Ls reducing fps and making it very laggy | Lossless Scaling | Page 1

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 12:51 PM

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this is in mw3 reducing my fps
also tried it on my flying sim (microsoft flight simulator) huge diff from like 50 fps to 2 or 5 DXGI
i use hdr 2560 x 1440
i'm not having the issue where it works on one monitor and the other it dosent it just dosent work at all.

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 12:55 PM

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What's the refresh rate of your monitor?
LS Frame Gen can't go above your monitor's refresh rate anyway

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:26 PM

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compact narwhal What's the refresh rate of your monitor? LS Frame Gen can't go above your monito...

165

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:35 PM

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That means without frame gen you are already above your max refresh rate. So it wouldn't really make a difference

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:40 PM

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compact narwhal That means without frame gen you are already above your max refresh rate. So it ...

wait i'll show u my issue

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it says that it's giving me 165

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but it dosent feel like 165

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:44 PM

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Are you capping your game's FPS?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:44 PM

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it also sometimes feel a bit laggy when i move

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:45 PM

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compact narwhal Are you capping your game's FPS?

no

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:45 PM

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You should

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:45 PM

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should i cap it?

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on 165?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:45 PM

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You should cap it at a FPS that you system is able to maintain

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:45 PM

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like my monitor refresh rate?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:46 PM

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Not necessarily
When you play the game look at the FPS
If your FPS is at 45-60 for example then cap it at 45 since your system can achieve that value constantly

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:47 PM

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look like now for example

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when i turn on the mod

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it's slower

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than before

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:47 PM

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I understand that

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But do what I say please

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:48 PM

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and the problem will be solved?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:48 PM

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I can't promise it but if you don't cap your FPS you are not using the app right

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:48 PM

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alright so i'll cap it on 60?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:49 PM

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Because currently with Nvidia cards you cannot use Gsync with Lossless and going above your refresh rate will result in weird issues

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:49 PM

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paper kraken alright so i'll cap it on 60?

If your system can constantly maintain 60 FPS, then yes

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:49 PM

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okay

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:49 PM

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Then set Frame Gen to x2 instead of x3

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:49 PM

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okay

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:50 PM

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If your game says 165/165 even if you cap your FPS then that means it's not detecting the game's FPS but your desktop's instead
Which is a bug a lot of people have in the current LS version

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:51 PM

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what should it say

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:51 PM

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If you use x2 Frame Gen it should say 60/120

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:51 PM

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compact narwhal If you use x2 Frame Gen it should say 60/120

60 which is its capped on correct?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:52 PM

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Yes
60 is your actual FPS and 120 is the generated one

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If you wanna go for your full refresh rate I'd suggest trying out 55 FPS cap at x3

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:52 PM

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compact narwhal If you wanna go for your full refresh rate I'd suggest trying out 55 FPS cap at ...

alright lemme try this and i'll be right back with u

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do u recommend doing full or no?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:54 PM

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I personally recommend adjusting your refresh rate to your FPS if you can

So if you can reach 60 FPS I'd suggest setting your monitor to 120 Hz instead

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:55 PM

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let me try putting it to 55 and i'll put it to 45 instead of 60 and i'll tell u how it goes

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:56 PM

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If you set it to 45 then you'll need to set your monitor to 90 Hz (for x2) or 135 Hz (for x3)

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:56 PM

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compact narwhal If you set it to 45 then you'll need to set your monitor to 90 Hz (for x2) or 13...

like change the monitors refresh rate?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:56 PM

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Yes

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For perfect frame pacing your FPS needs to be 1/2 or 1/3 of your refresh rate
Or your refresh rate needs to be x2 or x3 of your FPS

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This wouldn't be an issue if VRR would work with Nvidia cards but so far it only works with AMD/Intel.
So we have to do it that way

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:58 PM

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if capping didn't work ig that's the only thing i can do

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:59 PM

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What do you mean?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 1:59 PM

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yk the issue with the sim that fps is not stable it depends on the plane or airport so sometimes it's 60

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sometimes it's 45

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sometimes it's 25

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 1:59 PM

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Yes that's why you have to set your FPS to the minimum you can reach

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:00 PM

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that's what people are doing on youtube

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there capping it to 45

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:00 PM

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It's system specific though
You have to find out for yourself what works best

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You can look up more in #📖⏐information

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:03 PM

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yup got that issue u we're saying

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it's also not that smooth now

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:05 PM

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compact narwhal If your game says 165/165 even if you cap your FPS then that means it's not dete...

so what now?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:05 PM

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What works for me:
Either click on the desktop shortcut in the bottom right corner of the task bar and then click the game's icon again (however on multiple screens that will cause discord on my second screen to disappear too and when I click on the discord icon to get it back it sometimes will read my desktop's FPS again)
Or while ingame press CTRL+Shift+Escape to open task manager while the game is running in the background and then close the task manager again (a bit more inconsistent solution, the above one works consistently for me)
You can try the lower solution either while LSFG is already active ingame or do the solution first and then activate it

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Doesn't work for everyone unfortunately

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In both cases make sure that you do the solution first and then activate LS

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:08 PM

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what if i disconnect my 2nd monitor

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:08 PM

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I mean you can try that

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:10 PM

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still

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165/165

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but my question is

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is it working at least?

