#Regional pricing unfair

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tranquil robin
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lmao

real viper
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Not in North America

tranquil robin
mortal prism
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That a f-ing lie lol, the place I live in don’t have vat but along top 10 expensive for any take two games, unlike other games that follow steam recommended price

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They price like a console game, but look retail console games can be discounted quite fast

forest hornet
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#1078683192615243796 message

zealous tulip
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Hey, I just made an email template can I share?

tranquil robin
zealous tulip
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For unfair regional pricing ofc.

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alright

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Subject: Concerns Regarding Exorbitant Regional Pricing of KSP 2

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to express my concerns regarding the exorbitant regional pricing of the game Kerbal Space Program 2 (KSP 2) in [country/region]. The recommended price of KSP 2 is [price in local currency], but it is available in [country/region] for an excessively high price of [price in local currency], which is significantly higher than the recommended price. This is an unfair pricing strategy that puts [country/region] consumers at a disadvantage.

The regional pricing of KSP 2 in [country/region] is significantly higher than the recommended price, which is based on the purchasing power of consumers in developed regions like the United States and Europe. This high pricing strategy in [country/region] puts it out of reach for many consumers who may want to enjoy the game at its full potential.

Moreover, it is important to note that the pricing strategy of KSP 2 in [country/region] fails to take into account the economic conditions and the purchasing power of [country/region] consumers. The minimum wage in [country/region] is significantly lower than that of developed countries, and charging such an exorbitant price for the game puts it beyond the reach of most consumers in the region.

The high pricing strategy of KSP 2 in [country/region] is a clear example of price gouging, where consumers are charged excessively high prices for a product or service, typically during times of high demand or scarcity. This is an unethical business practice that takes advantage of consumers and exploits their purchasing power.
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I urge you to reconsider the regional pricing of KSP 2 in [country/region] and set a fair price that takes into account the economic conditions and the purchasing power of [country/region] consumers. This will not only be beneficial to [country/region] consumers, but it will also help to promote ethical business practices that treat all consumers fairly.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

[Your Name]
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@tranquil robin

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can anyone review it though?

solemn grove
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Just my 2cents, the regional price is damn high for mine, even Sons of the forest is cheaper than KSP2 and provides a better gameplay experience despite early access and its stable. Should release it with a lower price or give discount until its released.

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Like in my country, The sons of forest is released at RM72, while KSP is at RM159, while suggested steam is RM110. It should around the pricing of KSP1 around RM70-100 imho

forest hornet
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Mexican peso get lower price

zealous tulip
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Pakistan is in the lead.

fast delta
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this is an default respond do not fall for this trick

tranquil robin
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still same for Turkish lira

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how and why a game expensive than $ price lol

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ppl in Turkey must pay 10% of minimum wage to get ksp2 Kekbal Yesterday sons of the forest released 280 turkish liras its much more affordable and all of my friends bought the game. No one wants to get ksp2

tranquil robin
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anyone know who decides the price dev or publisher?

strange sundial
tranquil robin
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I figured out smth, publisher of ksp2 (Private Division) released a game month ago called "OlliOlli World: VOID Riders" and regional pricing is perfect. They used Steam's currency calculator. But for ksp2 they just googled it "how much is 50$ in x" lmao

zealous tulip
tranquil robin
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devs/publisher doesnt lol

marble cairn
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Good morning all

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Mexican peso price adjustment is promising

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Glad for ksp2 fans there

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Let's see if situation improves for other regions

mortal prism
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I guess since quite a lot of mexican work on ksp 1 and ksp 2, and then they look at the price wth who can afford it, then adjust it

vital geyser
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Turkish lira and CIS price is still quite absurd

meager notch
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Look at the average salary in the CIS, and the price tag of early access

Are there any questions left?

forest hornet
mortal prism
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Commonwealth of Independent States, most of the former ussr states become independents

fickle fjord
fickle fjord
mortal prism
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^

fickle fjord
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I mean it's basically the same question we're asking

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Like there's literally a copy-paste template in this thread

marble cairn
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More than 1 people can have the same concern

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But its absurd to paste the same nonsense low effort answer to everyone

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All corps do that and i hate it

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I hate it "righteously"

river arrow
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Im back, what did i miss since yesterday?

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Also update, remember how u said it would be huge losses to resell the game to key sellers? Well a credoble and safe site i know is selling tons in switzerland that apparently swiss people bought and rly rly didnt wanna keep.

fickle fjord
river arrow
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Its now being sold there for $37.50 like damn that huge of a worth decrease on day 2 says a lot. I on purpose wont name the site to not get warned

fickle fjord
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It's saturday, decisions almost never get made on a saturday

meager notch
mortal prism
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they added regional price, but bad one lol
it is same as other take two games, aside mexico maybe

somber agate
river arrow
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Well at least one country where its better

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Turkey still a months salary tho?

somber agate
somber agate
fickle fjord
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Human support agents don't make pricing-decisions

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I think Cloyd is doing his best, you can't expect a personalized response (esp if this is L1 support)

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Haven't done a lot of low-level flying yet, but that's a discussion for a different channel probs

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I don't see a reason to, there's not a lot new things to say for at least a few days

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It's too early to say

marble cairn
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I hope they'll do regional prices, because with our inflation it's just impossible to buy ksp2 in Ukraine

zealous tulip
fickle fjord
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My first thought would be to wait until tuesday or wednesday

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Because they'll be in office monday and start working on stuff

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but yeah I do think that you should consider something like "does not T2 pricing on other games of comparable USD pricing"

fickle fjord
marble cairn
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It's current price is my food for 2 weeks

