#Regional pricing unfair
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but in wrong list 😐
i think Russia is not too far behind at like 115% or so
if they are able to buy it
Well the price is there, buying it is another thing
They aren't
is there are a spreadsheet or something?
that doesn't count if you cannot buy it
i honestly dont care about the games state at all but why not price accordingly tho
i just dont get it
Steamdb has a price sheet
SteamDB etc
@zealous tulip

cant believe I waited for years and refreshed the KSP2 store page until the release minute just to be greeted by a price I can not afford
scott a bit coping imo. pc might be 7 years old but gpu is 4 years old and not bad. 20fps average is acceptable? for who?
lol
I woke up this morning excited to play KSP 2 and now I'm disappointed so bad
same
after reading feedback threads (formerly feedback channel) looks like it's a complete mess
same
KSP doesn't require a lot of FPS to be playable, it's not a twitch-shooter, but that's a different discussion
Me...
we all have been
kinda looks like scott manley is paid to say stuff
Ive literally done the same
but i wouldnt know
only interesting positive thing i got going for me for months to look forward too and a main thing cheering me up since it was announced
I even can't but it
point taken
Someone saying things you disagree with doesn't mean they're paid to say it
He was invited to the pre-EA meeting or whatever the name is
"Frames per second"
yes you are right but "Acceptable 20 FPS" is just bizarre
"seconds per frame"
More like "Seconds per frame"
sdfgkjhsfgdkljhsfg
lol
you're late my man
Bro literally same. Ive been feeling pretty down lately and its like one of the #1 on the list of "why i shouldnt end my life yet"
Say thanks that's not fpm
I was writing the joke man
Frames per minute
need to be more quick
Hi Jonas' cat
That's Turkish for "hahahahahah"
Minutes per frame

mpf?
hpf 
"all the regional price tags and this aint cash money at all" can someone put this in their review lol
noooo god noooo
dpf 
do not cross the line, I swear
wpf 
a bit too expensive to do that bit lol
$ps
you can't even share a tenor gif
true 
$ per second
You cant even put a standalone nerd emoji
Yeah they block GIFs, in order to avoid spam
there is always a solution
Mopf 
lol timing
Send gif as file?
hey inifnity how you doin?
can you get us an official to respond?
i dont wanna ping you
Bro playing with fire
i know u see me
he is just here to delete messages
lmmao
ping him and watch the world burn 
who is that imposter?
On who?
He warns you?!
idk its funny
ping him for any% ban lol
welcome back
yall have no idea how it feels when your favorite game is ksp2 and you live in iran
hahahah ahahahah
He is back
current record 10s
for who?
We have an idea man
What problem is?
Price?
for joe
ye
inifnity i know u wanna shut us down
we are suffering from heavy sanctions
who's joe?
we aint goin no where
Man i even can't buy it
xx mama
I cant even buy it lol
It's blocked in Russia
i literally spent my monthly savings to buy it then realized its only 1/3 of the price

she's been dead for 3 years tho
if all of us post participants decide to spam is it still illegal?
how much is it in iran?
xxx mama 
my condolence
The Middle East Experience
a lot
spam what and where
Why the heck we got
at emoji?
in average salary %?
inifnity get us an official, and here
cuz leek op
leek
If you can give us example
inifnity just tell em how sad we are

infinity isnt watching us
Spam will only get people moderated
you can only hope
dude 1200 messages, most active place on the whole server
i more think he saw that we realized he existed and realized that we'd annoy him lol
or one of the most
so i use the turkish lira as my currency on steam and ksp is 950 lira and i had to pay almost the amount of money my dad makes on a monthly basis to get 1/3 of the money needed to buy it
ye same
only 6 regions have regional pricing
im just gonna do my thing until this thing is resolved
and im not gonna tel what my thing is
That's A LOT
Welcome to the TL CLUB
🏴☠️?
yeah well when your currency is worth dog doodoo then thats what happens
TL stands for the ligma
But at least you have button "buy"
also when your country is ruled by a ruthless dictator that is willing to kill everyone and is hated by the world
We don't have it either
The Ligma Liras
dude gonna have to take a morgage to buy ksp 2 💀
same as in, he used TRY as exchange and none of us got regional pricing
guys we have to make it official
I didn't know that Iranians used our currency in Steam
also im probably gonna get raided by the police and hanged tomorrow because of saying this
be careful out there
How are the protests going?
