#Season 19
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(Charts to follow later today probably, assuming FFXI doesn't get in the way
Just wanted to make the thread)
VHs
Highs
Avgs
Granary
Cheat Sheet
G:
(VH) >>
(H) >>> 
(A) >>>>
(L) (As was evidenced last week, even Low-pop items can still be used in weird circumstances!)
VH:

H:

A:

4h VH:

4h H:

Notes:
• Confections are likely, if they actually peak together.
• If
strong peaks alongside one of its other VH 4h links, practically a guarantee given how few good VH items we have.
• With slim pickings of granary, I wouldn't be surprised if
with Avg
happens again.
• I'm definitely expecting a lot of strong peaks. This list is very, very limited. The rules of curated lists is saying we're getting a lot of strong Highs/Avgs.
Recommendations for Season 19 (Dec 27 - Jan 2)
@ roles
^
• C5: 3528
(4128
18 Groove)
∟
Grilled Clam (4h) -
Islefish Pie (6h) -
Shark Oil (8h) -
Islefish Pie (6h)
▬▬▬▬▬
• C6: 3927
(4866
27 Groove)
∟
Baked Pumpkin (4h) -
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h) -
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h)
@ Crime Time do this instead:
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Baked Pumpkin (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h) -
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h)
^
▬▬▬▬▬
• C7: 3888
(4989
35 Groove)
∟
Earrings (4h) -
Silver Ear Cuffs (8h) -
Earrings (4h) -
Silver Ear Cuffs (8h)
💤 If you still have to rest this season, rest C5 💤
🗓️ Forgot to set your agenda? Go to #🚽︱bot-spam and use /today. Extended AFK? Try /this_week, or /next_week.
🔮 Past agendas and alternative recs are in #🤖︱bot-recs .
Be sure to check your Material Allocation button after setting your agendas! 🦜
@trim solstice
‼️ Forgot to set your agenda? Use
/today. Extended AFK? Try/this_week, or/next_week.
How's that look?
It looks good.
Unsure on the ‼️ though
Something for consideration: Will S21 be Season 21, or Series 2, Season 1? 
Hmmmmmm...
Rough numbers: Grilled Clam still worst, Parsnip middle, Pumpkin best.
Parsnip doesn't hit Insuf C2:
If Parsnip C3W or C6/7:
If Parsnip C3S
~+600 for Groove value
It's like, right at the threshold.
Without RB and nothing that can calc this, I'm kinda running on 8AM (having been up all night) Parrot-brained math and stuff.
So here's what I'm gonna do: I'm gonna leave the tentative recs up for the time being.
@trim solstice: If you can fix RB and you see a good rec for the 6-craft, then feel free to take the
recs template and roll with it. Delete mine and publish yours.
If it's still rest, then just leave mine up and I'll edit it when I wake up (probably LATE cuz it's 8am and I'm still awake...).
Honestly I'm feeling Rest but that's just me. As a bonus, it aligns the people doing normal recs and 10-craft stockpile.
BC (albeit outdated) says Brush/Crook which I wasn't a fan of either. 3396 is no Insuf brush and it goes up to 3537 if C3S Brush, which feels like a worse gamble than the 6-craft. (Keep in mind this is a 9-groove agenda, and therefore gets no bonus as 9-groove is the base)
I'M AWAKE
Hi hello
Lemme take a look at the 4hrs and see if there's anything fancy
Mkay, so! Since it's C1, and we don't have future info to look at, we instead need to look at the potential of using 5-craft agendas, to see if we'd be wasting any bonus groove.
The notable 5-craft agendas are
VH Baked Pumpkin - VH Parsnip Salad - VH Onion Soup (jesus christ calm down)
...And that's it! At most, if Horn hits S we could potentially see a 5-craft there with Butter and Earrings, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
That said, the Onion Soup combo would be pretty badly damaged if we did a 6-craft with Pumpkin and Parsnip this week, so I'm lowering the value from 600 to about 400 from bonus groove. It's actually likely less.
I get rest for today
So! With that said, I'm keen on going Rest for official rec.
Regarding the 10-craft science, are we posting that somewhere? Or are we waiting until tomorrow to solve it?
No vacation recs returned. @trim solstice
Good, helpful. Thanks!
I know we have the commands, but I more meant some kind of official announcement of the strategy, maybe in Mammets Monthly or some such.
I wouldn't
Again, this is dumb bullshit for weirdos. We don't know this will work. I don't think we should recommend it in any official capacity
I'd mention it in workshop discussion, probably pin it so we can refer to it if people ask
But I wouldn't post it in any announcement capacity, personally
Fair enough!
Baked Pumpkin - Parsnip Salad - Onion Soup - Parsnip Salad - Onion Soup
Tomato Relish - Butter - Scale Fingers - Spruce Round Shield
Squid Ink - Pie - Shark Oil - Pie
Tomato Relish - Butter - Scale Fingers - Spruce Round Shield
Boiled Egg - Horn - Shark Oil - Horn
Rope - Culinary Knife - Sheepfluff Rug - Culinary Knife - Sheepfluff Rug
Rope - Tunic - Ribbon - Silver Ear Cuffs
Rope - Garden Scythe - Silver Ear Cuffs - Garden Scythe
Baked Pumpkin - Parsnip Salad - Onion Soup - Parsnip Salad - Onion Soup
Brush - Spruce Round Shield - Brush - Spruce Round Shield
Rest
We'll get better recommendations for this week tomorrow morning
Though since we're resting today, we can even get recs the morning of C3
Truuuue... Next week is set in stone, though, so we can go ahead and plug that in.
I added in a fuckton more error handling and logging. I still don't know what's going wrong at 3am that doesn't go wrong when I look at it
I also added a /rerun command that just reruns and re-publishes the recs
So if it doesn't work at 3:10, you can try that?
Was it good sleep?