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Lol

zealous tulip
# marble cairn It's current price is my food for 2 weeks

i personally believe that this argument may not be the strongest one, and unless it applies to the majority of consumers in a specific region, it may not hold much weight. It seems like if someone is making a decision, they may not be making the wisest financial choice and could potentially be in a state of poverty.

marble cairn
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Even for Ukraine's capital city it's too much for a game, so i think it applies to the majority of costumers in Ukraine

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If i knew that i can't afford it's current price only because of my economical position, i wouldn't complain about it

jovial turtle
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yes, the full story is that some dude from Luhansk said it identified him as from ukraine and the price was about 5000 rubles for them which is around 80 bucks, i might have messed up the percent but my point still stands

marble cairn
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On deocupided territories of Ukraine ksp2 costs 1600 gryvnas, which is ~45 USD

jovial turtle
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whats youre source umactuallyPAIGE

marble cairn
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I live here, in Kiev

jovial turtle
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fair enough

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heres the full story

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idk whats the difference between your pricing and lpr pricing but taketwo done messed up, 45$ is still a lot for Ukraine

void vale
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Surely you just buy food, if its between KSP2 and food, you choose food

jovial turtle
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maybe the prices are different from store to store

tranquil robin
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Up

marble cairn
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And i didn't complain if ksp1 don't cost ~200 gryvnas which is ~5 dollars lol

forest hornet
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add bank commission here and get almost 5k rubles

marble cairn
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hi all

forest hornet
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hi

mortal prism
tranquil robin
marble cairn
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price change in mexico gives me hope

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anybody know the reason?

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im thinking of getting the ksp1 dlcs and just mod ksp1 and never buy ksp2

mortal grove
urban plover
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For Ukraine and Kazakhstan the price is +70% to the recommended price. It turns out 45 dollars. I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but the minimum Kazakhstani salary is $150, mine is about 500-550. I pay the bills for the apartment for the same $45.
The current price is just insane for ea.
And with that terrible state that I saw on the streams, and read in the Steam reviews, even the recommended one seems to me an overpriceRocketFlying

marble cairn
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if they refunded through the store they bought from

mortal grove
marble cairn
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also most of us here would just patiently wait for mulltiple years of slow development if they priced it reasonably

mortal grove
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that was my plan

marble cairn
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447$ min wage here and its barely enough to get by

mortal grove
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if the game costed reasonably and performed as bad as it is i wouldnt complain

marble cairn
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what is it

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i never really modded ksp1

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i did a ffew times but mods sucked i just decided to wait for next game for years

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will look into it ty

mortal grove
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i dont know if it even matters, this channel doesnt provide official support after all

urban plover
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I was going to buy the game on the first day. I could probably buy at the current price, as I waited a long time. But thanks to my bosses for sending me on a business trip for a week. I was able to look at real reviews on YouTube, cool down my expectations and the desire to buy, especially for SUCH a price, immediately disappeared.PanicKerbal

mortal grove
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i was able to get it on first day only because i live in germany now and its a bit easier to get this much money, because 1 euro = 36₴ after steam conversion

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if i was still in ukraine i would never ever buy ksp2

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like, dayz costs 999₴ and its still hella lot for a game

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i own it only because my friend gifted it to me

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otherwise idk if i got to play it

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they have discounts tho

marble cairn
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lol yea

mortal grove
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not ridiculously big price tho

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yep i got ksp1 for 44₴ and dlcs for like 400₴ combined

marble cairn
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157 TRY

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even cheaper with bundle

mortal grove
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and then suddenly ksp2 for 1600₴Kerbull

marble cairn
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i mean ksp is never as popular as CoD why not just grow your community with thoughtful steps

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i think it has to do with the publisher rather than developer but i dont know that

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i never looked up the politics behind ksp

mortal grove
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dont know if true tho

marble cairn
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i bought the new forest game

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they priced it quite reasonably

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just done downloading

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280 TRY

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they deserve the money i saved for ksp2 honestly

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i would pay up to 500 too tbh

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280 TRY is cheap imo

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hats off to them

marble cairn
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slightly cheaper early access

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i respect

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price increase when 1.0 out

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full respect

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ask for full price with unjust selective regional pricing for a sh** early access

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i go mad

urban plover
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My friend bought it yesterday but he requested a refund.DiedLaughing If we remove obscene expressions from his story, then on his i7 12700 and 3090 he not only caught critical bugs (I met almost all of them here in the technical section) and crashes, but the game also started to slow down at random moments up to 5-10 fps even on fullhd and medium settings.Konspiracey

marble cairn
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lol

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imagine 10x KSP2 = 1x 3090

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lol no you are wrong

mortal grove
marble cairn
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thats 4 full minimum wage salary for 32K

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given that you can not save any money on min wage here

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see the price charts on the right

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lol

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how unstable economy is

mortal grove
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oh my god

mortal grove
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maybe some gamer oligarchs lmao

marble cairn
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f*** private div im sticking with squad myself regardless

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ksp1 gang

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idc

mortal grove
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i want to try play ksp2 a bit more but i have only 30 minutes until 2 hours playedKerbull

marble cairn
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u bought with gift cards too right?

mortal grove
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yep

marble cairn
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cant refund to card

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well

mortal grove
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well i didnt have other options

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i dont have a payment card

marble cairn
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i understand

mortal grove
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btw i find funny that when i said that the game is unplayable rn in #🔷ksp2_general i was answered something like "you knew what you were paying 50$ for, play ksp 1.0 then"

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and then when i said that 5/5 launches my rocket disappeared for no reason i was ignored lmao

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and why would i even play ksp 1.0

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love this kind of guys

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still no info on patch/bug fix schedule smh

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why would they include it in this version?

