Sanctuary Materiel Container

[maiden bay]

Please post screenshots of what items you receive from the Sanctuary Materiel Container so we can compile a full list.

[maiden bay]

Sanctuary Materiel Container

[warm rivet]

Just to make sure: those were two different ones?

[weary flint]

yeah

[fair oasis]

https://twitter.com/sefi_FFXIV/status/1709843500601381137

Today's 4 Breakdown:

• Jet Black (Dye) []
• Coconut Juice
• Mobile Garden Step (New?)
• Isle Leaves Headdress (New?)

[snow sky]

https://x.com/sefi_ffxiv/status/1709846922079732214?s=46&t=iny6CvWvInV1jQCutW6cNA

豚乃せふぃ❖ ぶた系Vtuber (@sefi_FFXIV)

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Twitter · Oct 5, 2023, 8:24 AM

this same person posted that the mount is from them i think!

oh maybe i should spoiler it whoops

[maiden bay]

probably doesnt need spoiler, but not sure I would count their statement as gospel

[snow sky]

i’m not sure what that means but i unspoilered it xD

[maiden bay]

their statement said "it appears that it will come out of the container", that's not exactly the same as "i got it from the container"

[south horizon]

More map-only crafting materials

[olive pumice]

Someone did their 7

[warm rivet]

That bed seems to be exclusive to them?

[olive pumice]

It's a new furnishing so probably

If no one's found it via treasure maps that is?

[warm rivet]

It is neither for cowries nor crafted at least

[olive pumice]

No sources on garland so it's rng loot

[heavy oar]

Ran a lot of maps day of patch and never saw one though of course can’t confirm.

[olive pumice]

Likely just this then

[ebon kernel]

it might also come from new submarine stuff, still mapping all those zones

[solar kestrel]

is it marketboardable?

[feral elm]

It isn't marked as untradable so it should be until bound

[median crest]

it is

[manic flower]

anyone seen a mount drop out of the container yet?

[steel hedge]

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Sanctuary_Materiel_Container

updated list of all drops we have seen so far

[steel hedge]

^ see above, unique mount from the chest

[pine wyvern]

Just to confirm, this is pretty standard phrasing in Japanese even for something that you're very certain about. It's kinda like saying "looks like (x)" In English.

[south horizon]

That makes a lot of sense

Thank you for the clarification!

[stark stream]

Road Sparrow

[obsidian shoal]

i just wish i understood why they put so many stormblood things in here...

[upper fjord]

i think stormblood just has a lot of aquatic themed minions (which suit the island), on account of [gestures towards the ruby sea]

[lucid stag]

https://i.gyazo.com/7c39cf7bcc1a1739d984711cf667d13a.png

[stark stream]

So both mounts are in the lootboxes, nice

[steel hedge]

Now is the question, 200 voucher, or 200 box tries

[stark stream]

I definitely don't have the discipline to get vouchers lol

the exclusive glams and high price dyes are nice as well ig

[steel hedge]

With it being inside the gamba boxes is the price destined to fall rapidly on MB

so you can prolly buy the voucher/mount very soon (2-3months from now) for low amounts

[stark stream]

most likely yeah

I'll stick to buying vouchers and reselling them for millions for now

[abstract cradle]

Unless I'm wrong, Perifool is ONLY in the boxes, right? Might as well keep cracking them open then so you can get a chance at that with the Adenium

[obsidian shoal]

on the other hand, vouchers could potentially sell for big bucks if you only care about gil and dont trust drop rates

but it's they're both on there...

[steel hedge]

I think the voucher will drop in price heavily
Both are in the boxes, so market will get flooded with both mounts over time

Decreasing the value for voucher buy

[obsidian shoal]

yeah my thought is if you want to sell any vouchers, to do it now/this cycle

[stoic pulsar]

hopefully that headdress sells lol

[stoic star]

Just bought a Perifool off the MB for 10 mil. happy days 🙂

[stoic star]

I just did a look see on the JP marketboards and there are roughly 10 Perifool for sale and no Adenium. Indicating Adenium might be super rare.

[arctic smelt]

at first glance, peerifool doesn't seem all that rare

[obsidian shoal]

has anyone been breaking down the stats so far. like logging the actual containers opened and drops to see if we can start mathing out a sense of droprate

[south horizon]

We’re a couple order of magnitudes away from being able to do that with any value.

We’ve got a ton of selection bias here. It’s a very small sample size and people are more likely to report when they’ve found something interesting

So if we ran it, we’d probably get something like a 10% chance of getting a whistle

[south horizon]

I got a seacloth
Source: trust me

[steel hedge]

Also from my current tracking of all other containers, i can say pretty safely say that the spread of items is RNG, you have 1-2 that spike high, 1-2 that go low, the rest is very much avg chance %

[robust badge]

posting for my friend

[wintry steeple]

posting for a friend

[upper fjord]

i do wonder if the strat is to just fully invest in the lockboxes, since both mounts drop from them. i guess it depends on how the rng shakes out and how many boxes on average you'd need to buy for the adenium

[candid hearth]

and how much you want the other mount/stuff while not wanting to pay for those

[upper fjord]

i'll probably commit to just buying those initially, for a couple reasons:

• to be able to contribute more information here
• i want peerifool more lol

[steel hedge]

There is current 50 unique items inside the boxes, so to even have a chance of getting every one a single time, would you have to open 50 boxes

And there is alot of dyes missing that can be inside, so prolly even more, if we assume same % droprate for every item

[honest plover]

No, for each box you'd have a 1 in 50 chance of getting any specific item; you'd have to open a lot more more than 50 boxes because you will get duplicates

[upper fjord]

yeah, and i doubt every item has the exact same drop rate anyhow

[steel hedge]

All other boxes show a very similar drop rate, so it is likely that they have

[lament isle]

Sample size is way too small. End analysis.

