D

[frosty musk]

oh this guy cares tho

[pearl ferry]

being short is cool

aura and that's it

no other benefit

[frosty musk]

idk i think its more aura to be towering over ur enemies

[frail veldt]

definitely more aura to beating them as a short king

[pearl ferry]

something something david and goliath

[deep shale]

its aura to be of average size, and to pummel both ends of the spectrum

[frosty musk]

kinda wish you could unlock the barons height after u beat him and steal all his stuff

[gray vigil]

2x the fun

[frail veldt]

this felt sick

[gray vigil]

Well we have the save files for that.

[proud cliff]

I got that good willie slice today

[frosty musk]

true, however id like to do it without having to go into the files yknow?

[sharp orchid]

folk

[pearl ferry]

clip from the archives #2

[gray vigil]

Sure

[pearl ferry]

whenever the knight has an open faced sallet i do the speed smile

[frosty musk]

I FOUND THE UPSIDE TO BEING SHORT

[deep shale]

i want to edit pre-existing weapons so bad, just to see some of their statistics

[frosty musk]

IT ALLOWS YOU TO BE A LOOT GOBLIN MORE EFFICIENTLY

[frail veldt]

this was just gnarly

bro got his throat sliced open and slowly bled out while still trying to fight back

[scenic yoke]

peebus

[deep shale]

im holding in my hand the most average hafted axe in the realm, but this thing hits like a wave of destruction. every half-assed swing i throw comes with bone shattering applause

[pearl ferry]

sometimes the willie doesnt even realize they were stabbed before they drop it's fucken sweet

[frail veldt]

average pre-existing weapon moment

[sharp orchid]

I tihink hes a little suprised

[frail veldt]

bro found axecalibur

probably on some random willie too

[sharp orchid]

close enough ig

[frail veldt]

the fuck is that

[deep shale]

a boxing glove

[frail veldt]

i still havent figured out how to aim thrusts properly

and whenever i post about it in this chat i usually just get "well you kinda can't rn sorry bro"

[pearl ferry]

mix it up with double click or alt

you can its just not the same

[frail veldt]

like if you scroll up to some of my spear clips my willie is just thrusting to the side for no reason

but if i enter halfsword stance with it it's significantly more accurate

[river sable]

You think they're gonna add more thrusting specific weapons

[soft osprey]

Thats how you do it accurately

Thats the only way

[sharp orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043854764095582260/1476399540428079267/MedalTVHalfSword20260223230538004-tr-edit-1772071426-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[frail veldt]

well yeah super accurately but i still wanna know how to thrust directly straight instead of it flying off somewhere

[river sable]

I'm praying on rapiers sometime soon

[soft osprey]

Yeah unfortunately Thats what i mean. The only reliable way to thrust is in halfsword stance, otherwise it’s just way too unpredictable and not nearly sturdy enough

[pearl ferry]

halfsword stabbing with super long weapons is way more accurate yeah, the alt stab is more for like checking people/lucky stabs at the moment because every willie is a limpwristed fool