problem with lum helldivers2

[ivory stream]

Game lum is maxed out and also pc lum

Using hdr seems normal

[native ingot]

this only happens with helldivers?

[ivory stream]

Yes, if i turn HDR on it is ok

Then I’m also noticing unstable FPS, should I put a base value like 20?

[native ingot]

if u think thats playable for u yeah.

[ivory stream]

Another thing

Place it on 72

And steam is ok

[native ingot]

bro i dont speak pasta

[ivory stream]

72FPS max output as photogram

[native ingot]

ah ok

[ivory stream]

When I start the lossless

It autocap at 40

[native ingot]

whats ur refresh rate?

[ivory stream]

144hz

Then also steam cap to 40

[native ingot]

the same happens with 2x?

[ivory stream]

48 with x2

Alzo steam fps

[native ingot]

If you limit the FPS to 72, does enabling 2x automatically limit it to 48?

[ivory stream]

Yes

Exactly

48/50 but yes these fps

[native ingot]

I recommend trying to limit the FPS using RivaTuner to see what happens.

[ivory stream]

Tryn

[native ingot]

what?

[ivory stream]

What u suggested me

[native ingot]

use RTSS to cap ur fps

[ivory stream]

Try it but it crash

Don’t k ow what happen

Cap it to 30

Selected only for lossless app

Enter the game, open the program al freeze.

Now I will uninstall everything

[native ingot]

the lossless or rtss?

[ivory stream]

Lossless seems not work well

[native ingot]

bruh did u capped fps for lossless?

[native ingot]

I don't know who asked you to do that, but I think selecting lossless there is pointless.

[ivory stream]

I have to select the game i wanna play right?

Someone told me this and I can’t see the point but this is not my best understanding matter

[rustic kelp]

you’re not listening to people’s advice and then complaining what a joke

just limit the game fps

it’s that simple

[ivory stream]

Is one hour I’m telling u people, I’m new to those things and u continue tell me I don’t listen, maybe if someone explain, i’ll listen

[native ingot]

nope, the RTSS auto detect that

[hardy chasm]

I bought LS over a year and a half ago and I've been having trouble setting it up, what should my sync mode be if my FPS limit is 144 and capped with RTSS at 142?

Its currently on Off (Allow Tearing), Frame Latency 1, with g sync support on and DXGI (1440p)

[ivory stream]

After doing that it works fine

30/90

[native ingot]

if u wanna use fg x2 for ex: u need to set the frame limiter at 72 fps

[hardy chasm]

Helldivers 2 and Elden Ring both run at what looks like a "Higher framerate" But latency and performance feel worse then with it off

[native ingot]

ur configs are good actually

[hardy chasm]

Okay, I figured FL 1 was fine and the other settings were default. Is tearing Off okay as long as I limit my FPS?

[native ingot]

is the input lag too big?

[native ingot]

yup, and i do recommend to set at allow tearing, cause of lower latency

[ivory stream]

I play with controller, nothing to notice about

[native ingot]

ah ok

tbh i can play 15 to 60 fps with a gamepad

its kinda playable for offline games

[hardy chasm]

Good to know. Would an i7-12700F and RTX 4060 Ti be able to run X3 well assuming the GPU isnt too busy? I'm worried that Helldivers 2 is gonna gimp me with CPU usage

[ivory stream]

I only play HD2 from pc

I’ve xbox for the rest

I just changed 32gb ram and super fast ssd

I’m not noticing input lav

Lag

Max latency for photogram in set to 1

[native ingot]

ur gpu its good as fk, and since you're playing the game at 72 FPS natively, the CPU is running smoothly.
so yeah u can run at 144 fps without any problem

[ivory stream]

Sync is set to predefined

[native ingot]

try to allow tearing for better experience

[hardy chasm]

Cool, so 72 for x2 and 48 for 3x?

[ivory stream]

Hdr on

[ivory stream]

Will test it thanks

G sync support off

[native ingot]

yup

[hardy chasm]

The game runs okay just worse then without framegen at roughly 90FPS native

Should I expect better results or just comparable?

[native ingot]

Are you using the FPS counter from the LS ?

[hardy chasm]

Yes, but for some reason it isnt showing up when I play Helldivers 2

Im in fullscreen as well

[native ingot]

try it on borderless

[hardy chasm]

around 55-60/110

but the fps counter came back and its noticeably smoother

[native ingot]

55 native fps to 110 generated, for better experience( and more stable) cap the fps at 45

[hardy chasm]

But still not really as smooth as 90FPS native

[hardy chasm]

Lemme test, thanks

[native ingot]

Thats more a matter of personal preference.