:3

[steel hedge]

Even the famous venture boxes, where the community says that white and jet black have a low drop chance, even that is just imagination

[candid hearth]

has someone collected the data for that somwhere?

[steel hedge]

Yep me

[candid hearth]

what's the sample size on that?

[steel hedge]

that is just myself

[candid hearth]

oh the coffers themselves, not the quick venture results, I misunderstood.

[steel hedge]

could collect from all users of the plugin, but 2300 is definitely a bigger sample size

[steel hedge]

if you wanna know the drop chance

Same goes for the grand company boxes, opened 707 of them, and the avg for each drop is around 1,13%
you have spikes up, spikes down, RNG in the end

But you can't say that SE has clearly made some drops be worse

[lament isle]

Can't say they haven't w/r/t the new system either.

You can make an observation based on old systems, and make an inference, but without data, it's just that.

[candid hearth]

the vouchers would be a huge trap if the adenium drop rate was merely 1/50.

well...maybe that's hyperbole.

[upper fjord]

weighted rng is very much a thing in this game, as someone who frequents eureka and bozja and has opened many coffers there

[steel hedge]

There is a higher chance that they follow the "old" system, for the same kind of system they now implemented

and GC + venture boxes aren't actually that old

venture boxes are 5.0? if i'm not wrong

and GC is 6.0

[lament isle]

I'm not saying you're wrong or right, just no data to back it up w/r/t to this new box. It would make it easy on SE if they just modeled all the boxes as the same, less work on their end. (And lucky to those that got to sell their whistles for multiple millions of gil. 🤣 )

End of the day, rng gonna rng. ; ;

[upper fjord]

content-wise these boxes are much more similar to the lockboxes in eureka and bozja, imo

[lament isle]

Sorry, brain fuzzy. You have data that correlates among the ingame boxes that SE has a way of doing things, yes.

But until the data is collected on new boxes to confirm, etc.

[steel hedge]

Why should they be? They work exactly like the GC boxes

[upper fjord]

i mean with regards to the mix of items they drop

[steel hedge]

Like even internally, they work over the same mechanic

[upper fjord]

it’s not just one or two things like the venture boxes or gc boxes, it’s clothes, furniture, minions, mounts, little visual effect items, materia

[steel hedge]

I hope that i can collect quite a bit of data on them, in the end that is the fun part :) as you can calculate the avg worth and other things

math, math math

[lament isle]

I did the bonus % leaving chance.

maffs

(But that's a different topic for a different thread 🤡 )

[steel hedge]

in the end these boxes are there for content filling

nice 21 weeks of sanctuary grind

[hard bolt]

When do we start to get those?

[candid hearth]

favors? rank 19 once your stuff is built.

if you want to learn more, it's better to ask in #💵︱island-chat though

[obsidian shoal]

wow people are selling the mounts for 150m+ lol

[low cedar]

But are people buying them for that much

[obsidian shoal]

yes.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fair oasis]

From the data we have so far, here's everything that's in these boxes (reminder that everything is also MB/Tradeable):

• *The 2 new mounts (Peerifool/Adenium)
• *Some exclusive glam and furniture
• Faerie Pendant Wall Light, Island Leaf Headdress, Minmisle Top Hat, Mobile Garden Stairs, and Wildflower Bed
• Everything(?) tradeable via / except for the Ishgardian Restoration dyes
• Furniture, G9/10 DoH/DoL Materia, and Fireworks
• Venture Coffer dyes
• Jet Black, Pure White, Metallic, and Pastel dyes (not Gunmetal/Pearl/Brass, those are Ishgardian)
• Some (not all) treasure map materials, Level 80 and below (some stuff is still missing such as Calf Leather, but may need more data for that)
• Some random minions from 3.0 & 4.0 GC coffers?

If anyone gets any of the following, please @ me immediately:

• Any mount that isn't the Adenium or Peerifool.
• Any materia that is not IX/X DoH/DoL (different grades or DoW/DoM materia).
• Any Ishgardian Restoration or non-Venture Coffer dyes.
• Any Level 90 special treasure map materials
• Any new item that is unique, outside of the ones above, listed under "Exclusive Glam and Furniture".

[spring lintel]

I don't have a house, damn you! =/

[marble lichen]

Peerifool mount seems not to be too rare, I assume the price would drop quickly once more people reached r19. Adenium mount on the other hand, seems pretty rare.

[weary flint]

I'd honestly expect more people to be getting fireworks if rewards were weighted

[marble lichen]

there'll be pitchfork in front of SE office if you're mostly getting junk from this like in bozja, you're only getting 7 chances max per week after all.

[near nebula]

[4:48]You obtain a piece of indigo cloth.
[4:48]You obtain a craftsman's command materia IX.
[4:48]You obtain a pot of general-purpose dark blue dye.
[4:49]You obtain a garden creek.
[4:49]You obtain a circle of fireglass leather.
[4:49]You obtain a tiny tatsunoko.
[4:49]You obtain 5 islecrackers.

[fading prairie]

Bit the bullet and was rewarded

[rare path]

sad trombone

[honest plover]

You got stonewalled

[nimble vapor]

we love gacha

[south horizon]

Aww, a lemonade stand. I don't think we've seen that before

[south horizon]

Oh, also congrats on the Adenium

lmao

[torpid karma]

Lol that's the part I focused on

[half glacier]

People are selling the Adenium for half the gil cap total

[south horizon]

I think the lemonade stand is legit new info though!

