hopefully not just the wrong season total part... 🙏
#6.3 Incorrect Cowrie Investigation
zenith agate
Rowde's is in the same bug forum!
so that gives me hope it's NOT just the previous season total!
woeful beacon
oh snap!
ocean bough
eyyy
zenith agate
Who DOES that
it directly replaced/removed the original message too so I thought it was just bugged and notifying me of something I had already read at first 😂
so I almost didn't read it at all
luckily rowde's bug report would have been noticed by someone here soon enough though so we'd still know eventually
but...yea, guess I don't need to leave my cotton ball count at "exactly enough" this week for more proof. yay!
iron slate
I'm gonna laugh when it's the amount
For previous season
And not the actual cowries and groove and the fact that it's NOT. CRAFTING...
zenith agate
did rowde also get a wrong previous season?
hopefully it's not that
looks like "some of the time" if I"m reading it correctly so...maybe, but hopefully not X_X
woeful beacon
i feel like there's multiple bugs lul
honestly no idea what y'all are refering to by "previous season"
i personally only became aware of something being off after the 4th workshop was added in 6.4 because i started getting low on multiple items on my alts that i used to be able to cover just fine with the 2 granaries and 3 workshops
so i was trying to do minimal gathering on things like laver, tinsand, sap, cotton, hemp and then finally noticed that my characters were getting variable amounts of cowries
even with the data that i provided the character that was at 0 surplus/deficit and did the c7 check still got slightly less cowries than the +1 and +5 surplus characters
and I assume that variance will increase further if there are multiple items at 0 surplus/deficit too
then seemingly on top of that there's the tracking over weekly reset problem as well where it is registering a higher amount of cowries earned but then actually paying out significantly less
zenith agate
i feel like there's multiple bugs lul
honestly no idea what y'all are refering t...
you can see my report's screenshots if you want to see what I mean, but basically here were the numbers from my report:
Earnings Page Screenshots + Final Payout: 38350
"Previous Season" report: 38518
Other players with the same Agenda: 38861
Three different numbers. the "previous season" report should match the actual cowries gained, but does not. And they should both be the correct amount, the third number, but aren't.
two different bugs. or maybe more under the hood, who knows.
woeful beacon
so this?
zenith agate
in your examples I think sometimes you got both bugs, and sometimes you didn't.
woeful beacon
'earnings report registered' is 'previous season'
woeful beacon
in your examples I think sometimes you got both bugs, and sometimes you didn't.
yah
which seems to be an error with tracking over weekly reset boundary
zenith agate
and the "previous season" report is relevant because it's the less impactful of the two, but also is one they've tried to fix before and failed and so...we're worried that they may only focus on THAT aspect and not the "not matching what it SHOULD earn" aspect
woeful beacon
ahh
zenith agate
under "resolved issues" for 6.4: "An issue in island sanctuary wherein the earnings listed for the previous season differed from the earnings received."
rancid dock
and the "previous season" report is relevant because it's the less impactful of ...
Oh? This wasn't resolved or are we saying that they actually made it worth with the current versions of the bug
Like actual crowies loss instead of bad reports
zenith agate
well it doesn't LOOK very resolved
rancid dock
It doesn't look resolved because now something worse is happening lol
zenith agate
maybe it was a different bug that caused a similar problem though yea lol
narrow tangle
No one happened to take screenshots last week, did they? It’d be really helpful to know what went wrong with my math.
ocean bough
i haven't taken any in a while, no. when i get back to my comp i can ping the other people from today
tall fox
screenshots of what, the daily earnings?
tall fox
No one happened to take screenshots last week, did they? It’d be really helpful ...
Is this for that off-by-one issue or something else?
narrow tangle
The fact that everyone apparently made >1k less than promised this week
tall fox
ah, I hadn't looked at earnings report
narrow tangle
What off by one issue?
rancid dock
a couple weeks ago, people were off by one crowie
tall fox
a week or two ago there was that rounding issue?
narrow tangle
Oh
rancid dock
yea, that new math
tall fox
I hadn't heard about this new one so I had no idea
narrow tangle
That was like 4 weeks ago and I fixed it
I wonder if something actually got classified as the wrong peak. If my permissive peak detection was actually wrong.
