Loading stuck

[rose hound]

I hope roster data gets fixed too

[unborn ore]

you mean today?

[tender stirrup]

Whatever Thursday is in your timezone, which for most people would be today!

[unborn ore]

utc

THURSDAY

[oak marlin]

its gonna come out on friday for me

[unborn ore]

oof

[oak marlin]

oh well, a nice way to end the week!!

[unborn ore]

thats a good point

[final patio]

It comes on thursday for me

Portugal moment

[tender stirrup]

It’ll probably come out somewhere this afternoon/evening for us europeans

[unborn ore]

oh i thought it was at 10:00 in utc @tender stirrup

[tender stirrup]

Where’d you get that time from? Afaik they haven’t told us the actual release time anywhere

[unborn ore]

someone in #🔷ksp2_general said it

[tender stirrup]

Lol you should not believe anything anyone says over there

Its a bit of a show right now

[unborn ore]

yea i got this pic of jool with a telescope mod

[meager frost]

hot

[final patio]

Hopefully between 14:00-19:00(2PM-7PM) it comes out

In UTC

[tender stirrup]

That would make sense

Although it could be later than that

‘Thursday’ lasts until Friday 7:00 UTC in the timezone of the devs

[unborn ore]

i am dumb so when is it in utc 7:00 at night? today

ksp 2 chat is full of lies

[tender stirrup]

There’s no confirmed release time yet, we’re just speculating here

[unborn ore]

yea

#🔷ksp2_general is so crazy it is 1 min slow mode

[tender stirrup]

Usually is when they expect something to be released

Its pretty funny though

[timid stream]

Any news

Can someone test it

[unborn ore]

@timid stream test what?

[tender stirrup]

Patch isnt out yet

[unborn ore]

yes i know what did he mean

abstractG test what?

[tender stirrup]

I assumed he meant to test if the patch solved our issue

[unborn ore]

so we can answer NO!

[timid stream]

Yeah I realize

[unborn ore]

if you need drama #🔷ksp2_general

[tender stirrup]

Typing in all caps isnt going to make it any better

[unborn ore]

wdym

[tender stirrup]

I saw you shouting “CALM DOWN” at everyone in general before it got removed lol

[unborn ore]

lol

[oak kraken]

Ok so they will release it at 11:59pm

[unborn ore]

WHAT

wrong

[oak kraken]

I'm just guessing

[unborn ore]

but it is past that time

i am utc

[oak kraken]

you actually have like 7 hours to get to that point

23:59* ?

[tender stirrup]

Yeah its only 4:23pm in UTC

And the devs are 7 hours behind that, so still a lot of ‘today’ left for them

[unborn ore]

OH GOD SO I WILL HAVE TO WAIT TO TOMMOROW NOOO

@tender stirrup

[meager frost]

sleep?

[tender stirrup]

Probably not

[unborn ore]

so i will be up at midnight

[meager frost]

well I will, it's 330am lmao

[tender stirrup]

By the time its 0:00 UTC the devs are probably done working, so my guess is it’ll be out before then

[unborn ore]

good

[tender stirrup]

Might still be pretty late though, but who needs sleep amirite

[meager frost]

if I wake up to no update I'll cry

[tender stirrup]

What time is it for you now?

[meager frost]

330am

[tender stirrup]

Oh damn

Well when are you planning on waking up

[meager frost]

good question

sometime

[tender stirrup]

That would be recommendable yeah lmao

[unborn ore]

here its 4:29

so how long till update

[oak kraken]

where are the devs

in utc

[meager frost]

sometime in the near future

[unborn ore]

seattle

[oak kraken]

uh

thats not good

for us

[tender stirrup]

UTC-7 iirc

Why cant the US just use normal timezones smh

[oak kraken]

they have a big land area

[meager frost]

why can't the internet just use a global time

[oak kraken]

they can't basically

think about it, it will be the same. Even if we are at the same time at the internet they'll say we gonna release it at 5pm, let's say that 5pm equals 9 pm to them it still equals to you 4am

nothing will change

[tender stirrup]

What?

Am i too stupid to understand this or does that make no sense at all

[oak kraken]

he said why we cant use same timezone in the internet

even if we use the same timezone the Earth is still round

[tender stirrup]

Well yeah, so time would be the same for everyone right

Might be a bit of a shock to the americans when they wake up and find out its still dark, but i’m sure they’ll get used to it

[oak kraken]

well the market is in U.S. I don't think they will catch up to us. We will..

[meager frost]

i just don't like the fact that every game launch will be in a different time zone rather then just sticking to one time zone(either that or do a time zone map)

[oak kraken]

U.S. devs releasing the game but asians play it 24 hours earlier

[tender stirrup]

UTC tho

[oak kraken]

not a good idea

[meager frost]

what

[tender stirrup]

By the time the other half off the worlds gets it, the chinese will have made a dozen cheap copies of it already lol

[oak kraken]

yea :D

[oak kraken]

japanese 7pm and u.s. 7pm it's not same. If they release it at the same clock japanese ppl gets it earlier

[tender stirrup]

It works better if a game gets released for everyone at the same time, even if it might be at an inconvenient time for a part of the world

[meager frost]

nvm 4am hits different

[oak kraken]

:/

[oak kraken]

here we go

[tender stirrup]

Patch is live! Lets see if we can play now

[unborn ore]

why is steam not updating it?

well now it is

[meager frost]

man i was about to go to sleep

oh well

guess im not gonna get any sleep tonight

[naive holly]

UPDATES!!!!!!

[wise pivot]

[oak kraken]

yes updates

[meager frost]

no wonder the update took so long, look at those patch notes

[heady socket]

Good luck everyone. Maybe if this works we can all get together in a year or so and reminisce about all those poor Sims we pumped this month.

[rose hound]

Lemme see if I can get in

[unborn ore]

love you ALLL

[meager frost]

i pumped sim once

[unborn ore]

no

REALLY

[neat barn]

Did the sim pump only once?

Or did you finally pump it and move on

[meager frost]

uh oh

[unborn ore]

YOUR KIDDING

[meager frost]

i got into the menu

and then

that happened

[unborn ore]

OOF

[neat barn]

So it still only pumps the sim once?

[meager frost]

you pass the pump

you pump sim more then once

you uhh

you sim

👍

[neat barn]

You got in??

[meager frost]

yes

then crashed

cause i alt tabbed

[neat barn]

Lets hope everyone else can get in

[meager frost]

i mean i still had like 7 frames but its a win

[neat barn]

7 more than you used to get

[meager frost]

true

the game may freeze at pumping sim once, let it do it thing, you will get through it||(maybe)||

now that i got that out the way

mimir time

[meager frost]

oh wait that was for a completely different app lmao(Ignore that)

[tender stirrup]

Imma try soon, just finishing up an eve mission in ksp1

[naive holly]

hell yea, can’t wait to get home so i can finally pump that sim once

[oak kraken]

well good thing they added epilepsy warning

[unborn ore]

[rose hound]

guys, it is says 20 gb disk space, it just gets replaced right?

[shy tusk]

With this update can you pump the sim more than 1 time?

[oak kraken]

yeap

[ripe niche]

does the update fix the bug for laptops?

[tribal lantern]

yes and no for me, it gets stuck on "setting universe state" and crashes

[ripe niche]

🥹

[tribal lantern]

we did get past the pump, but not by much, at this rate we should be able to play next year sometime

[rose hound]

[ripe niche]

i had to delete bunch of games in order to even download the patch

i love video games

[oak kraken]

why I can count the pixels in the game

I'm on highest settings

[tender stirrup]

You on the right resolution?