[half glacier]

What I might do is start putting together a spreadsheet of all items noted and try to get initial drop chance calculations (small sample size as is, it's still useful to start collecting data over the long term)

[umbral atlas]

I'm actually doing this on a personal spreadsheet

[viral forge]

yawn

[pastel widget]

wait so, the box can drop both mounts?

[hidden idol]

Based on the results The adeniun doesn’t seem any rarer than the peerifool

[candid hearth]

Low sample size but maybe.

[sacred wolf]

Moar data!

[steel hedge]

Bom Boko

[sacred wolf]

Time for that to haunt me again, this time from boxes instead of my retainers

[steel hedge]

Atleast it is not the stuffed version

[sacred wolf]

Not wrong

[obsidian shoal]

for me its stuffed alpha...

[rare path]

suddenly, i don't feel as bad about my first 7 containers

[candid hearth]

Gacha:

[nimble vapor]

congrats, you've got twins

[mild umbra]

These material containers are wild lol

[tardy sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012115185978314812/1160988155420360874/image.png?ex=6536a97a&is=6524347a&hm=4bc577ba2189d535875fbc25ee7fb7c89e14f442ec370493fe0fe80600fa130d&

[steel hedge]

Current Stats:
Opened: 328
Peerifool: 2.44% (8x)
Adenium: 1.52% (5x)

Highest % =
Mobile Garden Stairs 5.49% (18x)
Island Leaf Headdress 5.49% (18x)

Lowest % =
Odder Otter, Isleworks Coconut Juice, Vegetal Voucher, Lemonade Stand, Colorful Flower Patch, all 1x

if someone wants spreadsheet with just the amounts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qv_l6Ht1aiJyu9DNSEH_j94P2M00JhjgTwTjuTsmrBg/edit?usp=sharing

[fair oasis]

Vouchers? Interesting. Weird but interesting.

[fair oasis]

Also the google doc is locked

[steel hedge]

got it from here

[fair oasis]

Oh that number is higher than 1x

[steel hedge]

yeah amount = 1x

because you also get 5 of the fireworks

but for % it doesn't matter

[fair oasis]

No I know, just interesting it was a 2

[steel hedge]

also fixed

not gonna do fancy stuff in the spreadsheet, plugin already does that for me x3

[fair oasis]

Still no Calf Leather, hmmm

[steel hedge]

We also still miss dyes, so there is definitely more lurking in the dark

[fair oasis]

Also surprised no Ishgardian dyes; the only things from the / vendor I'd expect to be in there but isn't.

[fair oasis]

Yeah if Jet Black, Pastel, and Metallic are on the list, I have to assume the entirety of Venture Coffers (sans Retainer Fantasia) is in there.

[steel hedge]

likely that they just copied the venture coffer drop table

[fair oasis]

(sans retainer fanta)

[steel hedge]

or we just haven't seen it yet

[fair oasis]

That would be exceptionally odd to have those in there IMO

I'm fine giving all the Venture Coffer dyes the BOTD, but not Retainer Fantasia until I see it

[steel hedge]

But yeah, both mounts are bang in the middle of drop %

[fair oasis]

Honestly, assuming that's not confirmation bias, it's not a terrible spread.

If those are the actual drop rates (obs sample size too small), it's definitely more than worth always going for boxes over vouchers.

[steel hedge]

gonna add upload data in some days, that would remove big parts of bias

[maiden bay]

I feel like they purchased 1 box, then bought 2 vouchers, then opened the box

[fair oasis]

I mean, if someone wants to be a total scumbag and get banned from the #1034960519435649124...
(PS: No we're not going to ban people for accidents, but malicious/false info, yes)

[maiden bay]

i mean more I think they were just showing what came from the box (the kid) and then there was an assumption made

[fair oasis]

Lucky can you confirm that you did in fact get those 2 vouchers from a material container, or did you purchase them separately and accidentally left that in your screenshot?

[obtuse anvil]

do we still need pictures?

[maiden bay]

doesnt hurt, more data is more data

[shy rune]

ah sorry, I bought those vouchers separately

[steel hedge]

time to delete them

but smart me thought of something like this happening, so i made it easy to delete stuff xD

[fair oasis]

Sadge.

[obsidian anvil]

So uh, this was my second coffer ever.

[fair oasis]

Lol grats! and the third one?

[obsidian anvil]

Wildflower bed

[fair oasis]

(we'd like all the data, not just confirmation bias)

Wildflower bed
Thank you

[obsidian anvil]

sorry got excited lol im shaking

[fair oasis]

All good, grats on getting the second-best drop from the coffer!

[maiden bay]

I'm scowling, at my fieldcrackers

[maiden bay]

second?

[fair oasis]

Adenium is rarer

[maiden bay]

oh, maybe

[fair oasis]

(also to the public, a rainbow, extra effect when flying mount is going to be considered "better" than a zombie one)

[maiden bay]

they're both hideous to me

[fair oasis]

Either way, both are very rare

[steel hedge]

updated the spreadsheet, removed voucher and added last data

343 opened now

[obsidian shoal]

i believe there should be some google sheets formulas that could be implemented that could auto generate stats for each item as you stick it in, yes? i am sooooo rusty with google sheets/excel but this feels very feasible in case you were doing it by hand

[steel hedge]

I don't actually use spreadsheet, i just export my plugins data to a csv format and share it here

my knowledge of spreadsheet goes towards zero xD

[obsidian shoal]

oh i see haha, interesting fair enough, i just thought that'd make it easier if you were inputting the data into spreadsheets by hand. is it the same doc that you keep updating?