how about a Buddhist peace sign as our symbol 
they watch people online so close
people are basically giving up
cuz there isnt really much happening
jokes aside be careful, idk if its true but i heard like 15'000 protesters are sentenced to forever sleep

nah its like 600
That's a shame. I really hoped that Iranians could set things right.
stay safe king
still
aww
Guys it was good, but I'll go sleep
was??
this is going on
go sleep and comeback
forever sleep 
we lost a warrior

imma go take a shower and cry in the corner
na we aint lost nothing
taking a break is all
we aint going no where
stop with that was stuff
cuz i cant afford a game that ive been waiting for for almost 3 years
Now remember that i live at LPR and right now see this
and get ur rest
That's not sun
Uh oh
Jeez you stay safe too
All of us who have regional pricing problems also have regional safety problems too lol
all of u stay safe
be careful
idk its pretty safe in balakovo
where's balakovo?
saratovskaya oblast
ruski
I'm lucky on that part. Istanbul is safeish
like a few hundred km from moscow, down the volga river
So how does Iranian gamers buy or get games exactly?
buy gift codes off of website
then redeem them
and buy the game
I mean Wikipedia was banned for a long time in Turkey. I wouldn't be surprised if Iran banned it.
its not in Russia
tbh im very surprised you can even speak english
been learning it since 6 years old
its not that exotic
we literally have english classes in our school program
school space program 
most russians i meet either dont speak it or speak it in a very broken way
oof sounds complicated. the worst we have is that steam hates/doesn't care about us (switzerland). it took them also 4 years (i checked regularly) to realize that the link to steam giftcard locations for switzerland actually linked to the swedish page.
Also they sell their VR and stuff to EU countries and some other european countries but not switzerland. had to hire someone to go to germany and import it here to buy it. cost me 5 months of salary lol
I think we're getting very much on a tangent now
CSGO player confirmed
true
oh dude you bet they dont, english is introduced late into their lives so they get a worser grasp of it meanwhile for me it was like i was a native
i havent played csgo in a while actually
Valve basically splits Europe into EU and not EU on those things, but anyways this is off on a tangent
man imma go take a shower now yall stay safe
You too
This might have done by a Turkish employee. In Turkish, Switzerland is called "İsviçre" and Sweden called "İsveç"
but most not EU countries still get sold those products, like UK and norway, just not switzerland
also yeah this threat is very far from it's origin, imma head out
why are people calling this thread a threat 
yea turkish usually mistake the two but i think thats unlikely, might just be a programmers mistake
This is not a threat
who?
Joe
joe current running president of the USA
bc it's a threat to our wallets
He do be running fast
well you took a while to think up of something
I think it's either auto-correct or people having the word recalled orally in their head and then mistyping
and im not disappointed
my discord crashed because i typed out his surname
lmao
Russia Moment
joelympics 
this server doesnt allow his surname and when the message get automodded by discord it crashes the app for some reason so it's not a russia issue
anyway is Bidome a surname or a second name i forgot
bidongadonk
Donk??? Ksp2 referense???
where from 
I need link in my dms so i can avoid that website at all costs
I don't even know what's going on anymore
steve jobs
idk what a "dm" is or a "so" is or a "i "is or a "can" is or a "avoid" is or a "that" is or a "website" is or a "at" is or a "all" is or a "costs" is
i dont know what u say
no hablo ingles
El dm so i can avoid that website
bugbıuygıuweyrfasdrfg
(it spanish)
huh yeah i wasn't expecting this game to be 90nzd, 80nzd is usually the price localization for a 50 usd game
repair yourself
same
I will recap what I think and leave. Some countries have regional pricing some don't. Switzerland has higher price than everyone when converted to USD. Turkey usually has regional pricing with Argentina but in KSP 2 Turkey doesn't have a regional price even though countries similar to her has.
and russia isnt even allowed to buy ksp
I'm in Poland, the game costs 50 freedom bucks which according to the average exchange rate is ~220 PLN
950 liras is outrageous
Wow, so nice of you 
Has there been a recent change in the value of the zloty?
