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Working very hard. This is a super tricky one. Appreciate the patience and appreciate the logs we got on Friday. I promise to update Dakota when we have any good news.
🫶
thanks mate
I've noticed that everyone I've seen with this issue is using a laptop, specifically one from dell. Is that true for most of you guys?
It's not a hardware issue
I hope this works thanks.
IT WORKED
wait
NOO
it got stuck on "Pumping sim once" and crashed
I'M IN
IT WORKED
I JUST HAD TO WAIT
YESS!!
Nice! Seems the ‘loading kerbal roster data’ issue is fixable by changing your language atleast
We held some polls in this chat a few days ago, and a lot of people here do use a laptop, but not all. Also not everyone uses a Dell one, a lot of people use Asus too, but ultimately it seems to occur on a pretty wide variaty of hardware
ahh, I didn't see that
Do you have the data at of the polls?
I finished my first orbit and returned but when I reverted it instantly crashed lol
Same here, but I've managed to launch 2 vessels...but it's so frustrating, then you're afraid to hit F9 cause you know it's going to crash on loading and you'll lose everything.
same here
My laptop is from Dell too. But like someone already said, it's like impossible that dell's bloatware is the sole cause of the issue.
Yeah in my case i get the "Pumping Sim Once" and im using a HP laptop
Hardware is not the issue
I still think my 1920 MB of VRAM doesn't help...if people with a better graphics card don't have the problem then it has to do something. Cause I have 32GB of system RAM and a 11xxx Intel laptop cpu. So my GPU is the only thing under minimum.
I've seen people really under the specs and running it
And equally there’s been people over min or rec spec that also run into the issue
That’d be a loong scroll back, i believe we did those saturday
True, it's all just frustrating. But it's probably good for me lol, making me do my homework. Or watch movies lol
I'm very good at procrastinating
By the way, they won't just ignore loading roster data error and just try fixing pumping sim once because it is fixable by changing the language right? Because windows 11/10 home single language license is a thing, you know.
They won't....it's like selling a car, fixing the driver side airbag to work but the passengers have to enter a cheat code into the car every time the car is turned on...They'll fix all the loading bugs soon, this has tot be one of the highest priority things their working on. We can't help them test if we can't even launch the game.
Happy for ya !!!!
Devs update when
From a few hours ago: #1078687584626155560 message
thank you so much guys @elder lance @leaden flame for all your hard work for us to play KSP2 ||some of us|| love all your hard work
Make that most of us!
A reminder not to ping the devs. They are working and each ping can take them away from doing their important work.
Lol yeah, let them focus on fixing this evil bug so we can play
Pumping sim once is a problem for other people too
apparently close to 1/3 of users had the problem (some have fixed)
i have been stuck on pumping sim for 3 dagys and to day i wanted to fix it, but... i spend 5 hours and i did get over loading screen but it crashed after 10 sec
Any updates?
Weeks, not months. No, there haven't been any updates on this issue yet

They do treat this as a priority1 from what Dakota said earlier (P1 appears to be showstopper bugs, preventing people playing the game)
"Working very hard. This is a super tricky one. Appreciate the patience and appreciate the logs we got on Friday. I promise to update Dakota when we have any good news."
agreed, but on the flip side it's gonna be all the more fun when the issue gets fixed and we get to play
I'm hyped for the game too but that is not a flipside
it is to me, some bugs wont mean a lot to me compared to the situation i'm in now haha
fair enough
Agreed
yeah its really weird
we all had/have the same crashing point but only certain fixes work for some of us
how many you have now?
it'll be in a few hours after school
ill increase from 8GB to 24GB (im buying a 16)
so i might have 16 if i cant do 16 and an 8
i think you can
but if not ill just double anyway
and its just a start. i may get more in the future but a 2x or potential 3x increase is good no matter what


Let us know if it changes anything!
i will!
Nice
Dope!
43% complete 😩
i think i’m going to try ksp1 when it finished just so i can delay the big moment and also i should get some decent playability with my increased power
ok ksp1 works so much better
loading time increased significantly and it plays much smoother
ok @tender stirrup time for the moment of truth. loading ksp2 now
🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
🤞
And raf still pinging devs even when everyone tells.him not to lol some things never change 😂
i have bad news
wuh oh
yeaaaah
HOLY SHUT
WAIT
ITS ON
ITS WORKING
GUYS LETS GOOOOOOOO
confirmed RAM upgrade fixes issue (hope this isnt a once off)
Very nixeeee
IM SO HAPPY
guys jeb completed his first successful launch and landing in recognition of your help and paitence
@forest void what ram did you upgrade to?
i started at 8GB then i bought a 16GB ram with same speed and type (very very important) then i added that into the empty second slot so now i have 24 GB ram
so i recently upgraded to 16 ram and i ||when it ran|| could run ksp2
starting to think RAM can play an important role in performance, and not only the GPU. I got a RTX 2060 6GB Laptop with 32GB RAM and I'm playing this 1440p +- 20 FPS at high settings. Except when on the ground
GUYS i got in for a little bit and GOT TO THE MUN @here
With 32 GB of system team I have the same problem...#1078687584626155560 message
Nice job, better than me
thanks but i bet you will get there perfectly next time 
Haha, I'll try my best, thank you
Ayy congrats! I hope this doesnt mean this ís a hardware issue after all, since my laptop isnt upgradable😅
@leaden flame update?
Please stop pinging the devs @unborn ore , we’ve asked you to not do that multiple times already
🫡
Still nothing ?
No patches yet no
What's your specs?
Looks like there's a change in the releasetest branch though
I managed once to access the KsC!
good on the other hand I had to start again I had deactivated the mod tutorial...
Nope, looks like they’re still working on it
⛽ 👻 

