#Regional pricing unfair
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Not in North America
laughs in european
That a f-ing lie lol, the place I live in don’t have vat but along top 10 expensive for any take two games, unlike other games that follow steam recommended price
They price like a console game, but look retail console games can be discounted quite fast
#1078683192615243796 message
Hey, I just made an email template can I share?
yes please
For unfair regional pricing ofc.
alright
Subject: Concerns Regarding Exorbitant Regional Pricing of KSP 2
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to express my concerns regarding the exorbitant regional pricing of the game Kerbal Space Program 2 (KSP 2) in [country/region]. The recommended price of KSP 2 is [price in local currency], but it is available in [country/region] for an excessively high price of [price in local currency], which is significantly higher than the recommended price. This is an unfair pricing strategy that puts [country/region] consumers at a disadvantage.
The regional pricing of KSP 2 in [country/region] is significantly higher than the recommended price, which is based on the purchasing power of consumers in developed regions like the United States and Europe. This high pricing strategy in [country/region] puts it out of reach for many consumers who may want to enjoy the game at its full potential.
Moreover, it is important to note that the pricing strategy of KSP 2 in [country/region] fails to take into account the economic conditions and the purchasing power of [country/region] consumers. The minimum wage in [country/region] is significantly lower than that of developed countries, and charging such an exorbitant price for the game puts it beyond the reach of most consumers in the region.
The high pricing strategy of KSP 2 in [country/region] is a clear example of price gouging, where consumers are charged excessively high prices for a product or service, typically during times of high demand or scarcity. This is an unethical business practice that takes advantage of consumers and exploits their purchasing power.
I urge you to reconsider the regional pricing of KSP 2 in [country/region] and set a fair price that takes into account the economic conditions and the purchasing power of [country/region] consumers. This will not only be beneficial to [country/region] consumers, but it will also help to promote ethical business practices that treat all consumers fairly.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
[Your Name]
@tranquil robin
can anyone review it though?
Just my 2cents, the regional price is damn high for mine, even Sons of the forest is cheaper than KSP2 and provides a better gameplay experience despite early access and its stable. Should release it with a lower price or give discount until its released.
Like in my country, The sons of forest is released at RM72, while KSP is at RM159, while suggested steam is RM110. It should around the pricing of KSP1 around RM70-100 imho
Mexican peso get lower price
Pakistan is in the lead.
this is an default respond do not fall for this trick
still same for Turkish lira
how and why a game expensive than $ price lol
ppl in Turkey must pay 10% of minimum wage to get ksp2
Yesterday sons of the forest released 280 turkish liras its much more affordable and all of my friends bought the game. No one wants to get ksp2
looks good to me
anyone know who decides the price dev or publisher?
Same here in germany. Although its 50 euros. People just get sons of the forest and play multiplayer. Sadly. For 30 or 40 bucks it would have been ksp for me
I figured out smth, publisher of ksp2 (Private Division) released a game month ago called "OlliOlli World: VOID Riders" and regional pricing is perfect. They used Steam's currency calculator. But for ksp2 they just googled it "how much is 50$ in x" lmao
that's a good point. It can be integrated in the email.
Game is DRM-Less i can just download the game and start from exe file but i want to support development of ksp2
devs/publisher doesnt lol
Good morning all
Mexican peso price adjustment is promising
Glad for ksp2 fans there
Let's see if situation improves for other regions
I guess since quite a lot of mexican work on ksp 1 and ksp 2, and then they look at the price wth who can afford it, then adjust it
Turkish lira and CIS price is still quite absurd
Look at the average salary in the CIS, and the price tag of early access
Are there any questions left?
CIS is Computer Information Systems
or CIS countries?
Commonwealth of Independent States, most of the former ussr states become independents
A default reply isn't really a trick though, it's giving the same answer to the same question
At least my initial thought is that it is better than some previous statements, but that "unfair" could seem a bit emotional
^
I mean it's basically the same question we're asking
Like there's literally a copy-paste template in this thread
More than 1 people can have the same concern
But its absurd to paste the same nonsense low effort answer to everyone
All corps do that and i hate it
I hate it "righteously"
Im back, what did i miss since yesterday?
Also update, remember how u said it would be huge losses to resell the game to key sellers? Well a credoble and safe site i know is selling tons in switzerland that apparently swiss people bought and rly rly didnt wanna keep.
I'm not denying that, but it's still the same question being asked by different people
Its now being sold there for $37.50 like damn that huge of a worth decrease on day 2 says a lot. I on purpose wont name the site to not get warned
It's saturday, decisions almost never get made on a saturday
we talking about regional pricing, ofc it's about countries
they added regional price, but bad one lol
it is same as other take two games, aside mexico maybe
Mexican price decreased significantly and Mexican pesos is nearly equal to Turkish lira. However we should not forget the first game was developed by a Mexican team so Squad could have intervened.
More than 1/10 of minimum wage.
I don't like the weekend argument because they clearly can change the price for other countries.