[steel hedge]

yeah, i will just use the upload csv function that spreadsheets provides, this will replace the whole table with the csv content

[obsidian shoal]

ahhh i see. hmm that would probably overwrite any formulas id give then

[maiden bay]

you'd just use formulas in a different sheet and have them reference the entire column rather than specific cells so they'd still work with whatever data

[obsidian shoal]

ohhh yeah i forget you can do that. like i said i am Extremely rusty with excel/sheets, i legitimately havent fussed with them much since high school

[maiden bay]

you mean you don't all dream in spreadsheets? weird

[obsidian shoal]

i dream in vegetables

[keen light]

Imagine though, the gamba on spending 10 tokens to possibly get 2 vouchers.

[rough sun]

Got Materia 3 times (woo...),
a Korpokkur Kid minion,
a Chocobo Stable Essentials furniture,
a General Purpose Jet-Black Dye,
and the Mobile Garden Stairs furniture.

[wide flame]

Here are my garbage drops. Only 2 because I didn't want to grind.

[steel hedge]

Could you give us the materia names please :)?

[rough sun]

Craftsman's Command IX x2 and Craftsman's Competence IX

[lucid stag]

https://i.gyazo.com/bf337a1a4d27d428181d9fec8f6581dc.png

also forgot to screencap the last two I opened before relogging but they were:

craftsman's command materia X
stone garden wall

[tired pond]

Seeing more mounts than I expected o.O

[ripe shadow]

Messed up the screenshot by doing item search but I got:
Craftsman's Cunning IX
Gatherer's Guerdon X
Waterproof Cloth
Cieldalaes Planter
Stone Garden Wall
Minmisle Top Hat
Fieldcrackers

[steel hedge]

Short update, there is 65 unique items that we know of

and the Mobile Garden Stairs is now by far the highest drop with 6.33% (28x)

[marble lichen]

Price of stairs on JP side is already sub-million and still hardly anyone buying them.

[arctic smelt]

I sold mine for 3 mil last week on na

[fading prairie]

sold for 10m on Ravana

[marble lichen]

Mine first list at 5.5m and had to keep lowering the price until 970k now and still no one buying, lol

At least the tophat I sold for 15 mil.

[arctic smelt]

so basically JP was smart enough to realize how common they are as a drop and no one else was

[keen light]

JPN got lucky and went for gacha instead of the guarantee, because the data sheets for drop rates must be grown

[marble lichen]

Peerifool mount still sold 50mil+ easily even though it doesn't seem to be that rare.

[pastel widget]

it's not that rare, but everyone that's dropping is probably using, so market is still shallow af

[upper fjord]

yeah, i assume the majority of people getting the new mounts are probably using their drops first

any extras they’ll sell

[honest plover]

In the first couple of weeks I'd probably do it the other way around

[upper fjord]

my rule is always “first one is mine” but i know others who feel differently

have a friend who was running amr and sold both the flutes he got and made major bank before he got a mount for himself lol

[honest plover]

Depends how much I want it 😁

[marble lichen]

I'd probably sell peeriful for 50 mil then buy it back later when it drops to like a mil, lol

[solar zinc]

WHELP!

$$$$

[next quail]

Might as well add to the chaos

[obsidian shoal]

https://universalis.app/market/41649

https://universalis.app/market/41650

just for links to direct market data, fairly accurate

peerifool definitely feels like the higher drop just from mb prices alone

[broken trellis]

Wowza! Guess I’m selling it if I get it! lol 😂

[upper fjord]

yeah, solely based on marketboard numbers i’d lean towards adenium having a lower drop rate, though it may also mean more people are using the adenium whistle comparatively

[umbral atlas]

So far %s are these but 466 items may still be a low enough sample

[obsidian shoal]

arguably mb would say the percentages would be worse than ours, so it's just overall hard to say

[steel hedge]

I would take a first picture after we have reached 1000 boxes, that should give a somewhat accurate picture

ofc we can run into bias of people posting here, but i don't think the bias will be that big as i myself bring in data that isn't biased with the plugin uploading any opening regardless of drop

[keen light]

I haven't decided yet if I want to go for the guarantee or the gamba.
I'll decide next week maybe

[steel hedge]

I mean, perifool only comes from the boxes

so you either buy it, or you have to go and buy boxes to even have a chance for it

[upper fjord]

i do think there’s going to be at least some bias for a couple reasons:

• people not being aware of the thread
• people feeling like they should only upload to the thread if they get smth new, or interesting

[south horizon]

I still maintain there's going to be a ton of bias in this thread

But the plugin is good

[steel hedge]

I mean we will prolly also see a sharp drop in boxes opened if people get perifool and think they "got the important thing"

without knowing that you can get the other mount too

[upper fjord]

it seems like that knowledge is decently widespread now, though, it’s on ffxiv collect, the wikis, etc

[obsidian shoal]

i'm definitely uploading everything period, personally

but that's just me

even my seacrackers

[umbral atlas]

New minion o:

[feral elm]

Old minion idr what it's from but it definitely isn't new

[fair oasis]

Skyscrips

[upper fjord]

yeah, hunting hawk has been in the game for a while, i got mine from hoh i think

but they might just mean it’s a new drop from this, idk

has anybody else posted hunting hawk yet?