i reinstalled changed from fullscreen to borderless and reset all graphics then changed them to medium and it stuck for a solid 10 sec and then loaded
bro scrolled from bottom to top in the most active thread! impresive
on an iphone u can just press the top of the screen
I was first response! woooooo. O wait... 😦
hey guys if you are getting stuck going to the launchpad you likely have a vehicle already there. if you go to the ksc then the launchpad from there, it will show the vehicle and you can recover it
this will cause you to not be able to go to any launchpads or runways too, no matter what one the vehicle is on
No this thread is about people who just simply can't load into a campaign from the main menu
Like at all, consistently, it always crashes at a few certain points
I have 32 Gb of ram and still get the Pumping Sim error Also, my processer is an I-7. The only place I am below spec is my graphics card is I have a GT450. You wouldn't think it would be too hard to find an error that happens EVERY time. I used to write software professionally and I'm just sitting here looking at my frozen computer and shaking my head.
It seems to happen always for some people, some times for some others, and never for others. I think that's part of the difficulty.
The problem is they not only have to find it, they also have to solve it. I’m sure they let us know when they have something
That too
I have the same issue as you, with only the GPU lacking. But sometimes I can get in, it just takes forever and a lot of tries.
What GPU do you have?
How long is forever? I have let mine run while apparently dead for 15 minutes and nothing ever changed.
Which i7?
Well I have the fps counter on, and I found that when that freezes the game will never load, so far... sometimes I wait for less than a minute at Pumping other times it's pushing past 5 minutes...here's one of my logs: #1078687584626155560 message
It has my gpu on it
That's below the minimum specs, and it's a DDR3 CPU
That's the thing . . My logs never show an error?!? Some warnings in the beginning but nothing at the end, It just stops.
Me too, plus is says that "Pumping Sim Once" is completed
Me too.
It's all weird...above my pay grade lol, I just want to do the weekly challenge
i7-6700hq 2.60 ghz B)
Well as far as hardware goes, I DLed an alpha from another company with specs Waaay over mine. But it booted. At like 2 fps but it booted. If ksp2 did that I would say hardware but it just stops.
Yeah that's above the minimums, how much RAM and what GPU do you have?
oh boy this is gonna b funny
im warning u, my specs are goofy as hell
1 sec
i also have 2 gpus
Here is another interesting thing. Every so often I go boot it again. Or try anyway. So one time I booted it with KSP1 in the background. (I forgot to exit it.) Anyway, same pumping sim error but interestingly it crashed KSP1 caused a unity error!
btw i own the game and can run it, just sometimes when i launch a craft it just stops loading
Ah, laptop
Possibly out of VRAM
mhm i got a good deal on this one, i eventually want to get a desktop tho so i can upgrade parts when needed
We're having a different problem. We can't load the game past the main menu
oof
thats rough
Yeah someone should probably edit the thread-name to clarify
We did, but the devs responded to this one so we all came here
Just a side note on my beast here. I dev mods for Fallout 4. I regularly run FO4, the Creation kit and Chrome with 8-10 tabs running all at the same time with no loss of fps. Yeah I know older software etc. Also I regularly run KSP1 and chrome and some homeoamde editting software again with no loss of fps.
I can run a minecraft server and a mincraft client at the same time, even with 3-4 people on the server it keeps up. This is why I'm a bit hesitant to say it is hardware.
But they're not in early access either...you have to imagine that in an alternate reality we'd be waiting 2 more years for a full bug free constant fps version of the game
I mean I guess the answer could be in looking at who doesn't have the problem
Like survivorship bias lol
Yeah basically trying to find out what the "population" has in common by differentiating it from the "non-struggling" population
Were it I trying to find this, I would create a quick and dirty app to inspect the other main process to see exactly where it is failing. As devs we need to be ready to build our own tools.
Deploying that to end-users would be a pain though
They would not need to send it to everyone. Just a few test cases. Ask for volunteers. Especially volunteers who have dev experience.
Reason I'm thinking specs is that I didn't have any issues and my PC is a fair bit over the recommended specs, it's W11, and running Norwegian language
Before I retired I developed 3 tier multi seat SQL based business software. I put in my support request that I would be happy to help test and gather data for them.
its not hardware. my computer should be a literal bomb with its specs while running it, but I got past the pumping sim once part one time, and ran the game
i have a bum laptop. CPU is over minimum and i could not get past pumping sim with only 8GB of ram. i have no dedicated GPU (it’s integrated coz laptop). once i bought a 16GB RAM upgrade I increased from 8GB to 24GB (16GB is minimum) and i could run the game. it stays on pumping sim for about 20 seconds. when i did do my upgrade, i deleted the Intercept Games folder and uninstalled on steam, and when i reinstalled it worked.
ye i got a i3 cpu
Any updates?
No updates