either over the exchange rate or very over the exchange rate
There is a recent change in the value of any currency, with the recession and everything lmao
Yeah I meant relative to the dollar
the voices tell me to spam it with hard r 
@marble cairn tag me if there is an update to the prices please. Ima head out
Here is a tweet I made to a KSP2 youtuber
https://twitter.com/JonasSovich/status/1629174246449504257?s=20
we all should just go and make our voice heard
talking here is just chilling with homies
Recently it was relatively stable, between 4.30-4.50 per dollar
I'd be very surprised if there was a significant change in pricing soon, it'd be a mess to deal with
Its already a mess
yore not my hmomie am gon kimdnpa youre 👿 👿
I don't really mind, since I believe in the developers and their roadmap goals, I'm investing early and knowingly testing the game

Perhaps so, but what do they do with people who already bought the game
Why is everybody complaining the price was out for so long
Considering it is a one-time investment for the entire roadmap, I'm personally fine with it
most of us mind for various reasons
1- There is regional pricing but its selective and not cool because of that
2- Most of us already saved the money according to the valve price recommendation but they just cranked it all the way up
its about the regional prices
We are complaining about regional pricing literally not existing not the base 50$
there is selective regional pricing and i think thats worse
some countries still have it cheap
just 6 of them
What do you mean isn’t it $50 every where?
look at the price gap

It is or even more and thats the problem
there is something called regional pricing as to maximize copies sold hence profit
they just messed it up
I was sitting with my credit card in my hand refreshing the page to buy it the minute it releases after waiting for years
It's like 4 people in Turkey
K
Can someone tell me some adequate reason why it`s not selling in russia?
i had saved just enough money to buy it at recommended price, which meant i had eaten less and worse food
and thats the case for most of us
who dont have it as good
Take-Two is sanctioning Russia and Belarus, and have been for about a year
The reason is:
Ummm uhhh the uhhhh um yeah um war idk um yeah uhhh the uhhh
- taketwo management
Parent company blocks Russia and Belarus because PR
Well. Ok
I think the reason is clear when you consider the timeline
The reason is PR
Punishing people for authoritarian governments actions
"Regular civilians should be affected by sanctions because its their fault they havent overthrown the government despite the fact that attempts are futile!!" - random nerd to a 14 year old who just wants to play ksp2
That is so dumb, that i can`t even make an image in my mind.
anyway 
i am back
Hi back
there is loud siren so no sleep today
Dude woke up to gunfights and opened discord to KSP talk
Damn poor you
Muscle reflex
I mean, if talking about regional pricing helps them get their mind off things ...
Dude has his priorities straight.
Yeah, though it has gone off track at times
Like now
after a couple of years you get used to it, woke up because. the siren is on my roof, obviously you can’t sleep with it, and it’s quite comfortable to lie down under the cannonade of artillery
How to open cheats pannel
alt+f12?
Nope
Also that's probably more fit for a different chat
maybe no cheats?
What do you maean
almost 1.5k
read the topic theme...
Where
This is a page to discuss Unfair Regional Pricing
Yeah
Most of us don't even have the game
Hm

Yooo
@KerbalSpaceP Could you please adress our concerns about regional pricing of KSP2? Screenshot is from a post in Intercept Games Discord server, "ksp2_help" post thread. There are many of us who had saved the recommended valve sale price but you have been selective with your regional pricing.
give some interaction to this please
Pls help
can't twitter is blocked
its nothing about tax
😂
what this is
That's bull.... Turkish tax is 18% included

we don't have taxes
who
no price
who sent
no taxes
damn they don't care us
this seems like an automated reply, I imagine they may properly address the issue in the weekday
Better anyway
I mean you may want to point out that it's higher (sometimes significantly so) compared to the Steam suggested pricing
can you add image of prices?
A bit speculative
to the answer
i had added in the first request
how so
Do we have a date for the exit of the colonies?