Not decent to farm keys til 7:30. It took us 12 hours for that farm last night. I'm such a masochist xD
PS: Mienna I just noticed you forgot @ Squawkbox
Not like it really mattered though since the post was the same
(unless that was intentional because I usually edit tentative to confirmed, in which case good job)
Yeah, I purposefully didn't because I didn't want to re-ping with no new information
Apparently the reason the today command had no results was because the value was so low it was showing up negative
Pffffff
Because the weighted value included the penalty from generating less 9 groove
And it just. Couldn't overcome that
Still doesn't explain what the problem is with why recs weren't showing up during normal times
😫
but fuck it, I've got alarms now
I want to make the joke
?
||Pls don't buttfuck the mammets||
oh no
Plz don't.
Robophiliac.
See I'm not the only one
I mean I'm not into robots
I don't believe you
I have a dev environment on a laptop so I can easily at least reboot the bot and give it a stern talking to.
Protogens are still all the rage
I would much rather do that every morning than make you stress out for 5 hours
(I'm still trying to find the issue with normal recs)
To be slightly fair, the parrot's gonna stress no matter what
Why is Rec Prep furry now
(It sadly seems unrelated to the issue with /today not working, which is so sad because I made that one make sense 😭)
I thought rec prep was always furry
I was just the token non-furry here for marketability
All I can imagine is like a furry math witch.
When is reset nowadays? I forget
Like literally broom and cauldron, cackling like a maniac witch, but instead of said broom and cauldron, she has computers and calculators all around her. Still has the hat though
1h
3a EST/4a EDT
Maintenance: 5a EST/6a EDT
Gross, I'll be back asleep by then
Why even stay?
Hm?
Oh nah I'm awake for other reasons
(also because I would have slept like 2h ago if I knew you'd all be on
)
You're suffering far too much for my liking lately 😭
I woke up at 6:30 today so rather than stay up all night again, I was gonna go to bed early
You're physically capable of going to bed early right now?
I mean, I weighed the suffering and getting my stupid Kazham keys in 11 was worth, plus I only had to wait like 30m for Imposters.
Yeah, but it's way too late.
I'm even gonna not stay up 2h past recs for my subs, unless recs takes a hot minute
Hopefully recs should be chill
given that if the bot is misbehaving I will be up to kick it
If I have access to the /kick command, do inform me :P
I made /rerun but idk if that will help or if it'll just fail the same way again
Alternatively, we just do Parsec every Tuesday morning.
I mean those are sort of unrelated issues
I thought Parsec was so someone else could log in and set up imposter testing so you could sleep
Of course, but it's usually Tuesday that's poopy
Oh, I mean that too.
I more meant "I set everything and you check it when you wake up"
Cuz like on days where I need ~8.5h to test, it's very hard to go to sleep knowing about the imposter checks in my mind
Oh, so you can go tf to sleep and I can check the results
Yuh
That would be sick
and I'd just leave the game on at the workshop
Thank you for realizing my idea as "sick".
I should go get a l'il nap in before recs. Partner is having a hard time sleeping with laptop glow
But I will be here
I stg if the bot works because I am awake
Just take a peek at #🤖︱bot-recs at 3:10 and if it's up then you can go back to sleep 
I started to say "give him a smooch for me" but quickly realized that is REALLY AWKWARD to say to most non-furries
It's not a furry thing, it's just a slut thing.
Not all furries would be okay with that
WOW
I mean most furries are sluts, it's okay
Every furry I hang out with is generally pretty open about kisses, it's anything beyond that where it gets creepy
"Hey go kiss your BF and tell him to stop being a hermit" goes around in my groups at least twice a day
It’s the “for me” part of the request that I think makes it a bit transgressive
The one you just said doesn’t sound weird at all. XP
I mean if you're friends with the BF and would accept a smooch from ya.
Like I'd tell my friends to smooch their BF (that I know) for me, cuz they'd probs be into it 
Like I said, we're all sluts.
I always forget that there's a million ways to read that sentence
Leiton trying to hide the "most furries are sluts" common knowledge.
Yeah, if everyone is on smooching terms then there’s no weirdness at all
The "for me" part was more meant to be like
"Go kiss your BF so I have the satisfaction in knowing that love has been spread today"
But it's 3am and wording things is hard
I actually have no idea how I’d word that sentiment
This is not at all how I see it but that's because I'm just a slut I guess 
My ex tells me to give the dog scritches for him all the time
And I tell her that the scritches are from him
Cute
Okay now see that is an exception
I will absolutely tell people to give smooches/scritches to pets from me
That feels like the normal use of “for me” to me
Ye, sorry for the confusion!
It’s so silly
To take a 30m nap
But I will
I would just play a couple days of Potionomics but again, laptop light.
I was so interested in that game until someone mentioned "dating sim" and it just ruined all interest.
I'd rather play Potion Craft: Alchemist Simulator
SF VH Strong, Butter High Weak, looks like an open and shut recs 
It’s not really a dating sim. You need to manage relationships as a part of your time management and you can flirt but like
You can also just not flirt
And just manage the friendship
(Ranking up friendship gets you new cards and discounts and stuff)