Its starting to get a little bit frustrating
Seeing my favorite youtubers build starships and Jool V's with the new parts while we cant load the game
ive discovered some news, not about the progress of this but about the game and how the early access is built
er a rumor ig
apparently there are a LOT of features, or at least some, like interstellar parts and planets and bases and so on, that were cut from what the devs were working on for the public version, but theyre still "adding weight" to the game, if that makes sense
this is probably fourth-hand information because i heard it from a video, the maker of said video heard it from someone else who was relaying from another person
so dont quote me pls lol i could be very very very wrong
but it makes sense, there probably is a lot of stuff going on in the background
along with it not being optimized and stuff
anyway thats my "update"
Oh yeah, the subreddit is full of that sorta stuff
Hidden assets, fuel types, etc etc
Either some of the devs forgot to clean up certain things in the code, or they just left them in there deliberately as a teaser for what they’re working on
Id rather find the ones in the game than the code tbh🥲
Hotfix when? Ik everybody is asking that. Also, I don't really care about the bugs, I would still rather play this game than modded ksp 1, but after a bug fix this game gonna be bussin
I don't care about bugs. I need higher fps then maybe I can notice some bugs
The issue is pinned in the big fix forums, so hopefully they fix it with the first patch
Also I just loaded the game through the exe file and it loaded for the first time in days 🎉
im trying that rn
Loaded the game a second time from exe successfully
Still takes ksp 1 level loading times to get past pumping sim once, but at least I can play the game again
Still Nothing ?
there will only be "something" when the first update comes out
in "weeks not months"
so hopefully soon ish
im so sad i tried to load up my save today after my success yesterday and i cant pump sim once 
WTFLIP DAKOTA WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO YOU WHEN WERE YOU CM DAKOTA AHHHH
what happend to pd]dakota
OK PEOPLE WHO HAVE PUMPING SIM ONCE ERROR I HAVE A LIST OF THINGS TO TRY (it worked for me)
What's in the list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErC3HEC7bhU its in this video
Fix KSP2 Stuck On Loading Screen,Fix KSP2 Not Loading On PC
Step 1) Restart PC
Step 2) Verify the game files
Step 3) Skip the launcher
\KSP2_x64.exe" %command%
Step 4) Launch the game from game installation folder
Step 5) Run as administrator
Step 6) Try changing windows language to English
Step 7) If able to launch the game use Alt + Tab
Step ...
i did the visual C++ upgrade, verified game files, and changed the default game opening to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program 2\KSP2_x64.exe" %command%
Yeah launching from the exe seems to be a good temporary fix
It did not work for me
I have tried all of that
OMG
I will tryyyy
It didn’t for me :/
From KSP’s twitter: https://twitter.com/kerbalspacep/status/1630976565214601216?s=46&t=PUSeghRUP11o4_74F2IV5w
Here are some of the major issues our team is tracking:
- Stuck on loading screen
- Maneuver node irregularity
- Docking controls misconfiguration
- Save files corruption
We plan to put out a patch within the coming weeks addressing these issues and more. 🔜
(2/4)
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‘Within the coming weeks’ yikes, seems like it might be a while until we can finally play
But hey!
Not only is our issue mentioned, it's also mentioned first
considering the dev-mentioned difficulty in tackling this issue (come on, it strikes random devices seemingly at random, and leaves the scene with not a lot of useful traces? this must be a bugfixer's nightmare), weeks would be a realistic fantastic goal
I'd love to play it on my birthday, which is in a few weeks, but this is a reminder that life doesn't always go as I planned, and I just have to cope and adapt to that
agreed. I got it for my bday but havent been able to play but I hope its fixed soon for your birthday and mine
Oooh probably delayed birthday present gang hehe, and yes I hope that too!
Well it did not work 100% it still crashes like 2/3 of the time
And my RAM is going insane at 99% usage 12GB
min is 16 so idk
My GPU is under the minimum yet not even going to 40% usage and im at the VAB whit 10FPS and launch pad 5FPS
While that my RAM is going insane
I had this bug with a particular save file but I loaded an earlier autosave and it got in fine.
that is interesting! Mine, also extremely inadequate for any fancier graphics than Tetris', commonly rises to 100% usage, with 15-20FPS at the VAB and uh 2 FPS and crash at the launch pad xD
I just let Windows process the latest update and ... I have Lift off!
is there a fix yet?
Nope, no reliable fix has been found, but patching the issue is high on the devs' agenda
Either your cpu may be too much strong for your gpu so your gpu can't handle it or the same but your gpu may be too powerful for your cpu, that's a long sentence
Or the game doesn't utilize resources efficiently
Its an integrated GPU
Both my CPU and GPU dont even pass 40% usage load
Its probably RAM problem
well I don't know how powerful APUs can be but -idk if you did- you can try optimize the settings manually from nvidia control center or the amd one
Its an Intel Iris Xe
I cant use Nvidia or AMD's
Intel has One but sucks ngl
Yes
I checked the specs
The only modificiation is my SSD
Wich i i changed from a 512GB Gen3 M2
To a 1TB Gen 4
I do alot of memory transfer that's why i bought a Gen 4 if you're asking
35FPS homepage
well the game is in early access -idk if it gonna change- so it need some much system power(gpu, cpu) maybe later it will change but at the moment i don't think you can get higher fps mate