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the game weighs only 11 gb tho

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i was expecting 40

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vall is jool's moon

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strange

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but there are ksp1 channels here

tranquil robin
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up

drowsy flare
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KSP1 with DLCs costs about 4k INR, KSP2 costs ~3k INR. The amount's quite a bit for the average person here, but I don't think KSP2 pricing is worser than KSP1s.

worldly night
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tbf swiss and israeli prices are ridiculous in most steam games

strange sundial
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question to you guys. on keyseller sites (official ones) i get like 12€ discount. does that work for turkey players?

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38€ instead of 49.99€ is... I like to compare it to sons of forest

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damn

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g2a and mmoga e.g. But didnt they say the wanna higher the price after EA? i mean. even higher? lul

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I mean. I can understand the pricing. but KSP never was a triple A game and it was always a lovely indie company, fair prices, nice community. I fear that this kills all vibes coming with it

fickle fjord
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May want to try discussion of certain sites, a lot of publishers don't like them

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Squad still exists, but they're not a game-dev (never were)

strange sundial
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I just dont buy games, or wait till they are below 20€. but damn. pirating will go strong with this one

fickle fjord
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It's a weekend

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Also: Friday ... was yesterday

strange sundial
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They are still a company. not any mod will give an official statement of a company. The whole team has to make a decision either lowering the prices, giving a statement or (which i doubt) ignoring the whole community

fickle fjord
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They were a marketing-company that also made a game

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They did, but that was a side-business

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Yes, so don't expect a reply today

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Not to mention that this may require discussing with T2, which requires corporate meetings

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I mean a lot of companies run on a 5 day week

mortal grove
fickle fjord
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Give it a few days at least

mortal grove
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yep just wait a few days

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mexico got a new price

silk matrix
mortal grove
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some other countries may get too

silk matrix
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We hope so

mortal grove
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like what is the point of lowering the price in mexico only

fickle fjord
silk matrix
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yuh

mortal grove
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because squad is a mexican company or what lol thats the only connection i can find

silk matrix
mortal grove
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i dont think thats the case too but i dont have any other ideas

fickle fjord
silk matrix
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imo thats a long time problem

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still to much to developabout the game

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ksp looks fine

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but

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not with the gameplay

fickle fjord
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Most of what people are complaining about are a few issues

silk matrix
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ill wait till the sale

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if there is no localized pricin

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but rn game looks like unfinished cacao cream

fickle fjord
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What I mean is that features obv bugs and perf will be fixed, this is an 0.1 release

silk matrix
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bcz matt lowne said most if the bugs (in his video) will be fixed until the ea release

mortal grove
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twr is also in the game

silk matrix
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“some of them”

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these bugs werent the hard to fix

mortal grove
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of course not all of them

daring summit
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i think i see why they didn't steam's suggested pricing

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their stock is 33% down

silk matrix
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lmao

daring summit
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p.s. take 2 is the owner of private division

silk matrix
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aiight boys lets blame the gamers for these stock prices
-taketwo or smh

fickle fjord
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That's on a 1y timeframe, it's not that bad on a 5y or YTD timeframe

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In fact YTD they're up 6%

daring summit
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yeah but it is still going down this year🤷‍♂️

daring summit
fickle fjord
mortal grove
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just noticed that someone reacted on this thread with a laughing emoji

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nice

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"haha imagine not living in america"

daring summit
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bruh

urban plover
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I just remembered. Trigon: Space Story came out last year (before the suggested prices were changed) and at the beginning there were also disgusting regional prices. But developers listened to the community and fixed and lowered the prices, but it took a week.

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So even if they hear us here and even agree, there will most likely be no price changes until the end of next week.

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In short, too many "if"

echo lodge
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and its 8/1 of the minimum wage. I dont think someone is gonna buy a game that expensive in there

forest hornet
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3500-3800

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it's like 2 or 3 shawarmas!

old carbon
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you wouldnt be able to play it anyway, broken

echo lodge
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i think marketing team is knows better that if price is lower, maybe 10 times more person is gonna buy it

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as i see, most of the people in turkey is fine to 500-400try because its an early access game

fickle fjord
echo lodge
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but the price is too high

fickle fjord
mortal grove
echo lodge
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but im pretty sure if its gonna be half of the price, sales will be more twice or little bit more than twice

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yeah, i know

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im saying people are fine if its 400-500try

fickle fjord
echo lodge
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but the game price is 50$ so thats the reason

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sons of the forest is 30$ and 280try so

fickle fjord
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So that'd be 466 TRY for KSP

echo lodge
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yeah

mortal grove
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do you guys know someone who bought the game for 1000 mexican pesos?

autumn timber
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KSP is worthy for that kinda price tag but not right now maybe on full release

hot wave
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+++

mortal grove
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i expected 900 uah for it

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sike

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tbf it would be a fair price for 1.0 not for early access

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600-700 uah for ea

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900 uah is 460 try

mortal grove
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well now i know 1 try is almost exactly 2 uah

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at least i wont need to convert prices every time to understand how much money you guys are talking about lol

forest hornet
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Slap community manager?

marble cairn
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💀

hot wave
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thats not an ad

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thats meme between russian people if i can say like this

forest hornet
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100 🆙

hot wave
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omg

forest hornet
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do you speak IT!?

hot wave
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💀

marble cairn
fast delta
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Aha

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Leave it

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If I see you write you are enjoying this server

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Website steam

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Epic games

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Twitter

marble cairn
forest hornet
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Hmmm

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who can give me big text to slap community managers?

fast delta
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Hello kid

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How is school?