It's a bot so no one will even read it
Speculating how it'll affect sales
i dont care i'll force the door even if it wont open
Also "please don't play dumb with us" is perhaps a bit rude
Based
No
Okay thx
oh mate... if i start swearing... i'll swear on russia...
im sending it the way it is
Is impossible to say
The support-person didn't set the pricing
There is probably no support person
support person just passes the message they dont take it personally
shouting into a support phone call is something else
and this is another thing
People working support are still people
They will come to their senses when they see the sales generated from Turkey
waiting answer for question "WHY GAME IS BLOCKED IN RUSSIA?! WHAT THE HECK WITH PRICE" not direct quote but close
man its not that rude honestly
its rude of them to play dumb with us
"oh It M uSt Be YoUr CouNtRy TaX"
isnt that rude????
They're not playing dumb, they're giving a standard answer
when you actually see that price is just 50$ converted to other currencies
i added a sentence to soften it so I am still cash money of a person
lol
sent it like this
That's not stopping being rude, that's just admitting it
Reminder that the decision of the prices is far removed from any support agent you might be able to contact. That they cannot just go "sure will change it" is by no means a justification to be rude to them
its not all flowers
how is it rude??
it is no way close to being rude honestly
its just you and sundhaug honestly
i even can't buy it, not afford BUY MAN
it's blocked...
also you guys (publishers) block people from russia who are not soldiers or not in support of government
I dont think I am being rude at all honestly
I am not an employee of the company btw, I just moderate here
Saying "don't play dumb" is not the best way to go about it
C'mon you got to know someone
Cloyd didn't set pricing, he didn't set the rules, he's just trying to do support
and its not the best way for them to go about it by playing dumb
y'all being too soft imo
sorry for upsetting you
apologies
For one, it's Friday, and it has only been a few hours
im not gonna let a corp play me dumb by being "nice"
Probably since this issue has been addressed in the past
*it's release day so... no matter if it friday or not
We would really appreciate it if you could raise this with someone
Yes it's release day, and this is an issue that if solved will require a number of emails and meetings
Talking about "in the past" as in before ksp2 discord help section appeared on another source
Those are generally easier issues to solve (and don't involve the publisher)
You guessed correctly
I am not able to do that. You are free to contact support for your inquiries about pricing, I just want y'all to understand that they are not able to magically solve your problems
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The 50 bucks for EA Release have been announced way back in the past.
And regional pricing is just normal business
im cool with it but i just wanna be sure, you just wanted to write something because i pointed out the support reply we got was playing dumb with us
inifnity
Being rude to a support-person for the pricing is a bit like being rude to a cashier
I did contact the support and they gave me the same copy-paste answer which is false
i am just want to unlock it at steam
Thanks for replying tho
yeah they surely
Yeah I'm guessing they don't have a flag in their system checking if it's out in your region or not
smh
who goes to the private division to tell them they are being rude?
i have course tomorrow but i'll keep this going
true dat
im just playin knight online rn. i need to make money for the game
LMAO
only turks will get this
it means mmorpg grind for cash
in a gae called knight online
30 fps in vab, 10 fps at launch
i'm at 120 fps (locked) on VAB
found this funny
same
5700xt runs without stutters at low fps
afaik
60 fps at launchsite
Bro, in poland it's more expensive than in USA or Norway. And why?
official "answer" from support
taxes mate

lmao
Bro I hate 50% tax. And 32% tax on buying things. I hate poland's gonverment
But still. G2A exist

I am want to buy it, BUT I CAN'T
I'm really sorry for you
loading time is so cool tho
Or i can buy it from resale but for like 70-80$
A total of 8 reviews are from Turkey and there is nearly 2000 reviews
Which is... idk how to say that in english... Mark? Of this review?
What is*
Every single one of them is negative
thats very sad
who the hell did these prices
47% positive reviews is pretty suboptimal
if the game was maybe 45 dolars and well regionally priced
Most people warned them not to release to early but I guess they needed the money.
