struggling with ac origins

[grizzled jetty]

when i run ac origins my screen turns black on borderless fullscreen and it hurts performance more than with it off

[wide bane]

Have you tried other games?

Iirc some assassin's creed games didn't work nicely with it.

Try windowed if anything

[grizzled jetty]

i tried fallout 3 and whenever i turned it on one the resizing wasnt working

two frames dropped worse

[grizzled jetty]

refunding

ill get it when i get a new pc but its not working for my rig

@covert obsidian

[short minnow]

Borderless fullscreen not recommended you should use windowed mode.

Sometimes borderless works but it usually doesn't

[grizzled jetty]

still not helping with frames like everyones saying

i switched to windowed mode

lemme see if its a cpu issue

no its mostly gou

gpu

ok i think its the game

because im hardly usinf any gou

gpu

this shi ass

lemme try god of war

[opaque narwhal]

I'll teach you how to make a good configuration tomorrow (if you have the app yet)...

[grizzled jetty]

i still have it!

i decided to uninstall origins bc eh

but ill still need it for some other games :3

i just need to hbe patient with it too

[grizzled jetty]

also do you know how to get frame gen working? i cannot seem to get it working

[mighty turtle]

show me your settings for LS and what is your performance without LS enabled

what specs do you have

are you on laptop or PC

[grizzled jetty]

laptop, 2060 6 vram, 16 ddr4, i7 9th gen

very bad specs but i usually get decent fps

60 fps

sometimes it drops tho

my refresh rate is 144 hz

[mighty turtle]

nah those are decent spec

s

ok show me your LS(LOSSLESS SCALING) settings

do you have an iGPU in your system?

another very important thing is, if you game natively stutters without LS it is going to do the same with LS, like for EX on ac origins if you have 40 fps and it drops to 20 or 10 you will get stutters and etc even with framegen

[mighty turtle]

these are the settings i recommend for windowed you can disable scaling if AC origins has dlss

[mighty turtle]

try copying my settings

with scaling disabled

[grizzled jetty]

Oki

well i uninstalled origins but i have other games i can test on

ie. fallout 76

or skyrim

also what am i supposed to set my refresh rate to

i have 144 hz monitor and can only do 60 hz if i wanna change from 144

[mighty turtle]

ok so

lleave your monitor refresh rate to max

it is not the refresh rate you should change

but your in game fps limiter

for example on fallout 76 how much fps do you get natively, without LS

this will be a good test to show you how you should use LS

[grizzled jetty]

40

frames

40-50

on high

[mighty turtle]

ok, well limit your fps to 40

can you lock your in game fps to 40 with nvidia control panel or in game?

[grizzled jetty]

wait im gonna try using riva tuner to get an exact number

[mighty turtle]

i would honestly recommend using the nvidia control panel, some people say they get more latency or less perf with riva turner frame lock

i also recommend having the setting nvidia low latency set to ultra globally in the control panel

[grizzled jetty]

yeah i use that aswell

[mighty turtle]

i have riva turner but i still go with nvidia control panel to limit the fps of each game individually

[grizzled jetty]

if i lock my frames to 30 fps

how well will my frames be with frame gen

[mighty turtle]

i say they might be decent

but go with 35-40

[grizzled jetty]

ill go 35

[mighty turtle]

yes

you will get 105 with framegen on

[grizzled jetty]

also i am getting 50 fps on fallout 76 when i go medium quality

imma try high

[mighty turtle]

ok

if you don't like the results

do medium with 45 fps lock 3x generation

does fallout 76 have dlss

[grizzled jetty]

nope

it doesnt run half bad but its a good example

[mighty turtle]

ok then set the game to windowed and render resolution at 1366x768

and enable scaling in app chose LS1

exactly like in my screenshot

same settings

also test if it runs better with perf mode on or off for framegen

i use LS1 scaling for all games that do not support dlss

to get fps improvements and the quality is not bad, can't really notice it personally on games such as gta or others

if you have issues with it on fallout 76 disable it

do a test lemme know how it works

[grizzled jetty]

well im making max

40 fps with the

ls1 and no difference in visual quality

now

time to try the dlss frame gen

lsfg

[mighty turtle]

ok

enable it and set it to 3x

[grizzled jetty]

lowered frames to 22

[mighty turtle]

enable perf mode

[grizzled jetty]

33 fps

[mighty turtle]

in game or with framegen on?

[grizzled jetty]

wait

i think its 80 fps but my game says its running at 32

[mighty turtle]

well enable the fps counter

[grizzled jetty]

it says 33/80

[mighty turtle]

that means you are getting from 33 to 80

what is your refresh rate set to?

[grizzled jetty]

144

its not very consistent and stutters a lot

also

[mighty turtle]

let's just go in call

dm me

[grizzled jetty]

dropped to 39

up to 79

[mighty turtle]

what are your game settings?

like you left them on high or med right?

