#Granary Testing: Daily VS Weekly
brisk musk
oh this is lovely. let me collect today's "set", am done about halfway screenshotting. I much appreciate the tech help.
lunar glen
which location are you doing btw?
brisk musk
they're set to whatever my characters "need", not a preformed testing set.
lunar glen
ah fair enough
brisk musk
I typically set up weekly so today just so happens to be the first day results XD
lunar glen
i'll make it work with the screenshots
with this specific graph maker, am limited to 7 items, which, shouldnt be a issue since we are testing for a soft cap
brisk musk
lunar glen
the goal being testing to prove, even thought you can get 16+ in one day, weekly rarely get above 36, am i saying this right?
brisk musk
that's what I felt was anecdotal evidence, it feels like there's a softcap somewhere but I don't know if it's just coincidence. my day one numbers are pretty crappy XD
single highest number yield for c1/s39 is 12 laver on liz/midgard
lunar glen
hmm
a question
how do i know which screenshot belongs to who
i realized that each toon, need to be isolated to their own line, and then I will average them out per day
brisk musk
I included the character itself in the screenshot to allow for that association but uh
lunar glen
i suppose that is a way
brisk musk
I can label them in the chatbox going forward
lunar glen
i'll give them each a nickname for my data keeping
brisk musk
it's just that interacting with the granary removes most of the rest of the hud >_>
lunar glen
yea that is a limiter
brisk musk
phantom and maduin I only have the one alt each but midgard I got three <_<
lunar glen
just to clarify, these toons are doing 7day expeditions, that are going to be checked on daily?
brisk musk
correct. I don't collect the items, but I'll try to check them daily.
(will collect weekly)
if you prefer I can do a text breakdown too
it's just the aggregation that is making my head break
lunar glen
how my data collection looks so far, i will be making these tables grow as you give me more data
apologies about the names, hehe, have to tell them apart somehow
brisk musk
oh that's perfectly fine, if I gave you their actual names that would make it more complicated, not less so >_> (2x liz, 2x ley, 1x lala)
fluid grove
Just to be clear, there's no data aggregation here. It's literally just writing down what you have every day https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MzEjEcwy_3-vlOeCKo6y34fKWki2lh_rD8309nbXVl4/edit?usp=sharing
lunar glen
oh? is this your add mienna?
fluid grove
I just made it as an example
brisk musk
you mean as a template? sure can do. does "x gained" or "total" make more sense per field/day?
lunar glen
hmm, this would be better then what i was doing, since this is hosted online
and we can make a sheet per each of your toons as well
brisk musk
making a copy and sharing now
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1y1IibHNFOzjcQ_KqWKoeX8sN94hRRC16HxJSrTuGFHY/edit?usp=sharing
lunar glen
hmm... look like we are doing a test run of this test, the main channel making me realized this data is potentially out of date before we even finish a cycle of testing
since you know, next patch gonna add items to island, and potentailly even alter how the granary works
brisk musk
I don't mind, I'll happily throw data at the wall, sort and list it, I'm just too stupid to analyze it/aggregate it in a meaningful way
fluid grove
It depends on how sure you are that this is a thing.
Like, if there is a softcap, something would probably hit it within a week with 10 granaries running
brisk musk
not sure at all. anecdotally, 100% sure I've observed it, whether that means it's a mechanical thing, 0% sure
lunar glen
i just find it odd, that you can have a high day, but rarely get above 40(if even possible), so there maybe something there
there is atleast a trend that it is not pure RNG by that observation, as well as location with more granary slots, on average give less per item
how does this look?
and what we are looking for, is a bunch of lines looking similar to this
and as we overlay more of these
and keep seeing that similar shape of a sharp rise, and then flating out, will mean there is a softcap
fluid grove
I don't mind, I'll happily throw data at the wall, sort and list it, I'm just to...
I mean, that just looks like a lucky day, not a softcap
brisk musk
....probably? maybe? I am honestly quite clueless. but done inputting day one, so XD
my hypothesis: I've "often" seen single day caps of 16 but I've "never" seen weekly totals above 36.
(often and never are totally subjective here and I freely admit that. I want to know if that's observation bias or fact)
fluid grove
A softcap would look like
lunar glen
here this cursed screenshot for kat, it on s39 day 2 thou
brisk musk
definitely cursed.... >_>
lunar glen
A softcap would look like
i dont know why i was assuming there wasnt zero-gain days
there clearly zero-gain days
brisk musk
my initial assumption was that once you hit the cap in one item it would just give you a different item instead.
but not sure if true. you know what they say about assuming.
lunar glen
also, am getting rio number then have to head to bed
brisk musk
well it's gonna be a longterm thing (at least a week but probably more) so no hurry, just a steady plot.
brisk musk
how do we aggregate that?
lunar glen
what? kat and rio, or the fact they are doing the same place in both slots?
because am treating this as if per slot, not per granary
brisk musk
no I meant should I add them to the spushi I started courtesy of Mienna or are you tallying your granaries?
lunar glen
You are free to do so, i was gonna handle my numbers to share the load, but if you are fine number dumping, don't let me stop you
brisk musk
I can try XD or I suppose if there's a way to share the spreadsheet without giving everyone and their grandma access (does that require friending of some sort?) that works too
fluid grove
You can add specific people to a spreadsheet
lunar glen
Did you see it?
brisk musk
no, it just offers me to add an old friend to the list and that's it >_>
lunar glen
Ah, i made an edit request
Oops, and now i spammed it, apologies, was not my intent
Was just looking through the menus on mobile
brisk musk
(I don't see anything happening so XD)
fluid grove
Just DM the email address you want to be added and PG can add it from her end. XP
Ive never had an edit request work, lmao
brisk musk
I assume I can just throw the mail address in the form where it currently wants me to add my buddy XD
lunar glen
Sorted
Kat and rio added, I'll give them their cycle 2 later, when am not supposed to be asleep
lunar glen
Do you think it would also add to this, if we also do total gain of items per day, to see if there a decrease as more items reach the supposed softcap, or do you think the gains will be similar daily
brisk musk
I... really don't know? I'm totally clueless. I had a hypothesis caused by random observation and now I'm collecting data. I don't really know what that data can be used to tell beyond "this is how much I got through time x"
anyway updated for cycle 2 results. I seem to be getting items relatively evenly distributed so far with the only notable number being 18 laver total on Liz/Midgard
lunar glen
hmm... something to think on then, it shouldnt be hard to retro fit, if we deem to find that useful
the only thing to note on rio is that up to three days with no coconuts on one of the slots, i wonder if it will spike late
i am noticing something thou
they are all even numbers
so when you gain, it will atleast be 2
brisk musk
now that you mention it, yeah
brisk musk
well. more dataz. biggest gain per item/day so far: 12, consistently - total item gains per day between 26 (lowest) and 44 (highest) - softcap? inconclusive
lunar glen
right, let me get rio and kat input as well
lunar glen
yea, that seem to be the biggest gain, atleast for that location
well, maybe in general
kat has a 6 to 18, a 12
brisk musk
I know I've gotten 16 of one item on a one-day check in the past, ho hum
lunar glen
that will ahve to wait for later, we really cant establish a base line since things might change
next week we can start a baseline, unless the granary can get upgraded again, which, that might delay us again
brisk musk
well we will get more items and another area, so who knows
I'll keep aggregating data though, it's not like I'll have all my alts immediately at cap or want to micromanage them.
lunar glen
there will be a call to info on patch day, to see what the new items are, and what the new expedition gives
along with other things
brisk musk
I'll see what/if I can contribute to that. I'm a bit of a turtle.
but we shall see~ spreadsheeting doesn't take much time out of my day so I totally can do
brisk musk
day four, data still inconclusive. it looks like the spread is suspiciously even (to reach 24 of one item seems to be the "normal" max for day 4) but I have one outlier at 28. makes me wish I had paid attention during stochastics class (it broke my brain instead) so I could know how large a dataset I need to have reliable data....
lunar glen
day four, data still inconclusive. it *looks* like the spread is suspiciously ev...
It not how large, it is how consistent the data set is. You can have any size of data set, it just means you can see more consistency in the data to form a hypothesis
Also I forgot to put kats and rio data, went fishing, will add them asap so you can have a sneak peek of day 5
lunar glen
atleast for becah
it seem that you are more likely to get 2-4, then anything higher of an item
also kat had a spike that then zero'd
and rio had a two spike
0-10-12-24
do you see it
it nothing concrete, and it could also just be luck
it also missing day 1 but it a fine example of what we are looking for in general
and it rather low to be a softcap, even more since rock salt is having a field day
omg!
am a GOD!
brisk musk
a god, huh? =p
lunar glen
look at kat's sheet
brisk musk
no I meant like, max observed in a single day is 16. max observed in a single day during this test is 12. but despite those jumps being possible, we seem to be getting rather evenly distributed results. so I wonder what the mathematical chances and required data amount would be to theoretically see 12-24-36 sequences.
owwww neat, colored bits!
lunar glen
hopefully we can confirm this 16 gain, atleast
brisk musk
I took a screenshot at some point of getting 16 of one mat in a single day venture
now whether that is the maximum one can conceivably receive I don't know. just the maximum I personally paid attention to.
lunar glen
it seem that it might be limited to the location
like, i dont think rio and kat will ever get at 16 since they are doing beach, the most populated location
it seem no matter the location, the gain will be 30-40
brisk musk
well that 16 is from mossy mountains
and daily total is between 26 and 44 for me iirc
there seems to be a lot of randomness involved but at the same time the results are so.... averaged ô.O
lunar glen
yes, there are extremes, but there is a uniformity to the day to day gains
brisk musk
if I roll a d6 1000 times, how close will I get to an even 1:1:1:1:1:1 spread?
brisk musk
I'm not sure if granary ranks are such a big difference on regular item gains to begin with. could well be it makes little difference.
special item, definitely. but regular? has that been tested?
lunar glen
dont think so
i think we are the first to do any actual testing with regular items, outside of just data collecting
brisk musk
huh. well. WE NEED MORE DATA then XD
brisk musk
unfortunately I don't think I can get another alt up there before the patch....
that's too technical for me.
lunar glen
was joke
pretty sure it like animals capture rates
it too into the weeds for the dataminer to actually tell that what that is
because if a data miner could tell if there was a actual way to make captures easier, they would be herald a hero
brisk musk
we would know all those things already if it was that visible, probably, yeah
lunar glen
will ask xur about it
brisk musk
I'm just a silly old auntie and will keep collecting data.
well. back to the grindstone for me, let's see how much closer to island 6 I can get.
fluid grove
Animal capture rates are not in the game data
Neither is this. The server just tells you what you get
We don’t have any way of knowing how it determines what you get
lunar glen
I'm just a silly old auntie and will keep collecting data.
Added gains for kat and rio, if you like to copy paste that
fluid grove
I don’t think granary ranks are supposed to help normal items though. I thought I read somewhere that landmarks determine that?
lunar glen
Landmarks? That's interesting to hear
lunar glen
landmarks help workshop via groove, so it seem sound
fluid grove
“Constructing landmarks and renovating your granaries will increase the amount of materials your mammets can gather”
So since we know landmarks don’t affect how many rare mats you get, it must affect the amount of normal mats.
lunar glen
Wait... That means, even if we don't get a third granary, we will get better yields due to the 5th landmark
lunar glen
Just more enforcement that is week testing it moot
But hey, it a good practice run and we keep finding more features to add to the tables
Which is kindof causing a rabbit hole effect, tbh
brisk musk
....is that good or bad? sending y'all down a rabbit hole? XD
lunar glen
rio's difference is getting bigger, it almost a whole cycle of a difference
winter vapor
“Constructing landmarks and renovating your granaries will increase the amount o...
Wait, wha
winter vapor
So technically there's like, 7 ranks of Granary atm?