[oak kraken]

2560x1440

[ripe niche]

oh my god

still isnt even playable

amazing

gonna delete and redownload

maybe thatll fix it since its been updated

[rose hound]

It didn't load the roster data NOOOO

[oak kraken]

change the windows language to uk or us

[oak kraken]

it doesnt

Thats so annoying tho

[ripe niche]

its kinda weird that the game just straight up is unplayable on some laptops

[oak kraken]

I got the game yesterday, played it once for like 20? minutes and now I can't play again

[ripe niche]

thats what happened to me

i got in once, played for an hour, havent been able to play since

[oak kraken]

I have a decent pc and it still decides to get stuck

[rose hound]

I cant it is single language license

[ripe niche]

very frustrating

[oak kraken]

well thats bad

[rose hound]

yup

[oak kraken]

I really thought they'd have fixed this in this patch

[rose hound]

same, I was really excited but I am extremely disappointed now...

[oak kraken]

I can't even refund it because its from a retail key and not from steam itself

[ripe niche]

yeah it's honestly pretty ridiculous

[unborn ore]

AWWW FU*** I WAS SOO HYPED SHIZ WHYYY GODS WHYYYYY

[timid stream]

They have to fix it

I swear if they don’t fix it soon then I will learn how to code, drive over to Seattle, send the devs to space and fix it myself

And it would still be a faster fix

[unborn ore]

FAIR POINT I AM COMING SHOT GUN

[oak kraken]

lemme find you some icbm launch codes

[naive holly]

lol

i’ll get my war thunder friends to leak the nuclear launch codes

ya know

for “realism”

[timid stream]

Guys if we were to go over and attack in a large crowd
Would it be a riot

That works better for ksp1

[rose hound]

So what now, do I need to buy a new win11 licence to pass the roster data? It is literally 2500 bucks here!

[oak kraken]

paying microsoft for something, they are already making tons of dollars

ads etc

[timid stream]

So I do have to ask
Did it work for anyone

[ripe niche]

i reinstalled and its working now

[oak kraken]

yea i'm playin rn

[timid stream]

Oh great

I’ll try it later and see

Is it working well

[oak kraken]

trying to make a space station with limited parts :/

[timid stream]

Are there not many parts in the game yet

[oak kraken]

there are but there no science equipments

[rose hound]

Robotics do not exist yet for example

[oak kraken]

yea the robotics too

[timid stream]

I don’t expect them for a while

[rose hound]

Anyways I'll go play ksp1 ig

[oak kraken]

it's early access tho

[rose hound]

Hava a good game ege

[oak kraken]

hope you too

[oak kraken]

I still recommend ksp 1. It is much smoother, has more modules/parts/mods, YOU CAN NOT COUNT PIXELS. But more importantly, it's not in early access. This game needs a lot of time, we just need to support the devs until it gets better, i think playing it to give feedback is enough for now

What worked for me is when you're stuck on that loading screen, press control + shift + escape (or just open task manager) and end the kerbal space program 2 task. Then, relaunch and that worked for me!

[oak marlin]

Anyone know why it crashes on “setting universe state”?

I got past pumping sim :D

[unborn ore]

I GOT TO ORBIT and back successfully

[errant kernel]

THE UPDATE

IT IS UPON US

[nocturne tulip]

Does the update fix the problem

[rose hound]

It did for some people

[rose hound]

They did not fix the roster data issue yet though

[forest void]

LITERALLY YES UPDATES

[merry brook]

Umm... what's going on in here? Have you guys turned it into a general chat thread, because that's not what this is for 🙂

People come in here looking for updated information about the loading stuck issue, so please keep shat limited to that specific issue, thanks!

[merry brook]

Is anyone still having the issue or is it fixed now?

[tender stirrup]

No haha, we’re still discussing this issue mostly. The original issue seems be ‘fixed’, but some people are apparently running into other loading problems now. Was just about to see if it works for me

Maybe it’s time to do another one of these polls we used to do here:

only for the people who were still stuck on Pumping Sim Once before the patch
did the patch fix the issue for you? Please reply to this message with 👍 if yes, 👎 if no

[heady veldt]

I’ve only loaded the game once, but it got past PSO

[heady veldt]

Still a slight pause at 2 points in PSO, which were normally crash points

I’ll load the game up a few more times later today and if they all work then I’ll contribute to the poll

[merry brook]

Thanks @tender stirrup . I haven't tested it myself yet but I did the reactions to get the "poll" started 🙂

Testing it now... stopped at Pumping Sim Once. The difference this time is that the music is glitching and the screen flickered.

(In other words, it feels like the old potato is working hard at something)

[tender stirrup]

Just tested it too… it got past pumping sim once, got stuck a bit on something else, then crashed :/

[merry brook]

IT JUST GOT PAST PUMPING SIM ONCE

[tender stirrup]

Did you get into the game??

[merry brook]

Crashed at Setting Universe State

[tender stirrup]

Did the same for me

I’m gonna try a few more times, but my hopes are slim at this point

[merry brook]

Are you on a below min spec machine like me?

[tender stirrup]

Yep

There used to be people here who were at or above recommended spec though, any of them having any luck?

[merry brook]

Quiet in here... hopefully they are playing the game.

[tender stirrup]

Yeah it hasn’t been this quiet here all day

I hope so too

Oh wow it is doing some weird stuff now

[gritty orbit]

updating the game rn

[tender stirrup]

Let us know if it works!

[heady veldt]

Hopefully quiet means everyone here is playing the game

[merry brook]

Trying again. There's definitely a biiiiig chug at Pumping Sim Once.... hanging there for now

[merry brook]

Like what?

[heady veldt]

Second load attempt worked

From exe

[tender stirrup]

Randomly started the game in windowed mode when it should’ve been in borderless

[heady veldt]

Laptop isn’t plugged in either

[merry brook]

Mine is now hung on Setting Universe State again. No crashes yet

[merry brook]

Great!

[tender stirrup]

Oh right, i’ll try loading from the .exe

[merry brook]

Game crashed

[lone island]

I refunded it lol

[merry brook]

Have people been having more success on windowed, borderless or full screen?

[gritty orbit]

i only ever use borderless

got it to work the first week after a day of failure, i deleted the ksp2 folder in appdata and it just let me past the pump

but then i tried a week later and it didnt work

[tender stirrup]

I haven’t noticed much difference between them

[LOG 22:29:22.513] Setting textures from shader
[ERR 22:29:27.743] [Physics.PhysX] TriangleMesh::loadFromDesc: desc.isValid() failed!

[ERR 22:29:27.784] [Physics.PhysX] TriangleMesh::loadFromDesc: desc.isValid() failed!

...

[ERR 22:29:27.817] [Physics.PhysX] TriangleMesh::loadFromDesc: desc.isValid() failed!

[ERR 22:29:27.817] [Physics.PhysX] TriangleMesh::loadFromDesc: desc.isValid() failed!

this is my log

different message than before the patch atleast (i think)

[heady veldt]

The game is running like it was when I first got it

But a week after that the PSO issue arose

So I’m hoping that that doesn’t happen again this time

[gritty orbit]

no experience with code, but does this mean the models are too complex or something?