They also need feedback
It's easier to get feedback early and get things right than to get it wrong and try to fix it
i dont think they need feedback when literally every time you play it there are tons of bugs and one-digit fps
they have own playtesters
A limited number of them, who can experience a limited number of bugs and give a limited number of feedback-items
i experience bugs every launch, what was the problem with fixing it if it occurs all the time?
many more playtesters with regional pricing 
I have to admit I haven't had any major bugs yet, but it's easier to diagnose bugs with more data
I'm aware of the need for feedback. But that doesn't excuse them from doing basic optimization.
early access culture is a headache
Optimization is rarely the first thing you do on a project, this is still an 0.1 version
wait for patch tho
sundhaug seems like a publisher side account honestly
i didnt refund yet, still have hopes on devs
I usually love early access and played through a lot of them but this one is not going well.
and its only 6.5 hours 
yea it can be mostly cool but one bad early access game that you wait for just takes away all the plus
tho i wouldnt care about it for KSP2
IF THEY JUST PRICED REASONABLY
I'm not
If you are going to release a product you should at least make sure more than 3 percent of your target audiance can run the game.
for an EA its shouldn't be more than 25ish USD
The listed specs are:
- 1440p high (recommended)
- For an early release of the game
and that 3% is whole steam users btw
only 3% of all steam can run this game
according to steam survey results*
minimum specs are for 1080p low
tbh a 3080 should be able to 144hz no issues in 1440p
i can wait for another 5 years of slow development if they just fix their nonsense pricing
personal opinion
Although being early access excuses some performance issues this is a bit much don't you think?
he seems to side with them no matter what
i cant wrap my head around
From what I've seen so far it seems to have quite weird performance-scaling
fair but like i already paid 1600₴ for it, even if they change prices it wont return my money
They might be forced to if your country has any regulations about such a thing
i have no idea if there are any sadly
and you are right
I mean, would you prefer it if it had the current pricing, no early access, and was a pre-order?
if it was a fully released optimized game with all the features from the roadmap, maybe
If I saw the 950 lira price tag at least I wouldn't get my hopes up.
but to be honest i wouldnt ever pay more than 800₴ for a game, i just had an opportunity because of high euro-UAH conversion rates
2 years ago I would have said "I wouldn't give any single game over 250 lira"
Yet the government be governmenting
So a pre-order where you get to play an early version of the game months early?
thats why they didnt share regional price before launch i guess
Yeah that should've been listed on Steam etc
I was looking at the page and confused why there wasn't any indication of price
Were there a price listed in other countries?
Before launch
The game costed me 107000 COP
i even did ask one of the devs personally for a list of regional prices few days before launch
Which is 20 USD
all they said was "regional prices will be available on release"
only in the us - 50$
bruh
There is regional pricing just not for us I guess
"us" being Turkey?
thats just insane that countries like poland and turkey have bigger prices than saudi arabia, qatar and norway
"us" being everyone except argentina
Yes but a few other countries too
almost every other*
From what I saw on steamdb there were several countries with regional pricing, but yeah some of that was absurd
Like 17 countries got a significant price decrease
dont mind the circle
the right column is regional prices recommended by steam
Yep, that's how regional priced work on south america
+%124
+73%
thats just totally nuts
Turkey too but I guess take2 decided otherwise
and its not really cheap
its cheaper for you not for us
ukraine too but take2 decided otherwise
Yea.
looks at the relative pricing for SA
they got wrecked too
Those were set a long time ago though
no its current
ksp1 got a price bump in Turkey a few months back
I see
they were but regional prices are that way for most of games
They were not (not in Turkey atleast)
I mean this isn't fair to Squad either
We were buying it like %92 off
but you cant really sell a space sim to a Turkish person for more than 60 liras
fair but if we dont count discounts all games in my country are between 5 and 10 dollars
*an old one
like i was completely flabbergasted when i saw forspoken prices
its 1.5 bigger than ksp2 lol
It was like that here too but you know...
Our currency sank so much that Valve had to update it several times.
