the image freezes and freezes when using LS 2.7.1 beta

[sinful flint]

I have the same problem and i start using 2.7.0.4 again

[random nacelle]

I need more information, can you describe in detail what is happening?

[mental hatch]

если пропустить кат-сцену или быстро нажать клавиши с DXGI API, то картинка останавливается, сворачивание окна в этот момент не работает, но геймплей за этой картинкой активен, единственный выход - просто закрыть окно с помощью кнопки игра

[pseudo meteor]

What is Hant? I don't have FC5 but If I have that "Hant" game I might test it out.

[mental hatch]

Охота Showdown, если она у вас есть, протестируйте ее или в FC5-FarCry5, это сам DXGI API работает некорректно

[pseudo meteor]

work fine with hunt showdown for me, paste dxdiag export here

[mental hatch]

by the way, on the WGC API, frame generation (LSFG) performs much better with almost no ghosting and twitching almost perfectly, unlike the DXGI API, everything is very bad with this

[lavish crescent]

where can i download the beta? i have the original version only on steam

[pseudo meteor]

you can see in general, in the future please do not spam everywhere with a same question

[pseudo meteor]

What is your base fps pre-fg? DXGI is amazing if you are 60 or above fps, while wgc is good for lower fps but for wgc to work properly you need a stable fps and a lock

[mental hatch]

I don't use FPS locks, mostly 60 or more frames per RS(Rainbow Six) I have FPS 150

[mental hatch]

in short, fix the DXGI API while it performs poorly on the technical side.

[pseudo meteor]

There is nothing wrong with the API, it works totally fine. I saw that you are using a laptop, have you made the laptop specific settings for the app?

[mental hatch]

I set up everything as in the manual, so it's unlikely that this is a problem in my laptop because before patch 2,7,1 everything worked more and more correctly

[pseudo meteor]

have you set the LS in power saving mode in the Windows graphics settings?

[mental hatch]

of course

[pseudo meteor]

that is also required so LS can run on your iGPU

well, the issue might not be the laptop itself but a bad/corrupted driver or Windows components because dxgi is working perfectly fine on both my desktops and laptops

so it might not be the laptop itself but a problematic/corrupted component from your software side of the things

[mental hatch]

all my drivers have been updated to the latest version , I did not notice any broken drivers.

[pseudo meteor]

that is why I also said it might not be the drivers but a corrupted Windows component

outside of suggesting to perform clean os install of the system, I cannot assist you further

otherwise you can try manually repairing .net packages and vc redistributables

[mental hatch]

I update the driver video via NVCleanstall_1.16.0, and the driver is installed correctly through this program

I have versions of the latest version of the frameworks and c++

[mental hatch]

I only have a custom build of Windows 11 from GHOST SPECTR. but despite this, it's a license, and everything works better than mycrasoft

[pseudo meteor]

should have started with that, there were previously people with custom windows buidl and 4/5 couldn't run it properly due to changes in the os from the builders

[mental hatch]

this build works like clockwork if you don't use LS, if you use native resolution then the games work better and without lags and freezes

[pseudo meteor]

well, as said above- I can only suggest using a clean msdn image or customize it yourself to know what components you exactly disable/remove, that way you would know all the possible issues

[mental hatch]

I know how to work with Windows and I have a lot of experience in optimizing Windows, I can say for sure that nothing that is responsible for the performance of Windows itself was disabled, nothing that would make the Windows API work is not correct

then I won't use the DXGI API yet, it works controversially. WGC works much more reliably

[random nacelle]

Obviously it isn't the issue with the API when it works for everybody else

Post here your LS settings as well as Nvidia driver global profile

[mental hatch]

maybe because DXGI does not have time to process frames when they arrive at the processor, or the delay between frame rendering is affected, thereby creating an error of a static image with active gameplay in the background

[random nacelle]

I don't have any of these issues

[random nacelle]

Do you see LS fps?

[mental hatch]

you probably have a powerful PC, so everything works like clockwork for you

[mental hatch]

Are you talking about the frame counter built into LS?

[random nacelle]

There are thousands of users who are testing beta

[random nacelle]

Yes

[mental hatch]

yes it is displayed

[random nacelle]

What value does it show

When you have a locked game to 60 for example

[mental hatch]

I'm not blocking the frame rate, but in the (Control) game at 720p in 1080p resolution, it shows 120 frames per second

Throttling video cards at 60 frames per second has a negative effect on performance

[random nacelle]

I can hardly understand you in either of languages

Can you describe in details, what is the issue?

[mental hatch]

I described the problem for you earlier, after yesterday's patch did you touch the DXGI algorithms?

[random nacelle]

No

You started with freezing, is this your issue?

[mental hatch]

then maybe this problem remains, I have a suggestion that this depends on the FPS jumps from 70+ to 10, for example, when you turn the camera around or when you turn off the game, thereby the gameplay picture becomes static and when you enter the game again, the gameplay behind the picture is active but the static picture in the game does not go away

[mental hatch]

there is an assumption that when you minimize the game and exit to the desktop, this problem occurs when you return to the game

[random nacelle]

How do you minimize the game, with alttab?

[mental hatch]

yes

by the way, I can find bugs and errors where the average user does not find them\maybe these are just laptop problems.