[steel hedge]

Hunting hawk should be a minion from HW or even ARR

[upper fjord]

3.1

800 skybuilders scrip, heaven on high silver/gold sack

[steel hedge]

But yeah, is the first time someone got it from this box

it's also inside the 4.0 GC boxes, so not totally unexpected that it could be a drop

[upper fjord]

3.0 box, but yeah

[steel hedge]

Wait, so it is HW

both HoH and Skybuilder are later, so there must have been a method of obtaining it that isn't here anymore

Ah, Diadem Exploratory Mission, which was removed at some point

[subtle wigeon]

Well, I suppose my luck could've been worse

[upper fjord]

diadem got reworked for the final time when they added the firmament iirc

[upper fjord]

hey, dyes are money

[eager robin]

I did some other stuff before opening my boxes (so it wont' say "you obtain 7 containers") but I opened all of them in a row so here it is:

From a quick scroll up, I think the garden creek is new from this (even though it's only 1k cowries in the shop 🫠)

[near nebula]

Nah, I posted a garden creek last week, my results were about as bad as yours.

[desert portal]

that would be first try Island Adenium Whistle

[odd arrow]

but what about the other 6 👀

[desert portal]

Adenium whistle, seacracker, pure white dye, dark-blue dye, peerifool whistle, rabbit minion and indigo cloth

[obsidian shoal]

wow wtf

lucky duck

you get to never try again. you won island sanctuary gg

[tacit talon]

it's always the frenchies...

[pastel widget]

droprate of these mounts look reassuringly high

makes me happy

[eager robin]

Be aware that like Mienna said, there's going to be a STRONG mount bias in this chat, most people aren't going to post their shit rolls.

[steel hedge]

Thanks for translating :) makes it easier to add

[deep slate]

Yeah, before they reworked the Diadem it was a drop in there from a FATE or something. It was enormously rare and money-making at that time before they changed it to the other options. -just adding my two cents there-

[hidden idol]

In my 4 rolls so far I've gotten, Gatherers Guile X, Garden Stairs, general purpose Dark Green dye, and the flowery island leaf headdress (whatever its called). Didnt get a pic, sorry

[steel hedge]

Stats: (Next update closer to 1000 boxes)
We have now 564 boxes recorded

Perifool 2.66%
Adenium 1.24%

Island Leaf Headdress 4.26%
Mobile Garden Stairs 6.21%

Difference isn't much to the old values

- This includes plugin data -

[untold helm]

waaaa

[honest plover]

A wild gazebo - roll for initiative!
(this is a really old meme from before we had memes)

[untold helm]

Why is the gazebo 3K while the stairs are 2mil

is it bought with cowries

oh it is

[severe stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/171118621471408128/1161823097448579182/image.png?ex=6539b314&is=65273e14&hm=4bca182a3fc2c431fecb111e0463c4f05d8964b17f3e89981e8e571fd6898271&

[true parrot]

nothing important

[rare path]

second week in a row of absolute dogshit 😦

[obtuse anvil]

garbage

[near nebula]

[3:17]You obtain 2 sanctuary materiel containers.
[3:17]You obtain a gatherer's guerdon materia IX.
[3:17]You obtain an island leaf headdress.

[upper fjord]

so as of right now, is it looking like these have weighted/variable drop rates similar to the eureka and bozja lockboxes/the gc lockboxes?

[steel hedge]

Weighted so that a random furnishing item is by far the lowest drop rate?

One mount being in the middle of % and the other even in the higher %

[umbral atlas]

I don't have the same data as Infi, 638 items, but:

• Any Treasure Maps Crafting mat (4): 8.29%
• Any Dye (13): 9.08%
• Any Furnishing-like object (15, not Wildflower Bed or Mobile Garden Stairs): 12.83%
• Wildflower Bed: 3.91%
• Mobile Garden Stairs: 5.48%
• Any Glamour (2): 7.67%
• Any Materia IX (6): 16.20%
• Any Materia X (6): 10.09%
• Any Minion (11): 10.8%(*)
• Any Firecracker (4): 11.42%
• Island Adenium Whistle: 1.41%
• Island Peerifool Whistle: 2.82%

* May have to separate minions into two rarities? There's a group between 10-7% and another between 3-4%. Could be sample size bias though, could be not:

[upper fjord]

interesting, thank you

[near nebula]

Isn't Coconut Water also a furnishing?

Is it noticably distinct from the others?

[umbral atlas]

IS it? I though it was food o:

[near nebula]

It's a placeable meal.

[umbral atlas]

Oh I see, hmmm

[upper fjord]

the different rarities for different minions thing is interesting, if it’s not a product of sample size bias. i just recently found out the gc lockboxes have significantly lower drop rates for certain mounts and minions that are rare drops from their corresponding content (the deep dungeon mounts, the eureka mounts, a few specific eureka minions)

[umbral atlas]

That at least makes a bit of sense, that single "Food" item was weird. Updated the % above

[steel hedge]

where did you get your data from?

Also you would need to combine Mounts and Furnishing,

[umbral atlas]

This thread and some were posted at first on #💵︱island-chat

[near nebula]

One thing I'm noticing as I look over the minion pool is that it looks a /lot/ like the silver-haloed sack pool.

Not identical, possibly just a stock set of "add these minions to lootboxes"

But if someone pulls out a Baby Brachiosaur or Morpho at some point, I won't be shocked.

[steel hedge]

Oh, we just reached 666 records after putting in all data from here

[viscid sail]

duty popped while opening so 2 screenshots for the pile

[night urchin]

uuuuh 3 hats?

[tacit talon]

ez money is what i call that one

[verbal crown]

got scammed again

[near nebula]

[14:01]You obtain 5 sanctuary materiel containers.
[14:02]You obtain a gatherer's guerdon materia IX.
[14:02]You obtain a craftsman's cunning materia X.
[14:02]You obtain a set of chocobo stable essentials.
[14:02]You obtain an island Peerifool whistle.
[14:02]You obtain a pot of general-purpose pastel purple dye.