Valve recommendation
i just searched the lira price chart and damn
thats crazy
If we get a good government next election and we start fixing our economy in a few years maybe game will be fixed too.
i think they didnt really update it several times tho, it was stuck at 1$=2TRY for a while
then they pulled it up to 1$=10TRY lately
i may be wrong
yeah 2.40 to 11
steam kinda made sure gaming in Turkey didnt fall back to extreme pirate times
I remember before Steam everyone sharing their game disks and usbs full of games.
bro canadas price is so much
Before Steam as in before it got popular in Turkey
yeah pretty much everyone's is
Isn't it like 19% below US?
more like 1.5%
should be way lower
I don't know the usual pricing in Canada but isn't it just 50 USD?
the pricing is right, its just so damn expensive
what does valve recommend?
dont know, just complaining
regional pricing is broken tho
we out here on the verge of starving trying to enjoy things
yea old niche games I get it
or capitalist games with huge audiences
Some recommended pricing for 49.99 USD
like for real i bought two 20-euro gift cards to buy ksp2 today and still was 1 euro short
i bought it when it was 870 TRY for Vault Edition
and beta sucked and i refunded lol
a friend of mine bought it and we bullied him so hard
lol
not ksp mw2
not right but i get it
he gave the vault edition 1500 and we just destroyed him
guys lets keep the chat about ksp2 only not other games so they dont decide to close this post or something
cuz they just might
they are probably looking for a reason
👆
Yeah there was a major change in pricing when the recommended pricing
If they wanted to, they would have already
to a eu citizen this graph is actually pretty good
$ is not different at all
Which is the direction you want to show to show change in recommended pricing adjusted for inflation
like thats not the issue
Compared to what it will be when it hits 1.0
im not buyin this game except for a big discount which will probably never come
i already bought and i regret it tbh
Then refund it
really? my country has ksp sales very often
obviously because they decided to release it too early
dont get me wrong dude im asking nicely and not rudely, are you here just to contradict people?
Lira?
this post is obviously for people who think something is wrong with regional pricing
why chat here when you have no problem with any of this?
ksp1 costs 59 lira wym
ksp 1 base game has never went above 59
59 TRY currently yes
No, I'm pointing out that if someone is dissatisfied with the game as it is currently they can refund it. Refunding it would be a pretty clear signal.
and it goes for sale almost every month for 14.75 TL
yea we all know it but obviously we have more to it to talk about
i heard this sentence out loud
lol
Obv, and you can't exactly ask for a refund for something you haven't bought
i just dont see the point in refunding until seeing the first few patches + i wont get my money back and they will stuck in my steam acc since i got them from gift cards
yea and I have not
sundhaug smh dude just please leave if all you want to do is contradict anyone regardless
i just dont need 1600₴ on my steam account
I think OP made it clear he didnt buy the game
That's an understandable choice
its like 8 middle-priced games
ik, I was replying to someone who had
ok then
you tagged the OP??
he misclicked prob its ok
i think we will get patches sooner
but a few people here only try to say otherwise
regardless what we say
we all know the names no need to point it out
they said patches will come in weeks not months
but i think they will start patching it and go full crunch after the reviews
we can only hope so
smh
I replied to CR, then Jonas replied to me and I replied to him
That's a separate debate
true true
i played only 89 minutes and like half of it i was trying to figure out why my rockets just disintegrate mid-flight and watching loading screens
honestly only good addition is rn for me is procedural wings
i love them
i also love the sound design, they nailed it
my sadness refreshes everytime i remember i waited for a long time just like most people here, then saved money in advance thinking they will sell on regional pricing, refreshing the store page to the games release minute just to see a big unreasonable price tag
also planet and moon revamps
Yeah man same boat
There's things to like, things to dislike, but this thread is about regional pricing
Yeah that should've been disclosed ahead of time
Atleast we would have prep time to complain 
thanks for sharing an opinion of different standing
btw amount of positive reviews changed from 47% to 48%
It's gonna go up and down as time goes by
im studying for my second university admission exam and my course is expensive too we are low on economy as a family
especially lately
this is a Turkey thing tho
i dropped out of my 1st university in the last semester cuz i couldnt afford it
Sorry to hear that
for my 2nd one we are moving as a family
sorry man thats worse than "mezun tayfa"
its ok
everybody gets their several chances in their lives
its about taking the opportunities
:(
yea thanks all
hope it will all be better for us even if its already stable/good
WELL PERSONALLY IT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER IF KSP2 WAS SOLD ON REGIONAL PRICING
xdddddddddddd
im not letting it go
and a small OJ for my son
orange juice*
didnt realize that much people use linux
imagine our problem making more noise than whole OS
we gotta hack into some linux and switch them to windows so our post activity stays 1st
lmao
imagine trying to support linux but not regional pricing


they're allowed to bring up different issues
yes of course im just being silly
I mean a lot of that's gonna be debugging etc
regional pricing will get more sales than linux 
now this is the absolute truth tho
lol
linux users will give much more profit than some third world people /s
hahahahahaah
Linux requires less convincing the publisher than a changing pricing
linux development time???