Granary 1-3
Landmarks 1-4
Oh wait granary ranks not tied to that nvm
That's so fucking WEIRD
lunar glen
it a sense, i rather not treat it like that, and just say that landmarkls do the same as wrorkshop and just provide a boost
likea bonus%
but if you see rio's numbers, it possible to go very far apart, the range is geting big
lunar glen
Dubious how?
lunar glen
my toons week is finish, not sure what we can get from it, other then basic info, like item gains are always a even number
lowest 0, highest 12
lowest daily gains 28, highest daily gains 38
althou kat having 80 on day 2, make me sus if it was a 40 40, or as 38-42 or, even a 36-44
highest weekly gain from beach seen is 38
brisk musk
like how the "maximum" observed numbers of one specific item per numbered weekday seem to be a lot lower than the theoretical maximum possible daily.
which is why I'd like to know what the statistical likelihood of 16 occurring, or 12-12 occuring d1/d2, or 12-12-12 occuring later one, is. and how big of a dataset you'd need for those to become visible.
like it kinda looks like the daily top individual item scores are +4 per additional day, starting at 16/20/24/28/32 with would make day 7 exactly the 40 I observed on the regular.
I want to know if those "daily top scores" are just a result of RNG averaging out things naturally, or if it's baked in, because it feels baked in.
...oh I got a 38 on stone today, so there goes that theory, at least as far as hard daily caps go.
lunar glen
the more am thinking about it, no matter what, kat atleast made 40 d1/d2
so 38 isnt the cap
brisk musk
...and a 42 too. I don't think I've ever gotten a number that high. huh.
lunar glen
you do have a 38 on day 6, hmm, i wonder what will happen tomorrow, will it zero out, get 2 or get more
42, well that breaks it then, even more if that 42 get more
althou that a locations that only has 9 items
and you are still stable on the daily gains
198 on day 6 isnt notable
it is actually on the lower side
brisk musk
yeah
but idk as I said, I'd kinda like to know how big a dataset we'd need to catch the outliers, if they exist XD
lunar glen
i should try the location with the lowest amount of items next time, and see if i can break 12 there
lunar glen
but idk as I said, I'd kinda like to know how big a dataset we'd need to catch t...
lol rewording questions: how long are we going to have to do this before anything uselful from it comes out
brisk musk
I'm just gonna keep going for whatever I need and documenting it. chances are that's gonna be the new material on most characters.
XD
lunar glen
i mean, this week for a practice week was informative of certains things, and we got some ranges that are interesting
brisk musk
and also maybe keep both Liz on the same weekly granary setup but collect one daily and one weekly.
lunar glen
but as your core questions of 12-12-12 or 16-16
it rng, and am not sure how we can influence that, and eventualy we are going to have to test, if doing the expedition one by one, and if that has a influence
brisk musk
with my luck that's a question akin to "do cowries have a cap" - yes, but....
lunar glen
^ putting this here for safe keeping
I'll go through it while I am at work, traffic willing
brisk musk
#💵︱island-chat message I think this is where the convo started actually, not sure if a) you saw and b) it's in any shape or form pertinent and c) I linked correctly >_>
lunar glen
I read the convo, was just saving the link for silera sheet
brisk musk
gotcha gotcha. all good. (bop the glypomom, move on)
brisk musk
patch day madness... well, I guess I'm glad I only prepared two alts for explosion and the remaining three for business as usual, so I'll keep doing rank12 granaries on those three and idk what depends on how far I get on the rest on the other two.
lunar glen
i have kat and rio on the new location
i also delayed a day to sync up with your days
brisk musk
"my days" is legit just an ingame season lol
also whoot. I'll get there soon. well, eventually. I'll enter the results after I fix up my alts so I can leave them alone for at least a few hours more.
brisk musk
okay, I got all my season 39 data in and extended my sheets for season 40 (went vertical because you used the space for the graphs, no reason not to go horizontal for the following seasons though as soon as we know what the other ranks bring - yes I'm sure the data is out there already but I'm going MY PACE), the areas for season 40 aren't actually where I sent them - haven't even sent the Lizes anywhere. Just placeholders.
brisk musk
originally I wanted to, but idk we got new stuff anyway... I'll need to figure out how to center window around the data I actually want to edit without creating silly windowframes. maybe by hiding stuff. idk.
I'm just done drinking my coffee, I might rearrange the layout eventually. but not now. too much thought, head empty. gathering time.
lunar glen
go ahead and reformat and i''ll adjust accordingly
and i dont really think the charts are need, i dont think we will find the flat line i thought we would, since we have items reaching all the way to 44
well, according to silera data anyways
brisk musk
I don't think there is a flat line. my theory was softcaps, not hard caps. so. e.g. if you have, say, 24 stone on day 3, you're more likely to get something that isn't stone. But apparently that can be explained away by polynomic functions so we'll see, because if I'm wrong eventually there should be outliers.
not sure how long "eventually" is tho XD
lunar glen
isnt that the benefit of eventually, you just dont know
brisk musk
I mean.... yes, probably XD
I have a shiny cave. and I guess I'll send out my granary slaves for the Lizes as late in the day as I feel comfortable with while I figure out how much I can upghrade meanwhile.... and maybe I need more coffee.
granary rank 4, eh. LEGGOOOOOOOOOOO
lunar glen
lol
yea, we gonna need note of that when they upgrade
althou by silera and mienna, they shouldnt effect the numbers
brisk musk
should only effect rare mats
fluid grove
Granary ranks may or may not affect normal material gain
brisk musk
but upgrading mid-venue is bleh =p
we'll see what we get. if any.
owwww. 6am tho >_>
lunar glen
lol
brisk musk
and it'll be 7 am for the other Liz if I get started now....
well. I've done worse things I guess.
winter vapor
If you want my numbers for the new place at Rank 4 I can do that
It will also include Landmark 5 though
brisk musk
if you want to add your data I'll gladly give you access. or enter your data through screenshots, either works. moar data = always good
winter vapor
I'll post SSs tomorrow
brisk musk
roger that! I got the spreadsheet in a state I feel is workable now. hopefully.
are you sending them out weekly and/or collecting daily?
(should probably have asked that first since I currently don't have a means or an interest in tracking daily changing locations >_>)
verbal hornet
twilit pulsar
lunar glen
45, 40
lunar glen
34, 36
winter vapor
[11:50 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 12 island stones.
[11:50 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[11:50 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 lumps of island coal.
[11:50 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 chunks of island shale.
[11:50 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island glimshrooms.
[11:50 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 bottles of island effervescent water.
[11:50 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 14 chunks of island spectrine.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island stones.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 lumps of island coal.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island glimshrooms.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
[11:51 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 chunks of island spectrine.
Image and Text are the same. Landmark 5 was completed before C2.
winter vapor
Just edited to say that yeah
I had everything 100% finished before C2, except 4th workshop was still R3
lunar glen
That 44 is high and that 52 is a record breaker
winter vapor
lunar glen
I wonder if the uplift is somewhere between 5-10 per landmark
brisk musk
I just rolled out of bed so give me a hot minute. @twilit pulsar @verbal hornet I appreciate more data, but because I'm mostly clueless about this and only really looking to answer some very specific questions, it will only help me if: you're sending your granaries to the same location all week, and I know your rank/granaries/landmarks.
If it wasn't meant for the spreadsheet but rather just as a comparison as to how many items you got in one day, we still kinda need to know what rank your granaries are (though I guess that's indirectly answered by rare mat amount) and how many landmarks you have (which really isn't obvious outside of context).
If this was just for "oh hai new patch, this is how much we got day one" - carry on, thanks for your service, not relevant to my data XD
don't mind me
lunar glen
Oh, i asked for Screenshots to get comparison data, and also someone claimed a abnormally high gain
And then Parrot come with a really high 52
Unfortunately, parrot has both R4 and landmark, so it hard to say which caused the break what was current record
fluid grove
I feel comfortable assuming it’s the landmark, tbh
brisk musk
aaaah okay. and yeah, I'd guess landmark too.
I'll get my islanding for the day started and input my own data and parameters but gimme a hot minute
Just based on my own cycle 1 data, I'd venture a hypothesis that both rank and landmarks matter, even for regular drops. not highly inconclusive obviously.
(possibly I just got a little unlucky)
winter vapor
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island stones.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 lumps of island coal.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 chunks of island shale.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island glimshrooms.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 chunks of island spectrine.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island stones.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 14 lumps of island coal.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 chunks of island shale.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 bottles of island effervescent water.
[4:00 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island spectrine.
Alt's: (G4, Landmark 4 not 5)
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 island stones.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 sacks of island sand.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 lumps of island coal.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 chunks of island shale.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 island glimshrooms.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 chunks of island spectrine.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island stones.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 sacks of island sand.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 lumps of island coal.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 12 chunks of island shale.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island glimshrooms.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 bottles of island effervescent water.
[4:02 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island spectrine.
38 and 40 totals for landmark 4 vs 42 and 48 for landmark 5
lunar glen
38 and 40 totals for landmark 4 vs 42 and 48 for landmark 5
yea, it starting to seem like it a base incase in the range
cant wait to see what the lowest gain will look like
and how it compares that with the lowest of 4 landmarks, which is 28
i'll make a bet and say it 33
brisk musk
and how it compares that with the lowest of 4 landmarks, which is 28
I got 26/day on 4 landmarks/r3 granary multiple times
and hit a high of 46/day on 4 landmarks/r4 granary today
lunar glen
Hmm...
Right, i misspoke
Lowest is not 28
It actually much lower at 20 but it really rare to get that
brisk musk
right, it's doubtful we're going to see the extreme outliers with a comparatively small sample size. I'll hold off on building my landmark/upgrading my granaries where applicable until the end of the week so at least I get clean-ish data.
just wanted to give you a heads-up since you seemed so certain of that 28 lol. Though we should maybe also consider the possibility that some of Silera's datasets are faulty in the same way yours was, that someone's landmarks or granaries weren't fully upgrade completed.
(I highly doubt it's a widespread problem but one unfortunate unupgraded outlier is enough to skew the numbers)
lunar glen
there is truth in that, even more with how often it happens that people didnt get the quest because they didnt finish landmark buildings
i probably shouldnt build the next landmark until next reset
brisk musk
oh hey I hit a 24 on g3 >_>
lunar glen
lol groundbreaking stuff everyday with you
brisk musk
groundbreaking low :S
but honestly, with like only 10 days of data, of course it's not so hard to find something different every other day.
Liz (R15/G4) got 14 of a single mat - highest of this dataset, but not as high as my highest observed.
lunar glen
data is data, even thou it not the most exciting news, althou if that truely lowest, then by my thoery the new lowest maybe from 29-34
brisk musk
they all give even numbers not counting the rare mat, which is fixed.
lunar glen
right, so that 29 not really possible
brisk musk
that's like, the single one undisputable truth. granary does not give odd numbers for regular mats XD
lunar glen
was going with that a landmark give a bonus to the base amount from the granary of 5-10
which, 24 to 29, but that not possible, so ether 28 or 30
winter vapor
Once I'm back at my desk I'll have one more G4 L4 and G4 L5 to give.
brisk musk
yum. moar datas :3
winter vapor
G4 L4
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island stones.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 lumps of island coal.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 chunks of island shale.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 island glimshrooms.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island spectrine.[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island stones.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 sacks of island sand.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 lumps of island coal.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island glimshrooms.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 12 bottles of island effervescent water.
[1:01 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 chunks of island spectrine.
G4 L5
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 sacks of island sand.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 lumps of island coal.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 chunks of island shale.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island glimshrooms.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 14 bottles of island effervescent water.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island spectrine.[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 12 island stones.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 lumps of island coal.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island shale.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 bottles of island effervescent water.