See that still sounds annoying, just like real life.
(being an introvert is pain and suffering in this Extroverts' World)
It doesn’t decay or anything; it’s just another time management task to manage
Idk. It isn’t a dating sim is all. XP
Byeeeeee
Of course it works because I’m watching
?
You edited your Alt Agendas post, or you deleted it I guess
I deleted it at some point
But yeah. Whatever. Bot behaved. Recs normal. Going to sleep.

Same
I'm also unofficially calling the first 20 seasons "Series 1"
We'll likely continue with Season 21 in Series 2, but yeah.
Oh also Parsnip C3S so in hindsight, resting was a touch less optimal.
But obs we couldn't have known that
Btw I know this is jumping the gun, but for Season 20, if we have a borderline 3.5k C2/3, I will be judging it a lot more harshly than I will 4-7 for the consideration of rest. A C2/3 rest means people doing normal recs will get 4 days of XP instead of 3 days with a 4-7 rest
Like C2 this week, even if pumpkin was strong, I'd probably still push rest if this was S20. I think the extra day of XP would be more valuable to most people than an extra few
.
This will happen every final season of a series.
So yeah, hoping for a bad C2 or C3. Hopefully no 5k+ days for both 
We’re finally moved into a house and the holidays are over. I’m back, baby.
Unsure on which 4h to use
Brush doesn't seem worth, kinda want to save for Shark
It's like, barely better
Shark is also peaking?
What is this rec.
wtf is wrong
with the bot
I feel like not posting would've been a better idea, recs bot
baby
Okay, it's....happier....now??
omg
I had an epiphany
I think I know what's wrong
This is totally it
It explains everything
omg
Recs look sane! Hallelujah!
am
am I alone
do I need to post recs
Recommendations for Season 19 (Dec 27 - Jan 2)
@ roles go here
• C5: 3528
(4128
18 Groove)
∟
Grilled Clam (4h) -
Islefish Pie (6h) -
Shark Oil (8h) -
Islefish Pie (6h)
• C6: 3927
(4866
27 Groove)
∟
Baked Pumpkin (4h) -
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h) -
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h)
• C7: 3888
(4989
35 Groove)
∟
Earrings (4h) -
Silver Ear Cuffs (8h) -
Earrings (4h) -
Silver Ear Cuffs (8h)
💤 If you still have a rest day remaining, rest C5 💤
🗓️ Forgot to set your agenda? Go to #🚽︱bot-spam and use /today. Extended AFK? Try /this_week, or /next_week.
🔮 Past agendas and alternative recs are in #🤖︱bot-recs .
Be sure to check your Material Allocation button after setting your agendas! 🦜
That looks right
right?
I'm gonna do it
Recs are done and I'm gonna walk the dog and go to bed
Oh hi fuck me
My alarm went off awhile ago kekw
Thanks for doing recs 
I'm gonna redo the recs cuz the format for rest is... bad.
I mean, just tell me what to change
Well we need to redo it anyway cuz of the lack of Crime Time ping too
Can you put your post in a code block?
oh yeah
this one
@Squawkbox