[mental hatch]

by the way, @sinful flint has such a problem too

[random nacelle]

Just tried minimizing 10 times in a row, can't reproduce it

Record a video of this happening

[mental hatch]

by the way, your LS FPS is cut down and does not work correctly in normal mode it shows 60 fps with LSFG 120

[random nacelle]

what's wrong with it?

[mental hatch]

because it packs FPS not in real time, I may have 90 fps with upskilling, but the program will always show 60

[mental hatch]

I can't reproduce this error because I've only encountered it 2 times, and that was when the machine was booted up.

[random nacelle]

Because you have 60 hz screen?

Why would you even use frame generation on a 60fps game?

[mental hatch]

but why do they use frame generation on RTX cards with a monitor frequency of 60 Hz, and all this in order to improve performance and increase FPS

[random nacelle]

It makes sense when a game has less fps than 60

[mental hatch]

you understand that frame generation, which fits into the monitor layout, is a bad idea, it does not stand up to competition with Nvidia and AMD because there are completely different algorithms for working with generation

[random nacelle]

what?

[mental hatch]

I'm saying that tying LFSG to monitor Hertz is a bad idea

although you don't have access to a video card with which you could implement this, so that it works about the same as Nvidia's.

I can't express my thoughts to you because I speak Russian, the English language restricts me too much in expressing my thoughts

[random nacelle]

All I can conclude now is that you misuse the software. If you will be able to express your thoughts in English we can continue

[mental hatch]

and in what ways am I using your software incorrectly?

[terse bison]

I had an issue with 2.7.1.1 beta where alt tabbing caused freeze and I had to reset laptop. When I record it, should I send here or start a new post?

[mental hatch]

write here , maybe they will help

[random nacelle]

There is no point in using fg on a 60 fps game on a 60 hz display

[mental hatch]

anyway, there is a difference in performance on 60 Hertz monitors, I can see it

the higher the FPS on a 60 Hz monitor, the lower the frame rendering delay and the higher the performance

[random nacelle]

You're talking about real frames, what I said was about using frame generation

[mental hatch]

then let your LSFG generate the frames the same way Nvidia generates them, because I can see the difference in this, and it doesn't work quite wrong for you.

[random nacelle]

what is that way?

[mental hatch]

It just doesn't make sense for some users of your software if they already have a frame generation system from manufacturers that works correctly and increases the frame rate per second on all types of monitors.

[mental hatch]

What is your native language?

[random nacelle]

Correct

[random nacelle]

Ukrainian

[mental hatch]

your audience is people who have GTX and GT models on board, for RTX card users your software does not make sense

[random nacelle]

Okay

You're free to not use it

[mental hatch]

я звичайно тебе не засираю, просто хочу щоб твоє ПО адекватно працювала

[random nacelle]

Для більшості воно працює як треба

[mental hatch]

розумію робота складна, ти ще працюєш над цією прогой ще до того як ти пішов з гітхаба

тому що у большенства повноцінні ігрові або персональні ПК

[random nacelle]

Тобі треба пояснити як ти хочеш щоб вона працювала, мені здається що ти неправильно її використовуєш

[mental hatch]

как я могу использовать его неправильно ? если я сделал все как у тебя в руководстве -як я можу використовувати його неправильно ? якщо я зробив все як у тебе в керівництві

ти жорстко ставити своє ПО в рамки в герц монітора

за те у тебе апскелінг працює дуже добре, тому що він не загнаний в рамки

[random nacelle]

Справа не в процедурі, яку треба виконати, а в тому для чого ти хочеш використати. Якщо в тебе гра видає 60 кадрів, і твій монітор може показати 60 кадрів, для чого тобі генерація кадрів? Ти отримаєш 120 кадрів, половина з яких не відобразиться на моніторі

Більше того, програма вміє рендерити більше кадрів ніж частота монітору, просто ти напевне її обмежив вертикальною синхронізацією

[mental hatch]

я знаю що навіть при 70 фпс деякі кадри не відображаються на моніторі , але як я говорив раніше продуктивність і плавність картинки , ефект повинен бути + - такий же як при швидкій вертикальній синхронізації але сбустом фпс

[mental hatch]

я не користуюсь вертикальною синхронізацією

[random nacelle]

На моніторі 60 гц плавніше зображення стати не може, також генерація кадрів додає затримку

[random nacelle]

Значить обмежив іншим способом, в мене видає більше кадрів ніж частота монітору

[mental hatch]

згоден, і генерація кадрів додає затримку навіть на RTX картах нвідіа якщо брати офф ПЗ, все одно різниця є в якості картинки на моніторі 60 герц

[random nacelle]

Ну є так є, не маю часу сперечатись

[mental hatch]

я FPS ліметерам не користуюсь, мені немає сенсу обмежувати продуктивність моєї відеокарти

[mental hatch]

я відчуваю ми тупцюємо по колу, ти не розумієш мою думку

добре припустимо ти не знаєш як реалізувати це інакше

тому що твоє ПЗ працює тільки із зовнішніми даними і не може вторгатися всередину обладнання виробників відеокарт і це камінь спотикання

@random nacelle що ти плануєш реалізувати далі після того, як реалізуєш LSFG до версії 3.5?

[random nacelle]

а що буде в версії 3.5?

[mental hatch]

це буде самостійна ПО яке буде генерувати кадр з нічого

[random nacelle]

в мене немає часу продовжувати

[mental hatch]

ок, гарного тобі дня, спасибі за спілкування