[1:11 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island spectrine.
brisk musk
joke? it's not a joke. data is delicious, even though I'm only mathy enough to grasp the basics. This IS spreadsheet:the game we're playing on our islands.... at least in theory.
winter vapor
FTR: Polar P is now L5 though so I only have G4/L5 data to provide starting tomorrow.
brisk musk
roger that!
winter vapor
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island stones.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 sacks of island sand.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 lumps of island coal.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island glimshrooms.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 bottles of island effervescent water.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island spectrine.[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island stones.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 lumps of island coal.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
[4:10 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 chunks of island spectrine.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 island stones.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 sacks of island sand.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 lumps of island coal.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 chunks of island shale.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island glimshrooms.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island spectrine.[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island stones.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 18 lumps of island coal.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[4:11 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 bottles of island effervescent water.
Courtesy of a friend, this is G4, L4 data:
brisk musk
dayum that 18 tho
also I may just be not awake enough yet but idk what to do with/how to meaningfully incorporate your friend's data
brisk musk
Polar is a nonissue, but his friend's singular one day data I can't figure out what to do with.
also I just realized when adding a few extra lines for the new items, my sum calc didn't adjust correctly soooooooo the numbers have shown wrong >_>
it only really matters for the 24 is reported, that one wasn't in fact a 24 XD
winter vapor
Polar is a nonissue, but his friend's singular one day data I can't figure out w...
Y'know, I WOULDN'T be surprised if their landmarks are even lower than 4 cuz they forgot a logboard click
winter vapor
I'll still ask 'em to confirm
Even though I doubt you can prog to the new area not having finished a building from 6.2.
brisk musk
current project: getting an alt to 15 without upgrading to any of the grade 4 things
my main is r16 and only needs the 5th landmark now (waiting for the week rollover)
winter vapor
@brisk musk
TL;DR: They definitely have 4 landmarks.
Cuz the 6.2/6.3 visions require everything built AND completed via logboard, right?
brisk musk
built, yes, upgraded, no. As proven by kat here never finalizing her granary update XD
but my thing is more, I don't know what I'm supposed to do with your friend's data. the question I'm trying to answer is mainly whether there are softcaps that will distribute item gain more evenly when collecting once a week only. your data (and my main) mostly serve as control/comparison. How much of an impact upgrades and landmarks have is incidental data that we may also need to answer the initial question, but I wouldn't really know how to implement this into my sheet in a way that Silera hasn't already done or done better.
I mean I'm really quite clueless to begin with, I just hope to get enough cohesive data points to show outliers either direction.
heck Mienna threw me the very rough initial template because I couldn't figure out at what end to start.
tl;dr: I don't know how and where to enter that data.
winter vapor
built, yes, upgraded, no. As proven by kat here never finalizing her granary upd...
"Update"
Yeah you don't need max ranks for quests done
You just need something BUILT
e.g., if it's rank 1, it is "built"
If it's mid-upgrade to 2, it is "built"
If Landmark is "still being built and not yet completed", it is NOT "built"
brisk musk
many fancy words for simple thing, yes yes
would be funny to see with how little upgrading you can get away with
but I can't grind the next alt while I'm still gathering like crazy on my existing islands. and then there's also non-island content to do sooooo
lunar glen
but I can't grind the next alt while I'm still gathering like crazy on my existi...
i'll never finish my hunting toon at this rate
also rio getting rocked again
her gains are terrible
brisk musk
I am one with my insanity.
brisk musk
tentative, capital letters. but still. even though I haven't built L5, the two CC4/G4 characters are performing better on average than the three CC3/G3 ones. The only catch is that CC4/G4 is currently doing caves and the other ones anything but caves.
lunar glen
Although, location seem to influence little when it comes to gains
brisk musk
right. just throwing it in because who knows
"I track this little unrelated detail because who knows whether it might matter" XD
and anyway it might still matter to my original question. so there =p
lunar glen
Well, we know it does on that
And if you want to see your 12-12-12 or 16-16
It caverns or mossy mountain
brisk musk
I'll totally take a 18-18 too :3
(throw stuff at the wall, see what sticks. anyway, gathering time)
winter vapor
Ayo got a 2 mats missing.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 lumps of island coal.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 chunks of island shale.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 chunks of island spectrine.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. earns the achievement “But at What Cost III”!
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island stones.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 lumps of island coal.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 chunks of island shale.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[1:05 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 bottles of island effervescent water.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 12 island stones.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 sacks of island sand.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 bottles of island effervescent water.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 chunks of island spectrine.[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island stones.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 lumps of island coal.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 bottles of island effervescent water.
[1:08 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 chunks of island spectrine.
brisk musk
noice
lunar glen
Kat finally got a goated 50 gain
winter vapor
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 14 island stones.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 sacks of island sand.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 lumps of island coal.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 chunks of island shale.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island glimshrooms.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 chunks of island spectrine.[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island stones.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 sacks of island sand.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 lumps of island coal.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 bottles of island effervescent water.
[12:39 p.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 chunks of island spectrine.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 island stones.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 sacks of island sand.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 lumps of island coal.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island shale.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island glimshrooms.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 bottles of island effervescent water.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 chunks of island spectrine.[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island stones.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 sacks of island sand.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 14 lumps of island coal.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 chunks of island shale.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
(also do you need much more data or can I stop at C2 and go back to weekly checks? If you need more that's fine and I'll do it but if you don't I'll go back to weekly)
brisk musk
as you like, really. I have really no clue how much data we need, or if my theory can even be proven or disproven.
winter vapor
If you want more I can get more, idm
brisk musk
if running the same location for a week straight is no trouble to you, I'll happily take it. but don't feel obligated ^^
winter vapor
if running the same location for a week straight is no trouble to you, I'll happ...
That's what I always do
brisk musk
(I mean so do I lol)
but opinions differ greatly on this discord so it's never good to assume XD
brisk musk
remaining data entered for the week (for my charas anyway), upgrades started where applicable, gonna take care of anything beyond that later because eff it I'm not awake.
also imam bayildi is pretty good, at least as far as canned antipasti go XD
lunar glen
I'll probably not do a cycle 7 for kat and rio
I rather start of Tuesday
Last week was a rollercoaster of actually recording data while also trying to rank and follow recs
brisk musk
lol mood, I just got into the habit of pressing printscreen a lot and holding up on upgrades until this morning after collecting.
anyway, time to nap, so I can later find that the postman tried to stuff all my deliveries into the mailbox and made a mess.
limber canopy
So, 5d4*2+10 gets you AWFULLY close to the distribution we saw in 6.3
(For total number of items from a single location in a single day)
The 5 could be "Landmarks +1" in the formula, maybe? In which case our distribution of items for 6.4 would look somethin' like this:
So if you see a 52 items from a single location in a single day, Scream from the rooftops cause that's VERY significant.
lunar glen
i saw a 50 and parrot seen a 52
limber canopy
Well then, that's almost certainly confirmation then
since we didn't have a single day over 46 in the 6.3 data
Neat, we now know how landmarks affect granaries.
Well, "Know"
Have a working hypothesis.
lunar glen
just entered kat and rio new data
they wont have a cycle 7 thou
but they would have likely ended at a weekly gain of 280-300 range
i was debating considering tomorrow c7 of last season and c1 of this season, but that would negate testing if the weekly reset has any influence, what your thought on that
winter vapor
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 12 island stones.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 lumps of island coal.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 chunks of island shale.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island glimshrooms.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 bottles of island effervescent water.[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island stones.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 lumps of island coal.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 chunks of island shale.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 island glimshrooms.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 bottles of island effervescent water.
[11:39 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 chunks of island spectrine.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island stones.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 sacks of island sand.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 lumps of island coal.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 14 chunks of island shale.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island glimshrooms.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 bottles of island effervescent water.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 chunks of island spectrine.[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island stones.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 sacks of island sand.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 lumps of island coal.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 chunks of island shale.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island glimshrooms.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 bottles of island effervescent water.
[11:46 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 chunks of island spectrine.
winter vapor
🙂
lunar glen
Wtf
52/50
48/44
Over here silera saying it something special, and here you are dumping them daily
limber canopy
Which proves that they're NOT something special once you got 5 landmarks.
DEFINITELY need to get another round of data collection.
brisk musk
DEFINITELY need to get another round of data collection.
well I'll keep going with my islands staggered for many weeks until I reach a point where I accept that my initial hypothesis is impossible to prove or disprove XD
I still posit that just based on my alts these two weeks, I would venture a theory that granary level affects regular drop chances too, though not as strongly as landmarks.
limber canopy
How do we want to consolidate our stuff? Keeping our efforts completely seperate seems like it'd make contributors have to do double the work, which isn't great, but I wanna make sure we only get Rank 15 entries and I didn't see that you were keeping track of thata in your existing datset
brisk musk
I do keep track of my rank/cabin/granary/landmark
but my data is ill suited for entry of random contributers' data - I only want weeks lol.
but if all you want is basically the same data in a different entry format, I'd be happy to just type it all out into a second spreadsheet of yours too.
limber canopy
My tools are designed to parse out what you got (or didn't get!) From a copy-paste of the in game log.
brisk musk
My tools are designed to parse out what you got (or didn't get!) From a copy-pas...
well I'm doing weekly datasets on a vanilla client so idk... I'll happily enter my results in triplicate anywhere you like, just gotta tell me where and how.
limber canopy
👍
The Vanilla game log is easy to copy/paste out of (On PC) which is why I do it that way.
But if y'all don't mind me starting up my own effort and directing people to it, then I'll probably get that started today or tomorrow.
brisk musk
It is, but I don't have that info retroactively and it would only generate once per week in my case. I'm at my most efficient working off 2d visuals so I actually go by screenshots for my own.
And why on etheris would we mind you doing data collection? ô.O we can happily share this conversation thread or we can direct people toward yours, we got thiiiiiiiis
limber canopy
You're doing cool stuff, I want to encourage you to do cool stuff, I don't want to potentially make you feel like you're not contributing cause I did a different very similar thing. Communication is important!
But great! I will get my tools updated and get that posted then.
brisk musk
@limber canopy my brain be slow, yo. mind spelling out for me because I didn't see: since I'm collecting weekly and only screenshotting daily, how can I best help you with the data I collect?
oh lol, guess Xur asked the same thing, okeh~
lunar glen
Yea, we have an easy fix
Since we are not collecting rare data, we can assume our rares by the number of cycles since that is fixdd
Anyways Kat and Rio data is trash .for this start up but will be clean data starting today, due to not having L5 until 3-4 days ago
brisk musk
Poor Kat and Rio, they will be loved anyway.
lunar glen
??
brisk musk
I mean if their data is trash.
brisk musk
ah lol
yeah for Silera's purposes, the entire S40 for my characters is useless, and S41 will only have two meaningful datasets.
but this is fine. Maybe my data can be useful, maybe it cannot, it's not like this is putting a crazy strain on me or anything. Compared to my usual shenanigans, spending 10 minutes a day to setup, screenshot, file, organize is hardly bad.
also mmmmmh data :3
lunar glen
It has served a purpose, it was already useful
But now, it shall continue for the discovery of 12-12 -12 and 16-16
lunar glen
And i need to reflect on something when i get the chance
I've noticed low numbers stay low
I wonder if there is a bias
brisk musk
probably needs more data to properly tell
lunar glen
Indefinitely
brisk musk
lol. until the end of time! XD
lunar glen
And only if you consider ~25 low
lunar glen
GP!
I just got an amazing idea
We can siphon off silera data retrieval
We can search via a person name, and then since they are posting, we can see if they are posting daily
And if they are posting daily, we can tell exactly how their week went
And can be another data set
brisk musk
the chances of them doing the same thing consistently for a week straight are low... I mean, if you want to wade through the entire dataset, sure, but that seems a bit much XD
lunar glen
It not via the spreadsheet
It via discord
You can filter by user and channel
Meaning i can single out a player in #1113226187003658321
And if i find someone that posting daily, i can get that week as a data set
brisk musk
I mean, sure, but you're still wading through a sea of data hoping there's 7 days worth of the same destination >_>
if you want to do that, absolutely totally. for me personally, at that point I'd rather finish levelling my alt for another dataset XD
winter vapor
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island stones.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 lumps of island coal.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 chunks of island shale.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 island glimshrooms.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 bottles of island effervescent water.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island spectrine.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island stones.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 sacks of island sand.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 lumps of island coal.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 chunks of island shale.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island glimshrooms.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 10 bottles of island effervescent water.