i might be wrong it's better be to listen other people of course
Yeah i still believe its because of my RAM constantly going for 95-99% usage
specs?
1x8 + 1x4(unRemovable)
single channel might be a problem but two can handle it I think
the game recommends 16 tho
Well im planing on expanding to 20
Because its cheaper going for 16GB then a 12GB single stick
For some reason
capitalism? people wants 12gb more than 16 maybe
Idk i live in a socialist country
but the Ram is imported i think
see a professioanl
Yeah prob the best idea
it might not because of ram
at least you don't spend your money on something you don't need
Yeah
Im somewhat in the requirements with a 3070 and an i7 plus ddr5, and i still have the issue. So it cannot be a hardware thing
its not hardware
there is no appdata folder under my user
If you are in this thread, experiencing the "Pump Sim Once" issue and have 16 gigs of ram or less, can you please emote on this message in any way.
If you have 24 gigs of ram or more, can you please emote on this message in any way.
It's hidden by default. Just type it in the address bar
any updates?
Emoting on the appropriate message that applies to you above would be a big help.
no local low either
don't know what to tell you, it's there, just take the address I provided, swap your username in, and paste it and hit enter...
OOOOOOH
nah its still broken
i got it to work
i just had to put all graphics at 0 and 720p resolution 
@leaden flame add this to the datapoints of various fixes...
thanks for the help anyway
Why did Mike Steele delete the react message?
he didn't?
^
what's the visual c++ fix?
just download the latest
This should be pinned
Discord search has been a little screwy today
Discord search has had about 50% chance of actually working in the past month
The issue I saw most recently was recent messages not populating into it.
I have precisely 16 so it's on the edge but yes
did that reply have ping on 😩
so do i
Im in lol
16 or less is akin to less than or equal to 16. So you would fall in that group.
I did the weekly challenge...now I can wait in peace for a patch to fix this damn bug.
New crash...
sad
You may also want to ask people who don't have the issue
why
Try and figure out who are overrepresented in having the issue and who aren't
If for example there are 5 people with 4080s, you don't want "only 4 people with 4080s have this problem" to be seem like people with 4080s rarely have the issue
@leaden flame sometimes ksp2 does load sometimes but it does work i have been to the mun so it is not ram and i also have 16 gigs of ram
In order to pass this bug i have to completely restart my pc in order for it to actualy work otherwise it just crashes
restarting worked ONCE for me
@bright delta We have lots of info and telemetry. Just looking to connect some dots and get a reliable fix for everyone.
ah ok, mea culpa
No worries! Thanks everyone!
Thank you for the communication.
Yall i fixed the loading getting stuck but now it crashes once it loads 
It’s done that a few times for me aswell, i think its just a continuation of the same bug that prevents loading in the first place
ohh okay good because i thought i had mad dookie ram and that was the problem
because im too poor to afford more
thanks for making a great game "when it loads"
Do yall think "Weeks, not Months" mean when the next KSP 2 update is?
Its kinda vague
On their twitter they mentioned a patch being released ‘in the coming weeks’, so could be anywhere from next weekend to 2 or even 3 weeks from now
devs probably know a lot is riding on an update to fix bugs so they may be taking their time to make sure it is done right
could be 52 weeks
unexpected?
I think fixing bugs is or should be there top priority
That’s why they released in early access
i think it kinda is
Yeah
which is dope
So they should probably fix the it soon
Especially since a huge amount of players are having this issue
yeah i also think it "will" happen
but i stay away from the mindset that it just happens
cause i have faith that the process "will" work, but there is still effort in that process
acting like it just simply will be might be demotivating, also rood
good thing almost nobody does this, im just thinking out loud
i feel like i dont contribute to this thread as much since i fixed my issue
We are here right now, as you know. He is probably talking about a patch.
That is exactly what it means. People were speculating that the patch could be months away, so the CM team have said that it’s weeks not months away
There is also QA testing to go through once they have what is a 'final' build. (that could also fail QA and need to have revisions) I'm sure the devs and CMs want it in all of our hands as soon as possible, but 'weeks not months' is as accurate as they can be at present.
what is a cm?
Community manager
centimeter!
🤦
Beans when updates: 
Beans when no updates: 
what is happening
No updates
beans stop spam asking for updates
and raf stop pinging the devs
This thread is a personality
beans when maybe updates 
Started of so wholesome, now its basically just people asking whether the devs have said anything new haha
Patience is a virtue!
Patience can die I want to launch kerbals into space at 3.1 km/s
Only 3km/s? I hear there’s already a kraken drive that’ll let you do ten times that 👀
its about what i expected, still pretty wholesome if you look past that
True, certainly more civil that the subreddit in any case
Also, update from Nate:
What a week! First off, a huge thank you to all of the people who have decided to join us here at the beginning of Early Access. It’s been so exciting to see what you’ve done with KSP2’s new parts, and even though there have been some bumps in the road, it’s been so fun to explore the new Kerbola...

