#Season 19

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lunar gust
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The final season of 2022. Hopefully it'll be a good one!

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(Charts to follow later today probably, assuming FFXI doesn't get in the way dogkek Just wanted to make the thread)

lunar gust
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Granary

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Cheat Sheet
G: OC_Spruce (VH) >> OC_Shark (H) >>> OC_AlyssumOC_Silver (A) >>>> OC_Garnet (L) (As was evidenced last week, even Low-pop items can still be used in weird circumstances!)
VH: OC_OnionSoup OC_IslefishPie OC_ScaleFingers
H: OC_SweetPopoto OC_Caramels OC_CavaliersHat OC_HornCraft OC_PickledRadish OC_VegetableJuice
A: OC_GardenScythe OC_Bed OC_Crook
4h VH: OC_BakedPumpkin OC_ParsnipSalad
4h H: OC_Earrings OC_Butter OC_TomatoRelish OC_CornFlakes

Notes:
• Confections are likely, if they actually peak together.
• If OC_OnionSoup strong peaks alongside one of its other VH 4h links, practically a guarantee given how few good VH items we have.
• With slim pickings of granary, I wouldn't be surprised if OC_VegetableJuice with Avg OC_GrowthFormula happens again.
• I'm definitely expecting a lot of strong peaks. This list is very, very limited. The rules of curated lists is saying we're getting a lot of strong Highs/Avgs.

lunar gust
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Recommendations for Season 19 (Dec 27 - Jan 2)
@ roles

starpiece^

• C5: 3528 OC_BlueShell (4128 OC_BlueShell 18 Groove)
OC_GrilledClam Grilled Clam (4h) - OC_IslefishPie Islefish Pie (6h) - OC_SharkOil Shark Oil (8h) - OC_IslefishPie Islefish Pie (6h)

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• C6: 3927 OC_BlueShell (4866 OC_BlueShell 27 Groove)
OC_BakedPumpkin Baked Pumpkin (4h) - OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h) - OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h)
@ Crime Time do this instead: OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_BakedPumpkin Baked Pumpkin (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h) - OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h)

starpiece ^

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• C7: 3888 OC_BlueShell (4989 OC_BlueShell 35 Groove)
OC_Earrings Earrings (4h) - OC_SilverEarCuffs Silver Ear Cuffs (8h) - OC_Earrings Earrings (4h) - OC_SilverEarCuffs Silver Ear Cuffs (8h)

💤 If you still have to rest this season, rest C5 💤

🗓️ Forgot to set your agenda? Go to #🚽︱bot-spam and use /today. Extended AFK? Try /this_week, or /next_week.
🔮 Past agendas and alternative recs are in #🤖︱bot-recs .
Parrot Be sure to check your Material Allocation button after setting your agendas! 🦜

lunar gust
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@trim solstice

‼️ Forgot to set your agenda? Use /today. Extended AFK? Try /this_week, or /next_week.
How's that look?

trim solstice
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It looks good.

lunar gust
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Unsure on the ‼️ though

lunar gust
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Something for consideration: Will S21 be Season 21, or Series 2, Season 1? dogkek

lunar gust
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Hmmmmmm...

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Rough numbers: Grilled Clam still worst, Parsnip middle, Pumpkin best.
Parsnip doesn't hit Insuf C2:

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If Parsnip C3W or C6/7:

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If Parsnip C3S

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~+600 for Groove value

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It's like, right at the threshold.

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Without RB and nothing that can calc this, I'm kinda running on 8AM (having been up all night) Parrot-brained math and stuff.

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So here's what I'm gonna do: I'm gonna leave the tentative recs up for the time being.
@trim solstice: If you can fix RB and you see a good rec for the 6-craft, then feel free to take the pin recs template and roll with it. Delete mine and publish yours.
If it's still rest, then just leave mine up and I'll edit it when I wake up (probably LATE cuz it's 8am and I'm still awake...).