[9:58 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 chunks of island spectrine.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island stones.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 sacks of island sand.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 14 lumps of island coal.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 chunks of island shale.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island glimshrooms.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 bottles of island effervescent water.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island spectrine.[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island cave shrimp.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 12 island stones.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 lumps of island coal.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island shale.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island glimshrooms.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 bottles of island effervescent water.
[10:05 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 14 chunks of island spectrine.
brisk musk
....you made me triple-check that I didn't have any input errors. 46/44 48/44 no?
brisk musk
soreeee
winter vapor
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island spruce logs.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 pots of island sap.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 bundles of island vine.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island apples.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island logs.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 tufts of island hemp.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 lumps of island resin.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island beehive chips.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island wood opals.[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island hammerheads.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island palm leaves.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island clams.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island lavers.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 pieces of island coral.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island palm logs.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island rock salt.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 islefish.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island squid.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island jellyfish.
[11:08 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island coconuts.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island spruce logs.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island branches.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 sprigs of islewort.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 pots of island sap.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 bundles of island vine.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island logs.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 tufts of island hemp.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 lumps of island resin.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island beehive chips.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island wood opals.[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island hammerheads.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 sacks of island sand.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island clams.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island lavers.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 pieces of island coral.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island palm logs.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island squid.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 island jellyfish.
[11:14 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island coconuts.
winter vapor
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island spruce logs.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island branches.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 sprigs of islewort.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 pots of island sap.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 bundles of island vine.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island logs.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 tufts of island hemp.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 lumps of island resin.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 island beehive chips.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island wood opals.[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island hammerheads.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island palm leaves.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 sacks of island sand.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island clams.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island lavers.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 8 pieces of island coral.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 islefish.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island squid.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island jellyfish.
[4:06 a.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island coconuts.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island spruce logs.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island branches.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 sprigs of islewort.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 pots of island sap.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 bundles of island vine.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island logs.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 tufts of island hemp.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 lumps of island resin.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island beehive chips.[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 5 island hammerheads.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 island palm leaves.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 sacks of island sand.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island clams.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 6 pieces of island coral.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 chunks of island rock salt.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 islefish.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 2 island squid.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 4 island jellyfish.
[4:07 a.m.]Polar P. obtains 8 island coconuts.
brisk musk
roger that!
winter vapor
If you want just the printout I can do that if you prefer.
brisk musk
I very much prefer the screenshots XD
my brain processes them soooooooo much better.
I mean I'll take whatever you throw at me, I just take five times as long to process the text log.
winter vapor
If you don't care for the printout I'll just stop doing that then 
brisk musk
♥
limber canopy
If you don't care for the printout I'll just stop doing that then <:gt:877954507...
Give me the printouts I hate those text files :)
(do whatever works best for you I'm just happy to have the data)
winter vapor
Give me the printouts I hate those text files :)
I'm sorry Silera, are you Glyptomom? 
(I wasn't going to change anything about my posts in #1113226187003658321, don't worry lol)
limber canopy
:)
brisk musk
I'm sorry Silera, are *you* Glyptomom? <:dogkek:879404899866132520>
While that would be useful in many way (oh hai I would be able to actually do the brainy part of research) it would also be rather scary. So I'm sorry to tell you that nope, we're not the same person.
winter vapor
While that would be useful in many way (oh hai I would be able to actually do th...
The joke was I was asking you your preference and Silera's like "keep my thread the same" and it was just kinda weird idk :P
brisk musk
I mean, I got that joke. but apparently my text jokes fall flat.
winter vapor
I mean, I got that joke. but apparently my text jokes fall flat.
I got that with the !
brisk musk
....now the only info I'm missing is, which is Polar F and which is Polar P? XD
winter vapor
....now the only info I'm missing is, which is Polar F and which is Polar P? XD
1st/2nd
brisk musk
I'll take everything all results happily!
brisk musk
(I'm not awake yet)
brisk musk
Note: Polar P is first today if you're keeping track of my data
totally am and appreciated!
winter vapor
FTR the order they were collected in the past was shown with the text readout.
Now that I'm just doing double-pictures, always assume PolarF is first unless otherwise specified
brisk musk
okeh ^^
winter vapor
Heckin', heck. Forgot to upload separately, curse you Discord 😭
(man I didn't even space the two collects on PolarP in #1113226187003658321 either...)
winter vapor
*hands Parrot a cup of tea*
pecks at the strange liquid in the cup
Also wow I was tired when I posted that, just noticed THREE items missing from both.
I also cut off the bottom square, geeeeeez
lunar glen
Also wow I was tired when I posted that, just noticed THREE items missing from b...
You should go and first manually harvest them so they can appear on your Granary retrieval.
brisk musk
this is such a hilarious low blow I don't even
lunar glen
why couldnt this have been useful
brisk musk
why couldnt this have been useful
ooof.
lunar glen
so two days in on only have three mats unlock in a location and they had a range of 8-14
thoughts
brisk musk
so two days in on only have three mats unlock in a location and they had a range...
range of items gained total or range of items per item type? I haven't seen the posts though I think I was part of the initial convo
lunar glen
Totals are consistent with the average
And they are consistent because the individual item gains have been consistently high
brisk musk
right, that's what I expected too. but good to have it confirmed.
it would be amazing if we could test with even less than 3 mats but I don't think that happens at any point XD
lunar glen
That would be your 6th alts task
What am finding interesting, those 3 items haven't broken a individual item gain record
Just uncommonly high
lunar glen
it would be amazing if we could test with even less than 3 mats but I don't thin...
I would need to review locations and see what doesn't have required materials
Even if it a 1/0 granry pull, have only 2 items would be interesting
As you say, am not sure one possible because of how tools work
brisk musk
that, yeah
also I have like a gazillion different projects for a hypothetical 6th island aaaaaargh
and I haven't done much msq progress on her
(and now I feel called out. time to grind)
lunar glen
Lol
You know am been working on a hunting toon for 3 months now
They are barely in HW
Lvled in the 70s but barely making headwind in MSQ
brisk musk
I've been coasting around skalla for a few weeks now >_>
winter vapor
Just one today, alt (PolarP) is going back to weekly for the time being
Also if you want a lot more data, I can push a pin in #💵︱island-chat
brisk musk
mhh nah it's fine for now. I love the data but I don't think I could process large amounts of it ^^;
I swear those numbers tho XD
are you going to screenshot daily on Polar P or just weekly?
winter vapor
are you going to screenshot daily on Polar P or just weekly?
I'd like to stop PolarP if that's cool
If you want a weekly post too (7x), I can do that instead
brisk musk
nah, a weekly post doesn't much help me.
but you aren't obligated to provide any data, I much appreciate your contribution so far ^^
winter vapor
lunar glen
I'd like to stop PolarP if that's cool
yea, it really the day by day we are looking for, but at this point we really just data collecting, and hopeing to one day get the legadary 16-16 or 12-12-12
i somehow derped, and didnt get kat day 3
brisk musk
life happens, I love you all anyway
lunar glen
more then glyptos?
brisk musk
....no. not more than glyptos.
lunar glen
wow, quiting the game
brisk musk
nod nod gotta take a break after a long day, right?
lunar glen
hell no, work day start tomorrow, and with the new 12 hours schdulches, i wont be able to play till after reset and i still need the P#N drops
tonight last chance for my two toons, barely finished kat
brisk musk
oooof in that case, chin up, good luck
GRIND IT ALL OUT!
prospective island owner #6 is currently buying nectarines in ahm araeng
lunar glen
these less then 5 min timers are taking long
lunar glen
am fine, they are pinging, it jsut they get close to 5 mins for my liking
brisk musk
XD
lunar glen
plus the night starting to slow down cuz it getting late
brisk musk
yeah... I don't think I have touched panda this week
lunar glen
is that what people keep calling panda?
also would you like to come along?
rio still need 10,11,12
brisk musk
panda = pandaemonium XD
sure can do, just need to waddle dunya back to the crystarium. on what server?
brisk musk
flying in on ley shen/maduin
winter vapor
winter vapor
brisk musk
thank you for your continued assistance~ ♥
winter vapor
brisk musk
noted! ♥
lunar glen
omg! AM A GOD!
i jsut learn i can hold the alt key and just spam / and enter, to make a shit load of new rows
limber canopy
In... what? Google sheets?
lunar glen
yes
limber canopy
Is there a reason this doesn't work for you?
limber canopy
Aaaaaaah
If you select a whole bunch of rows, you can insert multiple rows at once as well
lunar glen
copying empty cells?
limber canopy
No, like, if you select ten rows on the left,and then right click on them, you'll have the option to "insert 10 rows above"
select 20 rows, and it's insert 20 rows, etc.
lunar glen
ah, but i need a that many emprty rows first, which again at the top
limber canopy
They don't have to be empty.
winter vapor
winter vapor
winter vapor
brisk musk
alt has just unlocked zodiark because irl things needed my attention and now I need sleeeeeeeep
winter vapor
winter vapor
winter vapor
lunar glen
wtf
brisk musk
oh hai nice clean numbers
brisk musk
@limber canopy alt no. 6 is up and running, granaries will be done building in 2 hours so I'll have first results tomorow. no landmark/granaries rank 1, correct? how/where/what data would you like?
limber canopy
Yes to all of that.
I would like daily copy/pasta of whatever you get from said granaries. Send them to explore wherever you'd like, doesn't matter to me.
You can post them here, or DM them to me, or ping me in a public channel, or whatever is most convient to you.
I personally prefer to work with just the text output of what you get, but screenshots are also fine if you'd prefer.
brisk musk
definitely can do, will copypasta here with pings to you then.
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[15:40]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[15:40]You obtain 4 island branches.
[15:40]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[15:40]You obtain 6 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[15:40]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[15:40]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[15:40]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[15:40]You obtain 2 island stones.
[15:40]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[15:40]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[15:40]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[15:40]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
R5/CC2/G1/L0
limber canopy
Hrm, 14 items on both. Interesting.
brisk musk
not enough data, by a mile. but a start. if you need any changes to her down the road, do tell. otherwise I'll keep playing with anything that isn't landmarks or granaries and keep running granaries in gimped mode XD
limber canopy
👍 Please do, I appreciate it.
Not enough data, by a mile, but still makes an amusing chart.
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[15:59]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[15:59]You obtain 2 island branches.
[15:59]You obtain 4 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[15:59]You obtain 6 bundles of island vine.
[15:59]You obtain 2 island apples.
[15:59]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[15:59]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[15:59]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[15:59]You obtain 4 island stones.
[15:59]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[15:59]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[15:59]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
R7/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
Whoops forgot to do yesterday's
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[15:45]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[15:45]You obtain 2 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[15:45]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[15:45]You obtain 4 pots of island sap.
[15:45]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[15:45]You obtain 4 island apples.
[15:45]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[15:45]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[15:45]You obtain 2 island stones.
[15:45]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[15:45]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[15:45]You obtain 4 sacks of island clay.
R7/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:06]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[16:06]You obtain 2 island branches.
[16:06]You obtain 4 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[16:06]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[16:06]You obtain 2 island logs.
[16:06]You obtain 4 tufts of island hemp.
[16:06]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[16:06]You obtain 4 island stones.
[16:06]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[16:06]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[16:06]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[16:06]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[16:06]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[16:06]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
R8/CC3/G1/L0
limber canopy
An 18! that's somethin'!
The main thing I'm hoping to see from this data is what our max/min values are.
Cause, like, if the RNG is just a drop table like I currently think it is, then the range should be the same as it is for higher level granaries. Just from 2-30 instead of 26-58.