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like even if it boosts my fps a bit

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:11 PM

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If it detects your desktop FPS then it's not correctly working
You won't really benefit from it this way

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:13 PM

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yeah nvm

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it's not detecting

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it's also giving me less fps

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so if i didn't use it i'd get more fps

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:15 PM

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Can you try putting the game on your second monitor and outputting Lossless to your first?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:17 PM

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compact narwhal Can you try putting the game on your second monitor and outputting Lossless to y...

i can't my other monitor is a 1920 x 1080 and my main 1440

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plus i have it sideways

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:18 PM

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Oh
It would just be a way to see if it works

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:18 PM

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okay lemme see

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:18 PM

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I sometimes have weird flactuating FPS with Lossless but putting the media to my second monitor and outputting to my first fixes it

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:20 PM

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it worked

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☠️☠️

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compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:20 PM

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lol

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LS is weird at times

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How does it feel?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:21 PM

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much better

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ngl wayyy better

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:21 PM

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Yeah now it's working properly

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:21 PM

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so what now

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i need to play like this?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:22 PM

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That's a good question haha

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:22 PM

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compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:22 PM

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paper kraken i need to play like this?

Oh no wait

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You were meant to output the game to your first monitor

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In here

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:22 PM

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i did

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:23 PM

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If you did then you wouldn't have to play sideways lol

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:24 PM

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compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:25 PM

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So if you put the game on your second monitor and output Lossless to you first it detects the FPS wrong again?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:25 PM

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no

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its detects right

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and works fine

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but if i did the opposite

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it dosent

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:26 PM

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But if the first thing works why is it bad?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:26 PM

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rn it dosent work

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:27 PM

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The thing that's weird is

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Both of your screens should show the game

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:27 PM

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rn works 0 issues

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so basically main monitor dosent detect 2nd monitor detects

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there all 165 hz

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:29 PM

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compact narwhal Both of your screens should show the game

Do you know what I mean with this?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:29 PM

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compact narwhal Do you know what I mean with this?

u want me to stretch them

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?

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:29 PM

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No

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:30 PM

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then

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:30 PM

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If you put your game on monitor 2 for example
And output to Monitor 1 with Lossless
It should show the game on Monitor 2 with your normal FPS and on Monitor 1 it should show the game with your generated FPS

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:31 PM

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bro ngl my brain is so confused rn

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so what should i do

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u tell me and i'll do it

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:31 PM

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First:
How do you activate Lossless? Do you press the shortcut or do you click on scale and wait 5 seconds?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:32 PM

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hotkey

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:32 PM

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That's good

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:32 PM

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tried from the app and the 5 sec thing

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didn't work

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:32 PM

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I don't recommend doing that anyway
Hotkey is fine

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I just meant if you put the game normally on your second monitor
And have your first monitor selected in Lossless settings as the output monitor
And then click on the game and press the hotkey
It should show the game on both screens

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:34 PM

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lemme try

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worked great with my main monitor now

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but i can't fly like this 😭😭

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Oh lol
I did mean that yeah but I didn't expect it to look like that

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:35 PM

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compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Is it working like that at least?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:35 PM

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compact narwhal Oh lol I did mean that yeah but I didn't expect it to look like that

it's bc my other monitor is sideways

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:35 PM

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compact narwhal Is it working like that at least?

yeah

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:36 PM

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I just wanted to see if it works in the first place
Yeah I don't really know. Lossless 2.9 is a bit weird

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:36 PM

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but the issue is i disconnected my other monitor

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and tried

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:37 PM

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And then it doesn't work, right?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:37 PM

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correct

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:38 PM

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Hm yeah it's strange
Do you have multi-display mode active in LS?

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:38 PM

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yes

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should i try disconnecting my monitor and the multi display thing too?

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cz i didn't disable it

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when i turned off my monitor

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compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:40 PM

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It's pretty much trial and error

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I had to figure out my personal fix (the desktop and task manager ones) too

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:41 PM

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so no fix

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now the issue is that it's not detecting

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Yeah
I hope it will be fixed in the next version

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:42 PM

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when is the next version releasing

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:44 PM

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I wanna know that too lol
We can't do more than be patient
And especially don't bother him

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:48 PM

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bother who

compact narwhal Jun 20, 2024, 2:48 PM

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ths
The developer

paper kraken Jun 20, 2024, 2:49 PM

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oh

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alright ig

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thanks for the help

#Ls reducing fps and making it very laggy