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Did u do your homework?

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Its pretty late you need go to bed

tiny sunBOT
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Report Sent.
marble cairn
fast delta
hot wave
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💀

fast delta
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@past blaze if u warn me for anti social behaviour

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Then look at my messages before

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Its a kid and I would do that another time. He is trolling

wicked fossil
hot wave
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bro will be like 💀

hard kestrel
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I don't think anyone has a great position here.

coarse prawn
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The number of reports this one thread has generated is quite incredible.

marble cairn
jovial turtle
jovial turtle
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I don't think they are stepping down from their regional prices hill

coarse prawn
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Does something against the server rules, gets punished for it, blames it on something we have no power over. No matter the reason the rules are the rules.

jovial turtle
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idk

fast delta
jovial turtle
marble cairn
hot wave
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🇯🇺🇦🇳

jovial turtle
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i just checked, its still unavailable in russia

fast delta
marble cairn
fast delta
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Well dilemma

jovial turtle
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mods are promoting 1984 😡😡

fast delta
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Why are you reporting when you know you get punished lol

jovial turtle
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its the same person

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konspiracy

marble cairn
jovial turtle
marble cairn
echo lodge
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I dont think regional prices is gonna add soon. Maybe a couple weeks later

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if they even gonna add

hot wave
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:(

echo lodge
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because regional pricing needs a research of a country economic state

jovial turtle
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we start throwing violence on streets because of a digital item!! am genius 😡😡

marble cairn
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Wait until time bends reality into the right position so we can move on

jovial turtle
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we are almost on 3k messages and still no mod response

forest hornet
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Give me a quite pls

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for a like 30 seconds

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I'm tired of sitting back

echo lodge
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there not even any fix updates rn so as i said, its gonna be happen in a couple weeks if its even gonna happen

forest hornet
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@nocturne fern @buoyant acorn @gilded bobcat

I apologize in advance for a little bad English, it's not my native language.

Dear Community Managers since you're ignoring the biggest thread at #1074830191769178212, we decided to summon you here.

I am writing to express our concerns regarding the exorbitant regional pricing of the game Kerbal Space Program 2 (KSP 2) in many countries. The recommended price of KSP 2 is check screenshot, but it is available for an excessively high price in local currency, which is significantly higher than the recommended price. This is an unfair pricing strategy that puts country/region consumers at a disadvantage.

The regional pricing of KSP 2 in country/region is significantly higher than the recommended price, which is based on the purchasing power of consumers in developed regions like the United States and Europe. This high pricing strategy in country/region puts it out of reach for many consumers who may want to enjoy the game at its full potential.

Moreover, it is important to note that the pricing strategy of KSP 2 in country/region fails to take into account the economic conditions and the purchasing power of country/region consumers. The minimum wage in country/region is significantly lower(
For example
50$ =
Russia: 1/4 of minimal monthly wage.
Ukraine: 1/5;
Turkish: 1/8;
Iran: Guy wrote here 3/1, he just need to work 3 month to pay for the game.
and many other countries;)

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than that of developed countries, and charging such an exorbitant price for the game puts it beyond the reach of most consumers in the region.

The high pricing strategy of KSP 2 in country/region is a clear example of price gouging, where consumers are charged excessively high prices for a product or service, typically during times of high demand or scarcity. This is an unethical business practice that takes advantage of consumers and exploits their purchasing power.

I urge you to reconsider the regional pricing of KSP 2 in country/region and set a fair price that takes into account the economic conditions and the purchasing power of country/region consumers. This will not only be beneficial to country/region consumers, but it will also help to promote ethical business practices that treat all consumers fairly.

Also today we saw situation with price decrease at Mexico, which is quitly unfair to other countries

I understand perfectly well that you are not in charge of this, but I hope that our words will reach the top management.

I would also like to draw attention to the situation of blocking sales in Russia, I think that the gaming industry as a whole should not get into politics, but even so, the citizens of the country are not guilty of the acts of their goverment and as a player from .
And as a player from the frontline zone (LPR - Luhansk People's Republic), I am extremely upset by the inability to buy and, in general, even afford such a high price tag.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

KSP community

jovial turtle
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o wait i typed mod instead of dev

jovial turtle
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im not reading all that

jovial turtle
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honestly respectable action

jovial turtle
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bro is based

forest hornet
marble cairn
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dude

marble cairn
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banned for that text?

echo lodge
forest hornet
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klueless even if i get banned, at least i will know that the company is so unwilling to listen to their players

marble cairn
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They dont deserve a f*ing second plan honestly, hear us out or we out

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we got lives to live

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even if s**tty

echo lodge
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to show to the people

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if its gonna happen

marble cairn
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Hoping for gods(devs) mercy - the only thing we can do

jovial turtle
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if you ping a person the dude automatically gets added to the thread, it doesnt mean they are looking at this

echo lodge
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just sell it on recommended price

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as ksp1 did

jovial turtle
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fr tho is it that hard

echo lodge
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dude almost everyone has ksp1 now

jovial turtle
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also this

jovial turtle
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i got it but it got removed from my account presumably because taketwo got in charge of it and also blocked the sales to russia

forest hornet
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🫡

echo lodge
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at least marketing Kerbull Most of the people who bought games on Steam with steam suggested pricing started to buy with the thought that the price might increase

mortal grove
echo lodge
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🫡

marble cairn
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👍

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im a bit busy

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please someone do the journalists thing

jovial turtle
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everyone talking about logs but noone talking about planks kerbnoooooo

jovial turtle
marble cairn
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log it all share it if something happens etc

open vessel
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do you know instant-gaming ?

marble cairn
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if someone wants to

jovial turtle
forest hornet
mortal grove
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did any price change yet?