[errant kernel]

IT DOESNT WORK

💢

IVE WAITED OVER A MONTH, AND THE FIRST PATCH COMES OUT

IT GETS TO THE VERY END

AND THEN UNITY CRASHES

[heady veldt]

Is it still pumping sim once

Or is it setting universe state

Or some other part were it’s crashing

[tender stirrup]

i have as much of a clue as you do

[errant kernel]

Its at the very very end

As soon as its about to load

[tender stirrup]

lol Mike seems to have sent me a DM 4 hours ago but deleted it, wonder what that was about

[errant kernel]

But it fixed Nothing

OK so

[tender stirrup]

It fixed a lot, just not for us😔

[errant kernel]

The game freezes at setting universe state (Most of the time it crashes here)

It continues

Music plays

Soemthing about manuals

Then it unity errors and crashes

[tender stirrup]

Have you looked at your log yet?

Imma try reinstalling it and see if that does anything

[oak kraken]

Bro I still keep crashing at Pumping sim once...

WHY

I was really really hopping the first patch would fix it...

but.... no

[tender stirrup]

I’m utterly depressed now

[oak kraken]

same

[merry brook]

Have you tried just waiting for a while there or does it actually crash?

[oak kraken]

it actually fully crashes

[merry brook]

Aaw

[merry brook]

Are you sure it's at Pumping Sim Once?

[oak kraken]

yes

It has NEVER got past it

[merry brook]

OK because mine eventually gets past that but crashes later

[oak kraken]

ever sense I got the game it has never gotten past it

[merry brook]

Are you also on a below-minimum spec machine, like me?

[oak kraken]

Just below

this is my specs:

OS: Windows 10 (10.0.19045) 64bit CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9300H CPU @ 2.40GHz (8) RAM: 8040 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 (2996MB) SM: 50 (Direct3D 11.0 [level 11.1])

[merry brook]

Are you running it from the .exe?

[oak kraken]

I am running it from steam

I have also tried .exe aswell

but not for this patch yet

[merry brook]

Possibly too little RAM, no?

[oak kraken]

well idk if this helps but I am also hooked up to an external hard drive

[merry brook]

16 GB RAM required for KSP2.

You and I have half of that

[oak kraken]

so does that mean I am unable to play the game?

[merry brook]

I would expect you should be able to upgrade your RAM, but I don't know for sure whether that is what is causing issues for you.

[oak kraken]

I am using a gaming labtop btw

no pc

[merry brook]

Ooh I just got past Setting Universe State (I set the resolution to 1024p instead of 720)

[merry brook]

Should be possible to upgrade the RAM anway.

[oak kraken]

I am not a tech person so idk how to do that lmao

[merry brook]

Also, mine just crashed but I didn't see where

[merry brook]

A computer shop can do that for you

[oak kraken]

ah ok

[merry brook]

Hey wait... it didn't crash, it just reverted to the part where you select Single player/settings etc.

[oak kraken]

I can get to that part

wait...

what?

lmao

[errant kernel]

@green oxide Was the update meant to fix the issues with loading? We are still having loading issues.

[heady veldt]

Are you loading a previous save or making a new one?

[merry brook]

Can't load a previous save if the game never loaded before

[tender stirrup]

Hey i got to the intro video again

But the screen’s frozen

Nice, i got into the ksc! Now let’s see if the VAB loads

[timid stream]

For the people who did gain the ability to load the game, we’re you able to get any actual gameplay or did everyone encounter more issues

[heady veldt]

I’ve got to minmus

[tender stirrup]

Spoiler alert: it did not, in fact, load. The game crashed.

[timid stream]

Great

How big is the patch

[tender stirrup]

For me it’s basically still the same issue in a new jacket. It mostly crashes while loading, sometimes gets into the KSC, but clearly is not launched correctly and crashed at the first opportunity when trying to load into a different scene

[timid stream]

Hmm

[mighty sandal]

Was 1.9GB for me.

[timid stream]

That’s weirdly big

But fine

[timid stream]

Do you still have old stuff messing with loading from trying to fix it earlier

[tender stirrup]

Nope, completely reinstalled the game

[timid stream]

Hmm

Hope they start releasing patches more often

[tender stirrup]

Wouldnt count on it

Well, i guess i’ll just update my support ticket with the new crash logs and leave it at that

No KSP2😔

[timid stream]

Worst case I still haven’t done much ksp1 career mode

[heady veldt]

Have you even cleared out the ksp 2 folder in the appdata folder?

[forest void]

i should refer you to that video i sent a while ago

with this new patch maybe trying those things could work

[tender stirrup]

NO WAY

THE VAB LOADED

am i dreaming?

[forest void]

NO

[naive holly]

im loading the game rn

welp

i got past pumping sim once

got stuck on setting universe state

ill take it

[tender stirrup]

I cant believe it… im on the pad with a rocket

[timid stream]

Ok

So

I tried it

It got past pumping sim
Got to setting universe state
A unity error thing pops up
And once that finishes I’m on “loading KSP missions” and it an error message appears terminating the program

Ima try reinstalling it

[tender stirrup]

If you manage to get into the ksc somehow, open the tracking station first. That’s what did it for me

[gritty orbit]

well i cant install the update because i have 11MB of storage on my pc

but it isnt telling me whats taking up the last 80GB

[silver vine]

@gritty orbit empty your recycle bin, if there's anything in it. The program WizTree can scan the drive and show you what's taking up space on the drive.

[gritty orbit]

i know how to clear space, the recycle is empty

[silver vine]

(if you've heard of the program WinDirStat, WizTree is very similar but is much faster at scanning)

[sweet hound]

IT WORKS

[tender stirrup]

Same here!!

It was initially crashing all over the place, but i can now quite consistently load and fly crafts!

[silver vine]

🎉

[tender stirrup]

Fps is horrible though, but i’ll take that over not being able to play at all

[empty zenith]

Check your ram usage, if it's too high then the system will use your disks as "ram" but it is super slow

[tender stirrup]

I assume thats whats happening, but it could also be lack of vram. Thats what you get when playing under spec

[timid stream]

It didn’t work

Quick reminder to make sure you mark whether it worked or didn’t work in the message that’s pinned

Always Crashes at “loading KSP missions”

I’m kind of done with this

[gritty orbit]

crashed, i tabbed out to try to keep it running but i dont think that helped

closing all my windows except steam and the game brb

it actually worked, got past pumping sim once

almost crashed on universe state, music got really choppy, but it loaded

then i tried entering the vab and it crashed both the game and my steam

then discord opened in a frozen state so i had to force quit it

[tender stirrup]

I got to this point, and then got the vab working by entering it from the tracking station

[gritty orbit]

but hey, i didnt have to delete the ksp2 folder to get it working this time

[gritty orbit]

gonna try this

[tender stirrup]

I’ll leavy my ‘fix’ here for future reference:

1. Uninstall and reinstall the game
2. Reload the game until you get into the KSC
3. Open the tracking station, and open the VAB from there

[gritty orbit]

oh weird the launcher crashed without opening the game

or it closed by some timer idk

[tender stirrup]

Seems to work quite reliably too, since i was able to repeat it. The game still crashes sometimes, but i’m able to open quicksaves

[gritty orbit]

thats gud

[tender stirrup]

Don’t forget to vote on this ‘poll’ everyone, might be insightful to the devs!

[gritty orbit]

a unity window popped up this time before it crashed, that was new

Keeping a tracker here, editing message for

Game crashed while-
Main load, pump or other: 3
Switch/load VAB: 4
Playing: 5
Natural closes: 0

[tender stirrup]

I honestly have 0 natural closes either, but thats probably my own fault for putting my laptop through more than it can handle lol

[oak kraken]

Guys I talked to a support person and this is apparently what you're meant to do:

[tender stirrup]

Oh, that’s interesting. Have you tried doing that yet?