Human support agents don't make pricing-decisions
I think Cloyd is doing his best, you can't expect a personalized response (esp if this is L1 support)
Haven't done a lot of low-level flying yet, but that's a discussion for a different channel probs
I don't see a reason to, there's not a lot new things to say for at least a few days
It's too early to say
I hope they'll do regional prices, because with our inflation it's just impossible to buy ksp2 in Ukraine
alright, what how should I re-frame. Should I mention that their another release had recommended regional pricing, but KSP 2 does not follows it?
My first thought would be to wait until tuesday or wednesday
Because they'll be in office monday and start working on stuff
but yeah I do think that you should consider something like "does not T2 pricing on other games of comparable USD pricing"
Yeah and stuff like inflation can make things incredibly difficult
i personally believe that this argument may not be the strongest one, and unless it applies to the majority of consumers in a specific region, it may not hold much weight. It seems like if someone is making a decision, they may not be making the wisest financial choice and could potentially be in a state of poverty.
Even for Ukraine's capital city it's too much for a game, so i think it applies to the majority of costumers in Ukraine
If i knew that i can't afford it's current price only because of my economical position, i wouldn't complain about it
yes, the full story is that some dude from Luhansk said it identified him as from ukraine and the price was about 5000 rubles for them which is around 80 bucks, i might have messed up the percent but my point still stands
On deocupided territories of Ukraine ksp2 costs 1600 gryvnas, which is ~45 USD
whats youre source 
I live here, in Kiev
fair enough
heres the full story
idk whats the difference between your pricing and lpr pricing but taketwo done messed up, 45$ is still a lot for Ukraine
Surely you just buy food, if its between KSP2 and food, you choose food
i think i realised, its because he was viewing it in epic games store
maybe the prices are different from store to store
Up
Up to tis^
And i didn't complain if ksp1 don't cost ~200 gryvnas which is ~5 dollars lol
normal conversion from UAH to RUB is 1:2
1 UAH = 2 RUB
LPR converion
1 UAH = 3 RUB
add bank commission here and get almost 5k rubles
hi all
hi
since take two doesn't use steam recommended price I think the price is not store dependent
they used another released game 1 month ago
price change in mexico gives me hope
anybody know the reason?

im thinking of getting the ksp1 dlcs and just mod ksp1 and never buy ksp2
im just curious if they returned the money to those who bought it for the old price
For Ukraine and Kazakhstan the price is +70% to the recommended price. It turns out 45 dollars. I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but the minimum Kazakhstani salary is $150, mine is about 500-550. I pay the bills for the apartment for the same $45.
The current price is just insane for ea.
And with that terrible state that I saw on the streams, and read in the Steam reviews, even the recommended one seems to me an overprice
if they refunded through the store they bought from
yup
agreed
in ukraine minimum wage is about 200$
also most of us here would just patiently wait for mulltiple years of slow development if they priced it reasonably
that was my plan
447$ min wage here and its barely enough to get by
if the game costed reasonably and performed as bad as it is i wouldnt complain
before the raise it was less than 300$
what is it
i never really modded ksp1
i did a ffew times but mods sucked i just decided to wait for next game for years
will look into it ty
i dont know if it even matters, this channel doesnt provide official support after all
I was going to buy the game on the first day. I could probably buy at the current price, as I waited a long time. But thanks to my bosses for sending me on a business trip for a week. I was able to look at real reviews on YouTube, cool down my expectations and the desire to buy, especially for SUCH a price, immediately disappeared.
i was able to get it on first day only because i live in germany now and its a bit easier to get this much money, because 1 euro = 36₴ after steam conversion
if i was still in ukraine i would never ever buy ksp2
like, dayz costs 999₴ and its still hella lot for a game
i own it only because my friend gifted it to me
otherwise idk if i got to play it
they have discounts tho
lol yea
but 600₴ is still a lot for a game lmao
not ridiculously big price tho
yep i got ksp1 for 44₴ and dlcs for like 400₴ combined
oh no just checked maybe like 200-250₴ for dlcs
and then suddenly ksp2 for 1600₴
i mean ksp is never as popular as CoD why not just grow your community with thoughtful steps
i think it has to do with the publisher rather than developer but i dont know that
i never looked up the politics behind ksp
i heard something like that private division fired all squad team and then hired them at a lower wage
dont know if true tho
+13 angery
i bought the new forest game
they priced it quite reasonably
just done downloading
280 TRY
they deserve the money i saved for ksp2 honestly
i would pay up to 500 too tbh
280 TRY is cheap imo
hats off to them
relatively
slightly cheaper early access
i respect
price increase when 1.0 out
full respect
ask for full price with unjust selective regional pricing for a sh** early access
i go mad
My friend bought it yesterday but he requested a refund.