But if we see a much smaller/restricted range of numbers all in the 12-18 range, then that means there IS a RNG formula based off of some variable, and that'd be CATASTROPHIC to my understanding of how this all works, because I have no clue how they'd do that while still maintaining the skewed RNG that we have.
But hopefuly we just get confirmation that I know how things work with this data :)
Graph continues to look funny.
brisk musk
I don't really see them doing 2-30 for G1 honestly. 2 would be almost catastrophically low
but I'm not that much of a math person, I just collect ze dataz! XD
(also looks like a bell curve. I like bell curves)
if I can manage to unlock another island or two (but probably not soon >_>) I'll gladly provide comparison data of what +1 landmark or R2 granary looks like, too
but uh, that's definitely... long-term planning here.
also I'll probably poof from july 7th to july 31st but will resume with the data afterwards
winter vapor
Is my data still useful in some way or no?
brisk musk
for me, definitely, though I'll have to admit I don't really expect my data gathering to amount to anything. kinda doesn't look like my hypothesis got any legs to stand on XD
I'll keep documenting my own data, and if you want to I'd be happy to keep tracking yours, but frankly if you'd rather go back to weekly feel totally free. (I don't need the weekly digest data tho)
winter vapor
winter vapor
winter vapor
Bonus: PolarP
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[21:28]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[21:28]You obtain 2 island branches.
[21:28]You obtain 6 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[21:28]You obtain 2 pots of island sap.
[21:28]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[21:28]You obtain 2 island apples.
[21:28]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[21:28]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[21:28]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[21:28]You obtain 4 stalks of island sugarcane.
[21:28]You obtain 4 sacks of island clay.
[21:28]You obtain 6 pinches of island tinsand.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:14]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[16:14]You obtain 2 island apples.
[16:14]You obtain 4 island stones.
[16:14]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[16:14]You obtain 2 island logs.
[16:14]You obtain 4 island cotton bolls.
[16:14]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[16:14]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[16:14]You obtain 4 island branches.
[16:14]You obtain 2 island stones.
[16:14]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[16:14]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
that 10 feels really insulting >_>
limber canopy
But also continues to feed my theories. Yesssss
It's very low chance, given what we know, that we'll see lower than 10. If we get lucky though we'll see an 8 or lower (~1.5% Chance)
brisk musk
I won't even pretend I have any clue.
more dataz tomorrow, and maaaaybe (lol unlikely) I can make myself level another alt
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[18:02]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[18:02]You obtain 2 island apples.
[18:02]You obtain 2 island stones.
[18:02]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[18:02]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[18:02]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[18:02]You obtain 4 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[18:02]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[18:02]You obtain 2 island branches.
[18:02]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[18:02]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[18:02]You obtain 2 chunks of island quartz.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
(there's your 8)
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[11:40]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[11:40]You obtain 4 island apples.
[11:40]You obtain 2 island stones.
[11:40]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[11:40]You obtain 4 island logs.
[11:40]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[11:40]You obtain 2 island branches.
[11:40]You obtain 6 sacks of island sand.
[11:40]You obtain 2 chunks of island quartz.
[11:40]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
R11/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
<@824672884281573426> did ya remove my access?
uh no?
brisk musk
lol okay I was wondering what had happened XD
I haven't input this morning's results yet but eeeeh I skipped the night, I've taken the screenshots I need, can do the actual data entry whenever
winter vapor
brisk musk
also entering that tomorrow. much appreciated as always of course ♥
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:20]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[16:20]You obtain 2 island apples.
[16:20]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[16:20]You obtain 6 island logs.
[16:20]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[16:20]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[16:20]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[16:20]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[16:20]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[16:20]You obtain 6 chunks of island quartz.
[16:20]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R11/CC3/G1/L0
I have no business being awake today when I can't even find my shift key....
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[10:23]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[10:23]You obtain 4 island stones.
[10:23]You obtain 2 island logs.
[10:23]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[10:23]You obtain 6 island popoto sets.
[10:23]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[10:23]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[10:23]You obtain 6 island branches.
[10:23]You obtain 2 island stones.
[10:23]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[10:23]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R11/CC3/G1/L0
limber canopy
Hrmmmm...
THe lack of higher numbers means the range of possible values is lower than anticipated, which means that the range increases as you get more landmarks (or more granary levels, we may test that later)
Which suggests that there IS a formula
Well bugger it all.
What I wouldn't give for an hour alone with the source code
winter vapor
brisk musk
What I wouldn't give for an hour alone with the source code
I would absolutely love to faciliate that but uh, all I can give you is daily granary reports :S
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[14:47]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[14:47]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[14:47]You obtain 6 island popoto sets.
[14:47]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[14:47]You obtain 2 island stones.
[14:47]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[14:47]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[14:47]You obtain 2 chunks of island quartz.
[14:47]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[14:47]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:35]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[16:35]You obtain 2 island apples.
[16:35]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[16:35]You obtain 4 island logs.
[16:35]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[16:35]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[16:35]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[16:35]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[16:35]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[16:35]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[16:35]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
lunar glen
i totally didnt swap kat and rio numbers on C6, and had to use the history feature to get the correct numbers, no why would you even suggest such a thing
winter vapor
brisk musk
i totally didnt swap kat and rio numbers on C6, and had to use the history featu...
are you sure that isn't one of your mammets whispering sweet hateful nothings into your ear?
limber canopy
Wow. We almost have a Perfect normal distribution with your data Glyptomom. If we had a single 20 entry, we'd be perfectly symmeteric.
We honestly have enough data at this point that we can probably guess that the range of possible values is WAY lower (assuming that 20 exists at the same rarity as 8 items, that's a spread of 7 possible values, vs. the 15 we see in 6.4 data)
lunar glen
This is limited to L0? Or would you apply this to L0-5?
limber canopy
Well, I'm gathering L0 data, but I have all my L4 and L5 data to compare it against.
If the total range of RNG Values stayed the same as what we saw in 6.4 (at 15 possible values) Then I'd be able to assume that it's just a drop table with the results multiplied by the number of granaries you have.
But since the range of RNG values is smaller, that brings me back to the dice rolling theory from before, in that adding additional landmarks adds extra dice.
lunar glen
Hmmm
I think am conflating two things, this is for mat gain, not mat distribution, correct?
limber canopy
Like, they COULD just have different drop tables for each level of Granary, but it seems much more likely that there's somem algorithm they're following to generate results.
Oh, yes. Mat distribution is currently assumed to be 100% Random and equally distributed. We have no data in any of the research to suggest otherwise.
lunar glen
Ok, the dice theory through me for a loop
limber canopy
I'm currently only interested in total materials acquired per day per granary.
lunar glen
But make sense if limited to mat gain
limber canopy
Since I have 3 different levels of Landmark data to work with (even with one of those being on the small size) I can start trying to generalize a formula that applies to all 3 data sets.
Like, (1d4+(G+1)d2)*2 gets us the correct range of numbers for all 3 datasets (mostly) but the averages yields are all kinds of wrong for the 6.4 data and that's something we're VERY confident about being between 42 and 43.
If I can get a formula that gives us the proper ranges for what drops we get, AND yields the same average as what we get, then it will be a VERY close match to our data. I'd like it to also match the curve of data that we actually saw, but those %s are the least trustworthy data in our dataset.
AT some point we're going to want to upgrade the granary to Level II and see if that has an affect. If THAT changes how the RNG performs... then we have a 2 variable formula which will be even more interesting.
brisk musk
right, you just tell me when and what to upgrade and I will ^^
and meanwhile I'm levelling another alt but uh, just arrived at fanow and as I mentioned I won't be around most of july probably
brisk musk
that being said, won't a two variable formula make the most sense, strictly speaking? I know the plural of anecdote isn't data, but we got granary rank as well as landmark count, and both G3/L5 (highest observed: 46) and G4/L4 (highest observed: 48) underperform G4/L5 (highest observed: 54, but 50+ is cropping up often enough not to be a total anomaly) in my dataset
with my G3/L5 alt performing as bad as she does I find it unlikely landmark count is the only variable, and neither is granary rank by the same logic.
limber canopy
50-54 is about a 6% chance of happening on any given day, according to my dataset. For G4/L5.
I wasn't aware you had G3/L5 and G4/L4 alt data. Like, I kinda sorta knew you did, but I wasn't thinking about it. I may need to take a look at that and throw some analysis at it, as that could be useful.
brisk musk
by all means definitely do. I intend to keep those two as they are for the time being so they'll keep generating data, but of course they're in my messy spreadsheet format XD
(cause let's face it, I have no clue what I'm doing, but I like doing it anyway)
limber canopy
I like what you're doing very much! Is useful!
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[17:51]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[17:51]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[17:51]You obtain 4 island stones.
[17:51]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[17:51]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[17:51]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[17:51]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[17:51]You obtain 4 island lavers.
[17:51]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[17:51]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[17:51]You obtain 2 islefish.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
daily dose of data :3
winter vapor
Sorry, wasn't paying attention, got annoyed I got DM'd today when people could JUST ASK IN #💵︱island-chat, and collected, so no picture today.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 bundles of island vine.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island logs.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 island cotton bolls.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 island popoto sets.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 lumps of island resin.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island beehive chips.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 5 island hammerheads.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island palm leaves.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 10 sacks of island sand.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island clams.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island lavers.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island palm logs.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 chunks of island rock salt.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 islefish.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 6 island jellyfish.
[12:44 p.m.]Polar F. obtains 4 island coconuts.
brisk musk
all good, I can work with the text too. I still appreciate it ♥
pictures make it a bit faster for me because my brain is just wired that way but this is still perfectly fine.
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[13:23]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[13:23]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[13:23]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[13:23]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[13:23]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[13:23]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
[13:23]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[13:23]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[13:23]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[13:23]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[13:23]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[10:17]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[10:17]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[10:17]You obtain 2 island stones.
[10:17]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[10:17]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[10:17]You obtain 6 stalks of island sugarcane.
[10:17]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[10:17]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[10:17]You obtain 6 sacks of island sand.
[10:17]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[10:17]You obtain 2 islefish.
[10:17]You obtain 2 island squid.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[18:27]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[18:27]You obtain 2 island stones.
[18:27]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[18:27]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[18:27]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
[18:27]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[18:27]You obtain 2 island clams.
[18:27]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[18:27]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[18:27]You obtain 2 island squid.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
(I know I said I wouldn't do this during my vacation but I apparently do XD)
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[19:42]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[19:42]You obtain 2 island stones.
[19:42]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[19:42]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[19:42]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[19:42]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
[19:42]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[19:42]You obtain 6 sacks of island sand.
[19:42]You obtain 2 island clams.
[19:42]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[19:42]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[11:17]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[11:17]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[11:17]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[11:17]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[11:17]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[11:17]You obtain 6 pinches of island tinsand.
[11:17]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[11:17]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[11:17]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[11:17]You obtain 6 islefish.
[11:17]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
lunar glen
Welp
brisk musk
welp?
lunar glen
I forget numbers yesterday
brisk musk
eh, meh, not a worry
I didn't expect to do any tracking whatsoever these three weeks anyway XD
brisk musk
but bf is a total geek and recluse too so there has been plenty times so far for me to actually check in XD also I'm low energy to begin with and it helps to recharge a bit.
staycation more like it, he's visiting me. Munich, Germany =p
brisk musk
...I'm not sure I understand a word
brisk musk
too many acronyms
lunar glen
2?
brisk musk
yeah but neither I could parse =p
lunar glen
Grey parse kick
brisk musk
gaaaaaah ded
lunar glen
i dont kno what i was thinking, i missed two days, not just one
winter vapor
Hopefully I'll remember, gonna upload today's data in the last 6h so I can collect everything I possibly can to prevent Workshop Bugs for this record season
winter vapor
Went to the island for another reason so here ya go a little earlier than expected.
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[23:38]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[23:38]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[23:38]You obtain 6 island stones.
[23:38]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[23:38]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[23:38]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[23:38]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
[23:38]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[23:38]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[23:38]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[23:38]You obtain 4 island lavers.