+1
i hope linux will get good support man jokes aside
just jokin about the linux stuff
I mean what do u expect, its russia
Cloyd be copypasting
And what?
hey at least they didnt copy paste the wrong message saying its cuz your country's tax LMAO
russian situation sucks too man
not punished for his governments action???
Don't see any logic
gov censoring and stuff like that, just makes it harder for publishers to get stuff published
I mean, a lot of the answers are gonna be the same - "Why isn't it available in Russia/Belarus" doesn't depend on who asks
Whaaat?
i think its the sanctions but i dont know that for sure
i dont think its the case, its just not really profitable
Take2 doesn't do business with Russia and Belarus
most russians would pirate ksp2 instead of paying this "regional price"
anything is bigger than 0 now man cmon
not saying they did, im saying its so much harder to get stuff published in places such as Russia and China due to sanctions/gov and stuff like that
It's not goverment censor, it's block froma Take 2, they just decide to not sell anything at country
Steam does that for you???
we dont wanna pirate anything we want to truly be a part of something support it have it legally
Its not about the sanctions
honestly we have been talking here non stop for so many hours now
its not the case for some parts of the world
Arguably it's T2 sanctioning those two countries
well yeah majority dont care
China - maybe
Russia - no, censorship is like nothing maybe only LGBTQ themes
But meh
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but anyways, that's an issue that:
- Is separate from regional pricing
- Probably can't be discussed that much without breaking rules against politics etc
It's about the punishment of peoples Russia and Belarus for their governments actions for western PR purposes
when I was making this post i just wanted to vent honestly
didnt think it would come to this
everything else goes under "and stuff like that" category, it might not purely be because of gov censoring things but it is in large part to the government being more strict about what gets published in the country
Has been for hours
Lol dude for all history we maybe get 10? Games forbidden by censorship
again, never said its only because of censorship
Making a mod-channel is easy, and probably a decision they made days ago
For Russian government games isn't a thing kek, they don't care about them at 99.9% percent of time
i think its funny that the game isnt available in russia and still the price in ukraine is like 1/5 of minimum wage
yeah thats very ironic
?
IT WAS A MISS INPUT
Anyway i either can't buy old games from T2
i would honestly get it if game was especially cheap in UKR
and it would be cool
imo
At Russia it's like 1/3
like yeah our currency just went nuts after the beginning of the war and many people lost their jobs
At LPR it like 1/1 from minimum wage...
there are different sorting choices so dont mind that
and still its 1600₴
u in UKR?
pretty fair
i was
thanks
what?
i studied 2.5 years on the east side of turkey, seen lots of violent terrorism acts, never a full blown war tho
must be hard
I thought he asked the guy from LPR
LPR
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bro got taken by secret police 
lmao
oh didnt see you edited your message
bruh i am so sorry you have to live there💀
eage -> wage
Nah i don't care after 8 years
i thought you typed russia and 1/3
guys im off to bed, I have course tomorrow i'll be here when i can cya all
ah yes the European Association of Geoscientists and Engineers
eage
have a good timewarp
That was higher
still must suck
didnt think steam games are even available there because of currency problems
1h ago - BOOM.
It's still burning but i don't see
Bro playing Warzone IRL
Jokes aside be safe.
We can buy it, but our currency is RUB, steam thinking it's UAH, and yes we don't have ANY Banks
yeah keep yourself safe
i thought there was one central bank for the whole "republic"
It's inner bank...
dont know if it functions though
And... I even can't pay taxes with it
💀
It's very bad bank wich needed only for paying to gov.
No possibility to pay at bank
Istanbul-Luhansk
i dont think there are any planes to lpr lol
how much for plane ticket
maybe through russia though
SU-25 every day 2999$ flight with hypersonic speed!
btw did something change after lpr was integrated into russia?