@errant kernel UPDATE
There are a few ways to "jumpstart" the game, just search up "how to fix perpetual loading ksp2" then click the first video, that's how I fixed my game it is still very laggy when you get in and you need to restart your computer and verify the integrity(idk what that means) of the game files every time you want to play(watch the video that I'm talking about cuz what I said isnt everything you need to do), and even then it doesnt always work, I've gotten in 3 out of the 7ish times that I've tried, it would probably be easier to just find a way to get the system requirements, but if that isnt possible then just use this
I’m good guys. I don’t need help anymore. I got a refund for the game.
Ah, i was wondering why you hadn’t replied once to this thread. Do you plan on repurchasing it once this is fixed?
oh im sure the thread wont be deleted its the one the devs use to communicate
yeah its one of the biggest ones i think
Makes sense too, since everyone who can’t play the game yet basically just stays here waiting for any updates lol
Possibly. I’m fine with the original KSP rn as it’s amazing still.
I’m debating whether to wait to see how they fix it or to buy Hogwarts Legacy. I don’t think it’ll ever be fixed for me as I’m so far below minimum requirements so.
The devs have pretty much confirmed this isn’t a spec-related issue, so it should eventually get fixed for you too even if you’re far under min specs. Can’t say anything about how your framerate and loading times will be tho😬
Maybe wait until the first patch? There’s quite a lot of people playing below minimum specs, so they might be able to give you an idea of what to expect
from my point of view specs ARE a large part of the issue, but not all of it
I really hope they eventually get to the point where if you can run ksp1 you can also run ksp2
The loading issue or just the game in general?
loading issue
But some people with specs above recommended also have it, so that would be weird🤔
Cool, just ignore my advise, I had this problem too, but now I dont, I told you how to fix it, though you have gotten a refund alread, I just forgot to say one thing about jumpstarting the game, you cant return to VAB if you had to use the glitch so you will have to redo the glitch everytime you need to change something.
As I said, it would be easier just to find a way to get the requirements.
Wait so have devs actually been talking in here?
if anyone wants to respond to the first comment just turn ping off so Drew isn’t mentioned, becuase the info could help someone
yeah a few times
That’s why I left it open
and now it’s got 3.5 thousand messages!
WHAT
I was just about to ask
Yes updates! 
Had a few days where the game ran no problem, now it’s not working again 
i would suggest doing the same things you did to make it work the first time
like deleting files or reinstalling (make sure to back up saves first)
restarting your pc also helps most of the time to clear background apps taking up memory
did the updates work yet?
I looked at the or patch notes for the upcoming update and I didn’t see any mention of this issue
Am I reading it wrong
same i hope we are reading it wrong
No way they can just ignore this issue
I wonder if they haven’t found a solution yet so they haven’t put it on the list
It may just be a list of issues they have solved
They did say it was incomplete
yeah but still very worried that i might have to wait months to play
They said they’re fixing crashing issues and freezing issues at the loading screen
Sounds rather familiar if you ask me
Don’t worry, that probably just means they are still working on a reliable fix (as Mike said yesterday)
Nate also commented this on the forums: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/214319-week-one-adventures/&do=findComment&comment=4251192
What a week! First off, a huge thank you to all of the people who have decided to join us here at the beginning of Early Access. It’s been so exciting to see what you’ve done with KSP2’s new parts, and even though there have been some bumps in the road, it’s been so fun to explore the new Kerbola...
We already know this is one of their highest priority issues, so the chances of it getting fixed in the first patch are high
it says they are fixing it
Anyone know when the update will come out
My guess would be next week I hope but no one knows
K thx
I am guessing 13 days (3 weeks after the release)
unless we annoy the devs so much that they release a small patch early
I’m guessing annoying the devs isnt exactly the best way to motivate them to get it out earlier
I'm guessing 12.6854
I have 16 GB it isnt a RAM issue
I always get “clock watchdog timeout” blue screen with it
Which is system not communicating with cpu apparently
It didnt work
Rebooting the pc and/or launching through the exe file seems to have worked for me
Bro you get bluescreened
Not every time, but sometimes
That’s wack
Not ideal
Mine just freezes
Doesn’t even stop the music
when i had the bug it played the music on ⛽ for a short moment before it started to break up and glitch, sometimes it would push through all the way until the game closed
i jinxed myself
Oof, I hate when that happens
now it isnt opening from steam, it just says this forever (so far), no second launch window pops up yet
and when i try the .exe file in the folder?
bam
hello ⛽ my old friend
i mean i havent played the game since sunday last week but i was not expecting this
im just gonna let steam lie to me and "run the game" while i play chess for a few hours
I’ve you tried rebooting the pc
yeah probably
well i wanted to mess with the new kraken drive and fly into the bol but ig not
try verifying integrity of game files
im assuming there isnt a simple verify integrity of game files button?
there is
oh
it's in game properties
lesgoo
game properties > local files
good?
that's slightly concerning
or should i "close" the "running" game
yeah probably
aight
sometimes if the game crashes I think steam fails to recognize that it crashed and thinks that it's still running
that seems better
it has returned for me, yes, but that isnt my biggest problem
.
have h tried just uninstalling?
im thinking about it but itll take another hour or so
at that point im pretty sure the ⛽ will be back regardless
the what?
why will it take so long?
the install
why does it take that long lol
yet another glorious + to having a laptop
how far under specs r u
that is a great question
this might be a hint:
i dont know how to tell which specs are under
why are you even trying lol
no trying to run the game
it is worth the effort tho
well its not really effortful
i just gotta wait for time to pass
so yeah
most things would be tho
wait maybe not most things
whatever
ok i got a uhhhh
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 for the gpu
so absolutely 0 idea if thats above or below minimum
definitely below
the minimum is a rtx 2060 or gtx 1070 ti
these words mean nothing to me
however you can try adding -screen-quality Fastest to your launch options for massively boosted fps in some cases
i cannot read
smh
look idk this nerd stuff
the only idea i had on what these names meant is if the number is higher that means better
but its literally in between the two
so idk
within a generation, so the first two numbers, yes this is true
but the generations overlap a decent amount in performance
and 16 series is not very good
but apparently a 10 is?
so 16 = 20?
sorta
do i have to like
16 + 4 does equal 20
study lists of these names to learn which is better or is there a way to just tell from any given name
it's complicated
clearly
anyway that doesnt matter, i have 8gb of ram
and apparently not all of it i can use, its like 7.7
in that case don't even bother
wow impressive
well hold on
i know it cant run ksp 2 as of now
but would you call those specs "good" or is my pc a potato
from a more educated persons assessment than my own
well a potato for gaming purposes
yeah at least it can run youtube and google drive
i have no sense of scale so ill believe it
anyway, other than ram, how far under specs am i?
for gpu, pretty far...
your cpu is probably fine though
this game does not really require that fast of a cpu
hmmm
im gonna get a job when this term ends because i have like no classes the last one, so im wondering if it would be worth it to invest in building a brand new pc or upgrade this one
is this a laptop
i still have the sticker on the uh "base?" of it
not in a laptop
welp
get a brand new pc
for good gpu, I would suggest at least a 30/40 series nvidia or 6000/7000 series amd
well if we talking about a brand new pc, i might as well exceed "good" too
im talking with my friend about it who is very knowledgeable in this stuff, thank you for your time
a bunch lol