If we remove obscene expressions from his story, then on his i7 12700 and 3090 he not only caught critical bugs (I met almost all of them here in the technical section) and crashes, but the game also started to slow down at random moments up to 5-10 fps even on fullhd and medium settings.
dear god
thats 4 full minimum wage salary for 32K
given that you can not save any money on min wage here

see the price charts on the right
lol
how unstable economy is
idk who would even buy it for this price
maybe some gamer oligarchs lmao
i want to try play ksp2 a bit more but i have only 30 minutes until 2 hours played
u bought with gift cards too right?
yep
i understand
btw i find funny that when i said that the game is unplayable rn in #🔷ksp2_general i was answered something like "you knew what you were paying 50$ for, play ksp 1.0 then"
and then when i said that 5/5 launches my rocket disappeared for no reason i was ignored lmao
and why would i even play ksp 1.0
love this kind of guys
still no info on patch/bug fix schedule smh
why would they include it in this version?
the game weighs only 11 gb tho
i was expecting 40
vall is jool's moon
strange
but there are ksp1 channels here
up
That's a separate discussion
KSP1 with DLCs costs about 4k INR, KSP2 costs ~3k INR. The amount's quite a bit for the average person here, but I don't think KSP2 pricing is worser than KSP1s.
tbf swiss and israeli prices are ridiculous in most steam games
question to you guys. on keyseller sites (official ones) i get like 12€ discount. does that work for turkey players?
38€ instead of 49.99€ is... I like to compare it to sons of forest
damn
g2a and mmoga e.g. But didnt they say the wanna higher the price after EA? i mean. even higher? lul
I mean. I can understand the pricing. but KSP never was a triple A game and it was always a lovely indie company, fair prices, nice community. I fear that this kills all vibes coming with it
May want to try discussion of certain sites, a lot of publishers don't like them
Squad still exists, but they're not a game-dev (never were)
I just dont buy games, or wait till they are below 20€. but damn. pirating will go strong with this one
They are still a company. not any mod will give an official statement of a company. The whole team has to make a decision either lowering the prices, giving a statement or (which i doubt) ignoring the whole community
They were a marketing-company that also made a game
They did, but that was a side-business
Yes, so don't expect a reply today
Not to mention that this may require discussing with T2, which requires corporate meetings
I mean a lot of companies run on a 5 day week
i think after such a release they already did one
Give it a few days at least
thats the best we can do rn
some other countries may get too
We hope so
like what is the point of lowering the price in mexico only
Yeah you can't things to instantly change
yuh
because squad is a mexican company or what lol thats the only connection i can find
I think squad’s team is fromw mexico thats could be the reason for it
i dont think thats the case too but i dont have any other ideas
That it was 1000 exactly sounds to me like someone set the wrong price somehow, it's too round
imo thats a long time problem
still to much to developabout the game
ksp looks fine
but
not with the gameplay
Most of what people are complaining about are a few issues
ill wait till the sale
if there is no localized pricin
but rn game looks like unfinished cacao cream
What I mean is that features obv bugs and perf will be fixed, this is an 0.1 release
I hope itll
bcz matt lowne said most if the bugs (in his video) will be fixed until the ea release
tbf some of them were fixed
twr is also in the game
of course not all of them
lmao
p.s. take 2 is the owner of private division
aiight boys lets blame the gamers for these stock prices
-taketwo or smh
That's on a 1y timeframe, it's not that bad on a 5y or YTD timeframe
In fact YTD they're up 6%
yeah but it is still going down this year🤷♂️
that true
Who knows, I'm not a financial analyst, nor do I have a crystal ball
just noticed that someone reacted on this thread with a laughing emoji
nice
"haha imagine not living in america"
bruh
I just remembered. Trigon: Space Story came out last year (before the suggested prices were changed) and at the beginning there were also disgusting regional prices. But developers listened to the community and fixed and lowered the prices, but it took a week.
So even if they hear us here and even agree, there will most likely be no price changes until the end of next week.
In short, too many "if"
and its 8/1 of the minimum wage. I dont think someone is gonna buy a game that expensive in there
you wouldnt be able to play it anyway, broken
i think marketing team is knows better that if price is lower, maybe 10 times more person is gonna buy it
as i see, most of the people in turkey is fine to 500-400try because its an early access game
It's hard to say where that "price v sales" balance is
but the price is too high
Perhaps, but 10x sales is guesswork
yes but charging 40 dollars for a game in a country where piracy is a commonplace is not a very smart decision either
its an example, as i said, the marketing team probably know better
but im pretty sure if its gonna be half of the price, sales will be more twice or little bit more than twice
yeah, i know
im saying people are fine if its 400-500try
It'd have to be more than half to make sense
but the game price is 50$ so thats the reason
sons of the forest is 30$ and 280try so
So that'd be 466 TRY for KSP
yeah
do you guys know someone who bought the game for 1000 mexican pesos?
KSP is worthy for that kinda price tag but not right now maybe on full release
+++
i expected 900 uah for it
sike
tbf it would be a fair price for 1.0 not for early access
600-700 uah for ea
900 uah is 460 try
and this is 310-360 try
well now i know 1 try is almost exactly 2 uah
at least i wont need to convert prices every time to understand how much money you guys are talking about lol
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do you speak IT!?