[oak kraken]

I fixed mine by closing it in task manager after it gets stuck loading. So I'm not 100% sure if this works but it does according to this support person so hopefully this can help some people out!

[tender stirrup]

People still getting stuck should definitely try that!

[gritty orbit]

After launching and playing the game until it crashes multiple times, I've determined that I don't have the pump issue anymore!

I just have a new plenty of other hard crashing issues

[tender stirrup]

Progress! (?)

I’ve determined it’s allost definitely got something to do with Kerbin. I sent a craft on a flyby to the mun, which would go perfectly fine until it returned to kerbin. Once it got to a certain distance from kerbin the game would crash, no matter what i did.

The game also tends to get stuck loading when trying to open a save in the KSC, but has no problem with opening a save with a craft in orbit

[tender stirrup]

I tried this btw, and it doesn’t do anything as far as i can tell.

It’s just crashing on loading everytime again for me now. Sigh. Well, atleast i got to fly a rocket to the mun and build a cool little plane

[oak kraken]

that sucks

really hope they get a fix soon

[tender stirrup]

To be expected from an early acces on a sub min spec device i guess

So do i

I’m sure they did something this patch, but it doesn’t seem they were able to eliminate the issue entirely

[oak kraken]

do you still have infinite loading screen? or is it just crashing? So I can reply to support

[tender stirrup]

Infinite loading screen, but sometimes it will display the unity error and just crash

[oak kraken]

ok. I’ll let him / her know

[tender stirrup]

Good idea. I should probably add this to my own ticket too along with some logs, so they atleast can get an idea of what’s still going wrong

[oak kraken]

yeah, I just sent the issue to my support person too

[tepid portal]

Game crashed while (Patch 1+):
Pumping Sim Once: 2
Setting Universe/Other Main Load: 2
Switch/load VAB: 2
Playing: 0
Natural closes: 1

[tender stirrup]

0 while playing? Wow, i have about 6 of those already

The game absolutely refused to let me come anywhere near Kerbin again after my little trip to the Mun

[sweet hound]

i think my issue was a bit diffrent cos mine stoped at initlizing game sim

[rose hound]

They did not fix the roster data issue. (It happens to some devices without english display language)

[unborn ore]

yes to pumping sim once but it now gets stuck on setting universal state and why does dakotas description say small ksp2 news tommorow

[forest void]

because there will be ksp2 news tomorrow

... i'd presume??

[oak marlin]

Hope the universe will find its state soon, im itching to play

[forest void]

have you tried waiting it out

and have u reinstalled yet?

[oak marlin]

I’ll try that tomorrow, it crashes at universe state

Hey, at least the sim pumped!

[heady veldt]

Weekly challenges come out on Fridays

[forest void]

yeah that’s not news though

[heady veldt]

It’s smol news

[oak marlin]

News is news, I guess

[unborn ore]

yea

[tender stirrup]

Also, for who hasnt yet, dont forget to vote on this poll!

[tender stirrup]

Btw, tip for those who manage to get in the game and launch something: PUT SOMETHING IN ORBIT AROUND THE MUN ASAP! You can use that craft as a ‘save beacon’. I’ve found trying to launch quicksaves in the ksc/around Kerbin is prone to the unity crash, but somehow saves around the Mun seem to load fine nearly all the time. Once you load into the game you can then load directly into the vab from there. It’s a weird fix, but it keeps me playing so I thought i’d share it 🙂

[forest void]

if you get the lazy orbit mod, you can do that in like 5 seconds from launching something

you could make a single structual part rocket and just use lazy orbit to put it around the mun

that would take like 30 seconds from game loading to mun orbit

[tender stirrup]

That could work if you dont want to do it manually

[soft zenith]

same

[lapis pulsar]

I installed the update and the game still crash when pumping sim once. 😦

[green glade]

same

[merry brook]

Does anyone else get this in their logs even if the graphics are set to low?

[Graphics] Current Quality Set to Fantastic

[unborn ore]

let me check

no?

[merry brook]

[tender stirrup]

Hey yeah, my log has that too

[merry brook]

And what are your actual settings?

[tender stirrup]

Low🤨

[merry brook]

This could be a clue

[tender stirrup]

Resetting the graphics doesn’t give a new ‘[Graphics] current quality’ readout it the log, so it might just be a temporary value before the game actually loads the users settings? When i make changes to the graphics settings while in the game they appear in the log as ‘Toggle: … changed to true/false’

Also, i saw Mike typing here a few minutes ago👀

[final patio]

I still cant play it says something like X000000000F9 cannot be read

[leaden flame]

For the most part, you can ignore the inaccurate graphics quality in logs. Thats known (and currently on purpose), but the logs are still valuable so don't hesitate using them when Customer Service or someone like me requests them

[errant kernel]

Any updates?
Yes updates

Also, is there plan for a hotfix for this tomorrow?

Its getting mentally tiring with fixes not working

[merry brook]

I think we'd see something in #announcements if anything has been made public about a possible hotfix.

[unborn ore]

so what?

[shadow forum]

did they fix the loading in the new patch?

[merry brook]

For some people, yes #1078687584626155560 message

[deft lantern]

yes but no

now instead of getting stuck at 'pumping sim once'

I get stuck at 'setting universe state'

[oak marlin]

Same here

[deft lantern]

then it crashes and throws a unity crash screen

[deft lantern]

you also crash at setting universe state?

[oak marlin]

Yep, it’s pretty frustrating

[deft lantern]

Good to know I'm not the only one.

[oak marlin]

We share our pain, brother

[deft lantern]

Hopefully they fix all this absurdity with the next patch

what is your device btw?

like what are you running it on

[oak marlin]

Some Acer laptop, intel i3 (it’s pitiful but it’s the best we have)

[deft lantern]

I'm thinking it may be we just need to either wait for a fix to patch the crash issue or we may need to wait for even more optimization

[oak marlin]

I’m guessing it’s the latter

[deft lantern]

I hope we don't have to wait long for either

[merry brook]

Curious. How many of us who are getting the new crash at Setting Universe State have less than 16GB RAM?

[empty mirage]

I get past pumping sim once now
stuck at universe state or maybe something else

it continues to move onto more messages even after it crashes which is a little funny

[deft lantern]

I'm thinking it may be that, although not sure

I have 15 GB

(maybe 14, have to recheck)

[timid stream]

I have it with 16 Gb

[fickle pewter]

I don't even think that's possible

Ram is in powers of 2

Multiples of 1024 megabytes really

at least new ram is

[forest void]

it’s powers of 2

so 4 8 16 32GB

i have 24GB (16 and 8)

[fickle pewter]

mb

[forest void]

nah you’re good

but yeah 15 or 14 is wrong

[fickle pewter]

For all new age ram this would be most accurate

[forest void]

you could have 12 (which is minimum)

[fickle pewter]

Yeah I don't think there is any motherboards that support 14/15

[forest void]

mhm

[merry brook]

12+6 VRAM

[forest void]

yeaaaaaaah but vram isnt really important ive heard

[tender stirrup]

I’ve got 8. I really wanted to upgrade it for KSP2, but ofcourse i got the one version of my laptop which doesn’t support upgradable ram. Stupid 2-year ago me

[merry brook]

Aaw

[forest void]

i have a double core with an 8

i bought an extra 16 so i now have 24

r u sure your laptop doesn’t have 2 cores

[tender stirrup]

It does (2 4’s), but they’re welded onto the motherboard i think

[forest void]

what that’s so silly

[merry brook]

Lots of manufacturers are doing that now

[tender stirrup]

Ikr. It didn’t even mention that anywhere when I purchased it, although i didn’t really care at the time so i doubt i’d have noticed

What’s their reason?