We get taxed dry and barely get anything in return so
Became more calm
Let us try to avoid politics, since there's IIRC rules against that
And less fire
good idea
That's life
no problem i was just very curious
like i was a child when all this situation with ldpr happened so i didnt understand anything
I understand
I'm leaving for the night I hope they fix all pricing by tomorrow. (It will not happen but let a man dream!)
good night
Yeah changing that so soon, particularly on a saturday, seems unlikely. gn
Good night, and take glance to my cats!
Perhaps we should petition the moderators for a #pets channel?
Idk
i think that was the point
or maybe it wasnt a joke at all
No I hadn't noticed
lol
It's in the lounge, which is a category I had hidden from my listing
oh i see
I understand people are concerned about the price but if it's hard for you to pay the game i doubt your computer will run it well for now, i'm sure price will go down in a ~6 months because it will not sell anymore as almost all the people interested in the game would already have it. And their only option will be to give discounts for the game if they want to still get income from it. And the game will surely run better on low computers. I will suggest you to wait to buy it if you struggle to get the money for it. You can still play to KSP 1 and enjoy more than KSP 2 for now.
i dont think you are following the concept of regional price
Also inn 6 month the game is going to be closer to completion
I do but if they give discount it will get cheaper and easier to buy anyway no ?
discount is not equal to get cheaper
Unfortunately I doubt it
get cheaper = permanent decrease of prices, not temporary
That's the trend with software - that in 6 month it gets more finished
ksp2 already is filthy expensive, with a discount it will be just expensive
More finished maybe but not fully finish and they will have no reason to grow the price
they officially stated they will rise the price after 1.0 release

Which is understandable, but also could mean it won't rise until then (though it might go up a bit close to launch)
You know how long it took to get ksp to 1.0 ? 😂
yeah it means exactly that
no, what about you?
are you a developer?
4 years
Initial KSP release was June 24th, 2011, v 0.7.3
they test multiplayer for 3 years already and adapt EVERY feature for it (and it is the last point of the roadmap btw)
i think most of the features are partly complete already, just the base game is not yet ready for them
Version 1.0 was the first full release of Kerbal Space Program. It was nicknamed We Have Liftoff! and released on 27 April 2015
Yeah I was going through the version-history and got distracted
and even if im wrong the base game is not ready for new features for sure with it's performance and bugs
Yeah, and limiting the scope limits what we find issues in
I can guaranty you it will not be in 6 month it will be 2+ years at least and i'm still kind
who said it will be 6 months?
I think someone mentioned 6 month as a "it might be on sale by then"
@steady ermine if you are referring to that message, "closer to completion" doesnt mean "complete"
I said it will get a discound it ~6 month and you told me the price would raise on 1.0
Ah yeah it seems we spoke past eachother
It being close to release by then would require them to avg 1 milestone per month
i would switch the verbs. it would get a discount in 6 months and the price will raise on 1.0
And and i told you being closer to completion in 6 months is nothing for this kind of game so they will not raise the price by this moment and their only way to keep an income to attract new players will be to reduce the price and give discounts
I mean; new features, bug-fixes, and possibly a sale or two, will sell it
Well you will see and you will think of me
i dont think i will
it's my view of it, almost all people who wants the game will get it in ~1 month since early access release.
If almost all the people already have the game, it will not sell anymore. But they will want to still get an income from it. How to get
an income from this game ? Attract players who had not been able to pay 50€ for it by giving discounts. It's just my opinion
Looks like it changed a few h ago
ok time to buy it again lmao
I got my hopes up but alas no change in TRY
Yeah I looked at a few prices and saw no changes. It was 1000 MEX which kinda sounds like some placeholder
Mexican Pesos is nearly equal to Turkish Lira so I guess they can fix the price. I hope they get to us too (and all the other currencies).
Like 1 Mexican Pesos is 1,03 Turkish Liras
this is a reply of my mail about pricing...
it is far more likely to get discount...
well i am not going to pay full price idk
That's the same others have gotten
Why is regional pricing needed?
Shouldn't the devs get the same amount per game sold regardless of where the sale happened?
I'm not explaining this again if you are really curious read our debate.
bruh prices are tax included, iirc other games with same base $ prices are cheaper than ksp2 in some countries