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Aha
Leave it
If I see you write you are enjoying this server
Website steam
Epic games
looks like skill isue
Hello kid
How is school?
Did u do your homework?
Its pretty late you need go to bed
Average argument when you don`t know what to say 
Actually I was just amused of an individual trolling and being frustrated.
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@past blaze if u warn me for anti social behaviour
Then look at my messages before
Its a kid and I would do that another time. He is trolling
Both of you have been warned
bro will be like 💀
I don't think anyone has a great position here.
The number of reports this one thread has generated is quite incredible.
If you use a hierarchical system in modern society, it says a lot about you...
respect to squad 
most of them because people discuss piracy as an option due to unreasonable regional prices
I don't think they are stepping down from their regional prices hill
Does something against the server rules, gets punished for it, blames it on something we have no power over. No matter the reason the rules are the rules.
blames
bros tripping 💀
idk
I do not just a way to show ignorance and no respect
juan
The way you choose to show this, says a lot too
🇯🇺🇦🇳
i just checked, its still unavailable in russia
Thanks for the report though, you did the right thing
misplaced in time
Well dilemma
mods are promoting 1984 😡😡
Why are you reporting when you know you get punished lol
literally me
I dont think regional prices is gonna add soon. Maybe a couple weeks later
if they even gonna add
:(
because regional pricing needs a research of a country economic state
we start throwing violence on streets because of a digital item!! am genius 😡😡
Wait until time bends reality into the right position so we can move on
we are almost on 3k messages and still no mod response
there not even any fix updates rn so as i said, its gonna be happen in a couple weeks if its even gonna happen
@nocturne fern @buoyant acorn @gilded bobcat
I apologize in advance for a little bad English, it's not my native language.
Dear Community Managers since you're ignoring the biggest thread at #1074830191769178212, we decided to summon you here.
I am writing to express our concerns regarding the exorbitant regional pricing of the game Kerbal Space Program 2 (KSP 2) in many countries. The recommended price of KSP 2 is check screenshot, but it is available for an excessively high price in local currency, which is significantly higher than the recommended price. This is an unfair pricing strategy that puts country/region consumers at a disadvantage.
The regional pricing of KSP 2 in country/region is significantly higher than the recommended price, which is based on the purchasing power of consumers in developed regions like the United States and Europe. This high pricing strategy in country/region puts it out of reach for many consumers who may want to enjoy the game at its full potential.
Moreover, it is important to note that the pricing strategy of KSP 2 in country/region fails to take into account the economic conditions and the purchasing power of country/region consumers. The minimum wage in country/region is significantly lower(
For example
50$ =
Russia: 1/4 of minimal monthly wage.
Ukraine: 1/5;
Turkish: 1/8;
Iran: Guy wrote here 3/1, he just need to work 3 month to pay for the game.
and many other countries;)
than that of developed countries, and charging such an exorbitant price for the game puts it beyond the reach of most consumers in the region.
The high pricing strategy of KSP 2 in country/region is a clear example of price gouging, where consumers are charged excessively high prices for a product or service, typically during times of high demand or scarcity. This is an unethical business practice that takes advantage of consumers and exploits their purchasing power.
I urge you to reconsider the regional pricing of KSP 2 in country/region and set a fair price that takes into account the economic conditions and the purchasing power of country/region consumers. This will not only be beneficial to country/region consumers, but it will also help to promote ethical business practices that treat all consumers fairly.
Also today we saw situation with price decrease at Mexico, which is quitly unfair to other countries
I understand perfectly well that you are not in charge of this, but I hope that our words will reach the top management.
I would also like to draw attention to the situation of blocking sales in Russia, I think that the gaming industry as a whole should not get into politics, but even so, the citizens of the country are not guilty of the acts of their goverment and as a player from .
And as a player from the frontline zone (LPR - Luhansk People's Republic), I am extremely upset by the inability to buy and, in general, even afford such a high price tag.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
KSP community
o wait i typed mod instead of dev
CHAD
honestly respectable action
turkish 1/8 not 10
bro is based
fixed
dude
thanks
also fixed
even if i get banned, at least i will know that the company is so unwilling to listen to their players
They dont deserve a f*ing second plan honestly, hear us out or we out
we got lives to live
even if s**tty
we need to record that moment
to show to the people
if its gonna happen
Hoping for gods(devs) mercy - the only thing we can do
if you ping a person the dude automatically gets added to the thread, it doesnt mean they are looking at this
fr tho is it that hard
dude almost everyone has ksp1 now
also this
i dont, they didnt even let me get it for free on egs
i got it but it got removed from my account presumably because taketwo got in charge of it and also blocked the sales to russia
at least marketing
Most of the people who bought games on Steam with steam suggested pricing started to buy with the thought that the price might increase
respect
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everyone talking about logs but noone talking about planks 
what journalist thing
log it all share it if something happens etc
do you know instant-gaming ?