[23:38]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[23:38]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[21:02]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[21:02]You obtain 2 island stones.
[21:02]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[21:02]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[21:02]You obtain 4 sacks of island clay.
[21:02]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
[21:02]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[21:02]You obtain 2 island branches.
[21:02]You obtain 10 sacks of island sand.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
limber canopy
You've brought back 9 total items on the mountains over time, so you have 9 items unlocked.
You gained 12 items, so it rolled 6 times. It rolled a 1/9 chance 5 times out of 6.
The chances of that happening are practically 0.
It may not be an even distribution of items
brisk musk
I'm not entirely sure I can follow you right now, my pc has been fighting me yesterday and today and I'm still trying to enter the last two days' data >_>
so my brain is in FUCK THAT PC mode
limber canopy
TL;DR: The 2 branches 10 sand result is SUPER suspicious.
brisk musk
it is a bit of a weird one, yes
limber canopy
Like, mathematically unlikely to the point of sub .01% chance of happening
UNLESS, I'm wrong about how stuff is distributed
so I'm probably wrong about that.
brisk musk
just from anecdotally observing I would have said it's uncommon, but not "mark your calendar" uncommon.
but looking at the screenshotted and tracked data, it may just be an extreme outlier
lunar glen
It may not be an even distribution of items
I don't think we have any evidence to say that it evenly contributed, the fact zero days can happen in a row does to the opposite of that, that partly why we started logging daily gains, we searching for that heavy lean 16-16 or 12-12-12
limber canopy
I mean, looking at my prior data, I drew the assumption that it was evenly distributed, as items tended to have a, well, even distribution. No one (on average) got less laver than they did sand, or anything like that. At least, not with any statistical significance.
lunar glen
I mean, looking at my prior data, I drew the assumption that it was evenly distr...
even distribution
5 items missing and resin being 10+
i think the law of averages will make it seem like a even distribution, because there isnt a lean toward any one item (as much as people assume laver appears less often)
but ^that is still vaible to happen regularly
and since PG is doing a extreme of this testing, they are more inclined to get these weird distributions
limber canopy
So, for the 6.4 dataset, we had 973 pieces of data from individual days.
Of those, there were 685 Unique patterns of item distributions, ignoring specific items.
That is to say, if you count the number of things which came back with 0, 2, 4, etc. 2/3rds of the population had a unqiue combination. So the number of people who recieved 3 0s, 2 4s, 3 6s, and 2 8s, were incredibly small.
1 pattern (13421) was repeated 8 times, which is the highest duplication we've seen. So I don't think there are any patterns present in how items are distributed
These are the number of 0's that appeared in a single day for a single granary. Only TWO people were missing 5 items in a single day. Most people were missing only 0 or 1 item.
This aligns more or less with an even distribution method.
While your screenshot (and Glyptomom's data) was really shocking and made me go "Wait, that CAN'T be right!" looking at the data as a whole seems to suggest that these instances are in fact outliers
and "Normal"
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[13:49]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[13:49]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[13:49]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[13:49]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[13:49]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[13:49]You obtain 6 pinches of island tinsand.
[13:49]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[13:49]You obtain 2 island stones.
[13:49]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[13:49]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[13:49]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[13:49]You obtain 2 chunks of island quartz.
[13:49]You obtain 4 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
also agreeing that distribution of items seems to be average-ish allowing for some outliers right from the get-go and that no matter how much I wished it it's probably not a "game levels out individual item type gain for weekly collection" situation
also I want to hit that elusive 20 for dunya already, seems to me it should have the same probability as the 8 and I got that one soooooo
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[11:01]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[11:01]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[11:01]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[11:01]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[11:01]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[11:01]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
[11:01]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[11:01]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[11:01]You obtain 4 slabs of island limestone.
[11:01]You obtain 4 chunks of island quartz.
[11:01]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
[11:01]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R12/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
ughhhhh hit what I presume is the lower boundary/minimum value for G4/L4, a whopping 24 yield >_>
(I mean yay data but feels offensive kinda)
winter vapor
limber canopy
ughhhhh hit what I presume is the lower boundary/minimum value for G4/L4, a whop...
We observed a 20 yield during data gathering in 6.3, although that was G3.
brisk musk
We observed a 20 yield during data gathering in 6.3, although that was G3.
I mean that is very much an ooof, I'm just going by the data I have for G4/L4 for now XD
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:39]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[16:39]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[16:39]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[16:39]You obtain 4 stalks of island sugarcane.
[16:39]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[16:39]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
[16:39]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[16:39]You obtain 2 island branches.
[16:39]You obtain 2 island stones.
[16:39]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[16:39]You obtain 4 chunks of island quartz.
[16:39]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[16:39]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
I also have access to CC4 and the steel hammer now but of course I cannot craft them without the iron hatchet XD
limber canopy
Your sacrifice continues to be appreciated
brisk musk
it's hardly a sacrifice when you're my level of altoholic XD
winter vapor
As a heads up, I will be out of town Aug 3rd - 19th(+?) and I'll be lucky to do my usual IS / Sub content, so I apologize in advance, but I don't know how many posts I'll have til I'm back in town.
brisk musk
all good, I'll track what I get and what I don't get is not a problem ^^
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[15:41]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[15:41]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[15:41]You obtain 2 island stones.
[15:41]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[15:41]You obtain 4 sacks of island clay.
[15:41]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
[15:41]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[15:41]You obtain 2 island branches.
[15:41]You obtain 2 island stones.
[15:41]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[15:41]You obtain 4 chunks of island copper ore.
[15:41]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[15:41]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
[15:41]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[11:55]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[11:55]You obtain 6 sprigs of islewort.
[11:55]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[11:55]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[11:55]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[11:55]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[11:55]You obtain 6 island branches.
[11:55]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[11:55]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[15:04]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[15:04]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[15:04]You obtain 2 island stones.
[15:04]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[15:04]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[15:04]You obtain 4 sacks of island clay.
[15:04]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[15:04]You obtain 2 island branches.
[15:04]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[15:04]You obtain 4 chunks of island copper ore.
[15:04]You obtain 4 chunks of island iron ore.
[15:04]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[21:13]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[21:13]You obtain 2 island branches.
[21:13]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[21:13]You obtain 4 pots of island sap.
[21:13]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[21:13]You obtain 2 island apples.
[21:13]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[21:13]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[21:13]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[21:13]You obtain 4 island lavers.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
that's the second time I've hit a 2-item types yield and a 8-yield respectively. still no 20....
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[0:21]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[0:21]You obtain 4 island branches.
[0:21]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[0:21]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[0:21]You obtain 2 pots of island sap.
[0:21]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[0:21]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[0:21]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[0:21]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[0:21]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[0:21]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[0:21]You obtain 4 island squid.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
lunar glen
@brisk musk hildibrand shows how much SE cares more about coblyns, then any other creature in the game.
glypto get recked
winter vapor
(I mean Coblyns have been in the Hildibrand questline since the very beginning, so)
winter vapor
brisk musk
<@824672884281573426> hildibrand shows how much SE cares more about coblyns, the...
I will excuse you... this once.
@limber canopy
[14:13]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[14:13]You obtain 2 island branches.
[14:13]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[14:13]You obtain 2 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[14:13]You obtain 2 pots of island sap.
[14:13]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[14:13]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[14:13]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[14:13]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[14:13]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[14:13]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[14:13]You obtain 2 islefish.
[14:13]You obtain 4 island squid.
[14:13]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[12:00]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[12:00]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[12:00]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[12:00]You obtain 2 island apples.
[12:00]You obtain 8 tufts of island hemp.
[12:00]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[12:00]You obtain 4 chunks of island rock salt.
[12:00]You obtain 4 islefish.
[12:00]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
winter vapor
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[15:20]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[15:20]You obtain 4 pots of island sap.
[15:20]You obtain 6 island logs.
[15:20]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[15:20]You obtain 4 island lavers.
[15:20]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[15:20]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[15:20]You obtain 6 island squid.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
weird results really are weird.
brisk musk
all good.
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[11:51]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[11:51]You obtain 6 island branches.
[11:51]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[11:51]You obtain 2 island logs.
[11:51]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[11:51]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[11:51]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[11:51]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[11:51]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[11:51]You obtain 2 islefish.
[11:51]You obtain 2 island squid.
[11:51]You obtain 4 island jellyfish.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
limber canopy
Current stats
brisk musk
that really fails to be a nice and even distribution >_>
limber canopy
Yep :(
brisk musk
fwiw I expect to have Island no. 7 up and running the second week of August, so more data. but still ugh.
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[14:38]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[14:38]You obtain 2 island branches.
[14:38]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[14:38]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[14:38]You obtain 2 pots of island sap.
[14:38]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[14:38]You obtain 4 island logs.
[14:38]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[14:38]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[14:38]You obtain 4 island clams.
[14:38]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[14:38]You obtain 4 island squid.
[14:38]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[13:07]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[13:07]You obtain 2 island apples.
[13:07]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[13:07]You obtain 2 island logs.
[13:07]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[13:07]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[13:07]You obtain 4 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[13:07]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[13:07]You obtain 4 island branches.
[13:07]You obtain 1,000 seafarer's cowries.
[13:07]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[13:07]You obtain 2 island apples.
[13:07]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[22:57]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[22:57]You obtain 2 island apples.
[22:57]You obtain 2 island stones.
[22:57]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[22:57]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[22:57]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[22:57]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[22:57]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[22:57]You obtain 2 island branches.
[22:57]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[22:57]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[22:57]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[22:57]You obtain 4 island apples.
[22:57]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
R13/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[22:00]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[22:00]You obtain 2 island apples.
[22:00]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[22:00]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[22:00]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[22:00]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[22:00]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[22:00]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[22:00]You obtain 2 island apples.
[22:00]You obtain 2 island logs.
R14/CC3/G1/L0
houston, we got a 6
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[18:53]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[18:53]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[18:53]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[18:53]You obtain 4 island logs.
[18:53]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[18:53]You obtain 4 island popoto sets.
[18:53]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[18:53]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[18:53]You obtain 2 island branches.
[18:53]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[18:53]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[18:53]You obtain 2 pots of island sap.
[18:53]You obtain 4 island apples.
[18:53]You obtain 2 island logs.
R14/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy not sure if this is useful, I had a very busy weekend so didn't get to harvest yesterday - two days of data in one harvest for completion's sake.
[11:18]You obtain 4 stalks of island alyssum.
[11:18]You obtain 4 island apples.
[11:18]You obtain 6 island stones.
[11:18]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[11:18]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[11:18]You obtain 2 island logs.
[11:18]You obtain 4 island cotton bolls.
[11:18]You obtain 8 island popoto sets.
[11:18]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[11:18]You obtain 4 island spruce logs.
[11:18]You obtain 4 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[11:18]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[11:18]You obtain 8 pots of island sap.
[11:18]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[11:18]You obtain 6 island apples.
[11:18]You obtain 6 tufts of island hemp.
R14/CC3/G1/L0
limber canopy
<@157155318047047680> not sure if this is useful, I had a very busy weekend so ...
Not useful for the specific hypothesis I'm testing, but still useful For determining overall averages
Glad to have it for sure!
brisk musk
I'll be back to reliable daily data tomorrow and getting island no. 7 up asap... alt is currently at palaka's stand >_>
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[18:22]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[18:22]You obtain 4 island apples.
[18:22]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[18:22]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[18:22]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[18:22]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[18:22]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[18:22]You obtain 2 island branches.
[18:22]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[18:22]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[18:22]You obtain 2 island logs.
[18:22]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
R14/CC3/G1/L0
I also picked up the island unlock quest for no. 7 so gonna start setting that up today probably - any preferred testing parameters?