I have a normal laptop (asus) with both integrated graphics and a GPU
I have no clue, it just came that way🤷🏻♂️
I never even expected to use it for gaming lol
Not that its great at that, but modded ksp1 is manageable so yay haha
that's a totally common thing lmao
look at most "gaming" laptops
^^^
aww you lucky thing you have satisfactory
This is actually done for power reasons. You use the integrated on non-graphics intense tasks, and the discrete fires up for gaming/video editing etc. When plugged in, it doesn't matter, but if mobile this really helps with battery life.
(though tbh, I use a gaming laptop as I can go from place to place with it, but pretty much always use it plugged in)
Don't gaming laptops usually not have a particularly good battery life anyway?
Depends. Mine (ASUS advantage g15) has a 90Wh battery and can last all day if not on the discrete GPU. It's pretty high spec though, not sure if there are other manufacturers laptops with similar battery sizes.
any updates?
what he said
Expect an update this week methinks
oh yeah i constantly keep my laptop plugged in
like 99% of its life has been on a charger
so the battery is probably ruined
yeah, I've noticed that with several games
Had the same thing
They are probably still working on it and did not announce it because of that.
yeah i gathered that
Thought they said expect no update this week
Any updates?
Bad updates

@errant kernel STOP SPAMING "ANY UPDATES" WE JUST NEED TO WAID
it’s cause it’s pumping the sim. basically testing your computer. to my knowledge that’s what is happening
Any updates?
No updates 

No updates 



dont expect it anytime soon







guys no spam @merry brook
omg bro why. even mike joined in
idk why he did but he knows the rules
dude edit pinged the mod 😭😂😂
and?
that doesn’t do anything bruh also leave em alone we’re just having a bit of fun
It’s time for the favorite game of
Any updates
No updates 
Stay tuned for tommorrow where we ask the same question
And probably come to the same conclusion lol
Imagine if Dakota also joined in
Just havin' fun! Solidarity 
yea
We appreciate it Mike😆
Sorry for wondering. I paid $50 to support the crew, but I haven't been able to play the game for a week and a half. All our support is with them, but as a player and astrophysicist, all I expect in return is playing the game.
I'm fine with all the bugs, I just want to be able to create a save
I was one of the lucky few to get the pumping sim once bug solved on day one, but I still wait for the first update as I personally cannot enjoy the game in its current state
hopefully they manage to fix the most egregious bugs like this one along with many others
Hope so
in a playable state I could see myself getting addicted
neither could us i have played a bit but it does not work chill
I truly understand the frustration, i’ve been jealous watching other people play too (even despite the bugs). On the other hand i understand they don’t just want to push out a patch that fixes maybe 2 or 3 of the worst issues, but doesnt improve the state of the game much. I’d rather have them take the time they need to get rid of more bugs, so the game will be even more fun to play once we can. Patience can be really hard sometimes, but we’re all in this together!