if someone wants to
do you know who joe is
yes but why you ask?
they are being racist to non mexicans 😡😡
we need some statement
real
im racist🏎️ to mexicans🌮
because they can just ignore a couple people
Joe
me
who is joe?
joe bidome
milestone reached
“cant send this because it contains content blocked by this community” lmao
Бачу рідну мову :3
як тобі цінник в 1600 гривень?💀
speak english
Та я в шоці, я на ці гроші можу 2 тижні прожити
ok
ok
Бляха, не можу не погодитися
to lazy to remember ukrainian
ї
Will try
пздц
(it is just a random letter and not a word please dont break my ribs with a metal bar)
many people spammed it
someone was reacting to mod msg
think it was fair
no you can still react with clown emoji
Hey, did you really buy the game?
yep
traitor
я вахуї
Omg
gave up two 20€ gift cards and was still 32₴ short lmao
i was laughing so hard because of this
its like 1 dollar
why tho
i bought the game and understood it is not worth it
That is better
what info
anyway i would buy it if i can and still VERY DISAGREE WITH PRICE, but i can't even buy it
rn its unplayable without an rtx 69420
I have GTX1650, thats why i willnt buy it NEVER
i have it too

30 fps in VAB 🤟🤟
And how plays?
Ok
Very good, definitly go and buy!
its because of some calculation problems
not graphics
my friend with 1660 said the difference between min and max graphics is like 3 fps
i tried with rx570, thats true. over my friends account
also its my birthday in 2 minutes
Conversations of two ukrainians, nothing more
i have an rx 550, howd it run?
rx550 and rx570 have a lot of difference
Aw i could of inserted my russian speech aswell

just one minute and im turning 14 
i am officially born now guys
so i recorded the gameplay and with rx570 looks like i get 40fps at vab on medium
atleast in my timezone
!Timezone
how was the actual launch
just like 10 month and im turning 22, and yeah... still cant escape from frontline
damn bro if you cant escape frontline then escape the country 
he cant
i'll build my rocket and flight over border
Guy, you now have 23:02?
its a common misconception that every russian is from moscow 
9fps on ground, 20fps after 20k meters, 25fps on 75k meters, 35fps on map, 35fps on 150km, 50fps in deep-space and 10fps on orbit around the moon in about 200km's. (all of them are average fps and when not looking into planet. because when i render the planet, i always got 5-6fps even if it is moon)
C'mon what is UTC?
I really not understand?
I know just SASt and GMT
seems like i would rather wait until i get my hands on a 1070 ti
exactly the opposite, Moscow is a separate state within Russia (a Russian joke that means that in Moscow everything is not like in any other city, the rhythm of life is too fast, etc.)
sus?
UTC is basically GMT
the fps is more stable at low settings with 4x anti aliasing
but only in the ground
Heck..
average 15fps on ground and 12-13fps on launch
I was pretty near
omg you can be in the ground in ksp2?? Im on my way to another country to buy ksp2 rn
i tried on my friends account for benchmark
omg
back in business
well
they understood their fault

also, let's be understanding of them too
Dakota is typing all QUITE
tho if they keep telling its because of "YoUr CoUntRy tAx BaD" i dont know for how long i can keep my cool
i dont think we should yk have pitchforks or smth.
lets hear em out
Reopening this one to keep discussion centralized to one thread. Be assured, we see your comments about this topic but for now we don't have any updates. When we do have one, we'll communicate here as soon as possible.
thanks for responding
thanks for responding
and im sorry some of us acted out of line
thanks
and joked about not so cool stuff like 🅱️ iracy
finally, thanks for response and hope you guys have some updates asap
well some joked but tbf its a commonplace in my country and making such high price for a game only supports piracy
3145 commnts!
they wanna stick on the price 😭
i bet if you opened a purchase map
less than 3 people from my coutnry have game
shhh no discussions about it.
we want to be a part of the community legally and support it honestly, we wouldnt just chat here full time just for trolling
Please make sure to keep discussion about this topic civil and to not ping developers asking for updates. If you see anyone break the rules, please use the report feature to notify the mods. Appreciate y'all's patience and passion for the game 💚
and people are sharing data and useful media regarding the subject
thanks again for listening to us and taking the time to respond
yeah, hope you guys are gonna understand our problems and fix it asap
i really appreciate that you guys are paying attention to community’s requests
well, lets keep this thread alive with only this discuss until we got an update. We just have to wait now
Thanks for the feedback. We are waiting and hoping. 