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Honestly I'm feeling Rest but that's just me. As a bonus, it aligns the people doing normal recs and 10-craft stockpile.

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BC (albeit outdated) says Brush/Crook which I wasn't a fan of either. 3396 is no Insuf brush and it goes up to 3537 if C3S Brush, which feels like a worse gamble than the 6-craft. (Keep in mind this is a 9-groove agenda, and therefore gets no bonus as 9-groove is the base)

pliant pebble
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I'M AWAKE

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Hi hello

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Lemme take a look at the 4hrs and see if there's anything fancy

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Mkay, so! Since it's C1, and we don't have future info to look at, we instead need to look at the potential of using 5-craft agendas, to see if we'd be wasting any bonus groove.

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The notable 5-craft agendas are

VH Baked Pumpkin - VH Parsnip Salad - VH Onion Soup (jesus christ calm down)

...And that's it! At most, if Horn hits S we could potentially see a 5-craft there with Butter and Earrings, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

That said, the Onion Soup combo would be pretty badly damaged if we did a 6-craft with Pumpkin and Parsnip this week, so I'm lowering the value from 600 to about 400 from bonus groove. It's actually likely less.

trim solstice
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I get rest for today

pliant pebble
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So! With that said, I'm keen on going Rest for official rec.

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Regarding the 10-craft science, are we posting that somewhere? Or are we waiting until tomorrow to solve it?

stray sandalBOT
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No vacation recs returned. @trim solstice

trim solstice
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Good, helpful. Thanks!

pliant pebble
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I know we have the commands, but I more meant some kind of official announcement of the strategy, maybe in Mammets Monthly or some such.

trim solstice
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I wouldn't

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Again, this is dumb bullshit for weirdos. We don't know this will work. I don't think we should recommend it in any official capacity

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I'd mention it in workshop discussion, probably pin it so we can refer to it if people ask

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But I wouldn't post it in any announcement capacity, personally

pliant pebble
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Fair enough!

stray sandalBOT
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Season 19 (Dec 27 - Jan 2) Vacation Recommendations
Cycle 3

Baked Pumpkin - Parsnip Salad - Onion Soup - Parsnip Salad - Onion Soup

Cycle 4

Tomato Relish - Butter - Scale Fingers - Spruce Round Shield

Cycle 5

Squid Ink - Pie - Shark Oil - Pie

Cycle 6

Tomato Relish - Butter - Scale Fingers - Spruce Round Shield

Cycle 7

Boiled Egg - Horn - Shark Oil - Horn

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Season 20 (Jan 3 - 9) Vacation Recommendations
Cycle 2

Rope - Culinary Knife - Sheepfluff Rug - Culinary Knife - Sheepfluff Rug

Cycle 3

Rope - Tunic - Ribbon - Silver Ear Cuffs

Cycle 4

Rope - Garden Scythe - Silver Ear Cuffs - Garden Scythe

Cycle 5

Baked Pumpkin - Parsnip Salad - Onion Soup - Parsnip Salad - Onion Soup

Cycle 6

Brush - Spruce Round Shield - Brush - Spruce Round Shield

Cycle 7

Rest

trim solstice
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We'll get better recommendations for this week tomorrow morning

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Though since we're resting today, we can even get recs the morning of C3

pliant pebble
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Truuuue... Next week is set in stone, though, so we can go ahead and plug that in.

trim solstice
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Unless we get a better algorithm in the meantime

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(I don't think we will)

trim solstice
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I added in a fuckton more error handling and logging. I still don't know what's going wrong at 3am that doesn't go wrong when I look at it

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I also added a /rerun command that just reruns and re-publishes the recs

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So if it doesn't work at 3:10, you can try that?

lunar gust
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Sorry I uh, didn't expect to sleep literally all day

trim solstice
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Was it good sleep?

lunar gust
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Slept from like ~8:30-6:15

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So uh yeah pre decent

trim solstice
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That’s good!