[umbral atlas]

~100 items later, the minion situation improved slightly, now Hunting Hawk is as common as the ones in the 7-10% group I said previously, so it's probably all have the same chances and we just got hit by small sample bias, deltas are:

+1 Bom boko
+2 Dwarf Rabbit
+3 Hunting Hawk
+1 Odder Otter
+1 Tiny Tatsunoko

[steel hedge]

Can't see the same picture in mine, with 900 records, the minions drift even further apart

Tiny Tatsunoko is 1,34% while some others are a mare 0,33%

[umbral atlas]

I see o:

[steel hedge]

Same with dyes, you have some that spikes abose 1,1% while others go even low as 0,2%

seems weird if everything in a group would have the same chance, and its not just RNG

But yeah, biggest issue currently is just the limited data we have, with 7 boxes per week not being that much

[autumn flame]

I don't have a screenshot but my first time I only had two containers (cause I was late to 19) and got the stairs and the gazebo from them

[stark linden]

I should have just waited lmao. Oh well

[ebon juniper]

🎊

[sacred wolf]

I provide my disappointing acquisitions

[near nebula]

As to the minions and dyes, I suspect they've inherited the same relative rarities as like venture coffers and silver sacks.

[steel hedge]

There is no rarity to dyes in the venture coffers

They are all avg 4,5%

[near nebula]

Yeah, and I honestly expect that with a large enough data pool, all of the dyes will be equal rarity, they're just a smaller pocket of this data.

[desert portal]

leaf headdress x2, mobile garden stairs, indigo cloth, minmisle top hat, seacrackers, peerifool whistle

[twin stone]

Nice, First container, Peerifool Whistle

[still belfry]

[6:19]You obtain 4 sanctuary materiel containers.
[6:19]You obtain a pot of general-purpose jet black dye.
[6:20]You obtain a bolt of waterproof cloth.
[6:20]You obtain 5 tropicrackers.
[6:20]You obtain 5 fieldcrackers.

[winter fog]

Voucher Mount can come from the container.

[severe silo]

I got a lot of minions

[obsidian shoal]

oho, first adenium in what feels like awhile

[polar hornet]

https://i.imgur.com/lwIslW4.png

[sonic hearth]

oof

[bleak trellis]

holy moly

[tired pond]

People here making it look easy

lol

[arctic ermine]

Last I checked this wasn't there, so going to share

[steel hedge]

pls share verything you get

else there will be alot of "bias" if people only show parts

[upper fjord]

we have seen bom boko before, but also yeah, even if it’s not new or exciting it’s important to share everything to get more accurate numbers

[arctic ermine]

Oh I see, will make sure to do that then!
(next time I get favors)

[sharp reef]

lol, lmao even

[true locust]

I got Guerdon Materia IX, then a Dwarf rabbit and a bombfish minions...I ended up buying vouchers with the rest of the containers.

[cyan oar]

too late to get a screenshot of the messages, but my 2 boxes today were: Waterproof Cloth and Road Sparrow [Minion]

[steel hedge]

1099 Records later
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VfncSL5gf9E7ehgND5nZgguUyUAmZiAMbQllLKcoxTQ/edit?usp=sharing

I created a big spreadsheet for multiple box types, and gonna update it whenever new data comes over the following weeks

Also still no big diff in rates, 2,64% Peri, 1,00% Adenium
Garden Stairs still first with 6,10%

[near nebula]

So about one in 38 boxes have a perifool whistle so far.

[upper fjord]

unrelated, for the gc coffer ones, did you decide to not include things that didn’t drop? i noticed the night pegasus and copycat bulb seem to be missing

[near nebula]

I can say with absolute certainty that the copycat bulb can drop from the Container 4, but I've only seen the one out of far too many other boxes opened.

[fair oasis]

Well soon I'm gonna add 999 data points to that list, so hopefully I'll see a few.

[near nebula]

I opened the one I found in December 2021, and 8 or so a week since haven't had any more.

[fair oasis]

Oh Infi I never noticed you kept track of Venture/3.0/4.0, that makes my decision to open my challenge coffers a lot easier.

[upper fjord]

oh yeah i worded that weird, i meant “didn’t drop for you”

that’s why i mentioned those two specifically, i know they drop but they weren’t included

[near nebula]

No, I know

I was just saying I can (unfortunately anecdotally) confirm it's on the drop table

[upper fjord]

oh lol i thought you were telling me that. my bad

wish i was that lucky, it’s one of the last mb available minions i need but i’m Cheap

[near nebula]

I still have vague regrets

[steel hedge]

I keep track of these 3 for some months already, lockboxes are fresh, but i have access to data regarding all lockboxes, so bozja and eureka

[near nebula]

I opened it literally day 1 the boxes were added, went "Shit, this is going to crash the market", sold it for 15M, turned out they're still super-rare and didn't move the market at all, but the price later drifted down to around 8M because people were farming Eureka with nothing better to do. Now it's at like 20M.