(and/or do we move on Dunya to either L1 or G2 and set the new one to G1/L0?)
limber canopy
Stick with L0 and go G2 (or even G3 if you're feelin' spicy) And lets see what that difference looks like, if you're okay with that
brisk musk
Sure thing, that's why I'm asking ^^ my alts are essentially sandboxes to me XD
(probably gonna shift Dunya to G2 then once I got Riri's granaries built)
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[21:35]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[21:35]You obtain 6 island apples.
[21:35]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[21:35]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[21:35]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[21:35]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[21:35]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[21:35]You obtain 3 raw island garnets.
[21:35]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[21:35]You obtain 2 island stones.
[21:35]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[21:35]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[21:35]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[21:35]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
R14/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[21:40]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[21:40]You obtain 4 island branches.
[21:40]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[21:40]You obtain 4 pots of island sap.
[21:40]You obtain 2 island logs.
[21:40]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[21:40]You obtain 2 island stones.
[21:40]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[21:40]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[21:40]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[21:40]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
R5/CC2/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[17:19]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[17:19]You obtain 2 island apples.
[17:19]You obtain 2 island stones.
[17:19]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[17:19]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[17:19]You obtain 4 island cotton bolls.
[17:19]You obtain 4 island popoto sets.
[17:19]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[17:19]You obtain 3 raw island garnets.
[17:19]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[17:19]You obtain 2 island stones.
[17:19]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[17:19]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[17:19]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[17:19]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
R14/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[17:25]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[17:25]You obtain 4 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[17:25]You obtain 2 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[17:25]You obtain 4 pots of island sap.
[17:25]You obtain 6 island apples.
[17:25]You obtain 2 island logs.
[17:25]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[17:25]You obtain 2 island stones.
[17:25]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[17:25]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
R5/CC2/G1/L0
limber canopy
Okay, worked through the backlog.
6 items makes me very unhappy, but is very good to see. It means we have a new floor
(Why no 20 items!?!??!?)
Also we're already at 2 18s at G2, so G2 having higher yields than G1 is looking preeeetty possible
obviously need more data, but we'll see.
I also reworked my data collection sheet to parse things smarter so that'll help.
brisk musk
amusingly enough, I found the 6 items to make me very happy, because new record! I was expecting a 20 and got a 6 instead - I'll take it.
feelycraft (lol) of the received items also makes me expect yields for G2 will be higher. My next project is totally another alt so I can provide comparison data for G1/L1 and later G1/L2 etc
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[19:04]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[19:04]You obtain 4 island apples.
[19:04]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[19:04]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[19:04]You obtain 4 island logs.
[19:04]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[19:04]You obtain 4 island popoto sets.
[19:04]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[19:04]You obtain 3 raw island garnets.
[19:04]You obtain 4 island stones.
[19:04]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[19:04]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[19:04]You obtain 4 stalks of island sugarcane.
[19:04]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
R14/CC3/G2/L0
there's that 20 on G2 - pretty safe to say upgrading granaries ups the normal mat yield, yup.
@limber canopy
[19:08]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[19:08]You obtain 2 island branches.
[19:08]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[19:08]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[19:08]You obtain 6 island apples.
[19:08]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[19:08]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[19:08]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[19:08]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[19:08]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[19:08]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
R5/CC2/G1/L0
limber canopy
WHY HELLO THERE!
Talkin' bout Baulders gate with some folks, Mentioned shitty ways to generate ability scores (4d6, drop lowest) and SUDDENLY My brain went "Island Sanctuary?"
And lo and behold.
We have an algorithm that generates the correct curve.
well, it's in the right shape. Still need to figure out some variables to see how it changes as granaries/landmarks are added
but.... I GOT IT! I fuckin' solved the unsolvable.
All this time I'm thinkin' I needed to find a real mathmatician/statistician to solve my problem, when in reality all I needed was to find a D&D Nerd.
brisk musk
FUCKING HINDSIGHT
(but yeah looking at those bars and reading "character stats" makes brain go, well d'uh?)
lunar glen
All this time I'm thinkin' I needed to find a real mathmatician/statistician to ...
.... Same thing?
brisk musk
(the question is - what's the modifier for granary rank and landmark count though? =p)
(and what stat do my granary rolls end up being?)
limber canopy
That's what I'm figurin' out.
This is what I've got thus far. These match what we're seeing the best thus far (there may be other curves that match, I may need to expiriment some more) Top one is your data (0landmark 1granary level) And then 6.4 data and 6.2/3 data.
But from 3-7 is an increase of 4, and from 0 to 6 is an increase of 6. We go up 3 granary levels, and 5 landmark levels, so.... I'm 1 number short.
brisk musk
Have you considered we might be rolling actual d6s and rounding rather than d3*2?
@limber canopy
[17:47]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[17:47]You obtain 6 island apples.
[17:47]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[17:47]You obtain 6 bundles of island vine.
[17:47]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[17:47]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[17:47]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[17:47]You obtain 3 raw island garnets.
[17:47]You obtain 6 sacks of island sand.
[17:47]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[17:47]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[17:47]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
R14/CC3/G2/L0
(yes I know we're talking right now, I'm just making sure you'll be able to find the post later lol)
@limber canopy
[17:51]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[17:51]You obtain 4 island branches.
[17:51]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[17:51]You obtain 2 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[17:51]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[17:51]You obtain 2 island apples.
[17:51]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[17:51]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[17:51]You obtain 8 island palm logs.
[17:51]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[17:51]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[17:51]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
R6/CC2/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[19:34]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[19:34]You obtain 4 island stones.
[19:34]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[19:34]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[19:34]You obtain 2 island logs.
[19:34]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[19:34]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[19:34]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[19:34]You obtain 3 raw island garnets.
[19:34]You obtain 2 island stones.
[19:34]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[19:34]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[19:34]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[19:34]You obtain 4 sacks of island clay.
R14/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[19:37]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[19:37]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[19:37]You obtain 2 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[19:37]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[19:37]You obtain 2 island apples.
[19:37]You obtain 4 island logs.
[19:37]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[19:37]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[19:37]You obtain 2 island stones.
[19:37]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[19:37]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[19:37]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[19:37]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[19:37]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
R7/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[18:40]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[18:40]You obtain 2 island stones.
[18:40]You obtain 8 sprigs of islewort.
[18:40]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[18:40]You obtain 2 island logs.
[18:40]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[18:40]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[18:40]You obtain 3 raw island garnets.
[18:40]You obtain 4 island stones.
[18:40]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[18:40]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[18:40]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[18:40]You obtain 8 stalks of island sugarcane.
R14/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[18:43]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[18:43]You obtain 4 island branches.
[18:43]You obtain 4 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[18:43]You obtain 2 island apples.
[18:43]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[18:43]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[18:43]You obtain 2 island stones.
[18:43]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[18:43]You obtain 6 stalks of island sugarcane.
R8/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:30]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[16:30]You obtain 2 island stones.
[16:30]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[16:30]You obtain 4 island logs.
[16:30]You obtain 4 island cotton bolls.
[16:30]You obtain 6 island popoto sets.
[16:30]You obtain 3 raw island garnets.
[16:30]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[16:30]You obtain 6 stalks of island sugarcane.
[16:30]You obtain 4 sacks of island clay.
[16:30]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[16:44]You obtain 2 island spruce logs.
[16:44]You obtain 2 island branches.
[16:44]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[16:44]You obtain 2 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[16:44]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[16:44]You obtain 2 pots of island sap.
[16:44]You obtain 2 island apples.
[16:44]You obtain 4 island logs.
[16:44]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[16:44]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[16:44]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[16:44]You obtain 4 stalks of island sugarcane.
[16:44]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
R8/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[15:56]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[15:56]You obtain 6 island palm leaves.
[15:56]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[15:56]You obtain 2 island clams.
[15:56]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[15:56]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[15:56]You obtain 4 island squid.
[15:56]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[15:56]You obtain 2 island stones.
[15:56]You obtain 6 chunks of island copper ore.
[15:56]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[15:56]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[15:56]You obtain 4 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[15:58]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[15:58]You obtain 2 island apples.
[15:58]You obtain 2 island stones.
[15:58]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[15:58]You obtain 2 island logs.
[15:58]You obtain 4 island popoto sets.
[15:58]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[15:58]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[15:58]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[15:58]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[15:58]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[15:58]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[15:58]You obtain 2 islefish.
[15:58]You obtain 2 island squid.
[15:58]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R8/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:08]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[16:08]You obtain 2 island apples.
[16:08]You obtain 4 island stones.
[16:08]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[16:08]You obtain 6 island logs.
[16:08]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[16:08]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[16:08]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[16:08]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[16:08]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[16:08]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[16:08]You obtain 2 islefish.
[16:08]You obtain 2 island squid.
R8/CC3/G1/L0
(posting G1 first this time, careful)
limber canopy
My spreadsheet handles it all automagically :)
limber canopy
I mean, I'm using the R8/CC3/G1/L0 Lines, it parses those out and figures out which level granary/landmarks you're giving me.
and treats them accordingly
So please keep using that format
brisk musk
aaaaah XD
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:27]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[16:27]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[16:27]You obtain 2 island clams.
[16:27]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[16:27]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[16:27]You obtain 2 islefish.
[16:27]You obtain 2 island squid.
[16:27]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
[16:27]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[16:27]You obtain 2 island branches.
[16:27]You obtain 2 island stones.
[16:27]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[16:27]You obtain 4 chunks of island copper ore.
[16:27]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[16:27]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[16:27]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[14:52]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[14:52]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[14:52]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[14:52]You obtain 6 island lavers.
[14:52]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[14:52]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[14:52]You obtain 2 islefish.
[14:52]You obtain 2 island squid.
[14:52]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[14:52]You obtain 2 island branches.
[14:52]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[14:52]You obtain 4 slabs of island limestone.
[14:52]You obtain 2 chunks of island quartz.
[14:52]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[14:58]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[14:58]You obtain 4 island apples.
[14:58]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[14:58]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island clams.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[14:58]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[14:58]You obtain 6 island squid.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
the mammets ate all the apples.
brisk musk
oh hay I just noticed that's a 24 on today's G2/L0
(I was out all day, only just now getting around to filling in the spreadsheet...)
limber canopy
Hell yea!
(I also wasn't paying attention)
Now the question is whether we can still get a 6 on G2
brisk musk
I doubt it, but only data will tell.
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[21:49]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[21:49]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[21:49]You obtain 2 island clams.
[21:49]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[21:49]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[21:49]You obtain 6 chunks of island rock salt.
[21:49]You obtain 4 island squid.
[21:49]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[21:49]You obtain 4 island branches.
[21:49]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[21:49]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[21:49]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[21:49]You obtain 8 chunks of island iron ore.
[21:49]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[21:49]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
another 24.
@limber canopy
[21:53]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[21:53]You obtain 2 island stones.
[21:53]You obtain 2 island logs.
[21:53]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[21:53]You obtain 4 island popoto sets.
[21:53]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[21:53]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[21:53]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[21:53]You obtain 2 island clams.
[21:53]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[21:53]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[21:53]You obtain 2 islefish.
[21:53]You obtain 2 island squid.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[17:45]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[17:45]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[17:45]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[17:45]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[17:45]You obtain 2 islefish.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
[17:45]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island stones.
[17:45]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[17:45]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[17:45]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[17:45]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[17:45]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
[17:45]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[17:48]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[17:48]You obtain 4 island apples.
[17:48]You obtain 2 island stones.
[17:48]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[17:48]You obtain 4 island logs.
[17:48]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[17:48]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[17:48]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[17:48]You obtain 2 island clams.
[17:48]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[17:48]You obtain 2 islefish.
[17:48]You obtain 4 island squid.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[14:51]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[14:51]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[14:51]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[14:51]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[14:51]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[14:51]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[14:51]You obtain 2 islefish.
[14:51]You obtain 2 island squid.
[14:51]You obtain 6 island jellyfish.
[14:51]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[14:51]You obtain 4 slabs of island limestone.
[14:51]You obtain 6 chunks of island quartz.