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It’s good to sleep!

lunar gust
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Not decent to farm keys til 7:30. It took us 12 hours for that farm last night. I'm such a masochist xD

lunar gust
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PS: Mienna I just noticed you forgot @ Squawkbox dogkek Not like it really mattered though since the post was the same

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(unless that was intentional because I usually edit tentative to confirmed, in which case good job)

trim solstice
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Yeah, I purposefully didn't because I didn't want to re-ping with no new information

lunar gust
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Wow, sexy earnings report

trim solstice
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Apparently the reason the today command had no results was because the value was so low it was showing up negative

lunar gust
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Pffffff

trim solstice
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Because the weighted value included the penalty from generating less 9 groove

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And it just. Couldn't overcome that

pliant pebble
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Pfffft

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Amazing

trim solstice
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Still doesn't explain what the problem is with why recs weren't showing up during normal times

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😫

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but fuck it, I've got alarms now

pliant pebble
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I want to make the joke

trim solstice
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?

pliant pebble
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||Pls don't buttfuck the mammets||

trim solstice
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oh no

lunar gust
lunar gust
pliant pebble
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See I'm not the only one

lunar gust
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I mean I'm not into robots

pliant pebble
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I don't believe you

trim solstice
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I have a dev environment on a laptop so I can easily at least reboot the bot and give it a stern talking to.

pliant pebble
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Protogens are still all the rage

trim solstice
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I would much rather do that every morning than make you stress out for 5 hours

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(I'm still trying to find the issue with normal recs)

pliant pebble
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To be slightly fair, the parrot's gonna stress no matter what

lunar gust
trim solstice
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(It sadly seems unrelated to the issue with /today not working, which is so sad because I made that one make sense 😭)

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I thought rec prep was always furry

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I was just the token non-furry here for marketability

pliant pebble
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You're not wrong

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Wait no

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You made a sona

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It counts

trim solstice
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Raz made one for me

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It doesn't really speak to me, sadly

pliant pebble
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Oh damn I thought you made it

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Soon.......

lunar gust
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All I can imagine is like a furry math witch.

pliant pebble
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When is reset nowadays? I forget

lunar gust
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Like literally broom and cauldron, cackling like a maniac witch, but instead of said broom and cauldron, she has computers and calculators all around her. Still has the hat though

lunar gust
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3a EST/4a EDT
Maintenance: 5a EST/6a EDT

pliant pebble
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Gross, I'll be back asleep by then

lunar gust
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Why even stay?

pliant pebble
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Hm?

lunar gust
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As in "go sleep, we got this"

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I suffer so the rest of you don't have to gt

pliant pebble
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Oh nah I'm awake for other reasons

lunar gust
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(also because I would have slept like 2h ago if I knew you'd all be on dogkek)

trim solstice
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You're suffering far too much for my liking lately 😭

lunar gust
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I woke up at 6:30 today so rather than stay up all night again, I was gonna go to bed early

trim solstice
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You're physically capable of going to bed early right now?

lunar gust
lunar gust
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I'm even gonna not stay up 2h past recs for my subs, unless recs takes a hot minute

trim solstice
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Hopefully recs should be chill

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given that if the bot is misbehaving I will be up to kick it

lunar gust
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If I have access to the /kick command, do inform me :P

trim solstice
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I made /rerun but idk if that will help or if it'll just fail the same way again

lunar gust
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Alternatively, we just do Parsec every Tuesday morning.

trim solstice
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I mean those are sort of unrelated issues

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I thought Parsec was so someone else could log in and set up imposter testing so you could sleep

lunar gust
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Of course, but it's usually Tuesday that's poopy

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Oh, I mean that too.