[upper fjord]

i should get back to pagos bunny farming

[steel hedge]

The list includes all drops, if something isn't on there it is either not in the box or just hasn't been dropped yet

and with night pegasus drop rate being speculated to be 0,01% it is likely we just have been unlucky

Also the data shown there isn't just me, its what people have uploaded using my plugin
So you can say that this data is definitely unbiased, as the plugin uploads any opening and not just selected ones (as you can either give permission or don't)

[upper fjord]

i see, interesting

i’ve seen another list that also got 0 night pegasus or copycat bulb drops, so that also makes sense

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F5d27nt2tc3EIS_Ks1JR3nj5OF3cuDEdBhMo-v5TkyQ/htmlview#

i think this was a collaboration between two people

[steel hedge]

Data that will be added at some point:
Deep Dungeon Sacks
Eureka Bunny Chests

And yeah, that is also why i can say that Venture Coffers are definitely not "unfair", people just have the image that white and black drop less, but the truth is they are all around 4,5%

[upper fjord]

that’s not too surprising

it’s probably bias since those two dyes see a lot more use

[fading prairie]

Watching spreadsheet with keen intrestr

[white flame]

I do the thing. I add to science.

[fair oasis]

Man the game sure does love giving me furniture and junk.

Alt meanwhile gets a Peerifool on 5th coffer I shit you not.

[obsidian shoal]

just trade it to your main. ez gg

[lucid stag]

https://i.gyazo.com/88e550fdbeeb09f0a57d51d26c24fc0b.png

[sharp arch]

pog

[tawdry yacht]

My husband got his first 7 boxes this morning. I didn’t get a screenshot, but he got BOTH the Perifool and Adenium!

[steel hedge]

We would need to know all items, as we sadly can't just take 2 out of 7 into consideration

[restive jolt]

First 60 tokens from my island 😮

[restive forum]

just the three I got today because I forgot to take screenshots before....
[17:57]You obtain 3 sanctuary materiel containers.
[17:58]You obtain a bolt of seacloth.
[17:58]You obtain a flight of mobile garden stairs.
[17:58]You obtain a set of chocobo stable essentials.

[crimson tiger]

dissapointment.

[sonic hearth]

junk

[grizzled dune]

https://i.imgur.com/xN91iN8.png

[still belfry]

[19:30]You obtain a wildflower bed.
[19:30]You obtain a flight of mobile garden stairs.
[19:30]You obtain a circle of fireglass leather.

[lilac breach]

[13:04]You obtain 2 sanctuary materiel containers.
[13:05]You obtain an island Peerifool whistle.
[13:05]You obtain a craftsman's command materia X.

[steel remnant]

https://i.imgur.com/kRQtudl.png forgot to screenshot the first 2 (they were earlier this week) but they were a gatherer's guerdon materia IX and a pastel purple dye

[worn tinsel]

Opening 2 containers a week, for the record I got 1x each of Seacracker and Islecracker last week

[steep spoke]

You obtain 3 sanctuary materiel containers.
You obtain a wildflower bed.
You obtain a craftsman's cunning materia X.
You obtain an island leaf headdress.

[restive forum]

[18:20]You obtain a sanctuary materiel container.
[18:21]You obtain a craftsman's command materia IX.

[lucid stag]

https://i.gyazo.com/6e6f513620730c93ce8050366e6b42e8.png

[near nebula]

Have we seen anything new in a while? It feels like the only option is maybe another minion we've just been unlucky on pulling, but doesn't seem strongly likely.

[steel hedge]

We have most likely seen everything, 65 unique items

[grizzled dune]

https://i.imgur.com/ETsDEvk.png

[stray portal]

im kinda shaking rn

[candid hearth]

X_X

[wise lark]

Only 6 because I opened one earlier in the week

[obsidian shoal]

fresh hot garbage right off the grill

[vestal grove]

[lucid stag]

https://i.gyazo.com/85e8e715e39201b1b21ee64b8d2db179.png

[molten loom]

Forgot to SS my first lot, here's my second

[vital wagon]

General-purpose Dark Brown Dye
Mushroom Medley Lamp
tropicrackers x5
Island Leaf Headdress
Wildflower Bed
Craftsman's Competence Materia IX
Castaway Chocobo Chick
General-purpose Metallic Silver Dye
Craftsman's Competence Materia IX
Craftsman's Competence Materia IX
Island Leaf Headdress

[fair oasis]

I'll just @ you now and request the translation if it's not that big a deal (doesn't have to be now, just at some point)
Feel free to just edit your post above

[hoary quartz]

[7:01]You obtain 7 sanctuary materiel containers.
[7:01]You obtain a serving of coconut water.
[7:01]You obtain Ghido.
[7:02]You obtain a piece of indigo cloth.
[7:02]You obtain a craftsman's command materia IX.
[7:02]You obtain a craftsman's cunning materia X.
[7:02]You obtain a pot of general-purpose dark blue dye.
[7:02]You obtain 5 tropicrackers.

uh maybe pic was better idea

[fair oasis]

Whichever you prefer to do is fine. AFAIK the people who keep tabs can make do with either.

[restive forum]

[14:19]You obtain 3 sanctuary materiel containers.
[14:19]You obtain a garden creek.
[14:19]You obtain a stone garden wall.
[14:19]You obtain a gatherer's guerdon materia IX.

[flint moat]

[8:17]You obtain an island garden fence.
[8:18]You obtain a wildflower bed.
[8:18]You obtain a bolt of waterproof cloth.
[8:18]You obtain a flight of mobile garden stairs.
[8:18]You obtain a circle of fireglass leather.
[8:18]You obtain a piece of indigo cloth.

[fathom copper]

[9:12]You obtain a craftsman's command materia IX.
[9:12]You obtain 5 tropicrackers.
[9:12]You obtain 5 fieldcrackers.
[9:12]You obtain a pot of general-purpose pastel green dye.
[9:12]You obtain 5 seacrackers.
[9:12]You obtain a colorful flower patch.
[9:12]You obtain an island Peerifool whistle.