That scares me but also would explain wtf was wrong, but having a day by day breakdown would be incredibly helpful
tall fox
sadly I don't, I've only really been hit by the cowrie bugs once ever so I don't usually take the daily shots
rancid dock
might wanna publically ask for it, buut if no one in here did it, it kindof a long shot
well, more publically then this
tall fox
just to confirm, the number others are seeing is 33699?
stoic veldt
Yes
narrow tangle
That’s excellent. Basically my 3 theories are:
- history is not being set correctly (seems like a big difference for that but idk)
- groove is not being set correctly (entirely possible, since the last-3-days code is very complicated and it’s possible last week went through a part of it we just haven’t used before)
- peaks weren’t set correctly (possible but v scary, less likely if FT was correct since it’d have to be something main recs used but FT did not )
autumn vault
To throw another wrench into the mix
I'm seeing 33649
Which isn't far from everyone else, but it is another 50 off
iron slate
just to confirm, the number others are seeing is 33699?
+1 for 33699
autumn vault
That could easily be a slightly mis-entered craft
I'd like to say not possible, but I could definitely have screwed up entering the crafts, and I am human. I do double check everything though so I wouldn't have thought so... 🤷♂️
iron slate
did you do any #🚽︱bot-spam /alts for a day?
autumn vault
No
stoic veldt
Islefish pie wasn't used in FT, nor was squid ink
autumn vault
Either way, unless there are others that are also off by the same amount, not worth chasing after just my amount when more people are reporting 33699
narrow tangle
Yeah, the problem is that no one got the amount promised
autumn vault
Yup, that would be the main issue
narrow tangle
And we don’t know which days were wrong and that kills me
Pie is a good place to start though
Except for me needing to get on an airplane today
iron slate
Yeah, the problem is that _no one_ got the amount promised
Can't wait til this is yet another bug of epic proportions 
My BLU static runs late on Mondays, I'll try to see if I can get a full breakdown of the entire season
stoic veldt
Islefish pie wasn't used in FT, nor was squid ink
Imam Bayildi and Pumpkin Pudding were also in main recs and not FT. I think that's everything...
zenith agate
I had to run a /today last season instead of rest so I didn’t bother with screenshots.
Sorry :/
narrow tangle
Good news! My simpler calculator got 33699, so the problem is with the bot, not with the data or the concept of math
And, critically, I now have correct totals
stoic veldt
Now you just have to see where they differ?
narrow tangle
Yeah
Idk where to put this
I'm putting it here
Cycle 2 total, 0 groove: 6036. Starting groove 0: 6036, net 5582.
Cycle 4 total, 0 groove: 5873. Starting groove 13: 6569, net 6185.
Cycle 5 total, 0 groove: 6050. Starting groove 30: 7726, net 7314.
Cycle 6 total, 0 groove: 4928. Starting groove 45: 6708, net 6292.
Cycle 7 total, 0 groove: 4909. Starting groove 45: 6660, net 6316.
Average cowries/week: 33699 Average net: 31689 Lowest week: 33699 Highest week: 33699```Compared to (incorrect)
C2: 6036
C4: 5873 
(6569 13 Groove):
C5: 6050 (7726 30 Groove):
C6: 4928 (6708 45 Groove):
C7: 5701 (7728 45 Groove):
Season 51 Total: 34,767
So C7 got tanked
Compared to expected
That sounds like we didn't do the history correct.
stoic veldt
I suspected the supply on shark oil, because it definitely would have changed
narrow tangle
Definitely, but the bot can handle supply changes
stoic veldt
Yes, it's been fine before - though it did craft it on 3 days and I think these ones are evaluated in a different order, so I wasn't sure if something odd happened
But I'm stabbing in the dark there, I really should look at the numbers and see how much it would be out by
tall fox
5701 vs 4909 base value?
wonder why it was so optimistic
I'm assuming it's not the groove bonus that's off
narrow tangle
No, I think the supply on shark oil being wrong is correct. I just want to be clear that it's not like using a craft in two different days should have caused a supply issue
narrow tangle
Did I ever follow up on what the issue was? I typed 6 instead of 5 in one line of code
ocean bough
oops XD
narrow tangle
There's a medium-sized explanation as to why that behaved in this manner, but that is truly the reason this happened.
ocean bough
tall fox
Did I ever follow up on what the issue was? I typed 6 instead of 5 in one line o...
off by one, the scourge of code everywhere
fringe linden
off by one, the scourge of code everywhere
There are 2 hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-1 errors.
tall fox
I see what you did there 😄
autumn vault
ngl, it took me waaaaay too long in uni to get my head round the fact that arrays always start at position 0 instead of 1...
stoic veldt
Not in every language!
woeful beacon
didn't see anything under "resolved issues" or "known issues" regarding either of the cowrie bugs in the patch notes
unless i missed it
tall fox
you are correct, it's not
but like Silera said, side content patches often take them several versions to get around to
woeful beacon
zenith agate
Yea that’s a fair amount disappointing