**• C5:** 3528 :OC_BlueShell: (4128 :OC_BlueShell: 18 Groove)
∟ :OC_GrilledClam: Grilled Clam (4h) - :OC_IslefishPie: Islefish Pie (6h) - :OC_SharkOil: Shark Oil (8h) - :OC_IslefishPie: Islefish Pie (6h)
**• C6:** 3927 :OC_BlueShell: (4866 :OC_BlueShell: 27 Groove)
∟ :OC_BakedPumpkin: Baked Pumpkin (4h) - :OC_ParsnipSalad: Parsnip Salad (4h) - :OC_OnionSoup: Onion Soup (6h) - :OC_ParsnipSalad: Parsnip Salad (4h) - :OC_OnionSoup: Onion Soup (6h)
**• C7:** 3888 :OC_BlueShell: (4989 :OC_BlueShell: 35 Groove)
∟ :OC_Earrings: Earrings (4h) - :OC_SilverEarCuffs: Silver Ear Cuffs (8h) - :OC_Earrings: Earrings (4h) - :OC_SilverEarCuffs: Silver Ear Cuffs (8h)
:zzz: If you still have to rest this season, rest C5 :zzz:
:calendar_spiral: Forgot to set your agenda? Go to #🚽︱bot-spam and use `/today`. Extended AFK? Try `/this_week`, or `/next_week`.
:crystal_ball: Past agendas and alternative recs are in #🔮︱bot-recs .
:Parrot: Be sure to check your Material Allocation button __after__ setting your agendas! :parrot:```
that works too ty
Okay so the uh
... wait
Wait we already rested, that's why I'm so confused why you put the line at the bottom

For people who didn't rest C2
Well yeah it's the lowest number.
I mean, I know that
Heck
Okay sorry
Bot behaved itself today!
Nah I was just doing my outline there
Recommendations for Season 19 (Dec 27 - Jan 2)
@ Roles
• C5: 3528
(4128
18 Groove)
∟
Grilled Clam (4h) -
Islefish Pie (6h) -
Shark Oil (8h) -
Islefish Pie (6h)
• C6: 3927
(4866
27 Groove)
∟
Baked Pumpkin (4h) -
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h) -
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h)
@ CrimeTime, do this instead: ∟
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Baked Pumpkin (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h) -
Parsnip Salad (4h) -
Onion Soup (6h)
• C7: 3888
(4989
35 Groove)
∟
Earrings (4h) -
Silver Ear Cuffs (8h) -
Earrings (4h) -
Silver Ear Cuffs (8h)
💤 If you still have to rest this season, rest C5 💤
🗓️ Forgot to set your agenda? Go to #🚽︱bot-spam and use /today. Extended AFK? Try /this_week, or /next_week.
🔮 Past agendas and alternative recs are in #🤖︱bot-recs .
Be sure to check your Material Allocation button after setting your agendas! 🦜
There we go
You did good, thank you, sorry for being a dumb bitch who got distracted by dumbutts
Legit I heard the alarm go off and I just FUCKING FORGOT
The only real change was the Crime Time for C6, but might as well put it in so I can ping Crime Time correctly, plus so I can edit it on C5/C6/C7
I didn't even notice they were different, lol
But you're right, they definitely are
Those OCD-af eyes
Yeah CT overloads on Parsnip
@trim solstice Is Boiled Egg not better?
than Clam
Oh wait
I'm dumb don't listen to me
FOR SOME REASON I thought Pie was Foodstuffs

It is, distressingly, a confection
aaaaaaaaand what's the total?
24,369 is what CG is saying but it's been wrong before
PS: BC was a perfect recs this week, and also says 24,369 so that's probably it
Yeah, I manually added it; it's 24,369