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except mexican ofc

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sad

jovial turtle
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they are being racist to non mexicans 😡😡

mortal grove
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we need some statement

echo lodge
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we need to force them more

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probably need more people

mortal grove
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im racist🏎️ to mexicans🌮

echo lodge
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because they can just ignore a couple people

forest hornet
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two biggest threads

mortal grove
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3k soon

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who will leave the 3000th message?

jovial turtle
hot wave
#

me

mortal grove
jovial turtle
#

joe bidome

hot wave
#

milestone reached

marble cairn
echo lodge
#

we need to push more

mortal grove
#

“cant send this because it contains content blocked by this community” lmao

marble cairn
mortal grove
forest hornet
marble cairn
#

ok

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ok

teal jacinth
forest hornet
#

to lazy to remember ukrainian

teal jacinth
#

Oh

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Sad

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Ok

mortal grove
#

ї

teal jacinth
#

Will try

marble cairn
mortal grove
# mortal grove ї

(it is just a random letter and not a word please dont break my ribs with a metal bar)

#

many people spammed it

forest hornet
#

someone was reacting to mod msg

forest hornet
mortal grove
#

no you can still react with clown emoji

teal jacinth
mortal grove
forest hornet
marble cairn
teal jacinth
forest hornet
mortal grove
#

gave up two 20€ gift cards and was still 32₴ short lmao

#

i was laughing so hard because of this

#

its like 1 dollar

teal jacinth
#

REAL TRAITOR

mortal grove
#

i bought the game and understood it is not worth it

teal jacinth
mortal grove
#

what info

forest hornet
#

anyway i would buy it if i can and still VERY DISAGREE WITH PRICE, but i can't even buy it

mortal grove
#

rn its unplayable without an rtx 69420

teal jacinth
#

I have GTX1650, thats why i willnt buy it NEVER

mortal grove
#

30 fps in VAB 🤟🤟

teal jacinth
mortal grove
#

its because of some calculation problems

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not graphics

#

my friend with 1660 said the difference between min and max graphics is like 3 fps

forest hornet
#

we just waiting to any answer

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at having a small talk

marble cairn
jovial turtle
#

im back

#

what did i miss

hot wave
echo lodge
jovial turtle
#

also its my birthday in 2 minutes

teal jacinth
jovial turtle
echo lodge
jovial turtle
jovial turtle
#

just one minute and im turning 14 JebYes

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i am officially born now guys

echo lodge
#

so i recorded the gameplay and with rx570 looks like i get 40fps at vab on medium

jovial turtle
#

atleast in my timezone

hot wave
teal jacinth
forest hornet
jovial turtle
hot wave
#

he cant

jovial turtle
#

actually feel bad for you

#

lets hope the conflict is over by then

forest hornet
teal jacinth
jovial turtle
echo lodge
jovial turtle
#

i live in UTC+4 not UTC+3

#

omg 🤯

teal jacinth
#

I really not understand?

#

I know just SASt and GMT

jovial turtle
forest hornet
#

exactly the opposite, Moscow is a separate state within Russia (a Russian joke that means that in Moscow everything is not like in any other city, the rhythm of life is too fast, etc.)

hot wave
jovial turtle
echo lodge
#

but only in the ground

teal jacinth
echo lodge
#

average 15fps on ground and 12-13fps on launch

teal jacinth
jovial turtle
echo lodge
hot wave
#

omg

marble cairn
#

back in business

zealous tulip
#

well

marble cairn
#

lol it`s open again

#

Nice!

hot wave
#

they understood their fault

marble cairn
#

thanks for fixing that last move mods

#

yeah we have to be cool

forest hornet
zealous tulip
#

also, let's be understanding of them too

forest hornet
#

Dakota is typing all QUITE

marble cairn
#

tho if they keep telling its because of "YoUr CoUntRy tAx BaD" i dont know for how long i can keep my cool

zealous tulip
#

i dont think we should yk have pitchforks or smth.

marble cairn
#

lets hear em out

nocturne fern
#

Reopening this one to keep discussion centralized to one thread. Be assured, we see your comments about this topic but for now we don't have any updates. When we do have one, we'll communicate here as soon as possible.

forest hornet
#

thanks for responding

marble cairn
#

and im sorry some of us acted out of line

marble cairn
#

and joked about not so cool stuff like 🅱️ iracy

echo lodge
mortal grove
teal jacinth
#

3145 commnts!

marble cairn
#

they wanna stick on the price 😭

#

i bet if you opened a purchase map

#

less than 3 people from my coutnry have game

forest hornet
marble cairn
nocturne fern
#

Please make sure to keep discussion about this topic civil and to not ping developers asking for updates. If you see anyone break the rules, please use the report feature to notify the mods. Appreciate y'all's patience and passion for the game 💚

marble cairn
#

and people are sharing data and useful media regarding the subject

#

thanks again for listening to us and taking the time to respond

echo lodge
#

yeah, hope you guys are gonna understand our problems and fix it asap

mortal grove
echo lodge
#

well, lets keep this thread alive with only this discuss until we got an update. We just have to wait now

urban plover
#

Thanks for the feedback. We are waiting and hoping. WoahKerbal
I think people here are quite serious. But, for me, it’s impossible to relate to what is happening with ksp2 without a drop of good old black humor.kerbdeadinside

marble cairn
#

if some of us made other posts when this one closed down please close them down so we keep it clean

hot wave
# hot wave

I think that was the final step to this answer

marble cairn
#

small step for us and a giant leap for people living in subpar conditions

hot wave
forest hornet
#

I wonder if can someone pin it there

#

#1078683192615243796 message

marble cairn
#

clean and to the point

hot wave
#

yep

forest hornet
marble cairn
#

If you follow a ksp2 content creator you can bring up the subject in their twitch chat or YT comments, but do not spam and make same multiple comments, also link such comments here so we can like and reply to them

#

to attract attention without annoying people

#

I personally dont follow such people but I will make sure to like and reply to your comments when you link them here

digital anchor
#

I jsut looked at the prices. Canada got the w for once

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but alot of those really do sucks

marble cairn
#

send pic?