I think people here are quite serious. But, for me, it’s impossible to relate to what is happening with ksp2 without a drop of good old black humor.
if some of us made other posts when this one closed down please close them down so we keep it clean
lol
... Wait until time bends reality into the right position so we can move on
small step for us and a giant leap for people living in subpar conditions
good message btw
clean and to the point
yep
I am just used someone text to the support, and rewrite it a little bit
If you follow a ksp2 content creator you can bring up the subject in their twitch chat or YT comments, but do not spam and make same multiple comments, also link such comments here so we can like and reply to them
to attract attention without annoying people
I personally dont follow such people but I will make sure to like and reply to your comments when you link them here
I jsut looked at the prices. Canada got the w for once
but alot of those really do sucks
seems unchanged tho
nothing changed
i dont know about canadas economy except for housing crisis
but since the start canadian not gettin screwed by pricing for once. but i can see how my friends ofer the pond are getting a bigger price
Im saying how normly canada is included in palces with high regional pricng
It is odd
also norway
i wanna kknow how swis frank is so high
Whats the GDP there
is it just insane
remind this to people throughout the day without spamming
when im not here
to do so
I wonder if the blocked in russia thing will be adressed by the devs too
yeah that seems like a bigger thing honestly
based on us dollers here
Uk has a lower gdp per captia but and a weeker doller but they pay mroe
You can read pinned message i mentioned that theme there
What other factors would contribute to that making sense
lets just not stop adressing the issue when/if they drop prices also talk about russia
Yeah but dakotas response made it unclear if only the prices are being reviewed
its about innocent people who had no choice where to be born and cant vote for elections
they cant vote tho
Time will show
votes are rigged
Either way if im not here when the devs give us an update and nothing is said about russia could yall kindly ask for me
your gonna get this forum nuked by adding politics to it
yes i rephrased it
oh ok
will do yes
do not include politics
That and year long propaganda that affected most of old people to stan mr pudding
we got their attention at least
but tbf 75% are still supporting the war
also yes shouldnt talk about politics
We can't avoid it 100% cause situation with sells, but we surely trying the best
maybe but lets not discuss it here as it is not so simple
theres a lot of controversial news about that so no one has solid ground and is supporting their government is the final answer i think
ye lets just get past that
that would be actually uncool to discuss it here
We can't loose this thread!
this is about more people being able to play ksp2
and nothing else
yes i dont want to get into politics but i just want to say that getting access to russians is not that simple of a question too
W
Friends, please do keep politics away from here. I appreciate it does affect this situation, but we don't want to be bringing it here.
We aren't locking the thread.
ty
🫡
kinda hard to not briefly go into the ground given the restriction from take two but we will try
I'am gonna sleep
good night
sleep well comrade
up
v9000
see pinned messages
if you havent
they had closed this post due to "trolling" but they reopened
thanks again for that
Yea I saw that rn
nice, they pinged the long sentence
imagine my dum dum a2$ accidentally closing the post

im scared to right click on it
Its good to see we have attention of devs, wen publishers?
community managers of publisher are here
flight directors are publisher community managers
click on their profiles
Nice
oranges are volunteers
they are just people who decided they wanted to keep this community civil
they seem professional
We are volunteers in orange. Flight Directors are PD community managers.
oh there are 2 orange
sorry lol
reddish orange is CM
orange is yes volunteer
real OG is inifnity he was here before all
real og is the kraken he has been accepting reports since day 1 on this thread
everyone chatting and having fun
"Report Sent."

🧯
I don't check the thread for a few hours and now find a lot of admins and moderator messages. Jonassovich what happened?
Basically the thread got killed by morbirators and then two more were created, after that we got an official response and the thread was reopened
Check pinned messages
So no fix?
lovla i thought you were sleeping
Same as yesterday
the issue is most likely being reported to higher ups
ah i feel bad for you
for now we can just wait for updates and keep it civil
If this works out we would have accomplished something beautiful for the KSP community.
We will be Making History™
Nah it's over but i can't fall asleep
its cant fall asleep
Thx
np
Carried our ideas with great writing. And the courage with tagging the admins.
its all good right now
btw you guys can ping me if something happens
we were blocked for “trolling”
Guys on a completely unrelated note why does PvZ OST - Ultimate Battle sound like something straight outta Death Note
Last time I listened to a Plants vs Zombies soundtrack it didn't leave my head for 3 days
Oh yes pvz soundtracks are very addictive
So recap? We got raided by mods and admins, somehow survived? And got our message to higher-ups?
yeah we started another thread bc of this and then this was restored
they said they will provide official update on the matter at hand
not raided just closed because it was deemed unfit, then reopened when devs responded because they wanted to keep this topic open and up for discussion in one place preferably
and they pinned messages for us
they said "trolling" and "OP (me) was provided an explanation"
i was not provided a well structured explanation
"YoUr CouNtRy tAx BaD" was the explanation
me too btw but i think we wont get more messages while im asleep
the feedback from op part meant that they acknowledged your message not that they provided an explanation to you lol
im just disregarding it for their sake honestly, such low effort answer
but now seemms all good
I kinda remember being "trolled" when I first saw the pricetag ngl.