[14:51]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[14:51]You obtain 4 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[14:54]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[14:54]You obtain 2 island apples.
[14:54]You obtain 4 island stones.
[14:54]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[14:54]You obtain 2 island logs.
[14:54]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[14:54]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[14:54]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[14:54]You obtain 2 islefish.
[14:54]You obtain 4 island squid.
[14:54]You obtain 4 island jellyfish.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[23:17]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[23:17]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[23:17]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[23:17]You obtain 2 island clams.
[23:17]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[23:17]You obtain 4 islefish.
[23:17]You obtain 2 island squid.
[23:17]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[23:17]You obtain 2 island branches.
[23:17]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[23:17]You obtain 6 slabs of island limestone.
[23:17]You obtain 6 chunks of island iron ore.
[23:17]You obtain 4 chunks of island quartz.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[23:31]You obtain 2 stalks of island alyssum.
[23:31]You obtain 2 island apples.
[23:31]You obtain 2 island stones.
[23:31]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[23:31]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[23:31]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[23:31]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[23:31]You obtain 2 island clams.
[23:31]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[23:31]You obtain 4 island squid.
[23:31]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[17:37]You obtain 3 island spruce logs.
[17:37]You obtain 2 island branches.
[17:37]You obtain 4 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[17:37]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[17:37]You obtain 2 pots of island sap.
[17:37]You obtain 2 island apples.
[17:37]You obtain 2 island logs.
[17:37]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[17:37]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[17:37]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[17:37]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[17:37]You obtain 2 island clams.
[17:37]You obtain 6 pieces of island coral.
[17:37]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[17:37]You obtain 2 island squid.
[17:37]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[17:41]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[17:41]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[17:41]You obtain 4 stalks of island sugarcane.
[17:41]You obtain 4 sacks of island clay.
[17:41]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[17:41]You obtain 2 island branches.
[17:41]You obtain 4 island stones.
[17:41]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[17:41]You obtain 2 chunks of island quartz.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
do Glypto have a mind control parasite like cats do
....feed me.....
...wait what?
lunar glen
but i already ate
and one of the items was barely moldy bread and i fear am gonna die
lunar glen
fun fact
there is 1.7k people frozen waiting to be revived when tech allows it
with 100k in a waiting list
i think 700 of them are heads in jars
and those are basically waiting for body reconstruction technology
so people already challenging the inevitable
the issue I have with it, the mental stain of eternity
brisk musk
they are "challenging" it by huffing pure hopium.
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[18:53]You obtain 3 island spruce logs.
[18:53]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[18:53]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[18:53]You obtain 2 island logs.
[18:53]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[18:53]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[18:53]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[18:53]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[18:53]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[18:53]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[18:53]You obtain 4 islefish.
[18:53]You obtain 4 island squid.
[18:53]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[18:59]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[18:59]You obtain 4 island stones.
[18:59]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[18:59]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[18:59]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[18:59]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
[18:59]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[18:59]You obtain 4 island branches.
[18:59]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[18:59]You obtain 4 chunks of island copper ore.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[12:53]You obtain 3 island spruce logs.
[12:53]You obtain 6 island branches.
[12:53]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[12:53]You obtain 6 pots of island sap.
[12:53]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[12:53]You obtain 2 island apples.
[12:53]You obtain 2 island logs.
[12:53]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[12:53]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[12:53]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[12:53]You obtain 6 pieces of island coral.
[12:53]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[12:53]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[12:53]You obtain 2 islefish.
[12:53]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[12:57]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[12:57]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[12:57]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[12:57]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[12:57]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[12:57]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[12:57]You obtain 2 island branches.
[12:57]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[12:57]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[12:57]You obtain 4 chunks of island iron ore.
R9/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
random musings: that 10 I got on G2/L0 yesterday is the lowest I expect to see on G2/L0, I very much doubt 6 or even 8 is gonna happen. Does your current formula allow for 26 in G2/L0 and 20 in G1/L0? (because I'm wondering if those exist....)
limber canopy
I have not yet formulated a new formula for this new data
I got no clue.
The things I want to know between G1 and G2 is whether or not the floor increases (So whether it goes from 6 minimum to 8 minimum) and whether or not the range increases. So 6 was our old lowest and 10 is our new lowest. so if 118 was our old highest, that would make 22 our new highest, assuming the range stays the same and G2 is just a flat +4 bonus to yield.
If we get a 24 (Which we may already have gotten I wasn't paying attention) Then that means the range increases and leveling up the granary adds another "Die" so to speak.
Current stats
So yea, absolutely got a 24, so the range of possible valid values increased
brisk musk
24 happened not just once but multiple times, which is why my guess was that there exists a 20 for G1/L0 and we just haven't seen it XD
either that or dice
but at higher ranks+landmarks we also have a much higher range so a flat increase is idk....
unless that range is all on the landmarks? but I doubt it.
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[15:30]You obtain 3 island spruce logs.
[15:30]You obtain 2 island branches.
[15:30]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[15:30]You obtain 2 pots of island sap.
[15:30]You obtain 6 island apples.
[15:30]You obtain 2 tufts of island hemp.
[15:30]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[15:30]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[15:30]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[15:30]You obtain 4 island lavers.
[15:30]You obtain 4 islefish.
[15:30]You obtain 2 island squid.
[15:30]You obtain 4 island jellyfish.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[15:32]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[15:32]You obtain 6 sprigs of islewort.
[15:32]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[15:32]You obtain 2 stalks of island sugarcane.
[15:32]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[15:32]You obtain 4 pinches of island tinsand.
[15:32]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[15:32]You obtain 2 island branches.
[15:32]You obtain 2 island stones.
[15:32]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[15:32]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[15:32]You obtain 4 chunks of island iron ore.
[15:32]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[15:32]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[13:11]You obtain 3 island spruce logs.
[13:11]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[13:11]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[13:11]You obtain 4 island apples.
[13:11]You obtain 4 island logs.
[13:11]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[13:11]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[13:11]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[13:11]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[13:11]You obtain 4 chunks of island rock salt.
[13:11]You obtain 4 islefish.
[13:11]You obtain 6 island jellyfish.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[13:14]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[13:14]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[13:14]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[13:14]You obtain 4 stalks of island sugarcane.
[13:14]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
[13:14]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[13:14]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[13:14]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[13:14]You obtain 4 chunks of island quartz.
[13:14]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
[13:14]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[14:58]You obtain 3 island spruce logs.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island branches.
[14:58]You obtain 2 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[14:58]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[14:58]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island apples.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island logs.
[14:58]You obtain 4 tufts of island hemp.
[14:58]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[14:58]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island clams.
[14:58]You obtain 6 island lavers.
[14:58]You obtain 6 island palm logs.
[14:58]You obtain 2 island squid.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[15:00]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[15:00]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[15:00]You obtain 4 stalks of island sugarcane.
[15:00]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
[15:00]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[15:00]You obtain 2 island branches.
[15:00]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[15:00]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[15:00]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[15:00]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
[15:00]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[17:45]You obtain 3 island spruce logs.
[17:45]You obtain 2 bags of island pumpkin seeds.
[17:45]You obtain 4 bags of island cabbage seeds.
[17:45]You obtain 6 pots of island sap.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island apples.
[17:45]You obtain 4 island logs.
[17:45]You obtain 4 tufts of island hemp.
[17:45]You obtain 3 island hammerheads.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[17:45]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[17:45]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[17:45]You obtain 2 islefish.
[17:45]You obtain 2 island squid.
[17:45]You obtain 4 island jellyfish.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[18:01]You obtain 2 raw island garnets.
[18:01]You obtain 2 island palm leaves.
[18:01]You obtain 4 sprigs of islewort.
[18:01]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[18:01]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[18:01]You obtain 2 sacks of island clay.
[18:01]You obtain 2 pinches of island tinsand.
[18:01]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[18:01]You obtain 2 island stones.
[18:01]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[18:01]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[13:25]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[13:25]You obtain 6 island apples.
[13:25]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[13:25]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[13:25]You obtain 6 island logs.
[13:25]You obtain 4 island cotton bolls.
[13:25]You obtain 2 island popoto sets.
[13:25]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[13:25]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[13:25]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[13:25]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[13:25]You obtain 6 chunks of island leucogranite.
[13:25]You obtain 6 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[13:27]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[13:27]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[13:27]You obtain 4 island palm logs.
[13:27]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[13:27]You obtain 2 island squid.
[13:27]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
[13:27]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[13:27]You obtain 2 island stones.
[13:27]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[13:27]You obtain 6 chunks of island iron ore.
[13:27]You obtain 4 chunks of island quartz.
[13:27]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[18:46]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[18:46]You obtain 4 island stones.
[18:46]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[18:46]You obtain 4 bundles of island vine.
[18:46]You obtain 6 island popoto sets.
[18:46]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[18:46]You obtain 4 island stones.
[18:46]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[18:46]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[18:46]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[18:46]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
[18:46]You obtain 4 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[18:49]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[18:49]You obtain 4 island palm leaves.
[18:49]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[18:49]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[18:49]You obtain 2 island jellyfish.
[18:49]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[18:49]You obtain 2 island branches.
[18:49]You obtain 4 chunks of island copper ore.
[18:49]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[18:49]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
[18:49]You obtain 4 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[10:46]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[10:46]You obtain 6 island apples.
[10:46]You obtain 2 island stones.
[10:46]You obtain 2 bundles of island vine.
[10:46]You obtain 2 island logs.
[10:46]You obtain 6 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[10:46]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[10:46]You obtain 2 island branches.
[10:46]You obtain 6 island stones.
[10:46]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[10:46]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[10:46]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[10:46]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[10:48]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[10:48]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[10:48]You obtain 4 pieces of island coral.
[10:48]You obtain 2 island palm logs.
[10:48]You obtain 2 chunks of island rock salt.
[10:48]You obtain 2 islefish.
[10:48]You obtain 2 island squid.
[10:48]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[10:48]You obtain 2 island stones.
[10:48]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[10:48]You obtain 4 chunks of island copper ore.
[10:48]You obtain 4 chunks of island leucogranite.
[10:48]You obtain 4 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[13:41]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[13:41]You obtain 6 island apples.
[13:41]You obtain 2 island stones.
[13:41]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[13:41]You obtain 2 island logs.
[13:41]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[13:41]You obtain 2 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[13:41]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[13:41]You obtain 2 island stones.
[13:41]You obtain 6 sacks of island sand.
[13:41]You obtain 2 chunks of island copper ore.
[13:41]You obtain 2 slabs of island limestone.
[13:41]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[13:41]You obtain 4 chunks of island quartz.
R15/CC3/G2/L0
@limber canopy
[13:44]You obtain 2 island hammerheads.
[13:44]You obtain 2 island lavers.
[13:44]You obtain 2 pieces of island coral.
[13:44]You obtain 4 chunks of island rock salt.
[13:44]You obtain 2 chunks of island silver ore.
[13:44]You obtain 2 island branches.
[13:44]You obtain 4 island stones.
[13:44]You obtain 2 sacks of island sand.
[13:44]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
[13:44]You obtain 2 bunches of multicolored isleblooms.
R10/CC3/G1/L0
brisk musk
@limber canopy
[16:30]You obtain 3 stalks of island alyssum.
[16:30]You obtain 2 island apples.
[16:30]You obtain 4 island stones.
[16:30]You obtain 2 sprigs of islewort.
[16:30]You obtain 2 island logs.
[16:30]You obtain 2 island cotton bolls.
[16:30]You obtain 4 bags of island parsnip seeds.
[16:30]You obtain 3 chunks of island silver ore.
[16:30]You obtain 2 island branches.
[16:30]You obtain 8 island stones.
[16:30]You obtain 4 sacks of island sand.
[16:30]You obtain 2 chunks of island iron ore.
[16:30]You obtain 4 chunks of island quartz.
[16:30]You obtain 2 chunks of island leucogranite.
R16/CC3/G2/L0