#

of canada

#

price graph

digital anchor
#

its like 1.5 percent less then us XD

#

its not much of a w

#

normely its more

marble cairn
#

real mvp

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thank you dakota

marble cairn
#

i was thinking about that but didnt wanna bother you

#

A huge W

digital anchor
marble cairn
digital anchor
#

nothing changed

marble cairn
#

i dont know about canadas economy except for housing crisis

digital anchor
#

but since the start canadian not gettin screwed by pricing for once. but i can see how my friends ofer the pond are getting a bigger price

#

Im saying how normly canada is included in palces with high regional pricng

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It is odd

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also norway

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i wanna kknow how swis frank is so high

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Whats the GDP there

#

is it just insane

marble cairn
#

when im not here

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to do so

jovial turtle
#

I wonder if the blocked in russia thing will be adressed by the devs too

marble cairn
#

yeah that seems like a bigger thing honestly

digital anchor
#

based on us dollers here

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Uk has a lower gdp per captia but and a weeker doller but they pay mroe

forest hornet
digital anchor
#

What other factors would contribute to that making sense

marble cairn
#

lets just not stop adressing the issue when/if they drop prices also talk about russia

jovial turtle
marble cairn
#

its about innocent people who had no choice where to be born and cant vote for elections

mortal grove
#

votes are rigged

jovial turtle
#

Either way if im not here when the devs give us an update and nothing is said about russia could yall kindly ask for me

digital anchor
#

your gonna get this forum nuked by adding politics to it

marble cairn
mortal grove
#

oh ok

echo lodge
#

do not include politics

jovial turtle
echo lodge
#

we got their attention at least

mortal grove
marble cairn
jovial turtle
#

also yes shouldnt talk about politics

marble cairn
#

its something else

#

yes

forest hornet
marble cairn
jovial turtle
marble cairn
#

ye lets just get past that

#

that would be actually uncool to discuss it here

#

We can't loose this thread!

#

this is about more people being able to play ksp2

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and nothing else

mortal grove
#

yes i dont want to get into politics but i just want to say that getting access to russians is not that simple of a question too

hard kestrel
#

Friends, please do keep politics away from here. I appreciate it does affect this situation, but we don't want to be bringing it here.

We aren't locking the thread.

marble cairn
#

ty

forest hornet
#

🫡

jovial turtle
forest hornet
#

I'am gonna sleep

marble cairn
#

good night

jovial turtle
tranquil robin
#

up

marble cairn
#

v9000

#

see pinned messages

#

if you havent

#

they had closed this post due to "trolling" but they reopened

#

thanks again for that

tranquil robin
echo lodge
#

nice, they pinged the long sentence

marble cairn
#

imagine my dum dum a2$ accidentally closing the post

#

im scared to right click on it

tranquil robin
#

Its good to see we have attention of devs, wen publishers?

marble cairn
#

community managers of publisher are here

#

flight directors are publisher community managers

#

click on their profiles

tranquil robin
#

Nice

mortal grove
#

oranges are volunteers

#

they are just people who decided they wanted to keep this community civil

marble cairn
#

they seem professional

hard kestrel
#

We are volunteers in orange. Flight Directors are PD community managers.

jovial turtle
#

orange means you are D class and will be terminated at the end of the month

marble cairn
#

oh there are 2 orange

#

sorry lol

#

reddish orange is CM

#

orange is yes volunteer

#

real OG is inifnity he was here before all

jovial turtle
#

real og is the kraken he has been accepting reports since day 1 on this thread

marble cairn
#

lol kraken report notification was always funny

#

REPORT SENT

jovial turtle
#

everyone chatting and having fun

"Report Sent."

kerbdeadinside

marble cairn
#

:d

#

🔥

jovial turtle
#

🧯

somber agate
#

I don't check the thread for a few hours and now find a lot of admins and moderator messages. Jonassovich what happened?

jovial turtle
#

Basically the thread got killed by morbirators and then two more were created, after that we got an official response and the thread was reopened

somber agate
#

So no fix?

jovial turtle
#

lovla i thought you were sleeping

forest hornet
jovial turtle
jovial turtle
jovial turtle
somber agate
#

If this works out we would have accomplished something beautiful for the KSP community.

jovial turtle
#

We will be Making History™

forest hornet
#

Nah it's over but i can't fall asleep

jovial turtle
#

its cant fall asleep

forest hornet
#

Thx

jovial turtle
#

np

somber agate
# forest hornet Thx

Carried our ideas with great writing. And the courage with tagging the admins.

marble cairn
#

btw you guys can ping me if something happens

mortal grove
jovial turtle
#

Guys on a completely unrelated note why does PvZ OST - Ultimate Battle sound like something straight outta Death Note

somber agate
jovial turtle
#

Oh yes pvz soundtracks are very addictive

somber agate
#

So recap? We got raided by mods and admins, somehow survived? And got our message to higher-ups?

mortal grove
marble cairn
jovial turtle
marble cairn
#

and they pinned messages for us

#

they said "trolling" and "OP (me) was provided an explanation"