[leaden stirrup]

+1 stone garden wall I got earlier in the week

[pallid fossil]

[12:28]You obtain 7 sanctuary materiel containers.
[12:29]You obtain Bom Boko.
[12:29]You obtain a bolt of seacloth.
[12:29]You obtain a gatherer's grasp materia X.
[12:29]You obtain 5 fieldcrackers.
[12:29]You obtain a tiny tatsunoko.
[12:29]You obtain a minmisle top hat.
[12:29]You obtain a pot of general-purpose jet black dye

[steel hedge]

Is monday reset day for this ... ?

[sonic hearth]

No. It's on the same weekly reset as everything else

A little over 12 hours from now

[umbral atlas]

Monday is day 7 so maybe people finished favors before next C1

[steel hedge]

ah, that explains the insane volume of data today

[steel hedge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VfncSL5gf9E7ehgND5nZgguUyUAmZiAMbQllLKcoxTQ/edit#gid=1650753203

2000 records have been passed

drop % haven't changed much, they are very stable with a mix of data from here and plugin

Adenium 1.01% | Perifool 2.75%

Mobile Garden Stairs 5.84% | Wildflower Bed 4.88%

Even with the bias that could be added by people here only posting "lucky" draws, the % has been very consistent ... So the avg for both mounts can be expected to be around 1% and 2.5%

There wasn't any new items in the last 1400 records, 65 unique items should be the the final result

[fair oasis]

As long as Adenium doesn't drop below 0.5%, it'll still be worth going for boxes over Vouchers if your end goal is getting an Adenium

[keen light]

I'm expecting someone to do this for 52 weeks and still get nothing

[umbral atlas]

I mean, right now it's a ~15% of not getting the mount after 200 coffers

[grizzled dune]

https://i.imgur.com/4j0Yn4n.png

[upper fjord]

will likely be reporting back later tonight with the next 3 containers i get, since my last favor crafts finish in a little over 5 hours

[noble vessel]

Here some unlucky data

[indigo sonnet]

@steel hedge Where can I find your plugin to contribute data?

[broken trellis]

First one was the Top Hat the other day but i forgot to screenshot it.

[steel hedge]

Is mentioned in the spreadsheet info page

[indigo sonnet]

oh it's actually in the official repo, I was so confused trying to find what repo contains it

[honest plover]

I wanted to put the list of coffer contents into the Favors info - do we think all of the contents have been documented? Seems to a while since anything new has been discovered.

[upper fjord]

it certainly seems that way

[steel hedge]

There wasn't any new items in the last 1400 records

so yes, it is very likely

[honest plover]

Thanks!

[steel hedge]

If there is some 0,01% item inside, we will know at some point, but right now we can assume it is done

[upper fjord]

part 2, the theme? stairs

[hollow wing]

has anyone gotten a vegetal voucher from a container?

[autumn notch]

[true locust]

Well that was interesting . got to lvl 19 on an alt and just had enough time to get 1 container only this week. Here is the 1/1 result

[steel hedge]

Nop, not inside the containers

[deep axle]

https://i.gyazo.com/83398c00735f470438049d10c0ed72cd.png

[near nebula]

The voucher thing was a misunderstanding from someone pasting their purchase of a coffer and a voucher together.

[marble otter]

First Containers ever

[true locust]

😦 I guess those mats are no longer rare (more items crashing on the MB)

[rare path]

oh hey. I FINALLY got a reward worth something. across 21 boxes, the only reward that wasn't materia, a pet, or firecrackers has been a single housing item.

[prisma pivot]

You obtain 6 sanctuary materiel containers.
You obtain a pot of general-purpose dark red dye.
You obtain a craftsman's cunning materia X.
You obtain a pot of general-purpose dark red dye.
You obtain an island adenium whistle.
You obtain Bom Boko.
You obtain an island Peerifool whistle.

[true locust]

The Rng gods are angry... 😩

[near nebula]

[2:20]You obtain 2 sanctuary materiel containers.
[2:20]You obtain an island garden fence.
[2:20]You obtain a minmisle top hat.

[restive forum]

[11:30]You obtain 2 sanctuary materiel containers.
[11:30]You obtain a garden creek.
[11:30]You obtain a wildflower bed.

[grizzled dune]

https://i.imgur.com/Wv8V5nZ.png

[kindred jay]

You obtain 4 sanctuary materiel containers.
You obtain a road sparrow.
You obtain 5 seacrackers.
You obtain a mushroom medley lamp.
You obtain a minmisle top hat.```

[8:24]Aloe V. obtains a set of chocobo stable essentials.
[8:24]Aloe V. obtains a craftsman's competence materia IX.
[8:24]Aloe V. obtains a craftsman's command materia X.

[fathom copper]

[9:05]You obtain a korpokkur kid.
[9:05]You obtain a wildflower bed.
[9:05]You obtain a gatherer's guerdon materia IX.
[9:06]You obtain a bolt of waterproof cloth.
[9:06]You obtain a set of chocobo stable essentials.
[9:06]You obtain a shaggy shoat.
[9:06]You obtain a minmisle top hat.

[still belfry]

[6:26]You obtain 2 sanctuary materiel containers.
[6:26]You obtain a set of chocobo stable essentials.
[6:26]You obtain a craftsman's command materia IX.

[honest plover]

And the other 3? 😄

[fair oasis]

Please don't intentionally only show good items as that will inflate the drop rates for them.

[wraith relic]

was just cutting out what I chatted after getting it

[honest plover]

No worries! Thanks for the data, and congrats on the whistle