[grizzled jetty]

high

without frame gen i get solid 40 fps

[mighty turtle]

try medium

your gpu is under too much workload

or try using 2x instead

the game is on windowed right? not borderless

[grizzled jetty]

yes bordered windowed

[mighty turtle]

turn borderless off

use normal windowed

[grizzled jetty]

only options are

fullscreen, bordered window, and borderless windowed

trying bordered window

[mighty turtle]

so like windowed with borders?

[grizzled jetty]

yes but it works

[mighty turtle]

yes bordered windowed which should be normal windowed

can u send a screenshot of what the game window looks like now

[grizzled jetty]

it just works

seeing 55 frames per second

running 29

[mighty turtle]

can u show me a screnshot of the game window?

https://youtu.be/QEqc5GUJWkI

this is my test on fallout 4

which as the sameengin

[grizzled jetty]

im having some freqent stutters with it

less then when i do with it off

[mighty turtle]

https://youtu.be/oP0cKtfMhts

[mighty turtle]

that means your gpu is being used too much

and it cannot keep up

[grizzled jetty]

lsi is really helpful though. i just see a lot of issues with the frame gen

[mighty turtle]

you need to lower your settings

it is due to your GPU not having enough power to do both framegen and run the game at high fps

set your settings to medium and try again

[grizzled jetty]

going back to medium

yes

[mighty turtle]

can you check your GPU workload?

[grizzled jetty]

i might try this on origins but i fear origins is a lot cause

yes

well

i can see my gpu utilization

[mighty turtle]

well imagine you need to have your gpu workload or utilization at max 80% before framegen

no more than that

[grizzled jetty]

Ok

[mighty turtle]

try medium with fps locked at 40

[grizzled jetty]

im gonna try running this with skyrim tommorow too after i get vramr all sorted out

but lemme test on fallout again ill launch it again

[mighty turtle]

alright

1366x768 medium settings with ls1 scaling plus framegen 2.1 X3

try X2 yoo

and run LSFG perf mode on

[grizzled jetty]

getting a lot of visual errors with frame gen

dunno if thats normal but its more than usual

[mighty turtle]

that is not normal at all

stop using RTSS

riva turner

[grizzled jetty]

riva tuner isnt on

[mighty turtle]

bruh

[grizzled jetty]

i had the same issues before too

[mighty turtle]

i can't help you if i don't see what you are doing or happening

[grizzled jetty]

when i was running with skyrim

Ok

is there a vc

[mighty turtle]

yes, normal voice

[grizzled jetty]

am i able to share my screen with this software

[mighty turtle]

yes

stream me your settings for LS

[grizzled jetty]

yes

@mighty turtle

yes

starting it up rn

ill let you know how it works

eh

its still pretty much the same just locked at 40

[near wagon]

i dunno if this was already mentioned, but for laptops you guys must add LS to windows' graphics settings with the option set to power saver and then in LS itself you choose your strong GPU

[grizzled jetty]

its staying at 40

40/49

40/40**

yes

[grizzled jetty]

yes i fixed this

just now

now were just testing it trying to get mine to work with that

cause mines still very different

[mighty turtle]

it keeps running like poop or not working for him for some reason

[grizzled jetty]

overlays off

i see the screen for lossless

only

also i had trouble enabling the upscaler and framegen from fallout 4

i can try it on lotr return to moria

minecraft yes

that will be good

[near wagon]

i'll come read the thread in a bit. brb

[grizzled jetty]

im gonna load in with my shaders on bedrock

i mean

java

[mighty turtle]

alright

best test is to limit fps to 40 and enable framegen to 2x or 3x

have mineraft on windowed like i do

@near wagon how do i stream my gam ewith ls on disc

[grizzled jetty]

yes i see it

[grizzled jetty]

i turned on my minecraft too

should i try running mine?

i like your house

will this work on stalker shadow of chernobyl

it work sbetter on minecraft but im noticing my game isnt going beyond 40 fps

ok discord overlay was on let me see if that fixes it turning off

its very awesome how long did it take

i wanna make cave like that eventualy

this works well for me on minecraft but my frames stay stuck only at 40 fps it doesnt go over to 80 like before

i have 106

its working

its working

not as much visual problems

@mighty turtle

[mighty turtle]

medium settings fallout 76, windowed bordered limited to 40 fps

[grizzled jetty]

thank you

its working amazing!

thank u so much man

[mighty turtle]

no problem!

the problem was, LS running on iGPU power saving mode and that limit fps was enableed globally including Lossless scaling + impropper initial settings

[grizzled jetty]

it runs amazing

i wanna try ona ssassins creed origins next

[mighty turtle]

XDDDD

it literally feels like magic i know

[jade pumice]

Note that AC Origins is very heavy even today and with certain settings can bring even a modern system to its knees, leaving LSFG with little to work with .