[merry brook]

Because thin

[unborn ore]

hi judge

[merry brook]

Anything to shave a fraction of a mm from the thickness of the device and probably saves a tiny bit of money in manufacturing, too.

[tender stirrup]

The fun thing is there are 2 other nearly identical versions of my laptop model that dó support upgradable ram, and i don’t think those are any thicker than the one i have

[merry brook]

Also makes people pay more for higher-end models instead of getting the cheaper one and upgrading it themselves.

[tender stirrup]

Manufacturers should really be required to make their products ‘fix it yourself’

[tender stirrup]

Hey has anyone else tried this today btw?

[merry brook]

There are some rules about that in Europe

Well, it's on the way

The US too, apparently.

[tender stirrup]

About time too haha

[tender stirrup]

do you all have the same last line in the log as me?

[ERR 02:23:20.337] [Physics.PhysX] TriangleMesh::loadFromDesc: desc.isValid() failed!

iirc this is the same message that would cause the game to get stuck on pumping sim once before the patch

[empty mirage]

not my last line but I've got a bunch of those

[errant kernel]

The update was a blog

[silver vine]

Look up "right to repair"

most discussion of the subject, including various pieces of legislation that are currently working their way through government, reference this specific phrase

[agile lotus]

ah yes I made that mistake.

My laptop isn't even that old but I want a new one.

[tender stirrup]

So do i, but i really don’t need a new one

[merry brook]

I could upgrade to 16 GB on this device, but in a year Microsoft stop supporting Windows 10 and I can't upgrade to 11, so I think I'll put the money on a new machine instead.

[forest void]

i love win 11

with a burning passion

[neat wind]

Windows 8 is ma boi I love it/hj
though Windows Vista was the good times

also henlo crashing on save loading screen gang

[tender stirrup]

How come you cant upgrade to 11?

[merry brook]

CPU is not supported

[viral tusk]

P U M P I N G
S I M
O N C E

[viral tusk]

same i cant even install games such as space engine because windows 11 doesnt support FREAKING OPENAL32

FOR SOME REASON

[unborn ore]

good luck

[errant kernel]

No updates

[merry brook]

I would submit a crash log to customer service but since I'm so far behind minimum specs, I don't feel I should be wasting their time.

[errant kernel]

The devs know this is an issue

Ive already submitted before

i guess il submit again

[merry brook]

Yeah I think you should, because the the bug seems to have changed for most of us

[tender stirrup]

I’ve been think about sending in a new support ticket too, but maybe i should just add a new message to my existing one? I don’t want to clutter up their inbox even more than it probably already is lol

[unborn ore]

does anyone know a airbag mod for ksp that works

i know this is a ksp2 chat but anyway

[silver vine]

#🔸ksp1_modding

[unborn ore]

no help

they do not help

[silver vine]

then why do you think cluttering up the KSP2 section with KSP1 questions will get you any more help?

[unborn ore]

because more people are here

[merry brook]

Wrong chat, @unborn ore

Please try to keep this chat on topic.

[oak kraken]

After update I get crash(

[candid perch]

Im guessing the kerbal roster data stuck issue is still persisting

Gotta wait a few more weeks ig

Bought it on launch still waitin

[peak kernel]

My loading screen is stuck on "loading travel log data", any one know how to fix it ?

[merry brook]

I think this is a variation of the bug formerly known as the Pumping Sim Once bug. After the patch, it has been crashing in several different locations, though that's a new one to me.

[peak kernel]

Well, It turn out that the loading was just very slow but I still got into the game, however, the game freezes for about 30 second when I do a quick save, so I think I might have an issue with the save/load system being very slow

which is new for me

[shy tusk]

M1 laptop

[peak kernel]

And now that I'm in my craft is litteraly levitating above the mun

[deft lantern]

Ok then it’s 16

[forest void]

no i actually unironically love win 11

[viral tusk]

people who know what is pumping sim once:

[timid stream]

yall

i just crashed at pumping sim once

[agile lotus]

It's definitely possible, just a really weird and unusual configuration.

could have 8+4+2+1. There's technically nothing preventing you from mismatching capacities in memory sticks.

[forest void]

who has a quad core ram laptop that wouldnt want to just do 4x4 or 4x8

[agile lotus]

fair enough, I just felt the need to point out that it's technically possible

[forest void]

do 1GB ram even exist? or 2GB for that matter?

[agile lotus]

if you have ddr3 yes

[forest void]

i got DDR4

[agile lotus]

My grandma's really old desktop has 4+4+2+1 for some reason.

[bright delta]

Probs gradually upgraded

[oak kraken]

I got this just now from their support

[heady veldt]

After around 5 successful launches of the game, it not longer can get past setting Universe state

[timid stream]

I'm actually so annoyed

this is stupid

you should never have an entire chonk of players just not be able to load in because of an error

like if it was simple optimization issue then I would get that but like I don't think it is

anyway I just hope they fix this soon

[forest void]

i don’t get why they needed to wait 3 weeks for a patch with like 3000 words worth of patch notes

release a small patch with a few issues every couples of days at the minimum, maximum a week and you can fix so many more issues coz there will more controls to know if your fix worked or not

also, they could fix this new loading error and release a patch in a few days to fix the specific issue but unfortunately i’m predicting it’s gonna be another few weeks before “patch 2”

[weary saddle]

they already explained why in one of the dev posts

[heady veldt]

Going to sacrifice a few kerbals for us all

Hopefully that makes the game work 🙏🙏

[red lark]

I'm facing this issue since day one 24/02

till now im not able to try the game even after the pach released nothing happened

my Specs are Win 10*64 bit , 12 GB Ram , AMD 8600 , cpu i 7

after creating new campaign it got stuck on loading screen first was stucked under the subject of "pumping sim once "

now after updating the game its just moved one subject on loading screen and crashed then exit the game .

it seems that am going to wait soo long to truy the game , also i cannot return it and get refund because i have 3 hours play time spent on loading screen ,
can anyone help me or advice ??

dose anyone has the same issue <

[forest void]

so so many people have the same issue

[red lark]

please help or advice

[forest void]

in the beginning almost 1/3 of all ksp2 owners had the issue

[red lark]

is there any notes or updates regarding this issue from he developer .

?

[unborn ore]

NO!

[tender stirrup]

They used to communicate with us in this channel about it, but it’s been a while since we’ve heard anything from them

[errant kernel]

🤬

They wont provide support BECAUSE i am below the minimum

Most steam users ARE below the minimum

I PAID $50 FOR A GAME I CANT PLAY

AND THE SUPPORT WONT EVEN HELP

AND ITS TOO LATE TO REFUND
AND NEVER EVEN WORKED IN THE FIRST PLACE

And the most enraging part, its Their game with the unity error

[noble hare]

show this response around, this doesnt seem to be a specs issue

[errant kernel]

Ive posted it all around

Upvote it on reddit

[errant kernel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/11vqddl/devs_denied_me_support_for_their_unity_error/

[noble hare]

good, their response is ridiculous

[sweet hound]

does anyone get applying legacy module data to vessel parts?