lets be patient and wait for an explanation
and meanwhile mention this in ksp2 twitch stream chats in a civilized manner
also ksp2 content creator YT comments
and link the comments here so we can reply and like
and dont spam
jona hows your tweet btw
i dont expect any activity on it honestly
fair enough
im thinking of this message to this day #🔷ksp2_general message
oof
aged like milk
1.0 is so far away its kinda obvious
"and meanwhile mention this in ksp2 twitch stream chats in a civilized manner
also ksp2 content creator YT comments
and link the comments here so we can reply and like
and dont spam" remind this to people throughout the day when im not around to do so
by the time 1.0 comes around i think turkey will fix its economy 
lmao
or i'll be out in better standards to not be bothered by such matter
i hope that for all humanity lol
prob will never come true
btw are the turkey’s elections this year right?
oh thats cool
yep pretty hyped
seems promising
even more than ksp2
earthquake really showed how bad govt is
guys we are playing winners because devs acknowledged our message but remember, the publishers can be real jerks sometimes
lets just not generelize and handle this matter in its own respect
healthiest approach imo
most already knew but know everyone knows
i still have a good opinion about them so i dont give up yet
indeed but then again, this is taketwo
i still hope for the best
lets always try to be nice to the ones who consider our concerns and respond
Agreed.
i dont mind if we go mad due to low effort and copy paste responses
but today was nice
we got a nice response
like they didn't warn you all. It still counts as politics.
Devs arent publishers tho, the studio may well be for the reg prices but its up to the publishers
only civil thing to do about the matter is this honestly:
"and meanwhile mention this in ksp2 twitch stream chats in a civilized manner
also ksp2 content creator YT comments
and link the comments here so we can reply and like
and dont spam"
if you have other civil ideas speak em out
That's kinda the realty and a fact. I don't think that could be considered politics.
my thoughts also
quit being a 🤓, dude sent one message and you're already all over the place
Looks like they responded to our messages. Now we need to refrain from speaking outside of "Regional Pricing" and wait until next update/response from the Team or PDs. Hopefully with good news
hey champ relax.
truth hurts eh?
Yo chill
I didn't said it's not. Its just politics and it's not the place for it.
im sure off-topic is fine as long as its casual and civil
look man they warned 2-3 times and I'm just stating again for the reminder.
If you want to speak about gov and politics you should go to some other server to speak. This server or this thread is not the place for it
why did you write the response to their message then💀💀
of course we might talk about other stuff casually, just keep it cool
I'm here from the start of this thread and know and see how much we talked about politics within our conversations.
because regional pricing is very dependent on politics
politics hurt us all always
duh
but we should keep it civil even when we gooff topic
yes but the main thing is here "Regional Pricing" not the causes for it.
yes it is but that aspect is not really the main topic here and usually heated arguments happen in such matters
its ok to sometimes go a little bit off topic in course of discussion, we dont speak about politics all the time and always try to return to the original topic
also dont forget that there probably will be someone watching us 24/7
lets not give anyone a reason to shut us down righteously
And thats why I'm reminding again. Because it's not the place for it.
some heat goes around while doing so tho
Best to keep political discussion to DMs please.
so lets just not go that way
on god
dakota can you please assure us that this post will not be shut down because just a few decide to go off rules and punish them instead of the whole post?
It's good to see some admins/community managers are following this thread.
This thread won't be locked again unless the thread hits some sort of response cap. We're not looking to stifle complaints/feedback on anything, gameplay-related or price-related or otherwise.
ok thank you
im still gonna be asking people kindly to keep their cool even if no one is watching
when need be
Dakota, I wanted to ask, is the ksp2 blocked in russia issue gonna be adressed too?
or is it like dead on with that one
yeah we would also like that issue to be adressed too
as most of us would agree with gaming being seperate from politics
I personally think thats a tougher issue but I would personally like a response to that matter even if im not affected personally
and i think i can speak for majority here, regarding only the last few sentences i just wrote
me when im 3 minutes late to the dev response party 😢
Looks like this is the result of USA sanctions on Russia. T2's HQ is located at New York. Some of the Game Companies from USA also has no pricing for Russia. ex. Hogwarts legacy
i was here people,, messaged me like POST SHUTDOWN OMG111!!!111 lol
im glad to get a response for real
the right first step we all could ask for
nothing happens overnight so
im cool
for now
Please remember, If our criticisms get "spicy", It is because we can't play the beautiful game you guys made and spent so much effort on. Please give us the benefit of the doubt.
thanks to Lovla_MayaNyahSquad for writing and mentioning the PDs
Ksp2 has pricing for russia on epic games. Russians are also able to buy games on epic games if publishers havent went the extra mile to restrict it. They have, and its for PR which is just ridiculous.
as far as I know EGS dont have the option to restrict regions
(yet)
it does
oh ok then
I was talking about Steam but looks like T2 restricted on Epic
they have
Write the first thing you will build when they fix the pricing. I'll go first: Jet fighter
answer for "biggest project you think of attempting yet"
for people who already done some stuff in game
i built my dres rocket and lander but it couldnt get to orbit because it disappeared 5 times
laythe sat or station because i cant manage landing
i really like new dres
good one. I will go with a Apollo
actually only once but other 4 times i randomly got some notification about some decoupler’s connection being collapsed or something and that my vessel was destroyed because of it (my rocket was totally okay and it even flew further after the notification)
the bugs are crazy bruh
kraken munching on kerbals
I played KSP 2 at the European Space Agency in Noordwijk, Netherlands. I had some amazing moments and some not-so-amazing ones as well, but is the game really ready for release on February 24, 2023?