[grizzled jetty]

soo no point in doing thaat

bro stalker running in 120 fps hits so different

frame gen is probably the best investment ive ever made

this scaling software

this is literally the best

who made rhus

this

because i love them

[near wagon]

#💬│lossless-scaling message

[mighty turtle]

if you can gett it to run a steady 30-35 it is perfect

[dull hound]

should I turn on performance on scaling and LSFG

I lose like 20 fps in every game when I use LSFG

and it's reduces 10-15 fps with performance on

I have 2070 super btw

[mighty turtle]

make sure this says PERFORMANCE MODE

and you ve got a bunch of settings that by themselves impact perf and might not be compatible with LS i think like antistropic filtering and etc

[dull hound]

Anisotropic does not affect performance that much

on pc atleast

[mighty turtle]

go to program settings in nvidia control panel lossless scaling and disable all settings except low latency mode

set them to the original default

[dull hound]

ok

[mighty turtle]

also super important, check your GPU usage

[dull hound]

it doesn't go max in most games

[mighty turtle]

because if it is already at 90% percent before you start frame generation it won't do much

[dull hound]

like in some games like detroit it stays at 50-60%

probably due to poor optimization

[mighty turtle]

damn that game was good

[dull hound]

AC Origins on the other hand takes it to 87% on heavy areas

[mighty turtle]

it runs really well

[dull hound]

but never 99%

[mighty turtle]

detroit

[dull hound]

ya

but bad port

[mighty turtle]

new ac games are really bad

[dull hound]

60 fps locked can't remove DOF without changing hex code from exe

[mighty turtle]

except for their VR release

[dull hound]

and heavy use of film grain

[mighty turtle]

hex editor moment

you can just use LS to triple it to 180

another important thing is runnnig your game on windowed or borderless

with propper settings

[dull hound]

most of the time borderless

[mighty turtle]

for both ls and the game itself

this is for windowed games

i recommend going windowed for all games, it is simple to use

i will also show you my nvidia control panel settings, you should only apply these to LS in nvidia control panel

some of custom settings u have might impact it

[dull hound]

ok

thnx

[mighty turtle]

and don't use the max framerate option on LS

https://youtu.be/oP0cKtfMhts

[dull hound]

ya I cap my fps to 55 with RTSS

3x frame gen

[mighty turtle]

this is me recording my stream with my phone testing VRR you can also see my settings and how i do things

[mighty turtle]

i use nvidia control panel

some people said something about latency or perf when capping with RTSS

[dull hound]

should I turn this on aswell?

isn't it depreciated

[mighty turtle]

i have it off

it is for variable refresh rate

[dull hound]

how did you enable VRR

[mighty turtle]

AMD allows VRR on LS while nvidia doesn't

but you won't really need VRR if you use a capped frame rate i think, or have a good monitor

[dull hound]

should max frame rate be 1/3

of monitor hz

i have gsync monitor

[mighty turtle]

nvidia g sync doesn't work with LS, they probably locked it on purpose xd

but yeah

for ex 144hz you need 48 fps

with 3x

[dull hound]

why did you cap it at 144 then

should it be 48?

[mighty turtle]

that is global fps

[mighty turtle]

for all other programs

[dull hound]

oh

I thought it's for ls

alright

thnx

[mighty turtle]

i cap fps for games individually with nvidia control panel, for LS it is also capped at 144, which is monitor's max refresh rate, although i did that before the dev added a native generated fps lock to monitor refresh rate

[mighty turtle]

@dull hound did you solve it

[dull hound]

yes thank you

The performance is really good with minimal fps loss (<5) and latency is also great

earlier it was 22ms

now it's 18.1ms

[analog nymph]

Fallout 3 and Lossless FG work well for me. 55 x3 for 165 and im using around 400 mods. I use borderless fullscreen

[grizzled jetty]

ill try this

[mighty turtle]

damn noice

enjoy!

try helping others if you can with the info i gave you

there is a huge influx of people who don't know how to use and lose on a massive opportunity

[grizzled jetty]

yes

i posted on my instagram story about installing it

[mighty turtle]

YEEEEE

noice

have fun

[grizzled jetty]

@mighty turtle havign some issues with minecraft bedrock edition, when i try loading in with frame gen it makes the screen black, fullscreen is off btw

[mighty turtle]

i dunno, try a diff capture method, but i don't think that should be the issue

some anti stream?

line on netflix

can you record the minecraft bedrock window with obs or some other recording software?

otherwise i honestly have no idea what it might be

make sure LS is running as admin too

you can do that in the settings tab for the LS app

[grizzled jetty]

im also using better rtx but that shouldn’t be a problem

[mighty turtle]

i dunno

try without mods and check if it works

or check for an overlay

it might be some overlay