[errant kernel]

@green oxide We are still having issues that your team is ignoring, please at least acknowledge us!

[noble hare]

this was one of the major bugs I assumed the devs would tackle first for the patch but it seems not

[errant kernel]

What OS are you using?

[noble hare]

didnt need to mass ping

but windows 11 (I solved the error on day 1 by deleting game files in appdata), above recommended specs

[oak kraken]

just give it some time, Surely someone makes an optimisation mod and the game will get more fixed

[errant kernel]

Its not optimization, we cannot create a save file

And its been over a month

[oak kraken]

Let’s hope the devs are working on it

[errant kernel]

They clearly aren't

[rose hound]

The support does not know how to support anyways. The patch did not fix most of the problems. They probably don't know how to fix it yet. They are just trying to figure out what's causing it. The support team does not know what to do, some of them know the issue, while some of them don't. I know that their help is mostly useless, but as you know, this is a game that needs different types of coding and physics. They can cause errors that are not even seen in pc game history. Give them some more time. I believe that everything is soon going to be ok. We just need to wait and give them more info and suggestions.

Have a nice day/night.

I literally wrote this using my phone lol, my fingers are not ok rn xd

but I upvoted that anyways, the support needs to be better, at least that guy should've known one of the most important issues if they are a member of the support team after all

[tender stirrup]

Agreed, but an update on where they’re at would be nice at this point. They previously mentioned this issue was probably not spec related, but now customer support is giving us conflicting info by saying that it is

[empty mirage]

on the bright side I think all our logs are different from before

even if it's the same issue, it means they're clearing their way towards figuring it out

[tender stirrup]

We know they’ve been working on it, they literally told us a few weeks ago

[empty mirage]

mhm, but this is evidence of progress

[tender stirrup]

True

[empty mirage]

I still think it's interesting that the crashes seem a lot like the ones I experienced with the DLC for ksp1

and those were also d3d problems, at least according to the logs

[unborn ore]

THANK YOU CAN @noble hare @errant kernel STOP PROTESTING IT IS A EARLY GAME calm down and chill out the time will come then we can play patience please

[noble hare]

???

just encouraged the person to post it places

as you said, calm down and chill out

[tender stirrup]

See, this is just like the good ol’ days lol

[merry brook]

That's the response I would have expected, to be honest, Beans. This is why I haven't submitted a bug report - because I'm well below minimum specs. Why should we expect them to provide support when we don't reach anywhere close to the minimum requirements they specify?

Buying the game was a risk we took, knowing full well that it might not work on our devices.

With a finite amount of resources, they have to prioritise, and that means they will take such bug reports and provide support to those who meet the minimum specs. So the best thing to do is encourage those with higher-powered machines to reach out for support instead of us. Hopefully that will allow those of us who don't have such a device to play in the future, as things continue to improve.

[heady veldt]

I wouldn’t mind so much if I didn’t know that the game actually can run for me

But I’ve been to jool, duna, mun etc, with very little issues

If something works once I don’t see why it doesn’t work another time after changing literally nothing

[errant kernel]

Yeah mine worked for me once too

[merry brook]

Fair enough

[unborn ore]

it worked for me but laggy and we need to wait because it doesnt work sometimes it is life

[tender stirrup]

Laggy might just be because of poor specs, but the crashing when loading is definitely a bug

[red lark]

my Specs are win 10 ,12 GB Ram , i 7 , AMD 8600 and i have the loading issue i tried it even in powerful Pc than my specs and still the same issue .

[unborn ore]

fair point intel 1135g7 iris XE graphics 16 gb ram so prob correct

[eternal loom]

My game does get stuck on pumping sim, around 15~20 minutes to load
would this be considered a bug or just my pc taking an ungodly amount of time to load the game? I am a tiny bit below min

[merry brook]

There is a bug, @eternal loom but customer support don't appear to be taking bug reports from users who are below the minimum requirements. On the other hand, if you are only slightly behind, it might be worth a try!

(After re-reading your message, I realise you do actually get the game to load. I'm not sure if that's a bug or whether the game just normally takes a long time to load, but that does sound excessive.)

[heady veldt]

I can get the game to load if I launch straight after rebooting

Performance is still terrible though

I’ve peaked at 20 fps in space

But am yet to experience that glory again

Currently all I get is 7 as a best case scenario

[merry brook]

What are your specs?

[heady veldt]

11th gen i7 igpu
4 cores at 3 GHz
16 Gb ram
Windows 11

[merry brook]

GPU?

[heady veldt]

igpu

[merry brook]

What kind? Iris Xe?

[heady veldt]

Yeah

I’ve seen it as low as 70% while running ksp 2, but usually at 90-100%

Especially in recent times

[merry brook]

Interesting that you're getting performance that is so much poorer than another user #🔹ksp2_technical message

[heady veldt]

That’s mainly what I’m most frustrated with

Because the game has run perfectly fine before

10-30 fps depending on situation

But now it’s running terrible

[merry brook]

And before patch 1 you were getting the loading stuck bug?

[heady veldt]

Yeah

The first 2 days of launch the game ran perfectly fine, with no issues

[merry brook]

I'm really glad to hear that the game is working for you now. Maybe we can continue the performance discussion over in #🔹ksp2_technical ?

[heady veldt]

Then the 2 weeks leading up to the patch it wouldn’t load

[heady veldt]

👍

[heady veldt]

sometimes i get performance like this

and other times like this

Both are obviously terrible , but one is still significantly better

[merry brook]

[heady veldt]

mmmmmmmmmm

[merry brook]

In KSP1, Kerbin was a resource hog on a poor GPU. Two planets in one. Maybe it's the same on KSP2?

[heady veldt]

Minimising ksp 2 for a few seconds and then going back on it would set the fps back to ~5 for a few minutes

Performance has been so unbelievably inconsistent for me

I can normally tell when the game will load or not because of it though

Like on the title screen, the fps can range from 15, 30, or 60 smoothed

15 fps means I’ll crash at the loading screen without fail

30 gives it like a 50/50 chance

60 will load the game

[merry brook]

[heady veldt]

Not playing ksp 2 for a few hours and then launching straight after rebooting seems to be giving it the highest chance of 60

[merry brook]

Maybe it's related to how many capybaras are spawned

[heady veldt]

That must be it

[merry brook]

The performance variations really sound like a PC issue, to be honest. You don't get anything like that with other software?

[heady veldt]

Nothing else really taxes the hardware like ksp

Ksp 1 was definitely consistent in its performance though

Every time I see someone running ksp 2 well it fills me with anger

[merry brook]

Just be glad you can start it sometimes. I cannot

[unborn ore]

OH WHAT THE HELL I GMAIL PRIVAITE DIVISION SUPPORT AND THEY DID BASICLY NOTHING THEY SAID "follow us on social media for updates" OKAY THAT HELPS NO IT DOES NOT

[unborn ore]

sorry to hear that

[merry brook]

I guess that means they are working on the problem 🙂

[daring shale]

I just got the game, and it is doing the same thing

I'm starting to think that it was a waste of money

[mighty sandal]

What are your PC specs?

[sweet hound]

the mods are invading this thread

[daring shale]

Specs?

[eager sleet]

In windows – hit the Winkey (⊞ Win) to bring up the start menu and type in: dxdiag
This will bring up the DirectX Diagnostic Tool. The first tab (System) will show your system model, processor, and memory.