Also @unborn ore ; yes, we need to wait, but there’s nothing wrong with people asking for updates from time to time if they don’t bother the devs while doing so. Beans’ reactions to yes/no updates are actually quite funny lol
Speaking of which, updates! #🔷ksp2_general message
gasps

My game is stuck creating view controller don't know why

I get stuck at Pumping Sim Once
welcome

This is basically the waiting room for everyone with the Pumping Sim Once issue
Oh
I'm at the right place
If you guys open the log file at the root of the game (it is named Ksp2.log), at the top you should find your hardware settings. Is there a lot of you where it shows a lower amount of RAM than there should be and the wrong GPU selected (for laptop users).
Also is the last line in the file something else than [AudioSettings] KSPEventAudioManager audio settings set!
Upgraded from "coming weeks" to "coming days"!!!!
TRULY one of the updates ever... dare I say among the most welcomed
I just that hope they fixed the roster data issue too. I am still questioning why I bought win11 home single language lol
That’s regarding information about the update, not the update itself
Update is coming out “shortly”
Any updates?
No updates
But
I do believe the big update is coming Friday or Saturday
Big loading stuck news tomorrow!!
It's stuck at PUMPING SIM ONCE!?!?!?! I don't know how to fix this ahhh. Any solutions?
lol
welcome to the gang
there are a few you can try but once you load you will most likely get more loading issues
search "pumping sim once" on youtube
but no guarantees many of us still cant play
but the patch to fix it will most likely be soon
let me have this.
Launch from exe, and/or reboot the pc
Otherwise all you can really do is wait for the patch lmao
It is getting fixed in the first patch though so that’s nice
Lmao I tried everything, nothing works. But thanks for the tip guys. Looks like we really need to wait for the patch.
Anyways, I can actually start the game properly, no problems. But if I start a campaign, that's where the problem "Pumping Sim Once" arises. I'm shocked that I can get in the loading screen (I have 4gb of RAM, so I believe this can probably do it, even if it's lesser than the recommended specs, I have an Acer Nitro 5 here.)
Pumping Sim Once uses 71% of the 4gb RAM, that's why I believe it can run, but not too fast. I'm just testing the game though, not the hard user type of person.
other 29 percent is probably windows and whatever applications you have open
No wonder I was only able to go to the title screen
I have 12GB ,whit nothing else open it goes up to 99% tho
I've seen the game go up to 22GB of ram usage a few times. It's approaching DCS VR levels.... which ain't good
I have 16Gb it isn’t a RAM issue
Keep in mind They have done little to no optimization at this point
That's not a priority Though
It is now
Holy
what have i missed?
Ayy that’s promising!
where updates
in 5 hours
Bro used wrong emote
Today I got bored and tried reaching the top (yup that was the worst idea in existence)
the beginning of time(or the end up to you)
soo no fix for this yet right?
same
you will know when there is a fix
i feel like @worldly wyvern is never here but he created it?
Leave it open for others
It only worked on my laptop which has slightly better specs than my pc
For me it’s a spec issue
dam
News is supposed to come today
Its 10:30AM for the devs rn, i suspect in 2 1/2 thers gonna be an update
Nothing about pumping sim though :(
Cringe
Holy crap Lois!
Fingers crossed
kinda funny, but the big update is conveniently coming the day that people wont be able to refund anymore
do we know this bug will be patched?
it’s high on the priority list, but specific mentions in the patch reports that are coming up haven’t been seen
updates?
^ Yes updates 
any known fix?
Thursday. (whether it will fix the issue currently unknown)
there are a bunch actually
Fix KSP2 Stuck On Loading Screen,Fix KSP2 Not Loading On PC
Step 1) Restart PC
Step 2) Verify the game files
Step 3) Skip the launcher
\KSP2_x64.exe" %command%
Step 4) Launch the game from game installation folder
Step 5) Run as administrator
Step 6) Try changing windows language to English
Step 7) If able to launch the game use Alt + Tab
Step ...
not my vid
but some of these changes work just be cautious
would that be the 16th?
bug fix on thursday?
Looks to be that date yes (depending on timezones etc.) I know that 'issues preventing people playing the game' are high on the priority list, so hopefully a fix for this makes it in.
(Proviso: I am a moderator, not a Dev and have no priveleged info to give a definitive answer)
thank you anyway!
wdym
like when you delete the intercept games folder you will remove all your saves if you have any
Bruh
Yea updates 
But
It’s coming Thursday, which is cringe

Why is Thursday cringe?
Because I’ve been waiting for 3 week’s now, and by the time I can play the game it’s been 4 weeks
I know it’s gonna be good, it’s just that it’s depressing that it’s in another week
basically none work
how much ram do you have
Yeah we’re gonna have to catch up on like 3 weekly challenges😅
If the patch is Thursday, they’ll probably release the patch notes somewhere during the course of next week. I really hope our problem is in there
SPACE PEACOCK ITS ME BEN SPACE AGANCY I REPLYED TO YOUR COMMENT TO CARNASAS VIDEO! @tender stirrup
Any updates?
Thursday
How old are you? Nobody would be yelling in all caps and @‘ing somebody over a YouTube comment. Please do not ping anybody for no good reason.
O H
that explains a few things
Raf, everyone, Please be nice.
does anyone know when blackracks volumetric clouds mod is coming for ksp?