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I more meant "I set everything and you check it when you wake up"

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Cuz like on days where I need ~8.5h to test, it's very hard to go to sleep knowing about the imposter checks in my mind

trim solstice
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Oh, so you can go tf to sleep and I can check the results

lunar gust
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Yuh

trim solstice
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That would be sick

lunar gust
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and I'd just leave the game on at the workshop

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Thank you for realizing my idea as "sick".

trim solstice
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I should go get a l'il nap in before recs. Partner is having a hard time sleeping with laptop glow

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But I will be here

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I stg if the bot works because I am awake

lunar gust
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Just take a peek at #🤖︱bot-recs at 3:10 and if it's up then you can go back to sleep gt

pliant pebble
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I started to say "give him a smooch for me" but quickly realized that is REALLY AWKWARD to say to most non-furries

lunar gust
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It's not a furry thing, it's just a slut thing.

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Not all furries would be okay with that

pliant pebble
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WOW

lunar gust
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I mean most furries are sluts, it's okay

pliant pebble
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Every furry I hang out with is generally pretty open about kisses, it's anything beyond that where it gets creepy

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"Hey go kiss your BF and tell him to stop being a hermit" goes around in my groups at least twice a day

trim solstice
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It’s the “for me” part of the request that I think makes it a bit transgressive

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The one you just said doesn’t sound weird at all. XP

lunar gust
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I mean if you're friends with the BF and would accept a smooch from ya.

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Like I'd tell my friends to smooch their BF (that I know) for me, cuz they'd probs be into it dogkek

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Like I said, we're all sluts.

pliant pebble
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I always forget that there's a million ways to read that sentence

lunar gust
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Leiton trying to hide the "most furries are sluts" common knowledge.

trim solstice
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Yeah, if everyone is on smooching terms then there’s no weirdness at all

pliant pebble
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The "for me" part was more meant to be like
"Go kiss your BF so I have the satisfaction in knowing that love has been spread today"

trim solstice
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Ahhh

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Okay. I get you

pliant pebble
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But it's 3am and wording things is hard

trim solstice
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I actually have no idea how I’d word that sentiment

lunar gust
pliant pebble
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I don't do messenger smooches

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I'm too extroverted

trim solstice
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My ex tells me to give the dog scritches for him all the time

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And I tell her that the scritches are from him

lunar gust
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Cute

pliant pebble
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Okay now see that is an exception

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I will absolutely tell people to give smooches/scritches to pets from me

trim solstice
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That feels like the normal use of “for me” to me

pliant pebble
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Ye, sorry for the confusion!

trim solstice
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Well

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I gave both my dog and my partner a smooch on the forehead

pliant pebble
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Yooooooo

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The workshop witch brewed up a love potion

trim solstice
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It’s so silly

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To take a 30m nap

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But I will

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I would just play a couple days of Potionomics but again, laptop light.

lunar gust
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I'd rather play Potion Craft: Alchemist Simulator

lunar gust
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SF VH Strong, Butter High Weak, looks like an open and shut recs dogkek

trim solstice
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It’s not really a dating sim. You need to manage relationships as a part of your time management and you can flirt but like

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You can also just not flirt

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And just manage the friendship

lunar gust
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Why are you up

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it's not 3:10

trim solstice
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(Ranking up friendship gets you new cards and discounts and stuff)

lunar gust
lunar gust
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(being an introvert is pain and suffering in this Extroverts' World)

trim solstice
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It doesn’t decay or anything; it’s just another time management task to manage

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Idk. It isn’t a dating sim is all. XP

lunar gust
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Are you ready for world's fastest recs tho?

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It was done in literally 2m

trim solstice
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Sweet

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Recs bot, just post so I can go back to bed. 😴

lunar gust
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Byeeeeee

trim solstice
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Of course it works because I’m watching

lunar gust
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Wait you edited your old post?

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Heck

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Whelp, there goes your old post

trim solstice
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?

lunar gust
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You edited your Alt Agendas post, or you deleted it I guess

trim solstice
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I deleted it at some point

lunar gust
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oh, yesterday then

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Cuz it was there when I posted 24h ago

trim solstice
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But yeah. Whatever. Bot behaved. Recs normal. Going to sleep.

lunar gust
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leftArrowSamerightArrow

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I'm also unofficially calling the first 20 seasons "Series 1"

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We'll likely continue with Season 21 in Series 2, but yeah.