The other tabs will give you information about your displays and video cards. If you have multiple monitors or a laptop connecting to a monitor – then you might have to click on the last display tab to see the correct video card information.

[daring shale]

Ok, the processor is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500 CPU @ 3.20GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.2GHz

[silver vine]

@daring shale with the dxdiag window open on the first tab, once it has completed its scan, press Alt+PrintScreen (the latter is usually shortened to PrtSc or something like that). This will screenshot the currently active window and copy the screenshot to the clipboard. Paste it here.

[eager sleet]

perfect, now do the same on the display tab

[silver vine]

flip over to the Display tab, and do the same thing.

lol ninja'd

[merry brook]

It looks to me like you are missing a graphics card needed for demanding 3D games like KSP2

[silver vine]

yep

integrated graphics, not suitable for most modern 3d games

[eager sleet]

I'm afraid to say that's quite a bit below the min requirements bar

[daring shale]

Sadly though, graphics cards are like 4,000 dollars :(

[merry brook]

You don't have to get the most expensive one on the market 🙂

[daring shale]

Yeah, but the cheapest ones are around 300 dollars

[merry brook]

Unfortunately, KSP2 needs a graphics card to run. There are some people who got it running (poorly) without one, but they had a more advanced CPU than yours and mine. It looks like we will have to upgrade our hardware if we want to play.

[daring shale]

I wonder if the Devs will optimize it for the rest of the Steam community

Like they did with KSP1

[silver vine]

don't expect the official minimum requirements to drop at all

just for it to eventually run better on systems that are supported

[heady veldt]

first pic was from launching today, second from yesterday

note changes in fps, with no changes in situation

[unborn ore]

hmmmm #🔹ksp2_screenshots

[tender stirrup]

Anyone find out anything new?

[unborn ore]

nope

[errant kernel]

no updates

[daring shale]

Ok, so some news, I was somehow able to get KSP2 to work even without a 3d graphics card and a high cpu and the highest fps I got was 4

[errant kernel]

lucky

[tender stirrup]

I get 4 fps on Kerbin too, have you tried going to space yet? Framerate improves dramatically for me there

[daring shale]

Same

[tender stirrup]

I feel bad for you Beans, hang in there bud

[tender stirrup]

What GPU do you have?

[daring shale]

I think it may be in this one

[tender stirrup]

How on earth are you even able to run the game on integrated graphics😳

This is your card compared to the minimum

[errant kernel]

charge your phone

🪫

[tender stirrup]

Oh yeah thanks lol

[unborn ore]

yes they do improve there

[unborn ore]

i do it works

[errant kernel]

No updates and dev team ignore

[final patio]

My card is a better i think, its an Intel Iris Xe

[merry brook]

[some stuff removed to keep it on topic]

[unborn ore]

oh what the hell man

[tender stirrup]

Oh yeah, that’s a bit better but still. I have one of those too (on top of a dedicated graphics card). I might try to run it on that one later today, I’m actually curious what will happen

[final patio]

Im getting 10FPS VAB 2FPS launch pad 4FPS space

[unborn ore]

OH SHUT UP BEANS THE NERD EMOJI IS OLD NOT FUNNY

[errant kernel]

You kinda broke the “keep the language PG” rule

[unborn ore]

i did not swear?

[errant kernel]

You said “hell” while it not being used as a noun, but a swear

[merry brook]

That word is not forbidden. This is, however, extremely off topic. Please take it to a DM if you want to continue talking about it.

[errant kernel]

since we have no dev support the only thing we can do is talk and wait

[merry brook]

Then please talk in the relevant part of the server.

[errant kernel]

L
deddly has become less lenient

[errant kernel]

People posting things like this are very offtopic for the "loading stuck" channel, yet it is allowed. It would better fit in #🔹ksp2_technical

This channel is about a glitch which prevents people from playing the game, not posting about their preformance

[merry brook]

We don't need to discuss moderation in here, Beans. Feel free to report something if you have a problem with it.

[errant kernel]

So have the devs even looked at this channel since patch #1?

[merry brook]

There are at least three QA guys who appear to be monitoring the thread.

The most important feedback seems to be from people who meet at least the minimum specs.

[errant kernel]

But the QA are just monitoring
There has been no developer acknowledgement of our issues since patch #1, and there doesn't seem to be any coming.

[tender stirrup]

I’m sure they’d let us know if they had anything worthwile to share. Most likely they simply just dont have a fix yet

Also, as Deddly said, discussing specs here is on topic if it adds context to the issue. it might be insightful to the QA’s

On the other hand i kinda understand your frustrations too, no updates is never fun

[errant kernel]

I just feel as though the developers don't care about our issues because we are a small minority of people. There are no major content creators or big name people facing this issue, so why would they have a reason to care?

[tender stirrup]

Unless i’m mistaken, this is the post with the most replies in the #1074830191769178212 channel. Fair to say it’s a significant minority, especially considering the amount of players that likely aren’t on discord. The devs probably have good reason to fix this from a loss of income perspective alone, but i’m sure they also care that a significant group of players is currently unable to play the game. Imo they really do care about the quality of their game

[errant kernel]

I see your point of view, and I really hope that you are correct on your predictions. But we have gotten no messages in here from any of the developers since patch 1 or a message saying that "Hey we realize that patch 1 didn't fix this, we are working on it" For me its really frustrating and makes me vocal about this because this game ahs been in my library for over a month now and I have only been able to create a save file once. The last time we got a message from the devs in here was before the first patch, and there has been no acknowledgement of our current issue, and when we send support tickets they are useless. I love KSP and I hope to love KSP 2, but its hard to stay positive when I cant play the game and the devs wont say anything.

I would really just like something, anything from the developers saying that they know we are having issues, even if they do not have a fix. We all spent $50 on a game that most of us cannot refund or play, and to me feels as though I just threw money into the toilet.

[leaden flame]

Communication on a large game can be tricky, but keep in mind that when we were identifying bugs and fixes, this was considered the most important one on our list.
Unfortunately that doesn't mean a fix is easy or fast. We appreciate the patience people have, but do try your best to not feel ignored during the downtime

[errant kernel]

@tender stirrup

They acknowledged us

[tender stirrup]

Told ya they care about us 😉 thanks for the update Mike, we appreciate it!!

[errant kernel]

Mike is the best

[leaden flame]

It can suck to feel like you're in the minority as stuff gets figured out for those around you, but we def haven't "Moved on" from any of you. Sorry for not being able to share more!

[tender stirrup]

No worries, we totally understand not every issue is easy to fix and communication for a game this large can be hard. Seeing you say you haven’t forgot about us means a lot though, especially for those of us who’ve been struggling a bit with their patience recently

[errant kernel]

Yes updates!

[daring shale]

Well it would mostly crash, but sometimes I am able to get it to work for a bit

[tender stirrup]

That’s actually amazing

[sweet hound]

I can

[tepid portal]

I can. Kinda. Sometimes...