#

i was not provided a well structured explanation

#

"YoUr CouNtRy tAx BaD" was the explanation

mortal grove
jovial turtle
marble cairn
#

im just disregarding it for their sake honestly, such low effort answer

#

but now seemms all good

somber agate
marble cairn
#

lets be patient and wait for an explanation

#

and meanwhile mention this in ksp2 twitch stream chats in a civilized manner

#

also ksp2 content creator YT comments

#

and link the comments here so we can reply and like

#

and dont spam

jovial turtle
#

jona hows your tweet btw

marble cairn
#

i dont expect any activity on it honestly

jovial turtle
#

fair enough

marble cairn
#

also Community managers kindly informed us

#

so i think thats enough

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for now

mortal grove
#

im thinking of this message to this day #🔷ksp2_general message

jovial turtle
#

they also put announcement about regional prices too

#

iirc

jovial turtle
#

aged like milk

marble cairn
#

im sure we will be updated sooner than 1.0 release honestly

#

if not whats the point

mortal grove
marble cairn
#

"and meanwhile mention this in ksp2 twitch stream chats in a civilized manner
also ksp2 content creator YT comments
and link the comments here so we can reply and like
and dont spam" remind this to people throughout the day when im not around to do so

somber agate
marble cairn
#

i dont follow any content creators

#

so if you already do follow people

marble cairn
#

i hope that for all humanity lol

#

prob will never come true

mortal grove
#

btw are the turkey’s elections this year right?

marble cairn
#

still

#

yeah 2 months

#

excited

mortal grove
#

oh thats cool

somber agate
marble cairn
#

seems promising

somber agate
#

even more than ksp2

marble cairn
#

earthquake really showed how bad govt is

jovial turtle
#

guys we are playing winners because devs acknowledged our message but remember, the publishers can be real jerks sometimes

marble cairn
#

lets just not generelize and handle this matter in its own respect

#

healthiest approach imo

somber agate
mortal grove
jovial turtle
#

i still hope for the best

marble cairn
#

lets always try to be nice to the ones who consider our concerns and respond

marble cairn
#

i dont mind if we go mad due to low effort and copy paste responses

#

but today was nice

#

we got a nice response

kind sphinx
jovial turtle
marble cairn
#

only civil thing to do about the matter is this honestly:
"and meanwhile mention this in ksp2 twitch stream chats in a civilized manner
also ksp2 content creator YT comments
and link the comments here so we can reply and like
and dont spam"

#

if you have other civil ideas speak em out

somber agate
jovial turtle
kind sphinx
#

Looks like they responded to our messages. Now we need to refrain from speaking outside of "Regional Pricing" and wait until next update/response from the Team or PDs. Hopefully with good news

jovial turtle
#

truth hurts eh?

somber agate
#

Yo chill

kind sphinx
marble cairn
#

im sure off-topic is fine as long as its casual and civil

kind sphinx
marble cairn
#

guys lets just drop it for good

#

we are here for a completely different purpose

kind sphinx
#

If you want to speak about gov and politics you should go to some other server to speak. This server or this thread is not the place for it

mortal grove
marble cairn
#

of course we might talk about other stuff casually, just keep it cool

kind sphinx
#

I'm here from the start of this thread and know and see how much we talked about politics within our conversations.

marble cairn
#

well we are all living in tough conditions

#

most of us

#

if not all

mortal grove
marble cairn
#

politics hurt us all always

mortal grove
#

duh

marble cairn
#

but we should keep it civil even when we gooff topic

kind sphinx
marble cairn
mortal grove
marble cairn
#

also dont forget that there probably will be someone watching us 24/7

#

lets not give anyone a reason to shut us down righteously

kind sphinx
marble cairn
nocturne fern
#

Best to keep political discussion to DMs please.

marble cairn
#

so lets just not go that way

mortal grove
#

on god

marble cairn
#

dakota can you please assure us that this post will not be shut down because just a few decide to go off rules and punish them instead of the whole post?

kind sphinx
#

It's good to see some admins/community managers are following this thread.

nocturne fern
marble cairn
#

ok thank you

#

im still gonna be asking people kindly to keep their cool even if no one is watching

#

when need be

jovial turtle
#

or is it like dead on with that one

marble cairn
#

yeah we would also like that issue to be adressed too

#

as most of us would agree with gaming being seperate from politics

#

I personally think thats a tougher issue but I would personally like a response to that matter even if im not affected personally

#

and i think i can speak for majority here, regarding only the last few sentences i just wrote

jovial turtle
#

me when im 3 minutes late to the dev response party 😢

kind sphinx
marble cairn
#

i was here people,, messaged me like POST SHUTDOWN OMG111!!!111 lol

#

im glad to get a response for real

#

the right first step we all could ask for

#

nothing happens overnight so

#

im cool

#

for now

somber agate
kind sphinx
#

thanks to Lovla_MayaNyahSquad for writing and mentioning the PDs

jovial turtle
marble cairn
#

as far as I know EGS dont have the option to restrict regions

#

(yet)

jovial turtle
#

it does

marble cairn
#

oh ok then

kind sphinx
marble cairn
#

👍

somber agate
#

Write the first thing you will build when they fix the pricing. I'll go first: Jet fighter

marble cairn
#

lol good question

#

an SSTO

mortal grove
#

i already built it

#

😭

marble cairn
#

answer for "biggest project you think of attempting yet"