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Oh also Parsnip C3S so in hindsight, resting was a touch less optimal.

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But obs we couldn't have known that

lunar gust
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Btw I know this is jumping the gun, but for Season 20, if we have a borderline 3.5k C2/3, I will be judging it a lot more harshly than I will 4-7 for the consideration of rest. A C2/3 rest means people doing normal recs will get 4 days of XP instead of 3 days with a 4-7 rest

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Like C2 this week, even if pumpkin was strong, I'd probably still push rest if this was S20. I think the extra day of XP would be more valuable to most people than an extra few OC_BlueShell.
This will happen every final season of a series.

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So yeah, hoping for a bad C2 or C3. Hopefully no 5k+ days for both dogkek

trim solstice
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We’re finally moved into a house and the holidays are over. I’m back, baby.

lunar gust
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Unsure on which 4h to use

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Brush doesn't seem worth, kinda want to save for Shark

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It's like, barely better

trim solstice
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Shark is also peaking?

lunar gust
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Yeah but uh

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Mienna

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what the fuck is that

trim solstice
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What is this rec.

lunar gust
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Yeah

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We're doing brush spruce

trim solstice
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wtf is wrong

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with the bot

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I feel like not posting would've been a better idea, recs bot

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baby

trim solstice
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Okay, it's....happier....now??

trim solstice
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omg

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I had an epiphany

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I think I know what's wrong

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This is totally it

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It explains everything

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omg

trim solstice
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wait, not everything

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fuck

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I'm going back to bed

trim solstice
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Recs look sane! Hallelujah!

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am

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am I alone

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do I need to post recs

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Recommendations for Season 19 (Dec 27 - Jan 2)
@ roles go here

• C5: 3528 OC_BlueShell (4128 OC_BlueShell 18 Groove)
OC_GrilledClam Grilled Clam (4h) - OC_IslefishPie Islefish Pie (6h) - OC_SharkOil Shark Oil (8h) - OC_IslefishPie Islefish Pie (6h)
• C6: 3927 OC_BlueShell (4866 OC_BlueShell 27 Groove)
OC_BakedPumpkin Baked Pumpkin (4h) - OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h) - OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h)
• C7: 3888 OC_BlueShell (4989 OC_BlueShell 35 Groove)
OC_Earrings Earrings (4h) - OC_SilverEarCuffs Silver Ear Cuffs (8h) - OC_Earrings Earrings (4h) - OC_SilverEarCuffs Silver Ear Cuffs (8h)

💤 If you still have a rest day remaining, rest C5 💤

🗓️ Forgot to set your agenda? Go to #🚽︱bot-spam and use /today. Extended AFK? Try /this_week, or /next_week.
🔮 Past agendas and alternative recs are in #🤖︱bot-recs .
Parrot Be sure to check your Material Allocation button after setting your agendas! 🦜

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That looks right

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right?

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I'm gonna do it

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Recs are done and I'm gonna walk the dog and go to bed

lunar gust
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Oh hi fuck me

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My alarm went off awhile ago kekw

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Thanks for doing recs dogkek

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I'm gonna redo the recs cuz the format for rest is... bad.

trim solstice
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I mean, just tell me what to change

lunar gust
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Well we need to redo it anyway cuz of the lack of Crime Time ping too

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Can you put your post in a code block?