[heady veldt]

I can if I launch straight after rebooting the pc

[oak marlin]

Seriously, the communication with the community is amazing, best dev team I’ve ever seen

[forest void]

i can load the game consistently with integrated graphics, i get about 8fps if im looking at the sky and about 16fps in orbit

[heady veldt]

^

Literally me

[empty mirage]

lol i tried integrated graphics a while ago and crashed harder

[forest void]

the only difference is you have a saturn v and i don’t 😉😉

[tender stirrup]

I had no idea so many of you were on integrated graphics lol, def gonna try that now

[forest void]

basically i have 100 chrome tabs open so restarting is a good way of closing all of them without forcibly closing them (ie losing my histroy) coz when you restart and open chrome again it keeps your tab progress

eyah

[heady veldt]

I have a Saturn V that can’t undock the LEM

About to execute 10 kerbals in ksp 1 because of the loading bug still being present

Note that this is not a sacrifice, it is purely out of anger

This is murder

Just want to make that clear

[unborn ore]

you and your updates

[tender stirrup]

Yes, police? Its this one

[errant kernel]

Please do not @ me in the middle of the night

[unborn ore]

umm i am in UTC sorry

[errant kernel]

No worries

[neat barn]

I got in once before patch

Had 3fps on launch

Aka playable

[tender stirrup]

Wdym?

[neat barn]

Integrated graphics

[misty inlet]

I got 2 fps at launch but I got 10 fps in space

[unborn ore]

yes it is because looking at a planet is laggy at 4 fps but looking up i get like 20 - 30 fps

[forest void]

i launch in map view

it’s the only way

literally i flew my air launch and flew my saturn v in map view

it’s really fun actually you guys should try it

[unborn ore]

so is it laggy?

[tender stirrup]

I land all my craft in map view because the game simply crashes whenever i get too close to Kerbin in flight view lol

[unborn ore]

lol same

[unborn ore]

ama now!

[errant kernel]

Yes... AMA?!

[tender stirrup]

Lots of updates, i’d say

I tried running the game on my integrated graphics today btw, sadly didn’t fix the crashing issue. What’s weird is that it didn’t seem to impact performance much, even improved fps compared to my dedicated card in some situations🤔

[elder forge]

The freezing is caused whenever the game tries to auto save. The savegame files have been filled with garbage data and have become huge.
Go to C:\Users\<windows username>\AppData\LocalLow\Intercept Games\Kerbal Space Program 2\Saves\SinglePlayer\<campaign name> and remove all the json-files that are over a few megabytes in size.

[tender stirrup]

I doubt that’s the same issue, since most of the people here have never been able to get a save in the first place

[timid stream]

Updates?

[forest void]

no updates

[timid stream]

[errant kernel]

[errant kernel]

Y’all, I’m getting a graphics card and RAM upgrade

It ain’t much, a Nividia GeForce gtx 950 -> 970 and RAM 14 -> 16GB

But maybe it will help

[errant kernel]

IT WORKED

IT WORKED!!!!!

So to all here: its a graphics card issue

GTX 970 seems to work

[forest void]

you’re gonna get 3 fps on launch and 0.5 when looking at a planet or moon but YAY

[errant kernel]

Better than 0 frames ever

[forest void]

i upgraded ram with integrated graphics and it worked, so i do actually believe it IS hardware related

[errant kernel]

yeah i got 16GB of ram upgraded also

so it could be that

[forest void]

i went from 8 to 24 so a big jump

beans if you don’t want to savour the first time you loaded and play around for a bit, you should try close the game and reopening to see if it’s consistent

[errant kernel]

im worried this may be a one off fluke, but hopefully its not. But the kraken loves to torture those who are foolish

[forest void]

that’s why i say play first

if it crashes when reverting to vab or launch pad you know it’s not consistent

[forest void]

if it is ok at that then try closing and opening once you’re done

[forest void]

is that a solid with fins lol

ares1

[forest void]

@errant kernel can u turn on your fps so i can see what you’re dealing with in your screenshots

[errant kernel]

~20

@forest void

[forest void]

what if u face directly down

[errant kernel]

around 45 open space

[forest void]

like towards kerbin ???

[errant kernel]

9-12 FPS

[forest void]

that’s cap if you’re getting 20 facing away

ok so yeah gpu is a huge advantage

i get 0.5 or less facing a body

[errant kernel]

My craft does only have 5 parts

[forest void]

doesn’t matter for me

[errant kernel]

This is on:
A Nividia Geforce 970
16GB Ram
Intel I7-3770
On: Low settings

Playing it safe on low

[forest void]

what about that environment thing is that off or on low

[errant kernel]

wdym

[forest void]

above th e high medium low settings

[forest void]

oh yeah

j have that off

idk what it is but i assume turning anything off is gonna help 0.5 fps performance

[errant kernel]

im coming back in the atmo

sadley no heating

[forest void]

try look directly down

see the lowest you get to

[forest void]

also looking at ksc is even worse

[errant kernel]

i got form 10-14

[forest void]

that’s impresibe

[errant kernel]

And my parachute didnt deploy

[forest void]

rip bull

also ur screenshots have so many pixels

[errant kernel]

yeah, settings on low

time for the test: Can i revert?

[forest void]

no i mean the opposite

[forest void]

the image is so clear

[forest void]

try zoom on this

[errant kernel]

YES

I CAN

[forest void]

WOOOOO

what r u using for screenshots

[errant kernel]

Ok so @tender stirrup We have some news:
It is a hardware issue, it seems that over 16GB of RAM and something as powerful or more than a Nividia GTX 970 is needed

[errant kernel]

Windows + Shift + S

Comes with windows

[forest void]

based asf

i’m so proud

[errant kernel]

I am so happy

[forest void]

i’m happy for you

[errant kernel]

KSP is my dream game, and finally playing KSP2 has given me immense joy

[forest void]

another graduate

[forest void]

just a note here actually quite important: if you want to do that screenshot when you’re landed or whatver pressing shift will increase your thrust so i would get into the habit of ALWAYS pausing before screenshotting. it’s also useful to pause anyway so you can send the shot to people or save it

[errant kernel]

I actually usally use print screen

[forest void]

[errant kernel]

i jsut tell everybody Windows shift S because they do the same thing

[forest void]

i have been lied to, discombobulated, BAMBOOZLED even!

[errant kernel]

I left for a bit and rejoined and it still works

I am so happy

[errant kernel]

With the help of my friend, we think that everyone here cannot load the game because of their CPU

My freind cannot run the game and has an Intel I5

I couldnt run the game bfore and had an I5

Now i have an I7 and can run the game

[forest void]

@errant kernel YOU ALREADY WENT TO DUNA??

[errant kernel]

Yeah

Frist thing i did

Also physics broken there

[forest void]

nah ive been playing ksp for 3 years and have only been to minmus twice on ksp1 and once on ksp2

never left kerbin SOI (intentionally)

[errant kernel]

the farthest ive gotten is Jool, never bothered with Eeloo though

Maybe I will now that ive gotten in KSP 2

[forest void]

can you dm me your copy paste from the vab of the craft you used to get to duna?

[errant kernel]

Sure, let me just figure out how

[forest void]

click the root part

then do control c

paste whever you want

[errant kernel]

alright

Ill send instructions too

@forest void cant DM you

[tender stirrup]

Wow congrats on finally being able to play Beans!

I’m heavily suspecting it’s got something to do with the GPU too, i just hope it’s fixable on the game’s end rather than a fundamental issue with certain cards (my laptop isnt upgradable in any way so that would suck)

Have you run into any game crashes yet? @errant kernel

[forest void]

what’s your gpu

[tender stirrup]

Geforce MX350

So quite a bit below min spec

[unborn ore]

how is there already talk about patch two well i aren't complaining

[forest void]

bc patch one did barely anything significant

[unborn ore]

fair point

[forest void]

and once people played with the new update for 5 seconds they were already bored of it and now waiting for the next “improvement”

[unborn ore]

yup

[tender stirrup]

300 fixes in the patch notes💀

[forest void]

yeah but they’re all minor bugs