#

for people who already done some stuff in game

mortal grove
#

i built my dres rocket and lander but it couldnt get to orbit because it disappeared 5 times

jovial turtle
mortal grove
#

i really like new dres

kind sphinx
mortal grove
#

the bugs are crazy bruh

marble cairn
#

i commented on this video

#

same name

jovial turtle
#

nuh uh

marble cairn
#

if you want to go drop likes and replies

#

lol ye

#

this is the comment

jovial turtle
mortal grove
marble cairn
#

i dont wanna go and comment the same issue on every ksp2 channel

#

so im gonna stop with 3 comments for now

#

if people are interested they can come and see

mortal grove
#

just checked and “loading stuck” thread also got a bunch of dev replies

marble cairn
#

yea it should

#

seems like a big issue

mortal grove
#

yes i also went through it about 3 times

tacit pewter
#

in sweden it was 552kr (49.99 euros) which is sort of the normal price for a pretty big game but also with how badly and wierd ksp 2 is i would say it should be cheaper

mortal grove
#

still i agree with you

tacit pewter
#

like if you went to a gamestop when it was open in sweden most games would be 500 to 600 kr

mortal grove
#

they shouldnt charge this much for the game in this state

tacit pewter
#

like xbox and ps4 games

#

i think in this stage of ksp it should be cheaper because there are so many probloems with it and i know its in early access but still

jovial turtle
#

æ

mortal grove
#

still its not about regional pricing, but about the general price instead

mortal grove
jovial turtle
jovial turtle
#

But they have literally soiled their pants with the regional pricing

mortal grove
jovial turtle
#

you mean ß and ẞ?

mortal grove
#

yes

jovial turtle
#

ß is just lowercase ẞ tho is it not

#

atleast my keyboard gives me ß if s is lowercase and ẞ if uppercase

#

but i digress

mortal grove
#

i thought its the beta letter

#

ẞß

#

💀

jovial turtle
#

ẞ is from German though

#

or it isn't

#

idk

#

do they even use it in german

mortal grove
somber agate
#

Weiss = Weiß

mortal grove
#

but ß cant be upper case

#

so i guess its made for caps-lock

#

to look better when all letters are upper case

jovial turtle
#

oh yea that makes sense

mortal grove
jovial turtle
#

waltuh kerbnoooooo

mortal grove
#

r/suddenlywaltuh

#

btw lets stay on topic lol

jovial turtle
#

lets not forget that waltuh chose Heisenberg, german sciencist, as his alter ego

jovial turtle
fickle fjord
fickle fjord
marble cairn
#

hes back to keep us in check

mortal grove
marble cairn
#

hes just doing his thing

#

dont mind him

fickle fjord
mortal grove
#

that just was an addition from me that i agree with this person nonetheless

marble cairn
#

he dont care the context he just says opposite

#

lol

mortal grove
marble cairn
jovial turtle
fickle fjord
marble cairn
#

1 yes for a few hundred disagree

#

ok thank you

mortal grove
somber agate
#

ok guys chill

jovial turtle
marble cairn
#

we chill we chill

#

just funny

somber agate
marble cairn
#

im off to sleep gn all

mortal grove
jovial turtle
jovial turtle
fickle fjord
jovial turtle
mortal grove
#

/s …?

#

im pretty sure it is just need to know lol

forest hornet
#

Guys if you wanna have chat off topic try to go DMs pls

jovial turtle
#

im pretty sure the mods are fine with us just chatting here as long as everything civil

#

Lol i got warned for being disrespectful to other member because i asked not to use tone tags??? 💀

fickle fjord
prisma dagger
#

yeah, i paid 45£ which is 54$, the pricing is unfair

jovial turtle
#

fair

mortal grove
prisma dagger
#

full aaa is about 50£

forest hornet
prisma dagger
#

pokemon vio was £50

forest hornet
jovial turtle
#

or am i mixing something up

mortal grove
#

i got a warning for not keeping my language e rated

prisma dagger
#

no, 50$ is 41.81£

jovial turtle
prisma dagger
#

about £1 to $1.15

#

i think euros are close to 1:1

jovial turtle
#

Oh oh yeah thats the one i was thinking about

mortal grove
#

yep was 1.01 some time ago

#

idk how is it now

prisma dagger
#

better since the september crash

forest hornet
#

*for a 20+ years old

prisma dagger
#

im on about 1.2K pm

#

semi broke unistudent life

mortal grove
forest hornet
#

Man... in my country we have like minimum 150$-200$ per month

#

And for even local prices that's nothing

mortal grove
#

even if the situation is not as crazy as in poorer countries

prisma dagger
#

true but i dont think thats their point

mortal grove
#

idk if it is the regional price problem tho

forest hornet
mortal grove
#

my bad

forest hornet
#

There's main point of our thread

sacred spire
#

any update guys ?

mortal grove
coarse prawn
#

You're not going to get any update so soon, I'm sure that if/when there is an update it will be clearly announced.

jovial turtle
#

Considering it's weekends, we are gonna have to wait atleast one more day, also the message might take a while to get around in the higher ups, or get a clear answer to i should say, its gonna take like 2-3 days more, so i'd say at best we are gonna see some action around tuesday

marble cairn
#

Heres my cat

zealous tulip
#

post it in #◽pets. I don't think we should diverge from the current topic.

marble cairn
#

Lol theres a pet channel

#

Didnt even see

forest hornet
urban plover
#

I already wrote earlier. When in the same situation with another game, the publisher (not Private Division) changed the regional prices, it took a week

#

So let's sit quietly and wait for the results. Blankface

echo lodge
#

Good morning, any updates?

forest hornet
#

that's not so fast proccess

#

for now we can only wait

#

and somehow cover this case in the media

urban plover
#

You can raise a storm after the decisionPanicKerbal