My Discord: https://discord.com/invite/rzjq8qP
KSP playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2lqjYK9wCjx5mhmlcFzrukP8cuK56K0e
i commented on this video
same name
nuh uh


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Space Shuttles! Who doesn't love them? Let's build one in Kerbal Space Program 2! Lots of twists, turns, and tragedy in store. There are also a couple of bonus missions to enjoy: the Argus interplanetary SSTO makes an appearance with a fresh coat of KSP 2 paint, and the Blunderbirds may or may not make an appearance after a particularly terribl...
i dont wanna go and comment the same issue on every ksp2 channel
so im gonna stop with 3 comments for now
if people are interested they can come and see
just checked and “loading stuck” thread also got a bunch of dev replies
yes i also went through it about 3 times
in sweden it was 552kr (49.99 euros) which is sort of the normal price for a pretty big game but also with how badly and wierd ksp 2 is i would say it should be cheaper
if its a normal price in your country its another question
still i agree with you
like if you went to a gamestop when it was open in sweden most games would be 500 to 600 kr
they shouldnt charge this much for the game in this state
like xbox and ps4 games
i think in this stage of ksp it should be cheaper because there are so many probloems with it and i know its in early access but still
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still its not about regional pricing, but about the general price instead
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General price is one thing yeah, in my opinion full release should be 50 and EA only 40
But they have literally soiled their pants with the regional pricing
didnt know that beta and ß look different in discord lol
you mean ß and ẞ?
yes
ß is just lowercase ẞ tho is it not
atleast my keyboard gives me ß if s is lowercase and ẞ if uppercase
but i digress
TIL there exists an upper case es-tzett
i thought its the beta letter
ẞß
💀
it is
Weiss = Weiß
but ß cant be upper case
so i guess its made for caps-lock
to look better when all letters are upper case
oh yea that makes sense
Walther Weiß
waltuh 
lets not forget that waltuh chose Heisenberg, german sciencist, as his alter ego
also yeah lol
Yeah maybe don't spam it
That's a separate question
1 comment per video is never spamming lol
hes back to keep us in check
thats what i said too
It is, and it's has some weird rules
that just was an addition from me that i agree with this person nonetheless


PR chaser 
I've agreed with you on other things
nate simpsons alt account😱😱😱
ok guys chill
Nate simpson among us??? 😱😱
if nate simpson saw this thread i think he would rush and do everything he can to fix this
im off to sleep gn all
have a good timewarp
yeah sate nimpson is a good guy
bro 💀💀
They have a lot of issues to deal with, and it's a weekend. Please, be patient.
Nuh uh they must work like slaves.
Guys if you wanna have chat off topic try to go DMs pls
im pretty sure the mods are fine with us just chatting here as long as everything civil
Lol i got warned for being disrespectful to other member because i asked not to use tone tags??? 💀
If you want to discuss with moderators your warns, I'm sure there are places for it, but this thread isn't it
yeah, i paid 45£ which is 54$, the pricing is unfair
fair
what is an average price for a game in uk?
full aaa is about 50£

pokemon vio was £50

Aint £ almost 1:1 for $
or am i mixing something up
no, 50$ is 41.81£
💀
oh ok mustve mixed some stuff
Oh oh yeah thats the one i was thinking about
better since the september crash
But if i Google it right minimal salary per month is like 1600-1700
*for a 20+ years old
oh that explains everything
Man... in my country we have like minimum 150$-200$ per month
And for even local prices that's nothing
same but anyway not every student is able to pay 55$ for a game
even if the situation is not as crazy as in poorer countries
true but i dont think thats their point
idk if it is the regional price problem tho
I am talking about full-time worker, no students
yeah didnt think about it
my bad
If wanna you can read pinned message
There's main point of our thread
any update guys ?
i believe we didnt get any new messages
You're not going to get any update so soon, I'm sure that if/when there is an update it will be clearly announced.
Considering it's weekends, we are gonna have to wait atleast one more day, also the message might take a while to get around in the higher ups, or get a clear answer to i should say, its gonna take like 2-3 days more, so i'd say at best we are gonna see some action around tuesday
Heres my cat
post it in #◽pets. I don't think we should diverge from the current topic.
I already wrote earlier. When in the same situation with another game, the publisher (not Private Division) changed the regional prices, it took a week
So let's sit quietly and wait for the results. 
Good morning, any updates?
that's not so fast proccess
for now we can only wait
and somehow cover this case in the media
You can raise a storm after the decision