anyone@here
Nope, if I remember correctly he did not announce that yet.
Also this thread is really starting to turn into a general channel xd
True lol
Why did you try to ping the 100+ people in this post?
That sounds like a KSP1 question, certainly not relevant to this thread
sorry guys
its been a minute. if anyone needs fuel for inspiration or motivation, i found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSsWkooeIds
I had the great pleasure of being asked to create the opening sequence for the documentary feature “THE HIGH FRONTIER - The Untold Story of Gerard K. O’Neill”.
And I’d never pass on the opportunity of visualizing space elevators, lunar cities, mass driver launch systems - not to mention a full Island Three O’Neill Colony.
Find out more about th...
I wonder if O’Neill cilinders will ever be a thing in KSP
oh probably, at the very least with mods
with all this interstellar stuff, i would expect the introduction of rotating habs, by extrapolation they may eventually be scalable into grander versions
after all, you gotta do something with all those new science points, ey?
Wow what a cool ship. I might try recreate it in ksp 2! Let me just load up the game 
That ain't a ship, it's a station--specifically, an "O'Neill Cylinder" type space colony.
Alright, But can we get a definitive answer on will pumping once be fixed or not?
We’ll know in a few days ig
surely 
no we cant lol
Big KSP2 news coming on Thursday 
3 days left, you can do this
I'm sad that I may never fly the KSC to orbit nor have my parked craft teleport to me like some weeping angel
No updates 
||Until Thursday||
why when i have eve and scatterer and stock volumetric clouds is there a ring around kerbin
any ideas
No idea, I haven't encountered that issue, and by the way, that is a question belonging in #🔸ksp1_modding @unborn ore
Good thing Tuesday and Thursday aren’t that far appart😅
Germanic paganism god names y u liek dis
Yis, only a 48 hour difference, after 3 years + 3 weeks, I believe you can wait 3 days instead of 1 too:D
May we all enjoy this fantastic game in 3 days
Only if my computer does not explode lol
‘3 years, 3 weeks, 3 days’ would honestly be a great catchphrase for the Pumping Sim Once gang lol
any fix?
Not yet, but there’s a patch coming Thursday
Do we know if it’s gonna be fixed?
Partial patch notes are on the forums.
link should be in either #announcements or #dev_tracker
Does it say that it’s gonna fixed
look for yourself
It mentions crashes and loading issues when going to the VAB
It doesn’t specifically mention “pumping sim once”
at least it wasnt tuesday but you read thursday
wait that doesnt
the joke is that those are farther apart technically
At this point it isn’t 100% confirmed, but seeing as this is a high priority issue for them the chance is rather high
Beans, there is an update!
YES UPDATES 
it’s the worst bit about this server everything is buried so quickly
I love that we've become so wholesome about the updates thing<3
🤯
Apparently heating won't be in patch one so I can still fly something into Kerbol's singularity
They should only fix pumping sim once, so that we get to experience the bugs too 
Yes please, we want to fly kraken drives and crash into the KSC while in orbit too!
Start the countdown T-3 Days
Game loaded for me today
Truly a great day
And it loaded to the 20 fps playing, and not the 5 fps like it normally does
I can now rest easy as I wait for the patch
Here, I started it.
https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/3929863/ksp2-patch-1-release-countdown-utc
To the release day, not the release time.
Props for putting it in UTC💪🏻
Alright thanks
YOOOOOO ITS WEDNESDAY SO THAT MEANS THE PATCH IS TOMORROW 🥳
it's tuesday my dude
nope
patch is thursday in whatever timezone the devs use
so for you the patch might be on friday

and that's assuming they don't find any blocking bugs in the patch and need to delay it
PST. They’re in Seattle
likely Friday for me sadly, but still soon
Dakota said they’re still targeting Thursday in #🔷ksp2_general earlier today
"still targeting" means "we haven't found any blockers yet"
not "this release date is set in stone"

@silver vine
"current plan" = "still targeting"
my previous statement stands.
I'll admit it's probable
but it's not guaranteed yet
As is pretty much everything in life
given that the material realm is technically governed by quantum activity, which in nature does not allow you to be certain about the future, then nothing will ever be guaranteed
its like the apple in the box. the entire earth could randomly turn into a massive banana, thus every forecast we have right now would be wrong
except the ones about certain regions of earth turning yellow. those would be certain
The patch release date is like eating something off the floor. Something bad might happen, but you take the risk because you’re hungry
No, i take the risk because i’m trying to get food poisoning
That too
Solution (maybe): I had this issue before, ever since I see the loading screen I press the timewarp buttons, first I pause ( " , " and " . " keys I believe) and then un-pause the "loading screen", and you can hear the sound effect of those buttons. So, pause, unpause and then wait and the loading bar finishes and the game loads properly.
If you have a french keyboard it would be the following keys: " , " " ; " and " : "
that sounds like a different kind of issue, most of us here have trouble loading into a campaign (gets stuck on pimping sim once). I haven't even been able to play the game yet🥲
Yes I understand, but you should be able to still push these keys, even in the loading screen, it's just a proposition because the issue is similar to the one I have (even if I have been able to start a campaign, it's still worth a try)
different issues are commiting the same outcome i believe
if this issue gets fixed tomorrow, i’d actually really like to know what caused it
Seems to be something quite complex in any case
an update on the update

UPDATES

It’s officially patch day!!
THE UPDATE
Hopefully no more of this tomorrow 🙏🙏🙏
surely