trim solstice
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oh yeah

trim solstice
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@Squawkbox 

**• C5:** 3528 :OC_BlueShell: (4128 :OC_BlueShell: 18 Groove)
∟ :OC_GrilledClam: Grilled Clam (4h) - :OC_IslefishPie: Islefish Pie (6h) - :OC_SharkOil: Shark Oil (8h) - :OC_IslefishPie: Islefish Pie (6h)  
**• C6:** 3927 :OC_BlueShell: (4866 :OC_BlueShell: 27 Groove)
∟ :OC_BakedPumpkin: Baked Pumpkin (4h) - :OC_ParsnipSalad:   Parsnip Salad (4h) - :OC_OnionSoup: Onion Soup (6h) - :OC_ParsnipSalad: Parsnip Salad (4h)  - :OC_OnionSoup: Onion Soup (6h)
**• C7:** 3888 :OC_BlueShell: (4989 :OC_BlueShell: 35 Groove)
∟ :OC_Earrings: Earrings (4h) - :OC_SilverEarCuffs: Silver Ear Cuffs (8h) - :OC_Earrings: Earrings (4h) - :OC_SilverEarCuffs: Silver Ear Cuffs (8h)

:zzz: If you still have to rest this season, rest C5 :zzz:

:calendar_spiral:  Forgot to set your agenda? Go to #🚽︱bot-spam and use `/today`. Extended AFK? Try `/this_week`, or `/next_week`.
:crystal_ball:  Past agendas and alternative recs are in #🔮︱bot-recs .
:Parrot:  Be sure to check your Material Allocation button __after__ setting your agendas!  :parrot:```
lunar gust
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that works too ty

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Okay so the uh

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... wait

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Wait we already rested, that's why I'm so confused why you put the line at the bottom

trim solstice
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For people who didn't rest C2

lunar gust
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Well yeah it's the lowest number.

trim solstice
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I mean, I know that

lunar gust
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Heck

trim solstice
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?

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I just see you typing in bot recs and I'm terrified

lunar gust
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Okay sorry

trim solstice
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Bot behaved itself today!

lunar gust
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Nah I was just doing my outline there

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Recommendations for Season 19 (Dec 27 - Jan 2)
@ Roles

• C5: 3528 OC_BlueShell (4128 OC_BlueShell 18 Groove)
OC_GrilledClam Grilled Clam (4h) - OC_IslefishPie Islefish Pie (6h) - OC_SharkOil Shark Oil (8h) - OC_IslefishPie Islefish Pie (6h)
• C6: 3927 OC_BlueShell (4866 OC_BlueShell 27 Groove)
OC_BakedPumpkin Baked Pumpkin (4h) - OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h) - OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h)
@ CrimeTime, do this instead: ∟ OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_BakedPumpkin Baked Pumpkin (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h) - OC_ParsnipSalad Parsnip Salad (4h) - OC_OnionSoup Onion Soup (6h)
• C7: 3888 OC_BlueShell (4989 OC_BlueShell 35 Groove)
OC_Earrings Earrings (4h) - OC_SilverEarCuffs Silver Ear Cuffs (8h) - OC_Earrings Earrings (4h) - OC_SilverEarCuffs Silver Ear Cuffs (8h)

💤 If you still have to rest this season, rest C5 💤

🗓️ Forgot to set your agenda? Go to #🚽︱bot-spam and use /today. Extended AFK? Try /this_week, or /next_week.
🔮 Past agendas and alternative recs are in #🤖︱bot-recs .
Parrot Be sure to check your Material Allocation button after setting your agendas! 🦜

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There we go

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You did good, thank you, sorry for being a dumb bitch who got distracted by dumbutts

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Legit I heard the alarm go off and I just FUCKING FORGOT

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The only real change was the Crime Time for C6, but might as well put it in so I can ping Crime Time correctly, plus so I can edit it on C5/C6/C7

trim solstice
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I didn't even notice they were different, lol

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But you're right, they definitely are

lunar gust
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Those OCD-af eyes

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Yeah CT overloads on Parsnip

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@trim solstice Is Boiled Egg not better?

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than Clam

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Oh wait

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I'm dumb don't listen to me

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FOR SOME REASON I thought Pie was Foodstuffs

trim solstice
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It is, distressingly, a confection

lunar gust
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aaaaaaaaand what's the total?

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24,369 is what CG is saying but it's been wrong before

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PS: BC was a perfect recs this week, and also says 24,369 so that's probably it

trim solstice
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Yeah, I manually added it; it's 24,369