[hardy chasm]

Wow, 45FPS at X3 is fairly smooth and 100% an improvement in the lobby

Am I able to experiment more and increase my FPS to around the 45-50 mark until it becomes unsmooth? Or is 45 a certain ratio/divide that is smoother?

[native ingot]

it because of gpu overload

u need to be careful about that

[hardy chasm]

Good to know. 48/143 and its fairly smooth. Will test some gameplay and see if it holds

[native ingot]

u can also do a upscaling to lower ur gpu usage

[hardy chasm]

LS1 any good at 1440P? Maybe around a 1.7 scale factor?

[native ingot]

put ur resolution at 1080p, scaling mode at auto-aspect ratio

i think this way the game doesn’t lose quality.

[hardy chasm]

Ah I gotta change it ingame like DLDSR? Sounds good

[native ingot]

dldsr its a downscale technique, I don’t know much about it

[hardy chasm]

1440p to 1080p upscaled looks almost identical but noticeably worse, but drops GPU by almost 20%, which is very impressive

[hardy chasm]

Ah yeah, the only comparison is that it requires the games resolution to be adjusted, unlike DLSS which does it automatically

Thanks for the help, I'm gonna do some tests and see if its better than 90 native. Much appreciated

[native ingot]

Well, with that performance, I think you ll be able to maintain the same FPS throughout an entire game

[pearl mortar]

anyone else just have their screen freeze mid combat in this game?

[ivory stream]

This was what i was typing

If u reduce to window u see you are in game stand while thing happens

But u are non able to do nothing

[native ingot]

Doesn't this happen in borderless mode?

[ivory stream]

Yes

Now i’m tryng X2 instead of x3

Nooe

Does’t work

I’ve to disable it

[native ingot]

put the scaling mode at auto-fullscreen

[pearl mortar]

still having the freezing issue

i keep having to restart my pc

[ivory stream]

It was alteady like this unfortunately

This has to be off?

[native ingot]

there must be some overlay conflicting with LS; it's neither Lossless nor Helldivers 2's fault.

[native ingot]

In my experience, that doesn’t change anything in this situation, but you can try it.

[pearl mortar]

like discord overlay? cuz that's disabled for me

[native ingot]

Don't you have any others open?

[ivory stream]

All overlays are disabled

[native ingot]

Unfortunately, I dont have Helldivers to check what the problem is. Try testing another game to see if the issue is actually with Helldivers

Its the only thing I can think of for this problem.

[ivory stream]

As the issue happens, I force close Lossless and it works

Unfortunately I onlynplay HD2 from pc

[native ingot]

what a shame you cant use it in helldivers 😕

[ivory stream]

Yeah that’s so unfortunate

Maybe a future update… when it works it works good but then….

[pearl mortar]

nope

[pearl mortar]

other games freeze as well

[native ingot]

And it crash too?

[pearl mortar]

yea

[native ingot]

do u have a igpu?

or another gpu in ur pc?

[pearl mortar]

frame doesn't quite work as intended as well usually it causes more lag

idk i just have a gtx 1650 super

[native ingot]

whats ur processor?

[pearl mortar]

ryzen 7

3700? i forgot the exact number something along those lines though

[native ingot]

just go to ur task manager and there is ur cpu name

[pearl mortar]

i am currently not home

but i believe it's 3700

[native ingot]

ok np

[native ingot]

Okay, so it turns out it's not the problem I thought it was.

maybe its the capture api

[pearl mortar]

hm alright and is it normal that frame generation causes more lag than what it's supposed to do with my specs on this game?

[native ingot]

ur PC can run it without problems as long as the FPS are limited. I believe there’s a weird issue we haven’t identified yet.

[pearl mortar]

i do have rtss capped on 68

i haven't tested it this update but i did run into a weird bug that made frame generation cap at 68 too but maybe i was fiddling with the settings too much

[native ingot]

maybe thats too high, usually 1650 super run the game at 65-70fps at 1080p low ig

[pearl mortar]

alright I'll give that a go

[native ingot]

u should try older versions

[pearl mortar]

alright will do thanks

[native ingot]

Let me know for any info about the issue

[pearl mortar]

sounds good

[ivory stream]

I’m sorry but I’ve done refund on the software… it force me to close it each time in order to play just speak about HD2. I really, really hope in the near future I can buy it again and enjoy max fps on the game. Thanks for all the support u gave me

[ivory stream]

Guys I re buy it coz wanna have do it a chance to work